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[Case #26-001ADMC]
CASE IS NUMBER 26 DASH 0 0 1 A DMC WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT ID SIX.ADMINISTRATIVE REQUEST CODE AMENDMENT.
ITS DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK FOR CODE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
ZONING CODE SECTIONS 1 5 3 0.016 AND 1 5 3 0.0 3 7 1 5 3 0.042 FOR THE CREATION OF THE ID.
SIX RESEARCH TRANSITION DISTRICT IN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT SETBACK AND BUFFER STUDY IS THE SECOND AND UPDATE ON THE SETBACK OF THE BUFFER STUDY AS IT RELATES TO THE ID SIX DISTRICT IMPLEMENTATION.
SO AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. HOHO FOR STAFF PRESENTATION.
UM, AS STATED TONIGHT, UH, IS STRICTLY FOR AN UPDATE TO, UH, A LOT OF THE WORK THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE ID SIX DISTRICT THAT'S BEING, UH, PROPOSED TO BE CREATED.
THE COMPANY'S A REZONING WHICH PLAN COMMISSION SAW LAST FEBRUARY.
SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU'VE SEEN UP ANY UPDATE, UM, ON THIS.
AND THERE'S A LOT TO FILL YOU IN ON.
SO, UM, WITH US, WE HAVE, UM, SOME CONSULTANTS WHO HAVE BEEN DOING WORK AND THEY'LL INTRODUCE THEMSELVES WHEN THEY GET UP HERE.
BUT I'LL START OFF WITH, UM, A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE LAST FEBRUARY.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO THE ROADMAP, WHICH WAS PROVIDED, WHICH AGAIN, IS NOT CODE, BUT IT IS MORE OF AN INTENT ABOUT WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING FOR CODE.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UH, THE BUFFER STUDY.
SO WE'RE GONNA ATTEMPT TO DO ALL OF THIS AT ONCE, SO BEAR WITH US 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO COVER.
BUT AFTER THAT, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE SOME TIME FOR SOME QUESTIONS.
SO WHEN THIS WAS SEEN BEFORE, UH, BY PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION, OR WHEN THE REZONING WAS SEEN BY PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, UM, IT INCLUDED 370 ACRES OF LAND, WHICH WOULD BE BOTH THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AND THE RED HIGHLIGHTED AREA.
AND WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED AT THE TIME WAS TO REZONE THE
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EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD AND THE YELLOW TO ID TWO, AND THEN THE WEST SIDE TO ID THREE.UM, AS OF TODAY, THE SCOPE OF THIS HAS BEEN, UH, LIMITED FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ID SIX DISCUSSION.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 144 ACRES AND IT'S FIVE PARCELS, WHICH WOULD BE WITHIN THAT ID SIX DESIGNATION.
SO IT WOULD BE EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT YELLOW AREA.
AND THE GOAL OF THIS WAS TO REALLY FOCUS ON, UH, A LOT OF THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS ALONG COS GRAY ROAD, UM, AS THAT'S A VERY SENSITIVE AREA WHERE WE DO HAVE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S TO THE EAST OF COS GRAY ROAD.
SO, UM, THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS OF A LOT OF OUR WORK TO DATE.
UM, THE AREA IN RED IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE REZONING OR CODE AMENDMENTS, BUT, UH, WOULD BE EXPECTED TO BE REVISITED IN THE FUTURE FOR ANY SUBSEQUENT PLANNING PHASES.
UM, SO REALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, AGAIN, THE OVERALL ALIGNMENT WITH THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN.
UM, THE FOCUS, AS I HAD STATED, REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS THE ROADMAP, WHICH WAS PROVIDED, UH, IN YOUR PACKETS, THE BUFFER STUDY AND HOW WE PLAN ON TREATING THAT.
AND THEN ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS FOR THE ROADMAP AND FOR THE BUFFER STUDY.
UM, WE WILL TAKE THE COMMENTS FROM THIS MEETING AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AND IN A LOT OF OUR STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, AND WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMO PLANNING COMMISSION AT A FUTURE DATE FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, BECAUSE THE REZONING HAS ALREADY BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR, IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BACK IN FEBRUARY, 2025.
THE REZONING WILL NOT BE BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, BUT THE CODE AMENDMENTS WILL NEED TO STILL BE FORWARDED BECAUSE THE REZONINGS AN ACTIVE APPLICATION WITH COUNCIL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SET THE FOCUS HERE, UH, FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
UM, THE CITY ADOPTED THE ENVISION DUBLIN COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE IN 2024.
THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AGAIN, IS OUR FOCUS AREA, UM, IS RECOMMENDED FOR FLEX INNOVATION.
AND THE INTENT STATEMENT IS LISTED ON THE SCREEN, INTENDED TO PROVIDE VIBRANT, MODERN DEVELOPMENT, INCORPORATING A VARIETY OF USES.
UM, THOSE USES ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN SUCH AS OFFICE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, FLEX OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND CLEAN MANUFACTURING.
AND THIS SITE IS JUST A SMALL PIECE OF THE LARGER WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, WHICH THAT MAP IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THIS CAPTURES ABOUT 2200 ACRES OF, OF LAND WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT, IT ALIGNS WITH WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THAT FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND TO ESTABLISH AN INNOVATION AND RESEARCH DISTRICT OUT IN THIS AREA.
UM, THERE ARE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE SITES.
AND FOR THIS AREA ALONG COSWAY ROAD, UM, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THERE BE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG COSWAY ROAD OF 200 FEET.
AGAIN, THAT'S TO TRANSITION AND SCREEN FROM EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, PRESERVATION OF THE 19 HUNDREDS FARMSTEAD, WHICH IS ON A PIECE OF LAND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE.
AND THEN JUST LEVERAGING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS JUST TO SET THE TONE OF KINDA WHERE WE'VE STARTED FROM WITH, WITH A LOT OF OUR REZONING EFFORTS.
AND THEN, UH, THE CODE AMENDMENTS TONIGHT.
UM, SO THIS IS TO REALLY JUST CAPTURE A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH, UH, BOTH THROUGH PUBLIC MEETING, BOTH THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENT SINCE, UH, THIS FIRST STARTED WITH COUNCIL.
SO THIS HAS BEEN TO COUNCIL FOUR TIMES.
UM, FOLLOWING THE FEBRUARY 20TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, IT WENT FOR AN INTRODUCTION IN FIRST READING IN MARCH OF 2017, NOT 2017, MARCH SEVEN 17TH IN 2025.
UM, AND THEN ALSO IN APRIL, JUNE IN AUGUST BEFORE IT WAS TABLED, UH, TO RECOMMEND STAFF TO LOOK INTO DOING AN IE SIX DISTRICT AND CREATING NEW CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE TARGETED, UM, AT ADDRESSING A LOT OF THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD AND CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.
UM, AS PART OF THAT, SEPARATE FROM THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WITH CITY COUNCIL, UM, WE HAD SEPARATE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, THROUGHOUT MAY, JUNE, AND JULY.
THAT WAS REALLY WHERE A MAJORITY OF OUR ENGAGEMENT WAS HELD, AND IT WAS HELD IN A VARIETY OF FORMATS.
UM, WE MET DIRECTLY WITH THE BALANCE TRAY, THE, THE BOARD THERE, THE HOA THERE AND SOME INDIVIDUALS AS PART OF THAT TO SHARE, UM, WHAT WE WERE DOING AND, AND TO HEAR MORE OF THEIR CONCERNS.
WE OPENED UP OPPORTUNITIES IN JUNE AND JULY, UH, TO HAVE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, WHICH WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SIT DOWN AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND, AND WALK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PLAN, BUT ALSO THE REZONING PROCESS AND, AND SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, AND THEN AS WE'VE WORKED ON THE ID SIX DISTRICT, WE, IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY,
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UH, HAVE MET WITH BOTH THE, THE BALANCE TRAY BOARD AND THEIR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, UM, TO SHARE A LOT OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PROPOSING OR THE INTENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE ROADMAP AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDERS.AND WE'LL SHARE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM, FROM BOTH OF THESE GROUPS.
SO THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UM, A LOT OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, UH, THE, THESE PARCELS BEING REZONED.
UH, THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT INDUSTRIAL USES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THAT THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL OR PHYSICAL IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCREASED TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON COS GREAT ROAD, INCREASED UTILITY NEEDS, AND THE IMPACTS OF THOSE UTILITY NEEDS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, LARGER BUILDING HEIGHTS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY VALUES, AND THEN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR WELLBEING AND AS WELL AS THEIR CHILDREN.
SO THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'VE TAKEN AND TRIED TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THESE, UM, CODE AMENDMENTS FOR.
SO A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT WITH THE INTENT OF THE ROAD ROADMAP IS AIMED AT TARGETING AND LIMITING, UM, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE HEARING HERE.
SO, UH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TAKEN THIS AND TRIED TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, WE ALSO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AND THOSE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT FOCUS ON, UH, THIS MORE FLEX AND RESEARCH INDUSTRY.
UM, AND THIS WAS JUST, AGAIN, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE HERE, UH, THE CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE, BUT ALSO THE DEVELOPABILITY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE.
SO THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS.
THIS IS NOT, THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT WHAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD AS THE ROADMAP.
IT'S JUST TO SHOW WHAT WE HAVE HEARD.
UM, AND AGAIN, MOVING FORWARD FROM HERE, WE WILL, WE'LL TAKE A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH US.
UM, SO I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT AS, UM, AN UPDATE.
AND THAT'S ALSO, THESE COMMENTS ARE ALSO IN YOUR, YOUR MEMO.
UH, THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED TO HIT WAS WE'VE ADDED A TON OF INFORMATION TO A WEBPAGE FOR THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT REZONING.
UM, IT HOLDS ALL COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT INCLUDES, UM, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FLYER, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE UPDATING AS WELL THROUGH THIS SINCE THE DIRECTION HAS CHANGED WITH THIS REZONING.
UM, BUT THIS IS, AGAIN, A, A PUBLIC FACING WEBPAGE THAT IS INTENDED TO HOLD EVERYTHING SO THAT WE ARE BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET THAT, UH, FOR ANYONE THAT DID NOT KNOW THAT THIS WAS OUT THERE, IT IS.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT WITHIN THESE PAGES THAT ANSWER A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS.
SO THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO GREG AND KEEGAN AND THEY WILL TALK ABOUT THE ROADMAP, UH, AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITH THAT.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MY NAME IS GREG DALE.
I'M WITH MCBRIDE DALE CLARION AT 57 21 DRAGON WAY IN CINCINNATI.
UH, WE ARE A PLANNING AND ZONING CONSULTING FIRM.
I RECOGNIZE A LOT OF YOU, WE'VE WORKED EXTENSIVELY HERE IN THE CITY AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
AND THEN KEEGAN STITT WHITE IS GOING TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING IN TERMS OF THE PRESENTING.
KEEGAN IS, UH, ONE OF OUR CODE DRAFTERS, AND HE RECENTLY DRAFTED A DISTRICT SIMILAR TO THIS IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY.
UH, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.
OUR JOB IS TO WRITE CODE THAT IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE CITY.
UM, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THAT.
ONE IS WE HAVE NOT WRITTEN THAT CODE YET.
UH, WE'RE CALLING THIS A ROADMAP, WHICH YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT'S SOUNDS LIKE.
IT'S A GUIDE TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO START WRITING CODE.
THINK OF IT AS AN ANNOTATED OUTLINE OF A FUTURE CODE WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO IDENTIFY THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, BUT HAVE NOT YET DONE THE DRAFTING AND THE DETAILS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GONNA BE ANSWERING DETAIL UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET INTO DRAFTING, DRAFTING THAT CODE.
BUT I WANTED TO SET THE STAGE WITH THAT BY TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF WHAT OUR STARTING POINT WAS IN THINKING ABOUT THIS.
UM, AND, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A JOB OF GO WRITE A NEW DISTRICT FOR THIS AREA.
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THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A WHOLE SERIES OF EFFORTS, UM, INCLUDING THE THINGS YOU SEE LISTED HERE, THE, CERTAINLY THE COUNCILS 25 AND 26 GOALS.BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANCE OF THINKING ABOUT THIS AS IMPLEMENTING RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RECOGNIZING THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF IS NOT JUST ABOUT COLORS ON A MAP AND WHAT SHOULD BE, WHERE IT WAS REALLY PART OF A CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED FRAMEWORK, UH, THAT INCLUDED LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, FISCAL MODELING.
IT WAS A VERY CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED, UH, SET OF, OF PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND I CAN SAY THAT WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
SO I'M, I I DON'T WANT THIS TO SOUND SELF-CONGRATULATORY, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT IS AN OUTGROWTH OF A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS.
SO YOU HAVE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS VERY CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED.
YOU THEN HAVE THE ZOOM IN ON THAT, WHICH OCCURS IN THE WEST INNOVATION SPECIAL AREA, UH, SPECIAL DISTRICT AREA PLAN, WHICH IS A DETAILED THAT ZACH JUST SHOWED YOU.
UH, THEN YOU HAVE A WHOLE SERIES OF INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THE INNOVATION DISTRICT INTEGRATED IMPLEMENTATION STUDY, WHICH IS KIND OF A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU IMPLEMENT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, ALL OF WHICH ARE THE, ARE THE GROUNDWORK FOR THIS.
AND WHAT I, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SELF-CONGRATULATORY 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT UP UNTIL THE CODE STARTS, BUT THIS IS, FRANKLY, AS ITS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN, THIS IS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS THE OUTGROWTH OF A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE INTO PREPARING FOR THIS FOR THIS POINT.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND.
UM, SO WHAT, UM, KEEGAN IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UM, IS A SERIES OF, OF, UH, I WANNA SAY IDEAS.
THEY'RE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPED IN CODE LANGUAGE YET.
UM, WHAT I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT, UM, WE MADE OUR BEST GOOD FAITH EFFORT AT TRYING TO BALANCE WHAT WE HEARD IN TERMS OF CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS THE POLICIES OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING THIS VERY IMPORTANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY IN THIS AREA.
KEEGAN READ EVERYTHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, WATCHED EVERY MEETING OF EVERY PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS MADE, AND I THINK MADE A VERY GOOD FAITH EFFORT IN WORKING WITH, WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH A SET OF, OF DIRECTIONS HERE IN TERMS OF CODE THAT DOES A, WE THINK A GOOD JOB OF BALANCING THAT.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT EVERYTHING THAT A CITIZEN ASKS FOR IN THAT? OF COURSE NOT.
WE WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT AND I CAN CAN SAY WITH, WITH, UH, CONFIDENCE THAT WE TRIED OUR BEST TO BALANCE THOSE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THINGS ABOUT SETBACKS AND BUILDING HEIGHTS AND LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN AFTER KEEGAN FINISHES THAT, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM MKSK TO TALK ABOUT THE BUFFER STUDY THAT THEY DID.
AND THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY IN A SENSE THAT YOU'VE COMMISSIONED A SEPARATE STUDY TO LOOK AT THAT TRANSITION BUFFER BETWEEN BALL TRAY AND THE, AND THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
MOST COMMUNITIES WOULD JUST SAY WRITE GOOD BUFFER STANDARDS AS PART OF THIS.
UH, BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME EXTRAORDINARY LEVEL OF DETAIL IN TERMS OF THAT, WHICH ULTIMATELY WE WILL INCORPORATE, ASSUMING YOU GIVE US THAT DIRECTION, WE WILL INCORPORATE IN THE CODE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UM, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.
SO I THINK, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.
WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO KEEGAN WHO'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE SYSTEMATICALLY.
AND THEN WE'LL BE READY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
UM, AS GREG SAID, MY NAME IS KEEGAN STEAD WHITE.
I'M A PLANNER WITH MCBRIDE DE CLARION, SAME ADDRESS, 57 21 DRAGON WAY.
SO BEFORE WE GET INTO KIND OF THE MEAT OF THE ROADMAP, ONE THING I DO WANNA BRING UP IS THERE IS ONE PROPOSED DISTRICT-WIDE CHANGE.
SO CURRENTLY WITHIN THE ID DISTRICTS, UM, DATA CENTERS ARE CONDITIONAL IN THE ID ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
AS PART OF THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS, IT WOULD BE PROPOSED THAT THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THOSE DISTRICTS AND ESSENTIALLY THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED THE ID SIX EITHER.
NOW TURNING TO THE ID SIX DISTRICT ITSELF, UM, IT'S PROPOSED TO BE CALLED THE ID SIX RESEARCH TRANSITION DISTRICT.
AND THE INTENT OF THIS DISTRICT IS TO CREATE CONTEXT SENSITIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INTEGRATED INTO BOTH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT ITSELF.
SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE ARE LOOKING AT USES OF LOWER INTENSITY THAT ARE LOCATED SOLELY WITHIN A BUILDING, SO NO OUTDOOR OPERATION AND WITH LIMITED TRAFFIC IMPACTS, ADDITIONALLY, THAT INTENSITY DRAWS TO THE SCALE AS THE BUILDINGS AS WELL.
THESE BUILDINGS ARE INTENDED TO BE OF LOWER FOOTPRINT AND HEIGHT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER
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ON.SO BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE USES THEMSELVES, I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A REMINDER ABOUT WHAT IS A PRINCIPLE USE AND AN ACCESSORY USE.
SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT PRINCIPLE USES, I'M TALKING ABOUT USES THAT ARE PREDOMINANT ON THE LOT.
THIS IS THE MAIN FUNCTION OF THAT LOT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT ACCESSORY USES.
THESE ARE USES THAT ARE INCIDENTAL AND SUBORDINATE TO A PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE, MEANING THEY CANNOT EXIST ON THEIR OWN ON A LOT.
A COMMON EXAMPLE I GIVE FOR THIS IS IF YOU HAVE A SHED BEHIND A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
NOW TURNING TO THE PROPOSED USES THEMSELVES, A LOT OF THESE USES SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR BECAUSE THEY CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE ID DISTRICTS.
THE BASIS FOR THIS DISTRICT WAS ACTUALLY THE ID TWO.
HOWEVER, BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENT, WE DID WHITTLE DOWN THOSE USES INTO A SET OF SIX, WHICH WE BELIEVE MEET THE INTENT OF THIS DISTRICT.
THE FIRST THREE USES SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR, OR FOUR, WHICH IS OFFICE GENERAL AND MEDICAL PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND CONSTRUCTION AND CONTRACT SERVICES.
ONE NOTE I DO WANNA MAKE ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AND CONTRACT SERVICES IS THAT THERE'S PROPOSED TO BE USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR THIS THAT WOULD LIMIT THE USE OF OUTDOOR.
SO NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OR NO OUTDOOR USES.
IF THIS USE WERE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ID SIX, THE NEXT USE SHOULD LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THAT DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST IN YOUR CODE, BUT ONE THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS DISTRICT.
SO IT IS CALLED ADVANCED MANUFACTURING.
UM, CURRENTLY IN YOUR CODE YOU DO HAVE A MANUFACTURING AND ASSEMBLY USE.
HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE MANY PROTECTIONS THROUGH THE DEFINITION.
