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EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.[CALL TO ORDER]
YOU CAN JOIN THE MEETING IN PERSON AT 55 55 PERIMETER DRIVE AND ALSO ACCESS THE MEETING VIA THE LIVE STREAM AT THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S WEBSITE.PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, MY PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED AMERICAN AND TWO REPUBLIC OF WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE
THANK YOU, MS. MAXWELL, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES.
MS. NEWELL'S? ABSENT THIS EVENING.
[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]
OKAY.AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
SO I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE FOLLOWING MINUTES FROM THE FOLLOWING MEETINGS.
JUNE 11TH, REGULAR PNZ MEETING JUNE 15TH, JOINT WORK SESSION.
ARE THE MICROPHONES EXTRA SENSITIVE TONIGHT?
THEY ASSURE ME IT'S ONLY ONE NOTCH.
WE'LL MAKE DO, SORRY IF I'M SHOUTING EVERYONE.
UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL WHEN REZONING AND PLATTING A PROPERTY ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION.
IN SUCH CASES, CITY COUNCIL RECEIVES RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
IN OTHER CASES, THE COMMISSION HAS THE FINAL DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITY.
OUR PROCEDURES TONIGHT WILL BE THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR CASE FIRST, FOLLOWED BY STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION.
THE COMMISSION WILL THEN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AND STAFF, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE DELIBERATING ON EACH CASE.
A ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE INVITED TO COME FORWARD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
PLEASE ENSURE THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD TO ALLOW ALL A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
WE REQUEST THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND REFRAIN FROM REPEATING INFORMATION.
THE COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED ON THIS CASE AND REVIEWED THEM.
FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM SIDE CONVERSATIONS, APPLAUSE, OR OTHER AUDIBLE REACTION TO PUBLIC COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS OF COMMISSIONER'S, STAFF, OR APPLICANTS.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT COMMISSIONERS CAN HEAR WHAT IS BEING SAID ON THE RECORD AND THAT ALL HAVE A FAIR OPPORTUNITY.
THIS PROTECTS THE PROCESS FOR, UH, WHICH IT IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL CONCERNED.
SO ANYONE INTENDING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION OR PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ADMINISTRATIVE CASE MUST BE SWORN IN.
SO IF YOU PLAN TO DO SO, PLEASE STAND NOW.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND ANSWER IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO THIS STATEMENT.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH IN YOUR TESTIMONY TO THIS COMMISSION? THANK YOU.
[Case #26-020FDP]
OKAY.OUR FIRST CASE IS NUMBER 26 DASH 0 2 0 FDP.
AND MR. ALEXANDER, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO RECUSE HIMSELF FOR THE RECORD.
MS. MAXWELL, UM, THIS IS, UH, BRIDGE NORTH DEVELOPMENT, UH, REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW A MIXED NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS SEVEN PLUS OR AC ACRE SITE IS ZONED B-S-D-S-R-N BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, CIDER RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IS LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY.
SO AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP TO THE DIOCESE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
UH, THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH, UH, FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING AND FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS, UH, THIS COMMISSION.
I AM, UH, I'VE GOT THE HONOR TONIGHT TO REPRESENT, UH, THE DAIMLER GROUP, OUR, UH, PARTNERSHIP, AS WELL AS OUR, UH, OUR GROUP OF TOWN CONSULTANTS IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING AND PRESENT THIS REALLY, REALLY FUN AND EXCITING PROJECT.
UM, DAIMLER HAS A VERY LONG AND INVOLVED HISTORY WITH DUBLIN, UM, STRETCHING BACK OVER 43 YEARS.
WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN A, A PARTNER TO THE CITY AND MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, UM, EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE OUR, OUR PRESIDENT MOST RECENTLY WAS PART OF THE ENVISION
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DUBLIN, UM, COMMITTEE, ONE OF ONLY TWO DEVELOPERS, PAUL GATI.SO, WITH THAT, I WANNA SAY THAT WE DON'T TAKE ANY OF IT FOR GRANTED, AND WE DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED BECAUSE WORKING IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS IS A TRUE HONOR, AND WE KNOW THAT EVERY, EVERY PROJECT IN ITSELF HAS TO STAND ON ITS OWN TWO FEET.
THIS PROJECT IS AN ABSOLUTE EXCITING ONE FOR US AND, AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN IT.
UM, THIS IS ONE THAT I BELIEVE IS GONNA REALLY CONTINUE TO BE THE, THE TRUE END CAP TO THAT OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.
AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE AND INVOLVED.
UM, AS WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT IN THE, UH, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, UM, WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU, YOU LOOK AT A PROJECT LIKE THIS AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A BRIDGE PARK.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THAT OF WHAT IS THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT? WELL, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING THE CHALLENGE WHICH YOU DO IS YOU, YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU SAY, HOW CAN WE DO SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ADDITIVE YET ALSO BRING UNIQUENESS TO, TO THE PROPERTY? HOW CAN YOU DO THE SAME BUT AT THE SAME TIME DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT? AND WE REALLY TOOK THAT, THAT, UH, CHALLENGE TO HEART IN WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.
SO, UM, I DO KNOW STAFF'S GONNA BE GIVING A REPORT, AND SOME OF THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT REITERATIVE, SO I'M JUST GONNA HIT THE HIGH POINTS OF MAYBE WHERE WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, OUR CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
YOU START TO SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.
AND WE, WE BELIEVED IN THIS FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, THERE IS A CENTRAL PARK THAT WE REALLY BELIEVE YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY A FEW TIMES TONIGHT IS THE HEARTBEAT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL VISION OF THIS PROPERTY AS WE WENT THROUGH CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND STARTED TO REALLY DEVELOP THAT OF THE DENSITY, THE ALLOWABILITY, WHAT THE CITY WOULD ACCEPT, WHAT WE WERE, UM, READY TO BRING TO THE TABLE.
OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, REALLY WENT FURTHER AND, AND DEFINED THAT AS IT WAS ACCEPTED BY COUNCIL.
UM, ON THE SCREEN THERE, YOU'LL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE ALL THE, ALL THE PIECES AND PARTS THAT ARE, ARE REQUIRED TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND AS WE GOT INTO PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT YOU GUYS HEARD IN NOVEMBER AND, AND APPROVED, WHICH WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR, WHICH AGAIN LED US HERE TODAY, UM, WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE, THE IMPORTANT THINGS AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO BRING 'EM FORWARD.
WE STARTED TO DEFINE THE ARCHITECTURE.
WE STARTED TO DEFINE WHAT THAT OPEN SPACE WAS.
WE, WE KNEW MORE ABOUT OUR CHALLENGES AND THE, THE, THE HARDSHIPS OF THIS SITE WITH THE MASSIVE SLOPE, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING, UH, TO, WITH THE BRIDGE, BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND WITH THAT, IT BROUGHT OPPORTUNITY.
SO I, I DO BELIEVE, AND MY, MY PAST IN ARCHITECTURE IS, IS EVERY CHALLENGE DOES BRING OPPORTUNITIES TO THE SITE FOR UNIQUENESS.
AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT HEARTBEAT IN THE CENTER, THAT CENTRAL PARK.
IT GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DEVELOP A, A TERRORIST GREEN SPACE, A GREEN SPACE UNLIKE ANY THAT IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WITHIN ANY PARTICULAR BLOCK OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, HOW DO WE ENGAGE THE, THE PEOPLE, THE PEDESTRIANS WITH THAT, WITH THE WOOL NORF, WITH THE, THE TOP SHELF, WITH THE SEATING AREAS? UM, MORE SO HOW DO WE BRING PEOPLE ACROSS JOHN SHIELDS? OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S GOT SOME DECENT TRAFFIC TO IT.
HOW DO WE MAKE THAT MORE SAFE? WE WORKED ARM IN ARM WITH STAFF AND WITH, WITH, UH, THE ENGINEERS ON THAT SAFETY MEASURES AND HOW TO, HOW TO CAP THE END OF IT OFF AS WE GET TO TALLER.
UM, I MENTIONED THE, THE HEARTBEAT.
UM, WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT, EXTREMELY PROUD.
THIS IS SOME OF THE UNIQUENESS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, OF THE PARK SPACES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED THROUGHOUT HERE.
UM, THE CENTRAL PARK ITSELF, THE BRIDGE CASCADING OVER, UM, THE AMOUNT OF, OF EVENTS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HOLD AND PROGRAMMING THAT WE PLAN TO DO THERE, I THINK IS GONNA BE EXTREMELY DRAMATIC.
WE GET TO THE POINT OF JUST HOW, HOW VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT IS AT, AT EVERY CORNER.
WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP A LITTLE BIT MORE GREEN.
WE'VE GOT A, A COLLISION OF, OF PLAZA AND GREEN THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON QUITE A BIT AND WORKED REALLY HARD WITH STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE WE GOT RIGHT.
AND I THINK AS WE TALK MORE INTO THIS PRESENTATION BRIEFLY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA REALLY HIT ON THE POINTS OF WHAT WE TOOK, WHAT WAS PRETTY GOOD TO BEGIN WITH AND MADE IT BETTER.
UM, BASSAM RATTI, JENNY, THEY ARE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO, TO THE CITY, AND THEY WORKED VERY, VERY WELL WITH US, INCLUDING THE ENTIRETY OF THE ENGINEERING TEAM.
SO LET'S DREAM FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO KIND OF LOOK AT THESE IMAGES ON YOUR SCREEN AND, AND WE'VE, WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND WE'VE PUT THE PEOPLE IN, WE'VE GOT THE EXPERIENCES AND, AND WHEN I SIT BACK AND SAY, HAVE WE DONE THIS RIGHT? UM, IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY YES, UH, BUT THE WAY THAT I KIND OF GAUGE THAT IS TO LOOK BACK AT WHAT THE VISION AND GOALS OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT REALLY WERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MIXED USE VIBRANCY OF COMMERCIAL AND, AND RESIDENTIAL SPACES.
OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE HERE ARE GONNA LIVE IN A QUALITY, HIGH-END LUXURY ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS MULTIPLE AREAS OF INTERACTION FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IF YOU, IF YOU LIVE IN ONE BUILDING, YOU GET TO EXPERIENCE THE AMENITIES IN ALL THREE BUILDINGS.
NOTHING IS INDIVIDUALIZED EXCEPT FOR THEIR UNIT ITSELF.
THEY'RE ABLE TO WALK RIGHT DOWNSTAIRS, EXPERIENCE THE PARK FROM BELOW AND ABOVE, HAVE A ROOFTOP DECK, UM, BE UP IN THE SKY
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DECK, YOU KNOW, GET OFF THE GARAGE AND JUST GO WALK ACROSS THE BRIDGE.THE PUBLIC GATHERING AND COMMUNITY INTERACTION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO IMAGES HERE THAT REALLY, REALLY FOCUS THEMSELVES AROUND THAT CENTRAL PARK.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ACOUSTIC MUSIC NIGHTS ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS, IT'S, IT'S, UH, ENVISION FAMILY MOVIE NIGHT ON, UM, ON FRIDAYS.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THE INTERACTION AND THE PLAY OF THE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SPACES ON THAT PUBLIC SPACE.
AND THE ACTIVITY THAT THAT BRINGS TO THIS, THIS BLOCK, THE HUMAN SCALE AND ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN STREETS.
THAT, THAT THE, UH, THE VISION AND GOALS OF THE DISTRICT CALL FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY TOOK A HARD FOCUS ON THAT FIRST 16 TO 20 FEET.
WE ALL KNOW THAT'S THE PEDESTRIAN SCALE.
THE BASE, THE BODY, THE STOREFRONTS, HOW THEY'RE GONNA ACTIVATE THE SPACE.
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PUSH OUR FUTURE TENANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DOING THE SAME THING WITH THAT.
AND THEN FINALLY, WORKFORCE RECRUITMENT.
AND, UM, I'LL TELL YOU, WE'VE, WE'VE EVEN GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED AS THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST WE'VE HAD IN THIS BUILDING TO THE POINT WHERE THOUGH WE CAN'T REALLY FINALIZED THIS DEAL QUITE YET.
UM, I AM HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY RIGHT NOW IN LEASE NEGOTIATION WITH A FULL OFFICE USER FOR THIS.
SO IMMEDIATELY RIGHT OUT OF THE GATES, WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THIS ENTIRE 75,000 SQUARE FEET FULL WITH A HEADQUARTERS THAT IS NEW TO THAT OF OHIO.
THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE'VE LEARNED, LISTEN AND GOTTEN BETTER.
SO THESE NEXT FEW SIDES ARE REALLY GONNA POINT OUT THE, THE PIECES THAT I DON'T WANNA BE TOO REDUNDANT WITH, BUT I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO STOP AND TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.
THE OFFICE BUILDING, THE, THE FOCUS ON THE CORNER WAS AN EXTREME FOCUS.
YOU KNOW, THAT IS DEFINITELY A VERY PROMINENT CORNER AT JOHN SHIELDS AND RIVERSIDE.
UM, AND AS THIS OFFICE USER CAME ON BOARD, WE WERE ABLE TO REALLY WORK WITH STAFF AND SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER 4,000 SQUARE FEET IN THIS BUILDING.
AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY MONETARY SENSE TO GO VERTICALLY.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE ENHANCE THAT CORNER IMAGE? HOW DO WE REALLY CREATE THAT GLASS BLOCK THAT ALLOWS FOR SOME MORE INTERNAL SPACE? UM, HOW DO WE PLAY A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE SHADOW LINES, WITH THE, THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS RAISING THOSE PARAPET HEIGHTS? YOU GO AROUND THE LONG SHORE ENTRANCE, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT ENTRANCE MORE PROMINENT? IT WAS TOO SKINNY BEFORE IT JUST DIDN'T WORK.
THE PARAPETS NEEDED TO BE BETTER.
THE, THE, THE GROUND FLOOR NEEDED TO BE DEFINED BETTER.
AND WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH STAFF TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE A STRONGER, MUCH MORE DEFINED ENTRYWAY THERE NOW AS WE GOT TO THE GARAGE.
AND, AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THE EIGHTH GARAGE IN THE DISTRICT, UM, WHICH IS A TESTAMENT TO THE DEDICATION TO THIS PLAN BY THE CITY AND YOURSELVES.
BUT WITHIN THAT GARAGE, THE, THESE ARE THE HARDEST THINGS.
HOW DO YOU MAKE SOMETHING UTILITARIAN REALLY, UM, REALLY MELD AND BLEND WITH THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURE? UM, WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE ENTRY AT THE CORNER OF MOONEY AND AND TELLER AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS, IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT REALLY STARTS TO SIGNIFY THE PROMINENCE OF, OF THIS DISTRICT ON THE CORNER.
YOU GET INTO THE PANELING, THE, THE PROUD ENTRY SO THAT THE CARS KNOW WHERE TO GO.
WE HAVE A BASE THAT WE'RE GONNA SET WITH A GREEN WALL VERSUS THAT OF JUST HAVING THE PANELS COME ALL THE WAY DOWN AND KISS THE GROUND.
OUR MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE DESIGNS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TOUCHED THE LEAST, BUT THEY'VE BEEN REFINED IN A VERY, VERY GOOD WAY.
AGAIN, MORE PROMINENT CORNERS DETAILING IN PLANES.
WE'VE GOT LESS JUST FLAT FACADES.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY DEFINE THE BRICK AS IT AS IT TRAVELS UP.
TWO, THREE STORIES IN DIFFERENT SPACES TO MAKE SURE THE SCALE IS CORRECT.
YOU KNOW, WIDE COMMERCIAL GLAZING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE HOTEL.
THE HOTEL IS A TEMPO THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN OHIO.
IT'S GONNA BE THE SECOND OF ITS KIND JUST OUTSIDE OF LOUISVILLE IN THE MIDWEST.
THE TEMPO HOTEL IS A FANTASTIC, UM, HILTON BRAND, AND WE REALLY WORKED HARD ON THE CORNER.
HOW DO WE GET THAT PROMINENT CORNER? HOW DO WE CHANGE THE MATERIALITY SO IT DOESN'T ALL JUST BLEND IN TOGETHER? HOW DO WE RAISE THAT CORNER? HOW DO WE INCORPORATE ARTWORK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS HOTEL? THE INTERACTION WITH THE PARK FROM DIFFERENT, UM, UH, DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USES WAS STUDIED VERY HARD AND VERY INTENTLY WITH THE PARK DESIGN AND EVEN WITH THE CHALLENGE OF ALL THE CONDITIONS WITH UTILITIES, WE MADE IT WORK.
AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT AFTER A, A LOT OF MEETINGS AND A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS PICTURE I THINK SAYS IT ALL.
IF, IF ANYBODY CAN FOLLOW ANY OF THOSE LINES, I, I WILL SEND YOU RIGHT OVER TO EM, H AND T AND, AND GIVE YOUR LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FOR A JOB.
WE WORKED IN THREE DIMENSIONS, NOT JUST TWO DIMENSIONS.
THEY'RE NOT JUST FLAT LINES ON A SHEET.
WE'VE GOT UTILITIES CROSSING, CARRYING, BRIDGING.
UM, WHEN YOU DO THIS TYPE OF WORK, AS YOU KNOW WITH THE OTHER BLOCKS, IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE THESE UTILITIES FUNCTIONAL, BUT ALSO AESTHETICALLY THEY GO AWAY.
AND THAT'S BEEN A, A BIG, BIG EFFORT BY THIS ENTIRE TEAM.
SO WITH THAT, THIS WILL BE MY LAST SLIDE AND I'LL ALLOW STAFF TO TAKE OVER AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK UP AND ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
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UM, I'LL REQUEST THIS EVENING, AS YOU KNOW, IN YOUR REPORT, UM, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED ACCEPTANCE OF ALL FOUR, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS.UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS PLEASE GRANT THE, UH, BRIDGE NORTH CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, UM, WITH THIS KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE LOOKED THROUGH INTENTLY AND SPOKEN WITH STAFF, AND WE ARE FULL ACCEPTANCE OF THE 19 CONDITIONS THAT ARE THERE TODAY.
UM, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO IS THAT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO TAKE OUR NEXT STEPS.
OUR NEXT STEPS ARE TO SIGN THAT OFFICE LEASE TO NEGOTIATE SIX OF THE COMMERCIAL LOIS THAT WE HAVE PENDING RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS EXTREMELY EXCITING, BOTH IN FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND SOFT GOODS.
UM, WE GET TO DELIVER THE TEMPO FDP APPROVAL, WHICH ALLOWS HILTON A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT AND GRACE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD.
SATISFIED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WE CAN GO WITH TIPAN OUR LOANS, UM, CLOSE THE BOND AGREEMENT, CLEARLY HIRE THE BEST CONTRACTOR IN COLUMBUS AND DAIMLER AND THEN ENDEAVOR TO BREAK GROUND QUARTER ONE OF 2027.
SO WITH THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THIS WILL LEAD US FORWARD FOR OVER 850,000 SQUARE FOOT OF DEVELOPMENT, THE FIRST TEMPO HOTEL IN OHIO, A SUBSTANTIAL PARK PRESENCE THROUGHOUT THIS BLOCK.
A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS NEW TO NEW TO COLUMBUS WITH 80,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE, THE EIGHTH, UH, GARAGE IN THE DISTRICT TOTALING OVER $250 MILLION OF TOTAL DEVELOPMENT ADDED TO THIS DISTRICT.
SO OUR TEAM IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER STAFF AND MORE THAN ANYTHING, TRULY THANK YOU FOR BEING YOUR TIME.
OKAY, MS. SINGH, YOUR PRESENTATION PLEASE.
SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
THE PURPOSE TONIGHT IS TO ASSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE PDP AND FINALIZE DETAILS FOR ARCHITECTURE, OPEN SPACE, MATERIALS, ET CETERA.
THE CONSIDERATIONS TONIGHT ARE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, OPEN SPACE, DETAILS, SITE AND PARKING DETAILS, LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS WAIVERS.
WAIVERS ARE GENERALLY REQUESTED AT THIS STEP, WHICH ARE DEVIATIONS FROM A SPECIFIC CODE.
REQUIREMENTS AND WAIVER REQUESTS ARE TYPICALLY EXPECTED AS A PART OF DEVELOPMENT DURING THE BSD CODE AND ARE IMPORTANT TOOLS FOR THE APPLICANTS TO CREATE A VERY HIGH QUALITY DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.
THE WAIVER ALSO PERMIT FORM BASED CODES TO BE SOFTENED BASED ON THE UNIQUE SITE CHARACTERISTICS AND UNIQUE SITE CONDITIONS AS WELL.
AN ACTION IS REQUIRED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS TONIGHT AND AFTER TONIGHT.
THE NEXT STEP, THE APPLICANT MAY APPLY FOR THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL PLAT.
THE SEVEN ACRE SITE IS LOCATED NORTHEAST AT THE INTERSECTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY.
IT WAS BOUND TO NORTH BY TELE ROAD AND TO EAST BY PROPOSED MOONEE STREET EXTENSION.
THE SCIENTISTS CURRENTLY AWAKEN AND CONTAINS MINIMAL VEGETATION AND HAS A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE FROM EAST TO THE WEST OF APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET.
THE BRI STREET DISTRICT CODE CREATES NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS THAT EMPHASIZE THE LOCATION AND CHARACTER OF THE BUILDINGS, THE STREETS, AND THE OPEN SPACE TO SUPPORT A COORDINATED MIX OF USERS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
THE BRIS STREET DISTRICT, SCIOTO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT OFFERS A PRIME OPPORTUNITY FOR THOUGHTFUL PLANNING AND FEATURING A BALANCED MIX OF RESIDENTIAL OFFICE SERVICE AND DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USERS AS WELL.
THE STREET NETWORK IS DESIGNED TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE AND WALKABLE CONNECTING THESE DIVERSE USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE YELLOW STAR AND IT IS IDENTIFIED AS A GATEWAY FEATURE AT BOTH IS NORTHWEST AS WELL AS THE SOUTHWEST CON PER CODE.
THE GATEWAY LOCATIONS ARE POINT OF IDENTIFICATION THAT PROVIDES A SENSE OF ARRIVAL TO THE USERS AND THE RESIDENTS AND THEY SHALL BE VERY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED WITH COMBINATION OF ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS, DIFFERENT DETAILS AND LANDSCAPE FEATURES AND KIND OF PROVIDING, UM, CLOSENESS TO PRINCIPLES OF WALKING URBANISM AS WELL.
THE SOUTHEAST CORNERS DUE TO THIS CURVATURE OF JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY IS RECOGNIZED AS A TERMINAL VISTA, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED BY A LITTLE ORANGE STAR.
AND PER CODE REQUIREMENTS, TERMINAL VISTAS AGAIN REQUIRE SPECIAL INTENTION BY INCORPORATING SOME VERTICAL ELEMENTS OR MAYBE AS A PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.
THE RIVERSIDE PLANT, UH, THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE HAS ALSO PLANNED TO HAVE AN OPEN SPACE CORRIDOR WITH A CENTRAL OPEN SPACE NODE, WHICH IS WITHIN THE BLOCK ITSELF.
AND THERE IS A FUTURE BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER THAT WILL MAKE JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY A PROMINENT GATEWAY LOCATION.
THE PRI STREET DISTRICT CODE CREATES A GRIDED STREET NETWORK WITH DIFFERENT STREET TYPES.
RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS A CORRIDOR STREET CONNECTOR AND A PRINCIPAL STREET FRONTAGE WITH A TULLAH ROAD AND JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY AS DISTRICT CONNECTORS AS WELL AS THE PRINCIPAL FRONTAGE STREET AS WELL.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES EXTENDING THE LONGSHORE STREET, WHICH STOP IS SUPPORTIVE
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OF, EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS NOT COMPLAIN DE PLATED IN THE VIS STREET DISTRICT NETWORK PLAN.THIS CONNECTION WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED CORRIDOR AND FITS WITHIN THE VISION AND THE CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT AS WELL.
THIS WILL BE A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET AND THERE IS WILL BE NO TRAFFIC STUDY NEEDED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT JUST BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL FITS THE EXPECTED DENSITY.
A QUICK HISTORY, THE MOST RECENTLY COMMISSION APPROVED THE UH, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN LAST YEAR WITH 36 WAIVERS AND CONDITIONS AS LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
TO SUMMARIZE THE CONDITIONS INCLUDED ENHANCING THE NORTHWEST CORNER AS WELL AS PROVIDING A UNIQUE GATEWAY DESIGN AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, REFINED RESIDENTIAL A B AND THE PARKING GARAGE BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURE AND PROVIDE A PARKING PLAN.
AT THIS STAGE WHERE WE ARE TODAY, I WILL TARGET MY PRESENTATION TO STAFF FINDINGS REQUESTED ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES AS WELL AS THE WAIVERS.
THE EXTENSION OF THE LONGSHORE MOONEY, UH, LONGSHORE DRIVE AND THE MOONEY STREET, UH, WILL ACT AS A PUBLIC STREET.
THEY WILL DIVIDE THE BLOCK INTO TWO RECTANGULAR BLOCKS.
ALL OF THESE BLOCKS WERE DESIGNED CONSISTENTLY WITH THE OTHER BLOCKS.
THE A WAIVER WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE BLOCK DIMENSIONS JUST BECAUSE THEY EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PARAMETER AND THE LENGTH PERMITTED BY THE CODE.
SINCE THERE IS THE GRADING CHALLENGES ON THE SIDE, STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH NOT PROVIDING A STREET CONNECTION THROUGH THAT BLOCK.
THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FOUR ACCESS THAT IS BEING PROVIDED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE TWO FOR THE GARAGES AND TWO FOR THE TRASH SERVICES.
THERE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PDP.
A SECTION OF THE LONGSHORE DRIVE IS PROPOSED TO UTILIZE THE V OF STREET CONCEPT AT THE, IN THE FRONT OF THE ZONE TWO AND ZONE FIVE AREA, WHICH WILL BE A FLASH CURB CREATING A VERY SEAMLESS CONNECTION FROM THE CENTRAL PLAZA TO THOSE TWO COURTYARDS.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING EXTENDING THAT PAPER TREATMENT UP UNTIL THE TWO POCKET PARKS TO CREATE A VISUAL AND A PHYSICAL CONTINUITY BETWEEN THE CENTRAL PLAZA AS WELL AS THE TWO POCKET PLAZAS EDGES INTO HOTEL AS WELL AS THE OFFICE AREA AS WELL.
WITH THE GRAND APPROVAL, THERE WERE TWO ACCESS POINTS, THEY WERE APPROVED AS WELL AND IT WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED THAT WHENEVER THE MOONEY STREET EXTENSION WILL BE DONE, THAT POINT WILL BE CONNECTED TO MOONEY STREET.
THE GRAND DOES NOT WISH TO CONNECT THOSE AND HAS REQUESTED AN AMENDMENT TO THE GRANT APPROVAL WITH THIS APPLICATION.
STAFF IN WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST AND THIS CONSTITUTES AN AMENDMENT TO GRANTS DEVELOPMENT PLANS AS WELL.
OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT ARE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL.
THE PROJECT REQUIRES 1.44 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED 0.69 ACRES ON SITE AND THE REMAINDER IS WAIVED OFF DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY TO THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING.
PARKS AND FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS PER DA.
ALL THE OPEN SPACES ARE VERY HIGH QUALITY AND INTERCONNECTED.
HOWEVER, STAFF HAS CONCERNED WITH THE NORTHEAST PLAZA, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICANT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO PROVIDE A VERY FUNCTIONAL, HIGH QUALITY DESIGN THAT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.
CURRENTLY THE PLAZA CONFLICTS WITH BUILDING ENTRANCE LOCATIONS AND THE PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION NEEDS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
WITH THIS, THE WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED FOR THE OPEN SPACE SIZES AND THE LENGTH TO WIDTH RATIO.
STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH ALL THESE WAIVER REQUESTS.
THE STAFF IS ALSO REQUESTING, SORRY, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING APPROVAL OF PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW FOR, FOR ADJUSTMENT TO THE REQUIRED VEHICLE PARKING THROUGH THE SHARED PARKING CALCULATIONS WHICH ARE PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, A TOTAL OF 7 23 PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
THE PARKING DIAGRAM WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET AS WELL AND IT INCLUDES ADJUSTMENT PARKING GARAGES, GARAGE OF BLOCK C AS WELL AS OF BLOCK D, WHICH IDENTIFIES THE TOTAL AMOUNT AVAILABLE PARKING WITHIN THE 900 FEET AT THE P CARS.
SIMILAR PARKING PLANTS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR DIFFERENT BLOCKS THAT UTILIZE THE SHARED PARKING AROUND DIFFERENT GARAGES AS WELL.
PARKING LOT STRUCTURES ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO PROVIDE ELECTRIC PLUGIN SERVICE POINTS FOR 200 PARKING SPACES.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT PROVIDING THE ELECTRIC CAR CHARGING POINTS THAT WOULD MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
A TOTAL OF 215 BIKE PARKING ARE REQUIRED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND 1 38 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDED THAT AT PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT, APPLICANT WORKS WITH STAFF IN PROVIDING THE REQUIRED BIKE PARKING AS WELL.
I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAIL AS THE APPLICANT HAS EXPLAINED THE CHANGES MADE SINCE FTP AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE CORNER OF THE T AND RIVERSIDE IS
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IDENTIFIED AS A GATEWAY LOCATION.STAFF IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE REVISED NORTHWEST CORNER DESIGN INTENT.
HOWEVER, STAFF FEELS THAT THE UPPER PORTION OF THE TOWER ELEMENT REQUIRES FURTHER REFINEMENT TO ACHIEVE AN APPROPRIATE PROMINENCE AT THAT CORNER, GIVEN THAT IT IS A GATE FAIR LOCATION AND IN BALANCE WITH AN OVERALL BUILDING MASS AS WELL.
STAFF HAS SHARED SOME TEMPO HOTEL LOCATIONS WITHIN THE NATIONWIDE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, WHICH UTILIZES THESE FEATURES AND WHICH ARE VERY PROMINENT AT THE CORNER AS WELL AS MENTIONED SINCE IT'S A GATEWAY LOCATION THAT'S CURRENTLY RENDERED THE TOP MOST SECTIONS REQUIRED.
ADDITIONAL DELIBERATE EXPRESSIVE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT WHICH WOULD ENHANCE THIS CORNER AND MAKE IT MORE PROMINENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS EITHER ACCOMMODATING THE PROPORTIONS OF THE UPPER PROPORTIONS OF THE TRAVEL STRUCTURE EITHER BY A PHYSICAL PROJECTION OR BY A MATERIAL TRANSITION.
THE PHYSICAL PROJECTION COULD INCLUDE MAYBE A SLIGHT PLAN DELIVER OR ARTICULATED CORNERS OR MAYBE A MATERIAL TRANSITION THAT COULD INCLUDE A CAPSTONE THAT COULD DISTINGUISH THE FEATURE FROM THE TOP OF THE MURAL AS WELL.
WITH THIS, THERE IS A REQUEST OF FIVE WAIVERS AND FOUR ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES AND THEN TWO CONDITIONS THAT THEY CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND PROVIDE GLAZING SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE GLAZING THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR THE HOTEL BUILDING.
AS NOTED BY THE APPLICANT, THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS TO THE UPPER FLOOR OF THE OFFICE BUILDING TO MAXIMIZE THE INTERNAL OFFICE SQUARE FOOTAGE AT PDP STAFF.
RECOMMENDED, UM, EVALUATING THE ARCHITECTURE APPROPRIATENESS BETWEEN THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE OTHER FLOORS.
MATERIAL TRANSITION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS UM, INCORPORATING A SLIGHT PHYSICAL PROJECTION AGAIN TO ESTABLISH A MORE DISTINCT SHADOW LINE AND MORE ARCHITECTURALLY APPROPRIATE TRANSITION.
THE APPLICANT HAS INTRODUCED A SHOULDER COURSE IN BETWEEN, BUT THERE IS A MINIMAL PROJECTION TO IT SO IT DOESN'T REALLY DEFINE A HIGH SHADOW LINE.
AND THEN STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS ADDING A GATEWAY ENHANCEMENT OR ENHANCING THE GATEWAY ENHANCEMENT AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
THAT COULD INCLUDE A CANOPY OR ANY OTHER ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS.
WITH THIS SIX WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED.
IN ADDITION TO THE WAIVERS APPROVED AT THE PDP, THE APPLICANTS HAS REFINED THE DESIGN AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS AND HAS SATISFIED ALL THE CONDITIONS FROM THE PDP FOR THE RESIDENTIAL A BUILDING AND WITH FTP ADDITIONAL EIGHT WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT TEAMS HAS ADDRESSED ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE PDP TO STAFF SATISFACTION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL B BUILDING, WHICH ALSO INCORPORATED THE COHESIVE MATERIAL PALETTE ALL AROUND ALL THE FACADES AS WELL.
