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AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.YOU CAN JOIN THE MEETING IN PERSON AT 5 5 5 5 PERIMETER DRIVE AND ALSO ACCESS THE MEETING VIA, VIA THE LIVE STREAM ON THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S WEBSITE.
UH, WE WELCOME PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, INCLUDING PUBLIC COMMENT ON CASES, THE STAFF, THE MEETING PROCEDURE FOR EACH CASE THIS EVENING WILL BEGIN WITH A PRESENTATION GIVEN BY, GIVEN BY STAFF, FOLLOWED BY A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT IF DESIRED, THE BOARD WILL THEN ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE DELIBERATING ON EACH CASE.
ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE INVITED TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
FOR EACH APPLICATION, PLEASE ENSURE THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON AND YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND WE REQUEST THAT YOU, UH, YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
UH, SO AS WE START BEFORE, SO WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, INJUSTICE ALL.
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ORDER, I WILL, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO ADJO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE DISCUSSION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS.THE CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC OFFICIAL, PUBLIC OFFICIAL APPOINTMENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO RECONVENE, SO NO.
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SO WE'LL HAVE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ELECT, UH, MR. SEAN, UH, KOTTER AS CHAIR FOR ONE YEAR TERM.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE LISA FOR VICE CHAIR.
[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES ]
UH, I'LL MAKE A, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 24 MEETING.[Case #26-034ARB-MPR]
SO I'M MOVING TO THE CASE.SO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REVIEW, REVIEW OF CONSTRUCTION AND MODIFICATION OR ALTERATIONS TO ANY SITE IN THE AREA SUBJECT TO, TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW UNDER THE PROVISION OF ZONING CODE SECTION 1 53 0.170.
THE BOARD HAS THE DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITY ON THESE CASES.
ANYONE WHO INTENDS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THE CASE, THIS, THE CASES THIS EVENING MUST BE SWORN IN.
SO WHEN EVERYBODY WHO, UM, UH, WANTS TO, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE BOARD, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND ANSWER IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH IN YOUR TESTIMONY TO THIS BOARD? YES.
UM, SO WE'LL START IN THE CASE, CASE NUMBER, UH, 26 DASH THREE FOUR A-R-B-M-R-P SHARPEN RESIDENCE ADDITION, UH, MINOR PROJECT REVIEW THE REQUEST, THE REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A SINGLE STORY ADDITION TO AN EXISTING RESIDENCE.
THE SITE IS ZONED HDHR, HISTORIC DISTRICT, HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL, AND IS LOCATED AT 1 3 4 SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET.
TONIGHT WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR AN ADDITION TO 1 34 SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET.
THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW IS A DUPLEX AND SHARES TWO INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT ARE ZONED HISTORIC DISTRICT, HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL.
UH, IT IS SITUATED ON THE WESTERN BANK OF THE SCIOTO RIVER, LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET AND PINEY HILL LANE.
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UH, THE PHOTOS HERE SHOW THE SITE'S EXISTING CONDITIONS.THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE FROM THE WEST TO EAST, AND A FLOOD PLAIN IS ON THE EASTERN HALF OF THE LOT.
THE ADDITION WILL BE BUILT IN THE GREEN AREAS HIGHLIGHTED HERE OUTSIDE OF THAT FLOODPLAIN, THE PROPERTY HAS SEEN A NUMBER OF CHANGES OVER THE YEARS, STARTING IN 2003, AND MOST RECENTLY HAD AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL TO COVER AN EXISTING DECK.
THERE ARE TWO RETROACTIVE WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT DECK ROOF, AND WE'LL COVER THOSE TONIGHT.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A 140 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK AND IS PROPOSING A ZERO FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS UNDER THE 25% MAXIMUM, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EDITION.
THE ADDITION IS DESIGNED TO VISUALLY INTEGRATE WITH THE HOME WHILE MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE STRUCTURAL SUPPORT ON THE SLOPE SITE.
THE ADDITION WILL BE OFFSET BY 12 INCHES FROM THE EXISTING HOUSE, STAYING CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES.
THE ADDITION WILL BE CLEARLY DISTINGUISHABLE FROM THE ORIGINAL HOME.
THE ROOF LINE IS BELOW THAT OF THE ORIGINAL HOME, AS WELL AS THE MATERIALS BEING DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT VINYL SIDING.
THE ROOF PITCH AND THE ROOF MATERIAL OF THE ADDITION BOTH NEED WAIVERS AS DESCRIBED IN THE REPORT.