THE GOAL OF THIS WOULD BE TO CREATE A USE THAT IS INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE, HOWEVER, CREATES SPECIFIC PROTECTIONS THAT REGULATE THE USE OF THE STRUCTURE AND LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF NUISANCES BEYOND PROPERTY LINES.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FULLY CONTAINED WITHIN A BUILDING, MINIMIZE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, EMISSIONS AND WASTE, AND SPECIFICALLY NOT CREATE ANY NOISE, VIBRATION, ODOR OR HAZARDOUS BYPRODUCTS DETECTABLE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE.
WHILE THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES INCLUDED ON THIS SLIDE FOR WHAT THAT COULD ENTAIL, THE GENERAL INTENT IS THAT IT'S TRYING TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF SKILL TRAINING THAT'S SPECIFIC TO A COMPANY.
AND THAT COMMONLY INVOLVES PROCESSES THAT ARE MORE ADVANCED THAN TYPICAL MANUFACTURING NEXUS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND FOR THIS USE, THIS IS AN EXISTING USE THAT'S PERMITTED IN THE ID ONE THROUGH FOUR.
HOWEVER, THERE WOULD BE A PROPOSITION TO FURTHER LIMIT THIS USE IN THIS DISTRICT, GIVEN THE CONTEXT SENSITIVE NATURE IN ORDER TO SPECIFICALLY LIST WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT PERMITTED WITHIN RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO ON HERE YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF LANGUAGE THAT IS INCLUDED.
SORRY, DO WANNA CLARIFY THAT THIS USE DOES NOT INCLUDE MANUFACTURING AND ASSEMBLY OR DIRECT RETAIL AS A PRINCIPLE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO NOW TURNING TO THE ACCESSORY USES, UM, ESSENTIALLY THERE'S BICYCLE FACILITIES, COMMUNITY ACTIVITY, CONSTRUCTION, TRAILER AND OFFICE PARKING STRUCTURES, UTILITIES, ESSENTIAL SERVICES, RENEWABLE ENERGY AND VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS.
ONE THING YOU'LL SEE ON HERE IS THAT THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO ALLOW WAREHOUSING, WHOLESALING AND DISTRIBUTION AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
GIVEN THE NATURE OF THIS DISTRICT, IT IS INTENDED THAT SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES WILL LIKELY HAVE TO STORE SOME OF THEIR PRODUCT.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE A MANUFACTURING USE, THERE'S OFTEN AN INCIDENTAL AND SUBORDINATE AREA FOR THEM TO STORE PRODUCT AND THEN DISTRIBUTE IT LATER ON.
THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LARGE SCALE MANUFACTURING, OR SORRY, LARGE SCALE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.
IT'S SOLELY FOR THE INCIDENTAL AND SUBORDINATE USE OF THIS, THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF A LABORATORY FACILITY WANTED TO SHIP OFF PROTOTYPES, THEY WOULD NEED SOMEWHERE TO STORE THOSE PROTOTYPES.
THIS USE WOULD BE THEN PERMITTED TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO TURNING TO THE SIMILAR USE DETERMINATION, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN YOUR CODE.
WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THAT.
SO ANY USE THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN THE ID SIX WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN ORDER TO BE PERMITTED.
AND IT'LL HAVE TO ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CRITERIA THAT ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
TURN TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ITSELF, AS I MENTIONED THIS DISTRICT'S BASIS WAS THE ID TWO.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL STANDARDS IN HERE THAT SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR BECAUSE THEY ALSO DO MIMIC THAT DISTRICT SUCH AS THE TWO ACRE MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
AND THE 75% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE OR MINIMUM ONE SHOULD BE MAXIMUM.
HOWEVER, THE ONE THING THAT HAS CHANGED THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IS THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
SO IN THE OTHER ID DISTRICTS, THERE'S A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 68 FEET THAT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO 45 FEET HERE, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES ANY SCREENING ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE INCLUDED INTO THAT MAXIMUM.
ADDITIONALLY, WHAT'S CHANGED IS THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE'S A VARIABLE SETBACK THAT'S PROPOSED BASED ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
SO AS THE BUILDINGS GET TALLER, THE SETBACK GROWS LARGER.
SO IF YOU HAVE A 45 FOOT BUILDING, YOU WOULD HAVE A 35 FOOT SETBACK.
ADDITIONALLY, ANOTHER THING THAT WILL BE CODIFIED, WHICH GREG MENTIONED, IS THE 200 FOOT BUFFER ALONG COS GRAY ROAD.
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ADDITIONALLY THERE'S ANOTHER 150 FOOT BUFFER THAT IS PROPOSED FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT A ALONG COS GRAY ROAD.REGARDING OUTDOOR OPERATIONS, AS I MENTIONED, THE INTENT IS FOR ALL OF THESE USES TO BE DONE INSIDE OF A BUILDING.
SO OUTDOOR OPERATIONS WOULD BE PROHIBITED AND OUTDOOR STORAGE WOULD BE PROHIBITED ALONG COS GRAY ROAD, AND THAT IS MAINLY TO PREVENT ANY SORT OF LIGHT OR NOISE INTRUSION ACROSS THE ROAD SERVICE AREAS.
ADDITIONALLY WOULD BE PROHIBITED ALONG COSWAY AND SIGNS WOULD BE PROHIBITED ALONG COSWAY AS WELL.
AND REGARDING THE SETBACK AND BUFFER STUDY, I'LL HAVE MKSK TALK ABOUT.
THAT IS TRULY AN EXTENSIVE STUDY AND I THINK IT MEETS THE INTENT OF WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS LOOKING FOR REGARDING THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE INTENT WOULD BE, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE ID TWO, HOWEVER, SINCE THERE IS A FOCUS ON THESE SMALLER BUILDING FOOTPRINTS, UM, THERE WILL BE A HIGHER ATTENTION PAID TO THE QUALITY OF DETAIL AND DESIGN OF THESE BUILDINGS.
WE ALSO WANT TO SEE GREATER ARCHITECTURAL EMPHASIS ALONG COS GRAY ROAD.
SO BELOW THAT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PERMITTING PERMITTED BUILDING MATERIALS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.
UM, FOR THE PRIMARY MATERIALS, 80% OF A BUILDING FACADE IS REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED OF ONE OF THOSE MATERIALS, WHICH ARE ALL HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS THAT WILL BE FURTHER, UM, LOOKED AT AS WE CONTINUE AS WE START DRAFTING THE CODE.
SO REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, THIS IS THE SAME EXACT PROCESS, UM, THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER.
SO THE PROJECTS WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN THE ID DISTRICTS.
AND AT THAT POINT, THAT IS THE REST OF MY PRESENTATION.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MKSK TO TALK ABOUT THE BUFFER STUDY.
WE'RE HOLDING OUR QUESTIONS TO THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
UM, AS WAS MENTIONED, I'M WITH MKSK, WE'RE AT PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM, UM, BASED OUT OF COLUMBUS, OHIO.
UM, I HAVE CHRIS HARMER WITH ME AS WELL TODAY.
UM, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN COLUMBUS.
UH, OUR ADDRESS IS 4 6 2 SOUTH LOLOW STREET, UM, DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS.
UH, SO AS, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, UH, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A LITTLE, LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, JUST A VERY SPECIFIC PIECE OF, OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
I'M GONNA START A LITTLE, UH, A HIGHER LEVEL.
UM, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS TODAY.
UM, TALK ABOUT THE APPROACH AND STRATEGY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THEN DIG, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE ID SIX AREA.
UM, SO KEEP IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE THINKING HERE IS THINKING DISTRICT WIDE.
UM, AND, AND THEN AGAIN AT THE END, UM, SORT OF HONING IN ON ON WHAT THAT MEANS FOR, FOR ID SIX, UM, GOING BACK TO THAT 200 FOOT SETBACK AND, AND THAT SORT OF CONDITION.
UM, SO JUST TO START, UM, HERE, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY THE, THE INTENT OF THIS STUDY, UM, IS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT AN UPDATED APPROACH, UH, FOR SCREENING, THE VIEW OF FUTURE BUILDINGS, UM, WITHIN THE WID.
UM, THIS INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS, SERVICE AREAS, UM, PARKING, UM, ALL FROM THE, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND FROM EXISTING RESIDENCES.
AND BY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, WE'RE REFERRING TO, YOU KNOW, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, UH, AND TRAILS.
UM, THIS IS ALSO TO SORT OF ESTABLISH, UM, AN AGREED UPON, YOU KNOW, SORT OF DESIRED CHARACTER FOR THE PUBLIC REALM, UM, WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
AND THEN, UM, LASTLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A METHOD FOR IMPLEMENTING, UH, THESE DESIRED SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, UM, THROUGH THE ZONING CODE UPDATE.
UM, SO THE THREE KEY OBJECTIVES, UM, LISTED THERE FOR THIS STUDY.
UM, APPLYING SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES, PROTECTING ECONOMIC VIABILITY, UM, AND DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THESE PROPERTIES AND ESTABLISHING, UH, CLARITY AND, UH, PREDICTABILITY AND EXPECTATIONS FOR SCREENING AND BUFFERING.
SO, AND WHEN SOMEONE'S COMING IN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED, UM, SORT OF EXPECTATION FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, MAKES THAT APPROVAL PROCESS, UM, EASIER.
LANDOWNER DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, KNOWS WHAT TO EXPECT COMING INTO THIS, UM, IN TERMS OF SETBACK AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO LET'S START WITH, UH, EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO JUST TO SORT OF GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT EXISTING SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, UM, TODAY IN THIS AREA, UM, GENERALLY BASED ON, UH, STREET TYPOLOGY, UM, WITH THE MAXIMUM, UM, YOU KNOW, FRONT OR SETBACK BEING 50 FEET, UM, FOR OUR ARTERIAL STREETS.
AND A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THAT HERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP THERE THE ARTERIAL REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK, UM, BEING THAT 50 FOOT SETBACK, UM, COLLECTORS BEING 35 FOOT SETBACK AND LOCAL, UH, STREETS BEING 30 FOOT SETBACK.
UM, SO AS YOU, YOU KNOW, WOULD IMAGINE WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE, UM, WITHIN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND STRATEGIES IS, IS, IS GONNA REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
UM, SO I WANNA JUST SHOW A COUPLE EXAMPLES HERE.
I HAVE TWO OR THREE SLIDES, UM, JUST SHOWING SOME, SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT, UM, TODAY FOLLOWING THESE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT THAT'S SORT OF WHAT THAT'S RESULTED IN, UM, BASED ON THOSE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS TODAY.
UM, SO THIS FIRST ONE, UM, VA DATA.
UM, YOU CAN SEE 95 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK, UM, WITH A 60 FOOT PAVEMENT SETBACK.
UM, AND THEN JUST SORT OF EVENLY SPACED, YOU KNOW, TREE PLANTINGS, UM,
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ESSENTIALLY SCREENING THE PARKING, UM, FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UM, WITH VIEWS, UH, TO THE BUILDING.UH, URBAN AIR TRAMPOLINE AND ADVENTURE PARK.
UM, AS YOU SEE IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER, UH, THAT IS A 35 FOOT PAVEMENT SETBACK WITH A 75 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK, UM, BASED ON THOSE EXISTING REQUIREMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, FULL VIEW OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND, AND HERE, UM, PARKING AS WELL GENERALLY, UM, GIVEN THAT LIMITED SETBACK.
UM, AND THEN SIMILARLY WITH, UH, COMMAND, UM, DOWN ON THE BOTTOM THERE, UM, 65 FOOT SETBACK FROM 1 61, UM, 115, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE.
UM, VERY LIMITED SCREENING, UM, ESSENTIALLY, AGAIN, SCREENING THE, THE, THE PARKING, UM, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT SITE.
UM, AND THEN SIMILARLY, UM, WITHIN THAT I'M GONNA TOUCH JUST BRIEFLY ON, UM, YOU KNOW, PLANTING STRATEGIES IN THIS.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS, YOU KNOW, SEASONALITY, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE SCREENING, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, IS OCCURRING YEAR ROUND, UM, NOT JUST WHEN THE, THE TREES ARE IN BLOOMERS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE LEFT, UM, IN THE SUMMER.
UM, THOSE ARE YOUNG TREES, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF SCREENING.
BUT THEN IN THE WINTER, UM, WHEN THOSE TREES DO NOT HAVE LEAVES ON THEM, UM, ESSENTIALLY FULLY UM, VISIBLE.
UM, SO THAT'LL COME BACK INTO PLAY HERE, UM, WHEN WE GET INTO STRATEGIES.
UH, BUT THIS JUST REAL QUICK, UM, AGAIN, UM, JUST TO TOUCH ON THIS ONE MORE TIME.
YOU LOOK AT THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE MAXIMUM SETBACK REQUIRED TODAY OF 50 FEET ON ARTERIAL STREETS.
AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, EVEN JUST A SIX FOOT TALL MOUND, UM, UH, ON THE RIGHT UP TO 10 AND 12 FOOT MOUND, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST ISN'T QUITE ENOUGH SPACE, UH, TO ACHIEVE THAT.
UM, JUST IN THE MOUNTING ALONE, AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THE OTHER SORT OF COMPONENTS THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT.
UM, BUT THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE EXAMPLE, UM, EXHIBIT TO SHOW, UM, JUST THE MOUNT ITSELF, THAT'S NOT QUITE ENOUGH SPACE.
UM, SO KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT.
UM, AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, ORIGINAL, UH, WOOD SETBACKS OF SCREENING, UM, THOSE WERE ESTABLISHED WITH TRADI, TRADITIONAL DUBLIN LANDSCAPE TREATMENTS, UM, INTENDED TO SCREEN ESSENTIALLY THE PARKING LOTS, UM, WHILE KEEPING THE VIEWS OF, UM, THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WERE BUILT IN THOSE AREAS, UH, AND, AND SCREENING UP THE PARKING FROM THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, BUT WE'RE HERE TO PROPOSE SOME CONSIDERATIONS, UM, FOR CHANGING THAT IN THIS AREA.
UM, WE'RE PROVIDING, UM, ADDITIONAL SCREENING, ESPECIALLY, UM, IN ID SIX'S ZONE.
UH, SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED ON THE LAST SLIDE, ADDITIONAL SETBACKS, UM, WILL, YOU KNOW, LIKELY BE NEEDED TO ACHIEVE THAT SCREENING, UM, AND GET THOSE SORT OF MOUNTING HEIGHTS AND PLANTING, UH, THE PLANTING DENSITY THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE HERE TO PROPOSE TODAY.
UM, AND THEN LANDSCAPE AND PLANTING STRATEGIES.
UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA TOUCH ON THAT IN DETAIL TONIGHT, UM, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AS WELL.
WHETHER, WHAT ARE THOSE TREE SPECIES, UM, WHAT DOES THAT SORT OF PLANTING PALLET LOOK LIKE AND, AND APPROACH TO THAT.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEPING IN MIND TOO, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT LARGER SETBACKS AND WHAT EXISTS TODAY THAT DOES PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE WID, UH, FOR PLACEMAKING AND OTHER, UM, SORT OF DUBLIN, UM, HIGHLIGHTING DUBLIN CHARACTER AND, AND INNOVATION THIS DISTRICT, WHILE PRESERVING THAT RURAL CHARACTER, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON NEXT.
SO, UM, TO MOVE INTO WHAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON, UM, AS OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF RECOMMENDED APPROACH, UH, IN THIS AREA, UH, GIVEN THAT, UH, AGAIN, THE WI LANDSCAPE CHARACTER TODAY, UM, PRIMARILY AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL, UM, WE WANT TO PRESERVE THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO, WE WANNA SHOWCASE SOME OF THE INNOVATION AND THINGS THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THIS DISTRICT, BUT OVERALL HOLISTICALLY, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE PRESERVING THAT, THAT RURAL CHARACTER, UH, IN THIS AREA AS WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE ENVISION DUBLIN, UM, PLAN.
UM, SO THAT INCLUDES THINGS AS I HAVE LISTED IN, IN ORANGE THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING TREE ROWS AND STANDS OF TREES, NATIVE GRASSLANDS, PRAIRIE OPEN CANOPIES, UM, PERIODIC SMALL STRUCTURES AS YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE IN A, IN A FARMSTEAD.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, STILL PRESERVING IN, IN, IN STRATEGIC AREAS, THOSE SORT OF PERIODIC VISTAS, UM, AND LONG VIEWS INTO SOME OF THE FIELDS AND, AND PASTURES, UM, AS THEY EXIST TODAY.
TYLER, CAN I INTERRUPT FOR JUST A SECOND? YEAH.
SO, SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SETBACKS AND SCREENING, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TWO THINGS.
HOW IT'S ACTUALLY SCREENING WHATEVER IS BUILT ON THE PROPERTIES BEHIND.
BUT ALSO I THINK WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE HEAR FROM YOU IS THE IMPORTANCE OF ALSO CREATING CHARACTER ON THE CORRIDOR.
UH, BECAUSE YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, WHAT PEOPLE REALLY EXPERIENCE OF A COMMUNITY IS WHAT THEY SEE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THAT EXPERIENCE ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, AND WE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND OTHER THINGS TOO.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY WE WANNA PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? WE, WE FOCUS ON WHAT HAPPENS ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, WHAT DO YOU EXPERIENCE? AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH A PLACE.
AND THE REALITY IS, WHEN WE THINK OF RURAL PLACES, IT'S THE, THE IS FRAMED BY TREE ROWS.
THE TREE ROWS BECOME VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, AND IT'S NOT A CONTINUOUS MOUND THAT HAS THE SAME FORM WITH TREES PLANTED
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AT REGULAR SPACING, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLUSTERS OF TREES.IT'S, UH, THINGS THAT HAPPEN ONCE IN A WHILE.
THERE'S A STRUCTURE CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE THOSE IDEAS SO THAT WE'RE CREATING, UH, STREET EDGES THAT DO KIND OF MIMIC SOME OF THAT RURAL CHARACTER AND DON'T FEEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST A GIVEAWAY NOW, IF YOU SEE A MOUND WITH EVENLY SPACED TREES, YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL IT'S HIDING SOME KIND OF LARGE USE BEHIND THERE.
SO THINKING ABOUT HOW TO, WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT, BUT THINKING ABOUT HOW TO CHANGE THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AND BE, AND THINK ABOUT THE RURAL CHARACTER THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE KEEP TALKING ABOUT.
AND WE'LL HAVE SOME IMAGES TOWARDS THE END, UM, THAT DO KIND OF SHOW THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, A COUPLE RENDERING IMAGES, UM, SPECIFICALLY ON COS GRAY ROAD.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST POINT THERE, CHRIS ALREADY STARTED TOUCHING ON THIS, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, RURAL WIND BREAKS AND THOSE, PRESERVING THOSE TREE ROWS.
UM, AND, AND THINKING ABOUT HOW THOSE ARE USED, UM, HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA.
UM, SO, UH, AS, AS CHRIS WAS STARTING TO, TO TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT, UM, LET'S START HERE JUST WITH, WITH SLOPE.
SO THIS IS GONNA GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL HERE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE DETAIL, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DOWN IN THE WEEDS.
UM, BUT JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW US SORT OF THE THROWNNESS OF HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND, AND WHAT WE MEAN AGAIN, BY THIS RURAL CHARACTER, UM, AND APPROACH IN THIS AREA.
SO WHAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN NOW IS, IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT, THAT DIAGRAM THERE, SIX TO ONE SLOPE, UM, BEING ON THE PUBLIC FACING SIDE OF THAT MOUND, UM, GIVING THAT MORE SORT OF NATURAL, UH, SLOPE LOOK SO WE'RE NOT CREATING A WALL.