WITH THIS SIX WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED AND A RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED.
THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THE ELEVATION TO ESTABLISH A VERY COHESIVE STRUCTURE AND STAFF HAS ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AS WELL.
THERE IS NO CANOPY CURRENTLY AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE GARAGE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS ADDING A CANOPY TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE GARAGE ALONG MOONEE STREET.
THERE IS A CANOPY THAT IS SHOWN ON THE TELLER AND THE MOON INTERSECTION AT THE UM, CORNER TOWER.
HOWEVER, THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE MAIN PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE TO THAT BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE A CANOPY.
SO STAFF RECOMMEND ADDING THAT, HIGHLIGHTING THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE BETWEEN THE ELAS BY EXPOSING SOME OF THE BRICK KNEE WALLS AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS SO THAT THE BRICK STRUCTURE COULD BE EXPOSED A LITTLE BIT CODE ALSO REQUIRES THE HORIZONTAL FACADE DIVISIONS TO END APPROXIMATELY THREE FEET ABOVE THE GROUND.
STORY STAFF RECOMMENDS EXTENDING THAT BRICK CAR BILLING SO THAT IT ENDS ABOVE THREE FEET AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
CURRENTLY WITHIN THE GARAGE THERE ARE SOME OVERSIZED DRIVEBYS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THREE STRIPING THOSE DRIVEBYS TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS UM, THE CODE AND THEIR COMPLIANT DIMENSIONS OF THE PARKING.
PROVIDE SURVEILLANCE INFORMATION AT THE NEXT STEP AND PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE AND ENTERING DETAILS FOR THE PROPOSED PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES FROM THE GARAGE.
THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES THAT CONNECT TO BOTH THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS PROVIDING THAT WITH THIS FIVE WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED AND A RIGHT OF ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED.
SO APPLICANT TEAM HAS LARGELY ADDRESSED ALL THE CONDITIONS WHICH WERE FROM THE PDP FOR THE RESIDENTIAL LINER BUILDING.
AT THE PDP, THERE WAS A CANOPY THAT WAS SHOWN AT THE TELLER AND LONGSHORE INTERSECTION.
STAFF RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDS REINTRODUCING THAT PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT.
THERE IS A BRICK CAR BELLING DETAILING THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FACADES OF THE GARAGE AND THE LINER, BUT
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THAT IS NOT PRESENT ON THE ELEVATION.THAT IS ALONG LONGSHORE STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDS ADDING THAT BRICK, UM, REBELLING DETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR SO THAT THE BUILDING IS MORE COHESIVE.
WITH THIS SEVEN PAPERS ARE REQUESTED AND THERE IS ONE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURE AS WELL FOR THE SCREENING.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING UM, SCREENING AT MULTIPLICATION MULTIPLE LOCATIONS FOR TRANSFORMERS AND UTILITY EQUIPMENTS.
THEY'RE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THE BLACK CIRCLES ARE ON THE SCREEN.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A MIDDLE SCREENING WITH SOME CUSTOM GRAPHICS AND INTEGRATED LIGHTING.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS PROVIDING THOSE UM, SCREENING DETAILS AT THE NEXT STEP.
SO WITH THIS WE HAVE FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES FOR THE HOTEL BUILDING.
UM, SORRY, FOUR FOR THE HOTEL BUILDING AND ONE FOR THE LINER BUILDING.
AND THERE ARE 43 WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUIRED, UM, THAT APPLICANT IS REQUESTING WITH ALL THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS AS WELL AS LOTS AND BLOCKS.
SO THESE WAIVERS COVERS THE LOTS AND BLOCKS, OPEN SPACES AND ALL THESE SIX BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT LISTED HERE ARE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA.
ALL OF THESE CRITERIA ARE EITHER MET WITH PARKING PLAN, ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES, WAIVERS OR CONDITIONS.
THE DETAILS OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA AS LISTED WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
THESE ARE CONTINUED CRITERIA HERE WITH THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PARKING PLAN.
APPROVAL OF FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES, APPROVAL OF 43, WAIVERS OF ALL THE BUILDINGS WITHIN THIS BLOCK AND APPROVAL OF FTP WITH FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
THE APPLICANT UPDATE THE CIVIL PLANS TO SHOW THE EXTENSION OF THE VEHICULAR GRADE PAVERS THE APPLICANT MEET THE PARKING BIKE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
WORK ON THE NORTHEAST POCKET PARK TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN.
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE HOTEL BUILDING.
THE NORTHWEST CORNER PROVIDES GLAZING SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE HOTEL BUILDING.
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE OFFICE BUILDING SO THAT THERE IS APPROPRIATE MATERIAL TRANSITION.
THE APPLICANT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO PROVIDE SOME ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL OR CANOPY AT THE OFFICE BUILDING.
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE GARAGE BUILDING.
AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, SUBMIT A COMPLETE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURAL AND ENGINEERING DETAIL FOR THE BRIDGES AS PROPOSED.
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE BRICK CAR BUILDING ON THE LINER BUILDING ALONG LONG SHOW STREET.
PROVIDE CANOPIES AT ALL ENTRANCES WHERE POSSIBLE.
PROVIDE SURVEILLANCE INFORMATION WITHIN THE GARAGE STRUCTURE.
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING DETAILS OF THE UTILITY STRUCTURES.
SUBMIT AN UPDATED PHOTOMETRIC PLAN AT SITE PERMIT, SUBMIT ALL SPECIFICATIONS AND CUT SHEETS FOR DECORATIVE LIGHTING AND OBTAIN RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT PURPOSE.
PERMITS TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO REFINE THE PROPOSED STREET TYPOLOGIES AND ENSURE THAT ALL ROADWAY STREETSCAPE AND RIGHT OF WAY DIMENSIONS ARE CONSISTENT.
CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH CITY STAFF TO REFINE AND PROVIDE FINAL UTILITY ALIGNMENTS AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ENGINEERING TO DEMONSTRATE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT COMPLIANCE.
WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSION, I'M SURE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
MR. GARVIN, SHALL WE START WITH YOUR SIDE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL ALONE OVER THERE AND SURE.
ON MY ISLAND YOU MAKE WELL I WANT YOU TO FEEL INCLUDED
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, YOU KNOW, NOT A LOT OF SURPRISES BASED ON OUR LAST VIEW OF THIS.
UM, I THINK MY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE MICROPHONES.
I THINK MY CONCERN LAST MEETING, A LOT OF IT WAS AROUND THAT OPEN SPACE WAIVER.
UM, SO THE TWO THINGS I GUESS I'M MOST CONCERNED WITH, ONE, HAVE ANY OTHER SPACES USED THAT RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK TO OFFSET OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS? IT'S NOT BEING DOUBLE USED IN ANY CASE, IS IT? SO THIS ONE IS NOT BEING DOUBLE USED AND IT'S BEEN TYPICAL FOR ALL THE BLOCKS, THE SAME PROCESS ALONG THE SITE DRIVE.
AND THEN ALSO JUST ON SOME OF THE ACTIVATED ALLEYWAYS, WHICH I WOULD AGREE ARE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THAT, THAT DISTRICT, HOW DO YOU MAKE THE CALCULATION, WE'VE GOT MECHANICS AND KIND OF A PATHWAY THAT WOULD EXIST ANYWAY.
HOW DO YOU MAKE THE CALCULATION FOR HOW MUCH THAT IS OPEN SPACE? YEAH, SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO WHAT WE DO IS WE EXCLUDE WHEREVER THE TRANSFORMERS AND ANY OTHER UTILITY ITEMS ARE THERE.
SO WE EXCLUDE THAT FROM THE CALCULATIONS AND THEN WE CALCULATE.
SO WHAT YOU SEE BETWEEN LIKE MAYBE THE OFFICE AND THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, IT'S NOT ALL OF THE AREA THAT'S THE UM, OPEN SPACE.
THE AREAS THAT IS WITHIN THE UTILITY STRUCTURE IS EXCLUDED FROM THE CALCULATIONS.
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THEN LAST ONE, UM, MAYBE I'D RUN BY STAFF BEFORE I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT, UM, GIVEN THE NEED, EXCUSE ME FOR MORE BICYCLE PARKING.I THINK I'VE SEEN KIND OF MORE ARTISTIC VERSIONS OF BICYCLE PARKING AND LOCK OPTIONS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY SUPPORTS? YES, DEFINITELY.
CITY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
AND THEN, UM, I GUESS BRIEFLY THEN TO THE APPLICANT, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER AS WELL? GREAT.
UM, SORRY, ON THE SCREENING, UM, IS THAT CONSIDERED ARTWORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED? I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME SIMILAR QUESTIONS IN OTHER PARTS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF WOULD HAVE TO SEE.
SO DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE, UM, WHAT IS THE KIND OF THE ARTWORK THAT IS BEING PROPOSED THAT WOULD TRIGGER IF THERE IS SOMETHING, ADDITIONAL INTERVENTION IS NEEDING TO BE NEEDED.
BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE MANAGED WITH THE LIGHT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT UM, UH, I WOULD SAY OBJECTIONABLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
STAFF WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
SHOULD IT REQUIRE ANYTHING THAT IT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK THEN.
MS. HARD, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I GUESS ON THE SCREENING TOO.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD INCORPORATE IN, UH, THE DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL OR IS THAT, WHEN WOULD YOU BE OR, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT? SO MAYBE THE DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL.
I KNOW WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT IS BEING SET UP OR THAT'S ALREADY BEING SET UP, WHICH KIND OF REVIEWS ALL THESE KIND OF ART INSTALLATIONS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING IF IT'S, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ART WITHIN THOSE MIDDLE SCREENING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE REVIEWED BY THAT TEAM AS WELL.
I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE BIKES AND BIKE STANDS AND IT SEEMS LIKE BIKES ARE GETTING HEAVIER WITH THE E-BIKES.
DOES THE STANDS CHANGE OR IS THAT ANYTHING THAT, UH, THAT QUESTION DOWN THE ROAD AS WELL? I'M UNSURE ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN RACKS THAT, UH, THE PARTS DEPARTMENT PREFERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SECURE.
SO ANY, ANY OF THOSE SPECIFICATIONS WE WOULD REVIEW AT THAT POINT.
AND MAYBE JUST TO CLARIFY IN TERMS OF THE SCREENING, UH, AS PROPOSED, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT 3D REQUIRES THE PUBLIC ARTS BOARD IN THIS CASE.
UH, AS MS ING MENTIONED, IF IT RISES TO THAT LEVEL, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE, UH, BODY, BUT WE THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT ADMINISTRATIVELY GIVEN THE FUNCTION OF THAT PARTICULAR SCREENING.
UM, LEMME MAKE SURE I HAVE MY, I THINK I'LL WAIT AND THEN, UM, RE RESERVE TIME LATER.
MR. CHINOOK, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
OBVIOUSLY VERY THOROUGH AND NIGHT LIKE, I THINK, UH, DAN SAID NOT, NOT A LOT OF SURPRISES.
UM, THERE WAS ONE, ONE SURPRISE THEY WANNA ADDRESS THOUGH THE, THE, FOR THE STAFF, I GUESS FOR, FOR STAFF.
WHEN WE USE THAT OPEN SPACE, UH, WELL, WELL, SORRY, LEMME BACK UP ONE SECOND.
IS THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT OR THE OPEN SPACE ACCOMPLISHED HERE THE SAME OR HAS IT BEEN REDUCED FROM THE LAST TIME WE SAW THIS? OR IS IT THE SAME? IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BECAUSE THE POCKET PARK LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE, OR THE ZONE TWO PARK IS SMALLER THAN IT WAS PRIOR TO PRESENTED.
IT IS A SMALLER, BUT THEN AT THE PDP, THE UM, HOTEL RESTAURANT WAS A PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS NOW BECOMING THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.
SO THEY HAVE MANAGED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THAT AREA.
SO THEN WE, WHEN WE USE THE PARK ACROSS, UM, RIVERSIDE DRIVE BRIDGE PARK ACROSS, AS PART OF THAT GREEN SPACE CALCULATION, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF CONNECTIVITY AND, AND, AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY? ARE WE, IS THE CITY GOING TO DO ANYTHING AT TALLER TO, 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA CROSS THERE, I WOULD ASSUME WHEN THEY'RE STAYING AT THE HOTEL.
ARE THERE SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS FOR PEDESTRIANS ALONG? SO THAT WILL BECOME OF THE PART OF THE OVERALL RIVERSIDE PLAN THAT IS THE LARGER PLAN FOR THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK.
SO THAT BECOMES THE PART OF THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARKS.
BUT THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT WITH YES, THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT WHEN THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARKS MASTER PLAN COMES IN PLACE.
UM, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, AGAIN, VERY IMPRESSIVE, UM, PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY YOUR COMMITMENT IS, IS, IS, UM, INCREDIBLE.
THE, THE ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE THOUGH IS WHEN, WHEN YOU GUYS WERE HERE THE LAST COUPLE TIMES, ONE COMMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP MULTIPLE TIMES WAS THE LONG STORY LONG SHORE STREET.
AND I GUESS CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, DID YOU EXPLORE THAT NOT BEING, BEING ONLY EMERGENCY ACCESS? OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE, UM, AC PUBLIC ACCESS FOR AUTOMOTIVE TRAFFIC? 'CAUSE WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CREATE SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE WHERE THAT'S ALL PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
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CAN OPEN IT UP, WE CAN GET A LOT MORE WALKABILITY.WE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS AND THEN WE'VE DRIVEN A, UH, PUT A ROAD RIGHT THROUGH THE HEART OF THIS PROJECT.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY YOU HAVEN'T MADE ANY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT? THERE WE GO.
UH, WE DID, WE DID SPEAK ABOUT THAT LAST TIME AND WE TOOK A GOOD LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND WE HAVE, WE'VE RETAINED, UH, LEASING EXPERT AND REALLY WENT OUT AND AS THIS WAS TAKEN EVEN TO, UH, NEW YORK'S ICSC AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AND TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW PEOPLE WOULD FEEL ABOUT LEASING THE SPACES THAT WOULD COME OUT THERE, UM, THERE IS STILL A BELIEF THAT THE, THE VEHICLE WANTING TO PARK IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SPACE IS THE WAY THAT A LOT OF THESE RETAILERS WORK.
NOW, NOT TAKING ALL OF THEIR, THEIR, THEIR NOTES FOR IT.
WE THEN LOOKED AT THE REALITY OF THE WAY THAT THE SITE SLOPES TO GET SERVICES DOWN.
YOU'D HAVE TO CREATE ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, TRASH ELEVATORS AND, YOU KNOW, LONGER PATHWAYS TO SERVICES.
SO WITH THE SERVICES BEING REQUIRED THERE, NOW, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR PROGRAMMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEEK AND TAKE TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT PEDESTRIAN ONLY FOR CERTAIN HOURS AND CERTAIN PROGRAMS? ABSOLUTELY.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO SOLVE THAT THROUGH PROGRAMMING.
BUT ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS IT WILL STILL HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE ACCESS, UM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A, A, A CHALLENGE A LITTLE BIT TO THE VEHICULAR ACCESS HERE.
UM, AS YOU COME FROM RIVERSIDE, UH, LET'S JUST SAY YOU'RE GOING SOUTH DOWN RIVERSIDE, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO, UH, GET ONTO TELLER.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME DOWN TO JOHN SHIELDS.
YOU GO ROUND JOHN SHIELDS, BUT THEN YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR LEFT INTO THAT ROAD EITHER.
YOU HAVE TO THEN GO ALL THE WAY AROUND TO TELLER TO ACTUALLY GET ONTO LONG SHORE.
I SAY THAT WHY, WELL, NUMBER ONE, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH, RIGHT? NUMBER TWO, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHILE WE WILL HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS THERE, I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT TO BE MASSIVE.
SO THE, THE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE IN THE, THAT ARE THE RESIDENTS, THE HOTEL, THE OFFICE SPACE, THE, THEY ARE PRIMARILY GONNA BE PARKING IN THE GARAGE? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THE, THE ONLY, ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WILL BE PARKING ON THE STREET PARKING WILL BE, WE'LL CALL IT DAY USE RETAIL.
YOU'RE GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT OF THE HOTEL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE HOTEL OPERATION REALLY WANTS YOU TO PARK THERE AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA TAKE YOU AND TAKE YOUR CAR INTO THE GARAGE.
SO YEAH, WE ANTICIPATE DAY USE, WE ANTICIPATE SERVICES, UH, WE DO HAVE LOADING ZONES THERE TYPICAL TO THE DISTRICT DURING THE DAY.
UM, SO THAT IS THE, THE TYPE OF VEHICULAR INTERACTION WE, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THERE.
AGAIN, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH, THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO SOME MORE.
LIKE, I APPRECIATE YOU'RE DOING THE PROGRAMMING.
IF WE COULD REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT A LOT.
I THINK THIS COULD BE A REALLY SPECIAL PLACE, UM, WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'RE ALL DYING FROM MORE OUTDOOR SPACE AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT, A GREAT SOLVE FOR, SORRY, I'M DELIBERATION, SORRY,
THERE'S, THERE'S A QUESTION THERE, I PROMISE.
BUT, UH, THE OTHER QUESTION TOO, UH, IS THERE CONCERNS WITH TALLER ROAD? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, TALLER ROAD GETS VERY BUSY BACKED UP AND THAT, THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CITY TOO.
I, THAT'S AGAIN, I KNOW YOU SAID THERE'S GONNA BE LIMITED TRAFFIC, BUT YOU THINK THE TRAFFIC FLOW, I'M GONNA ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION.
YOU THINK THE TRAFFIC FLOWS LESS THERE? THAT WON'T BE A, A, A, A HINDRANCE TO TALLER RED? I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE MUCH OF A HINDRANCE.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK, ASIDE FROM THOSE WHO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME DOWN THROUGH THE GARAGE TO GET TO GET ON THE LONG SHORE, WHICH I BELIEVE A MAJORITY, THE WAY THAT GARAGE IS ORIENTED, A MAJORITY OF THAT'S GONNA GO INTO MOONEY BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE FLOOR OF GARAGE THAT'S GOT, I WANNA SAY JUST LESS THAN 40 SPACES THAT REALLY FACE LONGSHORE.
SO I THINK INHERENTLY YOU'LL HAVE LESS TRAFFIC.
WHEN WE DID TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THIS AND TRAFFIC, UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS PART OF THIS PROJECT DOES ACTUALLY PINCH TELLER DOWN, UM, BY CITY'S REQUEST.
SO, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY CREATING AND WHAT IS NOW A THREE-LANE DRIVE ON TELLER, WE'RE CREATING A PARALLEL SPOT CONSISTENT WITH THE DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
SO, UM, IT IS GONNA PINCH IT DOWN IN THIS BLOCK FOR THAT BLOCK, UM, WHICH WAS AN INTERESTING PIECE AND NOT SURE IF THAT HELPS OR HINDERS YOUR CONCERN.
UM, THAT SAID, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE MUCH NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC COMING FROM LONGSHORE ONTO TELLER.
AND THEN, SORRY, ONE FINAL QUESTION.
THE, IN TERMS OF THE AMENITIES, I KNOW THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF RETAIL PROPOSED HERE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT TYPE OF, LIKE, IS IT MORE RESTAURANTS? IS IT MORE RETAIL? COULD THERE BE GROCERY? IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE LIKE THE RESIDENTS? CAN THEY, CAN THEY NOT GET IN THEIR CARS AND LEAVE TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE? HAVE YOU TALKED ANY, ANYTHING ABOUT REALLY A TRUE WALKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE? I'M HUNG UP ON DRIVING RIGHT NOW, I APOLOGIZE, BUT NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
UM, WE, WE HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKEN,
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UH, TO A GROCER AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY TOUGH PUT TO GET THEM THERE ON THEIR OWN TERMINOLOGY.THEIR OWN TERMS. SO I DON'T BELIEVE GOING TO GET, UH, GET GROCERIES IS GONNA BE A WAY TO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT ONE.
THAT SAID, UM, WE HAVE TALKED TO SOME FOLKS THAT ARE MORE LIFESTYLE CONCEPTS.
UM, WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR AT LEAST FIVE FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UM, WITH, UM, AN ADDITIONAL ONE THAT WOULD BE MORE, UM, WE JUST CALL IT CASUAL, QUICK SERVE, UM, AND AMENITIES.
WE'VE, UH, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH A COFFEE USER OR TWO.
UM, SO THE INTENT IS THAT WITH THE PROGRAM, WITH THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT MIX, PLUS THROW IN SOME SOFT GOODS THAT ARE MORE LIFESTYLE PLUS A FITNESS OF FACILITY THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH THAT'S GONNA KEEP THEM THERE INHERENTLY TO THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S MORE JUST WHAT THEY HAVE.
THEY HAVE, THEY, THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE, UM, PRIVATE SKY DECK.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUSINESS CENTER.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, A POOL, A ROOFTOP, UM, A A PODIUM LEVEL AMENITY CLUB, FACILITIES, UM, SMALL THEATER, UH, LIBRARY POKER ROOM.
SO THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THEM HAPPY AND THERE, AND NOT TRAVELING TOO OFTEN BECAUSE WE, WE WANT THEM TO STAY FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, THANK, I THINK I'M GOOD FOR THE MOMENT.
MS. DAMER, ACTUALLY, IF THE APPLICANTS COULD STAY UP AT THE PODIUM.
UM, I WASN'T HERE WITH THE PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF THE PLAN WERE ADOPTED, SO I HOPE I'M NOT REPEATING QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DEALT WITH AND FINISHED, BUT, SO I JUST HAVE THE ONE, UM, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE TEMPO HOTEL STAFF HAS MENTIONED THAT THEY WANT IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE REMARKABLE.
AND I AGREE TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, I WORK AT THE RHODES OFFICE TOWER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT BUILDING THAT THE TOP THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR RENDERINGS, WHICH WE CASUAL OR YOU KNOW, UH, NICK HAVE NICKNAMED THE SHOEBOX IN THE SKY.
SO IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT SHOEBOX IN THE SKY IMAGE, I'M, WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF YOU REALLY ARE WORKING ON THAT TO MAKE THAT A MORE REMARKABLE CORNER, SO I CAN START WITH THIS, THEN I'D LIKE TO INVITE CHRIS MEYERS UP TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, I THINK THE WORK, AND, AND I DO RECOGNIZE YOU WEREN'T HERE BEFORE AND IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, HAVING NOT SEEN WHERE WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE COME FROM, UM, I THINK THE WORK THAT, THAT CHRIS AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE TO REALLY BRING THAT MORE TO LIGHT NOW, SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT WERE SHOWN UP THERE, I WILL NOTE THAT, UM, THERE, THERE ARE FAR DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND BUILDING TYPES ASIDE FROM THAT OF LOUISVILLE.
SO, UM, WE ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO MULTIPLE, UH, MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THIS, IN THIS WORLD OF THE HOTEL WORLD, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE HILTON TO TO SURE THERE DESIROUS OF SOLUTIONS.
UM, WE ARE DESIROUS OF SOLUTIONS, THE CITY'S DESIROUS OF SOLUTIONS AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE'VE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO REALLY DIFFERENTIATE THE, UM, THE PRODUCT TYPE, THE MATERIAL TYPE, THE COLORS AND CONTRAST, MATERIALITY, ADDING MORE BUMPS INTO WHAT IS REALLY A STACKED PROGRAM, UM, THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ON OUR SIDE OF REQUIREMENTS FROM THE BRAND.
BUT I THINK, CHRIS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE AND SORT OF MOVES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND MOVES THAT YOU'VE MADE, AND MAYBE TALK ABOUT OUR TOP HAT A LITTLE BIT.
CHRIS MYERS, MYERS AND ASSOCIATES ARCHITECTS.
UH, WHERE ARE WE? 2 32 NORTH THIRD STREET, COLUMBUS.
UM, I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE HOTEL.
UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S, THE ANSWER IS YES.
UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF.
MATT TENDS TO TELL YOU EVERYTHING I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU, SO I'LL JUST SAY IT A LITTLE, UH, DIFFERENTLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, LOOKING AT WITH THAT CORNER, UH, IS, IS HOW DO WE REALLY EXEMPLIFY A A WAY TO AMPLIFY THE CORNER WITHOUT OVER DOMINATING THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON IS, AND I ACTUALLY THINK DUBLIN IN GENERAL HAS A REALLY GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT WE WOULD CALL, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE HOLE FOR DESIGN OF A BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, LONG AGO WE USED TO SAY FOR SIDED ARCHITECTURE, AND I THINK DUBLIN HAS THAT BRIDGE PARK, BRIDGE NORTH, ALL OF THE, THIS AREA, UH, I THINK REALLY EXEMPLIFY THAT WELL.
BUT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, THINKING ABOUT IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND SORT OF CREATING THE, UH, ADAPTATIONS THAT, THAT YOU SAW TONIGHT IS, IS WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO AMPLIFY THAT CORNER AND I CAN TELL YOU THE 10 DIFFERENT THINGS WE DID TO DO SO.
UM, BUT THERE'S A GENTLE BALANCE TO NOT OVERDO THE ICONIC CORNER BECAUSE I THINK IT ACTUALLY TAKES AWAY FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE HOLE OF THE DESIGN OF NOT ONLY THE WHOLE
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BUILDING, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.SO THE, THE CELEBRATION OF CORNERS, UH, IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT IS VERY CLEAR AND WE'RE NOT FIGHTING THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SORT OF HAVE SEEN, I WOULD SAY IN ARCHITECTURE IN GENERAL IS, IS THE, IS THE ONSET OF INSTAGRAM, THE ONSET OF DESIGNING BUILDINGS BASED ON A RENDERING OR AN INSTAGRAM MOMENT TO BE ABLE TO GET A, A FEATURE AND NOT REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE WHOLE.
AND SO CONTINUING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT CORNER IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA DO.
UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE STAFF VERY HAPPY, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE REST OF THE, UH, THE BUILDING AND NOT ONLY ITS IMPACT TO THE ADJACENT WALL BESIDE IT, BUT THE THINGS ACROSS THE STREET AND THE THINGS WAY DOWN THE STREET.
SO THERE'S A COLLECTIVE HOLD THAT'S REALLY BEING APPROACHED IN THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE IMAGE THAT WAS SHOWN THAT SHOWED THE LAST PRESENTATION, OR I'M SORRY, THE FIRST PRESENTATION OF IT, AND THEN WHERE WE, UH, SIT TODAY, I DUNNO IF WE CAN ZOOM IN ANYMORE, BUT, UM, THE, THE ATTENTION TO CERTAIN ELEMENTS, UH, HAVE REALLY BEEN INCORPORATED TO, UH, AMPLIFY THIS CORNER.
SO THERE'S, UH, THERE'S BEEN THIS GREAT INTEGRATION OF LANDSCAPE AND WORKING WITH EDGE ON, UH, ALL THE THINGS THEY'RE DOING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
UH, BUT EVEN SOME VERY SUBTLE DETAILS LIKE THE PROGRAMMING ON THAT CORNER, THAT'S WHERE THE ATHLETIC PART OF, UM, THE, UH, THE FITNESS SPACE FOR THE HOTEL IS LOCATED.
UM, ONE OF THE BRAND ELEMENTS OF A HILTON TEMPO IS WELLNESS.
SO HILTON IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT CELEBRATING THE FITNESS ACTIVITY AND THE WELLNESS COMPONENT, UH, WITHIN THE HOTEL, AND THEY REALLY WANT TO AMPLIFY THAT PRESENCE OF THEIR BRAND ON THIS CORNER.
OTHER SUBTLE THINGS LIKE THE WINDOW PATTERNING ON THAT CORNER HAS CHANGED, UH, TO A VERTICAL, UH, POSITION IN A UNIQUE APPLICATION.
SO IT REALLY AMPLIFIES THE VERTICALITY OF THAT CORNER.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN, UH, HOSPITALITY IS HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE THE MECHANICAL UNITS OF GUEST ROOMS INTO THE FACADE OF A BUILDING AND NOT FEEL LIKE A BUNCH OF LOUVERS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO THAT ATTENTION HAS BEEN, UH, PAID THROUGHOUT THE, THE BUILDING.
BUT ON THIS CORNER THERE'S A PARTICULAR DETAIL IN THE PACKAGE AS WELL.
THERE'S A LIGHTING EFFECT, THERE'S BRICK PATTERN, UH, COMPONENTS, THE PROPORTIONALITY UP ON THE, ON THE TOP.
UH, IF WE REALLY ZOOMED IN, YOU'D SEE THERE'S THIS KIND OF BRICK PATTERNING AND SHAPING.
THERE'S A AN LED LIGHT THAT'S UP LIGHTING, CALL IT THE TOP HAT.
UH, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THE ART.
UM, THAT'S ONE THING THAT, UM, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER IMAGE IN HERE THAT SHOWS A COUPLE OF OUR OTHER, UH, HOTELS, UH, A MARRIOTT THAT WE JUST OPENED DOWN IN CINCINNATI.
UH, THE GRADUATE THAT'S DOWN IN THE SHORT NORTH HAS, UH, FULL HEIGHT MURALS ON EITHER SIDE.
AND WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT LIKE INTEGRATING ART AND ARCHITECTURE, UH, BECOMES A GREAT WAY TO ENHANCE THE IDENTITY OF YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE EVEN HAS SOME OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE AND EVOLVE, UH, OVER TIME.
SO THOSE ARE THE 10 THINGS, UH, THAT ARE PUT IN THERE.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN EXCITED ABOUT, AND THIS PROJECT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, BUT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS IN DUBLIN HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH.
UM, AND IN THAT THOROUGHNESS, WHAT HAPPENS IS BETTER DESIGN.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, UH, THAT PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY, UH, BE SUCCESSFUL AT THE END.
UM, AND I AM NOT GONNA BEAT THE BIKE RACK DEAD HORSE, SO I'LL JUST BE SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
UM, I'VE GOT A, A FEW QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS.
MAYBE ONE I WANNA START OFF WITH IS BACK TO THE, THE STREET, LONGSHORE STREET.
I'M, I, I'M LOST IN THE ITERATION OF LONGSHORE STREET.
SO THE FIRST, UM, PROPOSAL THAT CAME FOR US, IT WAS A CURBLESS AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE MR. CHINOOK WAS GETTING AT.
IT WAS MAKING IT ALMOST ALL PEDESTRIAN.
AND I THINK IT WAS EITHER THE CONCEPT PLAN OR THE LAST PLAN.
THERE WAS THE TABLETOP IN THE CENTER THAT CONNECTED THE TWO PARKS, AND NOW IT'S BEING REFERRED TO AS A WOUNDER AND MY MIND THAT IS A CURBLESS STREET, BUT ALL THE RENDERINGS AND STUFF LOOK LIKE IT STILL HAS A CURB.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A CLARIFICATION OF WHAT IS IT
IT IT IS, IT IS PER THE, THE PDP IS THE SAME.
SO IT IS, IT DOES COME UP IN A TABLETOP AND THE, THE INTENSITY OF THAT, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE CALLED THAT OF ONE EARTH AND POTENTIALLY STRETCHING THE, THE TRUE DEFINITION OF SUCH, BUT IT IS CURBLESS AND IT CONNECTS THE, THE, UM,
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PLAZA IN FRONT OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDING B THAT USED TO THE EAST WITH THE PARK ACROSS THE WAY.SO IT'S JUST THE CENTER PART THOUGH.
IT'S NOT THE WHOLE STREET, IT'S THE CENTER PART.
SO YOU GO UP, I WANNA SAY NO MORE THAN, NO MORE THAN THAT SIX INCHES OF THE CURB.
RIGHT? SO IT'S FLUSH ACROSS THE STREET AT THAT POINT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
AND THAT'S THE AREA BY WHICH WE, WE'VE INTERPRETED, AND I KNOW IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT THE VISION COULD HAVE BEEN IN YOUR EYES, AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'VE INTERPRETED REALLY TAKING THAT CLOSING IN THE MIDDLE AND REALLY CREATING THAT CONNECTIVITY EAST TO WEST.
SO YOU'RE TAKING THAT AND THAT ENTIRE AREA BECOMES PROGRAMMED.
NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN CERTAIN TIMES, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU DON'T EXTEND THAT OUT TO THE CURBS AND JUST DON'T LET ANYBODY THERE, UM, TO THE POINT OF THE GARAGE ACCESS ANYWAY.
SO HOLD THAT FOR A SECOND, I'M GONNA TURN BACK TO STAFF.
UM, I, I HAD AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY WAS NOT SUPPORTING THE TABLETOP BECAUSE OF THE, IS THAT FROM ENGINEERING WAS, UM, NOT ACCEPTING THAT? I BELIEVE SO.
