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GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY[CALL TO ORDER]
OF DUBLIN BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.YOU CAN JOIN THE MEETING IN PERSON AT 55 55 PERIMETER DRIVE, AND ALSO ACCESS THE MEETING VIA THE LIVE STREAM ON THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S WEBSITE.
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UH, NOW, MS. MAXWELL, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL.
MR. ANDERSON HERE, MS. DE SANDRO'S.
ABSENT THIS EVENING, MR. LINVILLE.
[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THE DOCUMENTS, UH, INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 28TH MEETING? MOTION.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MAXWELL, MR. MURPHY? YES.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, UH, PROCEDURES FOR THIS EVENING.
[Case #26-035V ]
EACH CASE, UH, THIS EVENING WILL BEGIN WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANTS SLASH APPELLANTS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.UH, THE BOARD WILL ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF FIRST, AND THEN THE APPLICANT, ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, WILL BE INVITED TO COME FORWARD UNDER EACH APPLICATION.
UH, PLEASE ENSURE THAT THE GREEN LIGHTS ON THE PODIUM, UH, MICROPHONE IS, UH, ON AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
WE REQUEST THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
UH, SO NOW AT THIS POINT, WE'LL BE SWEARING IN, UH, WITNESSES, UH, ANYBODY INTENDING TO, UH, ADDRESS THE BOARD OR, UH, PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANY ADMINISTRATIVE CASES.
UH, IF FEW WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, PLEASE STAND, UH, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND ANSWER IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR TO SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH IN YOUR TESTIMONY TO THIS BOARD? YES.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST AND ONLY CASE THIS EVENING.
THAT IS CASE NUMBER 26 DASH 0 3 5 V.
THAT'S THE, UH, FOR THE HICKS RESIDENCE.
UH, UH, REQUEST FOR A REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A NON-USE AREA VARIANCE FOR A SHED TO ENCROACH INTO THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
UH, THE 0.23 ACRE SITE IS ZONED PUD, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, ARLINGTON'S, UH, BRADEN, AND IS LOCATED AT 76 63, UH, ASHFORD COURTS.
UH, I'LL START WITH, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION.
AS STATED, THE CASE BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A NON-USE AREA VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A SHED TO ENCROACH INTO THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
THE NON-USE AREA VARIANCE PROCESS IS A SINGULAR STEP FOR THE APPLICANT.
THE PURPOSE IS FOR THE BOARD TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE ARE ANY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY, WHETHER THERE ARE ANY NATURAL CHARACTERISTICS, AND WHETHER THERE WILL BE ANY IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES IF APPROVED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO REVISE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF ZONING PLAN APPROVAL APPLICATION INDICATING THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE BZA FOR THE SHED LOCATION.
IF DISAPPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO REMOVE THE SHED OR MODIFY ITS LOCATION TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING CODE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 75 63 ASHLER COURT.
THE SITE'S APPROXIMATELY 0.23 ACRES IN SIZE AND A ZONE PUD, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, ARLINGTON BRAND ARLINGTON.
BRANDON, THIS SITE IS LOCATED SOUTH OF DUBLIN SHIRE DRIVE, AND DIRECTLY EAST OF THE DUBLIN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.
MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SHED, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE LOT DOES BACK UP DIRECTLY TO A SHARED USE PATH IN THE CENTER.
IMAGE SHOWN IS THAT VIEW FROM THE SHED FROM THAT PATH.
AS FOR THE CASE HISTORY, ON APRIL 3RD, CITY STAFF RECEIVED A COMPLAINT ABOUT A SHED BEING BUILT AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT CONDUCTED A SITE VISIT AND CONFIRMED THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT AND NOTIFIED THE RESIDENTS OF THE VIOLATION AN APPLICANT FOR A CERTIFICATE OF ZONING.
PLAN APPROVAL WAS SUBMITTED AND DENIED BY THE CITY, DENIED BY CITY STAFF ON MAY 14TH OF
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THIS YEAR DUE TO NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.SO THE CASE BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT WILL BE A REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR A SHED TO ENCROACH 12 AND A HALF FEET INTO THE 25 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK.
MOVING ON TO VARIANCE CRITERIA A, ALL THREE OF THE CRITERIA ARE REQUIRED TO BE MET.
THIS LOT IS ONE OF THE SMALLEST IN THE SUBDIVISION AND HAS MINIMAL REAR YARD SPACE TO IT, TO ITS UNIQUE PIE SHAPE.
THE PIE SHAPE IS UNIQUE TO ONLY A SMALL SECTION OF THE HOMES IN THIS SUB AREA.
THE LOT DOES BACK UP TO A CHURCH PARKING LOT AND A SHARED USE PATH, AND THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL TO THE REAR OF THE SITE.
AND STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THESE CONDITIONS DO CREATE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES APPLICABLE TO THE LOT.
AND THIS CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET.
THE APPLICANT CONSTRUCTED THE SHED IN THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
THIS CONSTITUTES ACTION BY THE APPLICANT.
SO THIS CRITERION HAS NOT BEEN MET, AND REAR SETBACKS ARE INTENDED TO PRESERVE CLEAR OPEN SPACE BUFFERS BETWEEN PROPERTIES.
STAFF BELIEVE THAT GRANTING THIS REQUEST WILL MATERIALLY IMPAIR THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS REQUIREMENT.
SO WE FOUND THIS CRITERION HAS NOT BEEN MET.
MOVING ON TO VARIANCE CRITERIA B, AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOUR FOLLOWING FINDINGS NEED TO BE MADE PROVIDING A SHED THAT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT WILL CONFER SPECIAL PRIVILEGES TO THE APPLICANT THAT ARE NOT PROVIDED TO OTHER PROPERTIES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ARE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
REGARDLESS OF THE LOT SIZE, THIS CRITERIA HAS NOT BEEN MET.
THIS REQUEST IS NOT RECURRENT IN NATURE AND WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE CODE, AND THIS REQUEST WILL NOT IMPACT THE DELIVERY OF, OF ANY GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES.
SO BOTH OF THESE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET.
THE LOCATION AND THE SIZE OF THE SHED COULD BE MODIFIED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AND STILL PROVIDE SPACE FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO STAFF FOUND THIS CRITERION HAS NOT BEEN MET, AND WITH THAT PLANNING RECOMMENDS DISAPPROVAL OF THE NON-USE AREA VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A SHED TO ENCROACH 12 AND A HALF FEET INTO THE 25 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK.
PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, PRELIMINARY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, STAFF AT THIS POINT? OKAY.
UH, SO WILL THE, UH, APPLICANTS PLEASE, UH, APPROACH THE PODIUM.
UH, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE MIC IS TURNED ON, AND IF YOU'RE, UH, YOU'LL BOTH BE SPEAKING.
UH, JUST STATE YOUR NAMES AND YOUR ADDRESS.
UH, CHRISTY HICKS, 75 63 ASH LORD COURT AND MATT VITA, 75 63 ASH LORD COURT.
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO THANK, UM, THE, THE DUE DILIGENCE OF TORI AND HER HELPFULNESS AND DIRECTION AND TRYING TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL, UM, UNDERSTANDING NEXT STEPS AND EXPECTATIONS, UM, WHAT'S TO COME NEXT, EVEN TONIGHT FOLLOWING UP WITH US.