UM, AND WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO STILL GO UP, YOU KNOW, HIGH ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY SCREEN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SCREEN.
UM, WHILE ON THE BACKSIDE, UM, WE'RE SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, THREE TO ONE SLOPE, UM, THAT'S ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.
IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, STILL TRYING TO PRESERVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT DEVELOPABLE GROUND, UM, WHICH WE'LL TOUCH ON AS WELL, UM, AS WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER IN HERE.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, AS, AS CHRIS MENTIONED ON THE LEFT, THERE IS SORT OF THAT TYPICAL, UM, WHAT WE'VE LABELED AS A TOOTHPASTE MOUND, UM, THAT YOU'LL OFTEN SEE FOR SCREENING JUST THAT CONTINUOUS MOUND, ONE HEIGHT, UM, SINGLE FORM.
UM, WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING FOR THIS AREA, AGAIN, UH, FOR THAT RULE CHARACTER, UM, IT'S TO KEEP THIS LOOKING A LITTLE MORE NATURAL AND NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S SUCH AN OBVIOUS, UM, SCREENING MECHANISM IS, UH, YOU KNOW, OVERLAPPING UNDULATING MOUNDS.
SO THAT SLOPE MAY VARY, UM, ALONG THE MOUND.
UM, THERE MIGHT BE BREAKS IN THE MOUND, UH, WHERE THE MOUNDS START TO OVERLAP, UM, ALONG, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LONGER CORRIDORS.
UM, AND YOU START TO, AGAIN, IT GETS TO THE PLANTING'S AT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, UM, MOUNTING AT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, THE GRASS IS AT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM THERE SORT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN COMPARISON TO THAT TYPICAL, UM, MOUNTING APPROACH THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SEE.
AND THEN I, I STARTED HINT TO THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, UM, BUT IN THE MIDDLE THERE, UM, THE ORANGE IS, IS THAT MOUND.
SO YOU, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THOSE AND SEE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A 50 FOOT SETBACK TODAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALMOST FITTING A, A, A SIX FOOT OR 10 FOOT, 12 FOOT MOUND IN THAT, UM, WHY ARE WE SUGGESTING, UH, YOU KNOW, 150 FEET, 200 FEET IN SOME AREAS? THERE'S MORE THAT GOES INTO IT THAN JUST THE MOUND.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE FROM THE BUILDING.
UM, WE HAVE DRIVES PARKING LOTS, UM, STORM WATER TO, TO DEAL WITH.
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE IN CERTAIN AREAS THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR UNDERGROUND ELECTRICAL EASEMENT.
UM, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DIG UP PLANTINGS AND MOUNDS, UM, TO ACCESS THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT'S ALL ON TOP OF, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC DRIVEWAY, OUTSIDE OF THE STREETS, SIDEWALKS, UM, THAT ALL STARTS TO, YOU KNOW, ADD UP.
UM, AND, AND IT CAN VARY DEPENDING ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, CORRIDOR WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WHAT SITE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT, UH, IS STORMWATER CONSIDERATIONS.
UM, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT APPROACHES.
UM, AGAIN, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS LOOKING, UM, DISTRICT WIDE.
UM, SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT MULTIPLE SCENARIOS HERE.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S AREAS WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, THE SETBACK IS MAYBE A LITTLE TIGHTER IN CERTAIN AREAS, WE MAY HAVE THE STORM WATER ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THE MOUND, UM, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE MORE ENGINEERED.
UM, AND THERE'S A TERMINOLOGY THAT WE'VE USED HERE.
AND THEN IF THERE'S AREAS WHERE MAYBE WE WANT THE WATER TO BE A FEATURE, UM, WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UM, AND WITHIN THESE SETBACKS, UM, IT COULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE OF THE MOUND, UM, SOMETHING SUCH AS THE BOTTOM IMAGE THERE, UM, WHERE YOU'RE USING IT AS A FEATURE, UM, IN THAT, IN THAT CHARACTER AND CONDITION, UM, OF THOSE CORRIDORS.
AND THEN PLANTING STRATEGY, UM, VERY KEY PIECE OF THIS.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THIS, UM, YEAR ROUND.
UM, SO IT'D BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A MIX OF, OF PLANT TYPES, UM, PLANT SPECIES, UM, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, NOT EVENLY SPACED PLANTINGS, UM, SORT OF GROUPINGS, MORE NATURALIZED GROUPINGS, UM, HAVING SOME EVERGREEN TREES IN THERE, UM, ESPECIALLY ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE MOUND SO THAT YOU DO GET THAT YEAR-ROUND SCREENING.
UM, MORE THE DECIDUOUS TREES, MAYBE MORE ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, UM, WHICH YOU ARE USED TO SEEING, UM, AS A STREET TREE TYPOLOGY.
AND THEN, UM, CONSIDERING SHRUBS AND, AND, AND TALLER GRASSES AND THINGS, UM, ALONG THE MOUNDS.
UM, MAYBE EVEN, UM, OUT IN, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE SIDEWALK ON THE PUBLIC SIDE.
UM, SO THIS IS ALSO A PIECE OF THIS THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
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TOO MANY DETAILS ON, ON, ON PLANT TYPES AND THINGS TONIGHT.UM, SO THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
UM, THIS IS A, A STANDARD 10 FOOT, UM, BERM HEIGHT FOR SCREENING.
UM, YOU COULD SEE HOW THESE THINGS START TO COME TOGETHER AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BOTH IN 3D AT THE TOP THERE.
AND THEN FROM A, A SIDE VIEW ON THE BOTTOM, UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF STUDIES AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, DIFFERENT SETBACKS, UM, DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO PLANTINGS, AND LOOKING AT WHAT THAT VIEW LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UM, AS IS SEEN DOWN THERE ON THE BOTTOM.
AND THEN THE SPACING REQUIRED TO SORT OF GET THAT CONDITION, UM, AND PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, SO SOME OF THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT GETTING IN THE SCREENING THAT WE WANT ON THE PUBLIC PUBLIC SIDE THERE.
UM, AND YOU COULD SEE SWITCHING JUST BETWEEN THE, THE 10 FOOT AND THE 14 FOOT HEIGHT, UM, HOW THAT STARTS TO CHANGE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIRED SETBACK, UM, TO GET THAT, GIVEN THE SLOPES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SUGGESTING, UM, TO KEEP THAT NATURAL CHARACTER.
SO AT 10 FOOT HEIGHT, WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE 150 FOOT SETBACK, 14 FOOT HEIGHT BERM, COULD GO UP TO A 200 FOOT SETBACK, UM, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF, UH, MENTIONED THIS EARLY ON, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT, UM, THAT PROPERTY ON THE PRIVATE SIDE? SO JUST A COUPLE QUICK STUDIES TO SHOW, UH, THOSE DIFFERENT SETBACKS, 120 FEET, UM, 150 AND 200, UM, HOW THAT IMPACTS DEVELOPABLE LAND, UM, WHERE THOSE ARE HAPPENING.
SO YOU COULD SEE THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, 200 FOOT SETBACK, UM, MORE ON THOSE PRIMARY STREETS ON THE SORT OF THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, MAYBE IF THERE'S A PRIMARY STREET ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, YOU'RE HAVING THAT LARGE SETBACK AND THEN ON THE SIDE AND REAR, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE MORE OUT OF THE PUBLIC VIEWING OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THOSE SETBACKS ARE MAYBE A LITTLE SMALLER.
UM, NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT SCREENING IN THOSE INSTANCES.
UH, BUT YOU COULD SEE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN INSIGNIFICANT, UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE LARGER PROPERTIES.
IT'S, IT'S ALSO NOT AS, UM, UM, IMPACTFUL NECESSARILY ON THE DEVELOPABLE LAND, STILL ACHIEVING, UM, WHAT BOTH PARTIES WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE SORT OF LAYING OUT HERE, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW TO APPROACH THIS AND HOW TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND, UM, HOLISTICALLY ACROSS THE DISTRICT, AGAIN, UH, AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FUTURE PHASES, UM, BEYOND, UM, WHAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON HERE TONIGHT, UM, IS SORT OF THREE DIFFERENT APPROACHES DEPENDING ON THE PROPERTY TYPE AND THE LOCATION WITHIN THE WOOD.
UH, SO WE'RE CALLING THESE ENHANCED BUFFERING, WHICH IS THAT FIRST, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THAT 150 TO 200 FOOT SETBACK, UM, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FULLY SCREEN BUILDINGS, PARKING SERVICE AREAS.
UM, THE MOUNTS A LITTLE TALLER, THE PLANTINGS ARE MAYBE A LITTLE DENSER.
UM, AND THEN THAT TRADITIONAL LANDSCAPE WHERE THERE'S MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE LIMITED SETBACK, THE PROPERTY'S NOT AS LARGE AND DOESN'T ALLOW FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT 150 TO 200 FOOT SETBACK.
UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL SCREENING THE PARKING, THE SERVICE AREAS AND THINGS.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT APPROACHES THERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD INVOLVE MOUNTING OR COULD JUST INVOLVE VERY DENSE PLANTING, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.
AND THEN THE THIRD ONE BEING ICONIC MOMENTS.
AND THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY JUST GATEWAY OPPORTUNITIES.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS OR OTHER IDENTIFIED, UM, IMPORTANT AREAS, TRANSITION ZONES, UM, BETWEEN CERTAIN AREAS, UM, WHERE WE MAYBE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FURTHER EMPHASIZE THAT DOUBLING CHARACTER, UM, AND BRING A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO PLANTINGS AND, AND, UH, THOSE, THOSE GATEWAYS AT THOSE GATEWAYS.
AND SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, UM, IN TERMS OF PLANTING CONDITION, MOUNTING CONDITION AND SETBACKS.
UM, YOU COULD SEE AT THE TOP THERE, ALL THREE OF THOSE, UH, THAT MIDDLE TRADITIONAL LANDSCAPE.
AGAIN, MAYBE IT HAS MOUNTING, MAYBE IT DOESN'T, MAYBE IT'S JUST VERY DENSE PLANTINGS.
YOU COULD SEE THE, THE SETBACK, UM, IN THESE INSTANCES, UH, SORT OF VARIES, UM, AND STARTS TO, TO NARROW DOWN IN SIZE DEPENDING ON THE CONDITION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT OVERALL, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP A CONSISTENT CHARACTER THROUGH ALL OF THIS, UM, THROUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE WIND, REGARDLESS OF, UM, WHICH OF THESE APPROACHES WE'RE TAKING OR HOW BIG THE SETBACK IS.
UM, WE WANT CONSISTENCY AND, AND PLANTING TYPES AND APPROACH TO, TO THAT SCREENING.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN HOW MUCH LAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS DOES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL CORRIDORS AND, AND NEW HABITATS IN THESE AREAS.
IT'S, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF SPACE, UM, FOR NEW PLANTINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, AREN'T THERE TODAY.
UH, AND SO STARTING WITH ENHANCED BUFFERING, UM, JUST NOTING AGAIN A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
UM, THIS, THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAIN EXAMPLE I SHOWED EARLIER, THOSE LARGE, UM, UNDULATING OVERLAPPING MOUNDS.
UM, THIS WOULD BE ALONG KEY PUBLIC ARTERIALS, UH, WHEN SPACE ALLOWS AGAIN, UM, AND THOSE HEIGHTS COULD POTENTIALLY VARY, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO FULLY SCREEN BUILDINGS, UM, SCREEN PARKING, SCREEN SERVICE.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE THE PROPOSED CONDITION ALONG ANY CORRIDORS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, WHICH I'LL AGAIN, EXPAND ON FURTHER, UH, LATER ON.
UM, AND THEN THAT SECOND ONE, TRADITIONAL LANDSCAPE, UH, THIS IS WHERE THERE MAY BE NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO DO THAT, UM, SORT OF FULL, YOU KNOW, LARGER MOUND HEIGHTS.
SO AGAIN, THIS COULD BE AREAS OF SMALLER MOUNTS, UM, OR NO MOUNTS AT ALL.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALONG CORRIDORS ADJACENT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER INDUSTRIAL LAND USES.
YOU THINK INTERNALLY, IF THERE'S MULTIPLE PROPERTIES WHERE THERE'S INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS SORT OF ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, UM, OR THOSE INTERNAL CORRIDORS, WE WANNA
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STILL KEEP THAT CHARACTER, THEY'RE PUBLIC STREETS, UM, BUT WE'RE NOT, UM, AS CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO SCREEN FROM, FROM EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET.THIS IS WHERE WE START TO CONSIDER SOME OF THOSE, UH, TYPES OF SCREENING APPROACHES.
AND, UM, AS NOTED AT THE BOTTOM THERE IN, IN ANY AREAS WHERE WE MAY WANNA ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHT THE ARCHITECTURE, UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, THE BUILDING OR USE IS.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE ICONIC MOMENTS.
I, I KIND TOUCHED ON THIS ALREADY, UM, BUT THIS IS SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, KINDA THOSE KEY GATEWAY MOMENTS, UM, ROUNDABOUTS PRIMARY SITE ENTRIES.
UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT A VERY SIMILAR APPROACH TO, TO ENTRIES REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE CORRIDOR THEY'RE ON, UM, HOW YOU SAW THAT SAME SORT OF CHARACTER, UM, AT THOSE MOMENTS AS WELL.
AND THEN, SO WHAT WE DID FROM THERE WAS TAKE THE, UM, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, THAT YOU SAW EARLIER AND JUST STARTED THINKING AGAIN, THE INITIAL APPROACH.
UM, SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS ON WHERE THESE TEND TO MAKE SENSE, UH, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.
UM, SO THE, UH, MAYBE HARD TO DIFFERENTIATE THE, THE, THE GREEN AND THE TEAL THERE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT THAT TEAL COLOR BEING MORE OF THAT ENHANCED BUFFERING, UM, MORE SIGNIFICANT SCREENING, UM, CORRIDORS, UH, THE GREEN BEING THE TRADITIONAL LANDSCAPE APPROACH, UM, WHERE THE SETBACKS MAY BE A LITTLE MORE LIMITED.
AND THEN THOSE BRIGHT RED, UM, CIRCLES ON THERE ARE THOSE, UH, IDENTIFIED, UM, ICONIC MOMENTS OR GATEWAY MOMENTS, UM, WITHIN THE WOOD.
WHILE I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THAT MAP, KNOWING WE'VE GOT RESIDENTS FROM BALL TRAY, WE PROBABLY SHOULD PUT A.BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND A BALANCE TRACK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK MAKES SOME SENSE.
UM, AND THEN, SO I'LL JUST END HERE.
UM, AGAIN, COMING BACK TO WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, WHICH IS ID SIX, UM, AND, AND WHAT WE, UH, SHOW THIS AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO THIS IS, UM, ALONG COSWAY ROAD.
UM, I REALLY WANNA POINT OUT HERE, UM, NOT JUST THE IMPACT OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE SORT OF DIMENSIONALLY, UM, ON THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST, UM, BUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY MEAN BY 200 FOOT FOOT SETBACKS, SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SECTION, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN ON THE RIGHT, UM, IS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, THE EXISTING SCREEN THAT EXISTS TODAY BEHIND THOSE RESIDENCES, UM, AND THEN THERE'S STREET, UM, AND THIS IS EXPANDED STREET, YOU COULD SEE MARKED ON THE MAP, ADDITIONAL FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY, UM, HOW THAT STREET WOULD BE WIDENING.
AND THEN THAT SETBACK, 200 FOOT SETBACK STARTS, UM, AT THAT RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
SO THAT GREEN ON THE MAP IS THAT SETBACK.
SO, UM, THE POINT HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 200 FOOT SETBACK IS NOT 200 FEET FROM THE CURB OR 200 FEET FROM AN EXISTING BUILDING.
IT'S, IT'S 200 FEET FROM THAT RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
SO THAT IN TOTAL, UM, LIKE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE RIGHT TO POTENTIAL BUILDING ON THE, UH, LEFT THERE, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUSHING 400 PLUS FEET, UM, 500 FEET BETWEEN THOSE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE, THE SETBACK.
SO FOR COSWAY ROAD, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THAT SORT OF LARGER SETBACK, 200 FOOT SETBACK THAT WAS MENTIONED.
UM, WE'RE ILLUSTRATING HERE, UH, THE IMAGES SHOWING ABOUT 14 FOOT MOUND, UM, BUT 10 TO 14 FEET WITH THOSE DENSE PLANTINGS.
UM, DIFFERENT PLANTING TYPOLOGIES THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, UM, TO GET THAT YEAR-ROUND SCREENING, UM, THE 45 FOOT MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT, UM, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED HERE BASED ON WHAT YOU HEARD FROM KEEGAN EARLIER.
UM, AND SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, OF THOSE, UH, WHAT THE VIEWS, UM, ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, ON THE BOTTOM THERE, UH, BEING SORT OF INDIVIDUAL STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK, UM, ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS ALL STARTS TO WORK TOGETHER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO FULLY SCREEN, UM, ANY BUILDINGS THAT HAPPEN THERE.
AND HERE'S A GROUND LEVEL RENDERING OF WHAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.
UM, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY TAKEN FROM, UM, THAT SAME SPOT, JUST A GENERAL EXAMPLE, UM, OF THAT ALONG COS GRAY ROAD.
SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE IMAGE THERE, UM, THAT WOULD BE EXISTING RESIDENCES, THEN THE BERM THAT EXISTS TODAY.
THEN WE HAVE THE, UM, ENTIRE STREET RIGHT OF WAY WITH SIDEWALK STREET TREES, UH, PLANTED MEDIAN, AND THEN THAT NEW BERM, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE IMAGE THERE.
UM, WITH THE BUILDING HIDDEN BEHIND, PROBABLY AGAIN WORTH JUST MENTIONING LIKE THE RENDERING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF WE'RE TRYING TO DO A KIND OF RURAL OR ICONIC LOOK, NOT PLANTING THE MOUNDS IN TURF HELPS THAT, I MEAN, IT'S HELPS THAT RURAL CHARACTER THOUGHT PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF PEOPLE SAY, NO, WE REALLY WANT TURF, YOU CAN DO IT IN TURF.
IT'S, UM, BUT IT, IF YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO GO WITH A, A DIFFERENT CHARACTER, A RURAL CHARACTER, THINKING ABOUT NOT JUST THE, THE STANDARD KIND OF GREEN LAWN GOING UP THE MOUND, UH, BUT THINKING ABOUT THE PLANS THAT THAT HAPPEN THERE I THINK ARE IMPORTANT.
AND THEN ONE MORE EXAMPLE HERE, UM, JUST UP AT THE ROUNDABOUT, UH, THIS IS, UH, WHAT WE'D IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL, UM, ICONIC MOMENTS.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE A GATEWAY MOMENT, UM, AT THE ROUNDABOUT, SO YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE, THE STONE COMING INTO PLAY THERE, DIFFERENT PLANTINGS AT THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT STILL KEEPING THAT MOUNTING, UM, IN THE BACKGROUND THERE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SITE.
AND IN THIS CASE, IT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, VARIES BETWEEN EIGHT AND 14 FEET IN THIS IMAGE.
UM, GETTING UP AT SORT OF MAX HEIGHT RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER.