HEIDI, DO YOU WANNA COME AND EXPLAIN THAT? I, I CAN TOUCH ON THAT.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY DISCUSSED THE TABLE TIE.
I THINK WE DISCUSSED HAVING IT LEVEL AS, UH, MR. CANTERBURY WAS ALLUDING TO, TO KINDA MAKE FOR THAT CONNECTIVITY WITHOUT HAVING TO RAISE IT AS A TABLETOP.
WE, WE'VE HAD THAT ISSUE COME UP ON ANOTHER STREET AND THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY FOLKS WERE, ARE A LITTLE HESITANT ABOUT THAT FROM A STREET MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT.
SO IT MAY NOT BE A TABLETOP, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET THE CONNECTIVITY WITHOUT COMING UP FROM STREET LEVEL UP TO SIDEWALK LEVEL.
YOU'VE GOT SIX INCHES THAT YOU'VE GOTTA MEDIATE SOMEHOW.
SO, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SLOPE THEN TO GET UP.
SO, AND THEN THERE IS, THERE ARE SLOPES ON EITHER SIDE AS I MENTIONED, AND, AND I'VE NOT, I'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH ENGINEERING SPECIFIC TO WATER MANAGEMENT.
UM, THERE'S A, A SINCERE AWARENESS OF THAT.
AND WE'VE NOT HEARD ANY PUSHBACK.
ON THE, ON THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK.
I OTHER ONES I UNDERSTAND AND, AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN, IN THE DRAWINGS, LIKE INDICATING RAMP UP, RAMP DOWN, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF THING.
BUT THAT IS, THAT'S APPLICANT'S INTENTION, UH, INTENTION AND CONSISTENT WITH THE DRAWINGS.
UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE, AND IF WE COULD PULL UP A PICTURE OF THAT.
SORRY, RTI, COULD YOU PULL UP A PICTURE OF THE CENTRAL PARK OPEN SPACE? SO IT, I'LL, I'LL TALK.
SO WHAT OCCURRED TO ME IS YOU HAVE THESE AMPHITHEATER STEPS COMING DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND THEY JUST COME DOWN.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THIS OUTDOOR, KIND OF LIKE INFORMAL FORMAL PERFORMANCE SPACE, BUT THERE'S NO STAGE, IF YOU WILL, THERE'S NO SPACE FOR THAT ACTIVITY TO HAPPEN UNLESS YOU JUST, YOU JUST SET IT UP ON THE, ON THE GRASS INFORMALLY.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT, IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THERE'S POWER, THERE'S MAYBE SOME LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO PROGRAM THE SPACE IT'S BUILT IN WITHOUT HAVING TO CLOSE DOWN LONGSHORE STREET TO DO IT.
LIKE YOUR RENDERING SHOWED THAT WE, WE AGREE ENTIRELY.
WHAT, WHAT IS, UH, PROBABLY NOT MADE THAT THE FINAL CUTTING BOARD YET, BUT IS, IS THE INTENTION IS IN THAT GREEN.
SO BETWEEN, UM, WHERE THE GREEN IS AND PROBABLY TOWARDS WHERE LONGSHORE GOES, WHERE THE CURBLESS, UM, ENCOUNTER IS, THERE'S INTENDED TO BE, UM, INGROUND POWER.
THERE'S INTENDED TO BE ON THE BRIDGE THAT GOES ACROSS THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE LIGHTS UNDERNEATH THAT.
THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED FOR THAT PURPOSE AS WELL.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROGRAM THAT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE ARE ALSO INCORPORATING POWER FOR HOLIDAYS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, EXPRESS THE HOLIDAYS DOWN THERE, INCLUDE SOME SORT OF TREE AND OR OTHER MARKER, UM, AS NEEDED.
BUT THE, THROUGHOUT THAT PLAZA, IN THAT CENTRAL AREA, UM, THE, THE PROPOSAL HAS A LOT OF REALLY NICE SORT OF LOW LEVEL LIGHTING AS WELL IN THE PHOTOMETRICS.
BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY A COUPLE OPPORTUNITIES YOU COULD SET UP, UM, IN THE PLAZA BY BUILDING B OR ZONE FIVE AND REALLY HAVE MORE GROUND SPACE BEFORE YOU AMPHITHEATER UP.
IF IT'S SOMETHING, A LARGER TYPE MUSICIAN OR A LARGER TYPE EVENT, YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE POWER THAT'S GONNA BE CLOSER TO THAT GREEN SPACE TO REALLY GET INTO THE, THE SEATS THAT ARE THERE.
SO YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT.
UM, I'M GONNA GO TO THE AMENITY DECK.
SO THE AMENITY DECK ON BUILDING A, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IS
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OPEN TO EVERYBODY.IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S THE WHOLE, YOUR WHOLE COMPONENT HERE.
SO EVERY, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEY GET TO, EVERYBODY CAN COME AROUND AND USE THAT.
UM, I, I, I, I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE LAST MEETING, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
THE, THE RAILING ALONG THE EDGE, UM, THAT INTERFACE, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS IN BRIDGE, BRIDGE PARK WHERE YOU HAVE THIS OUTDOOR AMENITY AREA AND IT, AND IT LITERALLY OVERLOOKS LONG TR STREET, WHICH IS WHERE TENTATIVELY EVERYBODY IS.
AND IT JUST, THE, THE RAILING THAT YOU'RE DOING IS JUST THIS FLAT RAILING ACROSS THE, I DUNNO HOW LONG THAT DIMENSION IS, BUT IT'S LONG.
AND I, THERE'S A, I WORRY ABOUT JUST THE ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN ON THAT AMENITY DECK INTERFACING WITH THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE STREET.
UM, THERE'S NO BARRIERS THAT ARE OTHER THAN, I MEAN, THE FENCE IS A SAFETY THING, RIGHT? SO YOU DON'T FALL OFF.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE WITH THAT EDGE.
UM, ONE, UM, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO DES I NOT WANT TO DESIGN IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S, YOU, YOU HAVE THE, THE GR THE GROUND LEVEL USES MM-HMM
RIGHT? THEY, THAT ARCHITECTURAL FACADE COULD COME UP AND INTEGRATE WITH THAT.
THAT EDGE IN A MUCH MORE DYNAMIC WAY.
UH, IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS THE PI COME UP AND BECOME PEERS THAT SUPPORT THE FENCE.
UM, THE OTHER COULD BE, IT COULD BE A SOLID WALL THAT IT, THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING JUST COMES UP AND IT'S A PARAPET THAT, THAT BASICALLY PROVIDES A SOLID BARRIER BETWEEN THE AMENITY DECK AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE STREET AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS AS PART OF THAT SOLID WALL.
AND THEN THERE'S THE SPACE, UH, ON, ON THE PULL DECK SIDE OF IT, THE RENDERING SHOWS LANDSCAPE, BUT THE DRAWINGS DON'T INDICATE ANY KIND OF DEPTH TO DO ANY KIND OF LANDSCAPING.
SO I ASSUME THE GREEN IS MAYBE LIKE FAKE GRASS.
SO THE ATTENTION AND, AND A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS THERE.
SO TRY TO, TRY TO WORK THROUGH 'EM HERE.
FIRST OFF, LET'S, LET'S MAYBE WORK FROM THE DECK OUT, UM, FROM THE DECK.
THE DECK IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SMALLER.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HOLD IT BACK AT LEAST 15 FEET OFF THAT EDGE.
SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY TIME WHERE WE WILL HAVE, UNLESS PEOPLE ARE BREAKING THE RULES, WHERE WE WILL HAVE, UM, USERS UP AGAINST THAT, THAT FENCE LINE THAT IS AT THE PARAPET.
SO THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS, SO THERE'S BE A BARRIER SAY THAT WILL, THERE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A LANDSCAPED BARRIER.
SO YES, THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPE AND THERE WILL BE, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING NEXT.
SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE THAT 15 FEET BACK.
THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF REASONS, NUMBER ONE, SAFETY, NUMBER TWO, SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE, BUT ALSO JUST FROM A CODE STANDPOINT, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER EXIT OFF OF THAT DECK IF WE HAVE TOO MUCH OCCUPIABLE SPACE.
SO YOU'LL FIND THAT SOMEWHAT PROPORTIONALLY IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 60% OCCUPIABLE SPACE AND 40% GREEN SPACE ON THAT DECK.
SO THERE WILL BE, DO YOU HAVE DEPTH TO ACTUALLY DO? WE DO.
WE'RE DOING A, UH, A PEDESTAL SYSTEM UP THERE.
UM, ADDITIONAL TO THAT, THE POOL ACTUALLY WILL HAVE A POOL EDGE THAT WILL PENETRATE UP THROUGH THAT AND HAVE SORT OF A RAISED DEFINED EDGE.
SO THE, MY, MY QUESTIONING HAS GOTTEN ME TO A POINT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE LIKE RE-LOOKING AT THAT WHOLE EDGE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT EDGE NEEDS TO BE STUDIED MORE? YES.
WE'RE COMMITTED TO LOOKING THAT WITH STAFF.
THEY, THE, THEY'RE, RIGHT NOW WHAT IT SHOWS IS A, A TRUE DEDICATION TO, TO A HARD, MODERN, HORIZONTAL EDGE ALONG THAT PARAPET THAT MEETS WHERE THE TOWERS HIT.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE KIND OF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, MARRIED OURSELVES TO UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME AS THAT DECK DEVELOPS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL STUDY.
I, AGAIN, I, I WAS, I HAD ISSUES WITH IT LAST TIME AND I, I KEEP LOOKING AT IT GOING, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT COULD BE DONE.
AND I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER THAT COMMENT AND I, LOOKING AT WHAT WE SUBMITTED, I'M LIKE, OH MAN, I THINK ONE GOT THROUGH THE, THE GOALIE THERE,
SO WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT THOUGH.
UM, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PARKING GARAGE ON THE PARKING GARAGE BLOCK.
HOW, HOW ARE YOU, UM, ADDRESSING THE GRADE CHANGE AS YOU COME DOWN FROM A, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA COME DOWN ACROSS FLOORS MM-HMM
ON THE PARK SIDE, YOU HAVE A WALKWAY.
I, THERE'S A WEIRD, AND THIS, THIS WAS A QUESTION I ASKED WAY BACK AT LIKE CONCEPT OR SOMETHING THAT IT WAS JUST AN UNRESOLVED, LIKE HOW, HOW DOES WALKWAYS AND PARKING GARAGE FLOORS, EDGES MEET? THIS HAS BEEN OUR GREATEST PUZZLE
UM, AND IT REALLY TRULY HAS BECAUSE THE, THE ACCESSIBLE ROUTE THROUGH THE PARK IS ACTUALLY GOING TO, UM, HEAD TOWARDS AT WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY AN UPPER ENTRANCE, UM, INTO THE GARAGE LOBBY NOW, ON THE, AND WHAT IS THE, AND FORGIVE ME 'CAUSE THE PLANE ALWAYS SITS THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER IS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE A MAJORITY OF THE PATRONS THAT ARE THERE FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES, UM, TO COME OUT.
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THAT IS OUR MAIN LOBBY.IT'S, IT'S SHOWN ARCHITECTURALLY MAIN VERTICALITY AT GROUND PLANE.
WE'VE INCREASED THE GLAZING SIGNIFICANTLY.
BUT ONE, ONE STORY UP IS WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN FROM THE PARK WILL ACTUALLY COME INTO.
AND THAT, THAT, AGAIN, HAS BEEN OPENED UP.
AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE STAIRS AND OR, UM, IF THEY'RE GOING THERE, IT'S LIKELY TO TAKE THE ELEVATOR DOWN ONE STORY.
BUT THAT CHALLENGE IN NAVIGATING 21 FEET OF GRADE, WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH WIDTH TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT, UM, OUR DEDICATION TO OPENNESS WOULD BE, WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY LOST IF WE HAD TO GET STEEPER THAN ONE TO 20.
SO THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE RAILING EVERYWHERE, AND SO THAT WE HAVE MINOR SWITCHBACKS TO AREAS OF INTERACTION WITHIN THAT PARK.
PURPOSEFULLY THE WAY TO DO IT IS TO TAKE UP AGAINST THE GARAGE.
THERE'S A WALKWAY THAT DOES SLOPED DOWN AND THEN SLOPED SLIGHTLY UP BACK TO THAT SECOND STORY ENTRY.
SO IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A HECK OF A HECK OF A PUZZLE.
SO MY, THE PART B TO MY QUESTION WAS COULD YOU MOVE THE WALKWAY AWAY FROM THE GARAGE AND ACTUALLY USE LANDSCAPE TO MITIGATE THAT INTERFACE? BECAUSE I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT YOU'VE, THE GARAGE WRAPS INTO THE PARK AND IT'S KIND OF AN NOT AN ACTIVE EDGE.
AND, AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR TREATMENT OF THE GARAGE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT
WE WERE TRYING TO SOLVE THAT WITH, WITH THE GREEN WALL AND WRAP THAT AROUND TO GIVE THAT THE BASE.
SO THAT WRAPS AROUND, THAT DOES WRAP AROUND THE, THE WRAPS OUTSIDE OF THE GARAGE.
SO THE IDEA BEING THAT THAT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE, THOSE THOSE ARTISTIC PANELS COMING DOWN.
UM, NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TOUCHED OR FELT, BUT THAT BASE DOES WRAP.
I'M SORRY IF THAT WASN'T CLEAR.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T READ THAT IN THE DRAWING.
SO I WAS, I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT TYPE OF, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS A, I LOOKED ACROSS AT OUR, OUR FELLOW STAFF MEMBERS.
I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH, A MONTH OLD AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MAYBE.
SO THOSE, UH, THOSE CORNERS WERE CHANGED AND THEN THE GREEN WALL HAS WRAPPED AROUND.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE, BELIEVE ME, TO ABSORB.
THERE'S, THERE'S A, A LOT OF, A LOT OF, I'M SURPRISED AS HOW THICK THE SET GETS AT A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, SEVEN BUILDINGS REALLY.
SO THAT'S OKAY, PART C TO MY QUESTION.
UM, THE GREEN SCREEN ON MOONEY STREET MM-HMM
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE THERE FOR A, FOR PLANTS TO GROW.
I DON'T, I, I, AGAIN, THAT THE SCALE, YOU KNOW, I MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD HELP JUST YEAH.
AND EFFIE, JUST EFFIE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO I DON'T GET THAT WRONG, IS THAT, DO WE HAVE A FULL FIVE FEET ON MOONIE? YEAH, THERE'S FIVE FEET BETWEEN THE WALK AND THAT OF THE SCREEN.
AND, AND IS THAT IRRIGATED? IT WILL BE, YES.
SO THOUGH WE'LL GET WATER AND, OKAY.
UM, ON THE SERVICE AREAS, YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST TWO, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, AND YOU'RE, THOSE ARE BEING PAVED IN BRICK, UM, WHICH I ASSUME IS A HEAVY DUTY BRICK.
IT'S, UH, IT GETS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S OUT THERE IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND SOME OF THE OTHERS, AND ON DIFFERENT BLOCKS, THEY DO HAVE THAT SAME PAVER BRICK THAT TURNS IN THOSE DRIVES AS THEY ACCESS THE DOOR.
AND IF YOU GO OUT AND LOOK AT THOSE AREAS, THE BRICK'S ALL BREAKING UP BECAUSE OF, I MEAN, THEY'RE SLIDING, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S STUFF IN AND OUT OF THERE ALL THE TIME.
AND IT'S JUST, ANYWAY, I, I THINK THAT'S IT JUST GONNA BE A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD AND WHETHER THERE'S A BETTER MATERIAL TO YEAH.
TO USE WOULD, WOULD STAFF BE AVAILABLE TO US EXPLORING OTHER MATERIALS THERE? I DO THINK THAT WHAT WE'VE TAKEN IS REALLY WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW BASED UPON THE STANDARDS AND YEAH.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD SUGGEST OR IF YOU HAVE, WE HAVE A ARCHITECTURAL CONSULTANT WHO WORKS WITH US, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THAT AND PROVIDE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND IT COULD BE CLOSER TO WHAT WE HAVE IN THE DISTRICT SO THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT COHESIVENESS AS WELL.
I DO BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY SOME OF THAT AND WE WILL STUDY THIS AND AMY WILL WANNA LOOK AT IT.
SOME OF IT MAY REALLY BE SOME OF THE SUB-BASE, SOME OF THE COMPACTION OF THOSE, OBVIOUSLY THE CONSISTENCY OF THE TRAFFIC.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A, A DEDICATION WITHIN THE CODE TO MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE, ARE MINIMAL, THOSE TRASH AREAS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM POTENTIAL, UH, POTENTIAL TENANTS AS TO WHERE DO I HAVE TO TAKE MY TRASH
IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE AS A PROFESSIONAL.
I WALK AROUND AREAS AND GO, HOW COULD WE HAVE DONE THIS BETTER? RIGHT.
SO I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM SOME OF THE LESSONS THERE, JUST NOT REPEAT WHAT'S THERE, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS DONE, BUT MAYBE DID IT WORK AND IT DID NOT WORK? SO I THINK IF THERE'S AN ACCEPTANCE FOR A DEPARTURE, THEN WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO STUDY IT.
'CAUSE I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO REPLACE THINGS ALL THE TIME AS WELL.
AND FINAL, UM, QUESTION WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT
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THE LIGHTING OF THE TEMPO, NEW ELEMENT.UM, SOME OF THE RENDERINGS SHOWED SOME LIGHTING.
UH, I THINK MR. MARIO, YOU IDENTIFIED THERE'S A WHOLE LIGHTING PIECE TO IT, AND I THINK, UM, I AGREE WITH STAFF THAT IT STILL NEEDS SOME MORE WORK.
I MEAN, IT OBVIOUSLY IS A, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, A REALLY DYNAMIC LIGHTING STRATEGY FOR THAT AT LEAST AT NIGHT, COULD REALLY MAKE THAT.
I JUST, I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE BACKLIGHTING THE ART.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME LIGHTING AROUND THE, YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU WERE DOING WITH LIGHTING AND I MEAN, LIGHTING, LIGHTING REALLY IS THE CRITICAL PIECE.
UM, WE ACTUALLY, THERE WAS, I THOUGHT AN EVENING RENDERING.
I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE, WE COULD CERTAINLY SHARE THAT.
THERE'S, THERE'S LANDSCAPE LIGHTING, HALO LIGHTING AT SOME OF THE WINDOW ACCENTS, AND THEN THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S AN LED UH, WASH THAT HAPPENS WHERE THE BRICK DETAILING OCCURS, AND THEN THERE'S A, ANOTHER HALO LIGHT AT THE, AT THE LID.
BUT THAT LIGHTING ISN'T JUST ISOLATED AT THE CORNER.
IT SORT OF CARRIES THROUGH, UH, AND KIND OF BLENDS TO OTHER LIGHTING ELEMENTS, UH, OVER THE REST OF THE FACADE.
SO WE, WE HAVE LIGHTING DESIGNERS INVOLVED.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A VERY CRITICAL PIECE.
IT'S A, IT'S A HILTON REQUIREMENT ALSO.
SO, UM, WE CAN SHARE THOSE RENDERINGS, UH, EASILY.
AND I'M SURE YOU'LL, YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WANT TO HELP.
JUST PUMP, PUMP IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I, IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT THE LIGHTING WAS A REAL CRITICAL THING AND I DIDN'T REALLY, I MEAN, YOU COULD SEE IT LIKE, LIKE IN SOME OF THEM, LIKE YOU'D SEE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHTING, BUT IT, I DON'T SEE LIKE A NIGHT VIEW WITH IT.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT? YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT MADE IT ONE, ONE.
IT'S INTERESTING YOU SAID THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ASKED MY STAFF TO DO IS, IS ALL OF OUR RENDERINGS NOW HAVE TO BE A DAY SCENE, A NIGHT SCENE, AND A WINTER SCENE BECAUSE THE WORLD ISN'T AS PRETTY AS WE ALWAYS SHOW IT.
AND SO WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE.
SO WE'LL SHARE THOSE AS SOON AS WE CAN.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA LOOK BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANY, I HAVE ONE MORE.
SO, FINAL QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS, ALONG THIS JOURNEY WITH YOU WHEN MADE COMMENTS, AND ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN THIS UNIQUE SPACE, HOW CAN THIS BE SPECIAL? CAN YOU JUST, AS WE CONTEMPLATE APPROVAL HERE, CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ENLIGHTEN US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S AT BRIDGE PARK NOW? 'CAUSE WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SAMENESS, MORE THE SAME, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE HOPING TO, I WAS HOPING TO SEE AREN'T NECESSARILY HERE, WHICH WE'VE ADDRESSED.
BUT CAN YOU JUST AS WE, AGAIN, AS WE THINK THROUGH THIS, HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT IN YOUR MIND? YEAH, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I STARTED WITH, RIGHT? THAT WAS THE BIG QUESTION IS, IS HOW DO, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT THE SAME? BUT IT'S DIFFERENT.
I, I BELIEVE THE ENTIRE DISTRICT BENEFITS OFF THE FACT THAT, UM, THIS ISN'T BRIDGE NORTH AND THERE'S NOT BRIDGE PARK AND THERE'S NOT EAST BRIDGE, UH, EAST BRIDGE PARK OR WESTBRIDGE PARK.
IF SOMEONE'S HERE, THEY'RE IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, WHETHER THEY, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, THEY, THEY EXPERIENCE IT ALL AS THE SAME.
SO DIFFERENT HAS TO BE DONE IN ITS SUBTLETIES.
DIFFERENT HAS TO BE DONE AS EXPERIENCE.
UM, UH, OUR, OUR PARTNERS HAVE DONE OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB, UH, PROGRAMMING.
UM, WHETHER IT'S FOR FEST, WHETHER IT'S THE, UM, UH, THE, UH, YES, THANK YOU
SO WHE WHETHER WE GET INTO THE PARK, ACROSS THE STREET FOR FEST, YOU GET INTO THE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET.
THERE WE GO, UH, WITH THE MARKET.
SO I THINK DOING IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT PROGRAMMING IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEKING, AS I MENTIONED, CERTAINLY SOME ACOUSTIC MUSIC NIGHTS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMMING OF, YOU KNOW, MOVIE NIGHTS.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT THAT'S UNIQUE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO REALLY JOIN WITH EVERYBODY.
UM, FOR, UM, FOR THE HOLIDAYS, UM, WE'VE TALKED TO EXPERIENCE DUBLIN ABOUT WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THIS DRAW WAYS TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH BOTH SIDES AND MAKE THIS A WHOLE DISTRICT.
SO HOW IS IT DIFFERENT? YOU KNOW, THE, THE CODES THE ARCHITECTURE ARE, ARE PRESCRIPTIVE TO THE POINT THAT IT CAN'T BE A VAST DEPARTURE.
I DO THINK THE LITTLE SUBTLE MOVES THAT ARE ACTUALLY THE CONFLICT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
HOW DID YOU SOLVE FOR THIS? HOW DID YOU DO THAT? THE 21 FEET OF THE CENTRAL PARK IS DIFFERENT.
UM, I SPENT A DECENT AMOUNT OF MY CAREER WORKING ON LIFESTYLE CENTERS AT EASTON TOWN CENTER.
SO ONCE YOU GET SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T IN A POCKET PARK, BUT IN SOMETHING THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANCE, WHERE MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE TO CROSS RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO GET TO THE, THE GRAND PARK OVERLOOKING THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE BRIDGE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO.
THEY HAVE A PLACE OF RESPITE, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE A DRINK AND COFFEE WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
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WILL BE AN ANCHOR TO THIS.AND I THINK IT'S GONNA ACTUALLY DRAW PEOPLE ACROSS, UM, JOHN SHIELDS.
I MEAN, WE'RE, HELL WE'RE BETTING ON IT.
UM, BUT THEN ALSO THE DIFFERENT LIVING EXPERIENCES FOR THE RESIDENTS.
I THINK THOSE ARE INTERESTING TURNING, UM, AS COMMISSIONER WE SAID ONTO LONGSHORE, THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT, I BELIEVE THAT TO BE A BOLD MOVE.
UM, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF THE ARCHITECTURE WITH THAT.
RIGHT? UM, WE DO, YOU KNOW, BRIDGE PARK DOES TURN THEIR AMENITY DECK THAT HAS A POOL ONTO MORE OF A SIDE ROAD VERSUS THAT OF A MAIN ROAD.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE KEEPING, WE'RE KEEPING THE SAME DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE.
WE HIRED THE SAME STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT DID THE OTHER ONES WHERE IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME.
WE'RE GOT THAT PASSAGEWAY, THE OVERTOP.
UM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT WHEN WE REALLY START TO LOOK AT THIS AND THE QUALITY OF IT.
UM, NOT TO MENTION THAT IN A LOT OF WAYS ALONG RIVERSIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO SEVEN TO EIGHT YEARS NEWER, YOU START TO THINK ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OF THAT DISTRICT AND WHAT IT IS.
I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE SEEING THAT IN THE RESPONSES FROM NATIONAL LEVEL, FOOD AND BEVERAGE RETAILERS, SOFT GOODS.
UM, TUTTLE NOT FUNCTIONING AS WELL ANYMORE.
I THINK THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE SOFT GOODS WITHIN THIS DISTRICT, WHICH I THINK WILL ALSO BE A DRAW.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY UP HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY REACHING OUT.
'CAUSE BRIDGE, BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, BRIDGE PARK, IT'S ON THE MAP NATIONALLY.
YOU GO TO THESE CONVENTIONS, YOU TALK TO THESE USERS, EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
THE JOB THAT, THAT THE COLLECTIVE WHOLE OF DUBLIN HAS DONE IS TREMENDOUS.
UM, I SAT 25 YEARS AGO, 22 YEARS AGO, MAYBE, AM I THAT OLD? I THINK I AM 22 YEARS AGO WHEN THE ORIGINAL STUDIES OF THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND LOOKING THE RELOCATION OF 33 ALL THE WAY UP TO SAWMILL, JUST WITH MY, MY MOUTH OPEN GOING, HOW IN THE WORLD IS THIS GONNA HAPPEN TO BE, TO BE PART OF A PIECE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, 20 SOME YEARS LATER AND, AND CREATE THE, THE SAME SUCCESS BUT SUBTLE DIFFERENCES TO, TO HOPEFULLY SEPARATE.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS EXPERIENCE.
I WAS JUST GONNA ASK TOO, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, ALL THE MATERIALS, UH, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB PUTTING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I ALSO THINK ABOUT, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT PUT IT TOGETHER.
WILL THEY BE CERTIFIED AND IS IT DIFFICULT TO FIND THEM NOW? IS THAT A HARD TRADE? AND TO MAKE SURE IT'S PROPERLY PUT TOGETHER? AND THANK YOU.
UM, I DO THINK THAT THE MATERIALITY IN THESE BUILDINGS, FOR THE MOST PART ARE THINGS THAT THIS, THIS LABOR STAFF IN THIS MARKET ARE USED TO.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT MOVES.
UM, SOME OF THE METAL SIDING, UM, THERE ARE, IT'S A LITTLE LESS, UM, THERE ARE LESS MATERIALS THAT WE CAN CHOOSE FROM.
THERE'S LESS MANUFACTURERS AND SOME OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN THINGS.
THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE OUR TOUGHEST THING THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY AND PROUD TO NOT ONLY BE 43 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO CONSTRUCTION, GENERAL CONTRACTING.
SO WE HAPPEN TO BE THE OWNER AND THE BUILDER HERE.
UM, SO IT, IT'S OF, OF HUGE INTEREST OF OURS TO MAKE IT WORK.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY PRODUCT THAT I SEE UP HERE.
THE MILLENNIAL TILE AND THAT OF THAT TYPE OF METAL TILE.
THAT IS PROBABLY, UM, HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MANUFACTURERS TO IT.
THAT SAID, IT'S A RAIN SCREEN SYSTEM THAT'S PRETTY TRADITIONAL.
WE KNOW HOW TO WATERPROOF THAT.
WE KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE BACK OF IT.
UM, WE HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM STAFF AND FROM BRIDGE PARK AND SOME LESSONS IN TERMS OF THE, THE TYPE OF STONE THAT'S ACTUALLY USED ON THE BASE THAT IS NOT AGING AS WELL.
WE'VE CHANGED THAT AND MODIFIED SO THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE DURABLE THERE.
UM, BUT, AND NOTHING IN CONSTRUCTION'S EASY, BUT THE, THE, THE COLLECTIVE HOLE, THE MATERIALS ARE PRETTY TRADITIONAL FOR THIS REGION.
UM, AND I'M GONNA OPEN THE MEETING UP NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, UH, APPLICATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE DIOCESE.
WELL, I'M GOING TO THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA GO INTO STAFF OUR, OUR COMMISSION DELIBERATION NOW.
SO, MR. GARVIN, YOU WANNA START US OFF? SURE.
UM, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE SCREENING FOR THE POOL AREA.
I THINK THAT'S RELEVANT AND SOMETHING I DIDN'T, UH, NOTICE RIGHT AWAY ON THIS.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WE'RE A LITTLE CHINTZY, IN MY OPINION, ON THE OPEN SPACE.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF PROJECT AND DESIGN, I LIKE IT.
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I WILL MENTION, I KNOW YOU GUYS PUT AN EMPHASIS ON CONSISTENCY WITH THE REST OF BRIDGE PARK.WHEN I LOOK AT THE OTHER, UH, TEMPO HOTELS THAT YOU HAD UP THERE, I THOUGHT THAT THE NASHVILLE LOCATION MADE A REAL STATEMENT ON THAT CORNER RELATIVE TO THE LOUISVILLE LOCATION, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY FIT MORE WITH BRIDGE PARK.
I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ON CONSISTENCY AND NOT OVERWHELMING IT THOUGH.
UM, I, I'D SAY I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE DEPARTURES IN PARTICULAR.
YES, I'M, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, I THINK YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY.
I CAN TELL YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF, UH, AND, UM, I SEE THAT FLOW STILL GOING.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE QUITE IMPORTANT.
I, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, KEEP IN CONTACT WITH THE GRAND AND THE OTHERS AROUND YOU, UM, THE VETERINARIAN'S OFFICE AND SO FORTH.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT WITH THE CHANGE.
AND, AND, UH, AND THEN, UM, UM, I ALSO LOVE THE IDEA THAT, UM, THAT, THAT YOU CAN, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND AND YOU'RE ON TWO 70, THERE'S TIMES WHERE YOU CAN LOOK DOWN AND SEE THE GRAND.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS AND THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO INTRIGUE PEOPLE TO STOP IN AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE AND WANNA SPEND THE NIGHT.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GOOD THINGS, UM, FOR THE AREA AND, UM, THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
I, I AM, I'M GOOD WITH THE PARKING LOT.
UM, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN WHAT KIND OF MESH YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, PARKING GARAGE AND THE DURABILITY OF THAT.
AND SO I'M SURE YOU'LL WORK WITH, WITH STAFF ON THAT, UM, AS WELL TOO.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PUBLIC SPACE TO ME IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UM, SO I HOPE YOU AND THIS AND STAFF VERY MUCH, UH, KEEP REVISITING THOSE ISSUES TO MAKE IT ALL WORK.
YOU, YOU WERE, YOUR PRESENTATION, YOUR PASSION FOR THIS IS OBVIOUSLY VERY CLEAR AND THE THOROUGHNESS OF THE PRESENTATION FROM YOUR WHOLE GROUP, I MEAN, IT'S, UM, UH, OBVIOUSLY HOURS AND HOURS OF, OF WORK.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMFORT KNOWING THAT HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND THAT IT'S GONNA BE, WE ALL, I KNOW IT'S CLEAR THERE'S GONNA BE A GREAT, A, A, A GREAT SPACE IN THE END.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE GRILLED YOU WITH QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS I MADE IT CLEAR A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, HOPE, HOPING IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE ANSWERED OUR QUESTIONS AND, UM, I, I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
KIM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU THOUGH.
SO CAN THAT YOUR POINT ON THE, THE TABLE ON THAT ROAD, AGAIN, I'M SO HUNG UP ON THIS, I'M SORRY.
BUT LIKE THAT, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE THE HEART OF THIS WHOLE THING.
IF THAT CAN'T, CAN WE PUT THAT AS A CONDITION? I MEAN, I KNOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? LET'S GO.
WE DIDN'T CONCLUDE WITH STAFF.
UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE STANCE ON THE TABLETOP? SO AS CURRENTLY SUBMITTED, WE UNDERSTAND THAT CURRENTLY IT'S NOT A TABLETOP WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
UM, AS BASSEN MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE TABLETOP WAS PROPOSED AND OUR DEPARTMENT WAS NOT VERY COMFORTABLE IN THAT SCENARIO.
