Nov 06, 2025 Planning &amp; Zoning Commission

IS CASE NUMBER 24 DASH 0 3 6 CU RADIANT LIFE SOCCER FIELDS CONDITIONAL USE A REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW SOCCER FIELDS AT AN EXISTING CHURCH.

OUR FIRST CASE TONIGHT

[Case #24-036CU]

THE 24.48 ACRE SITE IS OWNED OUR RURAL DISTRICT AND IS LOCATED AT 7,100 POST ROAD, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP TO MAKE THEIR PRE PRESENTATION.

AND WELCOME BACK MR. ANDRE .

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

RECALL THAT PREVIOUSLY WE HAD ALSO COMMITTED TO NO GAMES BEING PERMITTED.

UH, I WILL MISS, MISS CALL.

SHE WAS A, SHE WAS A GREAT CHAIR, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO, EVEN THOUGH MAYBE SHE'S LISTENING SOMEWHERE, BUT APPRECIATE ALL OF HER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS ERIN UNDERHILL.

UH, I'M AN ATTORNEY AT UNDERHILL IN HODGE AT 8,000 WALTON PARKWAY IN NEW ALBANY, OHIO, HERE REPRESENTING RADIANT LIFE CHURCH.

UH, WE WERE HERE SOME, UH, OH BOY, SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO AT LEAST, UH, TO PRESENT A PLAN FOR, UH, SOCCER FIELDS AND, UM, DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, WE WERE COMMITTING TO AT THAT TIME, UH, WITH THE INTENT THAT DSX WOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO HOLD DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES HERE RELATED TO THEIR, UH, SOCCER, UH, LEAGUE.

AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY HARD AT WORK OVER THE PAST, UH, PAST NUMBER OF MONTHS TRYING TO, UH, TIGHTEN UP THE PLAN, UH, LISTEN TO CONCERNS, UM, AND, UH, ADDRESS AS MANY OF THEM AS WE CAN.

I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE.

YOU CAN SEE ON, ON MY SLIDE HERE, WE HAVE ELIMINATED THE ABILITY FOR TOURNAMENTS TO BE HELD ON THE SITE.

UM, YOU'LL

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SO THE ACTIVITIES HERE WOULD BE PRACTICES IN ACCORDANCE WITH A PRETTY LENGTHY SCHEDULE AND, AND PRECISE SCHEDULE THAT WE PROVIDED IN OUR OPERATIONAL PLAN.

UH, AND, UH, UP TO FIVE WEEKS OF SUMMER CAMP, UH, AS DETAILED IN THAT PLAN, UM, WE'VE ELIMINATED ONE OF THE PREVIOUSLY FIVE SOCCER FIELDS.

SO WE NOW HAVE FOUR FIELDS THAT HAVE TO BE WITHIN THIS PLANE ENVELOPE.

UH, THAT IS, UH, IN, UH, THE DARK, UH, BLACK THERE.

UH, AND, UM, I HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW WHERE WE HAVE INCREASED THE BUFFERING FROM OUR PREVIOUS APPLICATION.

SO WE HAVE INCREASED THE BUFFERING FROM, UH, THE NEIGHBORING, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UH, BOTH ON THE NORTH, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN, AND ON THE WEST, WHICH IS TO THE TOP.

UM, WE HAVE A, UH, PROVIDED A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PLAYERS PER PRACTICE SESSION, UH, AND, UM, UH, WE HAVE DECREASED THE PRACTICE HOURS ON FRIDAYS TO ONLY ONE SESSION, UH, AND, UM, COMMITTED ALSO TO A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SOCCER CAMPERS DURING, UH, THOSE SESSIONS.

SO, UM, THERE'S ALSO A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT WE HAD PROMISED, UH, WOULD BE, UH, ADHERED TO, UH, THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED AS PART OF THE RECORD THAT WILL BE PROVIDED TO EACH OF THE, UH, THE FAMILIES AND THEIR, THE CHILDREN AND PARENTS THAT WILL BE PARTICIPATING HERE.

AND IT WILL, UM, INDICATE THAT, UM, THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO HERE THAT REALLY ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE SOME COOPERATION FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

AND, UM, THE FACT THAT A SECOND VIOLATION OF THOSE AFTER YOU GET ONE WARNING WILL RESULT IN DISMISSAL OF YOUR CHILD FROM THE TEAM AND THEIR INABILITY TO PARTICIPATE HERE AT THIS LOCATION.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T OFTEN COME UP IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE LAW.

WE'RE OFTEN TALKING ABOUT POLICY, BUT I DID WANT TO, UH, DEMONSTRATE, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT APPLY HERE.

UM, ONE, UH, IS AN OHIO, UH, 10TH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS CASE THAT I THINK IS REALLY ON ALL FOURS WITH, UH, WITH THIS CASE.

AND, UM, I DETAILED THIS IN A LETTER TO, TO SARAH, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION.

BUT, UM, THERE WAS A CASE, UH, SOME TIME AGO IN FRANKLIN COUNTY IN THE 10TH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS, WHICH APPLIES TO A LOT OF DUBLIN.

UM, THIS SITE IS IN UNION COUNTY, BUT, UM, UH, A HOMEOWNER ACROSS THE STREET FROM A CHURCH, UH, BASICALLY FILED SUIT TO TRY TO ENJOIN THE OPERATION OF A LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL FIELD ON A CHURCH SITE.

AND, UH, THE COURT FOUND, UH, THAT THE USE OF THE CHURCH'S SITE WAS PERMISSIBLE AS AN EXTENSION OF THE CHURCH'S OUTREACH PROGRAM.

AND, UM, UH, YOU CAN READ FOR YOURSELF SOME OF THE FINDINGS HERE, BUT I THINK, UH, THIS IS REALLY A CASE THAT THAT SHEDS A LOT OF LIGHT HERE ON THE FACT THAT CHURCHES, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY DO HAVE TO FOLLOW UNDERLYING ZONING RULES, DO HAVE A WIDE REACH OF USES AND, UM, UH, THAT ARE PERMISSIBLE IN FURTHERANCE OF THEIR MISSION.

AND, UM, JUST LIKE A, A, UH, UH, BASEBALL DIAMOND HERE THAT WAS BEING USED FOR FOUR GAMES PER WEEK WAS DEEMED TO BE, UM, LEGAL.

UH, SO WE BELIEVE IS THE, UH, SOCCER USES AND SOCCER FIELDS THAT WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, THE STAFF REPORT, BOTH THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE AND THIS TIME, ALSO MENTIONS THE RELIGIOUS LAND USE AND INSTITUTIONALIZED PERSONS ACT, ALSO CALLED RUPPA.

UH, AND, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW, UM, ZONING MUST, UH, NOT SEE RELIGION ESSENTIALLY, AND RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND USES MUST BE, MUST BE TREATED IN A MANNER THAT IS SIMILAR AND SUBJECT TO THE SAME OR SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS AS NON-RELIGIOUS USES.

SO, UH, ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES HERE, SARAH, UM, I HAVE SHOWN SOME OTHER PARKS AND SCHOOLS, UH, SCHOOL SITES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REQUIRED TO, UH, SUBMIT TO A FIVE TO SEVEN PAGE SET OF RULES AND REGULATIONS.

BUT, UH, UH, AT LEAST TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL BACKING RIGHT UP TO A NUMBER OF FIELDS AND STADIUMS. HERE'S DUBLIN KAUFMAN HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, WE HAVE DUBLIN, JEROME, YOU CAN SEE OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

WE'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO SOME BASEBALL DIAMONDS.

NEXT ONE DEER RUN.

UH, YOU CAN SEE A FIELD OF SOME SORT RIGHT THERE, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, UH, RIGHT UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL, ALONG WITH A, UH, A, UH, TRACK.

NEXT ONE, UH, AVERY PARK, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE BASEBALL DIAMOND RIGHT THERE TO THE REAR OF THOSE HOMES.

AND, UM, THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS, IS, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO REACH A, UH,

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RESOLUTION TO THIS THAT IS, UM, FAIR TO THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO, UM, UH, BY THE MOST EFFICIENT MEANS POSSIBLE TO GET, GET PERMISSION FROM THE CITY.

UH, WE HAVE TRIED TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE BELIEVE WE REALLY THINK WE NEED TO DO HERE AND MADE THESE COMMITMENTS.

AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS WITH THE FACTORS IN THE CODE TO BE CONSIDERED.

UH, WAS VERY HAPPY THAT CITY STAFF, UM, WHO ALWAYS DOES A THOROUGH JOB WITH THEIR REPORTS, UM, AGREED THAT WE DO MEET THOSE CONDITIONS AND DID NOT HAVE ANY CONDITIONS TO AN APPROVAL SUGGESTED.

SO I THINK THAT SPEAKS OF VOLUMES ABOUT HOW WE ARE COMPLIANT, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE'VE PROVIDED EVIDENCE THAT THE CHURCH IS, UM, UH, IS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE ZONING.

AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PARK PARKS AND PARK, LET'S SEE, PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, AND PLAY FIELDS ARE ALREADY PERMITTED USES IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT AND ON THIS SITE.

AND SO IF THERE WERE NO CHURCH HERE, THESE FIELDS COULD BE PLACED ON, ON THE SITE AS OF RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE PERMITTED USES.

SO THE REALLY ONLY DISTINGUISHING FACTOR HERE IS WE'RE WE'RE OPERATING THESE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE CHURCH.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT IS SORT OF BEEN, SORT OF NEWS TO ME WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE CODE AS WE WERE GOING BACK THROUGH THIS AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF NOT FOR THE CHURCH, THESE THINGS WOULD BE PERMITTED BY, RIGHT.

UM, IT'S OUR POSITION THAT IF, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A, WHAT WE CALL A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.

SO IF WE WERE TO APPEAL THIS, UM, A, A DISAPPROVAL TO COURT, UH, WE WOULD GO AND DO SO, UM, UNDER THE AUSPICE THAT WE WOULD NOT BE MAKING THE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE IN THIS APPLICATION.

AND WE WOULD BE ASKING THE COURT TO MERELY, UH, PROVIDE AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THESE ARE PERMITTED USES OR NOT ON THIS SITE.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE IN, IN THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTEREST TO, UM, HAVE THIS APPROVED TONIGHT AND HAVE THESE EXTRA PROTECTIONS THAT THEY SEEK BECAUSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IF, UH, WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS BEYOND HERE, THAT THAT WOULD, THOSE WOULD BE, UM, UH, COMPELLED.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, I KNOW THE STAFF WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PRESENTATION.

WE'LL HAVE Q AND A AND I'LL, UH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS THEN.

THANK YOU, MR. ANDRE.

MS. HOLT STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

SINCE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PROJECT SINCE LAST MARCH.

JUST BRIEFLY KIND OF OUTLINE WHERE WE ARE.

UH, THE SITE IS SHOWN IN YELLOW HERE.

IT IS BETWEEN THE POST PRESERVE AND GORDON FARMS NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT'S NORTHEAST OF POST PRESERVE, BOULEVARD AND POST ROAD.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS OUR RURAL AND THE 2011 DUBLIN CITY CODE ALLOWS RELIGIOUS USES AS A CONDITIONAL USE ON LOTS GREATER THAN FIVE ACRES.

SO THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR THE EXPANSION OF A CHURCH USE, HOWEVER THAT IS MANIFESTED, WHETHER IT'S A CHURCH BUILDING OR SOCCER FIELDS OR SOMETHING ELSE, IT IS THEREFORE A CONDITIONAL USE.

UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WITH THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, THERE ARE ENFORCEABLE TERMS THAT THE APPLICANT CAN BE HELD TO.

THE ADJACENT ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL VIA THE PUD PROCESS AND ENVISION DUBLIN RECOGNIZES THE SITE AS CIVIC OR COMMUNITY, WHICH ALLOWS FOR RECREATIONAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES.

ORIENTING US TO THE SITE.

PHOTOS ONE AND TWO SHOW THE ADJACENT HOMES AND POST PRESERVE AND THE NEWLY INSTALLED LANDSCAPING.

PHOTO THREE SHOWS THE GENERAL VIEW LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS POST PRESERVE.

PHOTOS FOUR AND FIVE SHOW THE VEGETATED BUFFER AT GORDON FARMS. FOUR IS TAKEN FROM INSIDE THE BUFFER SINCE THE PROJECT WAS TABLED AT PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MARCH.

STAFF HOSTED A MEETING IN JUNE WITH THE APPLICANTS, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND THEIR ATTORNEY AND STAFF.

A COMPLETE LIST OF THE RESULTING MODIFICATIONS ARE IN THE REPORT.

AND THESE WERE SUMMARIZED BY THE APPLICANT AND ARE AGAIN, UM, WRITTEN HERE.

THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENCE ATTORNEY DID

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PROVIDE A RESPONSE LETTER BASED ON CHANGES TO THE PLAN AND THE MANAGEMENT PLAN FROM THAT MEETING.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY, OF COURSE, PROVIDED A REBUTTAL.

BOTH OF THESE ARE IN YOUR PACKETS, AND THIS IS JUST A QUICK DETAIL OF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN HERE.

NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT AND THE PREVIOUSLY LISTED CHANGES ARE REFLECTED IN THIS PLAN.

THE ATTACHED MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND THEN THE CODE OF CONDUCT 53 ADDITIONAL TREES HAVE BEEN ADDED WITHIN THE GREEN OVALS, AND THE APPLICANT HAS BEGUN INSTALLING THIS LANDSCAPE ON SITE.

SO STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND THE LATEST REVISIONS.

WE FIND THAT ALL CRITERIA ARE MET AS DETAILED IN THE REPORT.

THEREFORE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ALL OF THOSE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO YOUR PACKET, UM, INCLUDING COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S ATTORNEY, WHICH IS ALSO PRINTED AT YOUR DESK SINCE IT ARRIVED RATHER LATE AND IS LENGTHY.

AND THEN, UM, A PETITION IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

AND WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. HOLT.

UM, I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO THE COMMISSION NOW FOR QUESTIONS.

SHALL WE START TO MY RIGHT, MR. CHINOOK? .

THANK YOU, UH, AGAIN, WE, UH, APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK AND MAKING, MAKING SOME OF THOSE CHANGE THAT REQUESTED.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY FOR THE APPLICANT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST TO, UH, KIND OF GIVE EVERYBODY THE VISION FOR, UM, THE USE OF THIS.

WHAT ARE, CAN YOU CAN, CAN YOU CLARIFY THE HOURS OF THE CAMPS AND THE HOURS OF THE PRACTICES AT THIS LOCATION? YES, BUT I WILL NEED TO READ FROM MY NOTES.

SO PRACTICES WILL OCCUR DURING TWO TIME PERIODS, UM, UH, DURING THE YEAR MARCH 1ST THROUGH JUNE 15TH AND JULY 15TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 6TH.

UH, NO PRACTICES ON SUNDAYS.

UH, AND, UH, THERE WILL BE BLOCKS OF PRACTICE TIME, UH, FROM FOUR 30 TO 6:00 PM AND SIX O'CLOCK TO 8:00 PM ON MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

UH, FRIDAYS WILL BE FIVE TO 7:00 PM THEN ON SATURDAYS 8:00 AM TO 11, AND 11 TO ONE, UH, SUMMER CAMPS WILL, THERE WILL BE A PERMITTED TOTAL OF FIVE WEEKS DURING THE MONTHS OF JUNE AND JULY DURING TWO BLOCKS OF TIME, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, FIRST BLOCK BEING FROM 8:00 AM TO 11:00 AM AND THE SECOND FROM FIVE THROUGH EIGHT, EIGHT 5:00 PM THROUGH 8:00 PM.

AND THEN IN THE, IN THOSE TIME PERIODS WHERE THEY'RE NOT BEING USED FOR PRACTICE OR SOCCER, UM, WHAT'S, ARE THE FIELDS OPEN TO PUBLIC USE? NEIGHBORHOOD USE IS, OR IS THAT RESTRICTED? YEAH.

WOULD YOU ALLOW, I MEAN, I THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC COULD COME ON THERE.

THERE'LL BE NOTHING ORGANIZED NECESSARILY UNLESS THERE'S A CHURCH EVENT.

BUT, UM, INEVITABLY A A CHURCH PROPERTY LIKE THIS WITH THAT MUCH OPEN SPACE, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS IN THERE FROM TIME TO TIME.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY FENCING OR ANYTHING AROUND THE PROPERTY.

'CAUSE YOU WANT IT TO BE OPEN TO POTENTIALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO USE THE NICE FIELDS YOU'RE CREATING.

PERFECT.

UM, I THINK THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR THE MOMENT.

THANK YOU MS. HAR.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, I'M GLAD THAT YOU MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND UM, ALSO DURING THAT TIME, DID YOU HAPPEN TO SPEAK ABOUT MOUNDING? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE AN AREA THAT REALLY IS KIND OF MISSED IN THAT AREA.

AND, UH, BUT YOU GOT TO THE POINT WHERE TREES WERE TO BE ADDED AND THERE'S SOME BEAUTIFUL TREES THERE.

SO ABOUT MOUNDING, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? YEAH, SO THERE IS AN EXISTING BERM IN THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE THAT'S APPROXIMATELY FIVE FEET TALL.

IS THAT RIGHT, SARAH? FIVE FEET? UM, THAT IS CORRECT.

WE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT.

CHRIS, THE GROWTH OF THAT? AND I'LL LET TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME I'LL, BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT ON THE SIDE, I CAN, THAT WOULD KIND OF MATCH THE OTHER SIDES A BIT.

SO THAT EXISTS, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, GIVEN THE NATURE OF, UM, OF WHERE WE ARE AND THE, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT EASIER WHEN YOU'RE DOING A BIG DEVELOPMENT PROJECT TO PUT IN BERMS IN TERMS OF HAVING THE DIRT TO MOVE AROUND AND TO PLACE IN CERTAIN PLA UH, YOU KNOW, LOCATIONS.

UM, GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE AND, AND THE COST INVOLVED, THE, THE MOST COST EFFICIENT, AND WE THOUGHT MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WOULD BE TO, TO PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE VEGETATION THEN? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M NOTICING THERE'S JUST PINE TREES OUT THERE IS, AND, AND SO BRIAN, ARE YOU ABLE TO COME UP

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1 1 2 0 0 TINGER ROAD, PLAIN CITY, OHIO.

UH, ON A FEW DIFFERENT PLACES, THERE ARE, UH, PLACES WHERE THERE'S MULCH AND SMALLER THINGS THAT EITHER ARE PLANTED OR, OR WILL BE PLANTED, LIKE GRASSES AND THINGS TO HELP IT JUST LOOK, UH, LOOK NICE, UH, AS WELL AS A FEW TREES THAT HAVE BEEN PLANTED.

BUT THE MAIN BLOCKAGE WOULD BE THE PINE TREES BECAUSE THEY GROW WIDE.

SO THEY'LL ACTUALLY COVER, UH, OUR BELIEF IS HERE IN A COUPLE YEARS.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A NICE WALL THAT WILL BE A, A BLOCK US AND THE HOMES FOR THEIR SAKE.

I'VE JUST NOTICED THERE'S MORE VEGETATION ON ONE SIDE THAT JUST KIND OF, UH, HAS A VERY NICE LOOK.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE MORE, UH, INCLINED TO THINKING AND GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.