UM, TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, I MOVED INTO THE, THE PROPERTY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, ALMOST TO THE DATE.
JULY 4TH WOULD BE THE ANNIVERSARY.
HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS VERY OVERGROWN WHEN WE MOVED IN.
UM, ANYTHING FROM PAINTING THE HOUSE FRONT, NEW ROOF JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, GARAGE DOOR AS WELL AS PROFESSIONALLY LANDSCAPED.
UM, POINT BEING, I TAKE A LOT OF THOUGHT AND DO A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE IN THE DECORATION AND HOW THE HOUSE LOOKS, AS WELL AS HOW IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO AS TORI HAD MENTIONED THROUGH THE READ THROUGH AND THE SUMMARY, WE DO HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE SMALLER PROPERTIES, IT IS PIE SHAPED.
UM, SO IT DOES GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIMITED ACCESS TO WHAT WE CAN PUT ON IT.
UM, RECENTLY WE MAKING ARRANGEMENTS TO HAVE MY PARENTS MOVE IN WITH US.
SO THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SHED AND TRYING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA SPACE.
UM, WE HAD THE NEIGHBORS COME OUT WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE OKAY, AND THAT WAS THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK WE WERE MENTIONING, UM, DIRECTLY SOUTH OF US, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE LOCATION BEFORE THE TRUCK LEFT THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE DUBLIN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH RIGHT BEHIND US, AND JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THAT PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC PATH, A BIKE PATH.
UM, SO EVEN FURTHER, UM, ISSUES AND, AND UNIQUE SITUATIONS, UM, TO ADDRESS THE CRITERION, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN MET, UH, PUTTING IT WITHIN THE REAR SETBACK OF THE 25 FEET NOTED.
UM, BUT I THINK BASED ON OUR CONFIGURATION, THANK YOU,
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PROPERTY LINE, UM, WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT AND LIMIT OUR, OUR CAPABILITIES OF UTILIZING OUR BACKYARD, IT WOULD ALSO HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORS.UM, WE HAVE IT LOCATED, UM, RIGHT ALONG PINE TREES BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE NEIGHBORS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US.
UM, SO IT DOES PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF PRIVACY, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO POINTED OUT, AND I THINK THEY SENT A LETTER IN, UM, IN OUR FAVOR.
UM, THEY DO APPRECIATE SEEING OUR LANDSCAPING AND OUR PATIO AREA FROM THEIR BACKYARDS.
UM, THE SECOND CRITERION THAT WAS NOT MET WAS NOTED AS PRESERVING CLEAR SPACES AND OPEN SPACES, UM, AND THAT THE LOCATION OF OUR SHED WOULD NOT MEET THAT CRITERION RESPECTFULLY.
UM, AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFFING REPORT.
I DID DO VERY THOROUGH WALKTHROUGHS, UM, BETWEEN THE ARLINGTON, THE HEMINGWAY, AND THE TARA HILL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AND NOTED 171 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SHEDS OR FENCES WITHIN THAT 25 FOOT SETBACK.
UM, I THINK BEFORE WE EVEN GOT THE SHED, WE DID A LOT OF WALKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE, THINKING THAT THAT WAS OKAY.
THAT'S WHY WE, WE PUT IT IN THE LOCATION WHERE IT IS.
UM, AND TO SAY WITHIN THOSE 171 PROPERTIES, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE NOTED THAT WOULD ALMOST SAY WITHIN THOSE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE UNSIGHTLY, WHICH I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH.
I THINK OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
UM, EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO MAXIMIZE THEIR BACKYARD SPACE FOR ACTIVITIES, FOR FAMILY EVENTS.
AND I THINK IF IT IS, IT IS TURNED DOWN AND WE ARE NOT APPROVED, I THINK THAT IS UNEQUAL TREATMENT TO US BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
UM, ALSO NOTED IN, UM, THE APPLICATION I DON'T THINK WAS CONCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS OUR MEANS AND, AND PLANS FOR DECORATION.
UM, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPING AROUND OUR HOUSE, SO WE DID PLAN TO PUT, UM, SEVERAL PRIVACY AND LARGE BUSHES AND SHRUBBERY ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT THAT WOULD FACE THE WALKING PATH IN THE CHURCH AS WELL AS MULCH AND WHITE STONE AROUND THE OTHER THREE SIDES.
UM, I THINK SOLAR LANTERNS, WE ALREADY HAVE SOLAR LANTERNS ON THAT DO APPLY SOME LIGHT TO THAT BACK DARK PATH AND FLOWERS.
UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, I THINK OUR CRITERION HAS BEEN MET.
UM, I THINK THE CONDITION, UM, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED WITH 171 DIFFERENT HOMES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US EQUAL TREATMENT IF WE ARE APPROVED.
UM, AND THAT SAID, WITH ALL THE FACTORS I'VE MENTIONED, WHAT WAS IN THE REPORT, THAT SUMMARY THAT TORY HAD MENTIONED, UM, I DO NOT THINK WE WOULD DETRACT AT ALL FROM THE COMMUNITY BY HAVING IT WHERE IT IS, I THINK IT WOULD BLEND IN NICELY AND BE A VERY NICE AESTHETIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE CHURCH VIEW, TO PEOPLE WALKING ON THE PATH.
I, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES WE'RE OUTSIDE ON THE PATH AND EVERYONE COMPLIMENTS OUR LANDSCAPING, OUR PATIO, EVERYTHING IS VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW US FOR MAXIMUM UTILIZATION OF OUR SPACE AS WELL AS MINIMUM IMPACT OR NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I DID DO SOME MEASUREMENT YESTERDAY, AND IF WE DID NEED TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE 25 YARD OR 25 FOOT SETBACK, IT WOULD ONLY BE EIGHT FEET OFF OF OUR BACK CORNER OF LANDSCAPING, WHICH ISN'T EVEN A BASKETBALL POST.
SO IT, IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY LIMIT OUR ACCESSIBILITY.
AND WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR YOU TO APPROVE OUR REQUEST.
UH, NOW WE WILL, UH, BEGIN QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY INITIAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY? I, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, ONE, IS THERE AN HOA THAT YOU HAD TO CONSULT FOR THIS? THERE IS.
UM, HAD YOU THOUGHT ABOUT A SMALLER STORAGE UNIT OR SHED, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT, WE DID, BUT WITH MOVING BOTH PARENTS IN AND GIRLS BACK AND FORTH FROM COLLEGE, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF.
WE ALREADY HAVE SPACE, UH, FURNITURE AND WHATNOT IN OUR GARAGE, SO WE CAN'T EVEN USE THE GARAGE.
AND I, I THINK WE TRIED TO MAXIMIZE BASED ON THE 200 SQUARE FOOT RULE THAT WE, WE DID TRY TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE WE, WE DID IT AND SAID THAT THAT SHED SIZE WOULD, WOULD BE OKAY.
WE MISSED THE, UH, THE VARIANCE IN THE BACK.
BUT, UM, WE DID TRY TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T PUTTING ANYTHING THAT WAS TOO BIG FOR THE, FOR THE CITY.
SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THE HOW, HOW FAR IT'S 12.5 FEET INTO THE, UH, THE, THE REAR YARD SETBACK IS WHAT THE LOCATION OF THE SHED CURRENTLY, CORRECT? YES.