UM, HOWEVER, I AM NOT TOO COMFORTABLE TO SAY RIGHT NOW THAT HOW ARE, UM, IN CONCLUSION, WOULD THAT BE, IF SHOULD, IS THAT BEING PROPOSED WITH THAT, UM, REFINED DRAWINGS? PA IF YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? YEAH, I, I THINK IT PROBABLY MAY BE THE SEMANTICS OF WHAT A TABLETOP IS.
I THINK WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE, I MEAN TO, TO ME, A TABLETOP IS A LITTLE MORE LIMITED, BUT IF THIS IS PANNING THAT WHOLE LENGTH AND THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS AND NOT, UM, BE IN CONFLICT WITH, UH, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF EVERYBODY.
SO WE'RE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE, THE TERMINOLOGY, BUT THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE.
AGAIN, TO ME, IT'S JUST A REALLY BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AND I THINK IT, IT WOULD HELP IT TREMENDOUSLY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE JUST THAT CONNECTIVITY FROM BUILDING V THAT WHOLE PARK.
AND AGAIN, IF WE DO YOU PROGRAMMATICALLY, YOU CAN SHUT THAT DOWN.
IT BECOMES JUST A NICE, WALKABLE AREA.
THAT'S THE THINGS THAT I THINK CAN REALLY MAKE IT UNIQUE AND SPECIAL.
SO I DON'T, I'D LOVE TO PUT THAT CONDITION IN HERE.
YOU CAN ADD THAT CONDITION IN.
IF, IF I, I'M JUST, FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT'S FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT'S CONNECTED THROUGH.
I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, WHICH YOU MEAN, LIKE, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE A CURB CUT.
WHEN WE SAY A TABLETOP, YOU MEAN SHOULD BE RAISED VERSUS IT'S, IT'S FLUSH FROM CURB FROM SIDEWALK TO THE OTHER.
IT'S WHEN IS THAT HOW WHEN KIDS ARE RUNNING DOWN THE HILL, ACROSS THE ZONE, THE OTHER BUILDING, THEY'RE NOT TRIPPING ON THE CURB, BUT DO SKATEBOARD.
SO A DRIVER ALONG LARGE SHORE WOULD BE DOING THIS, WHICH IS NOT BAD.
I DON'T, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.
A DRIVE, A DRIVER FROM THE DRIVER'S PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE GOING UP AND IT'D BE A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE IN EFFECT.
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YES.BUT YOU CAN ALSO DO THEM AT A SLOPE, LIKE A VERY GENTLE, IT JUST HAS A LONG TAPER TO IT, BUT RIGHT.
SO WHAT TRAFFIC FOLKS DON'T LIKE IS WHEN IT'S VERY SHORT AND YOU GO B YOU KNOW, LIKE, AND IT, YOU KNOW, BUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IMAGE IN MY HEAD.
I I DON'T, WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M NOT CRITIQUING IT EITHER WAY.
BUT BASSAM IS THAT, IS THAT KIND OF THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE IS, IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS COMFORTABLE? YEAH.
AND I THINK MR. CANTERBURY HAS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THERE.
IF, FIRST OFF, IF IT'S A CONDITION, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE WE HAVE IT IN THERE.
AND I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU REAL QUICK, UM, ON THE FDP RATI, IF YOU COULD, IT'S THE, UH, SIX OF 21 CIVIL SHEET.
IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT SEVEN SHEETS INTO THE PACKET.
IT'S AT ABOUT AN 80 FOOT LONG EXPRESSION WITH 15 FEET OF STEP DOWN.
SO IT DOES, IT IS FLAT ACROSS FROM EAST TO WEST.
AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE IT HERE IF WE COULD ZOOM IN ON THE CENTER THERE.
AND, AND WHAT THIS DOESN'T HIGHLIGHT IS WHERE'S THE, WHAT, WHERE'S THE TRANSITION? WHERE DOES IT START AT STREET LEVEL AND WHERE DOES IT END AT TABLETOP AT? SO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CROSS SECTION.
YEAH, THERE'S PROBABLY ONE IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
AND WE IS MY GUESS YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN CLARIFY THAT.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PARALLEL PARKING STOPS, THAT'S WHERE THE, THE SLOPE UP BEGINS.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S A PROBABLY A SLOPE, THE LENGTH OF THE PLANTER MAYBE.
DO YOU SEE WHERE THE 22 FOOT CROSS DIMENSION IS? YEAH.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PLANTER WHERE THE PARALLEL STOPS BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PAVER WALKWAY, THAT IS THE TRANSITION AREA.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 60 FEET IN THE MIDDLE THERE THAT, THAT COMBINES THOSE TWO.
SO, SO IT'S CLEAR BETWEEN PLANTER AND PLANTER? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO IF YOU'RE TO CONDITION THAT, I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH IT BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE, WE DO HAVE THAT REPRESENTED HERE.
I I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT THEY'RE, WELL, THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT AND THAT WE'RE APPROVING, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH.
SO WE DON'T NEED A CONDITION FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT'S THEIR INTENTION.
AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
THANK YOU, MR. UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK AND I, I LIKE THE PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, DOUBLE YOUR COMPLIMENT OF OUR STAFF.
WE THINK OUR STAFF IS FABULOUS AND IT'S SO GOOD TO HEAR IT FROM YOU
SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE LEARNING FROM THEM AND WORKING WITH THEM.
IT'S REALLY NICE TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE GETTING A GOOD BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE PROJECT LEADERS.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS BE COMPLETELY BUILT.
I TOO, I JUST AS A SLIGHT ASIDE TOO, HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ACTIVATED.
I VERY MUCH LIKE YOUR IDEA OF PROGRAMMING THAT WILL BRING IN PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF DUBLIN.
UM, MAYBE ANOTHER, UM, CLARIFICATION FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, BASSAM, IS IT, UM, IS THE CITY UNDERGOING A DESIGN FOR RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK THAT WOULD ENHANCE IT FROM WHAT IT IS TODAY? YEAH, THERE, THERE'S A, THEY'RE WORKING ON A MASTER PLAN FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER, AND THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE ALSO FOR SECURITY REASONS.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE CROSSWALKS, I THINK THOSE WILL ALSO, UH, UH, AS SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE, EVENTUALLY JOHN CHEESE PARKWAY WILL EXTEND ACROSS THE RIVER, SO THAT CORNER BECOMES EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.
THE CROSSWALKS BECOME MORE IMPORTANT.
SO THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE TO ALSO ENHANCE THAT.
BUT YES, THE MASSIVE PLAN IS SO UNDERWAY.
SO WHEN WE'RE INCLUDING THAT OPEN SPACE AS PART OF THE OPEN SWITCH, IT'S NOT JUST WHAT'S THERE TODAY, BUT IT'S POTENTIALLY AN ENHANCED OPEN SPACE IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD AGAIN, SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
SO, UM, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, UM, PROJECT.
I HAVE BEEN ALL ALONG AND IT'S GREAT TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO, UH, THE FINAL LINE FINISH LINE, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET.
I, I THINK, UH, DO WE NEED TO ADD ANY CONDITIONS IN REGARD TO THE, THE POOL DECK, THE AMENITY DECK EDGE? OR IS THAT JUST, IS THAT ALREADY INCLUDED IN, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN THE CONDITIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO THERE IS NOTHING INCLUDING THAT SPECIFIC TO THE EDGE.
SO IF YOU FEEL COMFORT, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS COMFORTABLE, WE CAN SORT IN THE ADD A CONDITION.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE APPLICANT IS WORKING ON IT AND CHANGING IT, THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO REVIEW.
AND SO IS THAT A FAIR CONDITION? OKAY.
I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BEING A CONDITION.
AND THE, AND THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE'RE TALKING THE FACADE EDGE.
I THINK THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT.
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THE, UH, ISSUE, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SERVICE AREA PAVING.DO WE NEED THAT AS A CONDITION, WORK WITH STAFF TO, UM, REVIEW OPTIONAL MATERIAL, MORE DURABLE MATERIALS FOR THE SERVICE AREAS? I'M NOT TRYING TO WRITE IT FOR YOU.
I MEAN, IF, IF THAT'S BEING ADDED, I WOULD SUGGEST MATERIAL OR, OR PROPER INSTALLATION.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE INVESTIGATION IS WHETHER OH, WHETHER THEY WERE PROPERLY INSTALLED.
BUT AGAIN, I, AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
JUST, IT WAS ACTUALLY JUST INFORMED THAT THERE IS A, THERE IS A PRECEDENT OF THEM STARTING TO BE CHANGED OUT TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PAVER THAT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED THAN AS A GRANITE PAVER THAT IS MORE DURABLE.
SO I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A PRECEDENT THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH AS WELL.
IT MAY BE AN INSTALLATION ISSUE.
SO IF THAT CAN JUST BE REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED.
SO THAT'S GONNA ADD ANOTHER CONDITION.
CAN WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, MOVE THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPART, ALL OF THOSE APPROVALS FIRST? OR SHOULD WE HAVE BEFORE WE COME TO THE CONDITIONS? UH OH, MAYBE I'VE GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF, SO THANK YOU MR. BOX FOR GIVING ME THAT LOOK.
SO AS WE'RE WORKING ON ADDING THOSE, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE OTHERS? I YOU CAN, WE VOTE ON THE PARKING PLAN AND THE WAIVERS AND ALL THAT.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PARKING PLAN.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE PARKING PLAN.
I'M GONNA ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURE.
MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES.
SO IS NOW WHEN WE NEED TO EDIT IN OR DO WE GO FOR THE WAIVERS AS WELL? AND DON'T WE ADD IT IN AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN? ACCEPTANCE.
I'M SORRY, WE'RE ADDING THE CONDITIONS TO THE, THE NEXT PIECE.
SO WE'VE JUST APPROVED THE WAIVERS.
YOU ADMINISTER, YOU JUST APPROVED.
NO, WE APPROVED THE DEPARTURES.
WAIT, THERE ARE TOO MANY PAGES HERE.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING 43 WAIVERS.
I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE 43 WAIVERS.
AND NOW WE HAVE OUR CONDITIONS, IT'S ADDED ON NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE.
DO, DO WE WANT TO ADD THE PAPER MATERIAL AT THE LOADING DOCKS SPECIFICALLY? AND ALSO WHILE YOU HAVE IT DOWN, IT SAYS WEST FACADE.
DOES THAT REFER TO JUST THE BUILDING? 'CAUSE IT WAS MORE THE LANDSCAPING AND THE FENCING AROUND THE OPEN SPACE OR THE AMENITY DECK? IS THAT WHAT I THINK IT SHOULD SAY? THE, THE WEST FACADE AND AN EDGE OF THE AMENITY DECK.
SOMETHING SOMETIMES SOMEHOW FACADE TO ME MEANS THE ACTUAL BUILDING OTHER THAN THE, AND SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? YOU WANTED TO BE ADDED NEXT TO THE PAPER MATERIAL? THE LOADING DOCK PAVERS IS WHAT,
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IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? HE WANTED IT TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE LOADING DOCK.YOU WEREN'T, YOU JUST SAID IT, IT WASN'T SPECIFIC TO THAT AREA.
THIS IS WHEN CITY STAFF REALLY SHINES WHEN THEY HAVE TO WRITE LANGUAGE ON THE FLY.
UH, I WOULD NOT NEAR LOADING DOCK AT THE LOADING DOCK.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S AT A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN THE LOADING DOCK.
IT SHOULD SAY AT LOADING DOCK AS OPPOSED TO NEAR LOADING DOCK.
DOCKS, WHAT ALL DOCKS SHOULD, SHOULD BE DOCKS PLURAL, RIGHT? LOADING DOCKS.
UM, APPLICANT, DOES THAT LOOK ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS? ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS ACTUALLY ON THE WEST SIDE, LIKE IT'S, I THINK IT, I THINK THE AMEN DECK REFERENCE REFERENCES IT.
I AM GONNA LOOK, UH, ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE FOLLOWING 21 CONDITIONS.
LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROJECT AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
IF YOU COULD, IF ALL OF THE FOLKS FROM THE PRE PREVIOUS APPLICATION COULD MOVE OUT INTO THE HALLWAY AND MOVE AWAY FROM THE DOORS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
WOULD SOMEBODY GET MR.
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OKAY.WELL, MR. ALEXANDRA TAKES HIS SEAT.
WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER 26 DASH TWO EIGHT FDP MONTEREY VILLAGE, REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THE 6.86 ACRE SITE IS OWNED B-S-D-H-T-N BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT HISTORIC TRANSITION NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IS LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF MONTEREY DRIVE, SOUTH OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH WESTBRIDGE STREET.
I'M GONNA WELCOME THE APPLICANT TO THE DIETS TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR HAVING US.
UM, WE ARE EXCITED TO BE TO THIS POINT WITH YOU, I'M SURE AS BASSAM IS LAID OUT IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UH, UH, PERSONALLY, WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, FINISH OUR
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FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? GOOD START.
UH, TYLER POOLE, UH, UH, 25 36 WEST LANE AVENUE, UPPER ARLINGTON.
UM, SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUR APPROVAL FOR OUR, UM, UH, FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE, UM, KNOWLEDGE THAT WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR SOME SHARPENING OF, UM, SOME INFRASTRUCTURE LANDSCAPING AND SOME OF THE CONDITIONS IN HERE AS BASS.
WE FEEL THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, A GAME CHANGING RETAIL PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THREE 15, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, GREAT OFFICE SPACE ACCOMPANYING IT.
WE'VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT TIME AND ENERGY INTO THIS, UH, IN USING ALL OF OUR RESOURCES AND WHAT OUR COMPANY HAS DONE IN BUILDING THE SHORT NORTH OVER THE LAST 44 YEARS AND BRINGING THAT HERE AND USING SOME OF THOSE URBAN LESSONS.
AND ONE OF OUR REASONINGS FOR WANTING TO BUY THIS SITE IS THAT OUR ISSUE IN THE SHORT NORTH IS THAT WE'RE NOT OUR OWN NEIGHBOR EVERYWHERE.
SO WE ARE EXCITED TO START THIS PROJECT WITH, UH, THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND BASSAM HAS BEEN A TRUE PARTNER TO, UH, ME, DEREK, MARK, CONNOR, AND ABBY, JUST ALL OF OUR STAFF AND CONSULTANTS HERE.
SO WE'RE EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR THAT EFFORTS THROUGHOUT, I KNOW HOW TO DO.
SO ONE THING IS THAT I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE PDP AND I THOUGHT THAT I SPOKE FOR WAY TOO LONG AT THE BEGINNING.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO QUICK, BASSAM'S GONNA LAY IT OUT, AND THEN I WILL ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU GUYS HAVE.
SO OUR MAJOR CHANGES, UM, WE'VE INCREASED THE SIZE OF THESE, UH, TOWN SQUARE, UH, BY 12.5%.
UM, AND PART OF THE REASON FOR DOING THAT IS BULLET 0.4 OF, UH, AN AFFILIATE OF OURS HAS BOUGHT THE QUILT SHOP AT 48 CORBIN'S MILL.
UH, THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO PUSH OUR SITE TO THE WEST, UM, AND HAVE SOME ADDIT ADDITIONAL PARKING THERE.
UM, AND IT ALLOWS FOR CARS TO GET OFF OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UH, UH, ALONG CORBIN'S MILL.
SO THERE AREN'T CAR LIGHTS POKING IN, UH, SHINING IN THERE.
WE'VE, WITH THAT LARGER SQUARE, WE'VE, UH, INCREASED THE SIZE OF, UM, THE BUILDING EIGHT BY A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE PARKING GARAGE WAS MOVED OFF OF THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, UM, AND THEN WE DELETED A LEFT TURN LANE, AND THEN THE GARAGE MOVED FROM 18 FEET TO 15 FEET OFF OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
THOSE ARE OUR, OUR MAJOR CHANGES.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE ARCHITECTURE'S STILL REALLY FUNCTIONALLY THE SAME.
THE SQUARE IS STILL KIND OF DESIGNED THE SAME.
UM, THE, THE RETAIL AND OFFICE ARE HIDING THE GARAGE.
AND THEN WE ARE FOCUSING ON REALLY HAVING THAT, UM, UH, A, A DIFFERENT EXPRESSION ALONG BRIDGE STREET THAN IN, THAN WE HAVE IN THE BACK.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN VERY SMALL FONT, WE'VE TRIED TO, UH, OUTLINE THE SIZE DIFFERENCES.
SO I THINK WE ARE, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE SIZE OF THE SQUARE AND THE PASSA WAYS WE'RE, WE HAVE TO BE CLOSE TO 10 X THE REQUIREMENT FOR OPEN SPACE OF WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED HERE.
SO WE'RE AT ABOUT 30,000 FEET, WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE PATHWAYS, THE GARAGE, THE WAYS WITH, FROM THE GARAGE FOR OPEN SPACE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY MAKE THAT BE A, A COMMUNITY AMENITY HERE.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THERE WOULD BE PROGRAMMING AND, UM, UH, UH, ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO I JUST HAVE KIND OF FOUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND YES, I KNOW IT GOES 1, 2, 4, 3.
WE WERE DOING THIS IN HASTE, SO, UH, THE GARAGE BUFFER, UM, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO WE ARE REALLY HOPING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER KEEPING A 15 FOOT, UH, UH, BUFFER FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AS OPPOSED TO AN 18 FOOT, UH, BUFFER THAT WE HAD LAST TIME.
SO THE REPORT CALLS OUT THAT THE, THE, WHEN THE SITE ZONE HISTORIC PUBLIC, A BUFFER OF A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET IS REQUIRED.
UM, THE REASON FOR US MAKING THIS CHANGE WAS THAT THE SIDEWALK WAS ONLY 10 FEET, AND THAT 10 FOOT SIDEWALK JUST REALLY DOESN'T FEEL GREAT FOR HOW MUCH STREET RETAIL ACTIVITY WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE WITHIN THAT.
AND SO WE FELT LIKE WE REALLY NEEDED MORE SPACE UP THERE, AND THAT'S MORE SPACE THAT'S DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
UM, AND WE MET WITH BASSAM AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO, UH, AFFECT THE TREES.
SO YESTERDAY WHEN IT WAS 94 DEGREES, I MET WITH A TREE CONSULTANT FROM ALIMAN ARBOR ON SITE.
AND, UH, WE HAD KIND OF DETERMINED THAT SOME OF THE TREES ARE JUST GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A BLACK WALNUT THAT NEEDS OF, OF THE SIZE THAT IT WAS, IT NEEDS 60 FEET, THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT, UH, ARE WITHIN THE, THE ROOT ZONES EXTEND WHERE THE TREE CANOPY IS.
AND THEY JUST SAID, IF WE'RE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE ITEMS BELOW IN THE SMALL BULLET POINTS, THIS CLOSE AND ROOT PROTECTION, THE FENCING TO PROTECT CRITICAL ROOT ZONES AND THE VERTICAL MULCHING GROWTH REGULATION AND ROOT TRENCHING AND POST-CONSTRUCTION SOIL AERATION, ARBORIST MONITORING, AND REGULAR WATERING.
HER CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 18, 15 FEET AND 18 FOOT IS NOMINAL.
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SO WE WERE REALLY HOPING THAT THE, THE COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER THAT IN ALLOWING US TO PUT THE GARAGE 15 FEET, WHICH IS ALLOWABLE PER CODE RATHER THAN 18 FEET.WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA LOSE ANY, THE, ANY OF THE TREES ALONG THE CEMETERY EITHER.
UH, THE DISCUSSION ITEM WE WANT TO TOUCH AS WELL IS THE GARAGE CEMETERY CONNECTIVITY.
UM, WE, WE LIKE THE IDEA OF CONNECTIVITY FROM, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR DEVELOPMENT TO THE CEMETERY.
UM, THE ISSUE THOUGH IS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT IS IN THE REPORT, UM, FOR APPROVAL.
THE, THE ISSUE THOUGH IS THAT, UH, UH, GOING THROUGH THE GARAGE AND INTO THE CEMETERY IS NOT GONNA BE A NICE EXPERIENCE.
JUST YOU'RE GONNA BE WALKING STRAIGHT OUT ONTO GRASS.
AND MORE PAVING WOULD CAUSE EVEN MORE DISTURBANCE TO THE, THE TREE ROOTS, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE ATTENTION AS WELL.
AND THERE'S, YOU DON'T REALLY, I DIDN'T NOTICE THIS TILL YESTERDAY.
THERE'S A MEANINGFUL ELEVATION CHANGE WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM THE BACK OF THE GARAGE TO THE, UH, CEMETERY, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING UPHILL QUITE A BIT AND WOULDN'T BE A DA COMPLIANT BY ANY MEANS.
THE ENTRANCE FROM THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D REALLY BE WALKING ONTO THE BACKSIDE OF GRAVESTONES, WHICH I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DISRESPECTFUL OR NOT, BUT IT JUST, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A REAL ENTRY WALKING INTO A CEMETERY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, EVEN THE NICEST GARAGES LIKE I HAVE HERE, JUST I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, WE SWEEP OUR GARAGE ALL THE TIME.
WE HAVE A STAFF THAT MANAGES IT IN THE SHORT NORTH, AND I, THERE'S STILL COBWEBS EVERYWHERE.
JUST IT, IT, I, I DON'T WANNA HAVE A FEELING OF SOMEBODY TRYING TO PARK AT OUR GARAGE TO GO TO THE CEMETERY AND THEN, OR WALK THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THEN HAVING THAT BE A, A HINDRANCE TO THEIR ENJOYMENT OF WHAT IS A BEAUTIFUL CEMETERY.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR IS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ABOUT PUTTING AN, A REAL ENTRANCE AT THE SOUTH END OF OUR SITE ON THE EAST SIDE OF MONTEREY.
THAT WOULD CREATE A REAL ENTRANCE INTO THE CEMETERY FOR A PEDESTRIAN THAT CALLS OUT, HEY, THIS IS HOW YOU CAN COME HERE FROM THE SQUARE AND COME INTO THE CEMETERY TO ENJOY, UH, A, A PEACEFUL WALK.
SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT, UM, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT ISSUE WITH THE COMMISSION HERE.
UH, ITEM FOUR, JUST, UH, A CORBIN'S MILL PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY.
SO WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF CREATING THIS PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR GOAL IS THAT TO KEEP THE EXISTING QUILT SHOP, UM, BUILDING RIGHT NOW, BUT THE GOAL WILL BE TO REDEVELOP IT EVENTUALLY.
AND SO I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF TREAT THIS AS IT'S GOING TO BE A, WE WE'RE CREATING A FOREVER SOLUTION FOR THIS PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY.
I SHOULD BE CLEAR THAT WE ARE PURCHASING THIS FOR, UH, NON-ECONOMIC REASONS.
UM, WE ARE PURCHASING THIS SO THAT WE HAVE AN EXIT ONTO CORBIN'S MILL SO THAT THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH TRAFFIC BACKING UP FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT FOR OFFICE USERS.
WE ARE GOING TO UNDOUBTEDLY LOSE MONEY AND BUYING THIS SITE.
IT'S A DEFENSIVE PLACE SO THAT WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO TRAVEL HERE.
THEY GET STUCK IN THE, A RED LIGHT TRYING TO GET OUT ONTO FROM MONTEREY BRIDGE, AND THEN THEY DON'T COME BACK.
SO WE HAVE THIS OTHER PATHWAY HERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL HERE IS, IS TO ALLOW, UH, A VALVE FOR CARS TO LEAVE, CREATING A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY AND TO HAVE MORE PARKING.
CREATING A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY THAT WOULD BE OVERLY BURDENSOME WOULD BE, UM, UH, HARD FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH THIS ACQUISITION.
UM, AND AS WELL AS LOSING, UM, UH, A MATERIAL LOSS OF PARKING.
I KNOW WE'LL LOSE SOME FROM A DA AND SOME, UH, PARKING, UH, LANDSCAPING.
BUT WHAT WE REALLY ARE HOPING FOR IS THAT THERE'S A STRIPED, UH, PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY, UH, LEADING THAT CAN LEAD A PEDESTRIAN FROM OUR SQUARE, THE, AND TAKE IT TO, UH, CORBIN'S MILL FROM THE THIN SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE QUILT SHOP.
AND THE QUILT SHOP IS NOT WITHIN THIS, UH, EXAMINATION, UM, THAT, THAT PARCEL THERE, BUT THE CONNECTIVITY IS IMPORTANT.
AND THEN THREE, JUST, UM, ON THE CONDITIONS SHEET, JUST WE WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS THAT, UM, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT NEEDS FIXED.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE JUST SAYING ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS TO BE REWORKED OR LOOKED AT, UM, HAVING SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE ABOUT, HEY, HERE ARE THE THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO, TO WORK ON AND TAKE A LOOK AT.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE PUT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, TIME AND CARE INTO THESE DESIGNS.
AND SO AS PROMISED, I HOPE I DIDN'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME AND WE WANNA LET BASSAM WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROJECT, BUT I'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU NOW FOR A STAFF PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THE, UH, AGAIN, JUST TO SET THE STAGE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE PROCESS, THIS IS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
SO IT IS THE THIRD OF TYPICALLY THREE STEPS IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.
UM, AS MR. POOLE, UH, UH, HINTED TO, WE ARE IN THIS
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PARTICULAR CASE, RECOMMENDING THAT THEY COME BACK WITH AN AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ONCE SOME OF THE, UH, DETAILS ARE FINALIZED.AND MOST OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT MR. POOLE JUST SUMMARIZED, UH, PERTAINING TO ARCHITECTURE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE THINGS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING AS CONDITIONS.
IF THOSE COULD BE ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME, WOULD BE, WOULD BE A BONUS.
UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT FOR A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT.
THOSE WOULD COME TO YOU FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND EVENTUALLY BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
BUT THOSE WOULD BE THE MORE TECHNICAL ENGINEERING TYPE OF APPLICATIONS.
AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, THEY COULD PROCEED TO PERMITTING SO MUCH LIKE THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, OPEN SPACE DETAILS AND SO FORTH.
UH, JUST AS A REMINDER OF THE LOCATION OF THE SITE, IT IS JUST TO THE WEST OF THE DUBLIN CEMETERY.
THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED IS A CITY-OWNED PARCEL THAT THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN THAT THAT WOULD BE TRADED IN EXCHANGE FOR AN EQUIVALENT EQUIVALENTLY SIZED, UH, TRACT AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY FOR CEMETERY EXPANSION.
SO WOULD BE THE SAME ACREAGE THAT YOU SEE THERE.
AND THEN, AS MR. POOL EXPLAINED, ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT YOU SAW AT THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THIS APPLICATION IS THE ADDITION OF THAT TRACK THAT 48, UH, CORBIN MILL DRIVE.
AND THAT TRACK IS ACTUALLY AN L-SHAPED OR REVERSE L UH, WITH A PANHANDLE EXTENDING ALL THE WAY TO, UH, WEST BRIDGE STREET.
SO THAT PART THAT EXTENDS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER WOULD BE REPRESENTED BY THAT TRACK.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, THE, UH, PARCEL LINE EXTENDS INTO THE MIDDLE OF PAVEMENT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL IS THAT THE AREA THAT'S WITHIN WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE THE HIGHWAY EASEMENT OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, BE DEDICATED AS SUCH AND FEE SIMPLE TO THE CITY.
THE ZONING IS, UH, STREET DISTRICT HISTORIC TRANSITION NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
THE PARCEL TO THE WEST IS BRIDGE STREET COMMERCIAL.
SO THIS PIECE WOULD HAVE SPLIT ZONING.
AND THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY UNUSUAL.
UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN POTENTIALLY AN ISSUE IF ANY OF THE BUILDINGS WERE EXTENDING INTO THAT BECAUSE THE BUILDING TYPE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WOULD NOT BE, UH, ALLOWED IN THE BRIT STREET COMMERCIAL.
BUT THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY REMAINING ON THE PROPERTY ZONED, UH, PIECE OF THE PARCEL.
UH, IT'S SURROUNDED BY SEVERAL DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE CEMETERY IS HISTORIC PUBLIC AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE ARE CERTAIN BUFFER REQUIREMENTS IS THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT IN THE BRIT STREET DISTRICT, THE WEST SIDE WITH THE HOUSE, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT OR HOUSE OF THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, UH, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUFFERING ALSO, UH, BECAUSE IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE AS WELL.
IT'S, BEAR WITH ME, IT'S MOVING KIND OF SLOWLY.
COUPLE OF, I WANT, WELL TOO MUCH ON THAT.
THERE IS AN EXISTING SHELL GAS STATION AT THE CORNER RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE REMOVED AND BECOMES PART OF THE PROJECT.
UH, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING TREES AT THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE AND SOME, UH, TREES WITHIN THE SITE ITSELF.
THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT SHOWS THE TREES THAT MR. POOL WAS JUST REFERRING TO, UH, BETWEEN THE PARCEL AND THE CEMETERY.
SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE TOMBSTONES IN HERE.
AND IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT ARE THE TREES THAT, THAT WERE MENTIONED.
THE ENVISION DUBLIN FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS MIXED USE VILLAGE, AND IT IS INTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE SMALL SCAPE, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DISTRICTS AND TALKS ABOUT OFFICE, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, CIVIC, AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS PRINCIPAL USES WITH MULTI-FAMILY AS, UM, SUPPORTING USES.
BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THE FORM AND ORIENTATION AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY'RE ALL CONSISTENT GENERALLY WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT NEXT DOOR, AND WITH THE APPROACH THAT THE APPLICANT IS TAKING HERE, IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT SPECIAL AREA PLAN.
UH, THAT PLAN ALSO TALKS ABOUT TRANSITION FROM THE ACTIVITY, THE, THE BUSIER ACTIVITY ALONG BRIT STREET TO THE
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RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH, AND ALSO TALKS ABOUT FUTURE CONNECTIVITY TO CORBIN'S MILL, WHICH IS, UH, CONCEPTUALLY SHOWN WITH THIS ARROW AT THIS LOCATION.THE BRITT STREETE DISTRICT CODE HAS, UH, DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE HISTORIC TRANSITION NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IT ALSO EMPHASIZES CERTAIN AREAS WITH THE, UH, INTENT AGAIN TO COMPLEMENT THE ADJACENT HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH THE TYPES OF USES, THE WALKABLE MIXED USE, THE OPEN SPACE PATTERNS, AND HOW THE BUILDINGS RELATE TO EACH OTHER.
AND THEN ALSO WITHIN THE BRITT STREETE CODE, THERE ARE SEVERAL STREET DESIGNATIONS.
AND AS YOU SEE FROM THIS GRAPHIC, THAT THIS, WHICH IS IN THE CODE ALSO CALLS FOR AN EXTENSION OF A PUBLIC STREET TO CORBINS MILL FOR FUTURE CONNECTIVITY.
SO IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR, UM, THE, THE HISTORY OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, UH, IT ORIGINALLY CAME TO YOU BACK IN JUNE OF 2025 WITH A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS MOSTLY, UH, RETAIL AND EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS.
AND IT HAD A, A PARKING STRUCTURES WITH A TWO STORY COMPONENT IN FRONT OF IT.
UH, SOME OF THE COMMENTS AT THE TIME WAS, UH, TRYING TO INCORPORATE A MIXTURE OF USES.
SO AS THAT EVENTUALLY EVOLVED, EVOLVED INTO THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE, UM, BUILDINGS ALONG THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT AND THE BUILDINGS ON THE EAST SIDE OF MONTEREY DRIVE BECAME TWO SORT BUILDINGS WITH OFFICE USES ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED WITH SEVERAL CONDITIONS.
AND THOSE WERE, UH, PRETTY MUCH, UM, AT LEAST ADDRESSED OR NOTED IN THE, UH, IN THE APPLICATION MATERIALS.
UH, I WOULD SAY A COUPLE OF THEM THAT, THAT ARE NOTABLE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED INCLUDE THE, UH, SENSITIVITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, PARCEL TO THE SOUTHWEST, AND THAT'S BEEN AIDED BY THE ACQUISITION OF THAT ADDITIONAL PARCEL.
SO THEY WERE ABLE TO REMOVE SOME OF THE PARKING AT THAT LOCATION, AND ALSO SOME OF THE SETBACKS AND OTHER BUFFER REQUIREMENTS THAT THAT APPLY.
SO THE, UH, RAMP AND THE DRIVE, UH, TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE HAVE BEEN MOVED A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH FROM THE TRACK THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
SO I THINK MR. POOLE DID A NICE JOB OF TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THERE.
SO I WON'T, UH, SINCE THEN, SO I WON'T NECESSARILY DWELL TOO MUCH ON THAT OTHER THAN, AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTING THE, UH, FACT THAT THERE IS NO PARKING ANYMORE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, AND THAT ALLOWS, WHILE IT'S NOT QUITE THE, UH, 15 FOOT BUFFER THERE, IT'S ABOUT EIGHT FEET OR 10 FOOT, I THINK IS WHAT APPLIES.