YOU JUST MENTIONED GRASSES THAT YOU MIGHT BE MOVING AWAY FROM.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT ELSE WOULD HAPPEN IN, DURING THOSE TWO YEARS OR SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT COULD BE, COULD HELP WITH THAT AREA? UH, I THINK I, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF I, FROM THE PICTURES WOULD BE OUR NEIGHBORS, THEIR TREES, WHICH IS THE VEGETATION, THE TREES THAT ARE THERE, OR THE BERM ON THE, THE SIDE, WHATEVER THAT IS, UH, IS MY GUESS.

SO WE ARE OPEN, UH, BUT WE DO FEEL THAT THAT WILL GROW INTO A SOLID, A SOLID WALL, WHICH IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD ASKED FOR.

BUT YOU WOULD CONSIDER KIND OF ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT AREA, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LANDSCAPED, A SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

SO LIKE, MORE GRASSES, MORE GRASSES, UM, YOU WERE MENTIONING MULCH, UM, YOUR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING A LITTLE HIGHER.

UH, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S JUST SO MANY BEAUTIFUL YARDS ON THAT SIDE.

AND SO I, I JUST WANNA SEE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, UH, LANDSCAPING THAT'S DONE.

THE TREES ARE BEAUTIFUL, THEY LOOK GREAT.

IF THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE ENHANCEMENT POSSIBILITY.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD CONSIDER? I MEAN, WE COULD PLANT MORE GRASSES.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER.

AND THEN, UM, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ONE SECOND TOO.

SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, UM, AREA WHERE THERE'S VEGETATION, IT'S UP HIGH ON THE MOUNDS, IS THAT, IS THIS A TIME TO THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME ASPHALT UP THERE, SOME WALKING AREAS, IS THAT ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT AT THE, AT YOUR MEETINGS? IS THAT ANYTHING THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY? UH, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S AT THE TOP.

IT'S JUST, THERE'S JUST DIRT.

AND I THOUGHT HERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBILITY OF MORE PEOPLE COMING AND, UH, YOU WANT PEOPLE MOVING AROUND.

IS THAT A POSSIBILITY AS WELL TOO? THE SHORT ANSWER, MS. HARDER IS NO, AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THE ENVELOPE FOR SPECTATORS AND FOR THE FIELDS THEMSELVES IS OUTSIDE OF THAT BERM AREA.

WE DID NOT, UM, WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET ON THE BERM.

WE WANTED TO KEEP THAT AS A DELINEATION BETWEEN BACKYARDS AND THE SOCCER ACTIVITIES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, SO HAVE, WHEN YOU, WHEN THERE'S THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT KIND OF ENDS IN THE BACK, THERE'S A STREET, WHAT'S ON MY MIND IS DROP OFF OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT SIGNAGE FOR THAT? I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND HOW THAT'S ADDRESSED.

IS THERE A POLICE OFFICER ON HAND THAT DIRECTS TRAFFIC? OR IS, IS THERE A NEED FOR THAT? NO, WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING LEFT AND RIGHT AND SO FORTH.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE MADE IT CLEAR IN THE CODE OF CONDUCT THAT, YOU KNOW, PARKING IS TO BE, UM, ON SITE.

UM, I THINK GIVEN THERE'S 288 SPACES PAVED ON THE SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 80 PLAYERS ESSENTIALLY DURING ANY ONE SESSION.

UM, AS, AS WE ALL, ALL OF US WHO HAVE KIDS KNOW, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR PRACTICES AND SUMMER CAMPS, YOU'RE LIKELY TO BE DROPPING OFF AND PICKING, PICKING UP, UM, PARK, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON PUBLIC STREETS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN POLICE.

WE ARE DISCOURAGING IT.

UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S A PUBLIC STREET, UM, ON THE PRIVATE, UH, ROADS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE FIND OUT ABOUT THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A VIOLATION OF THAT CODE OF CONDUCT.

AND AS I MENTIONED THE SECOND TIME, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DONE, UNFORTUNATELY.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WHEN THIS WAS, IF THIS WERE SOMETHING WHERE GAMES WERE HAPPENING, UM, ON THE SITE OR WE HAD THESE TOURNAMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, POSTING SIGNS WOULD NOT BE, UM, WHERE PERMISSIBLE WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM.

BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THIS NOW IS SOMETHING MUCH DIFFERENT AND WE DON'T BELIEVE PARKING'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE.

MAY I ASK LAST QUESTION, MAY I ASK ON SUNDAYS WHEN THERE IS CHURCH, UM, WHEN

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YEAH, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE A NEED FOR THAT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU MR. ALEXANDER.

UH, REALLY JUST ONE QUESTION, AND THIS IS MORE, IT MAY BE MORE PERTINENT FOR REPRESENTATIVE FROM DSX.

OPERATIONALLY.

HOW DOES THIS REALLY WORK? IS THERE SOME, I READ ABOUT, UM, FLAGS WILL BE PUT OUT BEFORE EVERY PRACTICE TO INDICATE WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T TO GO.

UM, WE READ ABOUT HOW THE TRASH IS GONNA BE MONITORED.

IS THERE SOMEONE GONNA BE ON SITE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THAT? GREAT QUESTION.

WE, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE AS MO HERE.

BETTER FOR HIM TO SPEAK TO IT THAN ME.

MOHAMED ZA 4 9 3 3 NORTH , WESTALL, OHIO.

UH, THEY CALL ME MO.

SO, UM, BASICALLY THE WAY THE PRACTICES, I'M NORMALLY ON SITE AT THE BEGINNING TO SET UP THE FIELDS AND DESIGNATE THE AREAS FOR DIFFERENT COACHES AT THAT COME IN.

AND THEN I'M THE LAST ONE TO LEAVE.

SO I'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WATER BOTTLES BEING LEFT AT AND TRASH BEING PICKED UP, UH, AFTER EVERY PRACTICE IN EVERY SESSION.

AND IF I'M NOT PRESENT, UM, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL BE DESIGNATED, ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

MR. DESLER FOR THE APPLICANT.

I THINK YOU HAD SAID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD IT.

SINCE THESE ARE GONNA BE PRACTICES NOW OR PROPOSED PRACTICES, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTROL ANYBODY DROPPING OFF PEOPLE ON, LIKE, LOOKING AT THE PICTURE HERE, LIKE POST PRESERVE OR, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER STREET THAT WE CAN, I CAN'T, I CAN'T.

I KNOW THE NAME OF IT, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE, THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO.

IS THAT FAIR? I, YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT'S FAIR.

AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL, WE'LL, SOME OF THIS WILL BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN IF THAT'S HAPPENING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, OBVIOUSLY THE ORGANIZATION WILL ADDRESS IT.

I THINK HUMAN NATURE IS, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHEN WE ALL GO TO THE STORE, WE'RE NOT PARKING AT THE LAST SPOT AWAY FROM THE STORE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE CLOSEST WE CAN.

SO MY EXPECTATION IS THE THE THE EASIEST PATH TO GET YOUR KIDS IN AND OUTTA HERE ARE GONNA BE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE WILL THERE BE A STRAY PERSON WHO DOES SOMETHING ELSE POSSIBLY.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, GIVEN THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE AN OVERFLOW OF PARKING HERE AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME, I THINK THAT WILL BE INFREQUENT.

YOU, YOU'D MENTIONED A LOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WATCHING, BUT PRACTICES, GENERALLY IT'S, I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S JUST GONNA BE DROP OFF WHAT A PRACTICE IS RUN AN HOUR AND A HALF, GENERALLY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO TYPICALLY EACH PRACTICE IS AN HOUR AND A HALF, UH, PER, PER GROUP.

AND, UH, MOST OF THE TIME RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE JUST DROP OFF THEIR KIDS.

THEY LEAVE, THEY COME, THEY MIGHT BE, IF THERE'S 80 KIDS, THERE MIGHT BE EIGHT CARS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STAYING AND ACTUALLY WATCHING.

ESPECIALLY, UH, THE YOUNGER ONES, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 70, 80 YEAR OLDS.

SO THOSE PARENTS, MOST OF THE TIME THERE'S A FEW OF THEM ARE STAYING IN THE PARKING LOT.

BUT, UM, WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS, IT'S PROBABLY THE CLOSEST AREA TO COME TO THE FIELDS.

SO I WOULD THINK EVERYBODY WOULD COME THERE.

BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A STREET PERSON, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

BUT WE WILL ONCE WE FIND THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, IMPOSE THE CODE OF CONTACT, BUT WE EXPECT THE COMMUNICATION TO GO WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING INTO THE MAIN PARKING LOT, DROPPING THEIR KIDS OFF.

'CAUSE THERE'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE, UH, FOR US AS COACHES BECAUSE WE BECOME THE GUARDIAN OF THAT PARENT ONCE THEY GET DROPPED OFF.

BACK FOR THE APPLICANT.

CAN, UH, YOU HAD SHOWN US A LOT OF PHOTOS OF OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE, UM, LIKE SOCCER.

I THINK YOU SHOWED AVERY KAUFMAN, JEROME, RIGHT? RIGHT.

THOSE ARE ALL, THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS, RIGHT.

FOR PUBLIC USE.

THIS IS A PRIVATE INSTITUTION, RIGHT? IT IS.

SO THERE'S TWO OF THOSE THAT WE BELIEVE ARE WITHIN A PUD.

AND DO YOU KNOW, IN THOSE OTHER INSTANCES, WASN'T THE PARK AREA THERE BEFORE THERE WA WERE ANY HOMES? UM, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I DO KNOW, KNOW THAT AT LEAST, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH SITE IT WAS.

IT WAS IN A PUD, SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN PART OF A MASTER PLAN.

UM, MUIRFIELD, I THINK PUD MAYBE SARAH MAYBE.

DO YOU KNOW?

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UH, JEROME IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM.

UM, I KNOW THAT THAT HAS COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, FOR THOSE SPORTS FIELDS WHERE JEROME HIGH SCHOOL WAS MM-HMM .

RIGHT? MM-HMM .

BUT THAT LAND WAS ZONED FOR A SCHOOL FOR MANY YEARS.

WITH SPORTS FIELDS.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT YEP.

DIFFERENT COMPARISON.

YEP.

ALRIGHT.

AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS SITE WAS ZONED VERSUS WHEN THOSE HOMES WENT IN, BUT YOU KNOW, PARKS AND PLAY FIELDS ARE PERMITTED, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT, IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHURCH USE.

THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, THE UNIQUE CONDITION HERE.

WELL, YEAH.

LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.

SO IT'S YOUR, IT'S YOUR POSITION THAT IF THE CHURCH WASN'T THERE AND THAT WAS JUST LAND, THAT YOU COULD PUT WHATEVER YOU WANTED ON IT FROM A PARK PERSPECTIVE? THAT'S RIGHT.

AND WOULD THAT BE A PRIVATE PARK OR WOULD IT BE A PUBLIC PARK? WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF PARK IS DEFINED IN THE CODE AS, AS BEING PUBLIC, BUT IT DOES SAY PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, AND PLAY FIELDS.

SO, UM, IT DOESN'T SAY PUBLIC PLAY FIELDS, IT JUST SAYS PLAY FIELDS.

DOES IT SAY PLAY FIELDS THAT WHERE YOU RECEIVE MONEY FOR, FOR, FOR ALLOWING LEASING OR RENTING OF THE FIELD? NO.

CAN YOU GIVE ME ANYWHERE IN THE CITY WHERE THERE'S A, A, A PRIVATE LAND ASKING FOR, I GUESS THIS COMMERCIALIZED USE? AND BECAUSE THE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE ME ARE ALL PUBLIC, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET.

THERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE YOU WANT TO BRING FORTH FROM MY CONSIDERATION.

SPORTS, SPORTS OHIO.

SPORTS OHIO THINKS OWNED BY THE CITY THOUGH NOW IT WASN'T.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

IT IS NOW, BUT PREVIOUSLY IT WAS PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE WERE ANY HOMES ABUTTING UP TO, FROM A RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, THE SPORTS OHIO FIELDS AND COMPLEX.

I MEAN, THIS, THIS, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT THIS IS SOME SORT OF A FOR-PROFIT VENTURE.

THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, PAYMENT IN EXCHANGE FOR MAINTENANCE AND, AND, AND IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE FRANKLY, QUITE A BIT OF AN INVESTMENT FROM THE CHURCH'S PART HERE WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE COMMITTING TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO RECOUP HERE.

I KNOW, AND I, I DO APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO REEVALUATE IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND AND COMPLY WITH THE, THE CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE, WERE PRESENTED.

ARE YOU, HAVE YOU DONE ANY KIND OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THE HOMES WITH THE CURRENT USE COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED SOCCER USE? WE HAVE NOT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, THOUGH.

THANK YOU MR. GARVIN.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.

UM, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS AROUND THE CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATIONS.

UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS FOR RECORDING VIOLATIONS? AND, UH, I GUESS SIMILAR QUESTION, WHERE WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR PEOPLE WHO NOTICE VIOLATIONS SUBMIT THOSE TO YOU? I THINK THE SUBMISSIONS WILL GO TOWARDS THE CHURCH IF THERE IS ANY VIOLATION OF PEOPLE'S GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE CHURCH WILL RELAY IT TO US, AND WE WILL THEN LET THE FAMILIES KNOW THAT THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY SORT OF REVIEW OR WOULD A REPORTED VIOLATION, VIOLATION SUBJECT SOMEBODY TO THE REPORT WILL BE THE FIRST OFFENSE AND THEN THE SECOND OFFENSE IS THIS DISMISSAL? YEP.

BEAR WITH ME FOR A MINUTE AS I'M LOOKING UP THIS LOCATION, IF YOU HAVE, IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS WHERE I CAN PULL THIS UP AND MOVE, THAT'S MY LAST QUESTION.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS THE STAFF HAS, UH, KIND OF PUSHED US TOWARDS THIS OPERATIONAL PLAN IS THEY CAN BE THE CONDUIT FOR THOSE COMPLAINTS AS WELL AND GET THOSE TO US.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S REPEATED VIOLATIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THE CHURCH IS SUBJECT TO FINES, UM, STOP, STOP, UH, STOPPING OPERATIONS ULTIMATELY IF THEY DON'T COMPLY.

AND SO REALLY THE TEETH IN ALL OF THIS IS THROUGH THE CITY STAFF'S COMPLIANCE ARM.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

UM, AND FOR STAFF, I JUST, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER DESLER BROUGHT UP THE, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE DICHOTOMY THERE.

UM, AND IT MADE ME THINK OF ST.

BRIDGET'S AS KIND OF A CHURCH USE AND PRIVATE USE.

IS, IS THAT A SIMILAR SITUATION FROM THE ATHLETIC STANDPOINT? ABUTTING THE HOMES THERE, IN YOUR OPINION? AND IF SO, ARE THERE STIPULATIONS RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR USE?

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IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE ON, KIM, WE CAN COME BACK.

UM, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF THE COMPARISON OF NUMBER OF PRACTICES HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE SCHEDULE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED, IS THAT A TYPICAL KIND OF PRACTICE SCHEDULE THAT WE, WE WOULD SEE AT OTHER FACILITIES AROUND THE CITY? UH, YES.

THAT'S A TYPICAL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO, JUST BECAUSE WE KIND OF SPREAD IT OUT TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK ON MR. GARVIN'S QUESTION.

THAD OR SARAH , UM, IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, UM, THE APPLICANT COULD LOSE THE, THE CONDITIONAL USE AND, AND, AND I THINK, UM, MR. UNDERHILL SAID THE SAME THING THAT IT COULD, THAT'S THE, THE STOP GAP IS IF THEY'RE NOT LIVING UP TO ANY OF THE TERMS THAT THE CONDI CONDITIONAL USE COULD BE TAKEN AWAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? ULTIMATELY? YES.

I, I KNOW MR. DALE MENTIONED FINES AND, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I, THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR, OUR BASIC THING IS THE, IS THE CONDITIONAL USE AND, AND IF, AND AND GRANTING THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THEN, UM, FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE TERMS OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND ANY, ANY COMPLAINTS WOULD BE VERIFIED AND WOULD GO THROUGH THE STANDARD CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

MR. BOGGS, HAVE YOU FOUND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR YET? I HAVE.

AND SO I THINK, UH, TO MR. GARVIN'S QUESTION, UH, SPECIFIC TO ST.

BRIDGES, THAT IS PART OF A PUD, UM, WHICH THAT, SO IT WOULD HAVE ITS DEVELOPMENT TEXT THAT USE WOULD'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE REZONING TO ADOPT THAT PUD.

UM, BASED ON THE, BASED ON THE ORDINANCE NUMBER, UH, FOR THAT, THAT SHOWS UP ON DUB DISCOVERY.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DONE IN 2010.

WHEREAS THE, UM, ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS DUBLIN SHIRE, LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD HAVE PRECEDED THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN 1992.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? SORRY.

UM, JUST ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT.

SO HOW MANY COMPLAINTS WOULD THEY NEED TO THEN SAY YOU'RE DONE? I MEAN, IS IT ALL UP TO THEM TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? CODE ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATES EVERY COMPLAINT TO, UM, TO CONFIRM THEM MM-HMM .

AND INVESTIGATE THEM, AND MAYBE MR. BOGGS HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

SO CODE ENFORCEMENT ESSENTIALLY IS THE ZONING POLICE, RIGHT? THEY MM-HMM .

UH, RECEIVE COMPLAINTS, THEY INVESTIGATE THEM.

THEIR OBJECTIVE IS TO GET PEOPLE INTO COMPLIANCE, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE THIS APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNER OR PROPERTY USER IN THE CITY.

AND SO THERE'S A PROCESS TO IT.

THERE ARE STEPS BEGINNING WITH A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, UM, THE APPLICANT TAKING VOLUNTARY COLLECTIVE CORRECTIVE ACTION.

IF THAT IS UNFRUITFUL, THEN IT GOES TO MAYOR'S, COURT CITATION CAN GO TO ENVIRONMENTAL COURT, UM, INJUNCTION, WHICH WOULD IN, YOU KNOW, COULD INCLUDE THE PERMANENT, UH, REMEDY NOT TO RESUME THE USE.

OR IF THEY DO RESUME THE USE, THAT THEN THE CONDITIONS WOULD BECOME ENFORCEABLE AS PART OF A COURT ORDER WHERE VIOLATING THEM BRINGS IN CONTEMPT SANCTIONS AND FINES.

AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, LEVERS THAT CAN BE PULLED AT

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PART OF THAT PROCESS.

APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO NOW OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT AND THOSE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT.

PLEASE COME TO THE DAAS, TURN ON THE SPEAKER, WHICH IS ON RIGHT NOW.

STATE YOUR NAME AND THREE MINUTES.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN WAY, RON O'BRIEN.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ON THE PERIMETER OF WHERE THIS, UH, FOUR SOCCER FIELDS, UH, ARE PROPOSED.

I SPOKE, UH, HERE IN, UH, MARCH, AND, UH, THE COMMISSION ENCOURAGED THE CHURCH TO MEET WITH US, TALK TO US, AND THEY FAILED TO DO THAT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE THIS RECORD CLEAR.