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AND, UM, SO, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE SPACE THAT'S UTILIZED IN THE BACKYARD, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD, UH, IMPEDE ITS, ITS ITS MOVEMENT.UH, ASIDE FROM JUST, ITS ITS SIZE AND HAVING LESS SPACE OF AVAIL.
BEING, WELL BEING THE PIE SHAPED.
SO NOT ONLY WOULD YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT UP INTO THE 25 FOOT SETBACK, YOU'D ALSO HAVE TO MOVE IT OVER.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE LOSE THE, ALMOST THE ENTIRE BACKYARD, IF THAT IS THE CASE.
AND, UM, IS IT, IS THERE A FOUNDATION TO IT NOW CURRENTLY? LIKE IS IT LIKE A, LIKE A FLAT CEMENT, UH, FOUNDATION OR IS IT NO FOUNDATION? YEAH.
WE DID PUT CHICKEN WIRE AND WHATNOT UNDERNEATH
I'VE HAD BAD HISTORIES BEFORE WITH SKUNKS.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT LAST SLIDE YOU WERE SHOWING? THE OTHER THING THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PICTURE SHOWED IS, IS BETWEEN THE BACK, THE 12, THE 12 FIVE, THE BACK OF THE BARN, THERE ARE VERY LARGE PINE TREES.
OH, LINE, THE LINE, THE WALKING PATH THERE BETWEEN THE, SO THERE'S A LINE OF PINE TREES THAT GO THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY LINE THERE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE BACK OF THE BARN IS JUST STICKING OUT TOWARDS THE, THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY TREES IN BETWEEN THEM.
THEY'RE VERY TALL, SO IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT BUSHES, THEY'RE TREES.
SO TORY'S GONNA PULL UP THOSE PICTURES.
SO THAT, JUST FOR CLARITY, WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, UH, THAT ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE, UH, THE IMAGE, UM, THAT'S WHERE THOSE TREES OKAY, I SEE
SO THAT'S ALONG THE BACK PAT BIKE PATH.
AND, UH, HOW CLOSE WOULD YOU SAY THE, UM, UH, THERE WAS A MENTION OF A WALKWAY, UM, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TALKING HERE BETWEEN THE, THE TREES AND THAT WALKWAY OR THE, UH, THE SHED MOUNT WALKWAY BETWEEN THE SIX TO SEVEN FEET? YEAH, I'D SAY THE, THAT TREE THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN THE BARN, BETWEEN THE SHED AND THE BIKE PATH.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, THANKS FOR YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION THERE.
UM, DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THE CHURCH ABOUT THIS? HAVE THEY WEIGHED IN ON THIS IN ANY WAY OR NOPE.
UM, WOULD YOU, THE PARKING LOT THAT'S BACK THERE, LIKE ON SUNDAYS OR BUSY CHURCH, ANY OTHER CHURCH EVENTS? LIKE, IS THAT FULL BACK THERE? LIKE ARE THERE CARS PARKED RIGHT BACK THERE? USUALLY, OR? I WOULDN'T, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT, THERE'LL BE CARS, CARS PARKED BACK THERE, BUT NOT ON A NORMAL SUNDAY THAT, THAT FAR DOWN.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, LIKE RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
WOULD THERE BE CARS PARKED NORMALLY ON A SUNDAY OR MORE TOWARDS THE HOUSE? IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE THERE, THE PARKING LOT FILLS UP FROM, FROM THE STREET BACK.
AND SO PROBABLY HALFWAY DOWN THAT TREE LINE, IT'S FULL, BUT NOT ALL THE WAY DOWN TOWARDS THE BARN OR THE SHED.
UM, I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, LOOKING AT THE YARD DIAGRAM, I MEAN, CAN YOU, DID YOU CONSIDER, OR WHY CAN'T YOU JUST TURN THE THINGS SIDEWAYS? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD GAIN 10 FEET.
CAN YOU GO INTO THE OTHER PICTURES, TORI ONE DIRECTION FROM THAT, AND THEN IF, AND THEN YOU MIGHT ONLY HAVE TO MOVE IT LIKE TWO FEET TOWARDS THE HOUSE THAT WAY.
AND MAYBE IT SAID YOU HAVE EIGHT FEET BETWEEN THE PROP, THE SIDE YARD.
I THINK YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE FIVE, SO YOU STILL HAVE A FEW FEET BACK THAT WAY IF YOU JUST TURNED IT SIDEWAYS, WOULDN'T THAT, UH, SO IF YOU, IF YOU SEE THAT PICTURE THERE, SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE DID LOOK AT THAT.
IF SO, WE WOULD HAVE TO SLIDE IN THAT PICTURE THAT THE, THE, UH, SHED FORWARD, WHICH COMES VERY CLOSE BECAUSE OF THE PIE SHAPE, VERY CLOSE AND WOULD PROBABLY, WE MEASURE IT.
IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY, IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT UP 10 FEET, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ON THE PROPERTY LINER WITHIN THAT FIVE FEET VARIANCE.
AND THEN YOU TURN THE SHED LONG WAYS.
AND IT'S LITERALLY PROBABLY EIGHT FEET FROM THE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE CORNER.
IF YOU MOVE IT UP THAT FAR, WHICH WOULD CONSUME, I'D PROBABLY SAY 75% OF OUR BACKYARD.
WELL, I, I MEAN, I'M SAYING IF YOU MOVED IT
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AND LEFT IT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PICTURE, WE'LL SAY TO THE EAST IS WHERE THE, THAT 10 FOOT MM-HMMUH, NOTATION IS IF YOU LEFT THE BORDER THERE, YOU'D ONLY BE ENCROACHING TWO FEET INTO THE SETBACK AT THAT 0.2 AND A HALF FEET.
AND YOU COULD JUST MOVE IT TWO AND A HALF FEET EAST.
I GUESS IT WOULD STICK OUT MORE INTO YOUR YARD, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE ENCROACHMENT ANYMORE.
AND, AND TO, TO THE POINT IS WHEN WE TURN THAT LONG WAY, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE CORNER OF OUR HOUSE AND PATIO THERE, SO IT ALMOST WOULD EQUATE.
AND THERE, THERE'S A PICTURE WITH THE FIRE PIT.
I THINK IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU SHOWED JUST A MINUTE AGO.
AND SO THAT LIKE
IT'S HARD TO GET, I WAS TRYING TO GET DIFFERENT ANGLES TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT SO YOU JUST WOULDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH, IT WOULD JUST MAKE ANOTHER PART OF YOUR YARD UNUSABLE, IF, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? RIGHT.
AND, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, I MEAN WEEKS, I SPENT
AND I WOULD SAY OF THOSE 171 PROPERTIES, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 80% OF THEM ARE WITHIN FIVE TO 10 FEET OF THEIR PROPERTY LINES.
NOW, I DIDN'T GET OUT AND MEASURE IT.
I'M, I CAN, I CAN TELL KIND OF WHERE THE, THE DIVOTS ARE IN THE, IN THE YARDS AND WHERE THEY KIND OF SINK DOWN IN BETWEEN PROPERTIES.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE SAME EQUAL TREATMENT THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY GOT PERMITS OR NOT, OR IF THEY'RE ALL CORRECT IN PROPERLY PLACED AS WELL, I GUESS
WELL THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
UH, I SUPPOSE TO THAT END, HAVE WE, UH, HAD ANY, UH, VARIANCES ISSUED, UM, FOR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT, UH, FOR NON-CONFORMING, UH, SHEDS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE OR THAT WE HAVE, UH, ON RECORD? THERE'S NONE IN THAT AREA THAT I'M AWARE OF.