IT IS EIGHT FEET, WHICH ALLOWS FOR SOME OF THE, UH, UH, LANDSCAPING OR, OR THE TREES TO REMAIN.
AND THEN WE'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING THAT THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING AT THAT LOCATION.
AND WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE OPEN SPACE HERE AND SHIFTING SOME OF THE, UH, BUILDINGS TO THE WEST, IT ALSO ALLOWED FOR BUILDINGS THREE AND SIX TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE.
THEN WHAT WAS PROPOSED LAST TIME YOU SAW IT? UM, KIND OF JUST A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW IT FITS WITHIN THE CONTEXT.
UH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT HERE ABOUT THE PARKING STRUCTURE IN A, IN A LITTLE BIT.
JUST WANTED TO SHOW THE SCALE OF THAT RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE, UH, SCALE OF BUILDINGS, UM, IN THE GENERAL AREA TO, TO SET THE STAGE FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT AGAIN, THE INTENT IS THAT EVENTUALLY THE, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS A NEW PUBLIC STREET THAT WOULD TERMINATE AT THIS POINT AT THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.
BUT THE INTENT IS IF AND WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES, THAT WOULD BE EXTENDED TO CORBIN'S MILL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM THE BLOCK, AT LEAST ON THE WEST SIDE, TO BE A COMPLETE BLOCK.
AND SO THE, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES IN THE INTERIM OF, UH, INCLUDING THAT PARCEL TO THE WEST AT AT 48 IS, AS MR. PO MENTIONED, THIS, UH, LITTLE BIT OF A RELEASE WE HAVE UNTIL THAT, THAT TAKES PLACE IN TERMS OF THE USES, UM, AGAIN, IT'S STILL AS PROPOSED BEFORE RETAIL EATING AND DRINKING, UM, OFFICE USES ON THE UPPER FLOOR AND A PARKING STRUCTURE.
THE, UH, AS WE ALWAYS DO, AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION, SOME OF THE STREETS SCAPE DETAILS WILL INCLUDE OUR ENGINEERING STAFF AND OUR TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY STAFF.
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UH, MIGHT EVOLVE A LITTLE BIT.AND SO ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS TO CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH CITY STAFF ON FINALIZING THOSE DETAILS.
AND ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'VE, UH, DISCUSSED, AND WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH, IS AS YOU TRANSITION.
SO AS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE BRICK AND, AND I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT HOW THOSE RELATE TO THE, UH, BRIT STREET, UH, STREET SCAPE STANDARDS.
BUT AS YOU TRANSITION TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A CONCRETE SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE AND AN ASPHALT PATH ON THE WEST SIDE NEXT TO THE PARK.
SO WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM ON WHAT THAT TRANSITION LOOKS LIKE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S INTENTIONAL AND ALSO, UH, TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS A TRAFFIC CALMING COMPONENT TO THAT THAT MAY HAPPEN, UH, RIGHT AROUND THE AREA WHERE THE NEW EAST WEST STREET INTERSECTS WITH MONTEREY DRIVE TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT WHAT'S TO THE SOUTH IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC SHOULD, UM, BE TO THE NORTH OF THAT.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR THE PRE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THEY SUBMITTED A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SHOWED THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS WARRANTED AT THIS LOCATION, SO THAT THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
SO BACK TO THE STREETSCAPE FOR A MINUTE.
UH, THE BRIT STREET DISTRICT HAS VERY SPECIFIC STREETS SCAPE STANDARDS, AND THOSE DIFFER A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN, UH, SIGNATURE STREETS, WHICH ARE THE ONES, UH, THAT ARE MAJOR LIKE, UH, WESTBRIDGE STREET, AND THEN WHAT'S, UH, CLASSIFIED AS A STANDARD STREET, WHICH MONTEREY DRIVE AND THE NEW STREET, UH, WOULD FALL UNDER.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE BRIDGE STREET OR THE SIGNATURE STREET, STREET SCAPE ALONG BRIDGE STREET, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE BRICK, SIDEWALKS, UH, PLANTERS, GRANITE CURBS AND AND SO FORTH.
AS YOU TRANSITION TO MONTEREY DRIVE, THEY'RE DEVIATING FROM THE STANDARD, WHICH TYPICALLY CALLS FOR CONCRETE SIDEWALKS, BUT BRICK ON STREET PARKING.
IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE DOING THE REVERSE.
THE PARKING WOULD BE ASPHALT, THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE BRICK.
AND THAT IS INTENTIONAL BECAUSE IT'S, UH, AGAIN, INTENDED TO COMPLIMENT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO, UM, AS YOU TRANSITION THEN TO THE NEW STREET, THAT WOULD TAKE ON MORE OF THE CHARACTER OF THE STANDARD STREET, UH, WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.
SO, UH, WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO COORDINATE.
AND AS SOME OF YOU HAVE, UH, BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE RECENT COUNCIL WORK SESSION, WE ARE WORKING ON, UH, WITH A CONSULTANT ON IMPROVEMENTS TO BRIDGE STREET OR ON A PLAN FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT TO IMPROVE WALKABILITY.
SO SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED ON STREET PARKING, WILL BE FINALIZED IN COORDINATION WITH THAT PLAN AS WELL.
IN TERMS OF THE SITE PLAN, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THOSE ARE ONES WHERE IT'S A MINOR DEVIATION FROM THE CODE, FROM THE NUMERICAL CODE STANDARD BELOW 10%.
UM, AND WAIVERS ARE ONES THAT DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BOTH ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES AND WAIVERS ARE EMBEDDED INTO THE PROCESS TO ALLOW FOR EACH DEVELOPMENT TO BE UNIQUE WHILE STILL MEETING THE INTENT OF THE BRIT STREET DISTRICT.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES, UH, RELATED TO THE SITE.
ONE IS THE, UH, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A MID BUILDING PEDESTRIAN WAY, IF YOU WILL, WHEN THE BUILDING FRONTAGE EXCEEDS 150 FEET IN LENGTH.
AND THAT IS INTENDED TO COVER EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPONENT OF A BUILDING, AGAIN, TO PROMOTE THE WALKABILITY AND THE SCALE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
SO IN THIS CASE, BUILDING ONE, UH, IS MADE UP OF TWO COMPONENTS THAT ARE CONNECTED IN THE MIDDLE.
THE WESTERN PART OF IT IS, UH, ABOUT 161 FEET LONG.
SO IT DOES REQUIRE AN ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURE, AND WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
IT'S A SLIGHT DEVIATION THERE.
THE, UM, IMPERVIOUS LOT COVERAGE, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CA CALCULATION ON THE WEST SIDE VERSUS THE EAST SIDE, AND THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE BRI STREET THIS WAY ARE RELATED TO THE TECHNICAL BUILDING TYPE THAT'S BEING USED.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, ON FOR ALL BUILDINGS, THEY'RE PROPOSING THE HISTORIC MIXED USE BUILDING TYPE, WHICH HAS ITS OWN STANDARD, BUT THE PARKING STRUCTURE IS ANOTHER BUILDING TYPE, AND EACH ONE OF 'EM HAS DIFFERENT LOCK COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS.
SO ON THE WEST SIDE, IT'S, UH, THE COVERAGE MAXIMUM IS 85%, THEY'RE AT 90%.
SO THEY'RE, AGAIN, WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURE, AND WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE
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THE OPEN SPACE HERE WITH THE PROPOSED TOWN SQUARE THAT THAT'S BEING, UM, UH, IMPLEMENTED.AND THEN SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S BEING CREATED AS PART OF THE, UH, ADDITION OF THAT, UM, PARCEL TO THE WEST, WE HAVE A FEW WAIVERS.
ONE IS THE MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZE AND BLOCK, UH, PERIMETER, AND THOSE ARE, UM, LIMITED USUALLY TO 300 FEET OF, UH, LENGTH FOR EACH BLOCK PHASE.
IN THIS CASE, AS I MENTIONED, THIS BLOCK WILL CONTINUE ALL THE WAY TO CORBIN'S MILL.
SO WE HAVE BASICALLY A SET, UH, PARAMETER HERE THAT WOULD BE HARD TO DEVIATE FROM.
SO A WAIVER MAKES SENSE, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND THEN SIMILARLY ON THE EAST SIDE, THE BLOCK CANNOT BE COMPLETED.
YOU HAVE THE CEMETERY ON BOTH THE EAST AND SOUTH, AND SO THERE IS NO WAY FOR THAT BLOCK TO BE A COMPLETE BLOCK.
SO HENCE THE WAIVER OF THAT LOCATION AS WELL.
AND THEN WE HAVE A REQUIRED BUILDING ZONE, WHICH, UH, REQUIRES BUILDINGS ALONG MODERATE TO BE, UH, A MAXIMUM OF 10 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
IN THIS CASE, BUILDING FOUR WOULD NOT MEET THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE CREATING THAT SQUARE, UH, BUILDING FIVE HAS FRONTAGE ON THE NEW PUBLIC STREET, BUT THE WAIVER WOULD BE TO ALLOW BUILDING FOUR TO BE WHERE IT IS PROPOSED, WHICH MAKES SENSE, AGAIN, GIVEN THE THEME THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING FOR AT THIS LO UH, AT THIS LOCATION.
AND THEN THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS BUILDING TYPE THAT THE PARKING CAN ONLY BE TO THE REAR OF A BUILDING.
SO IN THIS CASE, BUILDINGS THREE AND FOUR HAVE PARKING TO THE SIDES.
AND AGAIN, GIVEN THE LAYOUT, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF A WAIVER, UH, FOR THOSE SETTINGS, BUILD BUILDINGS.
UH, PEDESTRIAN WAVES ALSO APPLIED TO BUILDING TWO AND SEVEN.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 200 FEET FOR BUILDING TWO, AND ABOUT 171 FEET FOR BUILDING SEVEN.
AND, BUT AGAIN, GIVEN THE LAYOUT, WE ARE, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE WAIVERS AS WELL.
UH, A FEW CONDITIONS WE'RE RECOMMENDING PERTAINING TO THE SITE PLAN.
UH, ONE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY, DECA DEDICATION THAT I MENTIONED, UH, UH, A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
UH, ONE IS, UH, SOME MODIFICATIONS TO, UH, BUILDING ENTRANCES OR PARKING DETAILS OFF OF BUILDING TWO.
SO IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THIS BUILDING, THE, UH, WITH THE PORTRAYAL, AT LEAST OF THE, UH, DOORWAYS BEING OPEN, THERE'S VERY LIMITED PEDESTRIAN SPACE BETWEEN THESE PARKING SPOTS AND THE, THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND SAME THING AT THE, UH, WEST END OF THAT PARKING AISLE.
SO THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT, OBVIOUSLY IS TO PROMOTE, UM, PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME WAYS WE CAN WORK WITH 'EM ON ACCOMMODATING SOME MODIFICATIONS THERE.
AND, AND MAYBE WHILE I'M AT THAT, UH, TO MR. POOLE'S, UH, CONCERN ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE CEMETERY, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING THROUGH THE PARKING STRUCTURE WITH AN EARLIER VERSION, UH, BEFORE WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE GRADINGS AND OTHER THINGS, I, I THINK THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR SOMEBODY TO PARK AT THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND WALK OVER TO THE CEMETERY, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING A SPECIFIC LOCATION.
I THINK WE'RE JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO THAT, THAT THAT OPEN SPACE THAT'S, UH, THAT IS THE CEMETERY IS ACCESSIBLE.
SO WHETHER THAT ENDS UP BEING CONNECTIVITY THROUGH HERE OR WHETHER THERE'S A WAY IT, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT AT THIS SITE.
AND WITHOUT HAVING A PLAN YET FOR THE CEMETERY EXPANSION, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE.
SO THE INTENT IS TO WORK ON A LOGICAL LOCATION TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT ALSO, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE.
UM, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME ENGINEERING DETAILS, ANY CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE STORMWATER DETENTION AND LANDSCAPING OR, UH, WORK TO BE FINALIZED WITH THE ENGINEERING DIVISION ABOUT STORMWATER ROUTING AND DETENTION.
UH, THOSE ARE TYPICAL CONDITIONS THAT WE, WE PUT AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.
IN TERMS OF PARKING, UH, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A PARKING PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ALSO FOR A VOTE TONIGHT.
UH, THEY, UH, DID A NICE JOB OF, UH, SUBDIVIDING THEIR PARKING, UH, TYPES INTO DIFFERENT ZONES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY INCLUDE ON STREET PARKING, WHICH IS PERMITTED IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT TO COUNT TOWARDS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
THEY HAVE, I BELIEVE, 295 SPACES WITHIN THE GARAGE.
AND SO WITH THE ADDITION OF THE
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PARCEL TO THE WEST, AND WHEN I SAY ADDITION, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT REVIEWING PLANS FOR THAT PARCEL RIGHT NOW, BUT THE INTENT IS THAT THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE SOME EXPANDED PARKING, WHICH WE WILL REVIEW AND A AGAINST CODE REQUIREMENTS, AND WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE, UH, THE APPROPRIATE REVIEWING BODY WHEN WE, UH, LOOK AT THAT.BUT THAT IS PERMITTED THROUGH THE CODE IN TERMS OF ACCOMMODATING SHARED PARKING AGREEMENTS.
AND SO THERE, BASED ON THEIR INITIAL DRAWINGS, THEY'RE SHOWING 57 PARKING SPACES AT THAT LOCATION.
WE BELIEVE THAT MAY END UP BEING A LITTLE BIT LESS BY THE TIME WE, UH, INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, UM, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT TO ALL BE INTEGRATED.
SO WITH THAT ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, INCLUDING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THAT PARCEL, UM, AND WITH SOME OF THE REDUCTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY CODE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 473 PARKING SPACES.
UH, WHEN I MENTIONED THE REDUCTIONS, THERE ARE ONES FOR TRANSIT PROXIMITY.
WE HAVE SEVERAL CODE OF STOPS WITHIN THAT, UH, THRESHOLD DISTANCE.
THERE ARE ALLOWANCES FOR SHARED PARKING, AND THERE ARE ALLOWANCES FOR THEM TO EXPLAIN, UH, THIS, UH, DEMONSTRATION OF PARKING NEED.
HOW THESE USES, UH, DON'T ALL HAVE THE SAME PEAK HOUR AND THE PARKING IS CALCULATED ON THE BASIS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL USE, BUT IN REALITY, THEY'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, AGAIN, THE NUMBER IS 4 73, UH, THEY'RE PROVIDING 476.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT NUMBER WILL POTENTIALLY DECREASE A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE MAY FALL A LITTLE SHORT, 4 73 EVENTUALLY, DEPENDING ON, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
BUT WE STILL COMFORTABLE THAT WE, WE ARE WITHIN THE RANGE OF MEETING THE INTENT OF THE CODE AND, AND BEING, UH, ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING NEEDS.
THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS ALSO IN THE CODE ABOUT, UH, LOADING SPACES.
SO FOR BUILDINGS OVER 25,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, A SINGLE LOADING SPACE IS REQUIRED.
IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS THAT EXCEED THAT.
AND, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE INDIVIDUAL, UM, LOADING SPACE, WHICH WOULD BE ON STREET.
UH, THE ON STREET LOCATION IS ADDRESSED ALSO IN THE PARKING PLAN, BUT WE ARE COMFORTABLE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED, THAT, UH, A WAIVER IS REASONABLE.
UM, THE CODE DOES REQUIRE WHEN YOU HAVE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENTS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO THAT PARCEL.
SO IF YOU ARE PARKING IN ZONE D AND YOU WANNA, UM, SHOP OR EAT AT THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, TRAVERSE THAT IN A, IN A SAFE MANNER.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S ONE WE, WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE DETAILS.
UH, WE DO THINK AS WE START LOOKING AT THESE SPECIFIC DIMENSIONS, THAT THERE MAY BE WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AND LINK TO THE EXISTING WALK AS NARROW AS IT IS AROUND THE EXISTING BUILDING, BUT WE DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT MOVING FORWARD.
UM, BICYCLE PARKING, WE MENTIONED THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE PARKING THEY WERE SHOWING ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE.
SINCE THEN, THEY'VE PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AND THAT WOULD NOT BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
EVERYTHING WILL BE EITHER ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE GARAGE OR, UH, OUTSIDE.
WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON WHERE THOSE MIGHT BE MOST VISIBLE TO PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE, THEY ARE A FEW AROUND THE OPEN SPACES OR BUILDING ENTRANCES.
UM, SO THAT'S A RECOMMENDED CONDITION THAT WE THINK WE CAN EASILY ADDRESS.
THE CODE ENCOURAGES, UM, EV CHARGING POINTS.
SO WE ARE, AND THERE'S A FORMULA THERE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THEY CONSIDER TWO OR THREE EV PARKING STATIONS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN AGAIN, THEY WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ENGINEERING ON THE, UH, STORM WATER DETAILS.
IN TERMS OF THE OPEN SPACE PLAN, UH, BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THERE'S A CERTAIN THRESHOLD THAT YOU HAVE TO CROSS.
THEY HAVE FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE STANDPOINT, THEY WELL EXCEED THAT REQUIREMENT BY, BY FAR MARGIN.
UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO, UH, SPECIFIC OPEN SPACE TYPES THAT ARE PERMITTED AND THERE, SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ADDRESSED HERE.
THE, THERE'S A SPACE ON THE EAST SIDE OF MONTEREY, WHICH, UH, TAKES YOU BACK TO THE ENTRY TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH QUALIFIES UNDER THE DEFINITION OF POCKET PLAZA.
AND THEN THE TOWN SQUARE FITS UNDER THE PLAZA DEFINITION, AND BOTH OF THOSE ARE PERMITTED OPEN SPACE TYPES WITHIN THE HISTORIC TRANSITION NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, KIND OF LIKE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WERE ASKING WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION, UH,
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WE INCLUDE ONLY THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY BEING USED FOR PRIVATE USE.UH, IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE SOME PRIVATE PATIOS THAT ARE FENCED IN OR POTENTIAL SEEDING AREAS.
SO WE LOOK BASICALLY AT, UM, THE AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE EITHER AN OPEN LAWN OR WOULD BE WITH PLANTERS AND OUTSIDE OF THOSE PRIVATE SEEDING AREAS, AND THEY STILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND, AND EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OPEN SPACE.
UH, IRONICALLY, THE, UH, POCKET PLAZA HAS A MAXIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT, AND THEY'RE ABOVE THAT.
AND, BUT THE GEOMETRY OF AND LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED POCKET PLAZA MAKES SENSE.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A WAIVER AND THEN MENTION THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE CEMETERY AND, AND PARK.
UM, WE, THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS IN THAT DISTRICT PROMOTE CONNECTIVITY TO THE SURROUNDINGS, SO THAT'S PART OF IT AS WELL.
AND IN TERMS OF THE PARK IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT CONNECTIVITY IS AT THE RIGHT PLACE, BECAUSE THERE IS AN ENTRANCE TO THE TENNIS COURTS WITH SOME STEPS AT THAT LOCATION.
SO IT'S JUST FINALIZING THOSE DETAILS, WHICH WE, I'M SURE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THREE PRESERVATION PLAN.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT TREES AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME NICE TREES WITHIN THE, UH, UH, SITE ITSELF AS WELL.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RED CIRCLES ON THE PLAN, A LOT OF THOSE TREES UNFORTUNATELY, WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED, UH, BY THE TIME YOU DO THE GRADING AND YOU DO THE BUILDING LOCATIONS AND THE PARKING AND, AND UTILITIES AND SO FORTH.
THE, UH, CODE, UH, REQUIRES TREE REPLACEMENT.
AND THIS IS THE GENERAL CODE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, IT, UH, EXEMPTS TREES THAT ARE LOCATED WHERE BUILDINGS ARE REQUIRED OR PUBLIC STREETS ARE REQUIRED, UH, FROM THAT REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT.
UH, HOWEVER, OTHER LOCATIONS ARE NOT EXEMPTED, LIKE PARKING LOTS AND, UH, AND THE TIMES SQUARE, FOR EXAMPLE, TECHNICALLY WOULD NOT BE EXEMPTED.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO EITHER MEET THAT THROUGH, UH, PLANTING NEW TREES OR, UH, AN INCH FOR INCH FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T QUALIFY OR THROUGH, UH, A FEE OR THROUGH SOME OTHER AGREEMENTS.
UH, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING.
I WOULD NOTE THAT WITH THE TREES ALONG THE WEST SIDE, UM, THOSE IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE UNDERSTORY VEGETATION RIGHT NOW PROVIDE A PRETTY HEFTY BUFFER.
AND, UH, THOSE, MANY OF THOSE WILL BE REMOVED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE FOR A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH THE, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND, AND SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DISCUSSIONS.
THE MR POOL TOUCHED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE GARAGE AND, AND HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TREES IN THAT LOCATION ARE PRETTY LARGE, AND THE CANOPY, AS DRAWN AT LEAST, WOULD OVERLAP WHERE THE, UH, GARAGE IS.
NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE TREES ARE, UH, HACK BERRIES, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE ARE PRETTY HARDY.
AND SO IF THERE ARE METHODS THAT COULD HELP, UH, PROTECT THOSE, THOSE ARE, THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS THE 15 FOOT BUFFER IS THE MINIMUM THAT'S REQUIRED AS DRAWN RIGHT NOW.
SOME OF THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE FOR THIS, THE GARAGE APPEAR TO EXTEND BEYOND THAT 15 FOOT BUFFER, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE FOOTERS UNDERNEATH.
AND SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE WHY THEIR SIDEWALKS WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE BALANCE BETWEEN, UM, THE SIDEWALK WIDTH AND THE HEALTH OF THOSE TREES.
AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE RECOMMENDATION, IS TO TRY TO PROTECT THE TREES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, FOR THE MOST PART, MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO POINT OUT.
ONE IS THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THIS ADDITIONAL PARCEL, RIGHT, HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETELY DESIGNED, UM, AS THAT CURB GETS, UH, DEFINED AND HOW IT'S GONNA INTERACT WITH THE EXISTING CIRCULATION SYSTEM AT THE GAS STATION SITE TO THE WEST, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD SOME LANDSCAPING THERE, UH, COMBINATION OF TREES AND, AND SHRUBS, NOT, NOT TO HIDE THE BUILDING, BUT TO CREATE SOME SOFTNESS AND MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THE LOSS OF TREES AND BUFFER THE, THE GAS STATION A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE ALSO BELIEVE, UH, THEY'RE SHOWING SHRUBS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THESE PARKING SPACES.
WE BELIEVE THERE'S ROOM FOR MAYBE TWO OR THREE TREES ALSO TO BE
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ADDED AT THAT LOCATION.I MENTIONED THE, UH, UH, AREA NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL, UH, THEY'VE COMMITTED, AND IT IS IN THE APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT THEY WOULD PUT, UH, SIX FOOT CEDAR FENCE AT THAT LOCATION, ALONG WITH PRESERVING AS MANY OF THE TREES AS POSSIBLE, UH, ADDING SOME, UH, SHRUBS ON THEIR SITE, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING AN ALLOWANCE TO THE NEIGHBOR IF, UH, THEY WANTED TO DO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
AND I'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBOR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH THAT, UM, ARRANGEMENT.
THE ONLY THING IS THE PLAN DOES NOT SHOW ANY SHRUBS ON THEIR PART.
SO, UH, WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON BUILDING THAT IN.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE INTERIOR PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE, UH, THERE IS, UM, A, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, 5%, A MINIMUM OF 5% OF OPEN SPACE WITH SOME SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE WIDTH OF A PARKING LOT ISLAND, FOR EXAMPLE, OR GIVES YOU AN OPTION TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE OR TO DO A LARGER PLANTER.
UM, THERE, THOSE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN ANY OF, OF THE PARKING, UH, PARKING SURFACE PARKING LOTS.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT START OF BUILDING ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE SHOWING MORE OF A STREET SCAPE TYPE OF TREATMENT WITH THREE GRATES AND, AND TREES, THAT A WAIVER IS WARRANTED TO ALLOW THAT TO BE A DIFFERENT OPTION, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL ADDING STREET TREES.
UH, BUT WE DO RECOMMEND THAT IN THE TWO SPOTS WHERE THEY HAVE A RUN OF MORE THAN 12 PARKING SPACES WITH NO LANDSCAPE ISLANDS THAT THEY MEET COULD IN THOSE LOCATIONS, UH, AGAIN, GOES BACK TO THE WHOLE WESTERN SIDE OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY.
AND THE LOSS OF LOSS OF BUFFER AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ALL INTEGRATED WITH WHAT HAPPENS ON, ON THE WEST.
AND THEN FINALLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND THE PARCEL THAT'S BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR CEMETERY EXPANSION, THE RAMP TO THE GRUDGE IS ONLY FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE DRIVEWAY IS ONLY THREE FEET, AGAIN, MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENTS, BUT IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY BUFFERING ON THEIR SITE.
SO THEY'RE SHOWING SOME LANDSCAPING ON THE PARCEL TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
I THINK CITY COUNCIL'S INTENTION IS TO HAVE AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT PARCEL.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THEY COORDINATE WITH THE CITY AND THE ARTS COUNCIL TO CREATE SOME SORT OF A CREATIVE BUFFER AT THAT LOCATION THAT'S RESPECTFUL OF THE CEMETERY, BUT DOES NOT OCCUPY TOO MUCH SPACE.
SO, SO THAT'S A RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF, UM, APPROVAL.
AND THEN JUST UPDATING THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS.
UH, THEY DID PROVIDE DETAILS FOR HOW THEY WERE GONNA TREAT THE OPEN SPACES, WHICH, UH, ALL MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS.
WE WILL, UH, WHEN WE TALK MORE ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE, WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SCREENING OF THE DUMPSTERS AND THE UTILITIES, BECAUSE CODE REQUIRES THOSE TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE BUILDING MATERIALS.
SO, UH, WE, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR SOME OF THE FINAL DETAILS.
THE LIGHTING, UM, WE DID NOT RECEIVE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THEY PROVIDE THAT AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
UH, LIGHTING WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WILL HAVE TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY.
AND SO AGAIN, STANDARD, STANDARD CONDITION.
AND THEN GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT ARCHITECTURE, THAT'S THE ONE PART MR. UH, POOL HINTED AT THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE, UH, THE FINAL DETAILS COME BACK AT THE A MAGNET FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE.
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS TO, UH, KEEP 'EM MOVING FORWARD AND GIVE THEM COMFORT LEVEL THAT DO REQUIRE WAIVERS THAT WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING YOU ACT ON THIS EVENING AND OTHERS THAT WE WILL DEFER.
SO AGAIN, THERE ARE TWO BUILDING TYPES HERE THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
THE HISTORIC MIXED USE AND THE PARKING STRUCTURE BUILDING TYPES FOR THE HISTORIC MIXED USE, THERE ARE CERTAIN HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S A MINIMUM OF ONE AND A HALF STORIES.
UH, THERE ARE GROUND STORY MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM HEIGHTS, UPPER STORY, MINIMUM MAXIMUM HEIGHTS, ROOF TYPE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, PRIMARY MATERIALS THAT HAVE TO, UH, CONS, UH, COMPOSE BE, UH, AT LEAST 80% OF THE FACADE.
THERE ARE ROOF MATERIALS IN THE CODE AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE TYPE.
UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, AND AS YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SEE IN THIS, UH, RENDERING THEIR BUILDINGS, UM, AGAIN, ON THE FRONT EDGE, ON, ON BRIDGE STREET ARE TWO STORIES.
AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF MONTEREY ARE TWO STORIES.
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THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE TOWN SQUARE ARE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE AS HIGH AS TWO STORY BUILDINGS, BUT THEY REALLY ONE STORY BUILDINGS WITH, WITH A HIGHER CEILINGS.SO FROM A TECHNICAL CODE REQUIREMENTS, THAT REQUIRES A WAIVER BECAUSE THEY ARE LESS THAN A ONE AND A HALF STORY.
SO WANTED TO SET THE STAGE WITH THAT.
SO IN TERMS OF THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS, AND I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL SIMILAR.
SO BUILDING ONE, UH, HAS A GRAND STORY, WHICH IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ALL BUILDINGS OF 16 FEET.
THE, THE MAXIMUM IS 12 FEET, SO THAT REQUIRES A WAIVER.
PRIMARY MATERIALS IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT ARE PERMITTED, WHICH ARE BRICK, UH, SEW AND WOOD SIDING.
UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING FIBER CEMENT PANELS AND COMPOSITE SIDING.
UM, FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, PRIMARY MATERIALS, UM, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ AT THIS SCALE, BUT THESE BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE BRICK ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THAT COMPOSITE SIDING ON THE UPPER FLOORS.
AND SO WITH SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS HAVING BEEN USED SUCCESSFULLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT NEXT DOOR, AND MOST OF THEM BEING, UH, ABOVE, UH, STREET LEVEL, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
UM, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE WILL FINALIZE AT THE, UH, UM, AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE WITH SOME OF THE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE ENTRANCE LOCATIONS AND, AND SO FORTH.
UM, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, THESE BUILDINGS HERE, UH, WILL BE, UH, PAINTED WHITE, SO THEY WOULD BE BRICK WITH SIDING ON, ON THE UPPER FLOOR, BUT THEY WOULD BE PAINTED WHITE.
SO WE'LL GET TO THAT ALSO IN A MINUTE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE MOVING FORWARD.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO, UH, STAFF REALLY APPRECIATES ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE, UH, DONE WITH US ON MAKING QUITE A FEW REFINEMENTS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
THINK THAT THERE IS, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE QUITE A FEW CHANGES FROM LAST TIME THAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED THERE.
THERE MAY BE A FEW TWEAKS, BUT, UH, WE ARE, WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THESE ARE GOING.
SO, UH, AGAIN, SIMILAR WAIVERS FOR BUILDING TWO.
UH, THE ADDITIONAL ONE HERE IS THE WESTERN BAY IS ONE STORY.
SO THAT REQUIRES A WAIVER BUILDING THREE HAS, UH, AGAIN, THESE ARE ONE STORY STORY BUILDINGS.
WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE AT THE, UH, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THE WAY THEY ARE PROPOSING THEM IS THAT THE TENANTS, THE INDIVIDUAL TENANTS WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A MEZZANINE LEVEL, UM, SET UP AND OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS THAT MAY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT HEIGHT.
SO, UH, SHORT OF HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL UPPER FLOOR UNITS, WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT APPROACH.
AND SO HERE WE'RE CALLING THE GROUND STORY HEIGHT AT, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, ABOUT 25 FEET.
YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING, UH, BECAUSE IT'S A COLLECTION OF DIFFERENT STYLES THAT THAT'S THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT YOU WOULD GET THERE.
UH, THE, UH, ADDITIONAL MATERIALS PROPOSED HERE INCLUDES SOME STUCCO AND TERRACOTTA.
UH, TERRACOTTA TILES ARE PROPOSED AT THE BASE OF THIS BUILDING.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE NOT LISTED IN THE CODE.
SO WE RECOMMENDING APPROVALS OF WAIVERS.
UH, ROOF TYPES IN THE DISTRICT ARE, UH, ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE PITCHED ROOFS, AND THOSE DO NOT INCLUDE THE MANSLAUGHTER TYPE PROOF, WHICH IS, UH, SPECIFIC TO RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE BRITT STREET DISTRICT AND OR FLAT ROOFS.
AND AGAIN, GIVEN THE INTENT TO HAVE SOME VARIETY, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE WAIVERS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DIFFERENT ROOF TYPES.
BUILDING FOUR SIMILAR, UM, ISSUES.
THE ONE THING WITH BUILDINGS FOUR AND FIVE, AND TO A LESSER EXTENT, SIX, IS AGAIN, THAT WAS AN EDGE THAT WE SEEM TO KEEP, UH, GOING BACK TO.
AND THAT ONE BY THE NATURE OF SOME OF THE USES, UM, IS A SERVICE AREA AT THE BACK OF HOUSE.
UH, BUT IN THE BRICK STREET DISTRICT, ALL BUILDINGS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT AS FOUR SIDED.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S ONE WHERE WE LIKE TO GET THE COMMISSION'S OPINION AND ALSO, UH, WORK WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THE DARKER SHADING? UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A CONCRETE BLOCK THAT LOOKS LIKE BRICK.
IT'S A GRAY MODULE, AND WE'LL SEE IT HERE IN IN A SECOND WITH THE, UH, UH, BUILDING MATERIAL BOARD.
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LOOKED AT SOME PICTURES THAT THEY SHARED WITH US OF THAT.IT LOOKS, UH, LIKE BRACKETS JUST A SLIGHTLY LARGER MODULE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCES ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OF THE COLOR RETENTION OF SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE PROPOSING PUBLIC ART.