MS. HOLT CONTACTED ME.

MS. HOLT CONTACTED MR. UNDERHILL AND CONVENE PEOPLE.

NOT ONCE HAS THE CHURCH REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THESE KIND OF THINGS.

UH, SECONDLY, I JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF, UH, RUPPA HAVING BEEN RAISED.

AND AS A RESULT, I, UH, SENT, UH, INTO MS. HOLT, UH, UH, SOMEWHAT TARDY, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST, UH, RAISED, UH, A, UH, COUPLE CASES THAT CLEARLY INDICATE THAT, UH, RUPPA DOESN'T PREVENT THIS, UH, COMMISSION FROM DENYING THE, UH, PERMIT.

UH, UH, IF I COULD ASK ALSO, UH, MS. HOLT, I TOOK A SERIES OF PHOTOGRAPHS.

UH, IT'S HARD AS THEY TALK ABOUT THE SCREENING, UH, THAT THEY HAVE PLANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND I TOOK, UM, PROBABLY IN JUNE SERIES, ABOUT 10 OR 15 PHOTO PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHOW THAT FROM PROBABLY THE ENTRANCE OF THIS ROOM TO, TO MOST OF THESE FOLKS' PATIO, THERE'S LITERALLY NO SCREENING, NO LANDSCAPING, NO BUFFERING.

AND IF I COULD ASK YOU TO SHOW THOSE, UH, PHOTOS ON THIS, UH, SCREEN, MS UH, HOL THOSE PHOTOS IN THAT PACKET WAS INCLUDED IN THEIR DOCUMENTS.

SANTO 6 9 0 8 POST LAKE COURT.

WELL, THE COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE 'EM THAT THERE WAS A GROUP, THERE'S 15 OR 17, YOU CAN SEE, UH, STANDING OUT WHERE THE F SOCCER FIELDS WOULD BE, UH, A HUNDRED FEET, UH, FROM, FROM, UH, THESE FOLKS' PATIO.

UH, THERE'S LITERALLY NO SCREENING.

UH, THE, THE SCREENING ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT LOT ARE, UH, TREES.

I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY, UH, THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE PLANTED 25 YEARS AGO.

AND AS INDICATED, THEY CLEARLY PROVIDE GOOD SCREENING NOW, BUT THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE IT THEN.

UH, I, UH, WENT TO AVERY PARK A WEEK AGO ON SATURDAY, AND, UH, TOOK PICTURES, UH, THERE THAT ARE PART OF THE PACKET THAT WAS SUBMITTED TODAY.

AND YOU CAN QUITE CLEARLY SEE, NUMBER ONE, THAT ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE SCREENED BETTER THAN, UH, UH, THE SCREENING ON THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE LOT THAT WAS THERE 25 YEARS.

UH, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, AS I HAVE INDICATED, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGE FROM WHAT YOU HEARD IN MARCH OTHER THAN THE TOURNAMENTS.

UH, THE PRACTICES ARE LITERALLY FROM MARCH UNTIL NOVEMBER, INTERVENING WITH THE CAMP.

SO LITERALLY SIX DAYS A WEEK, THESE FOLKS HAVE SOCCER PRACTICES IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD.

IF PRACTICES ARE AN HOUR AND A HALF, SOME OF THESE WINDOWS ARE, UH, THREE HOURS.

SO YOU HAVE TWO GROUPS OF TEAMS COMING IN, AT LEAST UNDER AS PROPOSED, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE 80 KIDS COMING IN FOR, UH, THE FIRST PART OF THE PRACTICE, THEM LEAVING TRAFFIC ISSUES, 80 MORE COMING IN.

AND IT'S JUST A CONSTANT INTENSIVE USE IN THESE FOLKS' BACKYARD FROM MARCH UNTIL NOVEMBER.

AND I WOULDN'T WANT IT, I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD WANT IT.

AND, UH, I THINK THERE WERE 25 PEOPLE THAT IF THEY'RE NOT HERE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER THEIR VIEWS FROM THE MINUTE.

BUT QUITE CLEARLY, UH, UH, THERE IS, UM, NO CONDITIONAL USE THAT DOESN'T SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT THE PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS, MR. SONY, WHO TESTIFIED HERE EARLIER, SAID HIS REALTOR HAD TOLD HIM TO GET OUTTA TOWN FAST.

HE HAS, HE SOLD HIS HOUSE.

I DIDN'T ASK HIM WHETHER THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN COST, BUT HE'S ON THE WEST SIDE AND HE SOLD HIS HOUSE AND, UH, IS NOW GONE.

AND, UH, I JUST HATE TO SEE FOLKS WHO CAME TO DUBLIN LOVE IT HERE, HAVING STUCK IN THEIR BACKYARD BY THE CITY GRANTING THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOUR SOCCER FIELDS WITH, UH, UH, THE KIND OF INTENSIVE USE THAT EXISTS.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, YOU MAY HAVE.

I SEE THE, UH, THANK YOU MR. O'BRIEN.

APPRECIATE IT.

LIGHT FLASHING, , WE'RE NOT TAKING QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

THIS IS JUST THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY

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AND, UH, IF YOU SEE THE MAP, 6 9 0 8 POST LAKE COURT, THAT'S ONE OF THE CUL-DE-SAC.

AND THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE WE WILL SEE A LOT OF CAR PARKED.

AND IF I TAKE 80, UH, CAMPERS EVERY SESSION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO 40 CAMPERS EVERY DAY ARE GETTING PACKED, ARE GETTING DROPPED OFF.

AND WE WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TARGETED PLAYERS TO DROP THE KIDS BECAUSE THAT'S A CUL-DE-SAC, AND THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE FOR THEM TO GET TO THE GROUND.

AND THAT'S LY CREATES A PROBLEM FOR US.

AND MOST IMPORTANT THING IS IT'S MY HOME FOR LIFE.

I DON'T WANT TO BE MONITORING IT EVERY DAY FOR NEARLY SIX TO NINE MONTHS.

AND I SINCERELY REQUEST, IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN HOME AND YOU'RE HAVING A FOOTBALL GROUND RIGHT BEHIND YOU, WOULD YOU BE CONSIDERING THAT? SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.

IT'S A SINCERE REQUEST.

THAT'S ALL.

I'M DAVID CLEVELAND, 6 9 8 8 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

HI THERE.

UM, PRETTY MUCH JUST GONNA SAY WHAT I SAID LAST TIME.

THE, UH, THE CHURCH COMING AND PROPOSING SOCCER FIELDS IS NOT THE PROBLEM.

THEY'VE HAD A SOCCER FIELD THERE FOR, FOR YEARS, AND WE'VE NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.

WHAT THIS IS, IS THE CHURCH LEASING THIS LAND, ESSENTIALLY TO A CORPORATION.

AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, TO ME, IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM ANY DIFFERENT THAN IF SPORTS OHIO CAME AND SAID THEY WANNA OPEN UP A BUSINESS ON AN EMPTY AREA OF LAND IN DUBLIN.

I WOULD ASSUME DUBLIN HAS DIFFERENT RULES FOR LIKE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS TO OPEN IT.

UH, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE, THE MOUNDING.

THAT WAS THE FIRST THING WHEN WE DID FIRST MEET WITH THEM ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR SO, THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED IS, CAN WE PUT A MOUND ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTIES? AND AGAIN, THEY, THEY DID SAY, THEY LOOKED INTO IT AND IT WAS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO DO.

SO THAT WAS THE, THE VERY FIRST THING THAT, THAT I THOUGHT IS WE COULD REALLY MAKE IT SO YOU COULD MOUND IT.

SO YOU WOULDN'T EVEN SEE A LOT OF THESE KIDS.

THERE'S, THERE IS ALREADY A MOUND FOR SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT FOR A LOT OF US, IT'S GONNA BE A DIRECT VIEW RIGHT INTO THAT SOCCER FIELD.

UM, THE OTHER THING I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE IS THE CITY OF DUBLIN OWNS SOME LAND CONNECTED TO THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IF YOU WANNA BRING UP THE MAP BEFORE THE CITY OF DUBLIN HAS LAND RIGHT THERE.

AND SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME AND DROP THEIR KIDS OFF ON STILLHOUSE.

THAT'S THE HOUSE, THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NORTH THAT YOU, THANK YOU.

THE, UH, DUBLIN OWNS THAT LITTLE PIECE OF LAND.

IF YOU LOOK IN THE VERY TOP OF THAT PICTURE THERE, AND IT'S CONNECTED TO A BIKE PATH, BUT ON, ON SPRING VIEW LANE UP THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PUBLIC ROAD.

PEOPLE WILL JUST DROP THEIR KID OFF AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA WALK ON THAT LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

THERE'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A GRASS THERE.

'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE SOCCER FIELDS IS GONNA BE WAY CLOSER THAN ALL THE WAY DOWN PARKING DOWN HERE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S OUR CONCERN IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE THE, THE MINIVAN DROP OFF RIGHT ON SPRING VIEW LANE.

AND AGAIN, THESE, THE, THE FAMILIES AND THE KIDS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTIES.

THEY'LL JUST BE ABLE TO GO RIGHT THROUGH THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S LAND TO GET TO THAT.

AND AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, UH, I MEAN, WE HATE TO BE THE POLICEMAN, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HI, MY NAME IS ANIL MICHA.

I AM, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 69 24 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

UM, ON THAT PHOTOS THAT YOU SAW, UH, I THINK ON THE IMAGE NUMBER TWO, THAT WAS MY HOUSE THERE.

SO I THINK I, WE WERE HERE, UH, IN MARCH ALSO, AND I HAD MADE THE SAME COMMENT THAT I'M A DEEPLY RELIGIOUS MAN, AND IF THIS HAS GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE RELIGION, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN HERE.

YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT JUST NOW, HE, UH, ASSERTED THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT THAT IF THIS WAS BEING DONE FOR RELIGIOUS PURPOSE, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES.

PLEASE GO AHEAD AND BELT IT.

BUT THIS IS A PRIVATE CONGLOMERATE COMING AND THEY ARE JUST GOING TO RENT IT OUT FOR MONEY.

IF IT WASN'T THE CASE, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DEBATING AT ALL.

ZERO.

AND JUST AS MR. JASON COUNCILMAN JASON SAID, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES, PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN, UH, THEY, THERE WERE PLACES THAT WERE BEING USED AS PARK OR BEING USED FOR THOSE THINGS, AND THEN HOUSES WERE BUILT AROUND THAT WITH AND WITH THE PURPOSE THAT PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THOSE HOUSES, THEY KNEW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO IT.

WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS THING, THERE WAS NEVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS UP UNTIL NOW, AND I WOULD NOT THINK THAT ANY OF US WOULD WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN OUR BACKYARD.

OH, MY NAME IS GARISH URA.

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I LIVE IN 7 1 5 1 SPRING VIEW LANE, DUBLIN, OHIO.

SO THIS IS ABOUT WHAT MR. BOX TOLD ABOUT ENFORCING THE COURT OF CONDUCT.

UH, LOOKS LIKE WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT ENFORCING THE COURT OF CONDUCT WOULD MEANS REPORTING THE VIOLATIONS, THEN EVENTUALLY GOING UP TO THE COURT, GETTING UP, YOU KNOW, A STAY ORDER.

SO THIS IS NOT GONNA BE AN EASY PROCESS, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

SO LONG AS CHURCH CAN USE IT, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM MAKE USE OF THE LAND.

THAT'S GREAT.

THE, IN THE INTENSITY, THE SCREENING IS INSUFFICIENT, THE INTENSITY IS VERY HIGH, AND ENFORCEMENT IS THE ONE THAT IS REALLY GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

SO THESE ARE THE THREE MAIN THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY A PROBLEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY AND SAY, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, INCREASE THE SCREENING, INCREASE THE INTENSITY, HAVE A, A STRICT, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT OF CODE.

I DO NOT KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO THE COURT.

AND IF IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT IT, THEN IT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE.

MY NAME IS JILL CHEN.

I LIVE AT 69 16 POST PRESERVER BOULEVARD.

UH, MY HOUSE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ONES THAT BACK RIGHT UP TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOCCER FIELDS.

FORTUNATELY, PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND AND I PUT SOME ARBOR UP, SO IT KIND OF BLOCKS IT.

BUT I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, UM, MY HUSBAND AND I LIKE TO SPEND TIME WHEN OUR PATIO, UM, ESPECIALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE SUMMER SPRING MONTHS, UM, WE'D LIKE TO BE ON THE PATIO, COOKING OUT, HAVE FRIENDS OVER WHATEVER, LISTEN TO MUSIC.

UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MARCH TO NOVEMBER.

WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET A CHANCE TO BE ON OUR PATIO WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE KIDS SCREAMING WHERE YOU EITHER HAVE A CAMP OR YOU HAVE PRACTICE.

UM, WHEN WE MOVED IN THERE, WE KNEW THAT THE CHURCH WAS GOING TO BUILD THERE.

UM, OUR HOUSE WASN'T QUITE, IT WASN'T BUILT YET.

THE CHURCH HADN'T GONE IN YET.

WE KNEW THAT IT WAS GONNA BE A CHURCH PROPERTY.

WE KNEW THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE USED FOR RELIGIOUS PURPOSES, WHETHER THEY HAD EVENTS, FAIRS, WHATEVER.

NEVER WOULD WE HAVE BOUGHT THERE IF WE KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE USED AS A ENTERPRISE FOR SOCCER TO HAVE A SOCCER CAMP.

YOU KNOW, UM, YOU'RE TALKING LITERALLY EVERY DAY FROM MARCH TO NOVEMBER.

I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU, WOULD YOU WANT THAT IN YOUR BACKYARD EVERY DAY FROM MARCH TO NOVEMBER? KIDS SCREAMING.

YEAH, THEY TOOK AWAY THE TOURNAMENT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECTATORS, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING ALL THE TIME.

KIDS SCREAMING, LITERALLY AGAIN, MARCH TO NOVEMBER.

I JUST ASK YOU, WOULD YOU WANT THAT IN YOUR BACKYARD? THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO TESTIFY? THE MICROPHONE IS ON AND ING SIX NINE FIVE SIX POST PRESERVER BOULEVARD.

UM, I SAID THIS SAME THING, UH, BACK IN MARCH AS WELL.

AND I, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, I AM ALL UP FOR SOCCER FIELD, NOTHING AGAINST SOCCER OR, UH, CHURCH ACTIVITIES, BUT IF THEY CAN APPROACHED THIS AS A COMMERCIAL PROPOSAL, I WOULD'VE BEEN MORE HAPPIER TO SEE THE APPROACH.

BUT, AND NOT ONLY THAT, I WAS INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING WITH CHURCH IN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS, EVERYTHING, WHATEVER THEY SAY VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT RIGHT, BECAUSE IF I TALK ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING, THEY TRY TO DO IT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DOING THE TREES THEY PLANTED, THEY WERE JUST SMALL PLANTS, NOT TREES.

AND IT TAKES AT LEAST 15 YEARS BEFORE THEY EVEN BE CONSIDERED AS A TREE.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, WHATEVER THAT CAN DO TO THE LANDSCAPE IS NOTHING.

AND IT'LL NOT DO ANYTHING TO PROTECT, UH, ANY, UH, OBJECTS COMING TOWARDS OUR PEOPLE, MOVING BETWEEN, UH, DROPPING THE KIDS OVER ON OUR STREETS AND GOING IN.

THE NEXT THING IS INTENSITY FROM THE DAY ONE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, PEOPLE CROSSING THROUGH THE YARDS.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

WITH ALL THOSE THINGS IN MIND, I STRONGLY REQUEST YOU TO, UH, CONSIDER NOT TO APPROVE THIS.

I'M RYAN NEREN, UH, 82 11 TIMBER FALLS DRIVE.

I THINK MR. DESLER, YOU ASKED ABOUT A SCENARIO WHERE, UH, A NEIGHBORHOOD HAD BEEN BACKED UP, PROPERTY THAT GOT REZONED AND THEN IS NOW INTENSIVELY USED.

I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK FURTHER THAN BISHOP ELEMENTARY.

140 FOOT, UH, ENVELOPE TO THE NEAREST

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BACKYARDS.

AND I THINK THEY HAD SIMILARLY PUT UP SCREENING AT, AT THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

IT'S A ONE ROW OF PINE TREES.

SO I, I DO THINK THERE'S PRECEDENCE THERE.

UM, THE OTHER THING, I'M GONNA REMIND THAT EVERYONE, IT SEEMS IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR, BUT DSX IS A REGISTERED 5 0 1 3 C NONPROFIT.

SO THIS IS NOT A, A CLUB THAT'S OUT TRYING TO TURN A PROPHET AND ENDEAVOR TO TURN THIS, UH, CHURCH'S GROUND INTO A PROFIT CENTER.

I'M A RESIDENT OF 69 81 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE POST PRESERVE STREET.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GUIDE THE SPIRIT OF THE CHURCH OF CARE, COMPASSION AND COMMUNITY.

WHAT MAKES OUR HOUSES AND HOMES AND NOT JUST BUILDINGS, IS THAT SENSE OF SAFETY.

SAFETY AND SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHERE WE KNOW EACH OTHER.

YOUR PARENTS OF YOUR YOUNG CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY ANXIOUS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE NEW COMMUNITY.

WE DO NOT WANT TO LIVE WITH THE SAME ANXIETIES OF THE PARENTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN, WHERE WE KNOW THAT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC OF VEHICLES AND A LOT OF INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC WITH REALLY, THUS STRANGERS WOULD BE IMPACTING OUR SENSE OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE ALSO VERY WORRIED ABOUT HOW IT WILL CHANGE THE RHYTHM OF OUR SUBURBAN COMMUNITY LIFE WHERE WE MOVED TWO YEARS AGO AS FAMILY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, PURELY WITH A SINGLE FACTOR OF HAVING A BACKYARD THAT IS SAFE AND SECURE FOR OUR CHILDREN, WHERE THEY COULD BE A LITTLE BIT UNSUPERVISED.

THAT IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY DISRUPTED FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FOR US AS FAMILIES.

SO I'D LIKE TO REALLY REQUEST THE CHURCH AND THE PLANNERS TO THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE GONNA BE THERE AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME, WHO PROBABLY DO NOT HAVE AN OPTION TO GET OUT OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY BUILDING OUR FAMILIES AND LIVES RIGHT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS RA MAOLI, UH, 6 9 4 0 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

UM, I'M HERE TO BASICALLY REQUEST THE CITY TO NOT APPROVE THIS, UM, APPLICATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IN MARCH, MOST OF YOU REQUESTED THE APPLICATION APPLICANT TO DECREASE THE INTENSITY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT DOESN'T SHOW SHOW THAT IT, IT, THEY HAVE DECREASED THE INTENSITY, THE NUMBER OF PRACTICES THAT WILL HAPPEN FROM MARCH TO NUMBERS, SUMMER CAMPS, THE NUMBER OF KIDS, THE HOURS OF PRACTICES IN THE EVENING HOURS ESPECIALLY, DOESN'T SHOW THE INTENSITY HAS GONE DOWN.

THE OTHER REQUEST THAT WAS MADE WAS TO ADD SCREENING THE TREES.

