* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] GOOD EVENING. [CALL TO ORDER] I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MONDAY, THE MAY, MONDAY, MAY 11TH, 2026 TO ORDER. JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MS. ALITO? HERE. MAYOR AROSE GROOMS. HERE. VICE MAYOR DEROSA. HERE MS. JOHNSON? HERE. MS. KEELER? HERE. MS. CRAM. HERE. DR. LAMB. HERE. I'LL MAKE A [ADJOURNMENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION] MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF PERSONNEL MATTERS CONSIDERING THE EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. KEELER? YES. AND VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. MS. JOHNSON? YES. DR. LAMB? YES. MAYOR AROSE GROOMS? YES. MS. CRAM? YES. MS. A LUDO? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE VIEWING PUBLIC THAT WE WILL RECONVENE THIS MEETING IN THIS LOCATION AT 7:00 PM THANK YOU. OKAY. WE WILL [RECONVENE (7 P.M.)] RECONVENE THE REGULAR DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MONDAY, MAY 11TH, 2026. AND I HAVE ASKED RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL JEFF NOBLE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ON ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND WE'LL, WE WILL STAY [SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS/RECOGNITION] WITH YOU, LIEUTENANT COLONEL FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY, UH, SPECIAL PRESENTATION. SO WELCOME. WE'RE EXCITED TO HEAR OF YOUR PLANS, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL STAFF. UM, MEMORIAL DAY THIS YEAR, MAY THE 25TH, I BELIEVE. UM, WE WILL HAVE A KEYNOTE SPEAKER BY THE NAME OF COLONEL ANDREW POWERS. HE'S THE COMMANDER OF THE ONE 21ST AERIAL REFUELING WING. HAPPENS TO BE A DUBLIN RESIDENT ALSO, WHICH I DIDN'T REALIZE, UM, SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE HIS UNIT JUST LOST THOSE SIX MEMBERS, UH, HAVING BEEN IN A UNIT THAT LOST MEMBERS. I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. SO, UH, WE WILL KICK OFF AT 11 O'CLOCK FROM SOUTHDALE DRIVE IN FRONT OF THE WENDY'S. YOU ALL ARE INVITED TO WALK WITH US, MARCH WITH US, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. UM, WE'LL DO THE CEREMONY ON THE BRIDGE AS USUAL, THROW THE WREATH IN THE WATER, UM, TO HONOR THOSE WHO NEVER CAME BACK. AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE CEMETERY AND HAVE OUR USUAL, UH, CEREMONY THERE. ALTHOUGH THIS YEAR WE DON'T HAVE A GOLD STAR FAMILY SPEAKER, UH, COLONEL POWERS HAS, I'VE GIVEN HIM UP TO 20 MINUTES. WE'LL SEE HOW HOT IT IS. . UM, AT THE END OF THE CEREMONY, UH, THE DUBLIN JEROME BAND WILL THEN LEAD US ACROSS THE ROAD TO THE PICNIC. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I'M SURE IT'LL BE LOVELY AND THAT'S WONDERFUL THAT, UH, ANDY'S GONNA BE THE SPEAKER. HE'S A DUBLIN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE, LIVED HERE ALL OF HIS LIFE, SO THAT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE, UH, ONE OF OUR OWN BE THE SPEAKER. GOOD. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE PLANNING AND ALL THE EFFORTS YOU PUT INTO MAKING THIS SUCH A SPECIAL DAY FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. OKAY, THIS [CITIZEN COMMENTS] BRINGS US TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA. AS A REMINDER, WE ASK, HOPEFULLY YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN IN THE KIOSK ON YOUR WAY IN. IF NOT, WE WILL RECOGNIZE YOU AFTER ALL OF THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED IN, UH, HAVE TAKEN OPPORTUNITY. SO, LINDSAY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO HAS SIGNED IN TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, ASEN G SIGNED IN FOR SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA. CORRECT. OKAY. GO AHEAD. THANKS. VERY GOOD. IF YOU WOULD JUST STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR THOUGHTS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY OF DUBLIN. MY NAME IS NGAL. I'M A AWARD MARTIAL ARTS CHAMPION, PRESIDENT OF GLOBAL ASIAN CULTURE HERITAGE FOUNDATION. I'M HERE TODAY. TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK THE CITY OF DUBLIN FOR SUPPORTING DIVERSITY CULTURE AND THE COMMUNITY UNITY. RECENTLY, WE SUCCESSFULLY HOST THE OHIO ASIAN CULTURE HERITAGE FESTIVAL, BRING TOGETHER FAMILIES FROM [00:05:01] MANY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS THROUGH MUSIC, MARTIAL ARTS, DANCE, FOOD, AND THE CULTURE EXCHANGE. AS AN ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY LEADER, A DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT SHOWN BY THE CITY OF DUBLIN, THE MAYOR, THE VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF, AND THE VOLUNTEERS. THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. DUBLIN IS BECOMING A MODEL CITY FOR INCLUSION RESPECT AND THE MULTICULTURAL UNDERSTANDING. WE ARE PROUD TO CALL DUBLIN, OUR HOME DUBLIN RESIDENT, SMALL BUSINESS BUSINESS OWNER IN DUBLIN. 11 YEARS GLOBAL, UH, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IS A PART OF DUBLIN BASED IN DUBLIN. ON BEHALF OUR ORGANIZATION AND THE ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING CULTURAL HERITAGE AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. TOGETHER WE CAN CONTINUE BUILDING A STRONGER AND MORE WELCOME DUBLIN FOR EVERYONE. TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK I WOULD LOCK. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE THE 32 ASIAN FESTIVAL IN FRANKLIN PARK MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, MAY 23 THROUGH 24 AT THE FRANKLIN PARK DURING THE PLEASE JOIN US. WE CELEBRATE THE CULTURE COM COMMUNITY, FRIENDSHIP, AND THE UNITY STRONGER TOGETHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS SINGAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALSO, HERE IS THE A SPECIAL GIFT, UH, PROOF. THE BEST PROOF FOR MAYOR. MAYOR AND ALL THE WAY FROM THAILAND. . CAN I GIVE TO MARY RIGHT NOW, ? SURE, SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WOW. SUITABLE FOR FRAMING. WONDERFUL. WELL, THANK YOU. YOU LOOKING SHARP GUYS? ALMOST GOOD THING I DIDN'T WEAR THAT BLOUSE TONIGHT. MAYOR, PLEASE HANG. OH, YOU WANT A PICTURE? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ARE THERE OTHERS? LINDSAY DANIEL HAMILL HAS SIGNED IN. WELCOME. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TO THE RECORD AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR THOUGHTS. I'LL DO THIS FIRST. I FORGOT LAST TIME. DAN HAMILL 5 7 2 5 TRAFALGAR LANE. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I WANNA ADDRESS LAST WEEK'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING WHEN DISCUSSING CODE CHANGES IN THE AREA OF THE WID. THAT'S ID SIX, UH, BEING PROPOSED. UH, MOST OF THE, UH, DISCUSSION, 80 TO 90% OF IT. ONCE AGAIN, UH, LANDED ON LANDSCAPING SETBACKS, SCREENING MOUNDING BY BUSHES AND TREES. THE RESIDENTS HAD TO CONTINUE TO BE THE ONLY PARTY IN THIS DISCUSSION, BRINGING UP RESIDENT SAFETY AS IT AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ID SIX RESEARCH TRANSITION DISTRICT RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR REMOVAL OF R AND D MANUFACTURING IN ID SIX. OR AT THE VERY LEAST, HAVE IT BECOME CONDITIONAL TO GO THROUGH THAT MORE RIGOROUS PROCESS. UH, LOOKING FOR STRONG GUIDELINES FOR THE BYPRODUCTS OF MANUFACTURING AND WASTE STREAMS AS A RESULT OF ADVANCED MANUFACTURING. AS A CLEAR DEFINITION THAT DISTINGUISHES CLEAN MANUFACTURING FROM ADVANCED MANUFACTURING. UH, ALSO A DEFINITION OF GUIDELINES FOR FLEET VEHICLES AND CLEARLY DEFINED PARAMETERS OF HOURS OF OPERATION, INCLUDING SHIPPING AND RECEIVING. IN OTHER WORDS, THE CURRENT CODE LANGUAGE AS IT STATES TODAY IS TOO VAGUE. IT'S TOO AMBIGUOUS. I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS VOICE SIMILAR CONCERNS REGARDING THE CODE LANGUAGE. UH, MS. HARDER STATED THAT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, NOT JUST DEVELOPERS, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ AND [00:10:01] UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE CODE. AND CONDITIONAL USE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HER. UH, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER VOICED CONCERN, UH, REGARDING TOXIC OUTPUT. COMMISSIONER NEWELL HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS HAD, UH, REGARDING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN CLEAN MANUFACTURING AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, AND ALSO CALLING FOR CONDITIONAL USES. CHAIRMAN WAY CONTINUES TO TELL US RESIDENTS THAT COMMISSIONER'S HANDS ARE TIED AND THEY'RE GUIDED BY ALL THE PLANNING AND WORK THAT IS DEVELOPED UP UNTIL NOW. UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO UNTIE PLANNING AND ZONING'S HANDS AND DIRECT THEM TO FOCUS ON PROTECTING RESIDENTS. UH, IDEALLY THE LAND SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH THE WAS IN THE PLAN FROM 2007 UNTIL RECENTLY, AND SUPPORTED BY RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS, AND NOW ZILLOW. I'M SURE YOU ALL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ZILLOW RECENTLY, BUT AT A VERY MINIMUM, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING SHOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE AND WE SHOULD LOOK TO DEVELOP CLEAN MANUFACTURING STANDARDS INSTEAD. LAST THURSDAY, JENNY ROUSE STATED THAT ADDING CERTAIN TYPES OF MANUFACTURING AS CONDITIONAL ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF UNCERTAINTY AND THAT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY. GUYS, THIS IS DUBLIN. OUR HIGH STANDARDS AND DISCERNMENT ARE WHAT ATTRACTS THE TYPE OF BUSINESS WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY TO LOWER THOSE STANDARDS, UH, DOES A DISSERVICE TO ALL AND THE WORK HAS DONE THAT'S COME BEFORE US TODAY. IF YOU'RE, UH, I'D ASK YOU WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY? IS IT MAKING SURE RESIDENTS ARE SAFE OR JUST MAKING SURE THAT AN AREA OF LAND SOMEONE TRIED TO EARMARK FOR A DATA CENTER GETS AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF MANUFACTURING BUILT ON IT? IF YOUR TOP PRIORITIES FOR IN ENVISION DOUBLING ARE KEEPING RESIDENTS SAFE WHILE DEVELOPING A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, UH, THEN YOU UNTIE P AND Z'S HANDS DIRECT THEM TO MAKE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE ID SIX CODE AMENDMENT. AT A VERY MINIMUM, IN MY OPINION, WE ARE NOWHERE CLOSER TO ACCEPTABLE CODE LANGUAGE THAN WE WERE NINE MONTHS AGO WHEN THIS WAS TABLED. CITY STAFF HASN'T EVEN CONSIDERED RESIDENT SAFETY WITH REGARD TO PROPER ADVANCED MANUFACTURING DEFINITIONS. LET'S ACT NOW AND CONTINUE THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN AND NOT MAKE THIS INVASION DUBLIN. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME, EVERYONE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. JENNY ROUSH IS HERE THIS EVENING. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEIR SCHEDULE AND WHAT IS IN THEIR PURVIEW, SHE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE THINGS FOR YOU. LINDSAY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA? HEARING NONE, WE [CONSENT AGENDA] WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A REQUEST TO REMOVE ANY ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT, UH, CONSISTS OF TWO MEETING MINUTES AND AN, UH, EX EXCUSE OF ABSENCE ON MAY THE FOURTH? HEARING NONE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MS. CRAM? YES. MAYOR AROSE GROOM? YES. MR. KEELER? YES. DR. LAMB? YES. MS. SALUTO? YES. MS. JOHNSON? YES. VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. OKAY. THIS BRINGS [Ordinance 27-26] US TO THE INTRODUCTION. FIRST READING ORDINANCE PORTION OF OUR AGENDA. WE WILL BEGIN WITH ORDINANCE 27 DASH 26 AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A PETITION FOR THE REGULAR ANNEXATION OF 201.7 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF PROPERTY FROM DARBY TOWNSHIP, MADISON COUNTY, TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN, OHIO. I REDUCE IT. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD THIS EVENING BY JESSE SHAM. WELCOME. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST READING, UH, TO AUTHORIZE THE LAW DEPARTMENT AS PETITIONER TO SUBMIT, UH, AN A PETITION FOR REGULAR ANNEXATION TO MADISON COUNTY FOR 201.7 ACRES. UH, THIS LAND IS LOCATED AT DARBY TOWNSHIP. UH, IT IS PART OF THE 348.6 ACRE STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION IN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT. AND THIS IS THE COMPANION PIECE TO THE, UH, 146.9 ACRE MUNICIPAL ANNEXATION THAT YOU AUTHORIZED AT THE LAST MEETING. UH, THE REGULAR ANNEXATION PROCESS IS GOVERNED BY REVISED CODE 7 0 9 0 2. UH, IT REQUIRES MAJORITY OF THE REAL ESTATE OWNERS WITHIN THE AREA TO SUBMIT AND FILE THE PETITION. UH, THIS REQUIRES A HEARING BEFORE THE MADISON COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, UH, WHERE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REVIEW OBJECTIVE STATUTORY CRITERIA. UH, IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE MUNICIPAL ANNEXATION PROCESS, UH, AND WE DO THAT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO LATER CONFORM THE TOWNSHIP BOUNDARIES. UH, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR LAND LONGSTANDING POLICY, UH, TO WHEN WE BRING NEW LAND INTO DUBLIN TO BRING IT INTO WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP. UH, MUNICIPAL PROPERTY ANNEXATION DOES NOT ALLOW FOR TOWNSHIP BOUNDARIES TO BE ADJUSTED, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO GO REGULAR IN MADISON COUNTY. UH, AND SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE THE ORDINANCE YOU PASSED LAST TIME. 25 26 WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE MAY 28TH. WE'LL SUBMIT THAT MUNICIPAL ANNEXATION PETITION TO FRANKLIN COUNTY. THEY WILL HEAR IT IN JUNE. UH, IF THIS ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL THEN COMPLETE AND SUBMIT OUR REGULAR ANNEXATION PETITION TO MADISON COUNTY. UH, AND THEY WILL SCHEDULE US FOR A HEARING. I WOULD ANTICIPATE SOMETIME IN JULY OR AUGUST. UH, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT YOU'LL, UH, [00:15:01] ADOPT ORDINANCE 27 26 AT THE MAY 26TH MEETING. HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS. DISCUSSION. OKAY. WE WILL HAVE SECOND READING. PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR MAY THE 26TH OF 2026. THANKS, JESSE. THANKS MA'AM. ORDINANCE 28 DASH [Ordinance 28-26] 26 AUTHORIZED IN THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN INCENTIVES TO SILI CONSTRUCTION COMPANY LLC TO INDUCE IT TO PURCHASE AN OFFICE BUILDING FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE COMPANY'S EXISTING OFFICE AND THE EXPANSION OF THAT OFFICE AND ITS ASSOCIATED OPERATIONS AND WORKFORCE WITHIN THE CITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. HONOR ETT. VERY GOOD. AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD THIS EVENING BY ABBY FALCON. WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYORS MEMBER OF COUNCIL. WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSION WITH RULY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AS THEY'RE CONSIDERING EXPANDING THEIR OPERATIONS TO A NEW LOCATION IN DUBLIN. THEY'RE ALSO CURRENTLY HEADQUARTERED IN DUBLIN. RULY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IS A TOTAL BUILDING RESOURCE COMPANY WITH A VARIETY OF RESOURCES, A VARIETY OF SERVICES INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND DESIGN AND BUILD. SILI ALSO SERVES MANY DIFFERENT MARKETS SUCH AS COMMERCIAL OFFICES AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROPOSED TO SILI CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IS A 10% INFORMANT PERFORMANCE INCENTIVE ON WITHHOLDINGS OVER FIVE YEARS, VALUED AT $185,000 FOR THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT. ADDITIONALLY, THE AGREEMENT INCLUDES A LOCATION GRANT PAYMENT OF $50,000 FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASING A BUILDING WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND RELATED RENOVATION EXPENSES. THE PROJECT WILL RESULT IN THE RETENTION OF 120 EMPLOYEES AND THE CREATION OF 26 EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE CITY BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2032. THE PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO BRING APPROXIMATELY 2.14 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL INCOME TAX WITHHOLDING REVENUE OVER THE TERM OF THE PROJECT STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNCIL APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE ON MAY 26TH, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS. DISCUSSION. OKAY. WELL, WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN SCHEDULED FOR MAY THE 26TH OF 2026. THANK YOU. THIS MOVES US TO [Resolution 24-26] THE INTRODUCTION, PUBLIC HEARING VOTE RESOLUTION, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH RESOLUTION 24 DASH 26, ACCEPTING THE LOWEST AND BEST BID FOR THE STREET LIGHT AND TR TRAFFIC CONTROL UTILITY PAINTING PROJECT. I WANNA DO SO. THANK YOU. AND OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY BOB TAYLOR. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS. SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M PRESENTING RESOLUTION 24 26 ACCEPTING THE LOWEST AND BEST BID FOR THE 2026 STREET LIGHT AND LIGHT CONTROL PAINTING PROJECT. THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS PROJECT PROVIDES PAINTING OF VARIOUS LIGHT POLES AND STREET LIGHT POLES, AS WELL AS LIGHTING AND TRAFFIC CONTROL CABINETS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE WORK INCLUDES, UM, PAINTING OF 222 POLES, 84 STREETLIGHT CABINETS, AND 30 SIGNAL CONTROL CABINETS. THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR THIS PROJECT WAS 175,000 AND WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS ON THIS PROJECT. PUBLIC WORKS PAINTING SUBMITTED THE LOWEST BID OF $109,044 AND 4 CENTS, WHICH IS 37.7% BELOW THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. AND 65,955 AND 96 CENTS LESS THAN THE BUDGETED FUNDS. ALTHOUGH PUBLIC WORKS PAINTING HAS NOT PERFORMED ANY WORK WITHIN DUBLIN BEFORE WE DID, UH, CHECK REFERENCES FROM THEM AND RECEIVED POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND FEEL CONFIDENT THEY CAN PERFORM THE WORK SATISFACTORY. THE WORK FOR THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO COMMENCE IN MAY OF 2026 AND BE COMPLETED BY OCTOBER OF 2026. STAFF RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVE RESOLUTION 24 26 ACCEPTING AS LOWEST AND BEST BID THE BID OF PUBLIC WORKS PAINTING IN THE AMOUNT OF $109,044 AND 4 CENTS IN AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH PUBLIC WORKS PAINTING FOR THIS PROJECT. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YOU WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? SO I'M CURIOUS, IS THIS SCOPE ALL OF THE POLES AND BOXES AND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS DONE? OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE DO PERIODICALLY AS WE DO ALL OF OUR OTHER MAINTENANCE PROJECTS? THIS IS A SEGMENT OF THE POLES. I THINK WE HAVE 2000 AND SOME STREET LIGHT POLES. WELL, I MEAN, ARE THESE ALL THE ONES THAT NEED FIXED AT AT THIS TIME? OH, YES. BASED ON OUR [00:20:01] INSPECTION DATA. JUST LIKE ALL OF OUR OTHER ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, WERE, WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT WORK ON THE RIGHT ASSETS. WELL, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE 66,000 LOWER IN BUDGET. YEAH. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL POLLS THAT WE SHOULD BE LIKE DOING TO GET AHEAD OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS EXTRA BUDGET. OH, I UNDERSTAND. UM, THIS WAS ALL THE POLLS THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING PAIN AT THIS TIME. OKAY. SO THERE'S THERE'S NOT SOME LIKE THAT YOU SET ASIDE LIKE, OH, WE'LL DO THOSE NEXT YEAR. SO WE KEEP IT WITHIN BUDGET. CORRECT. GOT IT. ALRIGHT, THANKS. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MAYOR AROSE GROOMS? YES. MS. CRAM? YES. MS. JOHNSON? YES. VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. MR. KEELER? YES. DR. LAMB? YES. MS. SALUTO? YES. OKAY. THIS BRINGS [OTHER BUSINESS] US TO THE OTHER BUSINESS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA AND WE WILL RE BEGIN WITH THE REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RECLASSIFICATION OF A POSITION IN THE LEG DIVISION OF LEG LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS. AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD THIS EVENING BY JENNIFER METI. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. DUE TO THE RECENT VACANCY OF THE ASSISTANT CLERK IN THE DIVISION OF LEGISLATIVE SERVICES, STAFF INITIATED AN EVALUATION CONSISTENT WITH OUR VACANCY REVIEW PROCESS. STAFF RECOMMENDS RECLASSIFYING THE ASSISTANT CLERK TO A DEPUTY CLERK, WHICH WILL ENSURE A MORE BALANCED DISTRIBUTION OF RESPONSIBILITIES AND A CONTINUED ABILITY TO MEET ORGANIZATIONAL GOALS AND NEEDS BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. MORE DETAILS ARE INCLUDED IN THE MEMO IN YOUR PACKET. THE ANNUAL BUDGETARY IMPACT FROM THIS CHANGE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $7,800. IF APPROVED STAFF WILL ENSURE THE CHANGES REFLECTED IN THE 2027 OPERATING BUDGET. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YOU WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS. DISCUSSION. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECLASSIFICATION OF A POSITION IN THE DIVISION OF LEGISLATIVE SERVICES. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. MAYOR AROSE GROOMS? YES. MS. JOHNSON? YES. DR. LAMB? YES. MS. SALUTO? YES. MR. KEELER? YES. MS. CRAM? YES. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM, ANOTHER BUSINESS IS DEAR MANAGEMENT. AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY EMILY GOVER. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. AS COUNSEL IS AWARE, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION FOR, UM, A LITTLE OVER FOUR YEARS NOW, AS WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING THIS AT CSAC, CSAC HAD BROUGHT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION, UM, IN 2023 TO ADOPT AN OUTDOOR FEEDING ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD PROHIBIT THE FEEDING OF WILD ANIMALS IN DUBLIN, UM, AND ANIMALS RUNNING AT LARGE. AND THAT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AT THE NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023 MEETING. ODNR CAME AND PRESENTED TO CSAC AT ITS NOVEMBER 25TH, 2024 MEETING. AND FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WERE HELD IN FEBRUARY, 2025. EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE PROVIDED A DATA AND BENCHMARKING UPDATE TO CSAC AT THE JANUARY 14TH MEETING. AND THEN WE REVIEWED THE SURVEY RESULTS OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WAS HELD EARLIER THIS YEAR AT THE FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING. UM, WE ALSO WERE FORTUNATE TO HAVE EXPERTS FROM OHIO STATE AND METRO PARK SPEAK TO CSAC AT THAT MEETING. AFTER THAT MEETING THE MARCH 9TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CSAC CHAIR PROVIDED A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL ON THEIR FINDINGS OVER THE SEVERAL YEARS OF REVIEW. AND THEN, UH, MOST RECENTLY AT THE APRIL 20TH WORK SESSION, COUNCIL HEARD FROM LOCAL SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM ODNR OHIO STATE METRO PARKS, UM, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND REVIEW ALL OF THE FINDINGS FROM THAT. SO, UM, WE ASKED COUNCIL SEVERAL QUESTIONS AT THAT APRIL 20TH WORK SESSION. DOES COUNCIL WISH TO PROCEED WITH A LETHAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM? WE HEARD MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR PROCEEDING WITH A LETHAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS WERE, UM, CITED AS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT STEMMING FROM AGGRESSIVE DEER ENCOUNTERS. UM, THOSE INCLUDE ABOUT 20 REPORTS OF DOGS ATTACKED BY DEER, DEER AND 35 REPORTS OF DEER STALKING OR CHASING IN 2025. THIS ALSO WAS INFORMED BY THE COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS, WHICH INDICATED 59% OF RESPONDENTS THINK THAT THE POPULATION SHOULD BE MANAGED AND THEN THE ECOLOGICAL IMPACTS THAT WERE SHARED BY THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. FURTHER, 49% OF RESPONDENTS TO THE COMMUNITY SURVEY INDICATED SUPPORT FOR LETHAL METHODS. 18% RESPONDED THAT THEY NEITHER SUPPORT NOR OPPOSE LETHAL METHODS, AND 33% INDICATED THAT THEY OPPOSE LETHAL METHODS. THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, IS COUNCIL SUPPORTIVE OF THE GOALS IDENTIFIED IN THE CSAC REPORT? COUNCIL EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE GOALS ESTABLISHING, UM, HIGHER LEVEL BUCKETS TO, UH, KIND OF BE THE THEMES OF THOSE GOALS. THERE WAS ALSO WIDESPREAD [00:25:01] SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. AND THE EXPERTS THAT JOINED THAT MEETING EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF CLEAR AND CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION. WHEN DISCUSSING THIS, DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT INITIATING A PROGRAM? THIS UPCOMING WINTER COUNCIL EXPRESS GENERAL SUPPORT FOR INITIATING A PROGRAM THIS UPCOMING WINTER IF FEASIBLE, PENDING DISCUSSIONS WITH USDA WILDLIFE SERVICES IS COUNCIL SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF CONTRACTING WITH DARK HORIZON DRONES TO CONDUCT A CITYWIDE DEER POPULATION INDEX SURVEY. UM, COUNCIL AT THAT MEETING PR UH, PROVIDED UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR CONDUCTING A BASELINE POPULATION ESTIMATE USING THE DRONE SURVEY, WHICH WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. AND THEN, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL REQUIRES TO INFORM A DECISION? SO COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING WHERE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS COULD FEASIBLY TAKE PLACE IN DUBLIN. AND COUNCIL SUPPORTED ESTABLISHING AN ETHICS STATEMENT TO HELP INFORM A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN. SO JUST TO TALK ABOUT SOME DEFINITIONS THAT ARE THROWN AROUND PRETTY FREQUENTLY WHEN DISCUSSING DEER MANAGEMENT FIRST, BIOLOGICAL CARRYING CAPACITY. SO THIS INCLUDES ALL ELEMENTS INCLUDING FOOD, WATER, THE COVER AND SPACE REQUIRED FOR A HEALTHY WILDLIFE POPULATION. WHEN THE NUMBER OF D DEER, UM, THIS WAS THE EXAMPLE OF THE BUCKET THAT WAS USED AT APRIL, AT THE APRIL 20TH WORK SESSION. SO WHEN THE NUMBER OF DEER EXCEEDS WHAT THE LANDSCAPE CAN MANAGE, THEN THEY WILL EXPERIENCE A RAPID REDUCTION SOCIOLOGICAL CARRYING CAPACITY. THIS OCCURS WHEN RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE REACHED THEIR TOLERANCE FOR LIVING WITH WILDLIFE. A BIOLOGICAL BENCHMARK IS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A HEALTHY POPULATION OF DEER, WHICH IS AROUND 20 TO 25 DEER PER SQUARE MILE. AND THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE CAPSTONE REPORT THAT WAS DELIVERED TO US BY OHIO STATE STUDENTS IN 2023. IN DISCUSSING WITH O-D-N-R-O-D-N-R HAS ADVISED THAT DUBLIN IS NOT CURRENTLY AT BIOLOGICAL CARRYING CAPACITY BECAUSE OF THE ABSENCE OF WIDESPREAD DISEASE STARVATION OR A SUSTAINED RISE IN SEVERE DEER VEHICLE COLLISIONS. SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE HAD 20 REPORTS OF DOG ATTACKS AND 35 REPORTS OF STALKING OR CHASING INCIDENTS IN 2025 THAT IS, UM, A HIGH NUMBER MORE THAN WHAT WAS REPORTED IN 2023 AND 2024, WHICH WAS THREE AND FOUR RESPECTIVELY. WITH THE SURVEY RESULTS, UH, AS PART OF THE OPEN-ENDED SURVEY RESPONSES, WE RECEIVED 120 REPORTS THAT A DEER HAD ATTACKED, STOMPED, KICKED GORED, HEADBUTTED CHARGED OR OTHERWISE INJURED A PET. UM, AND FOUR REF. THERE WERE FOUR REFERENCES TO A PET BEING KILLED AS WELL AS 45 DISTINCT REFERENCES TO DEER CHASING AND OR STALKING PEOPLE. SO THOSE, THOSE FIRST NUMBERS THAT I MENTIONED, THOSE ARE WHAT WE RECEIVED REPORTS OF DIRECTLY. THE SECOND SET OF NUMBERS IS WHAT WAS INFORMED BY THE SURVEY. SO WE LAUNCHED THE COMMUNITY SURVEY ON JANUARY 6TH. IT WAS OPEN FOR APPROXIMATELY SEVEN WEEKS. UM, WE RECEIVED 3,656 RESPONSES. AND SINCE IT CLOSED, UM, I'VE STILL BEEN FIELDING QUESTIONS AND TALKING TO RESIDENTS. AND SO SINCE THEN, THERE HAVE BEEN 11 CONTACTS AND NINE SUPPORT MANAGEMENT. SO THE CITYWIDE DEER POPULATION INDEX SURVEY, UM, DARK HORIZON DRONES FLEW TWO DRONES IN THE EVENING FROM FRIDAY, APRIL 24TH TO MONDAY, APRIL 27TH. THEIR PROCESS WAS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY HAD DONE FOR UPPER ARLINGTON AND FOR METRO PARKS. THEY FLEW HIGH RESOLUTION THERMAL IMAGING DRONES IN A SYSTEMATIC GRID PATTERN, AND THEY COUNTED A TOTAL OF 528 DEER, WHICH HELPS US ESTABLISH A BASELINE POPULATION ESTIMATE. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN THOSE DAYS OF WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE 528 DEER. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER DATA POINT TO HELP INFORM A DECISION AND TO TRACK PROGRESS. AND WE WERE PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE HOTSPOTS THAT THEY FOUND WHILE FLYING THE DRONES REALLY ALIGNED WITH WHERE DUBLIN POLICE DEPARTMENT FLEW THERMAL IMAGING DRONES IN FEBRUARY, WHICH AGAIN, IS A DATA POINT THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP INFORM REMOVAL LOCATION DISCUSSIONS, AND TRACK PROGRESS. WHEN WE LOOK AT MANAGEMENT OPTIONS, WE, THE FIRST RECOMMENDED ONE BY ODNR IS AN OUTDOOR FEEDING PRO PROHIBITION, WHICH DUBLIN ADOPTED IN 2023. THE SECOND ONE THAT GETS MENTIONED OFTEN IS A RELOCATION PROGRAM. BUT PER ORC CHAPTER 1, 5 3, 1, IT'S ILLEGAL TO TRAP AND RELOCATE DEER BECAUSE IT CAUSES, UM, UH, A HIGH LEVEL AND POTENTIALLY LETHAL LEVEL OF STRESS TO THE DEER. AND IT CAN ALSO LEAD TO DISEASE SPREAD. ADDITIONALLY, PEOPLE WILL ASK ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL AS A MANAGEMENT OPTION. THIS COULD INCLUDE SURGICAL STERILIZATION AND CONTRACEPTIVES. AND GENERALLY THESE ARE ONLY GONNA BE APPROVED FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES. THERE'S A LIMITED EFFECTIVENESS SEEN IN AN OPEN HERD LIKE DUBLIN. IT WON'T REDUCE THE EXISTING POPULATION AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE DOSE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT LETHAL OPTIONS [00:30:01] FOR MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE TARGETED REMOVAL. SO THIS WOULD BE WHERE THE CITY CONTRACTS WITH TRAINED PROFESSIONALS, THE PROFESSIONALS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SELECT REMOVAL SITES. OPERATIONS ARE CONNECT CONDUCTED OVERNIGHT, AND IT IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO REDUCE THE POPULATION. UM, THE DEER CAN BE PICKED UP WHOLE OR FIELD DRESSED AND SENT FOR PROCESSING. AND THAT PROCESS VENISON CAN BE DONATED TO SUPPORT LOCAL FOOD PANTRIES. ANOTHER OPTION FOR LETHAL MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS ALSO DONE IN OHIO, IS, UM, ARCHERY PROGRAMS. THERE'S A LOWER DIRECT COST TO THIS, BUT THERE IS A HIGH LEVEL OF STAFF INVOLVEMENT WITH OVERSIGHT AND PERMITTING DONE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS LESS EFFECTIVE AT QUICKLY REDUCING A POPULATION AND TENDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMPLIMENTS A, UM, TARGETED REMOVAL PROGRAM. UM, AND IT IS A LONG-TERM COST-EFFECTIVE PROGRAM THAT CAN BE DONE WITH WHEN COUPLED WITH A TARGETED REMOVAL PROGRAM. AS WE LOOK AT NEXT STEPS UPON DIRECTION FROM COUNCILS, WE WILL BEGIN WORKING WITH USDA TO NEGOTIATE A SCOPE OF CONTRACT THAT INCLUDES COORDINATION ON BAITING STATION TIMES AND LOCATIONS FOR REMOVALS. UM, USDA REMOVAL OF DEER BY PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED SHARP SHOOTERS. UM, THEY WOULD BE USING RIFLES WITH NOISE SUPPRESSION DEVICES. USDA TRANSPORTS THE INTACT DEER CARCASSES TO A FACILITY TO BE PROCESSED. THEY DO ALL OF THE COLLECTION OF THE DATA THAT INCLUDES THE WEIGHT, SEX, AND AGE OF THE DEER. AND THEN THEY DELIVER THE DEER TO THE PROCESSOR THE FOLLOWING MORNING AFTER THE MANAGEMENT OPERATION. SO WE WOULD WORK WITH, UH, USDA TO DETERMINE THE GOAL NUMBER OF DEER TO BE REMOVED. THIS WOULD BE BASED ON STAFFING AVAILABILITY FROM THEIR END AND OTHER COMPONENTS RELATED TO ESTABLISHING WHAT'S A FEASIBLE NUMBER TO REMOVE. AND WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, UM, SHOULD WE RECEIVE DIRECTION THIS EVENING, BRINGING FORWARD A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE ANIMAL AND PLANT HEALTH INSPECTION SERVICE WILDLIFE SERVICES ON JUNE 8TH. AND THAT WOULD BE PENDING THE STATUS OF CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND WHERE WE ARE AT WITH USDA AT THAT TIME. WE WOULD ALSO BE WORKING TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATIONS PLAN. AND THIS WOULD BE ALIGNED WITH USDA'S RECOMMENDED MESSAGING, METRO PARK'S RECOMMENDED MESSAGING, UH, FOCUSING ON THE ECOSYSTEM IMPACTS, THE ETHICS, THE SAFETY, AND THE ANIMAL WELFARE OF A PROGRAM. WE WOULD ALSO HOLD MULTIPLE ED PUBLIC EDUCATION MEETINGS AND UTILIZE ALL OF OUR EXISTING COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING CHANNELS TO REACH AS MUCH OF THE POPULATION AS POSSIBLE. SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS ESTABLISHING A DEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM CONSISTING OF TARGETED REMOVAL CONDUCTED BY PROFESSIONAL MARX PEOPLE WITH THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM TO BE REDUCING AGGRESSIVE DEER ENCOUNTERS, REDUCING DEER IN VEHICLE COLLISIONS OR NEAR COLLISIONS, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF DEAD ANIMAL PICK DEAD DEER PICKUPS, EXCUSE ME, LIMITING PROPERTY AND LANDSCAPE DAMAGE, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF RESIDENT COMPLAINTS AND REDUCING THE DEER POPULATION AS INFORMED BY AN ANNUAL POPULATION INDEX TO ADVANCE. THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH USDA TO CONDUCT TARGETED MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS WITH TIMING AND ALL OTHER DETAILS SUCH AS LOCATIONS TO BE DETERMINED AS PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION, EMILY. SO YOU MENTIONED, SO THIS VOTE IS JUST SO YOU CAN START TALKING TO USDA, RIGHT? THIS ISN'T THE AGREEMENT. AND YOU MENTIONED WE MIGHT SEE THAT BACK ON JUNE, THE AGREEMENT ITSELF ON JUNE 8TH, WOULD THAT AGREEMENT INCLUDE THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN? LIKE SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE LOCATIONS AND HOW MANY DEER THEY THINK THEY CAN REMOVE AND THE COST, WOULD THAT BE IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE? SO WE WOULD GET THOSE DETAILS? YES. YES. SO THE LOCATION, UM, THAT WILL ALL BE INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT WITH THEM, UM, THE, THE NUMBER OF DEAR AND, UH, WE COULD BRING FORWARD THE COMMUNICATIONS PLAN. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF CON CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS THAT NEED TO BE CONDUCTED. OKAY. SO THE VOTE TODAY THOUGH IS JUST SO YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY APPROVING THE PLAN WITH THIS VOTE, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE FIGURED OUT AS PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK, UM, FOR THE CONTRACT. OKAY. AND THE, WE, THE CONTRACT WOULD HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE YOU INTENDED THE LOCATIONS AND ALL THAT DETAIL. UM, AT, AT THIS POINT, YES. THAT THAT'S WHAT, UM, THAT THE YEAH. 'CAUSE IT WOULD NEED TO BE PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH THEM. OKAY. I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT THIS VOTE IS JUST SO YOU CAN START TALKING TO 'EM. EXACTLY. WE'RE [00:35:01] NOT ACTUALLY, LIKE, WE CAN CHANGE OUR MIND AND SAY WE DON'T WANNA DO IT BASED ON ADDITIONAL DETAILS. CORRECT. GOT IT. THANKS. OTHER COMMENTS? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL ADMIT, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS TO, UH, COVERING THIS TOPIC, I WAS REALLY CONCERNED WITH THE AGGRESSIVE DEER ENCOUNTERS, THE GORING OF PETS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. BUT THE GENTLEMAN FROM ODNR COLUMBUS AND FRANKLIN COUNTY METRO PARKS AND OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY REALLY OPENED MY MIND TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT THE DEER HAVE. UM, THEY'RE NOT GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY CARRY TICKS, WHICH CARRY LYME DISEASE, SO THEY SPREAD LYME DISEASE, THEY PREFER NATIVE PLANTS OVER OTHER THINGS. SO THEY LOVE HONEYSUCKLE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THEY PREFER NATIVE PLANTS TO THE HONEYSUCKLE. THIS WHOLE CONCEPT OF AN ETHIC, ETHIC STATEMENT, AT FIRST, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? BUT IT REALLY HELPS RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO TREAT THESE ANIMALS HUMANELY. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO SUFFER, SUFFER LIKE MAYBE SOME OF THE PETS THAT THEY GORED OR STOMPED DID. UM, WE WANNA HELP RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THE ECOLOGICAL IMPACT OF TOO MANY DEER. UM, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OF PUBLIC SAFETY. WE CAN FEED THE HUNGRY WITH, WITH THE, THE VENISON THAT COMES FROM THE DEER, WE CAN AVOID THE SPREAD OF LYME DISEASE AND WE CAN ALLOW THE NATIVE SPECIES TO RECOVER. SO I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF PURSUING THIS, UM, DEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANKS, ANDY. I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S ON MY MIND. AND I, I I'M GONNA EXPAND ON IT JUST A LITTLE BIT. UM, AS PART OF THE, UM, ENVIRONMENT, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF A POTENTIAL DEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, I WOULD LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT SOME OF THE IMPACTS ARE AND, AND IF WE REDUCE THE, THE HERD POPULATION, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? RIGHT. WE HEARD VERY CLEARLY FROM THE EXPERTS THAT WHEN THE DEER, UH, DEMOLISH BRUSH RIGHT THEN YOUR BRUSH DWELLING ANIMALS CAN'T LIVE THERE 'CAUSE THERE'S NO BRUSH TO HIDE IN. THEY EAT, UM, NATIVE AND SOMETIMES RARE SPECIES OF PLANTS. SO I, I WOULD, I I JUST WANT THAT TO BE, I, YES, ALL THE SAFETY STUFF, ALL THAT STUFF, ALL THAT STUFF IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. BUT I I, I DO WANT THERE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN EMPHASIS BECAUSE THE DEER HAVE AN IMPACT IN OTHER SPECIES THAT WE, WE SENT SORT OF TEND TO NEGLECT. AND, AND LIKE ANDY, THAT CONVERSATION REALLY OPENED MY EYES TO THE IMPACT OF THE NUMBER OF DEER. AND, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE, THE NUMBER OF DEER WHO WERE HERE BEFORE HUMANS WAS FAR LESS THAN THE NUMBER OF DEER WE HAVE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE BROUGHT THEM A SMORGASBORG WITH ALL OF OUR LOVELY PLANTS THAT WE PUT ON EVERYWHERE. SO I JUST THINK THAT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CAPTURING, UM, IN, IN ANYTHING AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, LIKE THERE, I DON'T SEE FOX WHERE I AM ANYMORE, AND I WONDER IF THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO BRUSH FOR THEM TO GO BUILD THEIR DENS IN. SO TO ME THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE SAFETY'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, UM, BUT I, I JUST DON'T WANNA LEAVE THAT PART OUT. THANK YOU. EMILY, WERE THERE ANY SURPRISES IN THE DRONE STUDY, IN THE DRONE SURVEY? OR WAS IT ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECTED POPULATION-WISE? IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECTED POPULATION-WISE. I WOULD SAY THAT THERE WERE MORE DEER IN WARD TWO AREA THAN, UM, WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT. SO, UM, IT WAS GOOD TO HAVE THAT 'CAUSE WE DON'T HEAR AS MANY COMPLAINTS IN THAT AREA, BUT, UH, NOW WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE AND THAT IT IS PRETTY EVENLY SPREAD ACROSS THE FOUR SECTORS OF THE CITY. OKAY. AND I JUST GOT MY FIRST, THERE'S DEER IN MY BACKYARD NOTICE, SO I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT NUMBER IN IN WARD TWO. UM, IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, IT, WE ARE AT THAT ECOLOGICAL CARRYING CAPACITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO, IF THAT 500 ROUGH 500 NUMBER WAS IN SCOPE OF WHAT WE HAD THOUGHT, SO THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH EMILY. SO, UH, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND ALSO SOME COMMENTS TOO, ACTUALLY. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALER'S POINTS, I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOOD ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE ARGUMENT, UH, TO THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT ABOUT LIMITING PROPERTY AND LANDSCAPE DAMAGE IS IMPORTANT, AND WE DO HEAR THAT COMPLAINT, BUT I THINK WHAT REALLY RESONATED WITH COUNCIL WAS THE ECOLOGICAL ASPECTS OF IT, UM, FROM A HEALTH PERSPECTIVE. AND ACTUALLY, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THE TICK THINGS BECAUSE I THINK MR. KARIN HAD MENTIONED THAT WITH INCREASED DEER, YOU GET INCREASED TICKS, TICK BURDEN WHEN INCREASED TICK BURDEN, WE SEE A LOT MORE LYME DISEASE. AND AS A PHYSICIAN, ACTUALLY I HAVE PATIENTS COMING TO TALK WITH ME ON LYME'S DISEASE ALL THE TIME AND THE [00:40:01] LIFELONG ADVERSE EFFECTS OF THAT. AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A GOOD THING TO ACTUALLY PUT UNDER PUBLIC, UM, SAFETY AS WELL. UM, THE ETHICS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IN FACT, I THINK THAT WHEN WE MAKE THE ARGUMENT TO THE RESIDENTS, UM, SOME OF THE BIG THINGS WE SHOULD FOCUS ON IS PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT ALSO ETHICS. AND THEN ALSO ALONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAD MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, FEEDING THE PEOPLE WITH THE FOOD PANTRY. I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. A COUPLE QUESTIONS THOUGH. SO, UM, THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO START CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH USDA? CORRECT. UM, AND IS THE THOUGHT THAT WE TRY TO IMPLEMENT THE, UH, THE DEER MANAGEMENT, UH, PROGRAM THIS YEAR? SO THAT'S, THAT'S STILL IF, IF FEASIBLE WITH USDA, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM BASED ON THEIR AVAILABLE STAFFING, OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO OTHER CITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS TAKING A, LIKE AT THE WORTHINGTON, UM, EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD GIVEN NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME. AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, FOR INSTANCE, COMING THIS WINTER, THEN WE'D HAVE TO START GIVING NOTICE THIS JULY. UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF ISSUES WITH HOW THEY GAVE NOTICE. AND SO, AND FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THEY HAD A SPIKE IN, UM, UM, COMPLAINTS AND ALSO CONCERNS WHEN THEY GIVE, WHEN THEY GIVE NOTIFICATION. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME CLEAR TO US WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO THE EXPERTS IS THAT THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS IS GONNA BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT PRIOR TO THAT. UM, JUST SO RESIDENTS CAN UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS AND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND THE ETHICAL VALUE, UH, OF DOING THIS AS WELL TOO. UM, AND THEN ALSO, I KNOW THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THIS, WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE, THE, UM, ODNR DEER DAMAGE CONTROL PERMIT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE DONE FIRST. SO THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME. UM, SO, UM, USDA WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, LIKELY SUBMIT THAT ON OUR BEHALF TO ODNR FOR THAT. UM, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM. AND, UM, SO WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER WITH, WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH USDA WOULD BE OUR DEER MANAGEMENT PLAN, KIND OF THE COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT. UM, AND THEN FOR EACH DEER MANAGEMENT PERMIT, THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF DEER THAT WERE INTENDED TO BE, UH, REMOVED IN THAT YEAR. YEAH. AND THEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DEER, BECAUSE WITH THE SURVEY THAT WE DID, THAT WAS BEFORE THE FAWNS WERE BORN. AND SO THAT NUMBER'S GONNA INCREASE. UM, AND SO THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT THAT IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT. AND ALSO JUST THE WAY THAT WE ACTUALLY TARGET THE DEER TOO, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THEY HAD SAID WAS THAT IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE REALLY HAVE TO TARGET ABOUT REMOVAL, ABOUT 80% OF THE FEMALE POPULATION. IF WE REMOVE 64, I THINK THEY SAID THAT JUST MAINTAINS THE POPULATION. AND SO WHEN YOU DO THE CALCULATIONS, IT'S GONNA BE WAY MORE THAN THE 100 DEER THAT WORTHINGTON REMOVED. WE'RE TALKING CLOSER TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE, 400 DEER. AND SO I THINK THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE KIND OF FIGURED OUT. AND THE LAST THING I'LL ASK IS, YOU KNOW, WORTHINGTON HAD A DEER ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, OR YEAH, A DEER ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THAT HERE IN DUBLIN AS WELL? UM, THEY HAD THAT FIVE MEMBER COMMITTEE, ONE OF WHOM WAS THE DEAR EXPERT, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS ACTUALLY VERY HELPFUL IN GUIDING THE COMMITTEE AND HOW THEY EDUCATED THE PUBLIC AND HOW THEY APPROACH THE LONG-TERM DEER MANAGEMENT. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF DOING THAT HERE IN DUBLIN? WE'VE BEEN REALLY FORTUNATE. WE'VE ACTUALLY, UM, GARY COMER FROM ODNR, WHO WAS WITH US AT THE APRIL 20TH WORK SESSION, HE IS ALSO ON THE DEER ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WORTHINGTON. SO WE'VE KIND OF STOLEN SOME OF THEIR MEMBERS TO COME HELP US AND, AND PROVIDE THAT EDUCATION. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE CSAC WHO HAS SERVED AS THE RESIDENT SOUNDING BOARD ON THIS. SO SIMILAR TO KIND OF THE MAKEUP THAT, UH, THAT WORTHINGTON'S HAD, THEY HAVE RESIDENT MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL. UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE OF THESE, THESE ADVISORS THAT ARE COMING INTO THESE MEETINGS TO SPEAK WITH CSAC AND ALSO HAVE THE RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE INCLUDED. SO, UM, OUR APPROACH HAS BEEN LEVERAGING, UH, THE INFORMATION FROM CSAC AS WELL AS, UH, LEANING ON THE EXPERTS TO HELP INFORM THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT, BUT IS THERE A LONG-TERM COMMITTEE FROM THAT? BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG-TERM PROCESS, UM, AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING ALARM TERM COMMITTEE IS THAT IT DOES SORT OF ACT AS A BUFFER FOR COUNCIL, BUT THEY CAN GIVE ONGOING ADVICE RATHER THAN SORT OF AN AD HOC KIND OF THING. IS, WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THAT AS A LONG TERM, UM, UH, THING? UM, AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. UM, IF, IF THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS OF THAT. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW THAT WORTHINGTON, UM, THEY HAVE THEIR, THEIR DEER MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEY ADOPTED OR THEY RECOMMENDED THE DEER MANAGEMENT PLAN. UM, AND SO THEY ARE KIND OF PROVIDING THE ANNUAL, GOING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO SAY WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK, COMMUNICATIONS WISE, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD DEFINITELY SEE CSAC, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS BACKGROUND AND THEY KNOW ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS FROM 2022 TO TODAY, UM, GOING BACK TO CSAC AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE PLAN THAT WE ADOPTED BASED ON ALL OF THE INFORMATION, OR HERE'S THE PLAN THAT WE PUT TOGETHER BASED ON ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND HOW DID THIS YEAR ONE GO AND, AND COMING BACK TO THEM FOR ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. AND THAT'S THE ROLE THAT THE, THE, THE WORTHINGTON, [00:45:01] UM, ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS PLAYING AND THAT WE COULD LEAN ON CSAC FOR AS WELL. SO, SO THE THOUGHT IS CSAC WOULD BE THE DEFACTO DEAR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. OKAY. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU EMILY. AND, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT THIS HAS BEEN A THREE PLUS YEAR PROCESS, UM, AND I WANT TO, UM, SAY THANKS TO CSAC AND TO STAFF FOR TAKING WHAT I WOULD SAY IS A STEP ONE, STEP TWO, STEP THREE, LEARN SOME MORE, STEP FOUR, LEARN SOME MORE STEP FIVE PROCESS, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A, A SMALL DECISION AND IT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN AS SUCH. AND SO I, I APPRECIATE THE DATA AND THE CONTINUED DATA. LIKE MY COLLEAGUES, I LEARNED A LOT FROM THE EXPERTS. AND SO IF YOU'LL BACK UP ONE SLIDE, UM, PLEASE, EMILY, YES, THAT, UM, THE COMMUNICATION AND THE ROLLOUT, I THINK IF WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, BE INFORMED BY THIS GROUP OR SPEND SOME TIME, I THINK IT WOULD BE IN INCREDIBLY USEFUL AND HELPFUL. UM, I CAN SAY THAT, UM, FROM THE SURVEY AND FROM MY PERSONAL EXCHANGE, NOT ALL RESIDENTS, UM, AS WE KNOW FROM THE SURVEY SUPPORT, UM, THIS DECISION. AND, UM, SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO COMMUNICATION, THAT WE DO OUTREACH, THAT WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD MAKE, UM, ONE COMMENT, AND I THINK IT WAS MORE OF A, UM, GENERALIZATION THAN AN OVERALL STATEMENT THAT EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THE COMMENT WAS, THE ETHICS STATEMENT WILL HELP GUIDE OUR COMMUNICATIONS, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA HELP GUIDE OUR WHOLE PROGRAM. RIGHT? AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS, THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IN THIS DISCUSSION, AND I THINK I HEARD THAT FROM MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL. SO, UM, SHARING THAT AND PART, AND MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WE ARE DELIBERATE ABOUT THAT AND THAT WE SHARE THAT EFFECTIVELY, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, IN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION, BUT FOR THE REASONS MY COLLEAGUES SHARED IT, IT IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION FOR, FOR THIS, FOR THIS GROUP TO, TO MOVE FORWARD ON. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK. SO TO TO THAT END, UM, THE PROGRAM GOALS FOR CONSIDERATION, AS WRITTEN, AS I SAID, COMING INTO THIS, I WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON THOSE THINGS, THE COMPLAINTS. UM, BUT NUMBER THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIMIT PROPERTY AND LANDSCAPE DAMAGE, I WOULD SAY, AND DESTRUCTION OF NATIVE SPECIES. UM, I WOULD ADD SOMETHING ABOUT REALLY COMMUNITY HEALTH. UM, AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANNA SOUND TOO NEGATIVE OR ALARMIST, BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE, THE, UM, TO NATURE OF, OF HAVING DEER. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT BENEFIT THEY ADD, BUT CLEARLY, AS WAS POINTED OUT BY THE EXPERTS, THERE ARE A LOT OF NEGATIVES. AND SO I THINK IN THE ETHICS STATEMENT AND THE COMMUNICATIONS, IT'S NOT ABOUT PROTECTING MY HOSTAS, UH, IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ADD THAT ELEMENT BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT, AT IT PROBABLY THROUGH THE SAME LENS I WAS, THAT I DON'T WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY CAR. I DON'T WANT THEM TO, TO CHASE AFTER ME. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER, UH, EFFECTS THAT A LOT OF FOLKS HAVEN'T CONSIDERED. THANKS. WELL, THANKS EMILY, FOR THIS UNDERTAKING. IT, IT, IT IS REALLY ROBUST WORK AND, UM, I, I KNOW THE COMMUNITY WILL REALLY APPRECIATE IT ONCE THEY COME TO REALIZE THE, THE BREADTH AT WHICH WE TOOK A LOOK AT THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS STRUCK A DEER IN MY CAR MYSELF, I HAVE WITNESSED TWO OTHER TIMES WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE MAPS AND WE SEE THE CONCENTRATION, PARTICULARLY UP AND DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE, THAT IS A HIGHER SPEED ROAD. IT IS ALARMING, AND IT'S PROBABLY A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL WE HAVE, UH, MORE SIGNIFICANT INJURIES OF, OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE TRAVELING UP AND UP AND DOWN THAT ROADWAY. I THINK ONE OF THE CLUSTERS RIGHT ADJACENT TO, UM, RIVERSIDE DRIVE WAS ONE OF THE LARGER CONCENTRATIONS WE HAD. IT WAS 11, AND IF YOU WENT UP AND DOWN THAT ROUTE, I THINK I COUNTED MORE THAN 56 ADJACENT TO RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN, SIMILAR NUMBERS FOR DUBLIN ROAD AS WELL. SO I, I, I THINK WE DO LEAN HE HEAVILY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, ASPECT OF THIS, BECAUSE CERTAINLY THAT IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT. BUT AS AN ASIDE, I, YOU KNOW, I GRADUATED IN THE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AT OHIO STATE AND TO WALK THROUGH THE FOREST FLOORS IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT, IT IS VERY APPARENT THAT THE NATIVE SPECIES ARE DISAPPEARING [00:50:01] QUITE RAPIDLY. AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON INVASIVE SPECIES, HONEYSUCKLE, AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS, UM, PEARS AND A FEW OTHERS, UH, IN THE CITY. BUT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF HABITAT AND THAT WILL ONLY, UM, EXPEDITE THIS POPULATION TO FLOURISH. AND SO WHEN WE COMPARE OUR NUMBERS TO THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON IS LESS THAN SIX SQUARE MILES, AND THAT WE ARE GREATER THAN 25 SQUARE MILES. AND SO OUR NUMBERS WILL NATURALLY BE SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY OF THE NUMBER OF DEERS IN A FIXED SPACE, WE, OUR FIXED SPACE IS LARGER THAN THEIRS. SO WE WILL, UM, WE WILL LIKELY HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY MORE WORK TO DO IN THAT SPACE. SO I AGREE WITH EVERY COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE UP HERE, AND I THINK ONCE YOU, ONCE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO HEAR FROM THE EXPERTS, AND I, I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UH, THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN EDUCATION NIGHT WHERE WE WOULD BRING THESE SAME EXPERTS IN AND THEY WOULD HEAR THE SAME THINGS THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR. UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN STILL FORM THEIR OPINIONS AND DEVELOP THEIR THOUGHTS, UM, HOWEVER THEY FEEL, BUT THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE WELL-INFORMED TO DO SO. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION. SO, UM, WITH THAT, I THINK THERE, UM, IS SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT FOR THIS. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS RELATED TO A DEAR MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, JENNY WOULD PLEASE CALL ROLL DR. LAMB? YES. MS. SOLUDO? YES. MS. CRAM? YES. MS. JOHNSON? YES. VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. MAYOR AROSE GROOMS? YES. MR. KEELER? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE WILL HAVE A FOOD TRUCK. REGULATIONS IN OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY KENDALL BLAKE, WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THE FOOD TRUCK REGULATIONS TOPIC BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING COMES AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE. I'D LIKE TO OUTLINE THE STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT BEHIND BRINGING THESE REGULATIONS FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. REVIEW THE DRAFT CODE LANGUAGE AND SHARE ADDITIONAL COUN, UH, ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. THIS REQUEST STEMS FROM STAFF'S EFFORT TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM TWO RECENTLY ADOPTED STRATEGIC PLANS, THE COMMUNITY EVENTS ROADMAP, WHICH SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR ESTABLISHING, ESTABLISHING RE REGULATIONS FOR FOOD TRUCK OPERATIONS IN PARKS AND THE DOWNTOWN DUBLIN CURBSIDE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH RECOMMENDS FORMALIZING A PROGRAM TO CLARIFY WHEN AND WHERE SUCH OPERATIONS ARE ALLOWED, PREFERRED AND DISCOURAGED STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. WE REMOVE TWO CURRENT SECTIONS OF THE CODE, BOTH WHICH ARE WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ZONING CODE CHAPTER AND ESTABLISHING A STANDALONE CHAPTER INTO A COHESIVE SECTION OF THE CODE, IMPROVING CLARITY AND USABILITY FOR OPERATORS. THE PROPOSED FOOD TRUCK REGULATIONS WOULD ESTABLISH A PILOT PROGRAM TO HELP THE CITY EVALUATE HOW FOOD TRUCK OPERATIONS CAN BE MANAGED IN A CONSISTENT, SAFE AND BUSINESS CONSCIOUS WAY. THE PRO PROGRAM WOULD INCLUDE AN ANNUAL LICENSE FOR FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS. HOWEVER, THE LICENSE REQUIREMENT WOULD NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL MARCH 1ST, 2027. THIS DELAYED EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO FIRST EVALUATE OPERATIONS, COLLECT FEEDBACK, AND DETERMINE AN APPROPRIATE LICENSE FEE THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE COST STUDY TO OCCUR IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. THIS DATE ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE STATE RENEWAL PROCESS, UH, FOR THE OPERATOR SO THAT A ONE TIME PER YEAR THEY'RE USED TO GETTING THEIR RENEWALS. DURING THE INITIAL PILOT PERIOD, THE LICENSE FEE WOULD BE WAIVED. ANY ADOPTING ORDINANCE WOULD NEED TO SPECIFY THAT THE PROPOSED LICENSE RELATED SECTIONS OF THE CODE ARE NOT EFFECTIVE UNTIL THAT MARCH 1ST DATE. IN THE MEANTIME, THE CITY WOULD ASK FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS TO SUBMIT A COPY OF THEIR VALID AND CURRENT FOOD SERVICE OPERATIONS LICENSE WITH THEIR FIRST REQUEST TO RESERVE TIME IN A DESIGNATED FOOD TRUCK PARKING ZONE, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A MINUTE. THIS WOULD ENSURE HEALTH AND SAFETY, WHILE THE FORMAL LICENSE REQUIREMENT IS NOT YET, IN EFFECT, THE OPERATIONAL REGULATIONS WOULD MOVE FORWARD ON THE NORMAL EFFECTIVE TIMELINE. A KEY COMPONENT OF THE PILOT PROGRAM IS A DESIGNATED CORRIDOR APPROACH. THIS IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHERE FOOD TRUCKS MAY OPERATE, WHILE BALANCING SEVERAL IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS, INCLUDING MINIMIZING COMPETITION WITH EXISTING RESTAURANTS, ENSURING PUBLIC SAFETY AND SUPPORTING A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS. UNDER THIS APPROACH, THE FOOD TRUCK LOCATIONS WOULD BE RESERVED RATHER THAN OPERATED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. THIS WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO BETTER MANAGE THE PLACEMENT, AVOID CONFLICTS, AND ENSURE OPERATIONS OCCUR IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS. BEGINNING IN MARCH, 2027, OPERATORS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE [00:55:01] DOCUMENTATION THAT WOULD BE THE APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR'S LICENSE THROUGH THE STATE, STATE ISSUED DRIVER LICENSE, VALID VEHICLE REGISTRATION, AND ADDITIONAL ITEMS SUCH AS IMAGES OF THE FOOD TRUCK, ET CETERA. FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED TO REGISTER THROUGH THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S DIVISION, DIVISION OF TAXATION TO ENSURE PROPER INCOME TAX REPORTING. THE WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS COMMITTED TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO INSPECT EACH FOOD TRUCK BEFORE A CITY LICENSE IS ISSUED. THE STEP IS INTENDED TO ENSURE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS ARE MET BEFORE THE FULL LICENSURE BEGINS. IF AN OPERATOR WISHES TO APPEAL A DECISION RELATED TO THESE REGULATIONS, THOSE APPEALS WOULD BE HEARD BY THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. AND FINALLY, VIOLATIONS OF THIS PROPOSED CODE WOULD RESULT IN A THIRD DEGREE MISDEMEANOR. THIS ENFORCEMENT PROVISION IS INTENDED TO SUPPORT COMPLIANCE AND PROVIDE THE CITY WITH A CLEAR MECHANISM TO ADDRESS VIOLATIONS. THE PROPOSED OP OPERATIONS REGULATIONS ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE THAT CLEAR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS WHILE SUPPORTING THAT SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY AND POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR THE PUBLIC. UNDER THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS, FOOD TRUCKS WOULD BE PERMITTED TO OPERATE BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 10:00 PM WITH NO OVERNIGHT PARKING. WHILE OPERATING, EACH FOOD TRUCK WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DISPLAY A VALID CITY ISSUED FOOD TRUCK LICENSE. THIS HELPS ENSURE THAT OPERATORS ARE PROPERLY AUTHORIZED AND PROVIDES A CLEAR VISUAL CONFIRMATION FOR BOTH ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND THE PUBLIC. ALL EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTUAL OPERATION WOULD NEED TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN OR ON THE FOOD TRUCK. AUXILIARY ITEMS SUCH AS A CONDIMENT TABLE, A COOLER OR SIGNS WOULD BE ALLOWED, BUT MUST BE REMAINED WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE FOOD TRUCK. TO ENSURE OPERATIONS STAY STAYS COMPACT AND DOES NOT CREATE CONFLICTS WITH PEDESTRIANS OR VEHICULAR MOVEMENT. THE REGULATIONS ALSO ADDRESS NOISE AND NUISANCE CONCERNS. SPEAKERS OR AMPLIFIED SOUND WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED WITH AN EXCEPTION FOR PERMITTED ICE CREAM TRUCKS AS THAT'S STANDARD TO THEIR OPERATIONS. OPERATORS WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED TO AVOID EXCESSIVE NOISE, SMOKE, OR FUMES FROM GENERATORS, FUEL SOURCES, OR OTHER EQUIPMENT. FOOD TRUCKS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO CONNECT TO OR USE UTILITIES WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. THIS ENSURES THAT THE USE OF ELECTRIC WATER OR OTHER SERVICES IS AUTHORIZED AND PROPERLY MANAGED FOOD TRUCKS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO OPERATE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A CITY APPROVED EVENT. THAT WOULD BE CITY SPONSORED EVENTS AS WELL AS THE PERMITTED EVENTS. THE REGULATIONS WOULD ALSO PROHIBIT DISPOSAL OF ANY LIQUID GREASE OR LIQUID WASTE GREASE OR SIMILAR MATERIALS. THIS IS INTENDED TO PROTECT PUBLIC SPACES, INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ENVIRONMENT, WHILE ALSO ENSURING THAT THE WASTE IS HANDLED THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS PANELS. SO STAFF IS PROPOSING 12 DESIGNATED LOCATIONS. THE MAPPING FEATURE I WILL SHARE WILL BE, WOULD BE ON A WEBSITE TO HELP EDUCATE THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS WHERE THEY COULD RESERVE AND BE LOCATED. GIMME ONE SECOND. SO THIS IS THE SITE THAT WOULD WOULD SHOW THE MAPPING FEATURE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. SO I WILL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. AT AVERY PARK. THIS IS ON THE SOUTH AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ONE LOCATION. UH, THE REASON FOR ALL OF THESE BEING ZONES IS THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DON'T SIGN OR STRIPES SPECIFIC PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE IF THEY'RE FOR, UH, A RANDOM SATURDAY OR SAY A TUESDAY NIGHT AND A FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR DECIDES NOT TO SIGN UP FOR THAT LOCATION, WE WOULD WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN THAT SPOT. SO WE WOULDN'T WANNA PROHIBIT ANYONE FROM USING THAT SPOT. ALSO, IF A SOCCER PARENT IS LATE TO PRACTICE AND THEY JUST DECIDE TO PARK IN THE STRIPED SPOT AND THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR ARRIVES AND THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PARK, THAT WOULD ALSO BE DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO MANAGE. SO WITH THE INTENDED ZONES, WE'RE PUTTING THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE OPERATOR TO FIND A SAFE LOCATION WITHIN THIS ZONE TO PARK. THE NEXT LOCATION IS THE BALANCE TRAY, COMMUNITY PARK AND SPLASH PADS. WE'RE RECOMMENDING POTENTIALLY TWO LOCATIONS IN THIS AREA. THE NEXT LOCATION IS BELL GRIFFIN PARK. THERE'S ON STREET PARKING ON THAT STREET, AND SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TWO FOOD TRUCKS IN THAT LOCATION. KAUFMAN PARK HAS THREE DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOOD TRUCKS. THE FIRST WOULD BE IN THE OVERFLOW AND FARTHER OUT LOCATIONS AT THE REC CENTER AND ALLOWING UP TO THREE FOOD TRUCKS TO BE PERMITTED WITHIN THAT ZONE. ADDITIONALLY, WHERE THE CURRENT FOOD TRUCK WEDNESDAYS OCCUR, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ONE FOOD TRUCK TO BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE PARKING LOT IN BETWEEN THE PLAYGROUND AND THE, UH, TENNIS COURTS. [01:00:01] AND THE FINAL DESTINATION IN COFFIN PARK WOULD BE THE COMMERCE PARKWAY PARKING LOT WITH ONE PARKING LOT, ONE FOOD TRUCK PERMITTED THERE AS THERE IS, UM, SOCCER AND OTHER ADDITIONAL ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR IN THAT PART OF THE PARK. THE NEXT LOCATION WOULD BE DARI FIELDS. THIS PARK ALSO HAS MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE IS A RED DESIGNATED SPOT THAT IS THE CONCESSION STAND. SO STAFF STRATEGICALLY PICKED LOCATIONS THAT WERE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THAT CONCESSION STAND NOT TO COMPETE WITH THE LOCAL YOUTH ORGANIZATION, WHICH I'LL SPEAK ON IN A MINUTE. SO THE FIRST LOCATION WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WITH THE SOCCER, UM, TURF, OR I'M SORRY, GRASS FIELDS WITH TWO LOCATIONS IN THAT AREA. MOVING DOWN TO THE BASEBALL DIAMONDS, UH, TWO LOCATIONS WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THIS AREA. AND THEN THE FINAL LOCATION IS THE SOFTBALL FIELD AND THE DOG PARK, ALLOWING ONE FOOD TRUCK TO BE PERMITTED TO BE LOCATED IN THAT ZONE. THE NEXT PARK IS ARLINGTON PARK, UH, AS THERE IS ACTIVITY IN THIS, UH, PARK IN THE EVENINGS, UH, WITH SOCCER AND OTHER ACTIVITIES, ONE LOCATION, ONE FOOD TRUCK WOULD BE PERMITTED TO BE IN THIS LOCATION. THE NEXT PARK IS EMERALD FIELDS, ANOTHER ATHLETIC PARK OF THE CITY. CURRENTLY, WE ARE PERMITTING TWO FOOD TRUCKS TO BE NEAR THE, UH, GRASS AND SOCCER AND LACROSSE FIELDS, AND ONE LOCATION TO BE NEAR WHERE THE PLAYGROUND IS LOCATED. THE NEXT PARK IS FERRIS WRIGHT PARK, UH, WHERE WE ARE RECOMMENDING TWO FOOD TRUCKS BE PERMITTED TO BE LOCATED. THE NEXT LOCATION IS, UH, THE FIRST LOCATION THAT WE HAVE THAT'S NOT AT A PARK. SO THIS WOULD BE FRANKLIN STREET. SO LOOKING AT THIS LOCATION, UH, ALLOWING FOOD TRUCKS TO BE THREE FOOD TRUCKS TO BE LOCATED IN ANY OF THESE PARKING SPOTS ALONG FRANKLIN STREET. AND ONE THING I DID NOTE IN THE MEMO IS THAT THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN DUBLIN CURBSIDE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH COUNCIL WILL BE GETTING AN UPDATE AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT, STEPH IS LOOKING TO, UH, IMPLEMENT TWO HOUR PARKING. UH, CURRENTLY THIS LOCATION ALREADY HAS THREE HOUR PARKING, BUT STAFF, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY STAFF WILL BRING IN THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF BOTH