SIMILARLY, THE DECK ROOF HIGHLIGHTED IN LIGHT GREEN TO THE RIGHT WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED AS APPROVED IN THE 2024 AA AND NEEDS THE SAME WAIVERS.
STAFF SUPPORTS BOTH OF THESE WAIVERS IN BOTH LOCATIONS BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY ROOF FORM OPTION THAT WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE EXISTING CROSS GABLE SHOWN WITH THE THREE WINDOWS.
ONCE YOU HAVE A ROOF PITCH AS FLAT AS THE DECK, WE ARE LIMITED TO THE MEMBRANE ROOFING.
THE SUPPORTING COLUMNS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE FOR THE ADDITION ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN AS PRESSURE TREATED.
LUMBER, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY INTEND TO WRAP THEM IN THE HARDY PLANK MATERIAL, THUS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS RECOMMENDED TO CLARIFY THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO SUB, UH, PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.
THE SIDING WILL BE THE HARDY PLANK, UH, BOARD AND BATTEN WITH A SMOOTH FACTORY FINISH IN ARCTIC WHITE.
THE WINDOWS WILL BE ANDERSON 100 SERIES CASEMENT WINDOWS PAINTED WHITE, AND THE ROOF MATERIAL FOR THE ADDITION WILL BE THE CARLISLE SURE SEAL, EPDM, WHICH IS A FORM OF RUBBER MEMBRANE.
WE PREVIOUSLY NOTED THE WAIVER REQUIRED FOR THE ROOF MEMBRANE.
THE WINDOW MATERIAL WILL LIKEWISE NEED A WAIVER, AND THIS IS DONE TO MATCH THE EXISTING WINDOWS ON THE BUILDING.
UH, WHICH STAFF SUPPORTS THE MATERIAL SAMPLES ARE HERE IN THE FRONT.
ALL CRITERIA ARE MET OR NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
ALL CRITERIA ARE MET OR NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE ROOF PITCHES.
ALL CRITERIA ARE MET OR NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE WINDOW MATERIAL.
AND ALL CRITERIA ARE MET, ARE MET OR NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE ROOF MATERIALS IN BOTH LOCATIONS.
UH, ALL MINOR PROJECT REVIEW CRITERIA ARE EITHER MET WITH WAIVERS AND CONDITIONS OR ARE NOT APPLICABLE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ALL FOUR WAIVERS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
WE NEED CLARIFICATION OF SUPPORTING COLUMN MATERIALS PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.
MAYBE, I MEAN, IT MAY COME INTO MOTION, BUT, UM, I JUST HAVE ONE.
SO ON THE MEMBRANE, SO IT'S N NOT BEEN, UM, APPROVED BEFORE.
SO THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE PUT ON THE, UH, UH, ALTERNATE MATERIAL LIST.
I, I WOULD, WOULD ASSUME SO IT'LL END UP THERE.
SO JUST FOR ME, I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL CASE, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE FROM, FROM HERE.
THERE'S CERTAINLY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE, UH, WAIVER.
BUT I WANNA BE VERY, FOR ME, VERY CLEAR THAT THERE, I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH PITCH TWO 12 PROBABLY NEEDS MEMBRANE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 3 12, 4 12, BUT SOME POINT HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT WE NOTE THAT IN THE, LET'S SAY, NOTE THAT, THAT WE APPROVE THIS UNDER A VERY SPECIAL CONDITION.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT SOMEHOW SOMEBODY DOESN'T CALL ME, APPROVED A MEMBRANE HERE, THAT THIS MEMBRANE IS REALLY SPEC IN A SPECIAL, SPECIAL CASE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL NOTE THAT SOMEHOW IN THE, IN THE ALTER MATERIAL LIST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'LL NOTE THAT.
DON'T WANT TO BE, WHAT'S THAT? SORRY.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE PRECEDENT SETTING.
THAT'S, I MEAN, FOR ME, THE, THE MAIN THING HERE IS I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T, THIS ISN'T A PRECEDENT SAYS THIS CAN
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BE, EVEN IF IT'S A BACKGROUND BUILDING IN A, IN A SECLUDED AREA, FOR ME, IT'S STILL VER A VERY SPECIAL CASE THAT REQUIRES A SPECIAL, A SPECIAL SITUATION.UH, AS LONG AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE MAIN MEMBRANE ROOF, UM, I ALSO SUPPORT THE APPLICATION.
UM, MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER THE ROOF IS VISIBLE FROM THE RIVER.