THE PICTURES THAT YOU CAN SEE CERTAINLY SHOWS THAT THERE'S NO SCREENING THERE.

AS SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID, THESE TREES, IF YOU CALL THEM TREES, IF THEY'RE THERE PLANTED, WILL TAKE AT LEAST 10, 15 OR 20 YEARS TO REALLY FORM A SCREEN.

THAT'S A LONG TIME BEFORE, UM, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

THE THIRD PIECE IS, UM, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, MR. ALEXANDER TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT AT HIS CHURCH HE HAS SEEN PATRONS NOT PARKING, PARKING ON THE STREETS, PUBLIC STREETS OR PRIVATE STREETS, AND THEN JUST WALKING ACROSS.

SAME THING IS GONNA HAPPEN HERE, EXPECTING THE RESIDENTS TO BE THE POLICE OF THE CODE OF CONTACT, CALL THE CITY OR THE CHURCH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OUR FILE COMPLAINTS IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO EXPECT.

HELLO, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER DURIAN.

I'M ON 5 3 9 3 HAVERHILL DRIVE IN DUBLIN.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, UM, I AM A FAMILY MEMBER OF A, UM, A SOCCER PLAYER AND, UM, I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE SEEN SOCCER AROUND THIS TOWN FOR MANY YEARS.

THE KIDS ARE VERY RESPECTFUL.

THEY'RE NOT LOUD, THEY'RE NOT OBNOXIOUS.

I THINK THE COACHES, ESPECIALLY FOR DSX, THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR, ARE VERY, UM, VERY MUCH RESPONSIBLE AND VERY MUCH IN CHARGE OF THE KIDS.

AND THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE NOT, UM, GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

NO ONE ELSE HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT SOCCER AND OTHER, ANY OTHER AVERY PARK OR ANY OTHER, UM, UH, FIELDS AROUND HERE.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD JUST WANTED TO ADD TOO IS I HAVE, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE SOME OF THE VEGETATION AROUND AND THE TREES AND SUCH TOO, I HAVE RECENTLY ADDED ARBOR PROVIDEE TO MY, MY BACKYARD, AND IT DOES GROW PRETTY QUICKLY.

UM, IT'S ALSO A GREAT DIVIDER AS WELL.

SO JUST SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER, UM, AS YOU GUYS, UH, REVIEW THIS.

ANY OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO, UH, STEP TO THE PODIUM TONIGHT?

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I'M GONNA COUNT IT DOWN.

GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

WE ARE, UM, DONE WITH THE PUBLIC INPUT PART OF THE PROCESS, AND WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION NOW FOR DELI DELIBERATION.

DID YOU WANNA ASK FOR WE HAVE ANY ONLINE? UH, YES.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. LER.

KEEP ME ON TRACK.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S START OVER TO THE RIGHT.

I KNOW MR. CHINOOK , IF YOU COULD KICK US OFF WITH OUR, OUR DISCUSSION.

YEAH, SO I, I GUESS I'LL START.

OBVIOUSLY, THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC SHOWING UP AND THE COMMENTS ARE OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO US.

WE TAKE THEM, UM, SERIOUSLY.

UM, BUT I GUESS AS WE CONSIDER THIS, UM, TRYING TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, UM, I THINK THE EXPECTATION THAT THIS WONDERFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY IS GONNA REMAIN AS IS, IS, IS CHALLENGING.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A BUILT, UM, ENVIRONMENT OR SOME OTHER PROPOSAL.

UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF PUT THIS A BIT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

AND I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, WE NEED TO GIVE THE ORGANIZATION THE DFX AND RADIANT, UH, A BIT MORE CREDIT.

I THINK THEY HAVE PROVISIONS IN PLACE.

I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

UH, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A FREE FOR ALL OF KIDS JUST RUNNING AROUND UNCONTROLLED.

UM, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST CONSIDER SOME OF THAT THAT'S IN PLACE ORGANIZATION.

UM, AND THE RESPONSIBILITY AS THE COACH MENTIONED, UM, THEY, THEY TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE KIDS AND THE BEHAVIOR.

AND I, I DO, I THINK THAT THE PROVISIONS IN PLACE, UM, WILL, WILL GO A LONG WAY TO KEEP THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED AND NOT, UM, I THINK THE PERCEPTION THAT THIS IS JUST GONNA BE, UH, LOUD AND OUTTA CONTROL AND, UM, PERHAPS PEOPLE NOT FOLLOWING RULES IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE REALLY, WHAT THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO.

UM, AND SCREENING SOCCER FIELDS AND SCREENING FIELDS AND THESE FIELDS THAT ARE GONNA BE OPEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN USE, I THINK IT'S NICE THAT THE, THE CHURCH COULD EASILY PUT A FENCE AROUND IT AND RESTRICT THAT.

SO I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT I JUST KIND OF, JUST CONSIDERING ALL THOSE OTHER O OTHER SCENARIOS OF WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE IS SOCCER FIELDS, NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AN EXPANSION OF THE CHURCH OR PARKING OR SOMETHING ELSE.

THAT, AND AGAIN, OPEN TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD TO USE.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU, MS. HUGGER.

THANK YOU EVERYONE ATTENDING.

UM, IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO ALL OF US UP HERE.

UM, AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED.

UM, I AM, I'M DISAPPOINTED IN ABOUT THE, UH, PART OF THE BUFFERING.

I THINK THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE DONE IN THAT AREA TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, IT IS, UM, BEAUTIFUL YARDS BACK THERE.

I ALSO THINK THERE'S NEEDS TO BE SENSITIVITY ABOUT THE PICKUP AREA, UM, AND HOW CLOSE THAT IS, AND BRINGING IT TO ATTENTION ABOUT THE, THE DOUBLE AND STRIP THERE.

'CAUSE THERE IS A STRIP THERE AND IT'S EASY TO DROP THEM OFF.

SO THEN WHEN THE CODE OF CONDUCT IS COMING INTO PLAY, THAT NEEDS TO BE A VERY STRONG AND UM, WAY THAT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHOEVER'S BRINGING IT FORWARD, IT'S NOT SO COSTLY TO THEM TO BRING IT UP AS WELL TOO.

SO IF THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT TO COURT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE ON SOMEBODY.

SO IT'S THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE CHURCH ALL ALONG IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S ALSO MAYBE BRINGING IN THE CODE EN ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE JUST TO HAVE GOOD DIALOGUE SO IT DOESN'T EVEN GET TO THAT, WHICH WOULD BE VERY INSTRUMENTAL, UM, FOR, FOR THE FAMILIES THAT ARE THERE AS WELL TOO.

BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT SPACE DOESN'T GET SOLD AND DOESN'T GET SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT.

BUT, UM, AND AGAIN, THERE ARE THINGS THAT GROW, UM, VERY FAST TOO, ALONG WITH THOSE PINE TREES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THINKING OUTTA THE BOX ABOUT THAT WOULD HAVE REALLY HELPED, UH, I THINK ALONG THE WAY, UM, WITH, WITH THE BUFFERING AND VEGETATION OF PLANTS TOO, UM, IN THERE.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I WISH YOU ALL WOULD'VE MET MORE.

I WISH YOU ALL WOULD'VE OF HAD MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THE NITTY GRITTY OF THINGS.

BUT THERE WAS A MEETING AND THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S NOT FIVE, IT'S FOUR.

UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE STIPULATIONS, UM, ARE IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL TOO.

UM, SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT'S INADEQUATE.

THANK YOU, MS. HAR.

MR. ALEXANDER, UH, THIS IS KIND OF CHALLENGING, BUT I DO APPLAUD THE APPLICANT FOR THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.

UM, THERE'S CODE OF CONDUCT.

I AGREE.

THE CURRENT PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BUFFERING,

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SO INTRODUCING MORE BUFFERING I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

UM, WE'VE ALSO INCREASED THE SETBACKS AND SOMETIMES OUR SETBACK NUMBERS ARE REALLY DECEPTIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM PROPERTY LINES, NOT THE FACE OF THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.

SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY LARGER THAN WHAT WHAT WE POST.

UM, IT REDUCED THE NUMBER OF FIELDS AND THERE ARE NO TOURNAMENTS.

SO I APPLAUD THE APPLICANT FOR TRYING TO LISTEN AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND FIND A COMPROMISE IN THIS VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION.

THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES THAT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

AND WHAT I THINK THIS PROPOSAL DOES, IT PRESERVES THE GREEN SPACE.

IT PRESERVES THE PARK-LIKE SETTING AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER USE, WHICH WOULD NOT DO THAT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DENSITY, YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THERE ARE 12 ACRES BACK THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CHURCH.

IT WORKS OUT TO SIX TO SEVEN CHILDREN PER ACRE.

UH, THAT'S NOT REALLY VERY DENSE.

UM, I KNOW CHANGE FROM AN EXISTING CONDITION CAN BE DIFFICULT, BUT THIS IS ALSO USE THAT BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I, I GENERALLY AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. ALEX.

MR. DESLER, I'M GONNA INTERFACE THIS A LITTLE BIT HERE WITH MY, MY COMMISSIONERS.

SO, KATHY, TO BE CLEAR THAT THE CODE OF CONDUCT HAS ZERO CONTROL.

THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID OVER PEOPLE DROPPING THEIR KIDS OFF.

NONE.

CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK IT MAKES IT EVEN WORSE THAT THERE'S A PART OF CITY PROPERTY CLOSEST TO THE ONE FIELD.

'CAUSE I GOTTA TELL YOU, I WOULD DROP OFF MY KID AT THAT COMPONENT AND NOT PULL OUT AND NOT GO INTO THE CHURCH AND COME OUT.

THE OTHER PIECE IS, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO GET THERE FOR THE APPLICANT.

YOU'VE, YOU'VE TRIED.

I, I'M, BUT I, I CAN'T GET PAST 7, 8, 9 OF THE, OF THE CRITERIA.

UM, I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT IS THERE WOULD DECREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANALYSIS ON IT.

I'M JUDGING IT BY, I THINK IT WOULD DECREASE IT.

UM, THE, THE SEVEN COMPONENT, I THINK THE, THE NOISE FACTOR IS GONNA BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IF YOU'RE AROUND DOESN'T, IF YOU'RE HAVE FOUR SOCCER PRACTICES GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S NOT JUST THE KIDS SCREAMING, IT'S THE COACH SCREAMING AND IT'S THE WHISTLE IT CONSTANT.

I'VE COACHED SOCCER, BLOWING THE WHISTLE ALL THE TIME.

UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE ON THIS LAST PIECE HERE, JUST SO I STICK TO THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC PROPERTY VALUE, UH, AND THE TRAFFIC COMPONENT, RIGHT? THE CIRCULATION.

I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFICULT PIECE.

IT'S JUST WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

SOME OF THE FIELDS AND THE KIDS CAN CUT THROUGH.

UM, AND I, AND THAT CAN'T BE, THAT CAN'T BE GOVERNED BY THE, BY THE CODE OF CONDUCT, REALLY.

SO, UH, IN MY, IN MY BOOK, IT, THEY, THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA ON A, ON A COUPLE OF THEM.

SO I'M, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF, OF, UH, THANK YOU, MR. LER.

MR. GARVIN.

AND REAL QUICK, DAN, ON THE, UH, THE ST.

BRIDGET COMPONENT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT APPLES, APPLES THE COMPARISON.

THERE'S ONE FIELD WITH SIGNIFICANT SCREENING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT RELYING ON THAT, UM, COMPONENT.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY KIND OF CONSIDERATION FOR ADDITIONAL USE BEYOND, UH, ST.

BRIDGET'S OWN ATHLETICS THAT THEY HAVE.

SO, THANKS.

THANK YOU JASON.

AND THANK YOU TO, UH, ALL OF THE PUBLIC WHO MADE COMMENT HERE.

UM, IT ABSOLUTELY DOES SHADE OUR OPINIONS.

UM, I WANNA ECHO WHAT KATHY SAID ABOUT THE SCREENING.

I'M DISAPPOINTED AT THE LEVEL OF SCREENING.

THE TWO THINGS THAT WERE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME WERE THAT SCREENING AND THE REMOVAL OF THE OTHER FIELD.

NOW, I APPRECIATE THAT THAT FIELD WAS REMOVED, AND I ACTUALLY DO THINK THE INTENSITY WAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED BY THAT MOVE AND BY REMOVING THE TOURNAMENTS.

UM, ULTIMATELY I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE EFFORT ON THE SCREENING, BUT I'M SUPPORTIVE AS IS.

UM, I ECHO A LOT OF MY COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, AND I ECHO THAT THIS IS A TOUGH CASE FOR US.

I MEAN, WE ARE ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT, UM, PEOPLE LIVING CLOSE TO CHANGE LIKE THIS HAS.

BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT TO ME, THIS IS A PART OF OUR ROLE IS TO UPHOLD THE CODE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY.

AND I THINK IT'S BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR THAT AS A CONDITIONAL USE, UM, RECREATION ON THIS SITE IS, IS ACCEPTABLE.

I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED VERY HARD TO PROVIDE A LOT OF, UM, CONCESSIONS IN TERMS OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND REDUCTION OF FIELDS, ADDITIONAL

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LANDSCAPING.

SO I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE REALLY WORKED HARD TO TRY TO HELP THIS PROJECT TO FIT IN, UM, TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THE MISSION OF THE CHURCH IS TO ENGAGE WITH AND ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THAT.

UM, AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE.

IF, IF THE TERMS AREN'T MEANT, THERE IS THE ABILITY TO TAKE AWAY THE CONDITIONAL, UM, USE.

SO THERE IS A IF, IF, IF EVERYBODY'S NOT DOING THEIR JOB, AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL, AND THEY'LL, THERE'S A GREAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE ACTIVITIES ON THIS SITE AND THE COMMUNITY THAT IT CAN ALL WORK OUT.

AND I, THAT'S MY, MY HOPE.

AND SO I'M ACTUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE A CLARIFY, AND I KNOW IT'S, I KNOW PROPERTY VALUE'S SPECULATIVE, BUT IT'S YOUR COMMENT ABOUT PROPERTY VALUE, DON'T YOU THINK? THE PROPERTY VALUE, IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT? IF THEY EXPANDED THEIR PARKING OR IF THEY, AGAIN, ADDED BUILDING.

SO I DON'T, I'M, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE ON PROPERTY.

AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S SPECULATIVE, BUT I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE ON PROPERTY.

I MEAN, I THINK A COUPLE OF THE PUBLIC SAID IT EXACTLY THE BEST WOULD YOU WANT, WOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE THERE WHEN THERE'S KIDS THERE THREE OR FOUR HOURS A NIGHT? NO WAY.

AND SO THAT'S HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT.

I'M, I'M PUTTING MYSELF IN THEIR SHOES.

ASSUME THE PROPERTY VALUE'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.

I CAN'T GET THERE ON THE OTHER ON, ON, ON TWO OF THE OTHER CRITERIA.

SO THROW THAT ONE OUT.

I'D PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THE CIRCULATION AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE I DO THINK MOST PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BACK ENTRANCE, I FORGET WHAT THE STREETS ARE.

I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE NORTH, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE, THE EASIEST ACCESS POINT IS THROUGH POST ROAD.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE CUT THROUGHS BEING, UM, AS COMMON, I THINK AS A LOT OF PEOPLE DO.

THANK YOU MR. CARVIN.

LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMENTS? I WOULD LIKE TO THEN, UH, WELL, LET'S MAKE SURE HERE, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUSH IT THROUGH, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE, ARE YOU GONNA REQUIRE ADDITIONAL WITH THE CONDITION ON THE, THE SCREENING COMPONENT THEN YOU, SINCE THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS ON IT, KATHY, ARE YOU, I MEAN, ARE YOU A NO OR ARE YOU GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA, YOU GONNA HAVE IT GO FORWARD? IF THERE WAS A CONDITION ON SCREENING? UH, THAT MAY BE AMENABLE ON MY THOUGHTS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE IT'S, SOUNDS LIKE I'M GONNA BE OUT VOTED, WHICH IS TOTALLY FINE.

BUT I JUST HEARING SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE NEGATIVITY THAT YOU DID TALK ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO PUT, CAN WE DO THAT GUY? CAN YOU PUT ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ON THE CONDITIONAL USE COMPONENT TO LET IT GO THROUGH? YEAH.

STAFF THAT A VARIETY OF NATURAL LOOKING MATERIALS IS PROVIDED TO GIVE THAT MORE INSTANT IMPACT.

WORK WITH STAFF, I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE PART OF THE MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION.

AND SO THEN WE WOULD JUST NEED TO, UH, WORK TO ARTICULATE WHAT THAT CONDITION WOULD BE SO THAT EVERYBODY'S EXPECTATIONS ARE, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS INCREASING THE SCREENING BEYOND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS.

SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS IS NOT THE PREDICTED END PRODUCT.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS INCREASING THE SCREENING.

I WENT OUT THERE TODAY AND, UH, TO ME I SAW PINE TREES, UM, AND THAT WAS IT.

AND TO ME, IF YOU HAVE SCREENING, WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FOR THE TREE TO GET BIGGER.

THERE WAS OTHER TREES I WOULD'VE PICKED THAT WOULD GO, THAT WOULD, UH, GROW FASTER.

I ALSO WOULD PUT OTHER ELEMENTS IN THERE, OTHER, OTHER CHOICES.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD'VE MADE SOME DISTINCTIVE LINE, UM, THAT WOULD'VE ENHANCED THAT.

WELL, AS THE SOLE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THE COMMISSION, UM, I DO KNOW THAT TREES TAKE A WHILE TO GROW AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT INSTANT IMPACT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY THE BEST THING TO DO OVER TIME BECAUSE YOU WANT TREE PROVIDE SPACE FOR TREES TO GROW.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE OFFERED A, I THINK A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF NEW TREES WE NEED TO LET THEM GROW.

UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS CAN BE SUPPLEMENTED OVER TIME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD, UM, START TO EVALUATE HOW MANY TREES YOU NEED TO, TO ACHIEVE WHAT EFFECT.

THAT TO ME GETS TO A LITTLE BIT OF A DICEY AREA.

I WAS WONDERING WHAT A CANOPY, IF I CAN ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE MORE OF A CANOPY, SO IF YOU ARE SITTING ON YOUR PORCH THAT YOU, THAT WILL GROW AND I CAN ANTICIPATE THERE'S GONNA BE A CANOPY OF, UM, OF MORE LANDSCAPING.

AND I THINK THEY DID, WERE AMENABLE TO ADDING SOME MORE LANDSCAPING.

MS. HOLT, DO YOU HAVE A QUICK COMMENT TO ME? YES.

JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND, UM, WE AS STAFF CAREFULLY EVALUATED THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND DID ASK THEM TO PROVIDE MORE VARIETIES AND THEY DID INCLUDING SOME TALL ORNAMENTAL GRASSES.

SO WE BELIEVE AS

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UM, PERHAPS THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT THE ENTIRETY OF THE LANDSCAPING HAS BEEN INSTALLED YET.

CAN WE ASK THAT QUESTION AT THIS POINT IN OUR DELIBERATION? I MEAN, YES, YOU COULD.

YOU COULD.

SO, UH, LOOKING TO THE APPLICANT HAS ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU PROPOSED BEEN INSTALLED? EXCUSE ME.