UM, BUT THEN THAT 45 FOOT BUILDING BEING BEHIND,
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UM, THAT MOUNT THERE RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT.UM, SO I'M GONNA PASS IT BACK TO GREG, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SHARE TONIGHT.
AND GREG CAN KICK US OFF WITH SOME DISCUSSION TOPICS.
SO, UM, PRETTY SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? I KNEW THAT, I KNEW THAT.
UM, SO ARE WE, ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK? UM, ARE, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY GUIDANCE? AGAIN, NOTHING HAS BEEN, NOT ONLY HAS NOTHING BEEN LOCKED IN, NOTHING'S REALLY BEEN WRITTEN BEYOND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN HERE.
SO NOW IS THE TIME TO PROVIDE DIRECTION OR GUIDANCE.
SO I THINK, ZACH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO FRAME THAT UP ANYMORE? OKAY, SO, UM, COMMISSION, UM, WE'VE HEARD TWO GREAT PRESENTATIONS, THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, FOR BOTH OF THEM.
UM, THIS WOULD BE THE, THE MOMENT IN THE PROCESS HERE.
WOULD WE, WOULD AS A COMMISSION DISCUSS WHAT WE HEARD, OR, I MEAN, ASK QUESTIONS TO THE, TO THE PRESENT PRESENTERS TO CLARIFY ANYTHING.
AND I'D LIKE TO COME BACK THEN TO THESE QUESTIONS AFTER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY.
SO AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION AND I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DEAL WITH BOTH TOPICS TOGETHER.
I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF TRY TO BREAK 'EM APART.
SO, MR. GARVIN, DO YOU WANNA KICK US OFF? YOU'RE AT THE RIGHT END OF THE DIOCESE TONIGHT.
AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO KIND OF YEAH, I'D LIKE TO WRAP IT UP WITH OUR, WITH, YOU KNOW, FINAL DISCUSSION.
LET ME TAKE A LOOK THEN AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'D LIKE TO GET THROUGH BEFORE THEN, I GUESS FOR ZACH.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW FROM MKSK WAS, UH, HOW BUILDABLE AREA IS REDUCED WITH THE 200 FOOT SETBACK.
CAN I FIRST CLARIFY, WAS THAT 28 OF 40 ACRES, UM, THAT WOULD BE LEFT BUILDABLE AFTER A 200 FOOT SETBACK? THAT WAS ONE OF THE SLIDES BASED ON THAT EXAMPLE? YES.
THAT'S, THAT LEFTOVER NUMBER IS AFTER YOU TAKE AWAY THE SETBACK AREA.
AND SO IS THAT KIND OF A STANDARD LOT OR IS THAT A UNIQUE CALCULATION THAT JUST COULD BE THE CASE? MY QUESTION IS JUST BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT WE SAY MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES, UM, 75% MINIMUM, UM, AREA COVERED, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT CALCULATION WOULD BE 65%.
IS THAT ACCURATE TO SAY YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT TO THE 75% MINIMUM? YEAH, I THINK I CAN PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN.
I THINK THIS IS JUST TO SHOW AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS WOULD BE APPLIED.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT A AERIAL OF THESE SITES, THEY, I WOULD SAY MOST OF THEM ARE NOT TYPICAL LIKE THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS MORE TRIANGULAR, BUT STILL THE SAME, THE SAME, UH, SETBACKS AND, AND DIMENSIONS.
WE APPLIED TO BE DETERMINE, TO DETERMINE WHAT THE DEVELOPABLE AREA IS ON THE SITE.
AND SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT 75% MINIMUM COVERAGE OF THE 26 ACRES IN THAT EXAMPLE, OR OF THE 40 ACRES? IT'D BE OF THE 40 ACRES.
SO THAT WOULD BE 65% IS THE MOST YOU COULD POSSIBLY PUT THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S A MINIMUM OF 75% COVERAGE.
CAN I CAN, SORRY, CAN I, DO YOU MIND IF I FOLLOW UP TO YOUR QUESTION? SO THAT MEANS ON A, ON A TWO ACRE SITE, THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPABLE AREA OF, WE'RE SAYING 65% OF TWO ACRES, WHICH IS TWO
OR ONE POINT IS THAT, SO AGAIN, I, I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS GRAPHIC IS REALLY JUST LOOKING AT HOW THE SETBACKS ARE APPLIED TO THIS AND WHAT THAT DOES TO THE DEVELOPABLE ACREAGE.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST INTENDED TO SHOW GRAPHICALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, THE 75% LOT COVERAGE IS ANOTHER ELEMENT, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD BE UP TO A MAXIMUM OF THAT TOTAL ACREAGE, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE FOR A PARCEL.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST INTENDED TO SHOW RIGHT, THAT THE DEVELOPABLE AREA, THE INCREASED SETBACK REDUCES HOW MUCH YOU CAN DEVELOP.
THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS IS JUST TRYING TO SHOW.
YEAH, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT INCREASING THAT SETBACK DOESN'T CAUSE US TO NEED TO ADJUST THE 75% MINIMUM LOCK COVERAGE.
WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WE WRITE THE LANGUAGE AND TEST THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
AND THEN I WANTED TO CLARIFY AS WELL WAS THE, I SAW, UM, PERMITTED HIGH QUALITY MATERIAL THAT, THAT INCLUDED THE FERMENT OR FIBER CEMENT
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AND SO, OKAY.I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS YEAH, AND ALL OF THOSE, WE HAVE NOT, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE PERMANENT MATERIALS.
THOSE ARE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW.
UH, FIRST QUESTION THOUGH, TINA QUESTION FOR YOU, I KNOW THE PLAN EVENTUALLY IS FOR COS GRAY TO BE FOUR LANE DIVIDED BOULEVARD.
IS THAT A, IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT ON THAT? YEAH, UH, TINA WASKOWITZ TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, THANKS.
UM, THAT IS IN THE LONG RANGE VISION.
SO IT'S WITHIN THAT ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN.
CHAPTER SEVEN TALKS ABOUT MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION AND THAT MULTIMODAL THOROUGHFARE PLAN AT THE END OF CHAPTER SEVEN SHOWS THAT, UM, FUTURE STREET TYPOLOGY THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
SO TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, A LANDSCAPE MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE, AND BIKE PED FACILITIES ON BOTH SIDES.
IS THE, IS THE PLAN FOR THAT TO GO WHAT TO FROM 1 61 TO HAYDEN OR FARTHER? FOR THE MAJORITY OF IT, YES.
BUT THERE'S A SMALL PIECE THAT IS CARVED OUT AS MORE OF A VILLAGE CHARACTER THAT WOULD, WOULD JUST STAY ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, UM, CLOSER TO THAT AMBULANCE CENTER.
DO, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN IN THE, THE PLAN THAT WILL OCCUR? SO WE'RE JUST STARTING A STUDY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THOSE STREET ELEMENTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UM, WE ACTUALLY ARE GETTING PROPOSALS IN FOR THAT STUDY NEXT WEEK.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TAKING SOME BABY STEPS, BUT THERE'S NOT A, A YEAR FOR FUNDING OR CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE JUST TAKING THOSE INITIAL STEPS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND THE REASON I ASK IS JUST TRYING TO THINK AHEAD, AND I'M NOT SURE IF, IF IT'S YOU TO ANSWER THIS OR SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER IS, IS PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL RELATIVE TO THE, THE CODE, HOW DOES THAT THEN IMPACT THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE WHATEVER THE BUFFERS DECIDED THAT WE JUST HEARD A PRESENTATION ON THAT? 'CAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT WILL IMPACT A LOT OF THINGS IF, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE EXPANDING THAT HIGHWAY.
I THINK WHAT THEY WERE SHOWING ON THE GRAPHICS JUST A MOMENT AGO IS THAT THAT SETBACK WOULD START AT THAT PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT COMPONENT.
YEAH, I THINK I'M GOOD ON THE TRAFFIC.
SO THIS, THIS IS FOR STAFF IN, IN READING THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN HEARING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, OBVIOUSLY FROM, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL HEARINGS AND THEN THE, THE SURVEY THAT WAS DONE BY THE, THE BALANCE BALANCE TRAY ASSOCIATION, WHICH I, I DID THINK WAS VERY HELPFUL.
IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THEY ALL WANT RESIDENCES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THAT AREA.
WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION ON, UH, ON BALANCE TRAY IN THOSE SURROUNDING HOMES POSITION? SO IT IS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHY WE'RE PURSUING WHAT WE'RE SHOWING TODAY RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL.
WHY IS RESIDENTIAL NOT INCLUDED? IS PART ONE AND TWO, WILL RESIDENTIAL EVER BE UNDER CONSIDERATION? SO IF YOU ALL RECALL BACK IN TWENTY THREE, TWENTY FOUR, UM, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THIS SECTION, UM, THAT WAS GOING ON THAT WAS OCCURRING DURING THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE.
THEY HAD COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, UM, AND THE COMMISSION HAD DETERMINED THAT THEY WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE RESIDENTIAL THERE BECAUSE IT DID NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
SO WHAT WE ARE SHOWING NOW IS INTENDED TO ALIGN WITH WHAT COUNCIL HAD APPROVED WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH IS THAT FLEX INNOVATION.
SO AS IT'S SHOWN, WE DO NOT PLAN ON INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL AS A PERMITTED USE HERE AND PLAN TO, AT LEAST THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO KEEP WITH THAT FLEX INNOVATION WHILE PUTTING THOSE RESTRAINTS, UM, TO TRY AND TRANSITION THIS FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING WHAT DISCUSSIONS HAVE OCCURRED? 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT BETWEEN THE CITY AND RE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PRIMARY OPPONENT HERE.
THE, THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE CITY'S POSITION THAT THERE IS NOT GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL THERE.
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I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AS HAS CITY COUNCIL, UM, WHICH AGAIN, AS SHOWN AS PART OF THEIR MOTION TO TABLE WAS THEIR DESIRE TO STICK WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE PLAN, BUT ALLOW US TO MAKE THESE DRAFT CODE AMENDMENTS TO ALIGN AND TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.SO OUR DIRECTION AT THIS POINT HAS BEEN TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN SHARED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS IN ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT THE PLAN RECOMMENDS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS OUTCOME, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD ENTAIL.
I DUNNO IF THAT, SO THEN FOR, FOR OUR PURPOSES FOR THE EVALUATION, WHEN WE'RE SEEING COMMENTS, SURVEYS, REQUESTS FROM THE, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, THOSE REALLY ESSENTIALLY ARE OUT OF OUR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THE DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
AND MR. DASHER, THIS COMMISSION HAS ALREADY RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL THE ZONING OF THE ID SIX.
SO WE'VE ALREADY GONE DOWN THAT ROAD.
I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, BECAUSE IT A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THEN IT SEEMS MISGUIDED ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE, THE PURPOSE IS, AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET ON THE RECORD FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, THAT'S FAIR THAT I JUST, THAT THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS EVENING'S MEETING IS TO COLLECT FEEDBACK ON THE ID SIX ROADMAP TO COLLECT FEEDBACK ON THE BUFFER SURVEY, THE THINGS THAT, THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PRESENTED THIS EVENING, RIGHT? THE RECOMMENDATION FOR REZONING OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE NATURE OF THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN AND THE USES THAT IT CALLS FOR, THIS COMMISSION HAS ALREADY CONSIDERED THAT.
AND SO THAT IS IN COUNCIL'S COURT.
I KNOW I REITERATED THAT I THINK BACK IN FEBRUARY, 2025, AND I'M JUST, JUST MAKING SURE AGAIN.
AND MR. DESLER, THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE ARE, HAVE GONE BACK OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, SO THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS AND, AND THINGS HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD.
SO SOME OF THE OLDER COMMENTS MAYBE AREN'T AS RELEVANT ANYMORE BECAUSE RIGHT.
BUT THERE'S A, THIS IS SOME OF THE NEW COMMENTS, RIGHT? THE, THE SURVEY WAS NEW AND THERE'S SOME JUST FROM SOME LAST WEEK.
YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S HAPPENED OVER A SERIES OF YEARS.
DOES THE CITY FEEL SATISFIED WITH THE LAND THAT'S BEEN PURCHASED FOR THE SPORT PARK COMPONENT? UH, THAT I KNOW IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO SPORTS OHIO AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE'S DEVELOPMENT FOR, FOR DARI.
WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A STUDY WITH THAT WORK AND CHRIS CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS THAT'S ONE OF HIS PROJECTS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHRISTOPHER WILL, SENIOR PLANNER.
UM, AS ZACH MENTIONED, I AND OTHER STAFF AND A GROUP OF CONSULTANTS HAVE BEEN WORKING, UM, DIRECTLY WITH CITY COUNCIL ON A VISIONING PROCESS, UM, TO HELP OUTLINE A FRAMEWORK FOR FUTURE, UM, ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR VISION FOR THIS PREMIER ATHLETIC AND RECREATION CAMPUS, WHICH IS DARI AND SPORTS OHIO.
UM, PART OF THAT WAS DWELLING UPON THE, UM, ADOPTED PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS OTHER KIND OF MARKET STUDIES DONE FOR WHAT THE CITY NEEDS AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, UM, FROM A RECREATION STANDPOINT AS WELL AS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOW TO GET TOURNAMENTS AND, AND OTHER PIECES LIKE THAT FOR RECREATION.
UM, AND DEVELOPED A PROGRAM OF SPORTS AND RECREATION, UM, THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE.
THROUGH THAT, IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT CONCEPTUALLY THE CITY HAS ENOUGH PROPERTY WITHIN THE DARI SPORTS OHIO, UM, WHAT WE CALL THE NORTH JEWETT, WHICH IS BETWEEN COS GRAY ROAD AND DARI FIELDS TO ACCOMPLISH, UM, OR ACHIEVE THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
UH, AND THE COMMISSION, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, REBECCA CALL WAS ON THE STRING COMMITTEE FOR THE SPORTS OHIO OR, UM, STRING COMMITTEE.
AND WITH HER DEPARTURE, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SERVE ON IT.
SO I HAVE BEEN AT ONE MEETING SO FAR, SO I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP, BUT, UH, WE ARE REPRESENTED ON THAT IN THAT PROCESS.
AND SO IF YOU WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN UPDATE YOU ON WHAT I KNOW.
NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO, I THINK, UM, I, AGAIN, GOING OVER SOME, SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UH, JUST RECONCILING IF THE CITY WAS SATISFIED WITH THE LAND THEY ALREADY HAVE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE.
UM, HAVE, HAS THE CITY RECEIVED
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ANY FEEDBACK FROM, OR CONCERNS FROM THE OWNERS OF THE CURRENT PROPERTIES IN THAT ID SIX FEELING RESTRICTED ABOUT ABILITY TO SELL, ABOUT ABILITY TO SELL OR WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING WITH A BUYER WITH SOME KIND OF USE THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE CURRENT PLAN IS, BUT THE FORMER PLAN, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF, IF THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE HAVE OCCURRED.MR. DEEL, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR REMIT IN THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
IT'S ISSUES OF REAL ESTATE AND, AND O OTHER THINGS.
I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS IT ON THE TOPIC AT HAND.
THAT, IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION? WE'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS, I GUESS, FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THEY DON'T WANT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF HAS HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT OWNERS LIKE SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO SELL TO X, BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS AND IT'S IN LIMBO.
WELL, THE CITY STAFF HAS CERTAINLY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, JUST AS THEY'VE HAD ENGAGEMENT WITH NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO BOTH OF THOSE, UM, INTERESTS ARE TRYING TO BE BALANCED THROUGH THIS ROADMAP THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ALL IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN SUGGESTS OR NOT SUGGEST, BUT RECOMMENDS AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND A SUMMARY OF THOSE COMMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT THAT WHEN ZACH WAS SHARING WHAT THE STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK IS, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS SAYING.
WE'VE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH THE VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS TO SHARE THE ROADMAP AND ASK THOSE EXACT QUESTIONS OF IF, IF THIS IS WHAT IS PROPOSED, AGAIN, RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
CAN YOU DEVELOP THIS WITH THOSE FLEX INNOVATION USES? AGAIN, IT'S, IT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT THEY WOULD'VE BEEN PERMITTED UNDER ID TWO, BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN GOOD FEEDBACK, OKAY.
AND WE HAVE MADE CHANGES TO THAT, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE ADDRESSED THE RESIDENT COMMENTS, RIGHT? USING ID TWO AS THE BASE, WE'VE MADE THOSE CHANGES TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, RIGHT? SO THE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING PIECE OF THAT AND THE CONTRACT SERVICES, THOSE WERE BOTH, UM, TO PICK OUT A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, VERY SPECIFIC, UM, THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SETBACK AND THE BUFFERING.
UM, HONESTLY, THAT, THAT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IF YOU'RE THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS THAT GRAPHIC WAS SHOWN THAT MR. GARVIN, UM, AND MR. CHINOOK WERE RAISING RIGHT, THAT DOES REDUCE THE DEVELOPABILITY OF A PROPERTY AND THERE'S COST TO THAT AS WELL, BUT THEY DO UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE, RIGHT? AND THEY WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND, AND RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR THAT INVESTMENT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THAT GETS IMPLEMENTED.
SO THAT'S BEEN ALL PART OF THIS CONVERSATION FOR SURE.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL, JENNY.
I APPRECIATE THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS, THAT'S, I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS, THIS, THIS MIGHT BE FOR GREG ACTUALLY.
UM, WHEN IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCES AROUND OTHER, UH, COMMUNITIES WHEN FACED WITH, WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DYNAMICS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
WE HAVE, THERE'S COMPETING INTERESTS BETWEEN CITY, CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS.
IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT OUR COMMISSION SHOULD FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, WITH BALANCING SOME OF THESE, THESE FACTORS OF ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS COMPARED TO POTENTIAL PURCHASERS TO THE SELLERS OF THE PROPERTY AT ISSUE, AND THEN THE CITY'S ENVISION PLAN, OBVIOUSLY, WHICH, WHICH WE'RE UNDER THE GUISE OF.
ARE YOU ASKING IF THERE'S ANYTHING KIND OF BEYOND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HERE? YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT IS THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT ALSO, DO CERTAIN FACTORS IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WEIGH MORE HEAVILY THAN OTHERS, OR ARE THERE, IS IT A, IS IT AN EQUAL BALANCE OF ALL OF THEM AND WE'RE NAVIGATING THIS, RIGHT, TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION, BEST RECOMMENDATION, I THINK, I THINK THAT LADDER IS PROBABLY, IS CLOSE TO THE TRUTH.
THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING, AND AGAIN, IS, IS, UM, CHARACTERISTIC OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
YOU'RE FOLLOWING AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS.
UH, THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS,
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PUBLIC OUTREACH, WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS, TRYING TO BALANCE ALL OF THOSE INTERESTS, UM, HAS, HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE.AND, AND I HOPE THE COMMISSION APPRECIATES THE EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS THAT WERE MADE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE, THE, UM, THE SCREENING STUDY.
I HONESTLY, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THIS KIND OF, IN THIS KIND OF CONTEXT.
AGAIN, NORMALLY WHAT WE WOULD BE ASKED TO DO IS TO COME UP WITH A GOOD SCREENING REGULATION IN THIS, UM, BUT THE, THE WAY THAT THEY APPROACH THAT IN TERMS OF NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, MECHANICALLY X NUMBER OF TREES PER LINEAL FEET KIND OF THING, BUT TO, TO DO THAT LEVEL IS EXTRAORDINARY.