UM, AND IF SO, WHETHER ANY CONSIDERATION, UH, WAS GIVEN TO EDGE DETAILING OR, UH, AESTHETIC TREATMENT OF MEMBRANE ROOF? UH, YEAH, WITH THE CURRENT SLOPE OF THE ROOF BEING AS LITTLE AS IT IS, AND THEN THE EXTENDED GRADE CHANGE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RIVER, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THIS ROOF FROM THE RIVER BY ANY MEANS.
UM, AND FOR THE DECK IT'S FLAT, SO YOU DEFINITELY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THAT ROOF MEMBRANE.
HAVE YOU GUYS TAKEN A LOOK AT THE FINISHES? OKAY.
SO, UH, JUST FROM A TWO QUESTIONS.
UH, JUST FOR MY INFORMATION, WHEN WAS THE HOUSE ORIGINALLY BUILT? THAT I DO NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES? I THINK IT WAS SEVENTIES OR, YEAH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN BEFORE THE GUIDELINES.
AND CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR ME WHAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH THE DECK? ROOF WASN'T DONE CORRECTLY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID ORIGINALLY AND CORRECT? YES.
ORIGINALLY THE ROOF WAS MEANT TO MATCH THE SLOPE OF THE EXISTING ROOF AND CONTINUE DOWN.
UM, BUT IT WAS NOT, IT DID NOT END UP GETTING CONSTRUCTED THAT WAY DUE TO, UM, HAVING TO CUT INTO THAT OTHER ROOF.
I AND HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? WHEN WAS IT DONE? 2024.
HA I MEAN, IS THERE ANY, UH, ON THE, ON THE WAIVERS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS? SIDE SETBACK? I THINK WE'RE ROOF PITCHES.
WE TALKED ABOUT WINDOW MATERIAL OR, UH, THE ROOF MATERIALS.
ANY, ANY FINAL COMMENT? ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS? QUESTIONS THEM? UM, DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? WE, WE CAN APPROVE, WE CAN APPROVE THESE IN ONE MOTION, I THINK, RIGHT? WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND THERE.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, UH, NOBODY HAS AN ADDENDUM TO THIS.
SO I THINK IF THERE'S A MOTION TO, UH, LET'S SAY IF WE, UH, OH, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? SORRY, BEFORE I GET, BEFORE I GET OFF TRACK HERE, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, AND I SAW THERE WAS A NOTE FROM THE NEIGHBOR THAT WAS OKAY WITH THAT, SO I THINK THAT'S FINE.
UM, SO DOES ANYBODY WANT A MOTION FOR THE WAIVER REQUESTS? SURE.
UM, MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ALL FOUR WAIVERS AS PRESENTED.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED IF THE APPLICANT HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR CON CONCERNS, SO, OKAY.
BUT MAYBE IF YOU COME OUT, 'CAUSE JUST AS WE GET TO THE MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL, UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UH, CONDITIONS.
JUST IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING, JUST SO WE CAN HEAR YOUR COMMENT, IF YOU CAN JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
UH, YEAH, UH, MY NAME IS LEAH WHITE.
UH, I WORK FOR KITCHEN CRAFT AND MY HOME ADDRESS OR MY WORK ADDRESS.
DO YOU NEED WORK? PROBABLY, YEAH.
7 0 7 9 HUNTLEY ROAD, COLUMBUS, OHIO, 4 3 2 2 9.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE OKAY.
SO I MEAN, IF YOU SEE IN THERE, THERE'S TWO CONDITIONS OF, UH, THERE'S TWO CONDITIONS, UH, IN THE MOTION, UH, ABOUT UPDATED THAT THE COLUMNS WILL BE CLO CLAD IN THE HARDY BOARD AND, UH, YOU'LL HAVE A, THAT THE APPLICANT THAT, THAT THE HOMEOWNER WILL HAVE A, UH, SURVEY OF THE LAND OF THE, OF THE SITE BEFORE THE BUILDING PERMIT.
SO YOU'RE CLEAR AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE YES.
YOU'RE ACTING IN, IN, IN THE OWNER'S BEHALF.
SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THOSE? YES.
ANYBODY HAVE A, OKAY, WE WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, WE NEED A FIRST, FIRST MOTION.
SO IF YOU JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE TWO CONDITIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
APPROVE WITH THE TWO CONDITIONS.