THEY'RE PROPOSING TRELLIS, THEY'RE PROPOSING SOME SHUTTERS TO TRY TO BREAK UP, UH, THOSE FACADES.
BUILDING FIVE IS THE SAME THING.
THERE'S A LARGER EXPANSE OF THAT AREA.
AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE FACING THE NEW PUBLIC STREET AND MONTEREY PARK, UH, THERE IS A STRETCH THAT WOULD BE BRICK, BUT IT WOULD BE, UH, BLANK.
AND SO AGAIN, THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE A NICE JOB OF DIVIDING IT UP INTO THE PEERS AND INCLUDING STOREFRONTS ON THE EAST, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.
BUT AGAIN, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN YOUR INPUT ON THAT.
BUILDING SIX AGAIN, UH, IS ADJACENT TO THAT STREET.
UH, IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE ADDING DISPLAY WINDOWS, WHICH ARE TECHNICALLY NOT TRANSPARENCY, BUT THEY DO BREAK UP THE FACADE.
SO AGAIN, INTERESTED IN THE COMMISSION'S INPUT INTO THAT WOULD REQUIRE A WAIVER, UH, BUT MAYBE, UH, LESS THAN A BLANK WALL.
AND THEN BUILDING SEVEN IS THE ONE THAT INCLUDES THE GARAGE.
SO THIS FACADE IS THE ONE FACING MONTEREY.
AND THEN THESE TWO ARE THE INTERNAL FACADE AROUND THE POCKET PLAZA.
UM, AGAIN, GRAND STORY HEIGHT VARIANCE IN THIS CASE, PART OF A, A PART OF THE SECOND FLOOR MIGHT REQUIRE A HEIGHT VARIANCE AND SOME MATERIALS INCLUDING STUCCO.
UM, IN THIS CASE, AGAIN, DONE A NICE JOB OF ACCOMMODATING THAT.
THIS, UH, THE, THE, UH, SAS COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE DESIGN DETAILS.
UH, THIS MIDDLE PARK WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE, AND THEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE ITSELF, UH, WOULD BE CONNECTED TO THOSE, UM, FRONT ENDS OF THE BUILDING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSITION.
THIS WOULD BE THE SA SIDE FACING THE NEW CEMETERY EXPANSION AND THE EAST SIDE FACING THE MAIN CEMETERY.
AND THIS, AGAIN, WOULD BE THAT, UH, CONCRETE BLOCK LOOKING, UH, OR BRICK LOOKING CONCRETE BLOCK MATERIAL.
UM, WE APPRECIATE THE HONESTY OF THE DESIGN.
WE DO THINK THAT THE SCALE OF THIS RELATIVE TO EVERYTHING ELSE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, SOMEWHAT STARK AGAINST THE, UH, CEMETERY.
YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, UH, MASSING OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING VERSUS THE EAST SIDE.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE CEMETERY WITH THE EXISTING CHURCH.
UM, IT WAS BUILT OVER THREE STAGES.
AND SO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ROOF LINES, AND THIS IS LONGER THAN ALL OF THOSE COMBINED.
SO WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, LOOKED LIKE A FAKE STRUCTURE, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BREAK DOWN THE MASSING CREATIVELY.
AND GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A SECONDARY, UH, PRIMARY, UH, SECONDARY MATERIAL THERE.
AND WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM ON SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
UH, HERE'S A VIEW FROM THE CEMETERY.
HERE'S THE TREES THAT WE ARE, UH, TALKING ABOUT, AND THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE RIGHT BEHIND THAT.
AND SO EVEN WITH FULL FOLIAGE, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT STRUCTURE PRETTY CLEARLY FROM THE CEMETERY.
AND THEN FINALLY, BUILDING EIGHT, WHICH IS, UH, THE JEWEL BOX HERE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC SQUARE.
UH, AGAIN, ONE STORY BUILDING.
UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DETAILS.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS THESE DETAILED AT THIS, UH, APPLICATION BUILDING MATERIALS.
UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT COLORS OF BRICK.
THERE IS THE PAINTED, UH, BRICK THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UH, THESE ARE THE CONCRETE BLOCK BRICK LIKE, UH, MATERIALS.
UH, THIS IS THE TERRACOTTA THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UH, ONE OF THE ROOFS IN THE, IN BUILDING SEVEN IS A CLAY TILE ROOF, UH, WHICH IS, AGAIN, NOT LISTED AS A PRIMARY MATERIAL, SO WE'RE SUPPORTING A WAIVER FOR THAT.
AND THEN ALL OF THESE ARE THE COMPOSITE SIDING COLORS AND THE, UH, FIBER CEMENT COLORS IN THE STUCCO.
AND FINALLY, UH, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE ABOUT, UH, BUILDING VARIETY.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE THE ROOF LINES ARE AT DIFFERENT SCALES AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT COLORS OF MATERIALS.
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UH, WE THINK THAT THEY'VE DONE A NICE JOB WITH SOME OF THE PENETRATIONS HERE TO OFFSET.YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THESE BUILDINGS IN AN EL ELEVATION FORMAT.
SO WE DO THINK THAT THEY'VE, UH, ACHIEVED SOME OF THE VARIETY, UH, IN HERE.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION.
UH, THESE ARE ALL GONNA BE SIMILAR COLORS, SO IF YOU FEEL THAT THEY'VE SATISFIED THE BUILDING VARIETY THROUGH THE MASSING, UM, IN THERE, UH, JUST MOVING FORWARD, JUST WANTED REASSURANCE.
SO TWO ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES SINCE WE WENT THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE, I'M NOT GONNA, UM, GO THROUGH THOSE.
WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THOSE TWO.
WE HAVE 14 WAIVERS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE, UH, THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN CRITERIA HAVE BEEN EITHER MET OUTRIGHT OR WITH CONDITIONS OR WITH ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES OR WAIVERS.
AND SO WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PARKING PLAN, THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES, THE 14 WAIVERS, AND THEN THE CONDITIONS THAT I WENT THROUGH AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
WOULD THAT BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO THE COMMISSION NOW FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND STAFF.
UM, MR. ALEXANDER, YOU HAD A LITTLE BREAK.
I HAD A FEELING YOU'D START WITH ME.
MOST OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT BASS, SOME, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, THE 90% COVERAGE, THE COVERAGE CALCULATIONS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER INCLUDE THE OPEN SPACE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE, YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE TREES, UM, ON THE EAST, ON THE EAST END OF THE PROPERTY, WILL THOSE TREES NEED TO BE LIMBED UP? I, I BELIEVE SO.
I DON'T KNOW IF, AS PART OF YOUR CONVERSATION WITH THE ARBORISTS, UH, IF THEY HAD, I, I THINK TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, SOME OF 'EM ARE BEING LIMPED UP BECAUSE OF THE POWER LINES ON A CERTAIN STRETCH, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE LIMPED UP TO ACCOMMODATE THE STRUCTURE.
UH, MR. POOLE, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COME UP SINCE OUR LAST MEETING WAS THE PARKING ON THE ADJACENT PARCEL.
DID YOU, WHICH OF COURSE, CONTRIBUTES IMPERVIOUS COVER TO THE AREA, DID YOU CONSIDER BUILDING ANOTHER LEVEL ON THE PARKING GARAGE? UM, WE DID NOT CONSIDER BUILDING ANOTHER LEVEL QUITE YET, JUST BECAUSE, UH, WE DIDN'T WANNA OVERWHELM THE CEMETERY AS, UH, ANOTHER STORY ABOVE THAT.
THE, UM, I THINK OUR, OUR SUBURB IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A LOT IN THAT THEY'RE REALLY OVER PARKED.
AND A LOT OF THAT PARKING, UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE SHOPPING CENTER SEEMS TO BE WAY UNDERUTILIZED.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF, YOU'VE READ THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'VE HEARD SUGGESTIONS BEFORE, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IT PROBABLY AGAIN ABOUT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS OVER TO CORBIN'S MILL.
WAS THERE EVER ANY CONSIDERATION OF USING SOME OF THAT TO MEET YOUR, MAKING A CONNECTION AND USING SOME OF THAT TO MEET YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS? SORRY, UH, USING, UM, USING THE 48 CORBINS MILL PARK.
OH, THE, THE CASTO SHOPPING CENTER, SORRY.
UM, WE'VE NOT, HAD NOT HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
I, I THINK THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT GETS, UM, BROUGHT UP WITH THEM.
I COULD SEE IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, EMPLOYEE PARKING THERE COULD, COULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
THE, UM, I DO, I DO WANT TO, SOMETIMES OUR QUESTIONS SOUND LIKE CRITICISMS AND I WANT TO, UH, PREFACE THIS BY COMPLIMENTING YOU AND THE TEAM.
I THINK THE ELEVATIONS HAVE REALLY IMPROVED AND A LOT OF OUR CONCERNS, OR AT LEAST CONCERNS I BROUGHT UP HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
BUT I, BUT I'D STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THE ELEVATIONS.
IS THERE A, IS THERE A CONSCIOUS DECISION IN THE DESIGN OF THE ELEVATIONS TO HAVE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THESE BUILDINGS? 'CAUSE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, LIKE I LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT'S FACING BRIDGE STREET ON THOSE TWO BUILDINGS, AND THEN I LOOK AT THE BACKS AND THERE'S A LITTLE LESS DETAIL.
AND THEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS LIKE WHERE, UM, BASSEN POINTED OUT THAT CONCRETE BLOCK UNIT WHERE THE FRONT OF IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE BRICK AND IT'S A DIFFERENT MATERIAL.
SO ARE YOU TRYING TO SORT OF LESSEN MATERIALS THAT ARE USED IN THE BACKS? I, YES.
I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO LESSEN THE MATERIALS FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACKS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT'S HISTORICALLY CORRECT IN THE HISTORIC TRANSITION DISTRICT, DISTRICT.
I THINK ABOUT EVERY BUILDING THAT MARK AND SANDY HAVE DONE THAT'S BEEN RENOVATED IN THE SHORT NORTH, THE FRONT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE BACK.
I THINK THE, THE BUILDING WHERE RIGSBY'S WAS AND BRASSICA IS THERE'S THIS BEAUTIFUL FACE BRICK ON THE FRONT AND ON THE BACK THERE'S A, A, A HUMBLE BRICK WITH NOT AS MANY WINDOWS AND NOT AS MANY DETAILS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO EMULATE HERE.
BUT THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY BETWEEN FRONT AND BACK.
UM, I, I THINK THAT, UH, OKAY, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, OPERATE A SHOPPING CENTER THAT PULLS PEOPLE INTO THIS SPACE THAT
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WE WANT THEM TO EXIST IN THE, UM, YOU'RE BUILDING SEVEN, THE FRONT OF BUILDING SEVEN CHANGED A LOT.AND I THINK BASSAM'S LAST, UM, SLIDE OF THE ELEVATIONS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, I THINK REALLY MAKE MY POINT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN OF YOUR ORIGINAL BUILDING SEVEN, UM, PARTICULARLY THE AREA TO THE LEFT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT ELEVATION, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF VARIATION IN THE PLAN.
AND NOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, THERE'S NO VARIATION AND YET THE FACADE IS CONTINUOUS.
SO THE CHANGE OF MATERIALS ESSENTIALLY HAS LIMITED IMPACT IN THAT IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WALLPAPER INSTEAD OF LIKE THE BUILDINGS BASSAM WAS SHOWING WHERE THEIR OFFSETS AND THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
SO THE LOWER ELEVATION, THOSE, THOSE ELEVATIONS TO THE LEFT ARE ALL IN THE SAME PLANE IF, IF YOUR PLAN, IF YOUR PLAN'S ACCURATE.
SO WHEREAS BEFORE YOU HAD A LOT OF OFFSETS IN THAT FRONT PLANE.
SO I'M KIND OF WONDERING, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIETY IN THE PLANE OF THE FRONT? YEAH, I DEFINITELY WANNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE FRONT ELEVATION OF BUILDING SEVEN? THE FRONT ELEVATION ON MONTEREY BUILDING, BUILDING SEVEN ON THE LEFT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE LOWER, I'M LOOKING AT THE LOWER ELEVATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT.
AND, AND WHAT DOES THE BACK OF THAT LOOK LIKE? I, I DIDN'T SEE THE GARAGE AN ELEVATION OF THE, BUT IS SOME OF THAT SURFACE EXPOSED WHEN YOU'RE ON, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE GARAGE, WHEN YOU SEE THE BACK OF THAT? I, I WOULD BET THE BACK OF THAT IS A CMU WALL INSIDE THE GARAGE OR AN AUTOCLAVE WALL.
SO NONE OF IT'S VISIBLE ABOVE THE UPPER ROOF DECK? IT WOULDN'T BE VISIBLE, NO.
THE, UM, NOW YOU HAD, YOU, YOU WOULD LIKE THE SIDEWALK TO BE WIDER IN FRONT OF BUILDING SEVEN AND THE STAFF WOULD LIKE THE AREA IN THE BACK TO BE INCREASED.
CAN'T YOU JUST TAKE THREE FEET OUT OF THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING? WE CAN.
I, UM, THAT OBVIOUSLY CROSSED OUR MIND.
I WOULD ALSO JUST TELL YOU, WE'RE CLONE WITH OUR FINGERNAILS FOR EVERY INCH HERE.
JUST NOBODY'S BUILT A MORE EXPENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PER FOOT IN DUBLIN.
I COULD ALMOST ASSURE YOU THE, UM, IIII, I LIKED WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AT THE BACKSIDE OF BUILDING SIX AND PRESENT A FRONT TO THE PEOPLE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT WHO ARE COMING THAT WAY.
UM, WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT IN THE BACKS OF BUILDINGS FOUR AND FIVE? THERE WAS, I JUST THINK THAT THE PUBLIC STREET NATURE AND THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM WATERFORD VILLAGE, WE WANT TO HAVE THAT BA SOMETHING TO LOOK AT TYPE OF THING.
VERSUS THE OTHER IS MORE UTILITARIAN BACK OF HOUSE SPACE.
AND MY, MY LAST QUESTION FOR THE MOMENT, AND KIM KNOWS WHAT I'M GONNA ASK.
THE, UM, IF YOU GO TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND YOU LOOK AT GO ON THE WEBSITE, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT COMES UP IS IT SAYS IT'S THE MOST SUSTAINABLE, CONNECTED AND RESILIENT GLOBAL CITY OF CHOICE.
AND WE KNOW SUSTAINABILITY IS AN IMPORTANT GOAL OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN YOU BUILD A BIG HEAT ISLAND, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE, HOW, HOW ARE YOU, UM, ADVANCING THE GOAL OF SUSTAINABILITY IN THIS PROJECT? I HEAR YOU ON THE HEAT ISLAND COMMENT.
UM, I WOULD TELL YOU ON THE SUSTAINABILITY FRONT, WE'RE CREATING A WALKABLE, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR THE PEOPLE OF WATERFORD VILLAGE AND FOR THE PEOPLE OF DUBLIN, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WALKED TO, TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, TO HERE, TO WATERFORD VILLAGE, AND TO HAVE PEOPLE COME HERE, PARK THEIR CAR AND GET OUT AND WALK AROUND.
SO ON YOUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMENT, I WOULD SAY THAT OUR BIGGEST PUSH IS, UH, WALKABILITY AND CLOSENESS.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, GEOTHERMAL HEAT OR SOLAR PANELS, WE, WE, WE CAN'T GO TO THOSE LEVELS AT THIS POINT.
EVEN EVEN PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, WHICH WOULD MIGHT HELP YOU WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT COVER ISSUES.
SO WE'VE USED PERVIOUS PAVEMENT BEFORE AND UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.
THE, THE COSTS ARE, ARE, ARE HIGHER, UM, MORE THAN STORM DETENTION OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS HAVE TOLD US.
THOSE ARE MY INITIAL QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS FROM BOTH, THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL HERE.
UM, I WAS FAIRLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT'S FIRST GENERATION, AND SOME OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, SO I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT HERE.
BUT I WILL SAY, UM, I I GUESS FIRST JUST TO ESTABLISH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REDUCING THE BUFFER ON THE CEMETERY SIDE, YOU HAD YOUR BREAST OUT.
DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY SPECIFIC NUMBER OF TREES THAT, THAT ARE LOST BASED ON THAT DIFFERENCE? IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE SPECIES.
WE HAVE A GIANT LIST THAT YOU CAN BARELY SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MAPLES THAT ARE THERE WILL, WILL DO WELL.
UH, THE BLACK WALNUTS WILL, WILL BE TOUGH.
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BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS OF THAT EAST WALL, UH, I GUESS IT'S THE EAST WALL OF THAT GARAGE THAT FACES THE CEMETERY.IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, WERE ALREADY FIGHTING FOR SPACE THERE.
IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU THINK THAT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU COULD REPLACE TREES.
HOW DO YOU SEE, I DO SEE THAT AS IMPACTFUL FROM THE CEMETERY SIDE.
WHAT IDEAS HAVE YOU GUYS HAD TO KIND OF SCREEN OR MITIGATE THAT AS STEPH IS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE EXCITED TO COME BACK ON AN AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH, WITH A REAL RENDERING TO MAKE THAT SHOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, WOULD YOU AGREE FOR THE NEED AT LEAST? YEAH, YEAH.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE A BRICK WALL THERE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE A, A 12 MONTH IV UP.
WE WANT TO HAVE, UH, A LANDSCAPE PLAN ON THAT AREA THAT CREATES A SOFTNESS THERE.
BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I THINK WE'RE, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO TOE THE LINE BETWEEN A, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACADES TO MAKE THE BUILDING FEEL LIKE IT WAS BUILT OVER TIME, UM, TO, TO MR. ALEXANDER'S POINT.
BUT YOU CAN RUN REALLY CLOSELY INTO THIS DISNEYLAND, UM, FEEL REALLY QUICK THAT IT FEELS KIND OF CHINTZY, UM, WHEN IT'S TOO MUCH THAT IS NOT UTILITARIAN, THAT IS NOT USEFUL, I SHOULD SAY, WHEN THE FACADE CHANGES THAT IT'S ONLY FOR SHOW OUR FACADE CHANGES, UH, CHANGES AT TENANT DEMISING WALLS.
SO THERE'S A REAL REASON THEY'RE THERE, UH, TO GIVE THAT TENANT A SPECIFIC IDENTITY.
THE GARAGE, THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY REASON FOR A CHANGE.
AND I THINK ONE THING THAT WE FOUND IN THE SHORT NORTH AND A LOT OF OTHER HISTORIC DISTRICTS IS THE AMOUNT OF ONE MATERIAL USED ON A BUILDING IS IMMENSE.
RIGHT? I THINK THERE'S THIS WHOLE PUSH IN ARCHITECTURE NOW, AND I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT.
I I'M A LAWYER, SO I DON'T QUOTE ME HERE, BUT JUST SO MUCH NEED FOR ARTICULATION AND DIFFERENT MATERIALS, AND IF WE'RE IN THIS HISTORIC TRANSITION DISTRICT, THE NEED FOR ONE MATERIAL CAN BE PRETTY POWERFUL WHEN IT'S LANDSCAPE CORRECTLY.
THAT WAS NOT THE QUESTION YOU ASKED AT ALL, BUT I KIND OF
UM, I GUESS I'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE DELIBERATION ON THAT PROBABLY, BUT, UM, UH, JUST ONE QUESTION I GUESS FOR STAFF.
DID I THINK IF I RECALL, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT CIRCULATION, FIRE CIRCULATION.
UM, IS THAT, HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS PLAN OR AM I MISREMEMBERING THAT EMERGENCY PEOPLE? YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, FOR, FOR THE MOST PART, I, THEY'RE ADDRESSED.
I THINK THE FIRE MARSHAL WANTED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S STANDPIPE AND SOME OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS IN THE BUILDINGS.
AND THEN SIMILARLY ON STORMWATER, BUT I SAW THAT LIST AS SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANNA WORK WITH THEM ON.
SO YEAH, WE, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BOTH OF YOU APPRECIATE IT.
AND, UM, HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THE PARKING STILL TO ME FEELS HEAVY ALONG THE STREET, AND WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE HORIZONTAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, JUST PARKING, UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE STRAIGHT IN PARKING REALLY IS TAKING AWAY FROM THAT LOOK OF WHAT DUBLIN HAS, WHERE IT'S LIKE THE STREET PARKING AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S INTERFACED.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT JUST TAKING A COUPLE OF THOSE AND MAKING 'EM MORE OF A STREET PARKING LOOK, UH, BEHIND BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO? YEAH, I WOULD SAY, YEAH.
SO I SEE IT ALONG THE STREET, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET INTO THE, THE STRETCH HERE BEFORE, THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NO CARS.
I THINK THAT SEEMS TO ME, UH, PRETTY HEAVY.
AND THAT IDEA, WHICH COULD BE MORE OF A STREET PARKING LOOK, UM, I GET IT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET, WHEN YOU MOVE IT INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER AREAS LOOKS LIKE A PARKING LOT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THERE ARE AREAS THAT TO ME, UM, HEAD IN PARKING SEEMS TO BE, MAKES IT LOOK A BIT HEAVY.
IT ALSO TAKES AWAY FROM THE LOOK OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DUBLIN WITH, WITH THIS KIND OF, UH, PROJECT.
WE, WE, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
WE, WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH THIS FROM A BUSINESS USE CASE.
UM, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CAPTURE, UH, A QUICK SERVICE USER AND A QUICK, UH, CUSTOMER.
UM, THESE HEAD-END PARKING SPACES, RETAILERS GO CRAZY FOR 'EM.
I BROUGHT UP THIS EXAMPLE LAST TIME, IT'S CALLED TEASER PARKING.
WE'RE LIKE NORTH STAR CAFE IN THE SHORT NORTH, I ASSUME MOST OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN THERE.
YOU GO THERE AND PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, I'LL PARK IN THE PARKING LOT THERE.
THERE'S NINE SPACES IN A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT.
BUT ONCE YOU'RE THERE, YOU HAVE THIS VISION OF EASY PARKING AND IT'S ABLE TO GO IN.
SO THERE'S A LARGE BUSINESS CASE BEHIND IT, BUT WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS TO CURTAIL THE, YOU CAN SEE THAT ALONG MONTEREY, WE'VE TRIED TO EXTEND THE BUILDINGS OUT TO HIDE THAT PARKING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THERE.
SO THERE'S LITTLE JUT OUTS BEHIND BUILDING ONE AND TWO, AND THEN ON TOP OF BUILDING SEVEN AND ON TOP OF BUILDING THREE.
SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CREATE THESE, HIDE THEM FROM THE, THE,
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UH, PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHILE ALSO TELLING 'EM THAT IF YOU NEED TO GET IN AND OUT, HERE'S SOME PARKING.SO, I I, YOUR COMMENT'S WELL TAKEN, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO IT THOUGH.
MAY I ASK THE CITY ALSO, UM, WHEN, WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LIBRARY AND THEIR PARKING OVER THAT, UH, OVER THERE, AND WE WANT WALKABILITY, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG STRETCH TO SAY, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO PARK OVER THERE AND I MAY WANDER A COUPLE DIFFERENT AREAS BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY SHOULD BE A WALKABLE AREA.
UH, DO WE FEEL THAT THEY COULD TAKE ON SOME OF THIS, UM, UH, LIKE I SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE PARKING OVER THERE AND THEN WALKING THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO STICK SOLELY IN THAT ONE AREA.
THE, THE LONG TERM VISION, AGAIN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT CORRIDOR STUDY THAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT THE WHOLE AREA WOULD BECOME MORE WALKABLE.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET THERE, BUT, UH, I THINK WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, EVEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT NOBODY RIGHT NOW, UH, THEY, THEY DON'T, THE SCHOOLS DON'T GET A SINGLE PEDESTRIAN STUDENT GOING TO THOSE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY BRIDGE STREET IS INTIMIDATING AT THIS POINT.
IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE PLANNING THAT WE ARE DOING, THEN YES, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD PARK AT THE LIBRARY AND WALK HERE, OR PEOPLE WOULD PARK HERE AND WALK TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE PROMOTING THOSE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS IN ADDITION TO HOPEFULLY IMPROVING THE WIDTHS OF THE SIDEWALKS AND MAKING THE CROSSWALKS MORE COMFORTABLE.
I, I WOULD SAY, IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF SURFACE PARKING THAT THEY'RE SHOWING HERE RELATIVE TO MOST DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE SEE, AND AS MR. POOL MENTIONED WITH THE BUMPER OF THE BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THOSE DETAILS, WE, WE DO THINK THAT WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS REASONABLE, AND ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE, BECAUSE IF YOU DO PARALLEL PARKING WITH THE DEAD END STREET, IT BECOMES VIRTUALLY UNUSABLE.
SO WE, WE DO THINK THAT THE COMBINATION OF SOME OF THE THREE GRATES AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER DETAILS, IF WE CAN ADD THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS TO THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, APPROPRIATE.
I WAS ALSO THINKING, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE CONSULTANTS THAT'S COME TO THE AREA AND TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BRIDGE STREET AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND IT SURE SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDING, UM, BIKE PATHS WOULD, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
IT'S ALMOST SO ARE WE PUTTING OURSELVES, UH, IN A BOX BY NOT INCORPORATING, UM, BIKE PATHS WITHIN THIS JUST LIKE IT WOULD MIMIC AND LOOK LIKE ON BRIDGE STREET? SO THAT, THAT ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS BECAUSE AT ONE POINT IN THE PAST WE TALKED ABOUT A SHARED USE PATH ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF MONTEREY DRIVE.
UM, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER.
WE TRY TO PRESERVE TREES, WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIANS.
WE ARE, UH, TRY SO I THINK WE HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL AT THIS POINT THAT IF, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN HAVING MODERATE DRIVE BEING SLOW, PEOPLE ARE NOT SPEEDING THROUGH THERE.
THAT ACCOMMODATING THE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF.
AND THEN ALONG BRIT STREET, WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TIE INTO THE SIGNATURE TRAIL AND THE OTHER PATH THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE PLANKS, UH, OF THE SIGHTING YOU'VE CHOSE CHOSEN AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S LIKE A FOUR INCH, UM, SIDING TYPE.
AND I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU DIDN'T GO WITH THE SEVENTH INCH.
I THINK OF A HISTORIC, IT'S MORE OF A THICKER LOOK WIDER.
IF I'M WRONG THEN HELP ME THROUGH THIS, BUT THAT'S WHAT KIND OF HIT ME WITH THAT.
SO IT, IT, IT IS FOUR INCH, UM, RIGHT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH BASSAM.
WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, LAY IT UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT CREATES THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE, I'M GONNA SORT OF THE BEVELED TYPE THAT FITS UNDER THE OTHER PIECE, BUT IT'S GONNA BE FLAT STOCKED THAT SITS ON TOP OF IT.
COULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? UH, ABBY STEYERS, 2 2 9 0 OLD STONE ROAD, BLACK LAKE.
UM, THE SIDING PRODUCT THAT WE'VE SELECTED, UM, WE'RE NOT USING ANY OF THE HARDY AS LIKE A SIDING PRODUCT.
WE'RE ONLY USING THAT IN FLAT AREAS WITH APPLIED TRIM.
WHAT WE'RE USING FOR THE SIDING IS LIKE A BOAL ASH PRODUCT, SO IT LASTS LONGER AND IT IS A TRUE LIKE ALMOST THREE QUARTER THICKNESS OR FIVE EIGHTHS, WHICH IS STANDARD WHERE YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL WOOD PRODUCT.
AND WE'RE SELECTING A SIZE THAT ACTUALLY IS A HISTORICALLY CORRECT, WHICH IS USUALLY FOUR INCH, SOMETIMES FIVE, UM, DIFFERENT DECADES USE DIFFERENT SIZES.
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THAT'S, UM, CLOSER TO WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.FOR, I, I WOULD ADD THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THE ARCHITECTURE DETAILS, I THINK WE'LL HAVE ACTUAL MATERIAL SAMPLES.
WE, WE GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, AND THOSE PROFILES DO LOOK LIKE THEY WOULD FIT IN WITH THE, UH, HISTORIC, THIS.
I THINK YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LEVEL TYPES AND MM-HMM
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE BUFFERING.
HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND AND WHAT THAT, WHAT, HOW WE CAN HELP MITIGATE THAT? UH, YEAH.
SO, UM, WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH, I, I KEEP REFERRING TO THE SHORT NORTH, I'M SORRY, BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS IN THE SHORT NORTH, THAT THERE ARE BAD OWNERS AND BAD LA UH, USERS, UH, WHO ARE BLASTING USING UP TILL TWO 30 IN THE MORNING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING HERE OPEN LATE, AND WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS OF EXTERIOR SPEAKERS.
UM, WE DON'T LIKE THEM, UH, IN TERMS OF ANYTHING BEYOND A SMALL THING TO REALLY SET A VIBE THAT CAN ONLY BE HEARD IN YOUR KIND OF DOOR SPACE.
SO WE WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT, THAT'LL GO INTO LEASES AND, UH, WE'RE PRETTY STRINGENT ABOUT THAT, I GUESS I WAS JUST THINKING ALSO JUST ABOUT REGULAR NOISE, PEOPLE TRAVELING, WALKING, CARS, MOVING YEAH.
NOT BAD ACTORS AND SO FORTH, BUT, UM, ANY KIND OF LIKE, UH, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PLANTS AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, THE BIG, LIKE REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE BUFFERING AREA.
SO I, I THINK THAT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE PLANTS WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE, WE'RE INSTALLING AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP MM-HMM
ARE GONNA DO A LOT OF THAT HEAVY LIFTING.
AND THEN THE CITY, AS THEY BUILD THEIR PLAN, I'M SURE THAT WILL INCLUDE LARGE TREES AS WELL TO KIND OF CREATE THAT ADDITIONAL BUFFER.
AND ABBY, I ASSUME, HASN'T SEEN HER CHILDREN IN SEVERAL WEEKS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, SO WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, OF HER AND HER TIME.
UM, SO, BUT, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS.
SO ON THE PARKING PIECE, SO ZONE D IS NOT PART OF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING, OR IT IS BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE CO PARKING COUNT TOTAL.
BUT NOW, BUT YOU, I MIGHT HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT DID YOU SAY WE'RE NOT, IT'S AGNOSTIC OF THIS REVIEW? IF SO, PD IS PART OF THE PARKING PLANT AS PARKING SPACE.
SO THAT, THAT MAY MAKE IT A WHOLE, SORRY.
UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE ABSTRACT.
IF, IF THEY DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OF THAT SITE, IF, IF THE CURRENT OWNER WAS STILL GONNA OWN IT, AND IF THEY WERE TO GO AND TALK TO THAT OWNER AND SAY WE'D LIKE TO DO A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT, THE CODE ALLOWS FOR THAT.
AND SO, UM, THEY, THEY COULD HAVE, UH, AS, AS LONG AS THEY ACCOMMODATE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUILDING ON AN ADJACENT PARCEL, THE CODE DOES ALLOW FOR CHEAP PARKING AGREEMENTS.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, WHILE WE ARE NOT LOOKING YET AT THE PLAN FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE, THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING EXPANDING THE PARKING.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN TERMS OF ZONE D IS THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE, WHICH IS THE 57 SPACES.
SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT APPROACH.
THE NUMBER MAY END UP BEING A LITTLE LESS THAN 57 BY THE TIME WE LOOK AT THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO PART OF THE 4 76 INCLUDES, INCLUDES THOSE 57, THE 57, OR SOME SORT OF SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT PARCEL, BECAUSE THAT HOW THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT'S LAID ON THE ZONE D LOOKS JUST IS BIZARRE.
IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S JUST PASTED ON AND, AND IT'S TOTALLY NOT THOUGHT OUT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT, WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO IN, IN THIS CONCEPT IS THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO CIRCULATE THROUGH THAT AND USE THAT DRIVE EYE.
SO YOU WOULD ACCESS IT FROM HERE AND FROM HERE.
AGAIN, WE, WE WILL LOOK AT THOSE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THE MAXIMUM IS 57.
WE, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC DETAILS.
SO WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY, WE'RE PARKED APPROPRIATELY.
WE'RE NOT OVER PARKED, WE'RE NOT UNDER PARKED IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO WE, YES.
I, I THINK WHAT, WHAT I'M SAYING IS EVEN IF THE NUMBERS END UP BEING A LITTLE BIT LESS, THE TOTALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND AND HOW THAT WORKS, WE ARE COMFORTABLE THAT THE PARKING, THE INTENT OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS MET PERFECT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ZONE D FOR THE LAYOUT.
IT'S THE PRINCIPLE OF THOSE SPACES.
WE, WE WILL BA COME BACK FOR THAT.
SORRY, BASSEM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE, THE PARKING NUMBERS ALSO INCLUDE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE QUILT SHOP? CORRECT.