AND I THINK I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION EXCEPT TO SAY THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE HARD WORK OF LISTENING AND PROCESSING IT AND DOING THE BEST THAT YOU CAN TO BALANCE IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO WITH THIS.
MR. ALEXANDER, I'M GONNA GET IN THE WEEDS JUST A LITTLE BIT, ZACH.
UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT, THE ROADMAP YOU MENTION, UH, REVISIONS TO DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS IN THOSE SECTIONS, WILL THOSE BE REVISIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO EACH SITE AND BUILDING OWNER AS OPPOSED TO, UM, BUFFERS AND, AND MOST OF THE REVISIONS ARE TO, IF THERE'S TEXT THAT JUST SAYS REVISIONS, MOST OF THE TIME WHAT IT'S ADDRESSING IS JUST ADDING THE ZONING DISTRICT TO THE CODE SO THAT IT APPLIES, THOSE REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO THE DISTRICT.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ADDING JUST THE DISTRICT.
BUT SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT CHANGING.
THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY CROSS REFERENCES.
THEY WOULD BE CROSS REFERENCES.
SO, SO, BECAUSE WE HEARD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, WELL, THERE'LL BE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS ON A LOT COMPARED TO SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUFFERING.
SO AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU'RE JUST GONNA REFER TO EARLIER REQUIREMENTS FOR LOT BUFFERING AND SITE CONDITIONS.
CORRECT? LIKE, UM, ONSITE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE THE SAME AS IT WOULD BE ELSEWHERE IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, HOW DO YOU, A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING BALANCE RATES, PUD INFORMATION, MOST RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, THE HEIGHT CAP IS 35 FEET.
IS THAT, IS THAT PRETTY ACCURATE GENERALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY? YES.
SO WE'RE ONLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDINGS, IT MAY ONLY BE 10 FEET TALLER THAN MM-HMM
THEN, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND CONTRACT SERVICES, THE DOCUMENT SAYS POTENTIALLY NO OUTDOOR STORAGE, NO OUTDOOR USE.
WHERE DO CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS FIT IN THAT IF, IF A CONTRACTOR WANTS TO STORE CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS, THEY HAVE A SERIES OF PANEL TRUCKS, UM, WHERE DOES THAT FIT? CURRENTLY WE'D BE SHOWING IT AS THOSE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE STORED ON SITE.
THAT IS HOW WE'RE CURRENTLY ADDRESSING THAT.
SO EVEN, EVEN PARKING YOUR COMPANY'S PANEL TRUCKS, IF THEY'RE COMPANY VEHICLES, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN, I'D SAY EQUIPMENT THAT IS BEING STORED OUTSIDE ON THE PREMISE.
SO I THINK WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO DEFINITELY DISTINGUISH AS WE GET TO THE CODE SECTION.
THEN I HAVE A QUESTION, AND THIS I THINK IS PROBABLY MORE FOR THE LANDSCAPE CONSULTANTS.
YOU MENTIONED YOUR APPROACH TO BUFFERING AND LANDSCAPE IS A DISTRICT-WIDE APPROACH, AND, AND YOUR ONE GRAPHIC SHOWS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT WHERE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED ICONIC MOMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO DO YOU SEE THE LANDSCAPE IS GIVING THIS DISTRICT A DISTINCT CHARACTER? 'CAUSE CLEARLY COSGRAVE IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT IF WE IMPLEMENT THAT.
DO YOU SEE YOUR PROPOSAL ACTUALLY UNIFYING THE DISTRICT? YES, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE INTENT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR PLANTING PALATE, SIMILAR APPROACH TO, UM, THAT CHARACTER WITHIN THE, THE PUBLIC REALM.
THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.
UM, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT NOISE.
UM, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF THOUGHT ABOUT THINKING ABOUT WHEN TRUCKS CAN COME AND GO IF IT'S EARLY IN THE MORNING OR, UH, LATE AT NIGHT? IS THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION? THINKING ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, THE GOAL IS TO MINIMIZE ANY OF THESE NUISANCE, UM, THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE WITH ANY USE ON THE SITE.
SO I THINK THAD WANTS TO, YOU WANNA CHIME IN ON THIS? I, I WAS ALSO GOING TO NOTE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS COME THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT COUNCIL ASKED STAFF
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IN 2025, AND EVEN BEFORE 2025 TO TAKE A LOOK AT MM-HMMVEHICULAR NOISE, BOTH FROM OPERATION, FROM, UH, SOUND AMPLIFICATION EQUIPMENT AND, UM, FROM LAND USES AS WELL MM-HMM
AND SO, UM, COUNCIL HAS HAD A FIRST READING OF LEGISLATION ADDRESSING NOISE GENERALLY ACROSS THE CITY, UM, JUST AT THEIR MEETING ON THIS PAST TUESDAY.
AND SO WHILE THAT STILL HAS ANOTHER, AT LEAST ANOTHER READING TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT IT, THAT IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE VEHICULAR OPERATION NOISE.
AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD APPLY TO ANY PROPERTIES IN THE ID SIX.
AND THEN OF COURSE, AS, AS ZACH WAS SAYING, THE SETBACKS, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS ARE DESIGNED AS WELL TO MINIMIZE, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR INTERACTION OF TRAFFIC FROM THESE USES WITH THE RESIDENCES, TRYING TO KEEP THEM, GET THEM OFF THE ROAD AND KEEP THEM BACK AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND, AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING TO THAT, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE 200 FOOT SETBACK THAT'S BEING PROPOSED ON COS GRAY, NOTHING CAN HAPPEN WITHIN THAT.
THERE WOULD BE NO VEHICULAR PARKING OR CIRCULATION OR TRAFFIC OR TRUCKS OR ANYTHING.
SO ANY, ANYTHING WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS AWAY FROM BALANCE TREE.
I HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS HERE, MAKING SURE I'M ASKING 'EM.
IN THE SAME TIME, DOES INDUSTRY, UH, ONCE THEY BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEN, UM, AFTER TIME, UM, THEY ARE HAVING ECONOMIC, IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP.
UH, DO WE EVER HAVE, 'CAUSE HOAS WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY AND SAY, COULD YOU HELP US WITH THIS? IN THE PAST, WITH THE CITY, HAS ANY INDUSTRY COME BACK AND SAID, UH, SOME OF THESE MOUNDS AND THINGS OF THIS, IT'S ALL DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP WITH OR SO FORTH LIKE THAT, OR FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AFTER TIME? YEAH.
UM, THAT WOULD BE WHERE A CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES IN AND THEY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT ARE ENACTING A LOT OF THOSE USUALLY UNDER NUISANCE REQUIREMENTS.
SO ABSOLUTELY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ON A DAILY WE'RE CONSIDERING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT IT'D BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO CHANGE THAT RULE, LIKE THE RULE, THE RULES FOR THE, LIKE THE REQUIREMENTS? YEAH.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE, MY ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT THE INDUSTRY THAT BOUGHT THIS YEAH.
THIS, THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO TAKE CARE OF IT MM-HMM
UM, AND THEN I JUST WANNA ENSURE THAT THEN THEY WOULD TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON THE WHOLE ENTIRE TIME MM-HMM
AND THAT, UM, THEY WOULDN'T FEEL LIKE, OH, THIS IS GETTING SOMETHING, A BURDEN, PLUS I DON'T EVEN WANNA DO IT ANYMORE.
SO I'M GOING TO COME TO THE CITY AND SAY, PLEASE TAKE THIS BURDEN OVER FOR US.
MAYBE LIKE SOME HOAS HAVE DONE.
AND I'M JUST ASKING THAT, IS THIS ANYTHING THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT HASN'T HAPPENED, UH, FOR YOU ALL AND FOR THE CITY, BUT IF IT DOES, IS THAT, UH, ANY WORRY WHEN YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING SUCH A, UH, YOU KNOW, A LARGE LANDSCAPING? UM, IT, IT TYPICALLY WOULD NOT BE.
AND, AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF SOMETHING LIKE THE ID CODES AND THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT IS THAT THOSE RULES ARE SPELLED OUT IN ADVANCE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NEGOTIATED THROUGH A PROCESS, UM, LIKE PUD.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE TABLE WITH THE ID CODE, THE ID SIX CODE IN PLACE, EVENTUALLY THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR THAT.
THEY'VE HAD TIME TO CONSIDER THAT.
AND SO, UM, WHILE PEOPLE MAY AT SOME TIME MAKE A REQUEST OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT PEOPLE ASK TO DO.
UM, I FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY WOULD FIND IT COMPELLING AND THEY WOULD HAVE ONGOING PROPERTY MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS, WHICH COULD BE ENFORCEABLE THROUGH CRIMINAL CITATION, THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL COURT, THROUGH INJUNCTIVE ACTION, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, HEAVY FINES EVEN TO FORCE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO THOSE CAN CARRY CONSEQUENCES.
I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT DORY FIELDS.
UH, IS THERE A TREE LINE OVER THERE BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, PROPERTIES AS, AND UH, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAD IT MAYBE THINKING ABOUT IT, TRADITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND, UM, JUST WITH SAFETY OR, YOU KNOW, KIDS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
WOULD THAT BE BROUGHT IN CONSIDERATION? I WILL SAY WITH THE, THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT YOU'RE SHOWING, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, I'M ASSUMING YOU WERE DISCUSSING THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
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WE ARE VERY DRAFTY, UM, SO WE HAVE NOT SET TO WHERE EXACTLY THESE ARE GONNA BE.THIS IS JUST TO SHOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AT A GLOBAL, UM, SCALE AND NOT TRYING TO FOCUS PRIMARILY ON ONE AREA FOR ID SIX WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THIS FITS TOGETHER.
SO COULD THESE CHANGE? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, BUT I, WE'RE IN, WE'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT CRITERIA WE WANT TO USE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENT CONSISTENCY IN HOW WE'RE APPLYING THESE REQUIREMENTS ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALSO WITH THE, UM, DESIGN, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, THE MOUNDS COULD BE ALSO USED BY THE PUBLIC THAT A NEIGHBOR COME OVER AND, UH, YOU WERE DESCRIBING, YOU KNOW, TWO MOUNDS KIND OF COMING TOGETHER.
WOULD THERE BE A SPOT IN BETWEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A PLAYGROUND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE IN THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, ART AND SO FORTH.
IS THAT HOW I SHOULD KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT? THAT IT'S A PLACE THAT, UM, THAT NEIGHBORS WOULD GO ACROSS THE STREET AND UH, COULD CLIMB IT OR WALK, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT? I THINK GO, I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO THE ANSWER'S PROBABLY NOT UNLESS THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
ONLY ISSUE THERE IS THEN YOU GET MAINTENANCE AND LIABILITY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, A CITY'S PROBABLY NOT AS INTERESTED IN IT, BUT THERE COULD BE, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL LOCATION, I THINK THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED
I MEAN, IT, IT, FOR, FOR PURPOSES OF THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, UH, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO BUFFER THE USES ON THE, WHAT I'LL CALL THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, FROM THE RESIDENCES TO THE EAST OF COS GRAY ROAD, AND NOT TO CREATE, UM, CONDITIONS THAT MIGHT ATTRACT PEOPLE CROSSING COS GRAY ROAD OR, OR INTERACTING MORE WITH WHAT THOSE USES WOULD BE.
UM, I HAVE A FEW FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, I THINK TO SOME, SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.
UM, ONE, ONE QUESTION IS MORE IN THE DETAILS OF FOLLOW UP, KINDA WHAT GARY WAS SAYING, UM, FOR STAFF, I GUESS OUR, WHEN WE SAY SCREENING ACCESSORY USES AND, AND THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CONSULTANT, I THINK ONE OF THE ACCESSORY USES WAS TEMPORARY STORAGE FOR MANUFACTURING OR TRAILERS SCREENING THOSE USES.
IS IS IN THE BIGGER, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY PART OF THIS, RIGHT? THE SCREENING OF THE ACCESSORY USES IN TERMS OF FENCING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? CORRECT.
YEAH, THAT IS ALREADY COVERED WITHIN OUR CODE.
AND THEN MACRO QUESTION FOR THE CONSULTANT
IN YOUR OPINION, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, I'D LOVE TO HEAR IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF PRECEDENT OR ANY OTHER EMULATORS OUTSIDE OF CITY OF DUBLIN THAT'S DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND ARE WE BEING TOO RE ARE, ARE WE, DO WE MOVE THE NEEDLE TOO FAR TO BE TOO RESTRICTIVE TO DEVELOPMENT BY THIS? AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING I'M AGAINST IT, I'M JUST SAYING IN YOUR OPINION, A 200 FOOT SETBACK AND ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ROAD IS EXPANDED, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE CUTTING PRETTY, PRETTY DEEP INTO THIS DEVELOPABLE AREA.
WHAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON, ARE WE, ARE WE, DID WE, DID WE, DID WE GO TOO FAR WITH THIS? UH, SPECIFICALLY THE 200 FOOT SETBACK IS ROBUST, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE WORKED ON A SIMILAR PROJECT AND THERE WERE MORE LIKE IN THE 150 FOOT SETBACK IN A, IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.
UM, BUT REMEMBER THAT 200 FOOT SETBACK IS ACTUALLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IT'S, IT, IT IS CITY POLICY RIGHT NOW.
AND I KNOW THAT WENT THROUGH A LOT OF CONSIDERATION.
THAT IS PART OF THE AREA PLAN, WHICH IS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, IT IS, IT IS ROBUST, BUT FOR THIS SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY LITERALLY COMING UP TO AND MEETING, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE.
SORRY, ALONG THE SAME LINES, THE MOUNDING AND THE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING.
AGAIN, FEEL THAT THAT'S A REASONABLE YES.
I, I'LL ADD TOO, I MEAN, AS A, AS A LOCAL EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW ALBANY HAS IMPLEMENTED, UM, VERSIONS OF THIS, UM, AROUND DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS.
THEY'VE SORT OF CHANGED STRATEGIES OVER TIME, UM, HOW THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED IT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE A, A, YOU KNOW, VERY LOCAL EXAMPLE TO, UM, CHECKOUT, DON'T REALLY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT STILL MAKING THIS
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AN ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR POTENTIAL BUSINESSES.YEAH, I THINK FROM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE OPTIONS.
UM, NOT NECESSARILY OPTIONS, BUT DIVERSITY OF APPROACHES, UM, BASED ON ROADWAY, TYPOLOGIES, PROPERTY SIZES, UM, AND HOW WE WANNA APPROACH THAT, UM, IN THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS SO THAT WE DO MAINTAIN THAT FLEXIBILITY, UM, AND ATTRACTIVENESS.
UM, HOPEFULLY I JUST HAVE A COUPLE FOLLOW UP AS WELL IN THE ROADMAP, SPECIFICALLY, 1 53 0.039
I GET SPECIFIC A 2D AND A TWO E.
UH, TALK ABOUT SIDE PAVEMENT SETBACKS INCLUDES OPEN STORAGE SERVICE AND LOADING AREAS.
I THOUGHT THAT STORAGE AND SERVICE WE'RE ALL GONNA BE INSIDE STRUCTURES.
UM, THERE AGAIN, THIS IS A CARRYOVER REQUIREMENT FROM THE REST OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO.
SO MAYBE JUST A NOTE FOR DRAFTING.
UM, COULD USAC OR SOMEBODY, UM, ADDRESS THE RESIDENT'S CONCERNS ABOUT ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, SPECIFICALLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT THEY GET OUT OF YEAH.
AS IT'S, AS IT'S STATED, STATED IN THE, IN THE ROADMAP.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS INTENT, SO WE WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS AND REFINE IT MORE, BUT THE INTENT IS TO PUT, USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT ARE GOING TO CONTROL, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT A, A SITE COULD HAVE.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE, AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO WITH THAT AND, AND WHAT THOSE CONTROLS ARE GOING TO BE.
BUT THAT IS AT THE FRONT OF OUR MIND AS WE'RE CREATING THESE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE THE, THE RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU CORRECT.
UM, THE LANDSCAPING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S FOR THE EXPERTS TO ADDRESS OR THE CITY, UM, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A TREE SIZE MINIMUM SO THAT IT STARTS OUT PROTECTIVE? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YET.
UM, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.
TYLER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THAT IN THE PAST WITH OTHER PROJECTS.
YEAH, I MEAN, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
THAT WAS, THAT'S A DECISION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, TO BE MADE, UM, WHEN WE GOT TO THAT, THAT LEVEL.
'CAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, A DESIRED AMOUNT OF SCREENING ACHIEVED, UH, ESSENTIALLY DAY ONE, RIGHT.
OTHERWISE WE'RE WAITING 20 YEARS FOR KIDS TO GROW.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S, WE, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT SORT OF POINT YET, BUT THAT IS, UM, DEFINITELY, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DECIDED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE DRAWINGS THAT YOU HAVE SHOWING THE, THE PEOPLE AT THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEIR VISION IS BLOCKED BY FULL GROWN TREES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A CONSIDERATION.
UM, I'M GOING TO ROUND OUT OUR, UH, COMMENTS HERE WITH A COUPLE, UH, ONE, UM, FOR MR. DALE ABOUT, THERE'S A SPECIFIC COMMENT ABOUT NO LOADING DOCKS ALONG COS GRAY OR THAT THAT FRONTAGE, BUT THAT IMPLIES THAT LOADING DOCKS COULD BE ON THE SIDE OR REAR OF THE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? SO IS SIDE ALSO AN IMPORTANT FROM A VISIBILITY STANDPOINT? NOT, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THE, THE NORMAL SCREENING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, I'M, I'M JUST HIGHLIGHTING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT YEAH.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT IT.
YOUR CONCERN IS THAT ESSENTIALLY SOMETHING DOESN'T SNEAK IN BY THE SIDE DOOR, SO TO SPEAK, AND CREATE AN IMPACT WHEN IT WASN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDERED THAT.
AND IF YOU HAD, I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, LOADING DOCK TO LOADING DOCK, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT 120 200 FEET OF SPACE THAT THEN IS OPEN
SO IS THERE A, IS THERE THEN ANOTHER LAYER OF SCREENING THAT RIGHT.
PREVENTS ANY KIND OF VIEWS FROM COSWAY? WE'LL MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY ABOUT LOADING BAYS AND SERVICE AREAS HAVE TO BE SCREENED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, UM, FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OR, OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THAT'S ALREADY COVERED, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT.
AGAIN, JUST HIGHLIGHTING THAT.
AND THEN, UM, A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUFFER STUDY.
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THAT THIS, THE, THE EDGE ALONG THE ROAD COULD BE USED FOR PASSIVE RECREATION.SO I, I FLAG THAT AS, IS IT RECREATION
I MEAN, ASHERTON IS A REALLY INTERESTING EXAMPLE WHERE IT ACTUALLY IS A, A PARK.
AND SO I GUESS I, I GO BACK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONING OF THE COMMISSION OF, UM, WHAT IS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THAT SPACE IS CERTAINLY IF YOU WANNA KEEP PEOPLE OUT, YOU HAVE TO FENCE IT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE, THE GOAL.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD START TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT LED ME TO THE QUESTION OF IMPLEMENTATION.
HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT THAT BEAUTIFUL, UH, BERM AND LANDSCAPING INCREMENTALLY AND KEEP IT COHESIVE? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT'S AN ELEMENT THAT SHOULD BE ALMOST LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE UPFRONT, WHICH THEN SETS THE TONE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS BEHIND IT.