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SARAH, ANY,[COMMUNICATIONS ]
I MEAN, I MAY, THE ONLY THING I KNOW THERE WERE, THERE WERE FIVE OR SIX ADMINISTRATIVE RE UH, ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS THAT WERE ON THERE.I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANY CONCERNS, QUESTIONS, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD A, ANYTHING YOU WANNA, UH, THAT'S, IF, IF THIS IS OKAY, THIS IS THE MOMENT.
UH, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, THAT'S OKAY.
THESE ARE ALL CASES THAT DIDN'T COME TO US.
THESE ARE ALL CASES THAT DIDN'T COME TO US BECAUSE THEY WERE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
AND, UM, SO I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
UH, THOUGH THE DECISION'S BEEN MADE, BUT IT HELPS CLARIFY FOR US WHY THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE.
SO THEY GOT ADMINISTRATIVE, THEY, THERE'S A SECTION THAT LET'S THE, THAT THE LET'S THE STAFF AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, BUT CERTAINLY THEY PUT THEM IN THERE IN CASE WE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ONE OF THEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE COME TO THE BOARD.
I KNOW IT'S YOUR FIRST MEETING, BUT IT'S A BUT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION, I THINK, UH, CERTAINLY SARAH'S HAPPY TO WELL, I HAD TWO QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST ONE WAS FOR THE SIGNS, UM, AND JUST THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY.
THIS WAS THE MEMO REGARDING 24 NORTH HIGH STREET PROJECTING SIGN EDITION.
AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE THE DRAWINGS SHOW TWO DIFFERENT HEIGHTS.
SO ONE IS AT 60 INCHES IN THE ELEVATION, AND THEN THE PHOTO SHOWS IT AT 96 INCHES.
SO JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT THE ACTUAL HEIGHT WAS.
THIS IS THE ARCHITECT SIDE OF ME COMING OUT.
THIS WOULD'VE BEEN FOR THE FRENCH STORE? YES.
UM, I DO, I CAN'T SPEAK TO A DISCREPANCY ON THE DRAWINGS.
I DO KNOW THAT IT WAS APPROVED ACCORDING TO OUR CODE.
AND THEN MY OTHER COMMENT WAS ON IT, WAS IT AROUND THE PARKING FOR ONE OF THE, UM, NOW I CAN'T FIND IT.
I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE RETAIL, GIMME A SECOND HERE.
AND I WAS JUST, UM, IF WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE PARKING AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TURNING RADIUS OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF IT, BUT THAT MAY BE A SEPARATE GROUP, SO IT WAS JUST SOMETHING I NOTED.
AND THAT, THAT WAS ALSO LOOKED AT VERY CAREFULLY BASED ON, AND WE'RE BALANCING SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS PLUS THE DESIRE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LOT PLUS A PARKING PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
YEAH, THOSE WERE THE TWO COMMENTS I HAD.
I THINK OVERALL I LOOKED AT ALL AND THEY LOOKED FOR ME, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD'VE STOOD OUT THAT WOULD WOULD'VE, UH, BENEFITED FROM BEING IN FRONT OF US THAT WOULDN'T HAVE JUST SLOWED THE THING DOWN AND COST PEOPLE MONEY.
SO I THINK FOR ME, UNLESS ANYBODY HAD ANOTHER VIEW NO, I GONNA SAY YOU WANNA MINE.
UM, I KNEW A COUPLE OF THOSE HAD COME THROUGH.
UM, AND JUST KNOWING THAT THOSE CASES EXISTED AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THEM AND WHAT DECISIONS WERE MADE AND WHY, UM, I THINK IT'S VALUABLE FOR US TO GET THOSE.
WE WANNA MAINTAIN TRANSPARENCY AND YOUR TRUST.
AND IF THERE'S EVER ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD DENY ONE, THEY JUST, THEY WOULD END UP HERE THEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW WE WROTE THE THING, BUT IF, IF YOU SAID NO, THEY, THEY WOULD, THEY COULD COME BACK TO US AND, AND ASK TO HAVE IT REVIEWED HERE.
WE'LL SEE ONE OF THOSE NEXT MONTH.
YEAH, I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMUNICATIONS ITEMS AS WELL.
WE'VE, UM, UPLOADED THE, UM, JEFF SPECK PRESENTATION ON WALKABILITY THAT, UM, WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY, OH GOSH, A MONTH AGO OR SO NOW.
AND THAT'S IN YOUR ONBOARD RESOURCES SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT IN CASE YOU COULDN'T ATTEND OR MAYBE YOU WANNA REFER TO IT.
THE BOARD IS ALSO AWARE OF OUR NOMINATIONS FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PRESERVATION COMMISSIONS.