ALL OF YOUR MICROPHONE'S NOT ON GREEN LIGHT ON THE BUTTON RIGHT BY THE, THERE YOU GO.

YOU GOOD? WOW.

SORRY ABOUT THAT CHRIS.

GROSS AGAIN.

UH, I BELIEVE ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING BESIDES, THERE'S THREE TREES IN THE OPEN GREEN CUTOUT, I BELIEVE ON THE WEST SIDE, UH, THAT WILL GO IN THERE.

AND I BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN PLANTED.

UM, SO WE'RE BACK TO THE STIPULATION THAT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE BE ADDED AS PART OF THE APPROVAL AND I COULD, WE COULD SUGGEST THAT WORKING WITH STAFF TO PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL LANDSCAPE IN AREAS WHERE STAFF THINKS IT'S APPROPRIATE, WOULD THAT BE THE RIGHT LANGUAGE TO ADD TO THE APPROVAL? YOU WANNA STIPULATE THE, UH, AN EFFORT TOWARDS THE TIMING, LIKE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN GROW QUICKLY EVEN IF IT MAYBE IS REMOVED LATER, LIKE ARBOR VTE ONCE SOMEONE BECOMES MORE MATURE? IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE GROWING SEASON AND HOW MUCH RAIN IT GETS.

I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S JUST DIFFICULT TO PICK PLANTS THAT YOU CAN GUARANTEE ARE GONNA GROW FAST BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SOIL AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I GUESS IN LIGHT OF THAT AND, AND IN LIGHT OF PLANNING OR STAFF'S POSITION THAT THEY'VE MET THE LANDSCAPE SCREENING, I DID NOT VISIT IT TODAY.

UM, BUT I GUESS I COULD WITHDRAW THE NEED FOR THAT LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION.

YOU SAID YOU WITHDREW THAT IS THAT I, I COULD APPROVE WITHOUT THAT CONDITION.

SO WE'RE SAYING THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE.

AND THEN TODAY I FELT THAT IT WAS JUST PINE TREES INTERMIXED AND THERE WAS NO OTHER PLANTING THERE, JUST TO REITERATE.

AND STAFF HAD SAID THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A VARIETY ADDED THAT MAYBE JUST IS NOT MATURE YET.

I GUESS I CAN'T REALLY RECONCILE BETWEEN THE TWO.

I'M SORRY.

COMMISSION.

DO WE WANT TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL PAUSE PLEASE? YEAH.

MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO, UM, IF THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, IF YOU WANT TO REALLY BRING THE QUESTION OF AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING OR BUFFERING CONDITION TO A HEAD, THEN, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE AND THEN MOVE TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO ADD A BUFFERING QUESTION.

'CAUSE THEN WE'LL TEE UP, UP OR DOWN THE BUFFERING QUESTION AND THEN THE APPROVAL MOTION WOULD STILL BE ON THE TABLE REGARDLESS OF HOW THAT AMENDMENT IS DECIDED.

I'M SENSING THOUGH FROM THE COMMISSION THAT WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM ON THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK WHAT FED'S SAYING IS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE ON THE APPROVAL AS IS AND THEN TAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER WE, WE AMEND IT.

AND IF THAT PASSES, THEN YOU'VE GOT, THAT SAYS I'M SAYING TO TAKE, TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE.

SO THEN YOU HAVE THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR, THEN YOU THEN MOVE TO AMEND THAT MOTION BY ADDING A CONDITION FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

AND THEN WHATEVER THE VOTE IS ON THAT, WE'LL DECIDE IF WE HAVE THAT CONDITION.

IF IT IS, UH, IF THAT AMENDMENT MOTION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL, THEN YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE AND CAN VOTE UP OR DOWN ON APPROVAL.

SO WALK ME THROUGH THIS.

YOU KNOW, I'M A NEWBIE.

SO YOU'LL YOU'LL WANT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE.

SO MOVED.

WAIT A OH, SECONDED.

DON'T I HAVE TO DO THAT ? YEAH.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE.

SECOND.

AND SO THEN YOU WOULD WANT A MOTION TO AMEND THAT MOTION BY ADDING A CONDITION REQUIRING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE MATERIALS.

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UH, MOTION TO AMEND THE APPROVAL WITH THE ADDITION OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT WORK WITH STAFF FOR ADDITIONAL SCREENING WITH AN EYE TOWARDS TIMELINESS OF VISUAL SCREENING.

SO IF THERE'S A SECOND OF THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

NOW THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION IS WHETHER TO AMEND AS STATED BY MR. GARVIN.

MR. WE, WE, THIS IS NO TO THE, THIS IS TO THE AMENDMENT? NO, TO THE AMENDMENT.

THIS IS TO THE AMENDMENT.

MR. CHINOOK? NO, MR. DESLER, THIS IS ON THE AMENDMENT PIECE, RIGHT? SOLELY ON THE AMENDMENT.

I'M GONNA ABSTAIN.

THANKS .

MS. HARDER? YES, IT FAILED.

WE DID NOT HAVE FOUR VOTES.

SO NOW THE QUESTION BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY, THE MOTION TO AMEND IS FAILED.

THE QUESTION BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY IS THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE WITH NO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.

ARE WE READY, MS. HARDER? NO.

MR. DESLER? NO, THAT PASSED.

THANK YOU FOR THAT HELP .

I'LL REMEMBER IT FOR THE NEXT TIME.

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE IS JUST A THRILL A MINUTE.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE.

NOW, AS PEOPLE FROM THE FIRST CASE ARE LEAVING, IF YOU COULD EXIT THE ROOM AND MOVE OUT TOWARDS THE LEFT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE GENERATED OUT IN THE LOBBY.

I NEED MORE WATER.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, TWO

[Case #25-065PDP & Case #25-106CU]

MORE CASES.

THE FOLLOWING TWO CASES PERTAIN TO THE SAME PROJECT AND PROPERTY THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED TOGETHER THIS EVENING.

SEPARATE ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN FOR EACH CASE.

UH, THIS IS CASE NUMBER 25 DASH SIX FIVE PDP AND 25 DASH 0 1 0 6 CU BRIDGE PARK BLOCK Y PRE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW AN ONLINE PARKING STRUCTURE ALONG THE STREET.

THE 4.5 ACRE SITE IS ZONED B-S-D-S-R-N BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT CIO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND WEST DUBLIN GRANDVILLE ROAD.

ROUNDABOUT.

WE'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP TO THE MICROPHONE TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

MR. HUNTER, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

UH, RUSSELL HUNTER, 66 40 RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN AS WELL.

UM, THANK YOU EVERYONE.

GREAT TO BE HERE.

REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

UM, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS.

UH, A LOT OF REGULAR MEETINGS, UH, AND A LOT OF AD HOC MEETINGS AS WELL TO WORK THROUGH.

UM, EVERYTHING.

THIS IS, UH, UNDOUBTEDLY THE MOST EXCITING PROJECT THAT WE'VE, UH, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW BY A FACTOR OF PROBABLY 10.

IT'S REALLY JUST A SIMPLE GOAL, BUILD THE BEST HOSPITALITY PROJECT IN THE STATE OF OHIO THAT WE CAN.

UM, AND WE REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA BE A CATALYST FOR, UM, FOR RIVER RIDGE AND, AND 1 61 CORRIDOR IN PARTICULAR.

IT'S REALLY GOT ME THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD COME NEXT.

UH, AS THIS AREA CONTINUES TO EVOLVE, WE'RE PARTNERED, OBVIOUSLY WITH CAMERON MITCHELL RESTAURANTS IN PANACEA ON, ON THE SPA, REALLY LOOKING FOR THE BEST OF THE BEST, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, PEOPLE THAT CAN BRING THIS TO LIFE.

UM, AND BEST OF THE BEST ALSO INCLUDES THE ARMY OF CONSULTANTS, UM, THAT WE, WE BRING TO BEAR EVERY TIME WE COME, UH, TO THESE MEETINGS.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE FOLKS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AN AWFUL LONG TIME, UH, TO BRING BRIDGE PARK TO LIFE.

UM, THIS IS QUITE A TASK.

UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.

IT'S A REALLY COMPLICATED SITE.

UM, AND WHAT'S MADE THIS PROCESS, UM, FUN IS THE COLLABORATION AND THE COMMUNICATION, NOT JUST WITH STAFF.

IN THE MEETINGS

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THAT I REFERRED TO, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ON EARTH, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WERE GONNA DEAL WITH THE STORM WATER, HOW WE WERE GONNA DEAL WITH SERVICE FOR A SITE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO RIVERSIDE DRIVE OR 1 61 IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

UM, COMMUNICATION WITH NEIGHBORS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS.

I KNOW WE DON'T ALL SEE EYE TO EYE.

UM, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW, UM, IS THAT THROUGH SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU REWIND ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE INFORMAL, THE, THE HOTEL BUILDING USED TO BE MUCH LONGER.

IT KIND OF STUCK ALL, ALL ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UM, AND WE REALIZED A BETTER SOLUTION, A DESIGN SOLUTION, NOT ONLY TO PULL THE BUILDING AWAY FROM THE SOUTH, AWAY FROM SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORS, ACTUALLY ALSO MADE FOR A BETTER PROJECT.

UH, BECAUSE IT, IT REALLY, UM, CREATED THAT OUTDOOR ROOM THAT IS NOW OUR ARRIVAL SEQUENCE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY TRYING TO WORK WITH ENGINEERING AND, AND WITH SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ALONG MARTIN ROAD TO LOOK FOR, UM, IF THEY, IF THERE ARE CLEVER ENGINEERING WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC EXPERIENCE BETTER FOR THEM LONG TERM.

'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE, WE WANT EVERYONE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE TO BE EXCITED FOR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING.

AND SO THE DEGREE TO WHICH WE CAN HELP, WE WANT TO HELP.

UM, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

WE STILL, THERE'S STILL A LONG WAYS TO GO.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T EVEN STOPPED SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS WAS SUBMITTED.

UH, BUT WE ARE THRILLED TO SHARE WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO DATE WITH YOU TONIGHT.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, I, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO, UH, TO JOHN, UH, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE SITE CHANGES.

GOOD EVENING, JOHN WOODS.

UH, 4 6 2 SOUTH LUDLOW STREET.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO, UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SITE PLANNING AND DESIGN, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT AS ONE OF SEVERAL LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ON OUR TEAM SUPPORTING CRAWFORD HOING AND THE, UH, GREATER, UH, OUR OTHER DESIGN PARTNERS.

I THINK I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE SAYING THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK ON THIS SIGNATURE PROJECT AT A LANDMARK SITE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

UM, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, ZACH.

SO I, UM, I KNOW EVERYONE'S PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITE, BUT I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO KIND OF GROUND IT IN THE CONTEXT THAT WE'RE, THAT THIS PROJECT IS SITUATED IN, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT BEING ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE ROUNDABOUT ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN 1 61 ALONG THE CY RIVER CORRIDOR.

UM, AND THEN TO THE NORTH WE HAVE THE, UM, MAIN BODY OF THE BRIDGE PARK DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH THE ANCHOR AC MARRIOTT HOTEL THERE ON THE ROUNDABOUT.

UM, AND THEN TO THE EAST, UM, UH, TOP OF THE SCREEN THERE, WE HAVE THE RIVER RIDGE DEVELOPMENT, TO WHICH WE'RE INTEGRATING THIS PROJECT WITH.

UM, THERE ARE THREE MAIN, UM, BUILDING COMPONENTS ON THIS, ON THIS SITE, AN OFFICE BUILDING, A HOTEL, AND A CONDOMINIUM BUILDING.

BUT ONE OTHER IMPORTANT COMPONENT, IMPORTANT BUILDING COMPONENT IS PARKING.

AND USUALLY WE DON'T GET TERRIBLY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT PARKING, BUT IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A GOOD REASON TO BE EXCITED BECAUSE THE PARKING IS VIRTUALLY OUTTA SIGHT.

UM, REFERENCING THE, THE NORTH SIDE, UM, A BRIDGE PARK WITH THE THREE PARKING GARAGES, YOU CAN SEE THE VISUAL IMPACT THERE THAT THOSE GARAGES HAVE IN THE DISTRICT.

NOW, THOSE ARE REALLY WELL DESIGNED PARKING GARAGES THAT DO A GOOD JOB OF, UH, INTEGRATING WITH, UM, UH, LINER BUILDINGS AND THAT SORT OF THING TO INTEGRATE THEM INTO THE SITE.

BUT THIS PROJECT HAS GONE A STEP FURTHER, I THINK, IN PUSHING THAT PARKING UNDERGROUND OR OUT OF SITE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DRIVERS, UM, TO THE SITE DESIGN HERE AND ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE.

UM, RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE NORTH IS REALLY A GREAT PARKWAY IN THE CITY AND EXTENDING WELL BEYOND, UH, THE REACH OF DUBLIN.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CARRY THAT NATURALIZED FEEL UP INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND AS WE TRANSITION INTO THE ROUNDABOUT, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY, UH, BEHIND THE SIDEWALK ANYWAY, A VERY, UH, NATURALIZED, UH, PLANTING ARRANGEMENT AND A VERY, UM, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED WALKABLE STREET THERE, CONTIN ON THE STREET SIDE, CONTINUING THE PLANTERS DOWN.

BUT THOSE PLANTERS WOULD THEN BE PLANTED WITH UNDERSTORY PLANTS THAT ARE, UH, NATURALIZED UP AT THE CORNER.

UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF GRADE CHANGE TO WORK TO WORK THROUGH, AND WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE THAT A GRACEFUL TRANSITION FROM THE LOBBY DOWN TO THE STREET.

WE HAVE SOME LAND HEAVILY LANDSCAPED TERRACES

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THAT CREATED A, UM, ACCESSIBLE LANDSCAPE TERRACES FROM BOTH THE BUILDING LOBBY AND THE STREET LEVEL.

AND THEN NESTLED INTO THAT, UH, THOSE TERRACES ARE SOME PATIOS, UH, WHERE OUR, UH, RESIDENTS ARE THE PUBLIC CAN OCCUPY AND, AND USE FOR RESPITE.

AS WE MOVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER EAST UP 1 61, THAT LANDSCAPE, UH, STRATEGY KIND OF MIRRORS WHAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SO IT'S TRYING TO, TO BASICALLY CREATE A MIRROR IMAGE OF WHAT'S ON BRIDGE PARK NORTH OF 1 61 TO CREATE THAT SYMMETRY.

UH, MOVING EAST WE HAVE A, UM, OUR FIRST INTERIOR STREET, UH, WITH A RIGHT ONLY ACCESS POINT, UH, INTO THAT STREET, UM, JUST EAST OF THE CONDOMINIUM BUILDING.

THAT ACCESS IS PRIMARILY DESIGNED FOR SERVICE.

AND, UM, THAT STREET ITSELF IS MOSTLY GONNA BE USED BY, UH, SERVICE VALET ACCESS TO THE PARKING GARAGES AND, UM, TO THE SERVICE COURT.

MOVING UP TO DALE DRIVE IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SITE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE EXPECT MOST OF OUR PUBLIC PATRONS TO ENTER.

AND THAT'S DESIGNED, UM, VERY SIMILAR TO A A STREET IN BRIDGE PARK WITH, UM, ON STREET PARKING.

WE HAVE A LINEAR PARKWAY OPEN SPACE, UM, BORDERING THE WENDY'S SITE AND THEN ADJACENT TO THE OFFICE JUST EAST OF THE OFFICE, ANOTHER MAJOR OPEN SPACE, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT ENTRY DRIVE.

AND THEN THAT GETS US TO THE ARRIVAL COURT.

UM, THIS, UH, THE ARRIVAL, THE VEHICULAR ARRIVAL COURT IS, UM, INSPIRED BY A PIAZZA AND IT'S, UM, MOSTLY, UH, PAVED WITH A ANCHORED BY A WATER FEATURE IN THE CENTER.

AND THEN THE PEDESTRIAN SPACE AROUND THAT BALANCES OUT THAT HARDSCAPE WITH SOME, UH, LANDSCAPE BEDS AND, UH, WALKWAYS FOR PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT TO ACCESS ALL THE DIFFERENT DESTINATIONS.

THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE CAFE, UM, TERRACE THERE FOR, UH, OUTDOOR DINING.

AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE, UM, SERVICE COURT, UM, TO THE, TO THE SOUTH.

UM, UP AT THE OFFICE, I DID WANNA MENTION WE REMOVED A ROADWAY THERE AROUND, UH, IT WASN'T REALLY A NECESSARY ROAD CONNECTION THAT WRAPPED AROUND THE, UH, EXISTING RIVER RIDGE RETAIL BUILDING AND KIND OF CONNECTED TO THE BACKSIDE ON THE SOUTH.

WE REMOVED THAT 'CAUSE IT WASN'T REALLY NECESSARY FOR VEHICULAR CIRCULATION AND TURN THAT INTO MORE, UH, PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, ZACH.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO TOO DEEP INTO MATERIALS HERE.

UM, FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

WE CAN GET INTO THIS MORE, BUT I'LL SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, BRING THE QUALITY OF BRIDGE PARK THAT WAS, UH, ESTABLISHED IN THE NORTH SIDE TO THIS SITE.

NEXT SLIDE.

ZACH, UH, LIKEWISE FOR PLANTING WOULD TAKE A DISCIPLINED APPROACH TO PLANTING HERE.

UH, THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS SITE IS WE HAVE A LOT MORE REAL ESTATE AND PLANT MATERIAL TO, TO WORK WITH, SO WE HAVE CAN HAVE A LOT MORE, UH, FUN PLANTING THIS ONE.

I'M ALSO NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THESE, UH, SECTIONS.

UM, THEY'RE HERE FOR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION LATER.

SO I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO OUR PARTNERS AT MOODY KNOLL TO TALK ABOUT THE OFFICE.

HI, UH, BRIAN.

SELL 9 0 9 3 RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE OFFICE BUILDING.

UH, WE'RE LEADING OFF WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING, UH, MOSTLY BECAUSE, UM, IT'S THE FIRST BUILDING YOU WILL EXPERIENCE WHILE YOU'RE ENTERING THE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? AND IT'S ALSO THE BUILDING THAT KIND OF TRANSITIONS THAT SCALE OF THE MALL TO THE HOTEL.

UM, SO WE WANNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE HOTEL, UH, AND THE CONDO.

SO, UM, IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO KIND OF ORIENT EVERYONE.

TALK ABOUT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

I THINK THAT REALLY HELPED US, UH, TO THE OFFICE BUILDING, UH, IN COMMUNICATING WITH, UH, WITH STAFF THIS IDEA OF, UH, WE GAVE THIS A SIGNIFICANT FRONT DOOR.

AND IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SORT OF OFF OF DALE DRIVE, THIS PUBLIC PLAZA HAS REALLY ESTABLISHED A KIND OF A FRONT DOOR FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING ITSELF, BUT ALSO, UM, UH, FRONT PRESENCE TO TWO POSSIBLE FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPPORTUNITIES ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

UM, SO YOU SEE THE, UM, AND THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ARE, ARE THIS IDEA OF A PORCH, UM, ADDRESSING THE, THE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT, WHICH IS LEFT.