SO I I, I'M NOT SURE THAT IS SOLVED YET.
BUT WE'VE HAD THOSE EXACT SAME CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE WOULD WANT THIS TO, YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT PIECEMEALED BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF DEFEATING THE PURPOSE.
UM, SO WE'VE HAD THAT EXACT CONVERSATION.
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT.
SO I'M, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT, UH, EVOLVES.
UM, OH, AND AGAIN, THE, THE BUFFER STUDY IS FOR THE WHOLE WID, RIGHT? YOU'RE START, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY TAKING ON THE WHOLE THING.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT WE'RE FOCUSING ON REALLY THE ID SIX, BUT, UM, THE WID NOW IS, HAS A CURRENT ZONING TO IT.
IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH REZONING AND THE LAND, THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN, UM, AROUND THE OU CAMPUS DESIGNATES IT AS MIXED USE CENTER.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A DIFFERENT STREET CHARACTER IN A, IN A NEW LAND USE THAT'S MIXED USE CENTER VERSUS ONES THAT ARE INDUSTRIAL? AND I JUST, I'M NOT SURE I SAW THAT IN THE DOCUMENTS YET OF ANY, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TREATING EVERYTHING THE SAME WAY AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT LAND USE THAT THAT MIGHT BE.
UM, I THINK SOME OF THOSE AREAS WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS.
UM, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'VE CONTEMPLATED.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO OUT HERE IS CONSISTENT KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE SOME REALLY UNIQUE AREAS THAT MAY HAVE THEIR OWN TYPES OF STANDARDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT, TO THAT QUESTION.
AGAIN, THE KIND OF GENERAL APPROACH TO ENHANCE BUS BUFFER TRADITIONAL, UM, AND THOSE ICONIC MOMENTS, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE OU CAMPUS IN ANY MIXED USE AREA THAT MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A, A DIFFERENT FEEL THAT ALSO IS EXTENDED TO, UM, SPORTS OHIO AND DARI TOO WAS WE DON'T NEED TO BE MOUNDING.
SO THERE'S THOSE KIND OF NUANCES OR WRINKLES OR THOSE SPECIAL PLACES THAT I THINK WE'LL ALSO WORK IN AS WE WORK TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION, UM, IN THE FUTURE.
AND, UH, CAN I THROW IN TWO THE, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION OR EARLIER POINT AS WELL, THAT THAT WAS WHERE SOME, THAT ONE NOTE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT RECREATIONAL USE WITHIN THIS AREA CAME FROM.
AND THERE, THERE MAY BE AREAS LIKE THAT WHERE IT DOES MAKE SENSE, UM, LIKE DARRY FIELDS OR, OR, OR OTHER AREAS, UM, WHERE THAT COULD HAPPEN.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO COVER A LOT OF GROUND, UM, IN, IN, IN THIS STUDY, ESSENTIALLY.
AND, AND ONE MORE KIND OF DETAIL QUESTION.
UM, I'M, I'M REALLY INTRIGUED BY THIS, THE, THIS USE OF PLANT MATERIAL BETWEEN EVERGREEN AND DECIDUOUS AND THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF EVERGREENS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE MOUND AND DECIDUOUS ON THE FRONT.
BUT YET YOU HAVE, I THINK YOU'RE REALLY PROMOTING THIS VERY CURVILINEAR BERM, AND I HEARD THE WORD, UH, DRIFTS OF LANDSCAPE.
AND SO I, I WONDERED IF YOU CONSIDERED THAT THE DRIFTS MIGHT BE A MIX AS IT KIND OF MOVES THROUGH THE BERM OF IT COULD BE EVERGREEN AND, AND DECISION.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE JUST ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE HEDGE ROW.
LIKE YOU'VE GOT THIS STRONG EDGE AND STRONG, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT NEEDS SOMETHING THAT'S SOFTER.
AND, AND I THINK YOU HAD SOME GOOD IMAGERY IN THE, IN THE DECK THAT EVEN SHOWED EXISTING HEDGEROWS WITH FLOWERING TREES AND DECIDUOUS AND EVERGREEN.
SO I, I GUESS I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE TONIGHT.
UM, I WANT TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN GIVEN ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CITY.
AND MOST OF US, I BELIEVE ALL OF US HAVE REVIEWED IT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE INTENT.
AND YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE'RE, WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE LANGUAGE AROUND THE CODE AND WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE BUFFER AND,
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AND SETBACK STUDY.AND, AND MAYBE THAT IS THINGS YOU HAVEN'T COMMENTED ON BEFORE.
SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TONIGHT TO HEAR MAYBE SOME SPECIFIC COMMENTS AROUND THE, THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT.
BUT I'M GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR NOW TO THE PUBLIC.
SO WHO I WOULD LIKE TO START FIRST, COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE.
DO WE NEED, SIR, ARE YOU OKAY? WE COULD PROBABLY BRING A MICROPHONE TO YOU.
AND SIR, COULD YOU TURN ON THE MICROPHONE? OKAY, SORRY.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS TONIGHT.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT, I'LL CALL IT.
I THINK I MISSED THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS.
IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF OF COOPERATE WITH THE COMMENTS AND THE CONCERNS OF THE BALANCE RATE PEOPLE AND ALSO THE PEOPLE LIVING ON CHAR ROAD.
MY NEXT QUESTION WILL BE, COULD YOU PUT UP A DRAWING SHOWING THE WEST INNER DISTRICT, I'M SETTING BACK THAT.
CAN YOU POINT OUT ONE, WE, LET'S DO THE TOP.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TOO THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE ON THE MIC SO THAT THEY CAN BE RECORDED FOR THE MINUTES.
IF I'M STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF 1 61 JUST SOUTH OF WHAT THEY CALL DUBLIN MARINE STRIP CENTER.
I'M STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, I'M LOOKING SOUTH OF THE ROAD.
WHAT ROAD IS BY THE LEFT ON YOUR DRAWING? THE ROAD THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE YELLOW LINE IS SHIRE RINGS ROAD.
IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? CORRECT.
SO 1 61 WOULD BE FURTHER NORTH, THE RED LINE.
THE RED LINE OUTLINES THE, THE SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND IT'S BOUND BY SHIRE RINGS ROAD, WHICH YOU CAN SEE LABELED AT THE TOP.
AND THEN COS GRAY ROAD, OKAY, WHERE IS HOARD ROAD? HOARD ROAD WOULD BE, IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR, IT'S, THIS IS HOCHER ROAD.
THAT'S WHERE I GOT CONFUSED AND I WAS, HAD MY QUESTIONS.
THAT DRAWING IS REVERSED CAUSE GRACE IS TO THE LEFT, HOCHER IS TO THE RIGHT IF YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH.
CORRECT? PARDON ME? IF YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH LIKE YOU WERE DESCRIBING.
IF I'M LOOKING SOUTH, IF I LOOK TO MY LEFT, THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF DUBLIN GREEN, WHICH IS CAUSEWAY ROAD.
SO IF I CAN HELP DUBLIN GREEN IS UP WHERE MY CURSOR'S AT UP HERE.
SO IT'S I WHERE IS WHERE IT, YEAH.
I KNOW NOW COSWAY IS TO MY LEFT, LOOKING SOUTH TO MY RIGHT.
THE MAP IS REVERSED SITTING BACK IN THE BACK.
AM I WRONG? IF YOU TURN THE MAP UPSIDE DOWN, IT'S PERFECT.
PARDON ME? IF YOU TURN THE MAP UPSIDE DOWN, IT'S PERFECT.
BUT RIGHT THIS, THIS IS ORIENTED WITH THE NORTH TO THE TOP.
SO AS YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH, COSWAY IS GONNA BE TO YOUR RIGHT AND HOORA TO YOUR LEFT AS YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH.
ANYHOW, IT'S GONNA BE THE OPPOSITE.
SO DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR US TALKING
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ALL ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON? I THINK NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT I SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE MAP OVER HERE.YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE CORPORATION.
I THINK I MISSED THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS AND EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT, I'M NOT A RESIDENT IN THAT AREA.
I LIVE UP ON KAMAN ROAD NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN.
I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, WHICH COVERS THE WHOLE CITY OF DUBLIN.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME A COUPLE DAYS AGO, WHY ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT IT? HEY, I WATCHED DUBLIN GROW FROM 1977 WHEN I STARTED WORKING UP HERE TO WHERE IT IS TODAY.
IT WAS A LITTLE VILLAGE, LESS THAN 3000 PEOPLE WHEN I STARTED WORKING IN 1977.
AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE COOPERATION AND LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA BE INVOLVED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE NEXT PERSON UP AND I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE DO HAVE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT.
THERE IS THE RED BUTTON ON THE CLOCK,
AND TURN THE MICROPHONE ON, MA'AM.
I LIVE AT 5 6 4 2 TY CASTLE LOOP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU ON THE COMMISSION.
ALSO, THANK YOU TO MCLAREN, SORRY MCBRIDE.
DALE CLARIN FOR COMING AS LONG AS WELL AS MKSK.
Y'ALL HAVE PRESENTED A LOT OF INFORMATION TONIGHT.
THE WESTERN INNOVATION DISTRICT HAS DRAWN SIGNIFICANT ATTENTION TO THE PRESIDENTS OF BALLANT TRAY AND HURA ROAD.
AND WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY ENGAGING IN THIS DIALOGUE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING, WHICH WAS INITIALLY RURAL TO ID TWO, THREE.
AND NOW THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR ID SIX.
FIRST I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL.
THE APPLICATION ZACH REFERRED TO AS DENIED BY THIS ENTITY IN JUNE, 2024.
BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PART OF THE 2020, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PART OF THE ENVISION DEVLIN PLAN.
IT HAS BEEN RE-PROPOSED TO THE CITY SEVERAL TIMES, MOST RECENTLY LAST MONTH.
IN FACT, THE DEVELOPER STILL WANTS RESIDENTIAL AND THE OWNERS OPPOSED TO REZONING TO ID SIX.
SECOND, THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN CAN BE CHANGED ON PAGE 242 OF THE PLAN.
IT STATES, IT IS IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS NOT A STATIC DOCUMENT.
IF COMMUNITY ATTITUDES CHANGE, THE PLAN SHOULD BE REVISED AND UPDATED ACCORDINGLY.
THIS SENTIMENT WAS ALSO NOTED IN THE RECENT PUBLISHING OF THE COLUMBUS BAR LAWYERS QUARTERLY BY A MEMBER OF OUR PANEL TONIGHT WHEN MR. BOGG STATED THAT MUNICIPALITIES MUST CONSIDER AND BALANCE FISCAL NEEDS WITH COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT, ARCHITECTURE, OPEN SPACE AND SUSTAINABILITY.
THE PARCELS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE ID SIX ZONING WERE CHANGED AT THE 11TH HOUR.
AND WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENT, IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE RESIDENTIAL THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THAT COLLABORATION TAKES TIME, WE STILL HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.
THE SHIFT AWAY FROM A LONG ANTICIPATED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS CATALYZED AND TASKED US TO ADDRESS THIS WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY.
OUR GOAL IS SIMPLE TO ENSURE PLANNING DECISIONS PROTECT THE CHARACTER AND WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE STILL HAVE SOME KEY QUESTIONS THAT REMAIN UNANSWERED.
DO THESE ZONING CHANGES FIT THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER? ARE WE COMFORTABLE PLACING INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING WITH POTENTIAL HEALTH AND SAFETY RISK NEXT TO HOMES IN A PREMIER SPORTS COMPLEX? ALSO, I'M STARTING TO WONDER IF ANYONE HERE HAS BEEN THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND REALLY EXPERIENCE WHAT IT IS THERE AND TO REALLY CONSIDER WHAT THIS DISJOINTED PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
THESE QUESTIONS ARE NOT MEANT TO PERSONALLY CHALLENGE ANYONE.
BUT TO HIGHLIGHT HOW DEEPLY THIS AFFECTS US, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU NOT SUPPORT THE CODE DIRECTION AS PRESENTED TONIGHT WITH THE ROADMAP AND TO MAKE AND TO WORK TOWARD A BALANCE THAT MEETS RESIDENT EXPECTATIONS WHILE ACHIEVING POSITIVE FISCAL OUTCOMES.
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STILL ON? NOPE, IT'S OFF NOW.MY NAME IS JIM MARTINSON AT 7 0 7 4 CORMAC WAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
WOW, WHAT A JOURNEY THIS HAS BEEN SINCE LAST SPRING WHEN WE FOUND OUT THIS WAS COMING UP TO VOTE.
UH, WE'VE MOVED FROM BROAD LOOSELY, UH, DEFINED LANGUAGE TO NOW SHAPING AN ID SIX DISTRICT, AIMING FOR, UH, A BETTER OUTCOME AFTER STRONG COMMUNITY INPUT.
WE'RE HERE FOR STATUS UPDATE ON THE REVISED LANGUAGE, WHICH WE, WHICH WE'VE NOW GONE THROUGH.
UM, THE NEW DRAFT, UH, DOES AND THE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT DO SHOW IMPROVEMENTS.
THANKS, UH, TO THE RESIDENT INPUT.
UH, THAT SAID MORE WORK STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE OR IS NEEDED TO GET IT RIGHT.
I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE EFFORT TO REACH THIS POINT AS A MEMBER OF BALANCER'S P AND Z.
UM, WE'VE HAD PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS WITH YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED ON THE SLIDE IN, UH, DECEMBER AND JANUARY TO RE REVIEW SOME OF THE CODE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE, UH, REVIEW OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, LAST SUMMER I ANALYZED THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF THE TOP 10.
'CAUSE THERE'S OVER 300, UH, UH, COMMENTS.
SO RUN IT THROUGH AI AND IT'LL AND OUTCOMES.
THE TOP 10 FOR ME, TWO THAT I'D HIGHLIGHT IS LESS, UH, LOSS OF NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IN POTENTIAL DECREASE OF PROPERTY VALUES.
WERE A CONCERN THEN AND THEY STILL ARE NOW.
UH, THAT TIES INTO THE BUILDING HEIGHTS.
UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S BEEN REDUCED TO, UH, 45.
THAT'S STILL A CONCERN FROM OUR SIDE OF THE, OF THE STREET.
THAT STILL CAN BE A STARK CONTRAST.
I UNDERSTAND THE BI AND THE LANDSCAPING AND SO FORTH, BUT PERHAPS SOME TAPERING, UH, OF HEIGHTS, UH, AS A LEAD IN TO THAT 25 FOOT OR LESS.
SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
UM, THE MOUNDING, I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION FOR SEASONALITY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIDUOUS TREES.
UH, CENTRAL OHIO OR OHIO IN GENERAL IS KNOWN FOR ITS SKELETAL WINTERS.
UH, WHEN ALL THE LEAVES ARE, ARE DROPPED, UH, DEFINITIONS OF THE LANGUAGE STILL NEED TO BE TIGHTENED UP.
WE STARTED OUT VERY LOOSE AND BROAD AT THE BEGINNING.
IT'S BETTER NOW, BUT IT'S STILL NOT THERE.
THINGS LIKE DATA CENTERS, THE LANGUAGE AROUND THAT GREAT THAT THEY'VE, UH, BEEN REMOVED, BUT THE WAY THE LANGUAGE SITS RIGHT NOW, THERE STILL LEAVES OPENINGS FOR IT TO GROW INTO THAT.
RIGHT? UM, UH, PRINCIPLE VERSUS AUXILIARY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE'RE STILL NOT CERTAIN ON WHAT MEANS, WHAT IN THOSE THAT CONTEXT.
OTHER TOPICS THAT REMAIN, UH, OF, OF MIND FOR RESIDENTS.
BUT QUIET ZONES AROUND THE, UH, UH, RAILROAD CROSSINGS.
THAT IS A LONG, LONG, LONG OVERDUE PROJECT.
WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT WITH STAFF, UH, SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE.
NO, UH, NO CROSS COS GRAY WIDENING EASTWARD, LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION.
BUT I WOULD, UH, MENTION AND REITERATE WHAT WAS JUST SAID AS FAR AS, UH, RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS STILL THE PREDOMINANT, PREDOMINANT PREFERENCE FOR RESIDENTS AS FAR AS THE QUESTION ABOUT LANDSCAPING ME, UH, MAINTENANCE, WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT CITY OR PRIVATE.
WE HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE, COUNCIL NUMEROUS TIMES TURKEY HILL AS AN EXAMPLE AT SHIRE RINGS AND AVERY AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH.
THE LANDSCAPING STAFF KNOWS IT, CANCEL, KNOWS IT, AND SO FORTH.
SO I'LL JUST MENTION THOSE SIX.
AND UH, I'M THE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING GUY, SO I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT A LOT OF THE THINGS, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I HEARD TONIGHT THAT I THINK, UH, THEY'RE BRINGING UP.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME AND I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK'S BEEN DONE BY THE CONSULTANTS AND STAFF TO MOVE US FORWARD, RIGHT FROM WHERE WE WERE.
UH, WE WERE ALL A LITTLE BIT SCARED AND NERVOUS.
UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY WE'RE COMFORTABLE YET, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME PROGRESS.
SO, UM, I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT MY EXPERIENCE IN ADVANCED MANUFACTURING.
I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND I UNDERSTAND THE RISKS AND THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH ADVANCED MANUFACTURING.
WE ARE USING EXOTIC CHEMICALS.
WE'RE USING UNIQUE MATERIALS IN A, IN AN ADVANCED MANUFACTURING SETTING.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CONSTANT CHANGES RAPIDLY
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TO KEEP UP WITH CUSTOMER DEMAND.AND IN ORDER TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE, THE RISK THERE IS NOW WE HAVE TO MANAGE VERY COMPLEX CHANGE POINTS WITHIN A COMPLEX MANUFACTURING SYSTEM.
WE HAD SOME OF THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST PEOPLE I EVER WORKED WITH AT HONDA AND IT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR THEM TO REMAIN DEDICATED AND FOCUS ON THE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GONNA BE ENVIRONMENTALLY COMPLIANT.
WE DID HAVE ISSUES FROM TIME TO TIME.
WE AREN'T PER, WE WEREN'T PERFECT, OKAY? BUT THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN.
SO WHEN LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS, TO BE QUITE FRANK, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON LANDSCAPING.
IT IS IMPORTANT FROM THE RESIDENTS OF BALL ANDRE, BUT WE MISSED OUT ON THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF WHAT'S GOING IN THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES, THE PRODUCTS THEY WERE GONNA USE, THE RAW MATERIALS THAT ARE COMING IN THE DOOR, THE PROCESSES TO PRODUCE THESE THINGS.
WE TALKED ABOUT A SELF-CONTAINED BUILDING, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, WE NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE DISCUSSION ON WHAT CAN BE ALLOWED INTO THAT LAND.
THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING IT, HIDES IT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE IS THE CONTENT OF WHAT'S GOING IN THAT AREA.
WHAT CAN LEAK INTO THE WATER TABLE.
SOMEONE BROUGHT UP A QUESTION ABOUT TRAILERS.
OKAY? WE STORE TRAILERS IN THE PARKING LOT.
WHAT'S IN THOSE TRAILERS? NOBODY KNOWS.