RATTI AND I WORKED ON TWO APPLICATIONS, ONE FOR THE ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS AND
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ONE FOR THE CODE AND GUIDELINE UPDATES.AND I WANTED TO REPORT BACK THAT WE DID HEAR FROM THEM THAT THE ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS ONE WAS REJECTED AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY ACTUALLY LOST THE CODE AND GUIDELINE APPLICATION AND DIDN'T REVIEW IT.
SO WE ARE, YES, WE ARE FRUSTRATED AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO MAYBE, UM, SUBMIT FOR A I A OR A PA OR SOME OTHER VENUE TO USE THOSE APPLICATIONS.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE VERY THOROUGH AND VERY WELL DONE AND TOOK AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME.
SO WE'RE HOPING WE CAN AT LEAST REPURPOSE THEM AND MAYBE GET SOMETHING OUT OF THEM.
UM, THE FINAL ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THE TRAINING SESSION FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COMING UP ON THE 16TH OF JULY.
AND THIS'LL BE OFFICIALLY FROM SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30.
USUALLY WE HAVE DINNER STARTING AT SIX.
YOU'LL RECEIVE INVITATIONS FOR THIS.
BUT WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, WE ARE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
AND AS PART OF THAT, UM, JAMIE GREEN AND HIS STAFF FROM PLANNING NEXT ARE GONNA BE, UM, PROVIDING A SURVEY FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, DUE THE WEEK OF THE 6TH OF JULY.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE SOME TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A VERY GOOD LIVELY DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLIC PROCESS, PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, HOW MEETINGS ARE PUT TOGETHER AND THE, THE RULES AND PROTOCOLS.
AND IT SHOULD BE A VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAD TO REPORT.
SO THAT, SO WE WILL GET AN EMAIL IN OUR, UH, IN NEXT WEEK SOMETIME TO THAT.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? JUST GENERALLY, I'M CONSIDERING PUTTING TOGETHER A NOMINATION FOR, UM, THE APOTHECARY UNCORKED TO HERITAGE OHIO'S, UM, UH, PROJECT AWARDS, WHICH WOULD BE AWARDED IN OCTOBER.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING I SHOULD KNOW, PLEASE SHARE
UM, BUT, UH, I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE A PROJECT WORTHY OF A NOMINATION FOR HERITAGE OHIO'S, SO I'M GONNA ABSOLUTELY, YES.
WE HAVE RECENTLY FOUND AN ARTICLE AND THIS WAS GIVEN TO US OR SHARED WITH US THROUGH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY MM-HMM
WHERE IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THE LOG CABIN FOR THE APOTHECARY IS REALLY DATING TO THE 17 HUNDREDS.
THERE'S TALK ABOUT HOW IT, IT WAS BUILT ALONG THE ORIGINAL, UM, WHAT DO I WANNA SAY? LIKE FOOTPATHS AND, AND NATIVE TRADING ROUTES.
I I REALLY SUPPORT IT WAS BUILT AT THAT LOCATION.
NO, THAT, YEAH, THAT LOG CABIN WAS BUILT BY THE VIRGINIA MILITARY IN ABOUT 1790 AS AN OUTPOST.
THE WYANDOT INDIAN LIVED THERE.
THEY LIVED OVER AN INDIAN RUN.
AND, UM, THAT AREA WAS PART OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORY, PART OF THE VIRGINIA.
AND, AND THEN BECAME PART OF THE VIRGINIA MILITARY DISTRICT AFTER THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, VIRGINIA, ESSENTIALLY.
AND TELL ME IF I'M GOING ON TOO LONG, I COULD, BUT, UH, VIRGINIA ESSENTIALLY CLAIMED ALL THE LAND.
WEST OF THE, UH, UH, UM, UH, THE MOUNTAINS THERE ON THE EAST COAST.
FORGIVE ME, MY MIND IS BLANKING.
APPALACHIANS APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS.
AND, UM, FOLLOWING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, THEY AGREED TO DIVIDE THE LANDS UP WITH OTHER STATES AS PAYMENT FOR THE OFFICERS WHO HAD FOUGHT IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
AND THE AREA BETWEEN THE SCIO RIVER, THE GREAT MIAMI RIVER, UP TO UPPER SANDUSKY WAS PART OF VIRGINIA, THE VIRGINIA MILITARY DISTRICT.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAD THEIR OUTPOST.
UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE VISIT AND THEY WONDER, OH, IS THIS WHERE THEY BATTLED THE INDIANS? NO, THEY DIDN'T BATTLE THE INDIANS THERE.