AND IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THESE SHEDS MAY HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN BEFORE THIS, UH, REGULATION WAS, WAS ENACTED? IT'S VERY POSSIBLE.
UH, THE SHEDS THAT YOU OBSERVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ARE THEY SIMILAR IN SIZE AND SHAPE AND, UH, ARE THEY ALL, BECAUSE THE DIMENSIONS ARE, WAS IT, UH, 10 BY 10 BY 20? UH, ARE THEY KIND OF SIMILARLY SIZED? ARE THEY YEAH, 10 BY, I THINK WE'VE SEEN 10 BY 10, 10 BY 15 AND 10 BY 20.
AND, AND WE DID, WE DID THINK ABOUT THAT.
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN SOME OF, SOME OF THE STRUCTURES THAT WE'VE SEEN ARE VERY NEW, LOOKING, VERY NEW AT LEAST.
UH, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE SEEN SOME THAT LOOK REALLY OLD TOO, SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY TOO.
ARE THE HIMES, THE PEOPLE WHOSE YARD THERE'S HOUSE WE CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WERE OUT WITH US.
SO ONCE WE HAD THEIR APPROVAL, WE HAD THEM SET THE, THE SHUT DOWN WHERE IT IS NOW.
UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE SO THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD NO ISSUE, I THINK BECAUSE WE CONSULTED THEM AND WE TOOK THEIR OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, BUT LIKE I MENTIONED, AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF FROM THAT ANGLE, THEIR PATIO, THEY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT AND SEE US, NOT US, BUT
AND DO YOU KNOW, I ASSUME YOU KNOW THE KTS WHERE YES, THEY'RE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THEY'RE OFF THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE.
BUT WE JUST GOT A NEW GARAGE DOOR, SO THEY WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE FOR THE
UH, WHAT IS BEING STORED IN THE SHED? UH, IS IT, WHAT SORT OF NECESSITATES ITS ITS CURRENT SIZE AND, AND DIMENSIONS? UH, WHAT, WHAT'S, UH, WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO MOVE SOME THINGS OUT OF THE GARAGE INTO THE SHED POOLS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
THERE'S SOME FURNITURE, UM, WITH OBVIOUSLY WITH HER PARENTS DOWNSIZING AND MOVING.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE
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TO GET RID OF THINGS.SO, UM, WE'RE, WE, OUR GARAGE IS PRETTY FULL, UH, WITH THINGS AS WELL AS THE, THE SHED.
SO HOW MUCH OF THE INTERIOR REAL ESTATE IS BEING FILLED CURRENTLY? HUGE.
UH, WE'VE GOT SHELVING PUT ON THE ONE SIDE, AND THEN WE'VE KIND OF GOT THE, WE'VE GOT THE, THE FURNITURE AND STUFF STACKED AT OUR SIDE.
AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, ENOUGH THAT WE CAN'T GET ANY CARS INSIDE
SO IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE DIMENSIONS, HAD YOU CONSIDERED, UH, LIKE A SMALLER SHED BEFOREHAND? WHAT, WHAT KIND OF MADE YOU LAND ON, UH, SOMETHING THIS SIZE? YES, YES.
AS AS MENTIONED, WE, WE KINDA LOOKED AROUND TO MAKE SURE IT WAS, IT WAS GONNA FIT, AND THEN WE DID CHECK AND FOUND THAT YOU COULD HAVE A SHED WITH 2000 OR 200 SQUARE FEET, AND WE SAID WE WANNA MAXIMIZE IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO WE WENT TO THE, THE MAX LIMIT THERE.
HOW, UH, WHERE DID YOU CHECK? WE CHECKED WITH WHOM? WHO DID WE ON THE WEBSITE? DUBLIN, CITY OF DUBLIN, DUBLIN, SOME VERSION OF IT.
AND IT, I THINK THE, THE REQUIREMENTS WAS ANYTHING EXCEEDING 200 SQUARE FEET WOULD HAVE SOME, UM, WE NEED A PERMIT PERMITTING AND OTHER APPLICATIONS.
SO MAY HAVE CONFORMED TO THE SIZE AND DIMENSIONS, BUT IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY THE STAND BACK THAT WERE YEAH, EXACTLY.
UM, AND, UH, THE DATE OF CONSTRUCTION? WELL, WE APPARENTLY THE, FROM THE RECORD, IT'S, UH, APRIL 3RD WAS WHEN THE INITIAL, UH, A COMPLAINT WAS, WAS ISSUED.
UM, WHEN WAS IT, UM, UH, WHEN DID CONSTRUCTION COMMENCE AND WHEN DID IT CONCLUDE? WELL, IT WASN'T, UH, IT, IT WAS DROPPED OFF.
SO, UM, UH, THAT'S AN ALL WOOD STRUCTURE, UM, WITH A METAL ROOF ON IT, BUT IT WAS PRE-MADE, SO THEY BROUGHT A TRUCK IN AND, AND, AND DROPPED IT THERE.
BUT WE HAVE HAD IT THERE FOR, DO YOU KNOW WHEN WE GOT IT? IT WAS RIGHT AROUND CHRISTMAS, JUST AFTER CHRISTMAS.
BEFORE JUST, JUST AFTER CHRISTMAS.
SO IT WAS THERE FOR A WHILE BEFORE THE COMPLAINT CAME IN.
WE WERE JUST ABOUT TO DO THE LANDSCAPING AND I'M GLAD WE DIDN'T
WHAT, UM, WHAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT PUTTING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PATH, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? RIGHT.
FOR THE PATH WE WERE GONNA DO, UH, LARGER SHRUBS, UM, SHRUBS AND BUSHES ALONG THAT BACKSIDE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THREE SIDES WE WERE GONNA DO THE MULCH AND LIKE A COMBINATION OF MULCHING AND WHITE STONES, UM, WITH PLANTER BOXES ON THE SIDE OF IT.
WE ALREADY HAVE SOLAR LANTERNS ON ONE SIDE OF IT.
UM, IT IS PRETTY DARK OVER THERE.
THE CHURCH LIGHTS DO STAY ON EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S ANY KIND OF ROUTINE
BUT, UM, A COMBINATION BETWEEN WHEN WE'RE ENJOYING THE PATIO AND THE FIRE PIT AREA, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF STRING LIGHTS THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE, AS WELL AS THE TWO SOLAR LANTERNS ON THE SIDE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE AS WELL.
UM, BUT AT, TO YOUR POINT, AS WE NOTICED WALKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO HAVE PRIVACY SHRUBBERY OF SOME SORT TO COVER IT UP.
AND THAT'S, WE ARE GONNA FOLLOW SUIT WITH THAT.
AND ALSO TO MENTION TOO, THE, UH, THE, WE'VE GOT THE SHED IN THE SAME COLOR AS THE HOUSE.
THE HOUSE IS A, IS A WHITE, UM, LIME WASHED BRICK WITH A DARK ROOF, AND THAT'S A KIND OF A, A WHITE BARN WITH BLACK TRIM AND BLACK METAL ROOF.
TORI, THERE'S A PICTURE THAT I, FROM THE FRONT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE.
AND THERE YOU CAN SEE WITH FRESHLY PAINTED NEW ROOF AND NEW GARAGE DOOR, YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE STREET.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO THE KIE VERSION OR A VIEWPOINT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OTHER STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? I GUESS ONE MORE.