DO THE TRAILERS ALWAYS? ARE THEY WATERPROOF? NO, THEY CAN LEAK.
WHAT'S GONNA PREVENT TOXIC MATERIALS FROM GETTING INTO THE GROUNDWATER? THE FOCUS ISN'T ON LANDSCAPING.
THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS LIKE FOR PEOPLE IN BALANCE TRAY THAT LIVE WEST OF THAT.
WHICH WAY DO THE WINDS COME WEST TO EAST? YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE COMPANY DOING SELF-REPORTING 'CAUSE WE'LL BE THE ONES CALLING SAYING, YEAH, THE AIR SMELLS BAD.
IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE AND IT'S INCONSISTENT WITHIN DUBLIN.
WITH THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, THESE PAF MATERIALS, THEY'RE CALLED FOREVER CHEMICALS.
THAT TO ME DOES NOT ALIGN WITH SUSTAINABILITY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CONSULTANTS TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON WHAT ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IS AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE RISKS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
IT'S NOT EASY AND IT ONLY TAKES ONE PERSON TO MAKE A MISTAKE AND WE'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM.
THE EPA IS DEEPLY AWARE OF THESE CONCERNS, BUT ALSO ALSO EPA REPORTING IS SELF-REPORTING.
SO LET'S TRY TO GET A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT REALLY MATTERS.
THE LANDSCAPING IS WINDOW DRESSING, BUT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON THE CONTENT OF WHAT'S GOING IN THAT LAND.
MY NAME IS TODD HAMMERER, UM, LIVE AT 58 24 HOARD ROAD.
AND I SENT THREE DIFFERENT EMAILS TO ALL OF YOU AND IT SEEMS LIKE DEFINITELY JASON GOT MY EMAILS.
HOPEFULLY THE REST OF YOU DID READ THE PACKETS.
AND, UH, I UTTER KIND OF, UH, TIM'S COMMENTS.
I ALSO WORK AT HONDA R AND D FOR 28 YEARS.
THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT THE CONTENT.
YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS MESSY, IT IS DIRTY AND IT'S COMPLICATED AS TIM JUST MENTIONED.
SO I HAD A HUGE ITEM I WAS GONNA READ THROUGH, BUT THE BIGGEST ITEM YOU'VE MISSED IS ROOT CAUSE.
THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN DID NOT THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS DEEPLY.
IF YOU THINK THEY'VE CONSIDERED THE COMMUNITY IMPACT, YOU'RE COMPLETELY WRONG.
IT IS NOT THE BITING GOAL FOR HOW TO GUARANTEE ALL THIS TO, TO SHUT SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF DISCUSSION AND THINK, OH, WE'RE DONE.
WE'RE DEFINITELY DOING INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA IS COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE.
ON TOP OF THAT, THEY WIPED OUT THE ENTIRE HOOED ROAD RESIDENCE IN THE VISION DUBLIN PLAN.
HOW IS THAT RESPONSIBLE? NO TRANSITION.
WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS.
AND PLUS WITH LARGE PROPERTIES, WE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THE, THE LAND USE COULD BE ALSO RESIDENTIAL.
IT COULD BRING BACK ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
THERE IS NEED FOR SENIOR CITIZENS HOMES.
WE LAY ALL THAT OUT AND IT'S ALL BEING DISMISSED.
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ASKING THE TOUGH QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND GETTING DATA.
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THE DATA IS NOT THERE TO SUPPORT THESE ITEMS. WE'VE ASKED FOR THE ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY TO COME BACK.WE'VE PULLED THE DATA OURSELVES.
SO THE COMMUNITY HAS $1.3 BILLION FOR RETURN OF ONLY 0.3 A 0.5% ROUGHLY RETURN 600 THOU, $600 MILLION.
THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THE RISK THAT WE ARE TAKING AS DUBLIN'S REPUTATION AND THE LIVELIHOOD OF ALL OF OUR PEOPLE.
SO I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED TONIGHT.
I WAS SITTING THERE SHAKING MY HEAD WINDOW DRESSINGS ALL WE GOT DONE TONIGHT, WE HAD TO STOP AND GO BACK COMPLETELY.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOU GUYS.
UH, MY NAME IS RICHARD WEEKS, UH, 5 8 2 6 HOARD ROAD.
I'VE FLOWN 20 YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE, 22 YEARS WITH NETJETS.
I'VE FLOWN THOUSANDS OF HOURS, FLOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE FOLLOW PROCEDURES.
WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S GOING INTO MY AIRPLANE, UH, WHO AM I CARRYING, WHAT'S THE CARGO I'M CARRYING? IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW ALL THESE THINGS BEFORE I TAKE OFF.
SO THAT BRINGS ME TO AN ISSUE THAT I'M NOT SURE FOLKS ARE AWARE OF.
AND THAT'S THAT, UH, THE EPA JUST PROVIDED A PERMIT FOR THE DATA CENTER TO THE NORTH OF US, UH, FOR 95 DIESEL GENERATORS.
WHAT ARE THOSE FOR? WELL, IT'S BACKUP POWER.
UM, AND THOSE GENERATORS USE DIESEL, WHICH IS THE SAME KIND OF STUFF YOU USE ON THE HIGHWAY.
UH, SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PRETTY CLEAN, BUT FOR EACH GALLON OF DIESEL BURNED, THERE'S UH, 0.284, UH, POUNDS OF POLLUTANTS THAT GO INTO THE AIR.
AND THERE'S 0.149 POUNDS OF CO CARBON OXIDE THAT GOES INTO THE AIR.
UH, IS THAT IMPORTANT? WELL, CONSIDERING THAT THE, EXCUSE ME, THAT FOR EVERY GALLON BURNED, UM, THEY PUT OUT THOSE NOXIOUS, UH, PRODUCTS AND THE NITROGEN OXIDES PUT OUT CAN CAUSE RESPIRATORY IRRITANTS, SKIN BURNS, EYE BURNS, UM, COUGHING, SHORTNESS OF BREATH, WORSENING ASTHMA, HIGH LEVELS LEADING TO BRONCHITIS.
THEY ALSO HARM THE ECOSYSTEM BY CAUSING ACID, RAIN, HAZE, NUTRIENT POLLUTIONS, AND HIGH CONCENTRATIONS CAN REDUCE BLOOD OXYGEN.
CARBON MONOXIDE IS AN ODALIS AND COLORLESS GAS, UM, THAT CAUSES FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS AND POTENTIALLY LEADS TO BRAIN DAMAGE, COMA, OR DEATH.
HEY, THIS IS ONLY FOR A GALLON, A DIESEL.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL EXCEPT WHEN YOU PUT 95 OF THEM TOGETHER, THAT'S 41 POINT SOMETHING POUNDS, UH, FOR ALL OF THOSE GENERATORS OPERATING, THAT STUFF'S COMING OUT AND IT'S GOING RIGHT INTO THE AREA AROUND DAIRY FIELDS WHERE, WHICH IS A SPORT COMPLEX.
WHAT KIND OF CLEAN AIR DO YOU WANT FOR THAT? UH, AND WELL, HOW OFTEN ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS? YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY GONNA RUN ON THEIR BACKUP GENERATORS? WELL, UM, IN NOVEMBER, MONITORING ANALYTICS, WHICH IS THE INDEPENDENT MARKETING MONITOR FOR PJM, WHICH PJM IS THE, UH, GRID THAT RUNS MOST OF THE NORTHEAST, INCLUDING OHIO.
UH, THEY FILED A COMPLAINT WITH A FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION RECOGNIZING THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY TO SERVE DATA CENTERS AND THERE WOULD BE MANDATORY CURTAILMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, BROWNOUTS, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY TO SERVE THEM, UH, THEREFORE THEY'RE GONNA TURN ON THEIR GENERATORS.
HOW OFTEN? HOW LONG? WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT'S A DANGER THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S LOOKED AT.
I, I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN FROM THIS DATA CENTER, BUT THAT'S ALL.
OF COURSE, THERE'S ANOTHER DATA CENTER JUST UP THE ROAD.
UM, SO THESE THINGS ARE, ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT AND WITH WHATEVER YOU ALLOW TO GO INTO THESE NEW AREAS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA
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BE LOOKED AT? YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T STOP THE DATA CENTER NOW.THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE PERMIT, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THE FUTURE? AM I OVER? YOU'RE OVER, SIR.
WELL, I'M SORRY I TALKED TOO MUCH SOMETIMES, BUT I JUST WANNA CAUTION EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED NOW AND IT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT OF FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I, OH, JUST BEFORE I START, I WANNA APOLOGIZE IF I LOOK LIKE I'M GONNA FALL OVER, UM, THE IMPENDING SNOWSTORM.
I GET THESE VIRGO MIGRAINES, SO I'M ACTUALLY HANGING ON FOR DEAR LIFE IF THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, SO TO START WITH, UM, HI THAD BOGGS.
HOW YOU DOING TONIGHT? SORRY TO QUOTE YOU WITHOUT TELLING YOU I WAS GOING TO AHEAD OF TIME, BUT, UM, MUNICIPALITIES MUST CONSIDER AND BALANCE FISCAL NEEDS WITH COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT, ARCHITECTURE, OPEN SPACE AND SUSTAINABILITY.
YOU SAID THAT, UM, YOU RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS FROM CINDY MACINTOSH, YOU, IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET.
THINGS, UM, ABOUT THE HISTORY OF KIND OF HOW THE LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY GOT INCLUDED INTO THE WID.
IT'S A LITTLE SUSPECT, FRANKLY, UM, THAT THAT LAND SOUTH OF SHIRE RINGS, YOU KNOW, UH, WEST OF COS GRAY WASN'T PART OF THE WID IN THAT ORIGINAL ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN.
UM, AND THE CITY REMAINS UNABLE TO QUALIFY INCOME TAX REVENUE EXPECTS TO GENERATE FROM EXPANDING THIS AREA AND MAKING IT PART OF THE WID.
WHY ISN'T THAT INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO DETERMINING WHETHER THERE'S ANY RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR MAKING THIS ID SIX AND PUTTING SOMETHING ELSE THERE OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL? WHY ISN'T THAT INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO BALANCE FINANCIAL GAIN AGAINST THE CONCERN OF AREA RESIDENTS? SHOULDN'T IT BE IMPORTANT? DIDN'T THAD SAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS? I THINK HE DID.
UM, REGARDING THE EXPANSION OF COSWAY ROAD THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT AND GOING TO THE WEST, UH, INSTEAD OF THE EAST, I SPENT ABOUT NINE YEARS WORKING FOR THE OHIO LEGISLATIVE, OHIO LEGISLATIVE COMMISSION.
I'M CURRENTLY DOING SOME WORK FOR ODOT S DEPARTMENT OF, FOR THE ODOT OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.
UM, A LOT OF WORK DEALING WITH RIGHT OF WAY EXPANSION.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE UTILITY POLES THERE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THOSE HAVE TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY DEALT WITH YOU ON MOVING UTILITY POLES.
WHO'S GONNA PAY? ARE THEY GONNA BE PUT UNDERGROUND LIKE THEY SHOULD BE? OR YOU GOING TO END UP WITH GIANT TALL UTILITY POLES THAT ARE NEEDED TO FUND THE ELECTRICITY FOR THESE INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE ELECTRICITY? ARE WE GONNA HAVE THAT ISSUE AGAIN, UM, TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS WERE AWARE THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO GO BACK TO RESIDENTIAL ON THIS? THAT'S JUST FALSE.
IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE AWARE, THEN WHY DID THEY SUBMIT NEW RESIDENTIAL PLANS JUST IN DECEMBER? DON'T, JUST DON'T LIE.
THEY SUBMITTED PLANS IN DECEMBER TODAY.
THEY SENT AN EMAIL, WHICH WE ALL HAVE A COPY OF TO THE CITY INFORMING THEM THAT THEY PLAN TO FIGHT ID SIX.
THE MAJORITY STAKE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THAT LAND ARE GONNA FIGHT YOU ON THIS.
SO IN ADDITION TO ROI, I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE TIME VALUE OF MONEY YOU COULD KEEP TRYING TO TAKE THIS LITTLE TRIANGLE OF LAND AND LIKE FITTING A SQUARE PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE.
FOLLOW THE ADVICE THAT CAME FROM SOMEONE WHO WON'T IDENTIFY THEMSELVES ON CITY STAFF AND TRY TO SHOVE IT IN TO FIT INTO THE WID OR YOU COULD TAKE A STEP FARTHER BACK LIKE EVERYONE'S ASKING YOU TO, AND LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE REALLY USING THIS LAND AND CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL USES.
IT'S IN BETWEEN HOCHER ROAD RESIDENCE, ANDRE, IT SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S WHAT THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN ALL OF THOSE STUDIES CALL FOR.
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OKAY, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO COMMENT AND UH, THIS COMMISSION WILL ALWAYS, UH, LOOK AT THOSE COMMENTS.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
WE'RE GONNA BRING UP ZACH, THE THREE QUESTIONS.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE QUESTIONS TONIGHT ARE FOCUSED ON OUR SUPPORT OF THE ID SIX ROADMAP AND OUR SUPPORT OF THE LANDSCAPE AND MOUNTING TREATMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH MR. GAR AGAIN,
I APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK AND THE PRESENTATION FROM, FROM STAFF AND FROM THE ASSEMBLE GROUPS THAT HAVE, UH, HELPED PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER.
UM, I'LL STICK TO THE QUESTIONS IN ORDER HERE.
SO I, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGES FROM ID TWO TO ID SIX THAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWN.
UH, I THINK THAT THEY DO SHOW AN HONEST REACTION TO A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS HAVE SHOWN ABOUT, UH, THE INTENSITY OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, SIZE.
I THINK THE BUFFERING IS, UH, UH, A BIG MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, LOGISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY I WOULD LIKE AS KATHY, I THINK WOULD TO SEE SOME SORT OF, UH, UTILIZATION OF SOME OF THAT BUFFER ZONE IN A WAY THAT COULD CREATE, YOU KNOW, A PARK-LIKE BUFFER.
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT OUR PARK-LIKE SETTINGS IN, IN, UH, DUBLIN.
OBVIOUSLY WITH PRIVATE LAND, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT OVERLAPPING WITH THE BIKE TRAILS.
BUT, UM, BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH THE COMMENT, UH, KIM MADE ABOUT CONSISTENCY ACROSS, UH, ACROSS THE BUFFERING ZONES.
UM, IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE PRESCRIBING THE, I FORGET HOW IT WAS PUT, BUT THE OVERLAID BUFFERING, UM, ONE THAT REQUIRED THE MOST SPACE IS ALONG THE SAME AREAS WHERE THE RESIDENTS WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE THE SHORTEST BUILDINGS.
AND SO THE CHALLENGE THERE IS PROBABLY FOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE LAND IS GONNA BE DEVELOPED TO HAVE THE SMALLER BUILDINGS USING LESS OF THEIR SPACE.
SO THAT PRESENTS A CHALLENGE, BUT, UM, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE BUFFERING.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE REDUCED HEIGHT.
UM, AND MOVING TO THE SECOND QUESTION, RECOMMENDATIONS AND REVISIONS FOR ID SIX.
UH, I THINK WE'VE HEARD RELEVANT COMMENT ON, UM, WHAT ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IS.
AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN A NEED TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN TO NOT ONLY HOW WE DEFINE WHAT ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IS, BUT MORE BROADLY HOW WE DEFINE, UH, IMPACTS OF MANUFACTURING AND, AND ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE, UH, IN A WAY THAT, UM, IS RESPECTFUL TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, THIS IS PROBABLY REDUNDANT.
UH, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE 200 FOOT SETBACK OVER THE 150.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S ALREADY WITHIN RANGE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
UM, BUT UM, I DO THINK THAT THAT'S A, AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO, UH, BUFFER THAT TRANSITION.
UM, LEMME JUST SEE IF I HAD ANYTHING MORE GENERALLY.
UM, SO AGAIN, I KIND OF EARLIER HINTED AT THE MINIMUM LOT COVERAGE THING.
I COULD SEE THAT BEING A PROBLEM IF WE'RE TRYING TO, AS WE PUT IT IN HERE, I THINK, UH, CREATE A SPACE THAT INTEGRATES INTO THE NATURAL AND BUILD ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK YOU MIGHT NEED MORE VACANT LAND.
AGAIN, THE SCENARIO DESCRIBED WHERE YOU COULD HAVE BACK TO BACK SPA, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL OF THAT, UM, SPACING BETWEEN TWO INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS VERSUS THE SPACING TO RESIDENTIAL SIDES.
UM, UH, AND THEN WITHIN THE LOTS ON AS THEY ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE BORDERS.
UM, WATER ATTEND TO MUCH OF THIS, THIS STUFF I WAS JUST SUPPORTIVE OF.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MY FEEDBACK ON THE TRANSITION FROM ID TWO TO SIX.
I AM STILL HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THE PRIOR VISION DUBLIN PLAN WITH RESIDENCE COMPONENT WITH NOW WE'RE BEING ESSENTIALLY INSTRUCTED THAT RESIDENCE IS OUT.
SO I'M MEANT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
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TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IT'S, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.UH, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE BACK IN.
UH, A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS UP HERE I THOUGHT WERE VERY GOOD RELATIVE TO R AND D, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WASN'T CONCERNED WITH IT PERSONALLY 'CAUSE I WAS, I JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND SO I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE, IT'S TOO VAGUE AS WRITTEN.
THERE NEEDS TO BE, IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT'S GOING, IT NEEDS TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY OVERHAULED, UH, WITH WHAT IS GONNA GO IN, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE BYPRODUCTS.
UH, I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF APPROVAL PROCESS POTENTIALLY ABOUT WHAT IS GONNA BE PUT IN THE BUILDINGS.
THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF WORK.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CONSULTANTS CAN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION BASED ON OTHER CITIES SIMILARLY SITUATED THAT HAVE PROPOSED SOME TYPE OF THIS ADVANCED MANUFACTURING R AND D WITH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESIDENCES ADJACENT.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S ANOTHER FEATURE.
UM, I THINK HILLARY'S COMMENT WAS FANTASTIC ABOUT THE SCREENING ON THAT WE CAN'T PUT IN LITTLE TREES AND IN HOPE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE BIG IN A LONG TIME.
I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A MINIMUM.
THE PROBLEM IS, I UNDERSTAND THE BURDEN COMPONENT THAT IT PLACES ON THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER OR WHOEVER'S GONNA BE TAKING THAT OBLIGATION, WHETHER THE CITY IS GONNA CHIP IN OR WHETHER IT HAS TO BE SOLELY ON THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BALANCE THAT BY ESPECIALLY BRINGING IN THOSE, THOSE LARGER TREES AND DIAMETER, UH, THAT THAT STILL NEEDS SOME WORK.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE REALLY DIDN'T DISCUSS, BUT THERE WAS A LOT IN THE COMMENTS, WAS SOME OF THE LIGHT POLLUTION.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW LIKE THE SIGNS ON COS GRAY, I THINK THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET ON, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE BUILDINGS.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE THESE LIKE CRAZY SECURITY LIGHTS AT NIGHT THAT ARE THIS HORRIBLE BLUE COLOR THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT REALLY WASN'T DISCUSSED.
SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME COMPONENT IN THAT.
UM, SOME OF THE ROADMAP RELATIVE TO, TO THAT PIECE.