SO THAT'S COVERED IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO USE THAT BUILDING.
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THIS PLAN? YES.AND THEN THE ALONG THE SAME, WHY, WHY THEY HAVE THIS UP? BASIM, YOU MENTIONED IT TOO.
UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WAS THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WHEN THEY PARK AND ACCESS, YOU KIND OF GLOSSED OVER THAT.
IS THAT, IS THAT BEING ADDRESSED? ARE WE, CAN WE INCREASE THAT? 'CAUSE IT IS GONNA BE A PINCH POINT, I THINK FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE, THAT BUILDING.
I, I, I THINK THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES.
WE, WE HAVE NOT, UH, COMPLETELY ADDRESSED THOSE, BUT I THINK THESE ARE ONES THAT WE FEEL WE COULD, UM, WORK THROUGH.
UH, POTENTIALLY, AND I, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR OPTIONS THAT YOU MAY BE CONSIDERING, BUT, BUT WHETHER THOSE DOORS GET RECESSED INTO, UM, INTO THE BUILDING RATHER THAN BEING ON THE OUTSIDE LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS.
AND THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY OF LOSING ONE SPACE HERE TO ACCOMMODATE LANDSCAPING AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
SO, UH, DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WORK TOWARDS IT.
WE'RE STILL, STILL WORKING THROUGH IT, SO IT'S NOT, YES.
AND THEN, UM, SORRY, I STILL PICKING ON YOU FOR A SECOND.
SO THE, THE, THE, I'M GONNA FLIP OVER THE FACADE MATERIALS.
IT IS NOTED THAT WE'RE DEVIATING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE, UM, FIBER CEMENT PANELS, THE COMPOSITE SITING THE STUCCO AND, AND SO, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A NOTE IN THERE THAT SAYS MOST OF THESE MATERIALS.
WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES MOST MEAN? DOES THAT MEAN THEY'VE ALL BEEN SUCCESSFUL? WE REVIEWED 'EM ALL.
SO STUCCO HAS NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BEEN APPROVED.
IRONICALLY, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR STUCCO ON A BUILDING THAT ALREADY HAS SOME STUCCO FROM THE PAST.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY STUCCO HAS NOT RECENTLY BEEN PROPOSED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
SO WHEN I SAY MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED, I'M JUST REFERRING TO THE RECORD OF WHAT WE'VE HAD RECENTLY.
UH, TERRACOTTA OR CLAY TILE OR SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE, UH, NOT ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, BUT THE COMPOSITE SIDING IN CERTAIN AREAS, UH, WHEN IT WASN'T AT EYE LEVEL.
AND FIBER CEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED AS, UH, PERMITTED MATERIAL.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER, THERE'S A, SORRY TO INTERRUPT THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMPOSITE FIBER CEMENT IN THESE BUILDINGS AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE, THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED IN THE CITY'S, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE, THOSE MATERIALS.
UM, AND THEN ONE, SORRY, ONE FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO THE, THE PARAPET HEIGHT ON THE GARAGE, THE TOP FLOOR OF THE GARAGE, IS IT, AND I MIGHT NOT READ THE DRAWINGS CORRECTLY, BUT IS IT 4, 4 6? IS, IS THE HEIGHT? FOUR SIX IS THE HEIGHT.
SO WILL YOU, MY QUESTION, WHEN CARS ARE PARKED ON THAT LEVEL, WILL YOU SEE CARS WHEN YOU'RE IN THE CEMETERY ABOVE THAT? NO.
I CAN'T, I, I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
SO THEY STILL FIT IN THE GARAGE AND BE FOUR SIX UP THAT, UP THAT HIGH.
SO THEY WOULD BE TOTALLY, YEAH, YOU WON'T, YOU WON'T SEE CARS ON THE ROOF TOP POSITION.
MS. DAMER, I JUST NEED A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS AND I THINK I'LL BE OKAY.
UM, THE IS, SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT I'M RIGHT ON THIS.
YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THE TREE REPLACEMENT PLAN AND WE'LL BE SEEING THAT WHEN YOU COME FOR THE AMENDED.
SO, UM, THE TREE REPLACEMENT PLAN, WE'RE UP, WE'RE GOING TO, ON THE AMENDED, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT THE TREE REPLACEMENT PLAN ISN'T GONNA BE CHANGING ALL THAT MUCH.
SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET.
UM, AND CAN YOU CONFIRM, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, THE LESSEES WILL DETERMINE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING, MEANING EACH ONE BECAUSE YOU SAY I WANT THEM TO BE DISTINCT YEAH.
SO CAN YOU JUST GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN FOR ME? SO WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME WHERE WE HAVE THIS FEELING OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
A TENANT WILL LOVE IT, BUT EVERY TIME A TENANT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING TO THE STOREFRONT OR CHANGE SOMETHING, THEY WILL COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU.
UM, BUT THEY WILL HAVE A, WE WILL HAVE A KIND OF, UM, AN APPROVAL PROCESS THROUGH US AND THROUGH THE THIS COMMISSION TO, IF A TENANT WANTS TO MAKE IT THEIR OWN, THEY CAN.
UH, I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN THAT MR. ALEXANDER DID ABOUT IT SEEM SEEMING LONG AND NO DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN, UM, SET OFFS AND COLOR.
UM, BUT YES, I ALSO HEAR THE CONCERN ABOUT MAKING FEELING LIKE DISNEYLAND.
SO WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT YOU WILL, WHEN YOU WORK WITH YOUR TENANTS TO DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES, WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND MM-HMM
AND NOT MAKE IT ONE MONOLITH, SAME COLOR, SAME
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YES.AND I, I WOULD, WE, WE DEFINITELY WILL.
AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, UM, ON A, A DEVELOPMENT REALLY AS SMALL AS OURS TO HAVE, UH, AS MANY DIFFERENT MATERIALS WE'VE HAD, WE HAVE IT, IT, IT'S A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT'S GONE INTO THIS.
I, I THINK MR. AL OH, I CAN TELL.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT.
UM, I JUST, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND A LITTLE MORE OUT THERE.
SO I THINK THERE, THERE'S ARTICULATION ON A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT, UM, BUILDING SEVEN I, I THINK IS SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AT MR. ALEX INTERVENTION.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE CHANGES.
I KNOW I WAS ONE OF THE ONES WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRANSITION FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO THE KROGER AREA AND IT DIDN'T SEEM ENOUGH TO BE REFLECTING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED THAT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
UM, SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T THINK I ORGANIZED THEM THAT WELL.
UM, ON THE, THE COURTYARD, ONE OF THE CHANGES I SAW THAT YOU MADE IS THAT YOU'VE PRIVATIZED THE CORNERS THAT ARE ALONG MONTEREY, MEANING THEY'RE OUTDOOR DINING AREAS THAT ARE PRIVATE AND MM.
THE PREVIOUS PLANT KIND OF HAD LIKE A NICE LITTLE SHOPPING EDGE AROUND THE, BUT NOW YOU'VE PRIVATIZED BOTH CORNERS NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO IT ALL OF A SUDDEN DISRUPTS THAT WHOLE.
IS THAT, WAS THAT THE INTENT? I MEAN, NO.
OR WHAT WHAT NO, JUST THAT, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE RATIONALE FOR THAT? UH, I, I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING VERY ELOQUENT HERE.
THIS, THIS WAS NEVER THE INTENT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FELL UNDER THE PAGE.
WE HAVE A, A, A DIFFERENT PLAN, UM, THAT I, I THINK YOUR TEAM WILL BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE COME BACK.
UM, UM, BA BA THE, SORRY, JUST THE PLAN IS RELATIVELY THE SAME.
JUST THOSE PATIOS ARE ADJUSTED.
AGAIN, I WAS SEEING A, A DIFFERENT VIBE THEN TO THE WHOLE SQUARE WHEN YOU DO THAT.
UM, THE RENDERING SHOW A LOT OF LIKE OUTDOOR TABLES ALONG 1 61, BUT THERE'S NO SPACE ALLOCATED FOR OUTDOOR DINING.
WHAT WAS YOUR THINKING ABOUT BUILDING ONE AND TWO IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE STREET? SO WE'VE TALKED WITH BASSAM AND THERE'S A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD ABOUT A SIDEWALK DINING LEASE ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THE SIDEWALK IS ENORMOUS AND THERE'S, THERE'S ROOM, UH, OUT THERE, UM, FOR THAT BETWEEN, SO BETWEEN THE, THE BUILDING LINE AND THE PLANTER.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE, ONCE THOSE DETAILS ARE FINALIZED AND WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW WIDE THAT SIDEWALK IS GONNA BE WITH SOME OF THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS, AS LONG AS THERE IS ADEQUATE SIDEWALK WIDTH FOR PEOPLE TO COMFORTABLY WALK THROUGH, UM, THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, WHICH WE'VE DONE ELSEWHERE.
UH, NOT VERY OFTEN, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE APPROACHES.
WE WILL FINALIZE THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE DETAILS A LITTLE MORE.
'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT AS A COMMISSION WHERE WE'VE HAD TO, WE'VE HAD TO GIVE UP LANDSCAPE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO AVOID THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT THE SPACE NEEDED.
UM, IF THAT'S YOUR ATTENTION TO HAVE OUTDOOR DINING THERE, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S CORRECT.
AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON IT? YES.
UM, I'M GONNA SHIFT TO THE GARAGE.
UM, UH, THE, THE A, THE A DA PARKING IN THE GARAGE SEEMS VERY SPORADIC AND NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
HAS THAT PLAN BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH? UH, LIKE YOU HAVE A DA PARKING BY THE STAIRS AS OPPOSED TO BY THE ELEVATOR AND THAT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME A DA CHALLENGES AT THE NORTH END OF THE BUILDING WITH THE GRADES.
UM, BUT WE DID HAVE AN A DA SPOT NEAR WHAT WOULD BE AN OFFICE ENTRANCE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
SO IF SOMEBODY WOULD COME UP THE RAMP THAT COULD PARK BY THE OFFICE, THAT'S WHY ONE OF THEM WAS BY THE STAIR.
AND THEN, BUT WE'VE REMOVED SOME OF THE OTHERS.
UM, I GUESS I WANT TO, UM, GO BACK TO THE ISSUE WITH THE GARAGE AND THE, THE TREES.
AND I'M, I GUESS I'M GONNA BE MORE GENERAL.
SO THE, THE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE E EXISTING TREES THAT ARE GETTING SAVED ON THE EAST SIDE AND THEN AROUND
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THE EXISTING HOUSE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S LIKE ALMOST NO ROOM.AND I THINK YOU EVEN SAID YOUR ARBOR SAID YOU NEEDED LIKE 60 FEET AND YOU CAN'T GIVE THAT UP.
SO I JUST WAS CURIOUS FOR SOME SPECIES.
I WAS CURIOUS IN AN EFFORT TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE TREES IF YOU THOUGHT OF DOING SOMETHING, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, THERE'S SYSTEMS THAT YOU CAN PUT IN THAT ALLOW ROOT GROWTH AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT MIGHT REALLY HELP THOSE TREES SURVIVE.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE MINUTE YOU START, WELL THE GARAGE IS ONE THING YOU'RE PUTTING IN FOOTINGS FOR THE GARAGE, YOU'RE GONNA BE CUTTING DOWN INTO ROOTS AND YOU'RE GONNA BE LIKE REALLY MESSING WITH THEM.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S SYSTEMS THAT YOU CAN PUT IN THAT ALLOW ROOT GROWTH.
UM, AND SO I JUST, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF SYSTEMS IN TERMS OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE GARAGE AND THEN ALSO ALONG THE, UM, THE WEST SIDE WHERE THE HOUSE IS? YEAH, NO.
UM, YES, THE, UH, THE, THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE, THE, MY PRESENTATION, SHE, SHE HAD LAID OUT AS KIND OF A, A RIGHT PROTOCOL WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE TREES WITHIN THAT DISTANCE.
SO WE WOULD TRY TO EMULATE THAT EVERYWHERE.
AND, AND, AND BACK TO MR. ALEXANDER'S POINT, THAT IF YOU TOOK FIVE FEET OUT OF THE BUILDING, YOU COULD MOVE EVERYTHING OVER AND, AND PROVIDE MORE SPACE FOR THOSE TREES.
SO, I MEAN, YOUR BUILDING WIDTHS ARE ALL DIFFERENT WIDTHS.
THERE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A, LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO MEET SOME KIND OF SPECIFIC DEPTH BECAUSE OF, OF THAT'S WHAT RETAILERS WANT OR RESTAURANTS WANT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST BY SHIFTING BUILDING EDGES BY A LITTLE BIT, YOU CAN PICK UP MORE ROOM ALONG THE EDGES THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO GET TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE TREES.
UM, I WOULD ALSO JUST POINT TO THAT, JUST SENSE OF, UM, IF WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THESE STEPS, AND ARBOR IS SAYING THAT 15 TO 18 FEET IS REALLY NOMINAL WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE TREE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS ENVIRONMENT WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERY INCH WE CAN OF THAT BUILDING FOR LEASEABLE SPACE HERE.
AND IT IS IN KIND OF A GOOD SWEET SPOT WHERE IT SITS AS OF TODAY.
I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY WE NEED THAT 18 INCHES OR IF IT'S NOT GONNA LEASE, BUT WE DO NEED IT FOR THE INCOME.
I, I WALKED THE SITE THE OTHER DAY AND THERE'S SOME BEAUTIFUL TREES ON THAT SITE AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY MAKE THEIR BE GONE BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IF WE CAN SAVE TREES, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE EDGES, YOU KNOW, AND BACK TO THE POINT OF TREE REPLACEMENT, IF WE, IF WE CAN'T PLANT A LOT OF NEW TREES, THEN HOW DO WE REALLY HELP TO SAVE THE ONES THAT WE CAN ALONG THE EDGE? EVERYTHING'S GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT IF YOU CAN SAVE TREES.
SO THAT, THAT IS FULLY OUR GOAL AS WELL.
UM, I, UH, THE OTHER, UH, COMMENT, I I, I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION TO STAFF FIRST BECAUSE IT'S GNAWING ON ME.
SO THE WAIVERS THAT WE'RE GIVING OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVERS FOR THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING, 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A BREAK, BUT YOU COULD MOVE THE, LIKE ON BUILDING ONE, YOU COULD MOVE THE, THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONNECTION THROUGH, YOU COULD MOVE IT OVER AND THEN YOU WOULDN'T NEED A WAIVER
IS THAT RIGHT? AND THE SAME WITH BUILDING SEVEN TOO.
YOU COULD MOVE THAT, THAT CONNECTION TO THE GARAGE TO THE NORTH AND THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE WAIVER FOR THE LENGTH.
IS THAT, SO WITH, WITH BUILDING ONE, IT'S SUCH A MARGINAL, I MEAN IT'S 1 61 VERSUS ONE 50.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW THE SPACE IS ORGANIZED, WE, AT LEAST FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, WE DID NOT THINK BUILDING ONE NECESSARILY WARRANTED TOO MUCH DISCUSSION.
I THINK ORIGINALLY WE WERE HOPING THAT POTENTIALLY BUILDING TWO COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF A BREAK, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE GIVEN THE WIDTH OF THAT BLOCK.
UM, BUILDING SEVEN IS, UH, TRYING TO CREATE THAT EDGE ALONG THE STREET.
SO IT SEEMED LIKE WHERE THE PLAZA IS SHOWN AND THAT BEING THE ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE, IT MADE SENSE.
SO ULTIMATELY IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN DO WE GO BACK TO, UH, STEP ONE IN TERMS OF HOW THE PROPORTIONS OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES ARE, OR IS IT CLOSE ENOUGH THAT IT'S COMFORTABLE? AND I THINK WE CONCLUDED THAT THAT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH.
YEAH, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT THAT IF WE, IT'D BE NICE NOT TO HAVE TO DO WAIVERS IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SOME MOVES THAT COULD HELP THAT.
SO, SO YOU ALSO SET ME UP FOR, UH, BUILDING TWO.
THIS IS BACK TO THE APPLICANT, UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE, A MIDBLOCK CONNECTION IN THERE.
UM, THE EAST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING, IT THAT ABUTS THE CEMETERY SEEMS TO BE A LOGICAL PLACE FOR A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO 1 61 WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM THE EAST.
AND YOU, YOU, THE FACADE OF THAT BUILDING ON THE EAST IS REALLY NICE.
YOU ARTICULATE IT REALLY WELL, BUT IT'S JUST LANDSCAPE.
AND IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A WALKWAY THAT CAME IN THERE THAT COULD BE, UH, AGAIN, GET OVER THAT ISSUE OF
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THESE SECONDARY BREAKS IN THE BUILDING.AND THE SAME IS ON THE WEST SIDE TOO, OF BUILDING ONE UP AGAINST THE GAS STATION.
IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY AS PART OF A LANDSCAPE ELEMENT TO BRING PEOPLE IN? SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS FROM 1 61 AT KIND OF KEY EDGES TO THE PROJECT Y? YEAH.
SO WOULD, WOULD THE COMMISSION BE SUPPORTIVE ON BUILDING TWO OF THE SIDEWALK BEING IN THE BUFFER AREA? I, I WOULD, I MEAN, I THINK THE SIDEWALK IS PART OF THE BUFFER, BUT IT IS PART OF THE BUFFER.
BUT YEAH, I, I, WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TOO.
AND I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO GO AGAINST WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD SOLVE, THAT WOULD A, A ADDRESS AN ISSUE.
AND I THINK IT WOULD ALSO ADDRESS AN ISSUE WITH BUILDING ONE ABOUT PROVIDING MORE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN 1 61.
AND DAN, YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, IF I CAN JUMP ON THERE.
DO YOU MEAN JUST, JUST DROWN BUILDING TWO, NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
NO, I DON'T WANNA DO ALL JUST ALONG THE EAST.
AND THAT'S THE SAME AREA WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF CONSIDERING MAYBE MAKING AN ENTRANCE INTO THE, THE CEMETERY ANYWAY, IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY.
NO, THE CEMETERY ENTRANCE WE THINK WOULD BE BETTER WHERE THE, WHERE IT'S TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.
BUT I, I THINK THAT THE CONNECTING THE SIDEWALK BEHIND THE EAST SIDE OF BUILDING TWO TO 1 61 IS A GREAT IDEA ON BUILDING ONE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT HAIRIER BECAUSE OF THE OWNERSHIP THING, OR THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON THERE.
SO THERE'S AN EASEMENT THAT SITS IN THERE WITH THE GAS STATION AND THE QUILT SHOP.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, UM, UH, POWER ALONG THAT SIDE.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT BUILDINGS SET IN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TOO.
SO NOT SAYING WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOVE THE CONNECTIVITY, BUT WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT THAT CAN REALLY LOOK AND FEEL LIKE.
BECAUSE IF THE GAS STATION NEVER REDEVELOPS AND IT BECOMES ANOTHER BUILDING, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A BREAK THERE AND THERE'S GONNA BE A CONNECTION THAT COMES IN.
SO, BUT THE, MY MIND WAS REALLY ON BUILDING TWO AND I HAD THAT, THIS WHOLE NOTION OF CONNECTIVITY, BUT THEN I WAS LIKE, OH, WE COULD DO IT ON ONE TWO, BUT SO YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO THOSE? OH YEAH.
AGAIN, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE WAIVERS AND STUFF WE'RE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CON CONNECTIVITY, WE HAVE A WAIVER, BUT THAT WOULD PROVIDE, PROBABLY STILL HAVE TO HAVE A WAIVER, BUT IT WOULD PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT CONNECTIVITY.
I, I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT IDEA.
UM, AND THEN I, I GUESS I, I'M STILL CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY TO CORBIN'S MILL.
YOU'RE, YOU SUPPORT THAT WE SUPPORT IT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR A, UH, STRIPED CONNECTION THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.
UM, I, IT'S GONNA BE, WE CAN'T JUST LOSE A ROW OF PARKING FOR A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION OR ELSE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO FORWARD WITH THE, THE ACQUISITION.
IT'S UNDER CONTRACT CURRENTLY.
AND YOU CA UH, AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S TREES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE, SO YOU CAN'T SHIFT THE PARKING THAT, SO TO MR. CHINO'S POINT, WE WOULD'VE NOT LAID OUT THIS PARKING LOT THIS WAY TO BE CLEAR.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE A LOT OF THOSE TREES.
YEAH, THAT A ABOVE THE MRS. MOON'S HOUSE IS THAT AGAIN, THE CONNECT WHERE YOU HAVE THE DRIVE COMING IN FROM CORS MILLS WINDS UP WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH IS WHERE THE WALKWAY IN FRONT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER IS MM-HMM
AND SO YOU HAVE THIS JUST LOGICAL CONNECTIVITY, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE JUST FABULOUS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE, AGAIN, I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.
Y YEAH, I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO CREATING A PEDESTRIAN, UH, UH, WAYFINDING AND STRIPED PAVEMENT TO THAT AREA.
UM, I THINK IT'S JUST, IF, IF WE HAVE, LIKE, IF THE CENTER ROW BETWEEN THE PARKING, IT'S JUST GONNA BE HARD TO SATISFY LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND PUT A SIDEWALK THERE.
UM, SO I THINK ONE OF THOSE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT PERMISSION RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT AS LIKELY BUYERS OF THAT SITE, WE WOULD BE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, UH, THROUGH, UH, WORK IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE COMMISSION.
I MEAN, THAT ISSUE IN THE SCOPE OF OUR REMIT IS, YOU KNOW, GOING WAY BACK TO THE PLANNING FOR THIS AREA, THAT CONNECTION HAS BEEN IN THEREFORE AGES.
AND SO I THINK WE AS A COMMISSION WANT TO SEE THAT BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT THAT CONNECTIVITY THAT, AGAIN, BACK TO THE THREE, YOU KNOW, THE THREE THINGS THAT DUBLINS ALL FOCUSED ON CONNECTIVITY, THAT'S PART OF THAT CONNECTIVITY.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, DRAWING THIS DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT SHOP, THE SHOPPING CENTER, THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, I THINK THAT CONNECTIVITY IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO CONTINUE.
EXCUSE ME, WE'RE WE'RE THERE TOO.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND WHEN THAT PARCEL IS FULLY REDEVELOPED, IT WILL COMPLETELY HAPPEN AND YOU GUYS WILL BE THRILLED.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ALSO JUST NOT IN A POINT WHERE WE CAN DO SOME, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AREN'T ASKING FOR THIS.
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THE WAY TO CORBIN'S MILL.JUST, UM, WE'RE THAT'S GOTTA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, HOW MUCH WE'RE BUYING THAT FOR IS, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY HARD TO MAKE THAT WORK.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
AND THE FROM THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT ON THIS CASE? UH, PLEASE STEP UP TO THE DAAS STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I'M GLAD I WROTE THIS DOWN 'CAUSE IT'S GETTING LATE.
NICOLE SALVA, 3, 3 6 PEBBLE CREEK DRIVE.
UM, I REPRESENT THE WATERFORD VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, OVERALL I WILL SAY THAT A MAJORITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS STILL IN SUPPORT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, HOWEVER, THERE ARE STILL LARGE CONCERNS THAT ARE CENTERED AROUND THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND TRAFFIC IMPACT.
SO SINCE THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, MYSELF AND ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ON OUR BOARD MET WITH SEVERAL DUBLIN CITY STAFF MEMBERS TO DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.
UH, WE KNOW THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BRING A LOT OF ACTIVITY, UH, WITH THE TRAFFIC AND ALSO FOOT TRAFFIC.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SAFE CROSSINGS, JUST AS YOU GUYS ARE MENTIONING BEFORE.
AND WE THINK THAT THOSE ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL IN MAKING THIS SAFE FOR EVERYONE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE ATTENDING.
SO DURING THE STAFF MEETING THAT WE HAD, ONE OF OUR REQUESTS WAS TO HAVE A FLASHING STOP SIGN OR FLASHING, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT MONTEREY AND CLOVER COURT, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE CROSSWAY TO THE PARK, MONTEREY PARK.
SO NOT QUITE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S TECHNICALLY KIND OF IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THAT REQUEST WAS DEEMED, WAS NOT DEEMED WARRANTED AT THAT TIME, BUT THE CITY DID SUGGEST THAT THEY COULD INSTALL LIKE A HIGHLIGHTED, HIGHLY VISIBLE, UH, CROSSWALK AT THAT LOCATION.
SO WE APPRECIATED THAT OFFERING FROM THEM.
UM, HOWEVER WE THINK BOTH, UH, WOULD BE NECESSARY TO KEEP THAT AREA SAFE.
AS YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT WALKABILITY, WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VENTURE FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT, PROBABLY VISIT THE PARK, MAYBE EXPLORE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE.
SO WE REALLY THINK THAT BOTH WOULD MAKE IT, UH, EXTRA SAFE.
ALSO, WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE, BUT THAT IS OUR MAIN CROSS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE PARK.
OR AS WE HEAD DOWN TO HISTORIC DUBLIN, THAT STOP SIGN IS OPTIONAL FOR MANY THAT PASS THROUGH.
NOT EVEN THAT JUST RESIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORS CALL THE POLICE, THEY SIT THERE, OF COURSE EVERYONE STOPS WHEN THEY SEE A POLICE OFFICER SITTING THERE.
SO PEOPLE BLOW THROUGH THAT STOP SIGN.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO START COLLECTING VIDEO AND DATA SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY.
SO HOPEFULLY THESE REQUESTS FOR THE FLASHING SIGNS CAN BE WARRANTED.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
UH, WE JUST HAD A JULY 4TH KIDS BIKE PARADE AND CARS WERE LIKE DOWN MONTEREY AND CARS WERE GOING AROUND US AND LIKE TRYING TO SPEED BY.
SO PEOPLE ARE IN A HURRY, I GUESS, TO GET A CUT THROUGH TO GET TO WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING.
SO WE JUST REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE FOR EVERYONE VISITING AND ESPECIALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, ALSO IN THIS MEETING WE HAD REQUESTED, UM, AND BASSAM MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT A TRAFFIC DETERRENT.
AND THAT WOULD BE AS YOU EXIT MONTEREY SQUARE AND HEAD INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IT WOULD BE RIGHT AROUND WHERE THE TENNIS COURT'S FENCE IS.
AND WE PROVIDED A VISUAL DURING THIS MEETING.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A SMALL ROUNDABOUT THERE.
AND WE, WE HOPED WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VISUAL OF A ROUNDABOUT THAT IT WOULD KIND OF SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AS THEY HEAD INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD STOP AT THE STOP SIGN THAT I JUST MENTIONED EARLIER.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE, THE NEXT STREET THEY APPROACH.
UM, THE CITY DID TELL US THAT THEY DID NOT THINK THERE WAS ENOUGH SPACE THERE FOR THE SMALL ROUNDABOUT.
UH, SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH AND UM, WE ARE HOPING TO KIND OF GO BACK WITH MORE VISUALS TO PRESENT TO THE CITY AS OTHER OPTIONS.
BUT WE DO THINK A DETERRENT THERE IS KEY TO STOP TRAFFIC FROM JUST KIND OF CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BECAUSE WE DO EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN TO SOME DEGREE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON COMING UP WITH SOME SORT OF SOLUTION.
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LARGE STONE IDENTIFYING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD KIND OF BE LIKE, OH, WE'RE ENTERING A NEIGHBORHOOD.I WONDER IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT EXIT POINT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? JUST TO KIND OF PREVENT THAT.
AND THEN OUR LAST REQUEST WAS, UM, A SECONDARY EXIT.
UH, WE HAD SUGGESTED BEHIND THE TENNIS COURTS THERE'S A LOT OF BRUSH, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT WOULD'VE BEEN CLOSE TO THAT.
SO WE ARE HAPPY THAT, UM, THERE IS CONTRACT TO POTENTIALLY ACQUIRE THAT QUILT SHOP.
I DO HOPE THAT EXIT COULD HAPPEN IF THERE ISN'T A SECONDARY EXIT.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE VERY, OR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GONNA BE A CUT THROUGH FOR THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF ALL OF OUR CONCERNS RIGHT NOW.
UM, JUST THE TRAFFIC AND THE SAFETY.
WE ARE PART OF THE WALKABILITY THAT BASSEM MENTIONED.
SO WE HAVE SENT TO SURVEY OUT, BUT A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS DON'T FEEL SAFE WALKING.
THEY FEEL LIKE THE SIDEWALKS ARE VERY NARROW.
SO I'M GONNA PROVIDE THEM WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAD SINCE WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIX OF IT ALL.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP THOSE SAFETY IN MIND LIKE MOVING FORWARD AS THIS APPROVES.
I'M MARIANNE CLARK, 1 46 CORBIN'S MILL.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY OUR CONCERN ON CORBIN'S MILL IS THE SAME CONCERN THAT MONTEREY HAS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THE CUT THROUGH IN, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND THAT WE DO HAVE CHILDREN AND ELDERLY PEOPLE AND OUR SIDEWALKS ARE CLOSE TO THE STREET.
SO IF YOU CAN MAKE THE CUT THROUGH A RIGHT TURN ONLY UP TO BRIDGE STREET, THAT WOULD HELP US TREMENDOUSLY.
I MEAN, I, I REALIZE THEY DEFINITELY NEED THE SECOND EXIT AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT.
I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE HAVE SCHOOL BUSES.
WE DO HAVE CARS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE CONDOS ARE THAT PARK ALONG THE STREET.
SO I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT ADDING MORE TRAFFIC THAN WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING, WE APPRECIATE IT.
ANYBODY ELSE? THAT IT? OH, I SEE SOMEBODY COMING.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING SPEAK TO TONIGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION GENE BALL, 71 43 KAUFMAN ROAD 4 3 0 1 7.
I'M HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE FOR OUR EXTENSION OF OUR CEMETERY.
THAT'S BEEN MY GOAL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
I APPRECIATE THE WOOD CORPORATION OR THE COMPANY DONATING SOME PROPERTY OR GREEN SPACE OR WHATEVER.
MY VISION IS NOT TO HAVE YOUR TYPICAL CEMETERY.
THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A MEMORIAL GARDEN.
YOU WON'T, EVEN IF YOU'RE WALKING ON MONTEREY DRIVE, YOU WON'T REALIZE IT AS A CEMETERY THERE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP WITH A LOT MORE MODERN WAYS OF DOING THINGS THAT FIT INTO THE ENVIRONMENT BETTER THAN YOUR TYPICAL CEMETERY.
A LOT OF IT'LL BE SCATTERED AREAS WHERE YOU COULD, IF YOU'RE
YOU CAN HAVE AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN SCATTER AND HAVE A LITTLE STONE WITH SOME INSCRIPTION ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE YOUR TYPICAL CEMETERY.
MY HOPE IS THAT THIS GOES THROUGH, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE ZONING COMMISSION DO.
THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE, HE'S WORKED GREAT WITH ME.
I'VE TALKED TO HIM MANY, MANY TIMES AND HIS STAFF.
AND I HOPE THIS GOES THROUGH BECAUSE I'M GONNA BE PROBABLY BEFORE THIS ZONING COMMISSION, MAYBE A FEW YEARS FROM NOW, BECAUSE WE KNEW WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER SPACE.
I THINK I KNOW WHERE SOME PROPERTY IS.
I'M GONNA WAIT TILL I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE I MAKE MY MOVE.
BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE DID, AND THANKS FOR THE WOOD CORPORATION.
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PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD NOW, AND WE'RE GONNA GO INTO COMMISSION, UH, DELIBERATION OR DISCUSSION.SO LET'S START WITH MR. ALEXANDER AGAIN.
WELL, WHERE DO WE WANNA START?
SO ARE YOU GONNA PUT THE LIST UP? ARE WE GONNA GO THROUGH THEM ITEM BY ITEM? ARE WE GONNA TAKE THEM IN GROUPS? HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT? I THINK, UH, WHY DON'T WE GO THROUGH SOME JUST OVERVIEW AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU'D LIKE.
THAT'S THROUGH THE WHOLE COMMISSION.
UM, IN MY ONLY RESERVATIONS, I'M, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, MY ONLY RESERVATIONS IS I'M, I'M FAMILIAR.
MY ONLY RESERVATION IS THAT I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IN THE DISTRICT, HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHEN WE HAD SITES WITH THIS KIND OF COVERAGE, IT WAS NOT DUE TO THE APPLICANT, BUT IT WAS AN EXISTING CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT WAS FORCED TO WORK WITH.
SO THERE WAS ALREADY SIGNIFICANT COVERAGE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE IT.
BUT THIS IS A CONDITION WHERE SOMEONE IS CREATING, IT'S, IT'S A BLANK SLATE.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY CREATING SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD MAKE IT LESS, THE COVERAGE COULD BE LESS.
IT'S JUST LESS, LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, SO THAT'S PROBABLY MY ONLY RESERVATION.