IS IT, WHAT DO YOU, THIS PATH THAT RUNS BACK THERE, IS IT PRETTY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED PATH? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT GOES OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IT CONNECTS, BUT I WOULD SAY SO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OH, RIGHT.
SO PEOPLE, YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF YEAH.
BETWEEN THAT AND GOING BACK AND FORTH MAKES SENSE.
I FORGOT THE POOL AND THE SCHOOL ARE BOTH RIGHT ACROSS THAT STREET.
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HAVE YOU HAD ANY INTERFERENCE FROM ANY CHILDREN RETURNING HOME OR WALKING THAT PATHWAY OR, UH, ANYBODY RETURNING FROM THE CHURCH OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? NO.WE MOVED IN, BUT THE PREVIOUS OWNERS LEFT BEHIND.
THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LITTLE DANGER THERE.
WE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NOW OR ARE WE STILL THINKING? I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, TAKE YOUR SEAT, WE MAY CALL YOU BACK UP FOR MORE, UH, FOR MORE QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, UH, WE ARE GOING TO ENGAGE IN OUR, UH, OUR DISCUSSION.
SO I'M TORN, UM, JUST BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I'M RESPECTFUL OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE PLANNING REPORT THAT THE SETBACKS ARE INTENDED FOR A PURPOSE TO HAVE THOSE BUFFERS AND TO HAVE THAT CLEAR VIEW, BUT IT IS A UNUSUALLY SHAPED LOT.
AND WHERE THE LOT IS BACKING UP TO THE, ESSENTIALLY TO THE PARKING LOT OF THE CHURCH.
UM, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH A BAD THING TO APPROVE, IF IT MIGHT BE OKAY IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND WHAT THE PLAN IS TO CONTINUE TO BEAUTIFY IT, ENHANCE IT, AND THAT THERE IS THE BIG ROW OF PINE TREES, UH, MATURE PINE TREES BETWEEN THE SHED AND THE PATH.
SO THERE IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE BACK OF A SHED FROM THE PATH.
'CAUSE I LOVE TO WALK ON THE WALKING PATHS IN THE AREA, AND I MEAN, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE THAT, THAT WON'T BE SHOWING.
AND THEN WITH THE TI, WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AGAIN TO SOFTEN IT UP.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I GUESS I, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO.
I MEAN, THE SETBACKS ARE INTENDED TO BE A BUFFER BETWEEN PROPERTIES, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT ANOTHER RESIDENCE, IT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ENCROACHING ON THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
IT'S A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, WHICH HAS, I MEAN, AND IT'S NOT ONLY THAT IT'S THE PARKING LOT, IT'S NOT RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE CHURCH.
UM, SO YEAH, I'M INCLINED TO SAY THEY MET THAT CRITERIA THREE.
UM, IN THAT THE ULTIMATE REASON OF THE SETBACKS I THINK IS STILL COMPLIED WITH.
AND IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT INTERFERING WITH THE SETBACKS, UM, WITH THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE ON EITHER SIDE, UM, I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS ON THREE.
UM, I THINK THE ONE WE'RE AT LEAST I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH IS TWO.
UM, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SHED BY THE WAY.
UM, BUT THE HARD PART IS THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE IS BECAUSE OF THE SHED, AND THAT ESSENTIALLY IS CRITERIA TO NOT BEING MET.
AND SO I HAVE A HARD TIME OVERCOMING THAT ONE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS' THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE.
UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, UM, I'M KIND OF SHARING YOUR TREPIDATION ABOUT THAT ONE.
UM, BECAUSE THE, I MEAN, IT ISN'T, SO THERE'S THE, UH, THE NON, WELL, THE, THE ODD SHAPE OF THE, OF THE LOT, WHICH WOULD, UM, WHICH MIGHT NECESSITATE A, UM, UH, PARTIAL SETBACK, BUT, UM, KIND OF STUCK ON THE DIMENSIONS AND, UH, UH, THE SIZE AND SORT OF THE, THE PLACEMENT OF IT, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD MAKE IT, UM, UH, IT'S DUE TO, NOT DUE TO ANY INACTION ON, UH, UH, PART OF THE
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APPLICANT, IT'S, IT IS DUE TO SOME OF THESE, UM, BROADER, MORE SUBJECTIVE CHOICES, UH, THAT AREN'T REALLY NECESSITATED BY SAY, LIKE THE, UH, THE LOT SHAPE OR THE, UH, OR THE TOPOGRAPHY OR THE MATURE VEGETATION ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.SO THAT'S, UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF, UH, KIND OF STICKING TO IT.
UNLESS THERE WERE SOME, UH, UH, GEO GEOGRAPHICAL OR, UH, TOPOLOGICAL LIMITATIONS, UH, THAT WOULD MAKE, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, MORE NOT PERHAPS A PERFECT, UH, PLACEMENT, UH, TENABLE THAN, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AS, UM, UH, IMPACTIVE OF A, UH, UH, UH, A VIOLATION OF THE, UH, UH, THE SETBACK, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE MORE, MORE IN LINE WITH, UH, UH, I'D BE MORE AN INCLINED TO, UH, PUSH FOR THE VARIANCE IF, UH, IT, IT WAS MORE CONFORMING TO, TO THAT.
UH, SO IF IT WERE A SMALLER SIZE, IF, UH, THE DIMENSIONS WERE REMOVED.
UM, ALSO LIKE THE, UM, I THINK WE HAD A, UH, A SITUATION WITH A GARAGE LAST MONTH THAT, UH, THEY WERE LOOKING TO EXPAND FOR STORAGE PURPOSES.
AND ONE OF OUR RATIONALES WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE GROWING FAMILY.
YOU'VE GOT, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, UH, THE STUFF IN THE PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD NECESSITATE HAVING, UH, NEEDING THAT EXTRA SPACE.
BUT, UM, WE DIDN'T, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS BOARD FOUND THAT TO BE, UH, A, UH, A COMPELLING REASON TO, UH, TO GRANT A VARIANCE IN, IN THAT SITUATION.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, I THINK, UH, UM, SORT OF A MODIFIED VERSION OF THE PLAN HERE, UH, WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE, UM, UH, THE GOALS OF, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE NON-USE GRANTING THE, UH, NON-USE AREA VARIANCE.
SO IF THERE'S LIKE A SORT OF MEDIUM THAT, THAT CAN BE MET HERE, BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T WANT TO DEPRIVE YOU OF A SHED.
UM, BUT ALSO IT, IT'S, UH, THE VARIANCE WOULD BE NECESSITATED DUE TO, UH, ACTIONS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN CONSIDERATION OF, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, THE OTHER, UH, POSITIVE, UH, THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
SO, UH, I GUESS ALL THAT IS TO SAY THAT, UH, I'M SORT OF AT AN IMPASSE WITH, WITH THAT.
SO, UH, I, UH, I, UH, I'M INTERESTED IN ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR OPINIONS.
WELL, I, I HATE TO ASK HYPOTHETICALS IF THEY WERE TO MOVE IT INTO COMPLIANCE AND THEN APPLY FOR A VARIANCE, ARE THEY ABLE TO DO THAT? CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION? SO SAY THEY MOVE IT OUT OF THE SETBACK, THEY PUT IT REALLY CLOSE TO THEIR HOUSE, AND THEN THEY COME TO US FOR THE VARIANCE.