UH, IN FACT, UH, JOHN SHIELDS WHO SURVEYED THAT LAND PROBABLY USED THAT LOG CABIN IN HIS, UM, IN HIS SURVEYING.
BUT, UH, IT'S SO NEAT WHAT APOTHECARY DID, WHAT THOSE TWO BROTHERS DID, AND, AND JEN, UH, UM,
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UH, TO PRESERVE THAT BUILDING AND TAKE SUCH GREAT CARE OF IT.ANY RECOGNITION WE CAN GET THEM, UH, WOULD BE GREAT.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT BE IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS FOR WHO THAT WE LOOKED AT OR I WASN'T ON HERE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT, BUT, SO IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT IF YOU ONE OF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH ME, BECAUSE THEN I CAN USE THAT IN THE NOMINATION.
AND OF COURSE, TOM HOLTON HIS, UH, HISTORIAN, UH, SUPREME.
UH, AND THEN MAYBE FOR, JUST FOR NEXT MONTH, I MEAN RIVERVIEW, MAYBE IF WE GET A JUST UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE.
I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME STUFF ON RIVERVIEW.
IF YOU CAN JUST MAYBE GIVE US FIVE MINUTES ON JUST YEAH.
AS YOU SAY, THE HOUSES LOOK, THE THREE OF THEM LOOK, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE JUST, JUST MIGHT BE WHERE THEY ARE.
AND WHEN, WHEN WE THINK SOME, 'CAUSE PEOPLE SOMETIMES ASK, UH, THEY'RE NOT MAYBE LIKE, IT FEELS LIKE SOME OF THE PROGRESS IS SLOWER AND MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S JUST AS YOU SAID, MAYBE IT'S WAITING FOR UTILITIES AND OTHER THINGS.
BUT, UH, IF WE HAVE UPDATE, THAT'S WHAT I SUSPECT IS HAPPENING.
THE UTILITY WORK, THE CITY'S PORTION IS SUPPOSED TO START IMMINENTLY ON ALL OF THAT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO SORT OF SET THE FOUNDATION FOR THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND I AM WONDERING IF PERHAPS, SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE OWNERS OF 17 AND 27 NORTH RIVERVIEW, THAT MAYBE THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS COMING AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF HOLDING OFF UNTIL THAT WORK GETS DONE.
WE HAVE ALSO BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNER AT 11 NORTH RIVERVIEW, FORMERLY KNOWN AS 40 EAST BRIDGE.
TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING WITH THAT BECAUSE WE, WE HAD BEEN PROMISED THAT WORK WAS GONNA START ON THAT.
THIS SPRING WITH, YOU KNOW, FINISHING UP OVER THE SUMMER AND WE KNOW WE'RE LAGGING BEHIND.
YEAH, A FEW THINGS THEN I'LL HOPE EVERYBODY WHEN PEOPLE ASK THAT, I'LL GET THAT.
SO I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT.
THE DRY STONE WALL THAT'S YOU TURN ON YOUR, YOU TURN YOUR BACK WAY.
THE DRY STONE WALL THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET.
IS THE CITY GONNA REBUILD THAT AS PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS? YES.
AND THE STONE WALL THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT IS GONNA BE DEMOLISHED, WHICH IS NOT AS OLD, IS THAT, IS THAT GONNA BE GONE? THERE ISN'T GONNA BE ANY DEMOLISHED HOUSES.
SO THE ONE WHERE THE, THE EUROPEAN STYLE CAFE AND THAT HOUSE BEING TAKEN OUT.
THE RED THE RED ONE? NO, THE NO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ON THE END.
THE WHERE THE, THAT 53, IT WON'T BE DEMOLISHED.
OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS, IT WILL NOT BE THE WALL IN FRONT OF THAT I DON'T THINK IS A, IS A CATALOG DESIGNATED HISTORIC WALL, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE GONNA PRESERVE IT.
SO WAS THAT PROPOSED? DID I JUST MISREAD THAT OR, I THOUGHT I, THEY TOOK OUT SOME OUTBUILDINGS.
THEY DID DEMOLISH SOME OUTBUILDINGS.
AND THOSE HAD BEEN GONE FOR A WHILE AND EARLY ON THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT TAKING THAT BUILDING OUT AND THEN THEY SINCE PIVOTED AND WERE ABLE TO SAVE THAT BUILDING.
'CAUSE THAT STREETSCAPE CHARACTER IS REALLY IMPORTANT.