THIS LOCATION AND THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE LOCATION, WHICH I'LL BE MOVING TO NEXT. WE'LL HAVE TWO HOUR PARKING LIMITATIONS, RIVERSIDE PARK CROSSING PARK. SO THIS LOCATION WOULD PERMIT ALSO THREE LOCATIONS ANYWHERE ON THAT SOUTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND ONLY, AS WELL AS RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARKS. SINCE IT IS UNIQUE COMPARED TO OTHER PARKS, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING ALLOWING TWO FOOD CARTS LOCATIONS TO BE ON THE PLAZA. THE LAST TWO PARKS TO GO THROUGH WOULD BE CALLBACK COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH WE ARE RECOMMENDING TWO FOOD TRUCKS BE PERMITTED TO BE IN THAT LOCATION. AND THE LAST PARK WOULD BE SCIOTO PARK, WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW TWO FOOD TRUCKS TO BE WITHIN THE SPACES HERE. SO THESE ARE ALL THE LOCATIONS THAT STAFF USE THAT CORRIDOR APPROACH TO THINK ABOUT, UM, SAFETY AS WELL AS, UM, DISTANCE FROM CURRENT BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEN AS WELL AS TRYING TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY GATHERING. AND IT WOULD BRING A NICE, UH, POSITIVE AMBIANCE TO THE LOCATION, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ALSO A PLACE THAT FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS WOULD ACTUALLY WANT TO BE LOCATED IN. THERE ARE ALSO FIVE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO BRING BEFORE ALL OF COUNCIL. FIRST IS THE VISIT DUBLIN, UH, BOARD AND HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY FEEDBACK. SO STAFF ENGAGED VISIT DUBLIN TO SOLICIT THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT CODE, WHICH WAS DISCUSSED AT THEIR APRIL 8TH VISIT. DUBLIN MEETING FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD AND LOCAL HO HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY REFLECTS GENERAL SUPPORT FOR FOOD TRUCKS AS A WAY TO ENHANCE, UH, COMMUNITY VIBRANCY AND VISITOR EXPERIENCE WHEN IMPLEMENTED THOUGHTFULLY, MAIN POINTS ARE OUTLINED ON THE SCREEN, BUT ONE ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THEIR REQUESTED LIMITATION OF FEED TRUCK OPERATIONS ON HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS SUCH AS HIGH STREET AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS WE'RE RECOMMENDING. UM, STAFF IS GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, PRIMARILY, UH, ALSO FOCUSING THOUGH ON THE SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO CONGESTION, PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, AND OVERALL SITE CIRCULATION. NEXT, STAFF WANTED TO MAKE COUNCIL AWARE THAT THE CITY DOES CURRENTLY PARTNER WITH TWO YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS AT OUR SPORTS COMPLEXES. UM, IN THE PAST, STAFF ACTUALLY HAS [01:05:01] RECEIVED, UH, COMPLAINTS FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT A RANDOM FOOD TRUCK JUST ARRIVED TO THE PARK AND, AND THEY EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE IMPACTS TO THEIR SALES AND THEIR REVENUE. UM, THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE DETERMINED THAT DUE TO THE LI THE THEIR LIMITED FOOD OFFERINGS AND THE VOLUME OF PARK ATTENDEES, UM, THAT FOOD TRUCKS SHOULD BE PERMITTED IN THOSE DESIGNATED LOCATIONS JUST AWAY FROM THE CONCESSION STANDS. SO THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATION OF NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS, UH, IS ON THE SCREEN. EDUCATION WOULD ALSO BE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THE PILOT PROGRAM. SO STAFF WOULD DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE WEBSITE OUTLINING THE LICENSE AND APPLICATION PROCESS, THE DESIGNATED LOCATIONS AND DATES IN WHICH CERTAIN LOCATIONS MAY BE UNAVAILABLE DUE TO CITY APPROVED EVENTS. AS THERE ARE ALREADY SEVERAL EVENTS AT RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK, THOSE LOCATIONS ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE SOUTH WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE WITHIN THAT A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER. UM, SAME GOES FOR KAUFFMAN PARK AND OTHER PARKS AS WELL. SO, UM, THERE WOULD BE A WEBSITE THAT WOULD HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION INCLUSIVE OF IT. UM, AND THEN, UH, THROUGH THE BENCHMARKING PROCESS, STAFF ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT THE CENTRAL OHIO FOOD TRUCK ASSOCIATION AS A POTENTIAL PARTNER FOR OUTREACH. SO THE ASSOCIATION COULD HELP SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW REGULATIONS WITH THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT BROADER AWARENESS AMONG FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS. STAFF POOL, THE ZEN CITY COMMUNITY SENTIMENT ON FOOD TRUCKS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. AND IT REMAINS OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE AND THAT THEY'RE VIEWED AS A STRONG COMMUNITY ASSET. SO THE NEXT STEPS, IF COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE, UH, WOULD BE TO BRING BACK DRAFT CODE LANGUAGE AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING, ENGAGE WITH THAT ASSOCIATION AND DEVELOP THAT COMPREHENSIVE WEBSITE. AND STAFF HAS THE RECOMMENDED QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YOU WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM? GREAT. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD. THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON THERE FOR YOU. PERFECT. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, SCOTT TIMMERMAN, 57 0 5 TARA HILL DRIVE. AND I ADMIT I WAS LISTENING WITH ONE EAR TO THE LOCATIONS, BUT WHEN I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE, UM, REC CENTER OVERFLOW LOT, UM, I THINK THERE MAY BE MEMBERS THAT RECALL AT ONE POINT THE CITY PROPOSED A COMPOSTING SITE, UM, AT THAT LOCATION. AND I, I JUST EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THAT, THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENCES. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? HEARING NONE, UH, COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO START. SO I'D LIKE TO START BY THANKING THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR DOING ALL THE HARD WORK AND HEAVY LIFTING HERE. UM, THIS, UM, DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY BLOCK PARTIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? CORRECT. THIS IS CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND PARKS ONLY. SO PRIVATE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED IN THE CODE. SO CURRENTLY IF A FOOD TRUCK, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, GRADUATION PARTIES, IF I WANNA HAVE A FOOD TRUCK AT MY GRADUATION PARTY, THE FOOD TRUCK IS COMING ONTO MY PROPERTY. AS LONG AS THEY ARE SELLING TO MY GUESTS, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY PERMITTED TO DO THAT. UM, WE DID CARVE OUT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERINGS. SO WE KNOW SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT OF THE SUMMER HAS A FOOD TRUCK, UM, THAT THEY INVITE. SO, UM, WE DID CARVE OUT LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT 'CAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS AND THAT'S A GREAT GATHERING SPOT. SO, UM, WE DID OUTLINE FOR HOA AND CIVIC, UH, APPROVED EVENTS AS WELL AS ANY, UM, WE KNOW SOME NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T HAVE THOSE PRE-ESTABLISHED SO ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOODS OR IF THEY ARE, UM, RENTING THE BLOCK PARTY THROUGH THE CITY, THAT PACKAGE WOULD ALSO THEN BE PERMITTED TO BE AT THAT LOCATION. SO THERE IS CODE SPECIFIC TO THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SO LOGISTICALLY, LET'S SAY THERE'S A FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR THAT WANTS TO OPERATE ON A PARTICULAR DAY OR WEEKEND, WHATEVER. UM, LET'S SAY THEY DRIVE. DO, DO THEY, DO THEY COME TO THE CITY AHEAD OF TIME IN PERSON TO FILL OUT ALL THE PAPERWORK IN, IN PARTICULAR THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE, UH, INSPECTING PRIOR TO LICENSE ISSUANCE. SO DOES THE FOOD TRUCK NEED TO COME TO DUBLIN, BE INSPECTED BY WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE EVENT, BEFORE THE LICENSE IS ISSUED, OR CAN THE LICENSE BE ISSUED THE DAY OF? SO THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO THE WEBSITE WOULD HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION. THEY WOULD FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE A WINDOW [01:10:01] TO GO AND GET INSPECTED WITH WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP. THE CITY WOULD NOT ISSUE THAT LICENSE UNTIL OKAY. THAT INSPECTION HAS OCCURRED. AND THEN AT THAT TIME THEY CAN SIGN UP FOR THE SPECIFIC LOCATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. OKAY. UM, THE, UM, AMBERLEY PARK WAS OMITTED, BUT I UNDERSTAND STAFF EVALUATED THAT AND DUE TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS, THE, UM, KAYAK, UH, LAUNCH AREA AND OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE, IT WAS NOT AN APPROPRIATE SITE, SO STAFF ALREADY DID THEIR HOMEWORK ON THAT. UM, NO NEED TO GET TOO FAR INTO THAT. AND I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION HERE. SO THE, THE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS MORE OR LESS SAID FOOD TRUCKS SHOWING UP, ESPECIALLY UNANNOUNCED, IS, UM, IT'S CUTTING INTO THEIR PROFIT. UM, MY ONLY CONCERN WITH OVERRIDING THAT COMMENT AND ALLOWING FOOD TRUCKS IS THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE SAME ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME TO US FOR BED TAX GRANT FUNDS. AND SO IN, IN, IN, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY WE'RE ESSENTIALLY HOLDING THEIR, TYING THEIR HANDS IN TERMS OF THE REVENUE THAT THEY CAN GENERATE. AND ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY'RE COMING TO THE CITY ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. SO, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CONCERN I REALLY HAVE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE DRAFTED. THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE? WHAT, UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT WE SPOKE AT PUBLIC SERVICES ABOUT, UM, AT LENGTH. AND I, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT IT IS IN THE MATERIALS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS WOULD BE A PILOT PHASE THIS FIRST YEAR. SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS OR THESE LOCATIONS MAKE SENSE? 'CAUSE WE TALKED BACK AND FORTH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF LUCK WITH PILOTS HERE IN THIS CITY AND THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. THE OTHER THING, UM, WE SPENT, WE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE LOCATIONS ARE GONNA CHANGE POTENTIALLY. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THAT TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. ARE YOU OKAY WITH LOCATION A, B, OR C? SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE CITY MANAGER AND AND OR DESIGNATED STAFF WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP THAT WEBSITE CURRENT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOMETHING WITH WHO KNOWS, UM, UH, CONDITION OF PROPERTY, LAND, WHATEVER THAT WOULD NEED TO CHANGE. OR WE FIND THERE'S A NEW AREA. SO THAT, UM, I WALKED IN HERE AND I HAD BE SURE TO ASK ABOUT THE REC CENTER. SO I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE RESIDENT COMMENT ON THIS. UM, I KNOW WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT REFURBISHING THE REC CENTER, THERE WAS DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH, DO WE PUT A FOOD FACILITY IN THE REC CENTER DURING THE REFURBISHMENT? AND ALL OF US COMMENTED, WE'VE TRIED THAT MULTIPLE TIMES WITH, WITH, WITH REAL TROUBLE BECAUSE NO ONE COULD SEEM TO MAKE A GO OF IT. SO I DON'T THINK IT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO PUT THESE IN THE AUXILIARY BACK NEAR RESIDENCE IN A CORNER WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA NOT REALLY ACCESS IT. I, I THINK IT WOULD, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS AND ONE WOULD PROBABLY BE SUFFICIENT TO HAVE SOMETHING CLOSE TO THE REC CENTER BECAUSE THEN IF RESIDENTS WANNA COME OUT AND HAVE A SANDWICH, THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO THIS. AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SPACE TO EN ENABLE THAT AND THEN IT COULD BE REFRESHED. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY SENSE REALLY IN THE BACK CORNER 'CAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO I, THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. BUT WHAT DOES IS TO POTENTIALLY ADD THAT. NOW I DO KNOW WE HAVE IT BY THE AMPHITHEATER AND I KNOW THAT'S WELL LOVED, SO THAT MAKES, BUT JUST TO MAKE THAT, I WOULD MAKE THAT MODIFICATION TO LOCATION. I'M SEEING SOME NODS FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE THAT THAT MAKES SOME SENSE. BUT, UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK AND, AND AS YOU SAID, ANDY, THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH , UM, AND THIS, SO, UH, I THANK STAFF AND, UM, OUR ATTORNEYS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON THIS. SO THANK YOU. UH, YES, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS GREAT. GREAT WORK. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS. SO WITH THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED, UM, I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, FOLKS ON THE OPERATORS, BUT AS COUNCILMAN REMEMBER KEILA POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ALSO HAPPEN IN NEIGHBORHOODS PRIVATE PROPERTY. IS THERE GONNA BE SOME ASPECT OF THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN PLAN THAT'S GONNA BE FOCUSED TOWARDS RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, FOOD TRUCKS AT THEIR AREAS, BUT ALSO HOW WE'RE DISTRIBUTING FOOD TRUCKS IN THE PUBLIC AREAS AS WELL? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE HAD DISCUSSED INTERNALLY ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING THIS ITEM ON A FUTURE HOA LEADERSHIP NIGHT JUST TO MAKE, EDUCATE THEM, IF NOT ON THE AGENDA AND, UH, ENGAGEMENT STATION JUST SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. MY OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH THE ENFORCEMENT. AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IF THERE'S A VIOLATION, I [01:15:01] THINK IT'S A MIS MISDEMEANOR AND THEN ALSO DENNIS FULL, UH, THAT THEY GET THEIR LICENSE REVOKED. BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER ASPECTS TO IT? LIKE, MY FAMILY OWNED A RESTAURANT A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY IN A DIFFERENT STATE, BUT , BUT I DO REMEMBER FOR SOME OF THESE, LIKE YOU WOULD GET WARNINGS IF IT WAS JUST TECHNICAL THINGS AND NOT SAFETY THINGS YOU DID, YOU'D GET A TIME PERIOD, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH WHICH YOU CAN ADDRESS THESE THINGS. IS THAT DELINEATED IN THE CODE AS WELL? I'M GONNA LOOK TO MY CROSS BOUND TODD FRIENDS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT, THE LANGUAGE IS LOOSE TO SAY, UH, UP TO A THIRD DEGREE MISDEMEANOR. BUT I WOULD REFER TO ANTHONY TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, DR. LAMA APPRECIATE IT. UH, THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, NOTHING IN THE CODE WOULD ALLOW FOR ANY SORT OF SPECIFIC RACE PERIOD, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION AND ENFORCEMENT DISCRETION BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE BEFORE THE OFFICER OR IF EVERYTHING WOULD GO TOWARDS A, UH, YOU KNOW, AERUS COURT CASE, UH, TO DETERMINE BASED ON THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL WANTS TO SEE, THERE ARE MECHANISMS THAT WE COULD PUT IN THERE TOWARDS A WARNING OR A REMEDIATION PERIOD, UH, TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO GET BACK UP TO SPEED. IT MIGHT ALSO BE WISE, HOWEVER, TO, UH, PAUSE THEIR OPERATIONS FOR THAT DAY AND UNTIL THEY ARE PROPERLY REMEDIATED. YEAH, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IN JUST READING THROUGH IS THAT THERE'S REALLY NO LIKE ENFORCEMENT LADDER OR ENFORCEMENT STRUCTURE OTHER THAN SLAPPING THEM WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TICKET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WORTH CONSIDERING. UM, OKAY. THE, THE OTHER COM TWO COMMENTS THAT I HAD IS, UH, WE ACTUALLY DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE CONCESSION STANDS, UM, AT DARI AND AT AVERY. UM, AND I KNOW THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS RELY ON THAT INCOME TO HELP. UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE'RE GONNA BE COGNIZANT OF THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNICATION, UH, WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS JUST TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA FLIPPANTLY SAY LIKE, WE'RE PUTTING A A FOOD TRUCK HERE, UM, BUT ALSO LIKE WHERE WE LOCATE THE FOOD TRUCK SO IT DOESN'T, UH, REALLY ADVERSELY AFFECT THEIR SALES. YOU KNOW, LIKE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF TOWARDS THE END OF THE, UM, OR OR TO THE POINT ABOUT EDUCATION. AND THEN JUST THE LAST THING, THE QUESTION AND COMMENT, AS FAR AS THE FOURTH THING ABOUT ANY OTHER LOCATIONS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ACTUALLY ALWAYS SEEN WITH FOOD TRUCKS IS THAT THEY, THEY COMMONLY ARE AT, UM, OFFICE BUILDINGS OR OFFICE COMPLEX OR OFFICE PARKS. DO WE HAVE ANY OFFICE PARKS THAT WE CONSIDERED FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS AT THIS TIME? WE DIDN'T, JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE OFFICE PARKS ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, THAT IS ADDRESSED IN THE CODE TO SAY, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW OF ONE, UM, BUSINESS THAT DOES FOOD TRUCK FRIDAYS WHERE THEY'LL BRING IN A FOOD TRUCK. SO THEY'LL, THE CODE LANGUAGE DOES ALLOW A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO COMMERCIAL PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO INVITE A FOOD TRUCK ONTO THEIR PROPERTY FOR UP TO 14 DAYS. SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE LICENSED THAT THROUGH THE CITY, THEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE ON THAT PROPERTY WITH THAT BUSINESS OWNER'S CONSENT FOR UP TO 14 DAYS. GREAT, THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MINOR THINGS. YOU TOOK CARE OF MOST OF THE STUFF WE SAID IN PUBLIC SERVICES. I, I LIKE GREG'S IDEA OF MAYBE HAVING SOME TYPE OF LOWER FOR LOWER LEVEL INFRACTIONS, SOME TYPE OF WARNING SYSTEM, UM, MAYBE LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT. OBVIOUSLY NOT IF IT'S A FOOD SAFETY ISSUE, BUT IF IT WAS SOMETHING EASILY RECTIFIED, PERHAPS. UM, THEN MY ONLY OTHER COMMENTS WERE RELATED TO THE, UM, LOCATIONS. I WOULD BE, I WOULD SUPPORT ADDING, UM, ANOTHER LOCATION AT AVERY, ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ONE ON THE SOUTH, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T GO BETWEEN THOSE TWO. IT'S A PRETTY FAR DISTANCE AND IF YOUR KIDS UP AT THE NORTH END, YOU, YOU'LL NEVER GO DOWN TO THE SOUTH. SO I WOULD SUGGEST PUTTING ONE UP ON THE NORTH AGAIN, MONITORING IT DURING OUR, UM, PILOT PROGRAM, SEEING WHAT THE IMPACT IS TO THE DYA AND DSL CONCESSIONS. UM, LIKEWISE IN EMERALD FIELDS, I WOULD SUGGEST ALLOWING ONE ON THE SOUTHERN PARKING LOT WHERE THE BASEBALL FIELDS ARE. UM, AND I'D ALSO CONSIDER IT SCIOTO PARK ALLOWING ONE DOWN AT THE LOWER LEVEL, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WHO LIKE RENT THE SHELTERS, THERE'S THREE SHELTERS DOWN AT THE LOWER LEVEL AT SCIOTO PARK, AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT REALLY WANT A FOOD TRUCK OR SOMETHING. SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE TO ALLOW, UH, A FEW EXTRAS. THE NEXT, AND AGAIN, WE'RE DOING THIS AS A PILOT, WE DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THESE NUMBERS ARE TOO HIGH, MAYBE THEY'RE TOO LOW. WE'RE GONNA KIND SEE AND WE CAN, AND KIND OF SEE HOW IT GOES. BUT, UH, I REALLY LIKE [01:20:01] HOW WE SWITCH THE APPROACH TO ALLOWABLE SPACES VERSUS NOT ALLOW. THANKS. UH, THANK YOU. SO THANKS TO THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK AND TO STAFF FOR SUPPORTING THEM. DO I SUPPORT THE DRAFT CODE? YEAH, I DO. DO I SUPPORT FOOD TRUCKS OPERATING IN THE CITY? UM, YES. UH, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO DO A PILOT PROGRAM. WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT SUCCESSES OVER THE YEARS WITH PILOT PROGRAMS AND WE COME BACK AND WE REVIEW 'EM AND WE REVISE THEM AND UPDATE THEM TO, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE FOR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT UP HERE TONIGHT. SO, UM, SO GIVEN THAT WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND RE-REVIEW ALL OF THIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY BIG CHANGES, UM, OR LOCATIONS. I THINK AMY'S SUGGESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR SCIOTO PARK BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A, THERE'S A, A BIG GRADE CHANGE BETWEEN THAT UPPER PARKING LOT AND THE LOWER PARKING LOT. UM, AND FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOBILITY CHANGE CHALLENGES, IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GET TO A FOOD TRUCK THAT'S ON THAT UPPER PARKING LOT IF THEY'RE DOWN ON THE LOWER AREA. UM, BUT OTHERWISE I'M, I'M REALLY SUPPORTED THIS, I THINK IT'S GREAT WORK, SO THANK YOU. ANY BAD ONE? NO, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE THAT YOU HAD UP? SORRY, KEEP GOING. THE VERY FIRST PICTURE THERE. RIGHT THERE. UM, I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING FOOD TRUCKS RIGHT ADJACENT TO RIVERSIDE DRIVE. UM, THEY TEND TO ACT MORE LIKE BILLBOARDS TO PEOPLE TRAVERSING UP AND DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS THERE AS PEOPLE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE COMING OUT INTO THE STREET, YOU CAN'T SEE A VEHICLE THAT IS PASSING BY. UM, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, IMPEDING THE FLOW OF, UH, FOOT TRAFFIC, IT CERTAINLY DOES THAT BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SEE THEM RIGHT HERE, BUT THEY'LL HAVE THEIR SANDWICH BOARDS AND IF THEY NEED TO HAVE CONDIMENT STATIONS AND THINGS WITHIN 10 FEET, THE ONLY PLACE TO PUT THEM IS GOING TO BE IN THE SIDEWALK. AND, UM, YOU HAD ANOTHER IMAGE THAT HAD AN OVERHEAD OF THIS PARK, UM, AND I'M WONDERING IF WE DON'T EXPLORE WAYS OF GETTING THE FOOD TRUCKS TO BE DOWN ON THAT PATH THAT'S CLOSER TO THE RIVER, UM, THAT WOULD ENGAGE, UH, YES, THANK YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE COULDN'T LIMIT THE HOURS AND SAY YOU HAVE TO BE IN BY, I'M MAKING UP THE TIMES IN BY NINE, YOU CAN'T GO OUT TILL AFTER EIGHT OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TRUCKS GOING, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH ON THERE. BUT I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING THEM ON THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE. I THINK IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD. UM, CERTAINLY THAT PARK IS DESIGNED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL VISTA FROM TRAVERSING UP AND DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE. AND THEN WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE INTRODUCED BILLBOARDS ALL ALONG THE, UM, THE ROADWAY ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, I, I, AND IT'S, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT, BUT FREQUENTLY PEOPLE THAT ARE HOLDING EVENTS IN, UM, IN THIS PARK ARE PARKING ON THE PAVER AREAS KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE, THE STRUCTURES THERE ON THE SOUTH END. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING, BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF HERTZ PENSKE'S U-HAUL TRUCKS I'VE SEEN PARKED IN THAT. AND THEY DON'T PARK AND UNLOAD AND MOVE IT, IT, IT STAYS THERE THE WHOLE OF THE DAY. UM, AND SO I WOULD THINK IN PART OF THIS, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MANAGING VEHICLES IN AND AROUND THIS PARK, THAT MAYBE THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO THAT. SO THOSE ARE JUST THAT, THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK. I, I, I THINK IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD. IT CERTAINLY RUINS THE VISTA FOR THOSE TRAVERSING UP AND DOWN. UH, YOU ARE BLOCKING PEDESTRIAN, UM, AVAILABILITY ON THOSE SIDEWALKS AND I THINK IF WE GOT 'EM DOWN INTO THE PARK, IT WOULD MIGHT BRING MORE PEOPLE IN AND BE A MORE PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT. UM, AND THEN MY, MY SECOND THOUGHT IS, AND SINCE THIS IS A PILOT, CERTAINLY WE'LL DO THE PILOT, BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE CANNOT GET THE, UM, GET REVENUE SHARING IN SOME OF THESE PARKS THAT ARE WHERE, UM, YOUTH ATHLETICS ARE HAPPENING. SO IF YOU WANT TO SIGN UP TO HAVE YOUR, RATHER THAN COMPETE WITH THE CONCESSIONS THAT ARE THERE, PERHAPS, UM, DSL OR WHATEVER THAT ENTITY MIGHT BE, MIGHT GET A PERCENTAGE OF THE PROCEEDS OF THAT PARK THAT IS IN THE, IN THAT AREA FOR SOCCER PRACTICE OR SOCCER GAMES OR A BASEBALL TOURNAMENT OR SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT OR WHAT THAT MIGHT BE. I KNOW FREQUENTLY WITH EVENTS THEY WILL BRING FOOD TRUCKS IN AND THEY HAVE A SIMILAR ARRANGEMENT WHERE THEY DO REVENUE SHARING WITH THE EVENT OPERATOR. AND WHILE I GET THAT SATURDAY MORNING SOCCER LEAGUE, DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE ISN'T NECESSARILY AN EVENT, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE IT COULD A FUNCTION LIKE THAT SO THAT WE DON'T TAKE REVENUE AWAY FROM THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME TO US FOR THE BED TAX FUNDS AND ALL OF [01:25:01] THOSE OTHER THINGS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD PILOT IT. IT'S PROBABLY COMPLICATED. UM, BUT WE COULD TRY A COUPLE THINGS AND, AND SEE WHAT WORKS AND, UH, PERHAPS WE COULD GARNISH SOME GROUND. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON THIS. THIS IS, UM, I I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE POLICY DRIVEN IN THIS. SO IT, IT DOESN'T JUST BECOME, UM, YOU KNOW, FOOD TRUCK HAVEN WITH THINGS EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME. UM, I GET PEOPLE ENJOY THEM, BUT THEY, THEY CAN GET UNSIGHTLY AND UH, THEY CAN BE A BIT MUCH AT TIMES TOO. SO, UM, WITH THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE REGARDING FOOD TRUCK REGULATIONS IN ADVANCE, THE PROPOSED RELATED CODE AMENDMENTS. YOU'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK TO US, CORRECT? CORRECT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. BEFORE I CALLED UP, DID WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? YES. SO IN GENERAL, I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A FULL SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CODE. UM, THE GENERAL, I FELT LIKE I GOT GENERAL CONSENSUS ON LOCATIONS FOR MOVING THE REC CENTER CLOSER, ADDING OF AVERY NORTH EMERALD FIELDS NEAR BASEBALL, SCIOTO PARK ON THE SOUTHERN, I WILL SAY ON THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET ALL OF COUNCIL'S OPINION ON THAT. 