'CAUSE I MEAN, I THINK MY BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST HURDLE HERE IS THE SHED WAS PUT THERE AND THEN THEY CAME FOR THE VARIANCE.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT THAT CRITERIA IS TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DOING IS BYPASSING THE VARI, THE PERMITTING PROCESS OR THE VARIANCE PROCESS MM-HMM
AND SO IF THEY GO INTO COMPLIANCE AND THEN COME THERE, THAT MIGHT RESOLVE MY ISSUES WITH THAT.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN DO.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL, BUT, UM, IT, YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL WHERE I'M GOING WITH MY VOTE AS OF NOW.
I MEAN, I, I, I GENERALLY THINK YOU'RE RIGHT AND YOU SIT HERE MORE OFTEN THAN ME, BUT TWO IS CERTAINLY KIND OF THE DIFFICULT ONE TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT.
IS IT, YOU KNOW, THE ACT WAS PLACING THE SHED WITHIN THE SETBACK, SO IF THEY BUMPED IT OUT 12 AND A HALF FEET AND THEN CAME BACK AND SAID, BASICALLY PRESENTED THE EXACT SAME THING AND ASKED, CAN WE JUST MOVE IT INTO THE REAR YARD SETBACK? DOES THAT OBVIATE THE ACTION THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN? YES AND NO, I TURNED IT MR. MURPHY'S COMMENT, WHICH IS BASICALLY THAT YOU'RE PLACING IT IN THAT SPOT BECAUSE OF THE APPLICANT'S ACT, THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED TO HAVE IT.
AND SO IT WOULD, I, I TEND TO THINK HYPOTHETICALLY THAT THE ANALYSIS FROM STAFF WOULD END UP BEING THE SAME.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, IF THERE WERE A DECISION MADE ON THIS TONIGHT, UM, AND IF IT WERE TO BE TURNED DOWN, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUBMIT ANOTHER VARIANCE FOR THE SAME REQUEST FOR A YEAR.
UM, SO I OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A CHOICE TO MAKE THE DECISION TONIGHT, BUT THERE'S
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ALSO, IF IT WERE REQUESTED, THE TABLE, THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS OUT THERE TOO, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE ARE.BUT ONCE A DECISION IS MADE THAT IS FINAL FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.
UH, JUST APPROACH AND I'LL MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS TURNED ON.
SO IF, IF THAT IS THE CASE AND IT IS DENIED FOR A YEAR, WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN NOW AND A YEAR? DOES THE SHUT HAVE TO MOVE AND BE RELOCATED OFF THE PROPERTY, OR DOES IT JUST STAY WHERE IT IS AND WE APPLY AGAIN WHEN WE MOVE IT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO, BECAUSE THERE'S AN ACTIVE, UM, COMPLIANCE CASE ON THIS, IF THERE'S A DE DETERMINATION THAT THE VARIANCE IS DISAPPROVED, THEN THE SHED WOULD EITHER NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE, OR THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A REVISED SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE SHED IN A COMPLIANT LOCATION THAT WOULD THEN NEED TO BE MOVED TO THAT LOCATION.
UM, SO IT, AFTER A YEAR, IF YOU WANTED TO SUBMIT AGAIN AND GO FOR A VARIANCE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT IS REALLY STOPPING.
I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, I GUESS, NOT OCCUR FOR, FOR A YEAR.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED OFF THE PROPERTY.
IT JUST HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO MEET THE SETBACKS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED FOR A VARIANCE TONIGHT.
SO IT'D HAVE TO BE 25 FEET FROM THE REAR YARD PROPERTY LINE.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION WHILE SHE'S THERE? MM-HMM
UM, DO YOU KNOW IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO EXCHANGE THIS UNIT FOR SMALLER ONE THAT WOULD I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO.
NO, WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, IT WAS SALES WERE FINAL, I THINK WHEN WE GOT IT.
I'VE INQUIRED ABOUT MOVING IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A HASSLE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'LL TAKE IT BACK.
WELL, ALTERNATIVELY, WITH REGARD TO THAT CRITERIA TO, I MEAN, ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS THAT, YES, THERE WAS AN ACT DONE BY PUTTING THE THING THERE THAT, BUT PUTTING THE SHED THERE.
BUT THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT I BELIEVE AND AGREE WITH THE CITY THAT WERE MET IN CRITERIA ONE MIGHT, IN MY MIND ANYWAY, UM, MAKE IT THAT THE ACTION THEY DID IN NUMBER TWO WAS ONLY LIKE, THE ONLY ACTION THEY COULD DO DUE TO THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS THEY PASS THE CRITERIA OR IF, OR THEY COULD, THEY COULD THEORETICALLY PASS THE CRITERIA IF YOU BUY MY ARGUMENT OR IF I BUY MY ARGUMENT.
BUT I, I AGREE, LIKE THE NUMBER TWO IS, I MEAN, WE ARE HERE, WE'RE STUCK WITH IT, BUT ALSO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S INTENDED TO BE AS, AS BLACK AND WHITE AS IT READS.
UM, LIKE IF THEIR ACTION THAT THEY DO IS BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY, THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY, THEN THEIR OPTIONS ARE LIKE, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM, THAT SEEMS LIKE WHY YOU WOULD HAVE A VARIANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY COULD PUT IT IN A COMPLIANT SPOT OR HAVE A SMALLER SHED.
SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY PUSHBACK.
IT WOULD BE, THERE'S, THERE IS SPECIAL CONDITIONS, I AGREE WITH THAT.
IT'S JUST THIS IS, IT WAS PLACED INTO THE SETBACK, AND SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PLACED INTO THE SETBACK AND THEN THEY WOULD'VE CAME FOR A VARIANCE OR BEFORE EVEN PUTTING ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY CAME, BUT BECAUSE THEY TOOK THAT SPECIFIC ACTION OF PUTTING IT IN THE SETBACK, THAT'S WHY I CAN'T GET PAST THAT.
I SUPPOSE THE, UH, ISSUE WOULD BE, THERE, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE SHED COULD BE MOVED TO.
UH, IT COULD BE A SMALLER SHED.
THERE MIGHT BE A, SOME KIND OF DIMENSION SHIFT OR SOMETHING, UH, THAT, THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES, UM, THAT DON'T NECESSITATE THE, UM, UH,
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THE, THE SHED IN ITS CURRENT STATE TO, UH, DIP INTO THE, UH, REAR YARD SETBACK BY 12.5 FEET.UM, ASIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING THE SHED AND ALSO THAT OPEN SPACE FOR, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES, BACKYARD ACTIVITIES AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, WHERE THE RUB IS.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE SECOND, SECOND CRITERIA, WELL, I MEAN, I, I GET THAT.
UM, AND I ALSO, I ALSO SEE THAT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, LIKE IF THEY HAD PUT IT IN COMPLIANCE AND THEN ASK FOR THIS, HYPOTHETICALLY THE CITY MIGHT GRANT THEIR VARIANCE OR IF THEY APPEALED IT, WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME IF THAT'S OUR ONLY SLIPPING POINT.
AND IF IT SEEMS LIKE WASTE TO MAKE TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE GYMNASTICS, UM, BECAUSE OF HOW THAT'S WORDED.