THIS IS ORIENTED SIMILAR TO THE SITE PLAN.

SO NORTH IS ALWAYS TO THE LEFT ON THE, ON THESE DRAWINGS.

UM, IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

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THIS FLOOR AND THE NEXT SLIDE ARE, UH, 360 DEGREE, UH, OPEN, OPEN WINDOW COLUMN THREE, OFFICE SPACE FOR FUTURE TENANTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE OTHER, UM, A NICE AMENITY AND, AND UNIQUE FEATURE OF THE BUILDING IS THIS IS TERRACE, WHICH, UM, HAS THE ABILITY TO KIND OF SEE THROUGH THIS VIEW CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE GONNA, CHRIS IS GONNA INTRODUCE TO YOU, UM, THROUGH THE HOTEL AND CONDO BUILDING.

UM, THAT'S A KIND OF A PUBLIC OR AMENITY SPACE FOR THE, FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WE GET TO SEE THAT SORT OF, UH, EAST FACADE, WHICH IS THAT ENTRY FACADE.

AND THIS IS THE FACADE THAT ADDRESSES THAT PLAZA SPACE, THAT BIG PUBLIC PLA PLAZA SPACE.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE, SEE THAT THE TWO, UH, RESTAURANT, UM, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPPORTUNITIES HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

AND, UH, ONE IS A VERY SMALL, UH, KIND OF POCKET PARK OPPORTUNITY.

THE OTHER IS THAT GRANDER PORCH WITH, UH, ALL THE VIEWS AND THE INTERACTION WITH THE HOTEL.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

YOU SEE THE EAST, SO THIS IS THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE VIEW.

AND, AND FROM THE HOTEL VIEW, UM, WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE, UH, THE GRADE TO PUT SOME OF THE MECHANICAL ROOMS DOWN IN, IN A, UH, SMALL BASEMENT, ALLOWING US TO NOT, UH, WASTE ANY, UH, DAYLIGHT OPPORTUNITIES ON THAT GROUND FLOOR.

UM, SO WE'RE ALSO, BECAUSE THIS IS VIEWED FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE, YOU EXPERIENCE THIS BUILDING KIND OF FROM THE TOP FLOORS AND ABOUT TWO FLOORS DOWN 'CAUSE YOU'RE SO LOW.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT TERRACE FEATURE KIND OF WRAPS AROUND AND CREATES, UM, SOMETHING THAT CATCHES YOUR EYE AND LEADS YOU, UM, ALSO LEADS YOU INTO THAT SORT OF ACTIVE ZONE.

UM, IN THE ENTRY SEQUENCE, UM, THAT CHRIS IS GONNA TALK ABOUT MORE IN THE ARCHITECTURE THERE, YOU SEE THAT NORTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS THAT TERRORIST OPPORTUNITY OF A VERY ACTIVE AND PORCH OPPORTUNITY, VERY ACTIVE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE SOUTH VIEW.

THIS IS THE VIEW, UH, FROM THE WALKING PATH AND AROUND THE SOUTH.

IF YOU WERE COMING UP FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE, UM, AND WALKING INTO THIS PUBLIC PLAZA ALONG THIS AREA, YOU'LL SEE SOME 3D VIEWS HERE.

NEXT, THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS THAT VIEW AGAIN OF THE, UH, DRIVING IN AND THAT, AND THAT LARGE PUBLIC PLAZA, UH, A LARGE LAWN, A LARGE PAVE PLAZA, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME, A UNIQUE FEATURE, A SEATING STAGE TYPE FEATURE, UM, MULTIPURPOSE KIND OF FEATURE.

WE, WE SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY BEING HERE.

UM, THE ABILITY FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO KIND OF PULL UP, UM, YEAH, AND THEN TENTS AND SO FORTH.

SO, UH, IT'S A GREAT SPACE THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO DESIGNING FURTHER.

UM, THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE, THE MALL, UM, THAT, THAT COUPLE IN THE FRONT IS JUST, UH, TRANSCENDED DOWN THE STAIRS, UH, THAT HAS LARGE STAIRS, WHICH EXISTS NOW.

UM, THIS IS A VIEW FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WALKING PATH TO THE SOUTH.

SO AS YOU RISE UP, AND THIS IS A I'LL, I'LL GO WITH YOU , WE CAN, UH, AND THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE AUTO COURT AS I'M EXITING OR ENTERING THE AUTO COURT TO THE, THAT JOHN JUST DESCRIBED TO THE HOTEL SHOWING THAT TERRACE AND THAT VIEW.

SO THANK YOU.

FOOD RESTAURANT TO THE SOUTH.

I'M CHRIS MEYERS WITH MYERS AND ASSOCIATES ARCHITECTS.

UM, WERE THE ARCHITECTS FOR THE HOTEL, THE RESIDENTIAL, AND THE, UH, GARAGE.

UM, I LOOKED AT THE, THE FIRST SKETCH ON THIS, UH, PROJECT AND THE SCRIBBLY DATE ON THE SIDE WAS THE BEGINNING OF, UH, 2021.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS THING WITH RUSS AND HIS TEAM AND THE REST OF THE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS FOR A WHILE.

UM, WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT IS REALLY THE RESULT OF, UH, A WONDERFUL COLLABORATION WITH THE, UH, COMMISSION, THE STAFF AND, AND ALSO THE RESIDENTS.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF, UH, CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE SHARED A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO TRY TO, UH, WORK AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE WE FLEW A BALLOON THAT KIND OF SHOWED THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AS A WAY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPLAIN WHERE THIS THING MIGHT BE.

UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY OBJECTIVES OF THIS PROJECT GOING ALL THE WAY BACK FIVE, UH, YEARS AGO, STILL HOLD TRUE.

WHAT THEY REALLY INVOLVE IS HOW DO WE CREATE A BUILDING THAT FITS INTO ITS CONTEXT? AND IN THIS CONTEXT, WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE CONDITION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS ALL COMING TOGETHER, UH, IN ONE SPOT.

SO CERTAINLY TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE THE SUCCESS OF BRIDGE PARK.

WE HAVE ITS DENSITY, ITS HEIGHT, ITS SCALE, UH, ITS MATERIALITY TO THE EAST.

WE HAVE A SHOPPING CENTER, A FAST

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WE HAVE A GREAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.

WE HAVE, UH, A WOODED RAVINE RIVERSIDE SITE GOING DOWN TO THE WATER.

UH, BUT REALLY TO OUR, OUR NORTHWEST HAS BEEN SOME OF THE FOCAL POINT OF WHERE WE'RE REALLY DRIVING, UH, SOME OF THE DESIGN DIRECTION.

DO I JUST SAY NEXT, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO PRESS THE BUTTON? CAN I PRESS THIS? SO THIS VIEW CORRIDOR IS SOMETHING THAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE, THE DRIVER WHEN IT COMES TO THE DESIGN OF NOT ONLY THE SHAPE AND FORM OF THE BUILDING, SOME OF THE SITE PLANNING, BUT IT'S ALSO, UH, HAS A LOT TO DO WITH SOME OF THE INTERIOR PLANNING AND SOME OF THE, UH, CONDITIONS THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU ON THE, UH, INTERIOR PLANT.

IN THIS VIEW CORRIDOR, WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL, UH, GLIMPSE BACK TO, COME ON, ZACH.

WE HAVE THIS, THIS GLIMPSE BACK TO OLD DUBLIN, UH, THE LINK BRIDGE, BRIDGE PARK, UM, THE WESTERN VIEW, THE SUNSET.

SO IT'S A REALLY WONDERFUL, UH, COMPONENT THAT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN THE DRIVER FOR THE DESIGN OF THE, THE BUILDING, UH, IF WE'RE UP OVER THE RIVER, UH, IN OLD DUBLIN.

KINDA LOOKING BACK, OBVIOUSLY THE ROUNDABOUT, THE AC TO THE LEFT.

UM, LOOKING DOWN, UM, DUBLIN GRANDVILLE ROAD, UM, SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE, UH, THE BUILDING INCLUDE THE RESIDENTIAL TOWER IS OVER TO THE LEFT, THE HOTEL IS TO THE RIGHT, AND THEY SHARE A COMMON LOBBY LEVEL, WHICH REALLY SERVES TO CREATE THE CONCOURSE THAT CONNECTS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING.

AS WE ZOOM IN A LITTLE CLOSER, A COUPLE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT IS, UH, THE HOTEL AGAIN, TO THE RIGHT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE, UM, MARRIOTT AUTOGRAPH SERIES HOTEL.

UH, AUTOGRAPHS ARE A PREMIER LEVEL, UH, BRAND WITHIN MARRIOTT.

THERE'S 523, UH, AUTOGRAPHS AROUND THE WORLD IN 60 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.

UH, IN THE UNITED STATES, THERE'S 162, AND THERE'S ONLY FOUR IN OHIO.

UH, THE ONE HERE IN, UH, COLUMBUS IS AT THE LEVEQUE.

UH, OUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OVER ON THE LEFT HAS 24 CONDOMINIUM UNITS.

SO THESE ARE, UH, OWNED, UM, UH, RESIDENTIAL SPACES THAT, AGAIN, HAVE HOSPITALITY SERVICES AND ALL OF THE, UH, FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE, THE BUILDING.

THIS VIEW IS ALSO SHOWING YOU UP ON WHAT IS OUR SECOND LEVEL FROM THIS VIEW IS OUR GRADE LEVEL ON THAT MOTOR COURT.

NOW THE SITE HAS A 34 FOOT DROP FROM EAST TO WEST.

AND SO THE BENEFIT TO THAT IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND ESSENTIALLY BURY IT ALMOST ENTIRELY INTO THAT HILLSIDE WHERE WE HAVE EXPOSED PARKING LEVELS, UH, THAT FACE WESTWARD OR NORTH.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INCORPORATE A LANDSCAPE DESIGN THAT REALLY SHAPES AND BUFFERS THE TRANSITION FROM THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY AT STREET TO THE OCCUPIABLE LEVELS OF THE BUILDING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THESE PARKING AREAS ARE ALL, UH, COVERED WITH, UH, EXTERIOR FACADE.

SO THERE'S NO OPEN VIEWS INTO A GARAGE, EVEN THOUGH IT BEHIND THAT WALL IS SOME PARKING.

SO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING UP ABOVE HAS MADE ITS WAY DOWN TO THE LANDSCAPE.

THE LANDSCAPE HAS BROUGHT ITSELF UP, UH, TO THE BUILDING TO BUFFER AND CREATE THAT DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE WALKABLE SIDEWALK AND THE APPROACHABLE, UH, BUILDING.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS ELEVATION, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF THE, THE PROMINENT FEATURES OF THE BUILDING.

SO THERE'S A ROOFTOP POOL, UH, THAT YOU SEE IN BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE AND THE HOTEL.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, TRANSPARENCY AND VISIBILITY INTO THE, UH, ACTIVE SPACES.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM, UH, DUBLIN GRANDVILLE ROAD.

YOU SEE THE WENDY'S OVER TO YOUR LEFT.

WE'VE CREATED A A BIT OF A LANDSCAPE, UH, BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.

UH, BEHIND THOSE TREES IS THE SIGNATURE RESTAURANT, UH, AND ALSO SOME OF THAT OUTDOOR, UH, SEATING AROUND THE MOTOR COURT.

UH, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN IS GOING FROM, UH, ROUNDABOUT AND REALLY BLENDING UP TO THE FACADE, UH, OF THE BUILDING.

THIS IS A VIEW OVER ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE LOOKING NORTH, UH, JUST PAST THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE IS THE AC UH, HOTEL IN THE BACKGROUND.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RUSS MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING WAS, UH, AN EARLY DESIGN ALTERATION WAS WE TOOK THE LINEAR NATURE OF THE HOTEL THAT WAS JUST RUNNING NORTH SOUTH ALONG, UH, RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

AND WE BENT IT AND WE BENT THE BUILDING TO DO TWO THINGS.

AT FIRST, IT CREATED A MUCH GREATER DISTANCE AND SEPARATION FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTIES TO OUR SOUTH.

BUT WHAT IT ALSO DID WAS IT SORT OF CREATED AN ENVELOPE AROUND THAT MOTOR

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COURT.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT REALLY CONTAINS A LOT OF THAT ACTIVITY.

IT BLOCKS HEADLIGHTS, IT ALSO CREATES A VIBRANCY, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE FRONT DOOR OF THE BUILDING.

THE ONE SECOND.

SO THIS SPACE RIGHT TO THE, TO THE RIGHT OF THE HOTEL.

UH, THIS IS OUR EVENT SPACE.

UH, SO WE HAVE ABOUT 16,000 SQUARE FEET OF, UM, BANQUET AND EVENT AND MEETING SPACES, UH, WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

UH, THE OTHER COMPONENTS INSIDE INCLUDE, UH, A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT SPA.

UM, RUSS HAD MENTIONED PANACEA.

THAT IS THE, THE OCCUPANT.

THEY HAVE A, A WONDERFUL SPACE DOWN AT QUARRY TRAILS.

UH, THIS WILL BE THEIR BIGGER, UH, FACILITY, UH, THAT WILL BE UP ON THE SECOND LE THE SECOND LEVEL.

AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A BREAKOUT SPACE AS A ROOF TERRACE AS WELL.

SO WHERE YOU SEE THE, THE PEOPLE STANDING AT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S OUT OF THE BANQUET SPACE.

ACTUALLY UP ABOVE THAT, UH, IS THE WALKOUT SPACE OFF OF THE, UH, SPA TERRACE.

IF WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE, UH, OFFICE BUILDING THAT BRIAN HAD JUST, UH, PRESENTED, AND WE TURN TO THE LEFT.

THIS IS THE ROADWAY BRINGING YOU INTO THE MOTOR COURT.

WE'RE INCORPORATING A HEAVY AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE TO REALLY SATURATE THAT, UH, AREA AND ALLOW FOR SLOW CIRCULATION, UH, A GREAT PEDESTRIAN WALKABILITY.

UH, ALSO EACH OF THE, UH, VENUES ON THE INTERIOR OF THE SPACE OPEN OUT ONTO THIS EXTERIOR.

SO SIDEWALK CAFE SEATING, UH, OFF OF THE SIGNATURE, UH, RESTAURANT.

AS WE COME UP TO THE FRONT ENTRY, THIS IS THE, UH, PORT KOCHER, THE CANOPY, UH, WATER, UH, FEATURE TO THE LEFT.

AND YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE, UH, INTO THE, UH, FRONT, UH, COMPONENT OF THE MAIN LOBBY TO JUST GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.

UH, INSIDE IN PLAN, WE JUST THOUGHT WE'D RUN YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, THE LAYOUT.

SO YOU SEE THE MOTOR COURT, UH, IN THE CENTER, UH, COMING IN.

THAT MAIN VESTIBULE STRAIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE HOTEL LOBBY AND COCKTAIL BAR.

THAT ENTIRE WALL PAST THE COCKTAIL BARS, ALL GLASS OUT TO A TERRACE THAT THEN LEADS TO THOSE TIERED LANDSCAPE, UM, PLATEAUS THAT JOHN HAD MENTIONED.

BUT THAT PANORAMIC VIEW IS THAT VIEW.

LOOKING AT THE LINK BRIDGE, BRIDGE PARK, AND ALSO, UH, OLD DUBLIN FROM THAT POINT, IF YOU GO RIGHT, IT'S, THERE'S A, UM, A LOBBY CAFE, A GRAND BRIDAL STAIR, AND THEN A, A PASSAGE BACK TO THE SIGNATURE RESTAURANT.

UH, RESTAURANT, UH, IS OF COURSE A CAMERON MITCHELL RESTAURANT.

IT'S A NEW CREATED BRAND THAT'S STILL IN THE WORKS.

UM, AND SO, UH, AN ELEVATED, UH, DINING EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, YOU SEE THERE'S SOME SHAPE AND LANDSCAPE.

IT HAS AN OUTDOOR TERRACE THAT'S INWARD FACING, UH, TO OUR DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU GO FROM THE VESTIBULE NOW TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE SOUTH, UH, MAIN CHECK-IN SPACE REGISTRATION AND RECEPTION ELEVATORS, UH, UP TO GUEST ROOMS. AND THEN THAT CONCOURSE BRINGS YOU DOWN TO OUR EVENT SPACES, THE BALLROOM, UH, MEETING AREAS, UH, EXTERIOR TERRACES IN BETWEEN THE BALLROOM AND THE HOTEL LOBBY RESTAURANT.

AND MAIN BAR IS ALL OF OUR KITCHEN SERVICES.

THOSE ALL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO, UH, LOADING SPACES BELOW.

AS WE GO UP TO THE SECOND LEVEL, THIS IS WHERE OUR EXTERIOR POOL AND TERRACE IS.

UH, ON THE, THE FRONT CORNER OF THE BUILDING, UH, ADJACENT TO THAT IS FITNESS THAT IS FOR, UH, RESIDENTS AND HOTEL GUESTS.

UH, ANOTHER CONCEPT BEING DEVELOPED IS A SPEAKEASY, UH, COCKTAIL LOUNGE.

UH, AND THEN WE START TO HAVE A COUPLE OF OUR CONDO, UH, UNITS UP TOWARDS THE TOP, YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT.

UM, THERE IS A, THE 15,000 SQUARE FOOT SPA AND WELLNESS SPACE, UH, WHICH GOES TO THAT SPA TERRACE TO THE RIGHT.

OUR TYPICAL UPPER FLOORS, AGAIN, WE HAVE 24 CONDOMINIUM UNITS.

THEY'RE OF DIFFERENT SIZES AS WE GO UP AND DOWN, UH, THE BUILDING, WE HAVE 130, UH, GUEST ROOMS, UH, WITHIN THE HOTEL.

AND THEN WE LOVE ENDING ON PARKING LAYOUTS.

UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE, THE PARKING IS, IS, UH, A REALLY INTERESTING COMPONENT.

I THINK, AS JOHN HAD MENTIONED, UH, FULLY CONTAINED WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.

IT HELPS US RE-LEVEL THAT GROUND PLANE, UH, FROM THE UPPER, UH, PORTION IN THE MOTOR COURT.

UH, WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO CONCEAL, UH, ALL OF OUR LOADING AREAS.

UH, ALL THE MECHANICAL COMPONENTS, GENERATORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE, ARE TUCKED INTO PLACES THAT ARE HIDDEN BEHIND SCREEN WALLS AND INCORPORATED INTO THE BUILDING DESIGN.

AND, UH, PLACED IN POSITIONS

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THAT THEY HAVE VERY, VERY MINIMAL IMPACT, UH, TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

UM, THROUGHOUT THIS SPACE, WE ALSO THEN GO DOWNWARDS.

UH, ONE AND A HALF STORIES OF OUR PARKING GARAGE ARE ALL, UH, BELOW GRADE.

UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMPLEXITY IN THE PROJECT TO GET ALL OF THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UH, TO WORK.

UH, EMH AND T IS OUR, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER, AND THEY'RE HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT, UM, THE, THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW STORM WATER IS HANDLED ON THIS PROPERTY, UH, GOES WAY BEYOND JUST THIS BUILDING.

UH, IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE SHOPPING AREA, AND THERE'S BEEN A GREAT, UH, COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ENGINEERS.