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT LOCATION WAS SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED AT PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE. SO BEFORE I INCLUDE THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CONSENSUS WITH THAT ONE. OTHER THAN THAT, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE WHAT I NEED. I, I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO TRY TO MOVE IT INTO THE PARK. UM, BECAUSE I, I, I TEND TO AGREE IT, IT, I DO THINK IT'LL BLOCK THE SIDEWALKS. I THINK IT MAKES IT CHALLENGING FOR, FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO, AND YOU'VE GOT KIDS, THEY'RE RIDING THEIR SKATEBOARDS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, AND THAT'S TOUGH TO DO WHEN YOU'RE NAVIGATING LINES OF PEOPLE. SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET THEM INTO THE PARK AND, AND DO THAT PROPERLY AND SAFELY WITHOUT CHEWING UP TURF AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT'D BE A, A REALLY GREAT EXPLORATION. IS THAT POSSIBLE TO MOVE THEM INTO THE PARK? IS THAT A FEASIBLE, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE STAFF LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. I DO KNOW THERE WAS CONSIDERATION ABOUT HAVING, UM, ALLOWING FOOD TRUCKS OR FOOD CARTS, OR I'M SORRY, FOOD TRUCKS WHERE THE ICE RINK IS. AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN A LOT OF DETERIORATION TO THE, THE GROUND, UM, THAT IS THERE. SO WE'RE HAVING TO REPLACE THAT SOONER THAN WE WERE ANTICIPATING. SO I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE CONCERNS THAT I AM NOT THE EXPERT. I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE STAFF TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL, BUT I COULD INCLUDE THAT WHEN I CAN COME BACK. YEAH, I, I THINK THE NUMBER ONE PLACE I HEAR PEOPLE WANT FOOD TRUCKS IS THERE, SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF DOING SOMETHING THERE. I THINK IF WE CAN MOVE THE LOCATION, I THINK THAT'S, UH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. UM, IF WE CAN'T, I THINK HAVING THREE THERE DOESN'T FEEL, I MEAN, I JUST KNOW IT'S SUCH A HIGH DEMAND AREA, SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT, I, I LIKE THAT SUGGESTION VERY MUCH. BUT I I, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF, OF FOOD TRUCKS ALONG THAT VISTA BECAUSE IT IS JUST HIGHLY USED. SO OPTIMIZING THAT IF POSSIBLE. MAKES GOOD SENSE. THANK YOU. IT, YEAH. OH, I'M SORRY. I WAS GONNA SAY, I AM SUPPORTIVE ON RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK 'CAUSE IT IS, I THINK THE MOST POPULAR, IT'S GONNA BE THE MOST POPULAR PLACE. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF KEEPING 'EM FURTHER TO THE NORTH, LIKE BLOCKING OUT THE, THE STUFF ON THE SOUTH END. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME HANDICAPPED ONES IN THERE, BUT THE, THE SIDEWALK ITSELF AS YOU GO FURTHER NORTH ISN'T AS BUSY. UM, LIKE KEEP, SO KEEP 'EM AWAY FROM THE PLAZA AND IF IT REQUIRED US TO MOVE IT FROM THREE TO TWO BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THIS SPACE SMALLER, UM, I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK IS GONNA PROBABLY BE THE MOST POPULAR PLACE. SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY MIND HAVING THEM ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE. MY CONCERN OF HAVING IT DOWN IN THE PARK IS IF THE GROUND IS SOGGY, UM, I, I'D PREFER IDEALLY TO HAVE THEM PARK IN THE GRASS ADJACENT TO THE, THE SHARED USE PATH DOWN ALONG THE, THE RIVER. UM, BUT THIS IS OHIO AND THEY MIGHT NEED TO PARK ON THE ASPHALT AND THEN YOU'RE IMPEDING FOLKS TRYING TO RIDE THEIR BIKES OR, OR WHATEVER DOWN THERE. SO, UM, I THINK, UM, A LONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS A, A BETTER LOCATION PROBABLY. UM, I AGREE. HAVING THEM FURTHER NORTH IS PROBABLY A BETTER IDEA BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONGESTION DOWN NEAR THE PAVILION. THANKS. ISN'T IT ALREADY PART OF THE CODE THOUGH, THAT THE TRUCKS CAN ONLY BE ON HARD LEVEL GROUND, RIGHT? CURRENTLY? YES. YEAH. I MEAN, I, IF, IF THEY CAN MOVE IT INTO THE PARK, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT IF NOT, I REALLY DO THINK HAVING SOMETHING ALONG THE ROAD IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA, UM, AMY'S IDEA ABOUT HAVING FURTHER NORTH, UM, JUST TO AVOID THE PLAZA WHERE THERE'S MORE CONGESTION. BUT I REALLY DO THINK THAT'S [01:30:01] AS, AS KATHY MENTIONED, THAT'S ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR SITES. OKAY. WELL WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. SO, UM, YOU HAVE THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU NEED AND WE WILL CALL ROLL MS. JOHNSON. YES. MS. CRAM? YES. MS. SALUTO? YES. MR. KEELER? YES. DR. LAMB? YES. VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. MAYOR AM ROSE? YES. YES. OKAY. THIS BRINGS US TO STAFF COMMENTS. I HAVE NO COMMENTS. VERY GOOD. [COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE] COUNCIL TABLE. I'LL START DOWN HERE. MS. GRANT, I DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT GOING ON LAST WEEK, BUT, UM, I WILL SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF AND WELCOME TO ALL OF OUR NEW RESIDENTS AND JUST OUR NEW CITIZENS IN GENERAL WHO GOT, UM, TOOK THE OATH, WHAT LAST WEDNESDAY AT OUR NATIONALIZATION CEREMONY. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THEM. THANKS. GREAT, WENDY. CHRISTINA, THANKS. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A WONDERFUL MOTHER'S DAY. IT WAS QUITE A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND. UM, AND HERE WE ARE IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS OF SCHOOL, SO I'LL DO MY ANNUAL THING I DO EVERY YEAR. TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE GONNA CHANGE, KIDDOS ARE GONNA BE OUT AND ABOUT. SO AS YOU'RE DRIVING AND ENJOYING THE WEATHER, MAKE SURE YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE KIDS. UM, SCHOOL'S STILL IN SESSION AND THEN WHEN SCHOOL'S NOT IN SESSION, THEY'RE RIDING AROUND, THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND AND THEY'RE DOING WHAT KIDS SHOULD BE DOING OVER THE SUMMER, WHICH IS HAVING FUN. SO JUST BE CAREFUL DRIVERS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE LITTLE MOTORIZED BIKES AND E THINGS THAT THEY ALL HAVE NOW. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . GREAT ANDY? SO I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND OUR ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS FOR COMING OUT ON A PRETTY CHILLY MORNING MAY 2ND TO HELP SOME RESIDENTS IN NEED. AND, UM, I IN PARTICULAR, UM, HELPED ADD SOME CURB APPEAL TO THE JUSTICE CENTER. IT WAS LOOKING PRETTY ABYSMAL, BUT, UH, IT'S WELL ADORNED WITH PLANTS THAT DEER PROBABLY LIKE TO EAT. CUTTING. YOU CAN COME VISIT ANYTIME AT MY HOUSE. NOW THAT WE KNOW YOUR SKILL LEVELS THERE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CHAMBER FOR, UM, PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THEIR LEADERSHIP ACADEMY GRADUATION. UM, IT WAS ALWAYS SO EXCITING TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORT THEIR STAFF TO COME OUT, LEARN THINGS, LEARN TOGETHER, AND VOLUNTEER. AND IT WAS JUST GREAT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT I HAD THE HONOR WITH, UM, AMY AND CHRIS TO BE AT THE NATURALIZATION, UM, PROGRAM. AND, UM, ONE OF OUR, UM, FREQUENT VOLUNTEERS, UM, TO SO MANY OF THE GROUPS THAT WE, WE WORK WITH, INCLUDING THE CHIEFS ADVISOR GROUP, IS EMMETT A POLL, I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. GAVE ONE OF THE MOST TOUCHING, TOUCHING, UM, UH, ACCOUNTS. HE, HE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. HE CAME, UM, TO THE UNITED STATES FROM THE PHILIPPINES. AND HIS WORDS OF NOT ONLY, UM, SUPPORT BUT CHALLENGING FOLKS TO SAY WE'RE, WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO KEEP THIS, YOU KNOW, COUNTRY AS FABULOUS. IT IS. AND IT WAS JUST FANTASTIC. SO THANK HIM IN THAT OPPORTUNITY AND CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY. I DID HAVE A QUESTION. UM, SO WE HAVE ROLLED OUT OR STARTING TO ROLL OUT, UM, OUR, UM, UPDATED CODE RELATED TO ELECTRIC VI MEAN MOTORIZED VEHICLES AND PATHS, ET CETERA. I'M SEEING MORE THAN EVER BECAUSE SPRING IS FINALLY HERE, SO DON'T, UM, NECESSARILY HAVE TO GET AN UPDATE TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL ON HOW THAT'S GOING, HOW THE COMMUNICATION'S GOING. I SEE LINDSAY NODDING. THANK YOU. BECAUSE MORE THAN EVER, I THINK, UM, PARENTS NEED TO KNOW, KIDDOS NEED TO KNOW, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT SOME OF THIS STUFF IS JUST NOT, UH, AND AND IT'S SPRING NOW, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT. SO I KNOW WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT MAYBE WE COULD GET AN UPDATE ON THAT. UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO, I KNOW THERE WAS SIGNAGE PLANNED IN SOME OF THE PARKS, ET CETERA, SO IF WE COULD GET AN UPDATE ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. GO AHEAD. THANKS. I JUST WANNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU INCLUDE THE SCHOOL COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN EVERY SCHOOL NEWSLETTER THAT COMES OUT AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH, WELL THEY'RE NOT READING THEIR NEWSLETTER THEN, 'CAUSE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. SO, UM, SO SOMEHOW WE NEED TO TO, TO RAMP THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AS, AS SCHOOL GETS OUT. AND I, BUT I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR WORK ON THAT BECAUSE I, I KNOW IMPLEMENTING A NEW PROGRAM TAKES SOME TIME, SO THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS. ON THE 28TH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AT THE INVITATION EXPENSE OF MORSI TO TRAVEL TO, UH, MIAMI TO MEET WITH THE BRIGHT LINE FOLKS. HAD A GREAT MEETING, GOT TO SEE THE CEO DOWN THERE, HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THEIR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FOLKS. WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. THE PURPOSE OF OUR TRIP WAS, UH, WE HAVE A FSP OF FEDERAL STATE, UH, PARTNERSHIP [01:35:01] GRANT APPLICATION INTO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ASKING ALL OF THE RIGHT QUESTIONS SHOULD THEY BE INTERESTED IN THAT ROUTE. SO WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND WHAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO THEM AND, UH, WHAT INFORMATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE GLEANED FROM THAT APPLICATION. UH, I WANNA THANK JASKO ON THE EVENING OF THE 30TH. UH, SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THEIR, UH, CELEBRATION GALA, AND IT WAS A LOVELY TIME TOGETHER AND THEY RECOGNIZED THE CITY OF DUBLIN FOR, UH, THE WORK THAT WE DO TO BE AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A TREMENDOUS HONOR TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THAT AWARD ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF THAT JOINED. UH, ON THAT EVENING. WE HAD A COMMA MEETING ON THE FIRST. AND, UM, WE, WE WELCOMED SOME PEOPLE FROM THE PRESS, UH, PARTICULARLY MIKE SHEAR FROM THE DISPATCH, DOUG BUCHANAN FROM BUSINESS FIRST AND ANDREW KING FROM AXIOS, AND HAD A ROBUST CONVERSATION ON WHAT IT MEANS TO COVER NEWS STORIES, UH, IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS AND IN AROUND COLUMBUS. AND, UM, SO THAT WAS A A, A GOOD CONVERSATION. WE WALKED AWAY WITH SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM US AND, UH, COMMUNICATE SOME EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE FROM THEM. WE ALSO PASSED A, A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE PROPOSED OHIO CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO, UM, ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAXES. SO WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THAT. UM, AND WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING. UM, WANNA THANK THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT AND NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL FOR THE FANTASTIC LUNCH THAT THEY PUT ON, ON THE FIFTH. AND, UH, THEY RAISED MORE THAN A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS FOR NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL THROUGH THE, UH, EFFORTS OF THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT PRESENTED BY WORKDAY. WANNA THANK THEM FOR THAT AND CERTAINLY THE, THE CARE THAT THEY PROVIDE TO, UM, CHILDREN IN NEED. UH, AND THEN, UH, ALSO THE NATURALIZATIONS CEREMONY ON THE SIXTH. THAT WAS, IT'S, THOSE ARE JUST WONDERFUL CEREMONIES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING ALL OF THE RIGHT THINGS AND, UH, WANTING TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS DEMOCRACY. UH, AND THAT IS, IS A FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC THING TO CELEBRATE. UH, ONE LAST THING. WE DO HAVE A BIRTHDAY COMING UP THIS WE WEDNESDAY OUR VERY OWN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON WILL BE CELEBRATING HER BIRTHDAY ON WEDNESDAY. WE WISH YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. HERE'S A CARD ON BEHALF OF YOUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS STAFF. SO WE WILL, I WILL, I WILL DO YOU. MY GIFT TO YOU IS NOT SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU THIS EVENING, UM, BUT HOPE THAT IT'S A WONDERFUL BIRTHDAY. WITH THAT, IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER, WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.