BUT I GUESS THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
I DON'T, UH, KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THE DISCRETION TO EXPEDITE ANY OF THAT.
IF, UH, THAT'S HOW THINGS ARE, UH, UH, GO, GO ON IT.
HOW WE, DEPENDING ON THE DECISION WE MAKE TONIGHT, HOW THINGS, UH, PROCEED.
UM, SO I, UH, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, THERE, IF WE DID VOTE AND IT, IT WAS IN THE NEGATIVE, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE VARIANCE, UM, I WOULDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, IMPOSE A YEAR PENALTY ESSENTIALLY, UM, TO, UH, TO HAVE IT MOVED TO A, A COMPLIANT AREA.
UH, BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME SORT OF MORE AMICABLE SOLUTION IF, UH, YOU'D BE WILLING AND ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, SLIGHTLY MORE COMPLIANCE THAT, UH, EITHER IS IN COMPLIANCE OR THAT WOULDN'T, UM, UH, STEP SET BACK INTO THE, UH, UH, GO BACK INTO THE YEAH.
REAR YARD SETBACK, UH, TO THAT EXTENT, THE, UH, THE 12 AND A HALF FEET.
SO THAT WOULD BE A, A DECISION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO TABLE OR NOT.
UM, I MEAN, OUR STAFF IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH, WITH THEM AND SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS.
UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN FOR THEM TO COME BACK IF THERE'S NO OTHER SOLUTION THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED.
UM, OR IF THEY WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FULL DECISION.
UM, WE ARE A BOARD OF FIVE, SO WE ARE MISSING ONE TONIGHT.
SO DEPENDING ON WHERE EVERYONE IS AT, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER THING.
BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET A VOTE TONIGHT OR WAIT FOR A FUTURE MEETING AFTER WORKING WITH OUR STAFF.
UH, MAYBE I SHOULD TEST THE TEMPERATURE IN THE ROOM, I GUESS.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE KIND OF STUCK ON? I THINK WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WANNA DO.
UM, MR. MOORE, YOU MADE A, A GOOD POINT ABOUT IS THERE A PLACE WE COULD PUT THAT THERE AND COREY, I WAS, COULD YOU PULL UP THE, UM, ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT SHOWS THE BARN, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT ON, ON WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO, AND AGAIN, BACK BECAUSE OF THE PIE SHAPE.
AND TO, TO YOUR POINT, BRAD, IF, IF WE MOVE, IF WE TURN THE, THE BARN THIS WAY AND THEN MOVE IT 10 FEET UP.
SO IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE THAT PICTURE, YOU TURN IT, THE, THE BACKSIDE PROPERTY LINE COMES IN LIKE A, LIKE A PIE SHAPE HERE.
SO TO STAY WITHIN FIVE FEET, AS I MOVE THIS UP AND TURN, I'M GONNA MOVE IT UP 10 FEET AND I'M PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE INSIDE THE FIVE FEET SIDE OFFSET FROM THE, FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN THAT'S ALSO 20 FEET FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE PUTS IT.
IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE THAT COMING OUT, PROBABLY WHERE THAT LAST PINE TREE IS NOW YOU'VE GOT THE BARN FACING THIS WAY.
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I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT UNSIGHTLY.'CAUSE I'VE GOT A BARN COMING WITHIN EIGHT FEET OF THE LANDSCAPING THERE IN THE BACK.
AND I KNOW THAT'S, WE, WE MADE THE DECISION THAT WE THOUGHT WE DID, WE THOUGHT WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE, MAKING SURE THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE BARN WAS FIT.
I'M NOT A PROPERTY GUY, SO I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A 25 FOOT SETBACK, ESPECIALLY IN THE YARD THAT IS SO SMALL, UM, IN THE BACK THERE DUE TO THE PROPERTY.
SO I WOULD BE ALL, IF WE FOUND A SPOT THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD LOOK NICE ALONG WITH THE, WITH THE HOUSE THAT MET THE, THE CRITERIA, BUT JUST WITH THE SHAPE OF THE, UH, OF THE BACKYARD AND THE SIDE, UH, PROPERTY LINES.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE WE CAN PUT IT.
WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE CROSSING ANOTHER VARIANCE TO FIX, OR WE'RE CROSSING ANOTHER BOUNDARY TO FIX THE BACK BOUNDARY.
THERE'S ONE OFF THE DECK, THE PATIO, IF YOU COULD SHOW THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO THAT'S ONE VIEW FROM THE DECK AREA, WHAT THAT WAS.
SO IF WE MOVE THAT BARN, IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE THAT, MOVING IT DOWN 10 FEET AND THEN TURNING IT LONG WAYS, IT'S GONNA BE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A BACKYARD.
WELL, TO BE FAIR, YOU'RE GONNA OPEN UP 10 FEET OF BACKYARD BY THE PATH.
IT WOULD JUST BE, YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? BIG AREA, THE ORIENTATION OF THIS BARN.
I THINK IF YOU CHANGE THE ORIENTATION OF THE BARN AND MOVE IT, UM, YOU'D ONLY HAVE TO MOVE IT A COUPLE FEET UP THE YARD IF YOU DID.
BUT AGAIN, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, I GUESS THAT, DID THEY ANSWER OUR QUESTION IF THEY WANT TO? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT'S THE QUESTION WE NEED TO ASK FROM THEM? DO YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING TO TRY TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS? OR WOULD YOU RATHER WE RULE TONIGHT? DEPENDS HOW YOU'RE GONNA RULE
THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE GAMBLE, UNFORTUNATELY.
I'LL E AS MR. HOUNSELL SAID, AND, AND THIS IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU, I THINK NO ONE'S MADE A DECISION, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THIS IS HEADED.
AND TYPICALLY THERE IS A FIFTH PERSON, AND SO IF YOU WANTED TO COME BACK AND MAKE THE SAME CASE PERHAPS, THEN EITHER WAY YOU WOULD HAVE SOME CLARITY RATHER THAN DEAD LOCKING AND ENDING UP INTO A, INTO A BIND WHERE YOU DON'T, WHERE YOU HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR TO DO SOMETHING OR REMOVE THE SHED ENTIRELY THAT IF YOU WANNA COME BACK.
AND I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE TO MR. LIN LINVILLE'S POINT, UM, IT, IT IS, IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS BLACK AND WHITE.
THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY, AS I POINTED OUT, WALKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I DIDN'T EVEN COVER.
I THINK THERE WERE 10 STREETS THAT I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO.
AND I'M SURE THAT NUMBER WOULD SURPASS 200 HOUSES WITHIN THOSE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, ARLINGTON, HEMINGWAY AND TARA HILL THAT ALL HAVE SIMILAR SITUATIONS, AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN FURTHER INTO THE SETBACK THAN OURS IS.
SO WE ARE JUST ASKING AND REQUESTING FOR THE SAME EQUAL TREATMENT AND SAME FAIR TREATMENT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN.
I HAVE, WHEN WE DID SUBMIT SOME OF THE PAPERWORK IN PERSON, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE ONLY VIOLATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO MAKE COMPLAINTS.
I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE EQUAL TREATMENT FOR EVERYONE.
SO IS THAT TO SAY 200 PEOPLE HAVE VIOLATIONS? POSSIBLY, MAYBE SO
UM, UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN BEFORE THIS, UH, THIS CODE WAS, WAS ENFORCED IN, IN THE MANNER IT IS, UH, IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT, UH, SOME OF THEM WERE GRANTED VARIANCES.