UM, I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD LOOK, WHETHER IT'S A, IT'S A TRIGGER, RIGHT? WHERE IT COMES ON, THERE'S CERTAIN BASE LIGHTS THAT ARE ON AT CERTAIN TIMES, BUT THEN AT NIGHT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRIGGERED BY MOVEMENT OR SOMETHING.
LEMME GIVE YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ON THAT.
YOU CAN, THERE ARE LIGHTING STANDARDS AND EVERY SITE HAS TO PRO PROVIDE A PHOTOMETRIC ANALYSIS, RIGHT? LIGHTING ON THAT SIDE.
WE KNOW THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE WHERE LIGHTING EXTREMELY REGULATED.
YEAH, I'M JUST, I'M JUST THINKING SOMETIMES WE WANT THERE TO BE A LOT OF LIGHT, RIGHT? IN CERTAIN PLACES, SECURITY, RIGHT.
BUT HERE, IF THERE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE ACTIVITY DURING THE DAY, MAYBE IT'S, THERE'S CERTAIN TRIGGERS.
IT'S JUST NEEDS WORK IS WHAT, SO THERE'S A WHOLE CONCEPT CALLED DARK SKIES AROUND MINIMIZING LIGHTING AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ASK BE EXPLORED.
AND IT'S ALL MEANT TO REDUCE LIGHT POLLUTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UM, SO I KIND OF ADDRESSED LIKE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK AND I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO ARGUE IT BASED ON THE, UH, THE STAND OF THE 200 FOOT SETBACK.
IT SOUNDS REASONABLE IN THIS SITUATION.
AGAIN, I'M, UH, JUST GOING BACK TO THE FOCUS ON ONE, I I'M, I'M JUST NOT SURE IF, IF, IF RESIDENTIAL NEEDS TO BE INTRODUCED BACK, BUT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE IT CAN'T.
SO I'M GONNA KIND OF JUST ABSTAIN FROM THAT COMPONENT, UH, FROM NUMBER ONE OR, AND SEE WHAT COMES UP ON THE, ON THE NEXT, THE NEXT MEETING TO CLARIFY, THAT'S PROBABLY FROM ID TWO TO ID SIX RATHER THAN FROM RESIDENTIAL TO ID SIX, WHATEVER.
THE, THE PRIOR STANDARD WAS THAT IT'S MOVED.
SO YEAH, ID TWO, AGAIN, THAT DOES NOT PERMIT RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO THIS AS THE, AS THE BASE THAT WAS WHERE, WHERE WE WERE REZONING TO BEFORE.
SO THAT JUST FOR CLARITY, RIGHT, THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED BEFORE.
I'M JUST GOING BACK TO A LOT OF WHAT WAS IN THE COMMENTS, THE HISTORY THAT WE WERE PROVIDED, THE CHANGE, THE ENVISION PLAN, IT'S A LOT OUT THERE.
JUST THE, THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN WENT THROUGH 18 MONTH, 24 MONTH PROCESS AND IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT THE COMMISSION HAS TO WORK WITH TONIGHT, RIGHT? IT CALLS FOR TECH FLEX.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALL LIKE I'M SAYING I KNOW THAT TO WORK WITH IT.
I'M JUST, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GIVEN.
SO THE ROADMAP PREPARED BY MCBRIDE, DALE CLARION LISTS USES, BUT DOES NOT LIST USE DEFINITIONS.
THOSE WILL BE PROVIDED MORE FULLY
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CERTAINLY WHEN THERE IS A DRAFT CODE FOR THE COMMISSION TO COMMENT ON AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MR. DALE AND HIS, UM, COLLEAGUE ARE SITTING HERE THIS EVENING AND I'M SURE HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THESE USES.
UM, GENERALLY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE CODE DIRECTION PRESENTED.
UM, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THE CODE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE USES THAT ARE APPROVED IN THIS DISTRICT.
SO IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT ADVANCED MANUFACTURING.
SO THERE ARE OTHER USES THAT CAN BE IN THIS DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, I DO SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THOSE, WHAT THE BYPRODUCTS ARE, WHAT THOSE PROCESSES ARE AND THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
SO IF THE CODE CAN SOMEHOW BE TIGHTENED UP TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, I WOULD FEEL A LOT COMFORTABLE, UM, ABOUT THOSE, THOSE PARTICULAR USES BEING APPROVED USES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LOOK, I KEEP LOOKING AT NUMBER THREE AND, AND 200 FOOT SETBACK IS WHAT WE LEGISLATE, BUT THE ACTUAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE STRUCTURES IS OVER A FOOTBALL FIELD.
IT'S CLOSER TO OVER 400 FEET BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
AND THERE ARE THREE LEVELS OF, OF, UM, ISOLATION.
YOU HAVE THE PLANTINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE, IN THE MOUND.
THERE'S CURRENTLY A BACK OF BALANCE RATE.
THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MEDIAN THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
AND THEN WE HAVE THESE ENORMOUS MOUNDS AND THINK 14 FOOT MOUNDS.
THEY'RE TWICE AS TALL AS ANY OF THESE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF MOUNDS LIKE THIS, MAYBE THEY HAVE 'EM IN NEW ALBANY, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE 'EM AROUND HERE.
THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MOUNDS AND THE TREES ACTUALLY PROVIDE CARBON SEQUESTRATION.
SO WE'RE INTERESTED IN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IN OUR PROJECTS AND ALL THE ADDITIONAL TREES THAT'LL BE PLANTED ALONG COS GRAPE DO HELP US ENVIRONMENTALLY.
SO I DO THINK IT MEETS SOME OF, SOME OF OUR STANDARDS.
SO, UM, I I I THINK I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN GO MUCH FURTHER WITH THESE LANDSCAPE.
UM, I MEAN I'M, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH US BEING PROS IN THE MOUNTING AND I, AND I SUPPORT ALL THAT.
I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR FIRST, UM, COMMENTS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING.
UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S BEEN IN THIS PROCESS AND WORKING VERY, VERY HARD.
AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY TAKING THE TIME AND, AND MEETING WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, NEIGHBORS AND THE COMMUNITY AND BUILDING THAT RAPPORT.
UM, AND UM, THE REPORT TODAY TOO WAS VERY GOOD.
UM, I'M GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, IN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CODE DIRECTION.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'LL GO BACK TO.
I THINK YOU, YOU SAID IT, YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY THAT, UM, AND VERY RESPECTFULLY ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM HERE AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IT, IT IS THE PARTICULARS THAT WHERE WE ARE NOW THAT HOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, MOVE THIS, UH, FORWARD.
AND, UM, I I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'LL GET TO THE BUFFERING A LITTLE BIT, BUT, BUT THE HEIGHTS, UM, AND GOING BACK FROM 68 TO 45, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.
UM, UH, THE ENCLOSURE STRUCTURE.
I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, UM, A DIFFERENT KIND OF OFFICE SPACE AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MEDICAL HERE, THAT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY.
SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD KIND OF, UM, GET TO GROW THERE.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THE SETBACKS ARE, UM, SUBSTANTIAL IN THAT, IN THAT RANGE TOO.
UH, AND ALL OF THE PLANTINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH, WITH THE SEASONS HAS GOTTA BE KEY IN THIS.
AND, UM, AND THEN WORKING TOWARDS IT, YOU KNOW, IT SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN, NO LARGE DATA CENTERS.
AND SO TO ME THAT'S QUITE IMPORTANT THERE TOO.
UM, AND, UM, JUST KEEPING THE PROXIMITY OF WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE AS A FIRST THOUGHT AND, UH, LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE AROUND THAT.
UM, AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, WITH DARI FIELDS AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE OVER IN THAT WAY, WHAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE IN THAT, THAT REGARD THERE TOO.
UM, I GET, UM, TO LIKE, UH, NUMBER TWO, UM, WITH THE ROADMAP.
UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK CITY COUNCIL IS REALLY TAKING AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO LOOK AT THAT IN DEPTH AND REALLY CAN PLAY A, A PART IN THIS, UH, ABOUT THE TWO, THE ABOUT IT COMING AND GOINGS OF NOISES OR IF THERE IS A, AN ODD NOISE THAT THAT
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JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE RIGHT.THAT THERE IS A RECOURSE OF WHAT TO DO.
AND, AND THAT'S ALL SET PRIOR TO THAT.
UM, AND LIKE THE STORIES LIMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK, UM, MAKE SENSE.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS TODAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT IF THEY LEAK AND, AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
SO ALL THOSE THINGS, THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN I GET TO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH, UH, THE LANDSCAPING AGAIN, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CONSISTENCY WITH THAT, UH, AROUND THAT AREA AND HOW IT'S VERY MUCH MATURED.
AND I THINK YOU'RE TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT ALSO.
ALL THE STONES AND THINGS OF THAT SET THAT ARE SET IN THAT WAY AND THAT AREA NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING THOUGHTS AND SO FORTH.
AND IF THERE'S A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO INTERACT WITH THINGS, I MORE, MORE THE BETTER, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA FOR SURE.
UM, AND I ENCOURAGE THE, UM, NEIGHBORS AND, UH, CITY, THE CITY DOES A GREAT JOB WHEN THINGS ARE ALL DONE THAT THEN THEY GO AND THEY INSPECT IT AND THEY MAKE SURE IT WAS DONE PRECISELY.
AND THE NEIGHBORS SHOULD BE PART OF THAT AS WELL TOO, TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THAT, UM, KIND OF EXERCISE THROUGHOUT THAT WAY.
AND LASTLY, I DO THINK ABOUT DARI FIELDS AND HOW THAT'S RIGHT THERE AND THAT EXPERIENCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT BECOMES, I, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN A LOOK AT WITH THAT TOO.
SO, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.
UM, AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, UM, IF IT WASN'T FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM PARTICIPATING.
MR. CHIN, I, I ECHOES A LOT OF THE SAME COMMENTS WE'VE HEARD.
I, AGAIN, ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE.
UM, AND I JUST, JUST TO COMMENT ON THE ENVISION DUBLIN AND SOME OF THE CRITICISM OF ENVISION DUBLIN, THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GUIDE AND I THINK THIS WHOLE PROCESS, THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT ID SIX SHOWS THAT IT'S WORKING, IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS FLEXIBILITY IN A VISION DUBLIN, THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED THAT I'VE SEEN, WHERE THE CITY'S WILLING TO HIRE CONSULTANTS TAKE THE EXTRA TIME ENERGY TO CREATE THIS EXTENSIVE OF A ROADMAP AND PLAN, UM, BASED ON KIND OF STUFF WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
SO I, I, I DO THINK THIS JUST IS PROOF THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, CITY CONSULTANTS, IT'S ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO DO WHAT ALL WE WE'RE ALL TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, WHICH IS DEVELOP A REALLY NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I WILL ADD TOO, TO SOME OF THE, NOW, NOW WHEN WE GET SPECIFIC TO ID SIX, THIS, ID SIX PERTAINS TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT ID SIX AS A GO FORWARD, THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER LOCATIONS AT ID SIX.
SO I HATE TO GET SO LINKED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH IT'S HARD TO NOT TO DO BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST ONE.
BUT I THINK OUR TASK TONIGHT IS TO LOOK AT ID SIX ON A BIGGER SCALE TO SAY, MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THIS USED TO BE.
SO ALSO IN HERE UNDER, I THINK GARY MADE A GREAT POINT TO SAY ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IS ONE PIECE OF THIS, AND IT DOES SAY IN HERE, DO NOT CREATE NOISE, ODOR, VIBRATION OR HAZARDOUS BYPRODUCTS.
NOW I AGREE WE NEED TO PROBABLY CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE FURTHER.
WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO RESTRICT WHAT GOES IN BUT TO, TO, TO DISMISS IT, THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT.
AGAIN, AGREE WITH JASON'S COMMENT.
WE CERTAINLY DO CARE ABOUT IT.
IT SAYS IT IN HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT MORE FOR SURE.
BUT I DON'T WANNA GET HUNG UP ON ADVANCED MANUFACTURING 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER SERVICES HERE THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY PROPOSING.
UM, AND THEN LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE IMAGES IN THE BOULEVARD, WE'VE COMMENTED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREE'S HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT I WOULD ARGUE, OR I WOULD SS SUGGEST WE KIND OF THINK ABOUT THIS, THAT THE BOULEVARD WE'RE CREATING SPECIFICALLY ON COS GRAY ACTUALLY ADDS TO THE RESIDENTIAL FEEL.
I THINK ENHANCES THE RESIDENTIAL FEEL.
WE'RE ADDING A TUNNEL OF LANDSCAPING, MOUNTING THE BUILDING HEIGHT REDUCTION, I THINK IT ADDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT BUFFERS, AS GARY MENTIONED, IT BUFFERS THE ROAD, I MEAN IMMENSELY.
AND IT CREATES A REALLY, REALLY NICE BOULEVARD THERE THAT MIGHT NOT BE HAPPENING.
IF IT WASN'T GOING TO BE ZONED THIS, IF IT WAS GONNA BE SOME OTHER HIGH DENSITY USE, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT LEVEL OF CHARACTER HERE.
SO I JUST CHALLENGED US TO KIND OF CONSIDER THAT TOO ABOUT ALL THE ADDITIONAL EFFORT THAT'S GOING INTO THAT BOULEVARD, THAT STREET SCAPE.
AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT SHARED USE PATHS, USE SHARED USE PATHS, YOU KNOW, AND CREATING A NICE ACTIVE LANDSCAPE AREA.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO AND WHAT THAT MEANS.
'CAUSE I, I, AGAIN, I THINK IT REALLY ACTIVATES HERE.
SO I'M, I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
I ECHO THE, THE, THE COMMENTS OF, YEAH, WE NEED TO DEVELOP A LITTLE FURTHER, THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TODAY.
BUT AGAIN, I, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A BIG STEP BACK AND SAY WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LOT HERE.
I MEAN WE'RE, AND I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, WE'RE ASKING OUR
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POTENTIAL FUTURE OWNERS TO DO A HECK OF A LOT.THIS IS A BIG COMMITMENT FOR THEM.
AND IT'S A REALLY, REALLY, IT'S, IT'S, IT CAN BE A REALLY NICE DEVELOPMENT IF WE KIND OF APPROACH IT THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, BEING LAST AND ALSO HAVING SOMETHING GOING ON WITH MY THROAT.
I'M NOT GONNA TALK TOO MUCH EXCEPT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO HAS, IS PARTICIPATING IN THIS, THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS, OUR CONSULTANTS.
I APPRECIATE THE CITY BRINGING IN CONSULTANTS WITH THEIR EXPERTISE.
IT'S, IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO US.
I REALLY ECHO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID.
I THINK IT, AND I DON'T EVEN WANNA SAY A START, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A YEAR OR MORE.
I ECHO THE ADVANCED, UM, MANUFACTURING AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, UH, THE TREES, THE, THE SPECIFICS OF THE TREES.
UM, THINK ABOUT IF IT'S POSSIBLE MAYBE TO, I DON'T, AND I DON'T KNOW, HAVE LIGHTER USES TOWARDS COS GRAY, HEAVIER USES IN THE BACK.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, REALLY AT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID.
I GET THE LAST WORD THOUGH,
UM, AGAIN, I THINK A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS IN THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ROADMAP IS A ROADMAP TO GET US TO A, A TEXT AND I, AND IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO I THINK THE COMMENTS WE HEARD TONIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ADVANCED MANUFACTURING USE IS NEW.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A, WE HAVEN'T DEALT WITH IT YET, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS, 'CAUSE IT'S BEING, BUT I'M GUESSING THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF USES ALREADY IN DUBLIN, BUT MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN A ZONE, BUT ARE THERE OTHER USES THAT WE WOULD CLASSIFY AS ADVANCED MANUFACTURING? AND SO MAYBE WE NEED TO NO, NO, NO.
SO MAYBE I JUST, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT ALREADY OCCURRING IN DUBLIN, HOW THEY OCCUR, HOW THEY'RE MANAGED.
I MEAN, WE HEARD THAT THERE'S ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND STUFF WITH THEM.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT IN IN, IN THIS CITY WOULD NOT GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS EFFORT OF UNDERSTANDING THE ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON AND THE BYPRODUCTS AND THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I GOTTA BELIEVE THAT SOMEHOW IN THE LANGUAGE.
I THINK WE SHOULD BUILD IN SOME KIND OF, UM, PIECE TO THAT.
LIKE WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL MEASURES AND PROTECTIONS DO WE DO? UM, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF USES THAT ARE, ARE OUR PLAN THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH US.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE, BUT I THINK AS YOU DEVELOP THE TEXT, I THINK SOME MORE MEAT ON WHAT, I MEAN WHEN I READ WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, IT, IT SEEMS VERY INNOCUOUS
SO MAYBE THERE, THERE IS SOME EFFORTS TO REALLY GET IT PRECISE.
WE DON'T CREATE SITUATIONS THAT ARE, UM, DANGEROUS, UM, IN ANY WAY.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THE CITY WOULD DO THAT ANYWAY.
SO JUST THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, CODE PROCESS, WHATEVER.
SO I THINK THE ROAD MAP MAP'S GREAT, I THINK, I THINK SOME QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC USE AND SOME MORE LANGUAGE AROUND THAT.
UM, TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE BUFFER.
AND AGAIN, UM, IN MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE MIND, I WAS THINKING OF THAT AS A LINEAR OPEN SPACE.
I WAS LIKE, I WAS ALREADY PUTTING MY OWN THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT IT WAS.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE SOME THAT SUCH AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT TO THIS DISTRICT THAT IT ISN'T THOUGHT OF AS A ELEMENT.
AND IT'S DONE IN TOTALITY AND IT'S THOUGHT OF HOW IT'S, IT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO LIKE KEEPING THE COMMUNITY OUT.
EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, IF, IF WE WANTED TO KEEP THE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM ENTERING INTO THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AREA, I MEAN YOU COULD EVEN INTEGRATE A FENCE INTO THIS BUFFER THAT WAS HIDDEN BY THE LANDSCAPE THAT WOULD KEEP PEOPLE CONTAINED AND THE REST COULD BE USED MORE FREELY AND PUBLICLY.
SO I, I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXPLORED.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE LAND AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S LIKE THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT OVER AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BECOME PUBLIC, IS MY GUESS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS AGAIN, IT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S EASEMENTS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE PROBABLY INTEGRATED IF IT WAS PRIVATE THAT THERE'S, I DUNNO, AGAIN, SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROCESS AND I THINK THE ROADMAP STARTS TO CON, YOU KNOW, IS A GOOD START TO THE CONVERSATION.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK LOOKING AT THOSE USES A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER.
UM, AND THEN THINKING ABOUT THIS, UM, THE, THE SETBACK AS THE, AS KIND OF
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A CONTRIBUTING ELEMENT TO THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO A REQUIREMENT OF BUFFERING THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS WOULD HAVE TO INTEGRATE.'CAUSE I SOMEHOW, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MIGHT WORK.
SO I THINK MY COMMENTS ARE ECHOING A LOT OF WHAT I HEARD, UH, TONIGHT FROM THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.
SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK, UM, STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS IF THEY'VE HEARD ENOUGH FROM US AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION BEYOND WHAT YOU MENTIONED.
OKAY, JENNY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THE ANSWER, I HAVE NONE.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, I WILL CONSI CONSIDER THIS ADJOURNED.