AND MINOR THINGS ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE STAFF'S GONNA WORK OUT.
THAT'S MY ONLY RESERVATION WITH THE PROJECT.
AND I WISH LIKE THE PARKING WAS SOLVED A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO MAYBE THAT PROPERTY COULD BE GREEN SPACE, IT WAS CON CONTRIBUTED TO THE SITE.
MAYBE THERE COULD BE A GARDEN PATH THAT CONNECTS THE BACK.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE, 'CAUSE SOME OF THOSE PEDESTRIAN ENTRIES I DON'T THINK ARE, ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT YET.
AND HOW YOU, I KNOW THE ONE ENTRY FROM THE WEST, YOU HAVE THE PAIRED PUBLIC ART, WHICH IS REALLY NICE ON THE ELEVATIONS.
BUT THEN WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT LIKE AND WHAT DOES THAT CONTINUE? HOW DOES THAT CONTINUE? IS THE GARDEN PATH ACROSS THE SITE? UM, WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE GREEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S REALLY MY ONLY RESERVATION.
I DON'T HAVE BUILD, I DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH ALL WHITE.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, SO THIS IS HISTORIC TRANSITION.
SO IF YOU GO A LITTLE FURTHER WEST AND YOU LOOK AT THAT STRANGE HOTEL THAT IS A BUNCH OF GEOMETRIC VOLUMES THAT AT LEAST BREAKS UP THE FACADE.
BUT CLEARLY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO THIS REALLY DOES MAKE A TRANSITION FROM FROM THAT TO THE DISTRICT.
UM, I THINK BUILDING AND THE REASON I'M OKAY WITH THE WHITE BUILDING ONE LOOKS LIKE ONE BUILDING.
AND SO PAINTING ONE, BUILDING ONE COLOR MAKES SOME SENSE.
I WISH BUILDING TWO DIDN'T HAVE QUITE THE VOCABULARY VARIATION VOCABULARY DOES ACROSS THE FRONT.
SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTINUITY.
BUT I'M OKAY WITH IT WHITE WITH THEM BEING ALL WHITE.
SO THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, MY GENERAL, MY GENERAL COMMENTS.
UM, JUST ON THAT TOPIC, WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE ON IT, I LIKE THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE BROKEN UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I KNOW THAT GIVES YOU CONFLICTING ADVICE, WHICH IS ALWAYS TOUGH.
UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY MIND THE, THE WHITE, UH, IT'S A LITTLE HARD FOR ME TO ENVISION WHEN I PICTURE FURTHER DOWN THE BLOCK AND THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF YELLOWS AND GRAYS AS THE BUILDINGS SEPARATE.
BUT, UM, WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO, TO SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.
UM, I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE, AS I INDICATED BEFORE, MY TWO CONCERNS, UM, ARE FINDING A WAY TO NOT HAVE THAT GARAGE BE SO IMPACTFUL FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE CEMETERY, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON.
AND, UM, THE, SOME OF THE BLANK WALLS.
I, UM, I MEAN WHETHER IT'S TRELLIS OR BROKEN UP IN SOME OTHER WAY, UM, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THERE'S A, A, YOU KNOW, A SHOW SIDE AND A BACK OF THE LOT SIDE, EVEN THOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ON HOW BUILDINGS IN THE HISTORIC AREAS HAVE A FACADE AND THEN KIND OF MOVE INTO A PLANER, UM, A PLANER STYLE.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THE BACK OF A WALMART WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BEHIND THERE.
UM, OTHERWISE, LIKE I SAID, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE QUALITY OF THE MATERIALS OF, UH, THE, THE USE BREAKDOWN.
THIS IS REALLY REFRESHING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALL RESIDENTIAL TOO, IN MY OPINION.
MS. HARD THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE, UH, FOR ALL OF THAT.
NICE TO HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS COMING OUT.
AND I THINK YOU ALL DO A VERY GOOD JOB TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER AND ALSO THINKING THROUGH WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE.
AND THAT COMMUNICATION HAS TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND NEVER ASSUME THAT, UM, OH, WE DON'T NEED TO CONTACT THEM.
THEY NEED TO BE PART OF THAT, UM, ONGOING SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA BE, UH, HAPPENING WITH A ROAD CHANGE AND SO FORTH.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
'CAUSE THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP
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WITH THAT.AND AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CEMETERY WITH BEING THERE, I THINK DUBLIN HAS, HAS, UH, ENHANCED AND, AND IS BROUGHT IT IN THE, IN THE FOLD TO EMBRACE IT.
AND SO I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO AS WELL.
THAT THAT HAS TO BE PART OF IT.
AND, AND, UH, I THINK, I THINK MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION IS GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, IN THE HANDS OF, OF THE STAFF HERE, UH, TO HELP GET THIS RIGHT.
UM, I'M GOOD WITH THE WHITE, I'M GOOD WITH THE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE ALL THE SURPRISES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE FLOWER BOXES YOU WANNA PUT IN, I THINK THOSE ADD SOME THINGS.
BUT WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF THEM? AND KEEPING THAT IN MIND.
YOU HAVE, UH, FURNITURE SELECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ARE THEY ALL YEAR ROUND? WHAT, WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE ME GO DURING THE WINTERTIME OR WHEN IT'S A BIT COLD THAT I STILL WANT TO WALK AROUND? IT IS PRETTY HEAVY WITH, WITH PARKING.
AND SO IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, ASSESS THAT, WE CAN BRING THAT DOWN A BIT AND TURN THEM AROUND HERE AND THERE.
THAT JUST ADDS TO THE LOOK OF THAT, OF, OF THE SPONTANEITY OF BEING THERE.
UM, SO I THINK AGAIN, JUST TAKING CARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GONNA BE REALLY, UH, IMPORTANT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND, UH, KEEPING UP WITH THAT AS WELL TOO.
YEAH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS TOO.
AND I ECHO WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN SAID.
YOU'VE OBVI, YOU'VE, YOU'VE LISTENED, YOU'VE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS, UM, YOU'VE HEARD FROM US AND YOU, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF COMING BACK.
AND I, I DO THINK THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE IS GREAT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY NICE, UH, NICE, UH, SPACE FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY.
UM, I, MY ONE COMMENT WOULD BE I WOULD, I KNOW WE GET HUNG UP ON PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A CASE WHERE, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY WALKABLE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND IT.
I THINK WE COULD SACRIFICE SOME PARKING TO GET BETTER PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
UM, IF WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, BEHIND, WE TALKED ABOUT BEHIND THE BUILDING TOO.
HERE, HERE, OR, UH,
OR, OR THE CONNECTIVITY CORMAN'S MILL.
LIKE I, WE NEED TO HAVE A, WE NEED TO HAVE REALLY, I THINK WE FOCUS ON PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE PARKING I'D, I'D APPROVE THAT IN A HEARTBEAT.
UM, AND I'LL ADD TO THAT ALSO AS WE START TO, UM, THE SITE STARTING TO EVOLVE IN MY MIND A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS CORBIN'S MILL WITH THESE ACQUISITIONS OF THE ADJACENT PARCELS.
START TO THINK IN, IN, UH, MR. ALEXANDER BROUGHT UP EARLIER BUILDINGS FIVE AND FOUR.
THOSE FACADES ARE GONNA ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOME PRETTY IMPORTANT FACADES FROM CORBIN'S MILL.
'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON ON THAT SIDE, UM, I THINK, I THINK THOSE ARE GONNA BE CRITICAL FACADES.
I WOULD JUST WANT TO CONSIDER, I MEAN, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH EVERYTHING.
I WOULD JUST, THAT WOULD JUST BE ONE CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY.
'CAUSE IT'S CHANGED A BIT SINCE WE, SINCE WE MET LAST TIME.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, AGAIN, GREAT, GREAT JOB.
IT'S GONNA, IT'S VERY EXCITING.
MR. STEM, SIR, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD IN GENERAL.
YES, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.
UM, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR DISCUSSING THE SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND JUST URGE YOU TO KEEP IT UP AND MAKE SURE THAT AS THIS PROJECT EVOLVES, WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT.
UM, YOU'VE HEARD MY CONCERN ABOUT THE TREE LOSS.
IF WE CAN PRESERVE WHATEVER WE CAN PRESERVE, IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO ME WHEN WE LOSE THOSE GORGEOUS TREES.
UM, AND I ALSO JUST REITERATE BOTH THE PARKING, YEAH.
I'M WILLING TO SACRIFICE SOME PARKING AND DO WAIVER FOR LESS PARKING IF WE CAN GET MORE OPEN SPACE AND MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
UM, AND FINALLY THE GARAGE BACK TO THE CEMETERY, THAT'S JUST A, A HARSH TRANSITION STILL.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT SOFTENED A LOT.
AND UH, AGAIN, MY COMMENTS ARE, I HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT BEFORE US.
UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY UNIQUE TO DUBLIN.
I MEAN, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING UNIQUE.
YOU HEARD THAT IN THE LAST CASE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THAT PROJECT? SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND I WISH IT WAS MORE MIXED USE A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT, BUT I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK IT MIGHT ACTUALLY CHANGE IT.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU AGAIN, I HEAR YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME STUFF, SO, UM, I I THINK THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE, BUT I THINK IT'S A, IT'S VERY UNIQUE AND I THINK YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMISSIONERS THE CONCERNS ABOUT CONNECTIVITY ABOUT THE GARAGE.
UM, I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE DUBLIN CEMETERY IS A CEMETERY.
AND SO YOU'VE GOT A GARAGE ALONG THE PARK THAT FROM, AT LEAST FROM MY VIEWPOINT, I'M HEARING THAT FROM SOME OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
SO THAT EDGE, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS GOT, UM,
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LANGUAGE IN HERE ABOUT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ON HOW TO, HOW TO BREAK DOWN THAT HUGE MASS AND, AND AGAIN, CONNECTIVITY.UM, I THINK PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME AND PARK IN THAT GARAGE AND THEN WALK EVERYWHERE.
SO I THINK HOW THAT GARAGE CONNECTS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND AGAIN, MS. DENNIS, OR THANK YOU FOR BEING THE TREE HUGGER, BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY ME,
SO, UH, YEAH, I, AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVEN'T WALKED THE SITE, THERE'S JUST SOME INCREDIBLE SPECIMENS OUT THERE AND IT'S A SHAME TO LOSE THEM.
SO, UM, WHATEVER WE CAN SAVE, UH, THE BETTER.
SO WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE GENERAL GIST OF THIS COMMISSION.
I'M HEARING MR. ALEXANDER SAY, CAN WE PUT UP THE, UM, VARIOUS APPROVALS ONE BY ONE AND GO THROUGH THEM? I DON'T REALLY, UH, THAT, NO, THAT
NO, I DON'T NEED TO SEE 'EM ALL GO THROUGH.
SO, SO LET'S START WITH THE PARKING PLAN.
UH, SO I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PARKING PLAN.
UM, I'M NOW GONNA BE OKAY IF WE PUT UP, THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES.
YOUR MIC'S NOT ON, YOUR MIC'S NOT ON, DID I TOUCH, DID I ACTUALLY TURN IT OFF? SO CAN WE PUT UP THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES? IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THESE TWO DEPARTURES? ANY ANYTHING WE WANT TO CHANGE? OKAY.
THEN I'M GONNA LOOK FOR A MOTION TO PROVE THE FOLLOWING.
MR. ALEXANDER? NO, BECAUSE OF THE, MY LOT COVERAGE IS.
IF WE COULD PUT UP THE WAIVERS.
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO THE WAIVERS? OKAY.
SO I'M GONNA LOOK FOR A MOTION TO IMPROVE THE FOLLOWING.
MS. MAXWELL, PLEASE TAKE THE BOARD.
MR. ALEXANDER? AGAIN, THE ONLY REASON I'M VOTING NO IS NUMBER 11.
SO NOW WE COME DOWN TO CONDITIONS.
DO WE, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, DO WE NEED TO ADD ANY NEW CONDITIONS? AND I THINK THE CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW, UM, COVER THE PARKING GARAGE ISSUES.
SO I THINK UNLESS I MISS SOMETHING, WE'VE, WE, THESE PRETTY MUCH COVER EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
SO I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
OH, OH, AM I ABLE TO SAY ANYTHING RIGHT NOW OR, UH, NO, BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE SAID, ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT VOTING.
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THESE LOOK GREAT.I JUST HAD A, A COUPLE CLARIFICATION POINTS.
UM, UH, NUMBER SEVEN, THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE CEMETERY.
UM, I, I, I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH A CONNECTIVITY FROM MONTEREY THAT CAN KIND OF, UH, HAVE, UH, A SIGNAGE PIECE AND BE A REAL ENTRANCE AS OPPOSED TO WALKING THROUGH THE, THE, THE GARAGE PIECE AS THE CONNECTIVITY.
YEAH, I, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE WAY I INTENDED WORD.
IT IS LOCATIONS TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY.
SPECIFY GOING THROUGH THE GARAGE.
CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE ARE GLAD TO HEAR YOUR, UH, MARK WOOD 30 55 GLEN RIDGE PARKWAY, COLUMBUS, OHIO.
I JUST REALLY LOVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, UM, WITHIN THE SETBACK AREA.
UM, GOING TO BRIDGE STREET NEXT TO BUILDING TWO, NEXT TO BUILDING TWO.
SO IF, IF THAT COULD BE KIND OF DOCUMENTED, IF EVERYONE'S IN KIND OF SHARES THAT VISION, I THINK THAT'D A GREAT TIME TO KIND OF, UM, RATIFY THAT.
ARE YOU REFERRING THE A WALKWAY TO THE EAST OF BUILDING TWO? IS THAT WHAT, BUILDING TWO.
SO BASSAM IS THAT I, YEAH, I I BELIEVE THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT AND THE CONDITION STILL IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
SO I THINK, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CONDITION, BUT I THINK WE ARE, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT.
SO, SO THE COMMENTS ON THE RECORD STAFF HAS HEARD IT, THEY'RE GONNA WORK GREAT, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW WHAT THEY HEARD FROM THE MEETING.
I, EVERYONE SEEMS TO SUPPORT THAT DIRECTION IT SOUNDS LIKE.
SO, UM, ONE PIECE I HAD JUST ON THE, THE, UH, NUMBER 12, THE ARCHITECTURE, UM, UH, I WOULD JUST LOVE A, AND TELL ME IF THIS IS IN THERE.
UM, WE REALLY WANNA SUBMIT OUR, OUR, UH, FINAL SITE PLAN TO GET THAT PROCESS STARTED.
UM, AND REALLY THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS CAN'T MATERIALLY MOVE.
UM, IS, IS THE COMMISSION, UH, KIND OF ACCEPTING THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AS THEY EXIST IN A MA YOU KNOW, MATERIAL WAY? I THINK TO YOUR POINT MR. ALEXANDER, ABOUT SOME ARTICULATION MOVING INCHES IN AND OUT, BUT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD WE, IS THAT A CONDITION WE COULD ADD HERE? I, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH ADDING THAT LANGUAGE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE APPLICANT WORK WITH STAFF TO, THROUGH THOSE.
'CAUSE THAT'S PART OF THIS IS, I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE EL ELEMENTS OF LOOKING AT THE, THE DETAILS, RIGHT? IT COULD BE THAT SOMETHING HAS TO SHRINK OR GET, MOVE A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T THINK WE, THAT'S MY OPINION.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THOUGH, PART OF THIS APPROVAL WOULD IS THE FOOTPRINT APPROVAL AND THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SO THAT ANSWERS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, I THINK, BUT EXACTLY.
BUT ARE YOU SAYING EXACTLY THE FOOTPRINTS THAT ARE THERE ON THE PLAN TODAY? YEAH.
UH, I MEAN WE WOULD, WE COULDN'T, THAT WOULD SAY THAT THE FOOTPRINTS WOULDN'T MOVE LIKE A BUILDING WALL COULDN'T MOVE OVER FIVE FEET OR I THINK WE HAVE TO, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE APPROVING.
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE DEFINITION TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON.
I THINK IT'S, IN MY OPINION OKAY, TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH STAFF AS LONG AS WE KIND OF ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
THAT GENERALLY, GENERALLY, YES, THESE ARE ALL FINE, BUT I DON'T WANNA BE FINITE.
I THINK YOU'RE ASKING FOR A FINITE, THE BUILDINGS AREN'T GONNA MOVE AND WE AREN'T ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE MOVING THE PARKING GARAGE OR WHETHER 15 OR 18 FEET IS RIGHT OR WHETHER, SO I THINK I HAVE A FEELING IF YOU WORK IT OUT WITH STAFF, CHANCES ARE RESISTANCE.
THAT'S WHERE YOUR MOST OF YOUR RESISTANCE WOULD PROBABLY COME FROM.
SO IF YOU CAN WORK IT OUT WITH STAFF, I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF, UH, WE OVERRODE THAT.
THERE ARE FIVE OTHER PEOPLE HERE WHO MAY, FOR THE RECORD, I'D AGREE WITH THAT.
WOULD ALL THE COMMISSION AGREE THAT THE BUILDING GARAGE
AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO SET A NUMBER.
I'D RATHER IT STILL BE A WORK IN PROGRESS WITH STEP TO WORK THAT OUT.
I, MY WORRY IS THAT, UM, NOT HAVING CLARITY, CAN YOU HEAR YOUR MIC, YOUR MIC'S OFF.
MY, MY WORRY IS THAT NOT HAVING THAT CLARITY MAY NOT REALLY ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD,
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I GUESS.SO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL FOR THE 15 FEET DIRECTLY HERE RATHER THAN 18 FEET, CORRECT? UH, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE NICE.
I MEAN, IF IT'S A FLAT NO, I CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SHRINK THE SIDEWALK AND FIGURE THAT OUT.
UM, I JUST, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MAKE FOR A BETTER PROJECT.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD JUST BE A STRAW POLE.
WHAT THE APPLICANT'S ASKING FROM US IS THAT THE PLAN AS IT'S PUBLISHED WITH BUILDINGS WHERE THEY ARE, IS NOT GONNA CHANGE, IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US.
AND I THINK THERE'S STILL DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT MOVING SOME TO ALLOW FOR TREE RESERVATION AND, AND I DON'T THINK, I DON'T, I'M NOT SENSING THE COMMISSION IS, WE COULD DO A STRONG POLL, DAN.
I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE ADDITIONAL OR WITH LESS BUFFER.
I THINK I'M THE LEAD MOST LENIENT FOR THE APPLICANT SAYING I WOULD BE OKAY WITH LESS BUFFER.
BUT I AM LEANING NOT TOWARDS CODIFYING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD NECESSARILY HELP YOU HERE.
BUT STRAW UPHOLD NOTWITHSTANDING, I THINK THERE, I I, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR TIME CRUNCH AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DESIGN OPTIONS, LIKE THE GARAGE PART OF IT COULD BE 18 PART COULD BE 15, AND THEN IT SOLVES THE ISSUE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE HAVING HELPS SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE HAVING WITH THE, WITH THE APPEARANCE AND THE MONOLITHIC CHARACTER.
SO I MEAN, I'D, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU MUCH FLEXIBILITY TO MEET MM-HMM
WHAT STAFF'S ASKING, BUT I REALIZE THAT'S TIME KATHY.
THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH STAFF STILL, JAMIE, I, I'M, I'M THE SIDE WITH DAN.
I'M MORE IN FAVOR WITH THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING I'M OKAY WITH THIS, THE 15 FEET.
UH, WELL, TO BE HONEST, YEAH, I'D RATHER SEE STAFF WORK IT OUT.
THERE'S CLEARLY SOME SORT OF DISCREPANCY GOING ON HERE AND I'D RATHER SEE THAT BE WORKED OUT.
SO, AND I WOULD TRUST STAFF TO DO THAT.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT? IS YOUR CONCERN THAT LIKE WITH BUILDING PERMITTING BASED ON THIS CONDITION, YOU'RE GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AT THAT STAGE? YEAH, MY CONCERN IS THE SITE PLAN WE'RE HOPING TO SUBMIT SOON MM-HMM
UM, AND THEN THAT IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THIS AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IF WE SUBMIT IT IN AUGUST, IT WOULD BE A NOVEMBER MEETING.
UM, AND THEN OUR SITE PLAN IS NOT BEING SUBMITTED UNTIL THAT NOVEMBER MEETING, UH, THAT, AND IT'S JUST WOULD CREATE A, A HARDSHIP FOR US.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S A FOUR TO SIX MONTH PROCESS TO EVEN GET THROUGH THE SITE PERMIT TO EVEN HAVE YOUR BUILDING PERMIT LOOKED AT.
SO THAT, UM, WE'D BE REALLY PUSHING THIS THING OUT.
AND THEN JUST THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE, THE CONDITION'S WRITTEN CURRENTLY THAT, UM, REFINING THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, JUST IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAID THE, YOU KNOW, I STILL WANT SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO RE-LITIGATE, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A, A PIECE FROM A WHILE AGO IN OUR AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WOULD REALLY LIMIT WHAT WE CAN BUILD HERE.
I MEAN, I, I READ THE CONDITION AS RELATED TO THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND NOT SO MUCH THE SIDING OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE, UH, SORRY.
UH, THE TECHNICALLY WHERE'S THE 1518 CONDITION THAT'S WITHIN THE ARCHITECTURAL, RIGHT.
SO IF I MIGHT CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS, THERE ARE SOME DETAILS THAT ARE STILL, AND, AND HEIDI WAS JUST REMINDING ME, I MEAN, THERE IS SOME FINAL GRADING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN AND PLATTING AND OTHER THINGS.
SO, UH, THERE, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS WILL HAVE TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT FROM, AT LEAST THE WAY WE WERE LOOKING AT IT IS THAT OTHER THAN THE GARAGE, WHICH WE HAVE TO, TO RESOLVE THAT, THE GENERAL FOOTPRINT LOCATIONS PENDING THOSE DETAILS, STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE.
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT SOME SKIN TYPE OF ELEMENTS.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF ANY MINOR OFFSETS, UM, SO AT LEAST AS THIS WAS WORDED WHEN WE RECOMMENDED THAT CONDITION, THE THOUGHT WAS WE ARE GENERALLY OKAY WITH THAT, WITH THE, WITH THE FOOTPRINTS, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE LIKELY SOME TWEAKS REGARDLESS.
AND THAT HAPPENS EVEN WITH ANY APPLICATION AS WE GET FROM
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PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL TO SITE PERMITS, TO BUILDING PERMITS.AND SO IN MY VIEW, I THINK IF THERE IS AN OPEN QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING STRUCTURE, THAT'S PROBABLY A BIGGER ISSUE TO RESOLVE WHETHER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 15 FEET WITH SOME OF THE ACCOMMODATIONS.
AGAIN, REALIZING THAT THERE MAY END UP BEING SOME ADDITIONAL TWEAKS IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 15 FEET, WITH WORKING WITH THE ARBORIST, OR IF YOU ARE, UM, WANTING THAT TO BE MOVED A LITTLE FURTHER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SPECIFY A SPECIFIC NUMBER, UH, BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE WILL BE INTERRELATED.
DOES THAT TIE, DOES THAT YEAH, MAKE SENSE? UM, YES.
I, I I, I, I DO THINK THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY PIECE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN MOVING IN A MATERIAL WAY IS, BUT IT'S THE ENTIRE LEFT SIDE OF THE SITE, OR SORRY, RIGHT SIDE OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE.
SO IT IS MATERIAL IN THAT SENSE.
SO AGAIN, I, I, I GUESS I JUST ASSUMED THAT THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY OF WORKING WITH STAFF.
LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S GONNA BE LITTLE TWEAKS OF HERE AND THERE, AND I THOUGHT IF WE COMMIT TO LIKE IT'S LOCKED IN STONE, THAT THAT DOESN'T GIVE ANY FLEXIBILITY AS LITTLE THINGS COME UP AS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR THE COMMISSION AND FOR STAFF.
IS THAT IF AT THIS STAGE WE PLACE, YOU KNOW, STRICT NUMBERS IN THESE CONDITIONS, THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA FIND THEMSELVES STRAIGHT JACKETED AS THE ENGINEERING BECOMES MORE REFINED AND THINGS HAVE TO MOVE, WHETHER IT BE 15 FEET OR 18 FEET.
WHEREAS WHEN IT GOES THROUGH FOR BUILDING PERMIT OR FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLANNING STAFF, BASSAM AND HIS PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE CONDITIONS IN LIGHT OF THE DISCUSSION HERE IN LIGHT OF WORKING WITH YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON ZONING REVIEW AND IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
WHEREAS IF IT'S, IF WE HAVE 15 HERE AND IT NEEDS TO BE 16, THEN HE'S STUCK AND YOU ARE STUCK.
NO, I, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
I GUESS, UM, AND SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT HEIDI, UH, TELL ME IF THIS IS YOUR CATE, YOU KNOW, CATEGORY HERE, BUT, UM, IS THIS APPROVAL TODAY AND WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH THE GRADES AND WE'RE, WE JUST GOT SOME, I WOULD HAVE SOME CAUTION WITH THE BUILDINGS AND THE LAYOUT, PARTICULARLY WITH THE PLATING, SINCE I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE OWNERSHIP CHANGES THAT ARE GOING ON WITH OUR CITY PROPERTY.
ARE WE GONNA BE DOING WORK ON THAT CITY PROPERTY OR IS THIS ON THE WEST SIDE? IT'S PART OF, IS THE SITE PERMIT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE? SO EVERY BUILDING YOU'RE SHOWING? YES, I WOULD HAVE SOME HESITATIONS TO SAY YES, WE COULD ACCEPT THAT IN AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT AFTER THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE INFORMATION AND SEE THE FINAL PLAT.
THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT WITH BRAD FERELL TO GET THINGS MOVING.
NO, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
I GUESS MY WORRY IS, UM, IF, IF WE, I THINK OUR SITE, OUR, OUR PLAT AND THE GRADING WORK WILL BE DONE WELL BEFORE NOVEMBER.
LIKE WHEN WE WOULD REALLY BE HEARD NEXT HERE.
AND JUST IF WE DON'T HAVE CLARITY ON WHETHER IT CAN BE 15 OR 18 FEET, OUR SITE PLAN WON'T BE ACCEPTED.
BUT I THINK ALSO WORKING WITH STAFF AND CLEARING UP SOME ENGINEERING ITEMS AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THOSE LIMITS WILL BE SET.
YOU'LL WORK WITH PLANNING TO WORK THROUGH ANY OTHER NUANCES YOU HAVE.
AND THEN I COULD SEE WHEN WE SUBMIT, MAYBE FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OR FINAL PLAT, WE'LL BE IN A GOOD STANDING, SINCE YOU HAVE A, I'M ASSUMING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TONIGHT, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT A SITE PERMIT.
IT'S JUST SOME OF THOSE NUANCES WITH THE OWNERSHIP, THE RIGHT OF WAY LIMITS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T PUT A FOUNDATION IN WHEN IT CROSSES BUILDING LINES.
LIKE WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS IN ITS PLACE.
AND IN THAT UPPER NORTH CORNER, I KNOW THAT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY OR THAT HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER.
SO THAT'S WHY I, I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WHEN THE PLAT IS SET AND EVERYBODY'S IN THEIR BUILDINGS AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
JUST SO LONG AS WE COULD GET THE PROCESS STARTED, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN, WITH THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT, PUT, PUT IT THIS WAY, YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR PERMIT.
I WILL NOT BE THE ONE APPROVING IT NECESSARILY BRADFORD GRILL.
WELL WITH HER CBO, BUT WE COULD GET THAT IN, WE CAN
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GET IT STARTED AND WE CAN GET IT MOVING.SO YOU CAN BE CLOSER TO CONSTRUCTION TIME.
YOU'RE OKAY WITH 12 THEN? SORRY? YOU'RE OKAY WITH ITEM 12 AS CONDITION 12 AS STATED AS MUCH AS I'LL EVER BE? YES.
SO IS THAT THE ONLY OTHER POINTS YOU HAD? UH, YES.
WELL THEN I AM GOING TO, DID I ALREADY MAKE A MOTION? YEAH.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO I, I, SO I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING 14 CONDITIONS.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE 14 CONDITIONS.
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DOWN TO THE COMMUNICATIONS SECTION OF OUR AGENDA.UH, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OTHER THAN REMINDING YOU OF THE JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.
A WEEK FROM TONIGHT, IT'LL BE AT THE DEVELOPMENT BUILDING IN THE LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM.
AND IT'S, UH, OUR ANNUAL TRAINING WHERE WE ARE, UH, START WITH SOME OF THE, UM, WE, WE WILL START WITH SOME OF THE, UH, CONFLICT OF INTERESTS, REMINDERS OF SOME OF THE EX PARTE TYPES OF, UH, ELEMENTS THAT I THINK MR. BOX WILL START US OUT WITH.
AND THEN WE HAVE FOLKS FROM PLANNING NEXT TALKING GENERALLY ABOUT, UH, RUNNING MEETINGS AND ESPECIALLY IN TIMES OF, UH, IF THERE'S CONFLICTS OR OTHER THINGS, KINDA A TIMELY SUBJECT.
HE, HE DID THE PRESENTATION AT THE A PA CONFERENCE THAT, UH, WAS VERY VALUABLE.
SO, UH, UH, IT'LL BE, WE'LL STARTING AT SIX O'CLOCK AND IT'LL BE, UH, UM, I BELIEVE SIX TO EIGHT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
UM, THAT'S THE END OF COMMUNICATIONS.
THAT'S THE END OF COMMUNICATIONS.
I'M GONNA, UH, MS. DOER HAS A, UH, ITEM I'M GONNA ASK COMMUNICATIONS.
I'M GONNA ASK, UH, THAT'S HELP HERE.
BUT, UM, I WOULD, I, I NOTICED, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE, I WAS CAUGHT DOWNTOWN, BUT, UM, THE, THERE'S ONE MINOR CORRECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO THE JUNE 11 MINUTES, AND I KNOW YOU ALREADY ADOPTED THEM.
UM, ON PAGE EIGHT, UNDER COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
UH, AND OF COURSE I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN WHO SAID IT.
YOU PULLED UP THE MINUTES, BUT, UM, SAYS NOT ANACHRONISTIC.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT WHOEVER WAS SPEAKING MEANT.
UM, ANACHRONISTIC MEANS OUT OF PLACE IN TIME, LIKE A CELL PHONE IN THE 1950S.
WELL, AND, AND I JUST WONDER IF THERE WAS AN AUTOCORRECT PROBLEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M GONNA GUESS 'CAUSE THAT WAS NOT PROBLEM.
I, IF MR. BOGGS DOESN'T ARGUE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT A CLERICAL CORRECTION IF IT WAS JUST THE ONE WORD.
YOU WANT ME TO LOOK IT UP? I'M TRYING TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND THE, WHAT WAS THE SITE HERE? PAGE? JUNE, JUNE 11TH, PAGE EIGHT.
IF WE CAN JUST DO IT AS A CLERICAL CORRECTION, THAT'D BE FABULOUS.
THIS IS IS MY RUDIMENTARY KNOWLEDGE OF ROBERT'S RULES.
IT'S, IT'S NOT OFFICIAL TO MR. BOGGS AS IT'S COOL.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S I'M ASKING FOR HIS HELP.
UH, NO, LET ME, WHY DOES THIS DOWNLOAD EVERY TIME I DOWNLOAD THIS? UM, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GET THERE.
DO I HAVE THE RIGHT PAGE? YEAH, IT'S UNDER COMMISSION DISCUSSION
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MAYBE.THE BOTTOM OF PAGE EIGHT, SECOND PARAGRAPH.
MR. GARVIN EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE USE, DESCRIBING IT AS APPROPRIATE AND NOT ANACHRONISTIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I THINK YOU MEANT NOT INCONSISTENT.
I GUESS I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CORRECT THAT.
IF IT'S NOT ANACHRONISTIC, THEN I JUST, ALRIGHT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT.
I DON'T RECALL THE CONTEXT, BUT I WHAT, WHERE WE TALKING? DON'T THINK I WAS THIS THE, WHICH PROJECT WAS THIS? IT WAS ABOUT, THIS WAS THE CEMETERY.
THE CEMETERY, UH, SO YEAH, PROBABLY NOT OUT OF, UM, PLACE.
THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD WAY, WAY OF PUTTING TEXT.
SO I GUESS, WHAT ARE WE DOING? MAKE A MOTION.
ARE YOU YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY JUST MOVE TO, UM, AUTHORIZE MS. MAXWELL TO REVISE THE WORD ANACHRONISTIC TO INCONSISTENT.
JUST MOVE, IF YOU MOVE TO AUTHORIZE A CLERICAL CORRECTION TO THE MINUTES.
I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE MS. MAXWELL TO MAKE A CLERICAL CORRECTION TO THE MINUTES.