UH, ON THE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A PACKET THAT HAS A TON OF DETAIL.

THESE ARE ALL IN THERE, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MATERIALITY.

UM, IT IS A CONTINUATION OF THE LEVEL OF FINISH, UH, QUALITY AND PRODUCTS THAT YOU SEE.

UH, AT BRIDGE PARK, THE BUILDING IS PREDOMINANTLY, UH, TWO TONES OF MASONRY.

UH, THERE'S A, UM, UH, INSULATED METAL PANELS, A LOT OF GLASS, AND THEN ALSO, UH, SOME CERAMIC PANELS FOR, UH, LARGE FORMAT, UH, STONE, UH, APPEARANCE.

AND THESE ARE EACH OF THE FOUR SIDES.

AND WE'LL END ON THIS VIEW.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER, UH, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

AND, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT IN DEVELOPING THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MR. MYERS.

WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION NOW, ZACH.

RECENTLY ADOPTED, UH, OR WAS UPDATED AND ADOPTED IN AUGUST OF 2024.

THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.

UH, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ARE TWO APPLICATIONS.

THE FIRST IS FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF BLOCK Y.

THE SECOND IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ONLINE PORTION OF THE PARKING GARAGE.

UH, THIS IS THE SECOND OF THREE STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.

SO SHOULD IT BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TONIGHT, IT WOULD COME BACK FOR FOUND DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT A FUTURE DATE.

UM, TYPICALLY WHAT IS CONSIDERED WITH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS GENERAL CONSISTENCY WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN.

UH, AND THEN ADDRESSING, UH, AND STARTING TO SETTLE DOWN ON THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE, THE GENERAL MASSING OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE CHARACTER OF THE SITE.

UM, A LOT OF TOPICS SUCH AS MATERIALS OF BUILDINGS, UM, OF OPEN SPACE FITTINGS AND, AND ALL THOSE MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS.

WE TYPICALLY HAND AT THE HANDLE AT THE FILE DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SHARE IN TERMS OF OUR ANALYSIS, AND WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT TO FILE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, APPLICATION.

BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS IN THE CENTER GENERAL ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN, UH, ALIGNMENT WITH IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT CODE.

AND THEN CONCEPT PLAN ALIGNMENT.

A DECISION IS CERTAIN DETERMINATION IS REQUIRED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS MEETING.

SO THIS SITE IS JUST OVER FIVE ACRES IN SIZE ZONE, SCIO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSPECTIVE, UH, OF THE SITE, IT WAS MENTIONED DURING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, BUT THE SITE DOES SIT LOWER THAN MANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND IT, UH, WITH ABOUT 30 TO 35 FEET OF GRADE CHANGE AS YOU MOVE FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO THE EAST END OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND, UH, AT THE ROUNDABOUT WITH 1 61, WHICH WOULD BE WEST OF GRANVILLE ROAD.

SO THIS CONCEPT PLAN WAS BEFORE THE COMMISSION BACK IN JANUARY OF 20 OF THIS YEAR.

UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL WITH SEVEN CONDITIONS.

NOW, SINCE JANUARY, THE PROCESS FOR CONCEPT PLANS HAVE CHANGED.

HAS THIS, DID, DOES HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TIED TO IT ORIGINALLY THAT REQUIRED, UH, CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE CONCEPT PLANS.

BUT SINCE, UM, I BELIEVE ROUGHLY APRIL, THAT PROCESS HAS CHANGED.

SO CONS, PLANS NOW JUST STAY WITH THE COMMISSION AND THEY OPERATE AS ANY OTHER DISTRICT WHERE IT'S MORE, UH, NON-BINDING FEEDBACK AND THEN THEY MOVED TO A PRELIMINARY.

SO I DID WANT TO PROVIDE WHAT THE COMMISSION'S GENERAL COMMENTS WERE AT FROM THAT MEETING.

UH, THOSE ARE LISTED, AGAIN, VERY GENERALIZED ON THE SCREEN, THAT THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT AND SITE LAYOUT.

THERE WAS MIXED FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED MASSING AND SCALE THE BUILDINGS.

THERE WAS GENERAL CONCERN OF IMPACTS TO TRAFFIC AND ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM WEST DUB GRANDVILLE ROAD, PARTICULAR TO THE ACCESS DRIVE THAT WAS PROVIDED NEW WITH THE SITE.

AND THEN THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND ACTIVATION OF FRONTAGES ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND WEST DUB GRANDVILLE ROAD.

UM, AGAIN, THIS SITE WAS REZONED FROM BSD COMMERCIAL TO SIDE RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD BY CITY COUNCIL IN MARCH OF 2022.

UH, SO PART OF WHAT STAFF USES TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ON AND USES WITHIN OUR ANALYSIS IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, AS WELL AS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT CODE, UH, SHOWN THE SCREEN IS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH IS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH WAS

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THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MIXED USE URBAN FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

UH, THE INTENT STATEMENT IS LISTED AT THE TOP.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT USES THIS GENERALLY ATTRACTS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT, OOPS, SORRY, UH, CONSISTENT WITH, UH, WHAT EXISTS TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT IT DOES TALK ABOUT BUILDING FORM.

AND TYPICALLY, AGAIN, THIS IS A GENERAL APPLICATION BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE DISTRICTS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE THE MIXED USE URBAN DESIGNATION.

IT DOES CALL FOR THREE TO SIX STORIES, BUT BUILDINGS ABOVE SIX STORIES MAY BE APPROPRIATE IN KEY LOCATIONS, UH, WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT SPECIAL AREA PLAN.

THIS IS A MORE REFINED AND MORE SPECIFIC VIEW, UH, OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT AND PROVIDES AREA SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COULD BE APPLIED.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT THAT IS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, IS NOT THE CODE, BUT IT DOES, UH, AID IN INFORMING DECISIONS, UH, WITH DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UH, FOR THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT SPECIAL AREA PLAN.

SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS SITE INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT BENEFITS FROM HIGH VISIBILITY ALONG STATE ROUTE 1 61, A VARIETY OF BUILDING MASSING AND ARCHITECTURE ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE LISTED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SHOPS AT RIVER RIDGE PROPERTY, UH, ARE A DEVELOPMENT THAT FRAMES THE ROUNDABOUT AND CREATES A DISTINCTIVE CHARACTER AS A LANDMARK OF THE DISTRICT.

GENERALLY THREE TO EIGHT STORIES AT THE INTERSECTION WITH CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURE COULD BE, UH, CONSIDERED HERE.

AND THEN A TRANSITION AS YOU GET TO THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE DISTRICT.

AS THIS PROPERTY IS THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT WITHIN THE ZONING CODE.

THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CIDER RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THIS SITE AGAINST SITS AT THE VERY SOUTHERN TIP OF THIS.

UH, AND WHAT WOULD APPLY HERE IS A GATEWAY FEATURE, UH, WITHIN THE CODE.

GATEWAYS ARE CALLED OUT AS POINTS OF IDENTIFICATION THAT PROVIDE A SENSE OF ARRIVAL TO THE AREA.

GATEWAY DESIGN SHALL TYPICALLY, UH, BE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED IN SCALE AND SHALL INCLUDE A COMBINATION OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, LANDSCAPE FEATURES, AND OR PUBLIC OPEN SPACES.

AND THAT'S PULLED DIRECTLY FROM THE CODE.

UH, ANOTHER DOCUMENT TO CONSIDER WITH THIS IS THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT STREET NETWORK MAP.

UH, THIS SHOWS THE EXISTING STREETS SUCH AS RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND WEST DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD, WHICH ARE EXISTING, UH, EXISTING ON THE SITE, ARE ADJACENT TO THE SITE.

UH, BOTH OF THESE ARE CONSIDERED PRINCIPAL FRONTED STREETS BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO OF THE MOST PROMINENT STREETS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

UH, DALE DRIVE AND STONE RIDGE LANE ARE BOTH ANTICIPATED TO BE EXTENDED IN THE FUTURE TO CONTINUE THIS GRIDED NETWORK, UH, THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH HERE IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.

AND FINALLY, THE LAST PLAN I WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, BEFORE GETTING INTO THE PROJECT IS THE EAST BRIDGE STREET, UH, CORRIDOR VISION STUDY.

THIS WAS SHARED BEFORE, BUT IT HAS COMPLETED, BEEN COMPLETED, UH, A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UM, I DID WANNA STATE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY WILL BE TAKING ON, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE ROUNDABOUT AT RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN WEST DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD.

UH, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD INCLUDE PAVEMENT MARKING ADJUSTMENTS TO NARROW LANES AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THE ROUNDABOUT, UH, HOK SIGNALS AT ALL THE CROSSWALK CROSSWALKS TO PROVIDE A SAFER, UH, AND MORE SIGNALED CROSSING FOR RESIDENTS OR, OR FOR, UH, PEDESTRIANS, UH, ADDITIONAL YIELD LANES AND LADDER STYLE CROSSWALKS, CURB RAMP UPDATES, AND THEN LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVALS AT DALE DRIVE INTERSECTION.

UH, SO THE CITY WHEEL IS EXPECTED TO, UH, BEGIN DESIGN WORK ON THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN 26 WITH CONSTRUCTION IN 27.

SO I DID WANT TO PROVIDE THAT.

IT'S NOT PERTINENT, UH, DIRECTLY TO THIS PROJECT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE, UH, TAKING ON REGARDLESS.

SO I WILL DO MY BEST TO SUMMARIZE THIS QUICKLY.

UM, THE PROPERTY, AS IT'S SHOWN, IS PROPOSED WITH THREE BUILDINGS.

UM, PARKING IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BEING REQUESTED TONIGHT.

A PARKING PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED AT A FOUND DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING ABOUT 621 PARKING SPACES, WHICH WILL BE SHARED BETWEEN THE PARKING THAT'S IN THE GARAGE, BUT ALSO WHAT'S EXISTING AT THE SHOPS OF RIVER RIDGE.

SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS THAT'S NEEDED ON THE APPLICANT'S END TO, UM, TO SUPPLY THE, THE PARKING PLAN, BUT ALSO PROVIDE EVIDENCE AS TO WHY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, MEET THE PARKING NEEDED FOR THE SITE.

UM, AND THEN THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S PROVIDED, AGAIN, THAT'S WILL BE FINALIZED WITH THE FUND DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THEY ARE PROVIDING THE APPROPRIATE SIZE FOR, UM, THE USES THAT ARE ON THE SITE.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS WHICH WILL BE CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE PLANNING REPORT.

UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT MASTER PLANNING WITH THE SHOPS, RIVER RIDGE.

UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU

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CONSIDER PARKING OF THE SITE, BUT ALSO THE STREET FRAMEWORK AND JUST HOW THIS IS GOING TO, ONE, MEET THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SPECIAL AREA PLAN, BUT TWO, HOW'S IT GONNA COORDINATE WITH EACH OTHER.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT DEVELOPMENT, THAT IT'S ON AN ISLAND, THAT IT IS WELL INCORPORATED INTO EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO WE HAVE A CONDITION, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT TO BRING BACK, UH, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, UH, WITH A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A GENERAL MASSING OF A MASTER SIGN OR NOT MASTER SIGN PLAN.

MASTER PLAN, UH, FOR THE SHOPS AT RIVER RIDGE, JUST TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK, UM, AND HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK TOGETHER WITH WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT ALSO WHAT'S EXISTING OUT HERE NOW.

UM, INTEGRATION WITH SURROUNDING AREAS.

THIS MOSTLY APPLIES TO THE STREET SCAPES ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND WEST DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD.

AGAIN, THE CITY IS TAKING ON IMPROVEMENTS AT THE ROUNDABOUT AND AT THE DALE DRIVE, UH, INTERSECTION TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE FRIENDLY TO PEDESTRIANS, MORE SAFE TO CROSS.

UM, BUT I THINK THERE, WE WANNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ADDRESS THE STREET SCAPES WITH BOTH OF THESE FRONTAGES.

UM, THE 1 61 AT THE WEST OF GREENVILLE ROAD ACCESS POINT THAT IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, I'LL TRY AND HIGHLIGHT IT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

UH, THIS IS PROPOSED AS A WRITE IN ONLY, UM, THAT IS FULL ACCESS BASED ON REVIEW WITH THE TRAFFIC MOBILITY TEAM AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UM, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE WILL NEED THIS ACCESS POINT, BUT WE ARE GONNA REQUIRE THAT IT IS EMERGENCY ONLY.

UM, SO THIS IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REDESIGNED IN A WAY THAT IS GOING TO NOT ALLOW STANDARD TRAFFIC TO ACCESS IT, UH, INCLUDING BOX TRUCKS OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE SERVICING THE SITE.

UM, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON WHAT THE STREET SCAPE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE.

UM, IT'S LIKELY THAT IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE YOUR TYPICAL ENTRY DRIVE INTO THE SITE, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IS VERY CLEAR, BUT THAT EMS SERVICES ARE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS ADEQUATELY SHOULD THEY NEED TO.

AND THEN FINALLY, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.

UM, I WILL NOT DIVE INTO THIS OTHER THAN THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THERE ARE TWO WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSION OF DALE DRIVE FOR THE MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZE AND THEN THE DRIVE WIDTH OF THE EAST WEST DRIVE, UM, AS THAT IS WIDER TO ACCOMMODATE DELIVERIES INTO THE SITE, UH, AND TRUCKS GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE FOR STAFF'S ABILITY TO REVIEW THIS ADEQUATELY.

UH, WE HAVE SPLIT THIS BUILDING AT THE INTERSECTION INTO TWO.

UH, THIS DOES NOT QUITE IMPACT.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS IS LOOKED AT.

IT DOES IMPACT HOW WE REVIEW IT THOUGH.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE NORTH CORRIDOR BUILDING, WHICH IS THE CONDO AND THEN THE SOUTH CORRIDOR, WHICH IS THE HOTEL.

THE HOTEL BUILDING AS SHOWN IS SEVEN STORIES AS MEASURED FROM THE LOBBY LEVEL.

UH, BUT WHAT CAN BE SEEN FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS NINE STORIES.

UH, THERE ARE THREE LEVELS OF PARKING GARAGE, WHICH TWO OF THEM ARE EXPOSED ON THIS SIDE.

UH, I WON'T DIVE INTO THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THIS, BUT THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRED FOR THE, THE GARAGE PORTION ON 1 61 AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

AGAIN, THIS IS A PRETTY SIMILAR REQUESTS THAT WE SEE TO A LOT OF, UH, GARAGES AND BRIDGE PARK.

ONE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS IS IT IS ALONG A PRINCIPAL FRONTED STREET, BUT GIVEN THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE, AND BY WORKING WITH US, THEY'VE DONE A LOT TO TRY AND SCREEN THE GARAGE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO REALLY LIMIT WHAT YOU ARE SEEING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER PERSPECTIVE THERE ON THE SCREEN.

THOSE BOTTOM TWO FLOORS WOULD BE WHERE THE GARAGE IS, WHERE THEY'RE STARTING TO ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATE THAT INTO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.

UM, THERE ARE FIVE WAIVERS AT THIS TIME WITH THIS BUILDING.

UM, I WON'T TOUCH MANY OF THEM.

THE ONE I DID WANNA TOUCH IS THE HEIGHT, THE MINIMUM MAXIMUM STORIES, UM, AGAIN, BASED ON HOW STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO REVIEW IT AGAINST WITH THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WAIVERS, UM, BUT ALSO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UH, PROPOSED INCREASE IN THE HEIGHT.

AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THE WAIVER REQUIREMENTS, UM, HERE AT THE END.

NINE STORIES IS MEASURED FROM WEST OF GRANVILLE ROAD.

UM, THERE ARE FOUR WAIVERS WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

AND THEN THE OFFICE, UM, WHICH IS A CORRIDOR BUILDING TYPE, IS FOUR STORIES, HAS OFFICE AND RETAIL.

INSIDE THERE IS A CONDITION, UH, DIRECTLY TO AND TIED TO THE BUILDING DESIGN.

UM, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THIS AND TALKING WITH THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WORKED CONSISTENTLY WITH, UM, SINCE THEY HAD REMOVED THAT ELBOW DRIVE.

THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING HAS CHANGED A LOT, SO WE JUST HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO, BUT GENERALLY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE BUILDING AND HOW IT'S MASSING, HOW IT'S MASKED, WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

IT'S JUST MORE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF IT AT THIS POINT.

UM,

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SO FOR THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION, I DID WANT TO INCLUDE THE WAIVER REVIEW CRITERIA.

UH, A WAIVER IS A PROCESS THAT IS DEFINED IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT TO ALLOW DEVIATIONS FROM SPECIFIC CODE REQUIREMENTS.

UH, THESE CAN BE GRANTED ONLY BY THE PLAYING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, A REQUEST FOR A DEVIATION IS PERMISSIBLE TO ANY REQUIREMENT IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT EXCEPT FOR ALLOWING DIFFERENT USES OR DIFFERENT OPEN SPACE TYPES.

UM, WAIVERS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, WERE ANTICIPATED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED AS SUCH.

AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT TOOLS TO CREATE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS UNIQUE FROM ONE ANOTHER, UH, WITH DIFFERENT DEVELOP IN THE AREA.

SO THE CRITERIA FOR THESE ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

UH, ALL OF THESE ARE TO BE CONSIDERED.

THIS IS, I'LL SAY SIMILAR IN COMPARISON TO A VARIANCE.

HOWEVER, VARIANCES ARE INTENDED TO, UH, FIX ISSUES OR, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT REALLY USUALLY A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

THEY ARE ON THE BACKEND.

WAIVERS ARE BUILT IN AS A PROCESS AND INTENDED TO BE A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND THEN ARE NEGOTIATED AND, UM, ARE REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WITH THAT, THERE ARE 14 WAIVERS FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

THOSE ARE LISTED ON YOUR SCREEN.

THE CRITERIA FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAVE EITHER BEEN MET WITH CONDITIONS WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE OR WAIVERS.

AND THEN FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET BASED ON STAFF'S ANALYSIS.

SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE THREE MOTIONS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. HASELL.

THAT WAS A LOT OF STUFF THERE AT THE END.

I'M SURE WE'LL COME BACK TO IT THOUGH.

UM, SO NOW I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF.

MR. GARVIN, YOU KNEW YOU WERE COMING TO YOU NEXT.

DONE ACTUALLY.

WOW.

I ALSO HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

MULTIMODAL THOROUGHFARE PLAN, EXCUSE ME.

MR. ALEXANDER, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS, ZACH.

THE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE SPECIAL AREA PLAN, THAT STONE RIDGE LANE EXTENSION, IS THAT ENVISIONED ONE OF THE DRAWINGS SEEMS TO SUGGEST IT'S TO THE NORTH OF THE CURRENT RETAIL BUILDINGS.

UM, WHERE IS THAT RELATIVE TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT? HI, TINA WASKOWITZ, TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY.

SO WE DO SHOW, UM, THE CONCEPT OF STONE RIDGE LANE EXTENDING FROM ITS EXISTING, UM, LOCATION, I WANNA SAY AT SHAMROCK.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I HAVE THAT RIGHT IN MY HEAD.