IT'S JUST INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE AT THIS POINT.
BUT I I, I, TO YOUR POINT, I I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, YOU WANT, UH, FAIR TREATMENT.
YOU WANNA HAVE THE SAME, UH, UH, USE AND ADVANTAGES THAT ARE GRANTED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU BE, UH, YOU BEING, UH, SINGLED OUT AND YEAH.
THAT'S NOT, UH, OUR GOAL HERE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT, UH, GOING TO, YOU KNOW, INTENTIONALLY, UH, PUT OUT UNFAIR, UM, AL UH, DECISIONS.
IT'S JUST, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST KIND OF BOUND BY THESE, THESE CRITERIA AND, AND, UH, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE VOLUNTEERS.
WE'RE DEFINITELY SYMPATHETIC TO EVERYTHING THAT, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE EXPLAINING TO US.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, IF IT DIDN'T COME DOWN TO, UH, THESE CODE SECTIONS THAN, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY MAKE A LOT MORE, UH, GRANT A LOT MORE VARIANCES, UH, THAN, THAN WE ARE OTHERWISE ALLOWED TO.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, UH, THE RUB OF, OF THINGS UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, BUT YEAH, I, I THINK IF, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO TABLE THIS NOW, UH, THERE MIGHT BE,
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UH, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO SORT OF, UH, SORT OF LITIGATE YOUR CASE AND, AND LOOK AT THE, UH, THE DIMENSIONS AND YOUR OPTIONS, UM, UH, WITH THE CITY.AND, UH, IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T, UH, QUITE AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE STILL HAVE TO GRANT A VARIANCE, UH, IF LIKE IT'S MOVED AT AN ANGLE OR MOVE FORWARD, UH, OR, UH, IF, IF IT'S DOWNSIZED SLIGHTLY OR, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, UH, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UH, DISCUSS AFTER THIS, UM, UH, THIS MEETING AFTER THE, UH, AFTER TABLING.
SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF THE OPTION AT THIS POINT.
UH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S YOUR DECISION WHETHER YOU'D LIKE US TO TAKE A VOTE OR IF YOU'D LIKE US TO TABLE AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME TIME TO, TO DISCUSS WITH THE CITY WHAT YOUR OPTIONS COULD POSSIBLY BE.
DOES THE TIE GO TO THE RUNNER, I'M SORRY,
TIDE WOULD DENY THE VARIANCE FOR, OH, OKAY.
WE GOT, UM, WE WERE BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO TRY AND FIND A WAY THAT IT'S STILL AESTHETIC TO OUR PROPERTY AS WELL AS TAKING CARE OF, UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
HOW WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW DO WE ENGAGE IN AND WHO DO WE WORK WITH? YEAH.
UM, SO IF THE REQUESTS WERE TABLED TONIGHT, UM, I WOULD SAY THE ENGAGEMENT LOOKS THE SAME AS HOW IT HAS BEEN.
UM, AND I THINK PART OF THAT WOULD JUST BE LOOKING ON OUR TEAM AND, AND SEEING WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE FOR THIS SIZE, UM, SHED WHERE IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE LOCATED AND WALK YOU ALL THROUGH THAT AS WELL.
UM, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WORKS, UM, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT ALSO WHAT OUR CRITERIA IS.
AND THEN IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THERE'S NOT A LOCATION THAT, THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO DOES NOT MEET, UM, GENERALLY WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THEN THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD, UH, FOR A FUTURE MEETING, WHETHER IT'S THE NEXT ONE OR, UM, WHETHER IT'S IN AUGUST.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO WALK THROUGH THOSE THINGS.
UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK THROUGH THOSE, BUT DEFINITELY WORKING WITH TORI.
UM, AND THEN THE REST OF OUR TEAM CAN CHIP IN AS, AS NEEDED.
IN THAT CASE, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE, UH, THE NON-USE AREA OF VARIANCE, UH, TO THE, UH, ARLINGTON, UH, BRANDON DEVELOPMENT AREA STANDARDS SUB AREA, A TWO, UH, TO ALLOW A SHED TO ENCROACH, UH, 12.5 FEET INTO THE 25 YARD REAR SETBACK.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MS. MAXWELL? MR. LINVILLE? YES.
SO AT THIS POINT, UM, UH, I'M WHO, WHO WILL ENGAGE WHOM, UM, I'M GUESSING THE CITY WILL CALL HIM, SO WE CAN REACH OUT, UM, AND WORK WITH YOU ALL ON, UM, ANY NEXT STEPS AND ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH.
YEAH, REALLY APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
JUST MAKE SURE THE MIC'S TURNED OFF AND GREAT.
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UH, COMMUNICATIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? I HAVE THREE THINGS IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, UPCOMING MEETINGS.UM, OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS JULY 23RD.
UH, SO THAT DEADLINE, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS, OBVIOUSLY.
WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THIS ONE.
UM, THERE IS A COMBINED TRAINING ON JULY 16TH THAT IS WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD, AND THEN YOU ALL, UM, THAT SHOULD BE, I BELIEVE IT'S HERE, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP.
UM, THAT AGENDA WOULD GO OUT, I, I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK.
WHAT WAS THAT? NEXT, I THINK MAYBE NEXT WEEK, WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, UM, YOU'LL GET AN AGENDA AND, UM, WE'RE ARRANGING FOR SOME PEOPLE TO COME IN AND, AND TALK WITH EVERYONE.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD IDEAS OF WHAT TO TALK THROUGH AND THAT'LL BE PERTINENT FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, SO REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST PART, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, WAS DOING A TRAINING.
UM, I KNOW WE HAD A CASE TONIGHT, BUT WITH ANTHONY BEING GONE, UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAYBE LOOKING AT THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME TO HAVE A TRAINING AND THE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE, THE PREMISE WOULD BE LOOKING THROUGH NON-USE AREA VARIANCE CRITERIA, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS, HOW, MAYBE JUST A REFRESHER ON WHAT THE CRITERIA ARE AND THINGS TO CONSIDER.
THERE ARE SOME GREAT POINTS THAT WERE MADE TONIGHT THAT I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE AS PART OF THAT, UM, THAT TRAINING AND MAYBE COVER SOME FINISHED CASES
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AS WELL AND, AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP.SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST.
UM, WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT BEFORE THE SUMMER IS OVER, BUT I WILL KEEP EVERYONE POSTED ON THAT.
SO THOSE ARE MY ONLY THREE ITEMS FOR TONIGHT.
UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU WILL BE AVAILABLE OR WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR JULY 16TH ON THAT.
I THINK THAT'S IT FROM OUR STAFF SIDE.
WERE WE SUPPOSED TO ELECT OFFICERS TONIGHT? THAT WAS ON THE BOOK AGENDA, BUT NOT ON THE AGENDA.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAD ON THE AGENDA.
AGENDA, BUT WITHOUT HAVING EVERYONE HERE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ABBY WAS HERE TOO.
AT OUR NEXT MEETING WHEN WE HAVE ALL FIVE, WE WILL SET SOME TIME ASIDE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR YOU ALL TO TALK THROUGH THAT.
DID YOU SAY THE NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR JULY 23RD? IT IS JULY 23RD.
UH, WITH NO OTHER, UH, BUSINESS BEFORE THIS BOARD, WE ARE ADJOURNED.