AND THEN IT EXTENDING WEST IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM OVER TO RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN THE CONCEPTUAL, UM, THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

IT, IT JUST WANTS TO SHOW THAT THAT'S A CONNECTION WITHOUT HAVING ANY TRUE ALIGNMENT TO IT.

SO THAT HAS NOT BEEN SET AT THIS POINT.

SO IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY ON THE DEVELOPMENT? CORRECT.

IS THERE ANY TIMELINE FOR THIS OR THE DALE DRIVE EXTENSION? THIS BEING STONE RIDGE, YOU MEAN? YEAH.

NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

I DON'T THINK EITHER OF THOSE WOULD BE IN THE CURRENT FIVE YEAR WINDOW FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

UM, THE, THE PROJECT THAT ZACH DID MENTION, UM, IS INCLUDED IN THE NEWLY ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR DESIGN IN 26 AND CONSTRUCTION IN 27.

AND THEN I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

THE, UM, SO MUCH OF THE PAR, YOUR PARKING PLAN, WHICH WILL BE, I KNOW SUBMITTED LATER, BUT IT'S, THE NUMBERS ARE AT LEAST DEPENDENT ON THE EXCESS PARKING THAT'S, UH, CURRENTLY A PART OF THE, UH, RIVER BRIDGE DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU LOOKED AT HOW YOUR LANDSCAPE PLANT MAKES LINKAGES AND MAKES IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT TO THAT, UM, MOST OF THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS ARE ALONG THE RETAIL FRONTAGE OF RIVER RIDGE AND THEN FEEDING DOWN TOWARDS THE OFFICE BUILDING.

THAT'S REALLY THE BEST WAY TO GET IN BECAUSE DALE DRIVE KIND SEVERS THAT PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT FROM THE PARKING.

SO PEDESTRIANS REALLY MOVE ALONG THE BUILDING FRONTAGES TO THE WEST.

IS THAT, I GUESS THAT'LL BE DEVELOPED AT A LATER DATE.

IT WOULD BE PART OF A FUTURE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT ZACH REFERRED TO.

THAT'S ALL.

THANKS.

THANK YOU MS. HART.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, VERY HELPFUL.

UM, QUESTION JUST ABOUT WHEN YOU DID THE, UM, THE BALLOON.

IT'S NOW BEEN A COUPLE YEARS OR

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SO.

HOW FAR CAN I ASK THAT QUESTION ABOUT, UM, AT THAT TIME, HOW MANY STORIES DID YOU TAKE US TO AT THAT POINT, AND WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE IT TO HAVE TO GO HIGHER NOW OR? SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, UM, THEN THE BUILDING WAS ROUGHLY THE SAME SIZE THAT IT WAS NOW, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS APPLICATION.

SO IF EFFECTIVELY WHAT WE HAD TO, TO DO, 'CAUSE WE COULDN'T SEE THE BALLOONS.

SO WE HAD THE, THE, WE HAD FOLKS THAT WERE STANDING OVER WHERE THE BUILDING IS.

SO WE WERE BASICALLY IN THE MONTGOMERY INN SITE.

AND THEN WE HAD FOLKS THAT WERE STANDING, UM, AT THE END OF MARTIN PLACE.

SO BASICALLY THE, THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO OUR SITE, IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET AWAY.

AND FROM FROM THAT SITE, YOU COULDN'T SEE ANY OF THE, THE BALLOONS MM-HMM .

WHEN WE TOOK IT UP TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, WE BASICALLY HAD TO DOUBLE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING BEFORE WE COULD SEE THEM CREST THE TOP OF THE TREES AT THAT POINT.

THE TOP OF THE TREES.

AND THEN HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH WENDY'S AND ALSO THE SHOPS AND HOW THAT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER? BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GONNA, I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT THEM AND YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

MAKING THAT REPORT.

UM, WENDY'S HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY GOOD PARTNER FOR US MM-HMM .

UM, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT JUST WORKING WITH THEM HERE, UH RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING SOME OF THEIR, THE WAY THAT THEY ACCESS THEIR RESTAURANT, BUT WE ALSO PURCHASE LAND FOR THEM FOR J BLOCK, WE'VE BEEN REBUILDING THAT ROAD.

SO THEY HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE TO WORK WITH.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF, RIGHT.

UM, WE DON'T OWN IT.

I, YOU KNOW, I I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, THAT THAT WENDY'S IS GONNA MOVE ANYTIME SOON.

UM, BUT I I, I WOULD BE REMISS OF TO NOT SAY THAT.

LIKE, WE'RE ALL THINKING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? AND I THINK THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR RIVER RIDGE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M A, I'M A PLANNER AND AN ARCHITECT AT HEART.

LIKE I WANT SHARP LANE TO GO AWAY, JUST AS BAD AS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN DOES.

AND I WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.

AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT EVEN REFLECTED IN THE PARKING PLANS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S A PART OF THE, THE BEAUTY OF BRIDGE PARK AS IT'S CONTINUED TO DEVELOP IS THAT THE FUTURE PHASES ARE, ARE ABLE TO MESH WELL WITH EXISTING PHASES.

AND SO THE, THE, THE PARKING, UM, I THINK IS THE SHARED ANALYSIS OF THAT HAS WORKED OUT REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFULLY.

UM, CURRENT THINKING IS THAT, THAT, THAT SOUTHERN MOST BUILDING, UM, THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE THE EXTENSION OF STONE RIDGE PROBABLY STAYS THERE.

UM, AND WHAT GETS DEVELOPED IS EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

THAT'S ALL WELL INTO THE FUTURE, BUT, UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT IT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE TO.

AND THEN I'M THINKING ABOUT WENDY'S.

I NOTICED THAT, UM, I SEE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT WENDY'S WALK OVER TO WENDY'S FOR LUNCH, WHICH IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT THEY MAY HAVE SOME INSIGHT AND MAYBE YOU'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THAT WALK TO THIS NEW SECTION THAT, HAVE YOU HAD ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR WHAT IT'S LIKE WALKING FOR YOU FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER? OH, WELL, ABSOLUTELY.

I, I MEAN, I, I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE MADE THAT WALK TOO MANY TIMES.

I'VE DONE IT ONCE OR TWICE.

I THINK THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE, THE, WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS THE, THE 1 61 IMPROVEMENTS, THE ULTIMATE BRT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN ALONG THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR LATER.

I THINK ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO DO AMAZING THINGS FOR WHAT 1 61 IS GONNA FEEL LIKE LONG TERM.

SO, AND MAYBE THIS IS A TRANSPORTATION CITY QUESTION, BUT WHEN THAT WHOLE AREA, WHEN YOU'RE KIND OF COMING AROUND, UM, ON RIVERSIDE, WHEN YOU'RE ON RIVERSIDE AND YOU'RE KIND OF COMING AROUND THAT BEND BEFORE YOU GET TO THE CIRCLE, ARE WE THINKING ABOUT BIKERS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW? IT'S NOT THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE, AND I'M JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF THAT'S A THOUGHT WHEN WE'RE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION.

AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS SHOWING, UM, PROPOSED SIDEWALK AND BIKEWAY ALONG, UM, BACK A CURB FOR BOTH THAT RIVERSIDE FRONTAGE AND ALONG ONE 60.

YEAH, I NOTICED THAT IT'S A SIDEWALK.

SO YOU WANT THE BIKES UP THERE TOO? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? IS THAT, SO THE, THESE ARE, THESE SHOULD BE FAIRLY GENEROUS SIDEWALKS.

UM, WHAT WE'VE FOUND, UM, PARTICULARLY ON BRIDGE PARK AVENUE IS THAT THERE, UM, IS AN INTENDED BIKE AND INTENDED PEDESTRIAN SPACE THERE.

THERE'S THAT GRANITE BAND IN THE SIDEWALK.

IF YOU'VE EVER WALKED IN THAT AREA, IT'S LARGELY IGNORED.

LIKE THAT, THAT PEDESTRIAN BIKE SPACE JUST BECOMES SHARED.

UM, AND WE JUST WANT THAT TO FEEL GENEROUS AND WELCOMING TO ANY, UM, NON-MOTORIZED USER.

AND THEN, UM, THERE IS BUS LOCATION IN THAT DIRECTION TOO, UM, ON 1 61, IS THAT CORRECT? THE, UM, CODA PARK AND RIDE IS RIGHT OFF OF, OF DALE, RIGHT? JUST NORTH OF THE SITE.

TO THINK ABOUT SEATING THE OTHER DAY? I NOTICED SOMEONE SITTING ON THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, WAITING FOR THE BUS AND IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY? ACTUALLY, MONDAY NIGHT COUNSEL, UM, APPROVED A BID FOR, FOR BUS SHELTERS AND, AND ONE IS AT, UM, 1 61 AND DALE.

AND THEN WOULD THERE BE OPPORTUNITIES

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UH, TINA, DON'T GO AWAY.

MR. ALEXANDER HAS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

BECAUSE I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION, UM, TO KATHY'S BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, IT'S SHOWING THE WALK THAT'S GOING ON RIVERSIDE, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT FRIENDSHIP VILLAGE AND THERE'S A SHARED PATH USE PATH AND THERE'S JUST DEAD ENDS IN THERE.

DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY PLANS TO BEGIN TO LINK THOSE? THERE'S A LARGE, SORRY.

THERE IS A LARGER REGIONAL INITIATIVE THAT'S TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT, UM, THROUGH TSI, WHICH STANDS FOR TRANSIT SUPPORTED INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, CODA IS, UM, ONE OF THE MAIN PARTNERS WITH THAT.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE VOTERS PASSED LAST YEAR TO SUPPORT, UM, THROUGH THAT LINK US PROGRAM.

SO I THINK WITH, UM, WITH THAT FUNDING AND REGIONAL COOPERATION, WE COULD START TO MAKE THAT A MORE MEANINGFUL CONNECTION ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UH, MS. HARDER, ARE YOU NOT FINISHED? MR. CHINOOK? UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, CONSIDERING THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF 1 61 NORTH, NORTH 1 61, THE AND BRIDGE PARK, LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, YOU DID A, UM, A STUDY THAT SHOWED THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCES.

IS THAT STILL LIKE, AS THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCES ACROSS 1 61 TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW? WE STILL, THIS I ASSUME GOES, PROBABLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT THE SCALE, THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO THE SCALE, WE'RE WE'RE STILL FILLING, THE SCALE IS APPROPRIATE TO BRIDGE PARK.

SO O ONE OF THE DRIVING FACTORS ON THE, IT'S MORE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S APPROXIMATE TO THE, UH, AC IS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE GUIDELINES THAT HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED WAY BEFORE THIS PROJECT WAS TO CREATE A SORT OF A GATEWAY, A LANDMARKED, UH, ENTRY.

UM, OUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IS 114 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND THAT INCLUDES THE, UH, SCREENING ON THE UPPER LEVEL.

UH, THE AC IS 101, UH, FEET.

NOW THE, THE 13 FEET DIFFERENCE HAS A LITTLE BIT TO DO WITH STRUCTURE.

IT HAS A LITTLE BIT TO DO WITH SITE, BUT WHAT THEY DID AT THE AC WAS THEY, THEY DID THEIR EVENT SPACE, THEIR BANQUET SPACE, WHICH HAS HIGHER CEILINGS IN THE EXCHANGE ADJACENT RATHER THAN WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE AC.

SO IT KEPT IT A LITTLE MORE COMPACT.

WE HAVE IN OUR LOBBY LEVEL, ALL OF THAT EVENT SPACE, UH, ALLOWS FOR SOME OF THAT ADDED HEIGHT IN OUR OVERALL BUILDING.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT KIND OF PUSHED US UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, SOME OF THE VIEWS THAT WE WERE SHOWING IS REALLY THE STUDY OF IS, IS 13 FEET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS IN EIGHT STORY FACADES.

IS THAT REALLY, UH, A SIGNIFICANT VARIATION? WE THINK THEY LOOK VERY COMPATIBLE.

ESPECIALLY SEEING THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S LOWER IN GENERAL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION TOO ON THAT CONNECTIVITY PIECE.

SO IT, IT, IT FEELS THAT THE RESTAURANT AND SOME OF THESE AMENITIES, THE SPEAKEASY AND ALL THOSE GREAT STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT, IS, I GUESS TALK, TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ANTICIPATION, HOW THE PUBLIC USE THAT OR ARE YOU TRYING TO DRIVE TRAFFIC FROM BRIDGE PARKER? IS THIS PRIMARILY JUST FOR THE OFFICE, THE CONDO AND THE HOTEL? THE HOTEL USERS? I BET YOU ONE TIME I, I DO .

UM, WE WANT EVERYBODY, UH, TO USE THESE, THE, THE, THERE ARE FOUR DIFFERENT F AND B LOCATIONS WITHIN, UM, THE, JUST THE, THE HOTEL FOOTPRINT THAT'S NOT INCLUDING ANYTHING THAT MIGHT GO AT THE BASE OF THE OFFICE.

UH, BUT THERE ARE ONLY 130 KEYS AND 24 CONDOS.

SO IF WE DON'T BRING THE PUBLIC IN THOSE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO VERY WELL.

SO THE INTENTION IS, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A HOTEL OUT IN, UM, OUT IN SCOTTSDALE CALLED THE GLOBAL AMBASSADOR THAT WE'VE, IF, OR ANYBODY THAT'S SEEN IT.

WE'VE REALLY LOOKED TO THAT AS A, AS A STARTING PLACE FOR HOW WE WANT THIS TO FEEL.

UM, AND IT, IT'S, IT'S AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE YOU WALK IN AND IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY'S LIVING ROOM.

IT REALLY BECOMES THIS INCREDIBLY VIBRANT SPACE WHERE IT'S, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY GOOD PUBLIC F AND B THAT JUST HAPPENS TO HAVE HOTEL ROOMS. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT, IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN THERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ALL JUST, THEY ALL JUST SORT OF FLOW TOGETHER.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GO THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE STAYING AT THAT HOTEL OR NOT.

TO THE GETTING ACROSS 1 61.

SO THEN, THEN THAT ADDS TO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THOSE, UM, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS

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MAYBE WE NEED TO CONSIDER THOSE HAPPENING AS PART OF THIS TOO.

UM, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE, BUT I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS JUST YOU'RE DRIVING A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY PERHAPS HAS THAT ADDRESSED IN 2027.

IF, IF THAT HAPPENS IN 27, THOSE WILL BE BE BEFORE OUR BUILDING.

SURE.

FINISHED ANTICIPATE.

AND THEN ONE OTHER QUICK DETAILED QUESTION.

SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PRINCIPLE FRONTAGE ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

THE, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IT'S KINDA HARD TO COMPREHEND.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THE SERVICE CORRIDOR TO THE, SO WHATEVER THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, HOW IS THAT SERVICE CORRIDOR SCREENED? IS THERE, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE MAYBE A WALL.

I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S LANDSCAPE SCREENING, BUT IS THERE A WALL OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S, BECAUSE THAT'S AGAIN, BEING PRINCIPLE FRONTAGE.

I THINK THAT, AND THAT'S GONNA BE THAT KINDA THAT FIRST VIEW WHEN YOU'RE COMING FROM THE SOUTH.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A COMBINATION OF AN EXTENSION OF THE, THE BUILDING FACADE IN THE ARCHITECTURE AND THEN, UH, LANDSCAPE AS WELL.

SO THE WALL WILL EXTEND AROUND THAT CURVE, ESSENTIALLY IT, IT TAPERS DOWN AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS, IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH LANDSCAPE.

THE WALL KIND OF IS, IS ALSO RETAINING, 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME GRADE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE SERVICE CORE AND, UH, GRADE ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

SO, OKAY.

BUT IT, BUT IT WILL BE HIGH ENOUGH TO PROVIDE SCREENING FROM TRUCKS, LOADING THAT, AND IN COMBINATION WITH THE LANDSCAPING.

YOU GENERALLY CAN STAY UP.

YOU PROBABLY ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A, UM, I I, I I PICK UP ON WHERE MR. CHINOOK LEFT OFF.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONE VIEW THAT YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN US OF THIS BUILDING IS COMING FROM SOUTH AND LOOKING AT THE LOADING DOCK AND THE END.

I, WHAT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT ILLUSTRATES WHAT THAT END MIGHT LOOK LIKE? I, AND I RE I ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE AGAIN, I WOULD, I VIEW THIS AS A GATEWAY LOCATION AND FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

AND SO YEAH, THE FIRST THING THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS THAT LOADING DOCK WALL.

AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SEE FROM THE, UH, THE BUILDING.

ARE THEY DOING ANYTHING TO KIND OF CELEBRATE THAT AS A GATEWAY? YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE IT'S THE RIVERSIDE RENDERING THAT SHOWS THE BANQUET.

IT'S TOWARDS THE END.

GIMME A MOMENT TO TRY AND PULL IT UP.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

THE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S THE FIRST IMPRESSION, NOT ONLY OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT REALLY OF BRIDGE PARK.

ALSO, AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO WAS TO ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE BUILDING DESIGN.

FIRST OF ALL IS THE, IS THE SIZE AND THE SCALE.

SO THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS REALLY THIS CRESCENDO OF GOING FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH AND KIND OF GROWING IN SIZE, LEADING INTO, UH, THE AC AND THE REST OF BRIDGE PARK AND, AND THEREFORE IN REVERSE COMING DOWN IN SCALE FOR THE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND EVENTUALLY THE HOMES, UH, DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

THE OTHER IS TO NOT ONLY HAVE A UNIQUE CHARACTER IN THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT REALLY TO ACTIVATE THE VISUAL OF THAT EXTERIOR SPACE.

SO THE, THE BANQUET MEETING AND EVENT SPACES ALL HAVE THAT EXTERIOR TERRACE THAT REALLY STARTS TO ACTIVATE, UH, THE FACADE.

SORRY, ZACH, I'M RUNNING OUT OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT AS IT TURNED OUT.

SO I DON'T, I THINK IT WAS IN OUR PRESENTATION.

YEAH, IT'S IN, IN OURS.

SORRY.

YOU WANT ME TO GO TO IT? I KNOW WHERE IT IS.

IS THIS RIGHT THERE? OH, GO BACK.

YEP.

SO, UH, KIM, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPAND THE VIEW TO THE RIGHT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU SEE IN THE, IN THE FACADE WHERE THERE'S THAT, THAT CURVE, THAT KIND OF BROWNISH COPPER CURVE.

BELOW THAT IS THE INSET WALL IS THE BACK OF THE BANQUET ROOM.

IT'S A 600 PERSON BANQUET SPACE.

SO ALL OF THAT ACTIVE EXTERIOR TERRACE HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN GET OUT ONTO IT.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT EFFECTIVELY IMPACTS THE SCALE BECAUSE YOU SEE HUMANS, THE OTHER IS THE LIGHT AND THE GLOW AND THE ACTIVITY THAT WILL HAPPEN BECOMES PART OF THAT, UH, IMPRESSION OF THE BUILDING.

AS YOU'RE GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH, THE, THE DENSITY OF ALL THAT LANDSCAPING, THE, THE TIERS, THE PLATEAUS, AND THE SORT OF THE BANKING UP, IT REALLY STARTS TO CREATE THAT SCREEN IN A COMBINATION OF LANDSCAPE AND ARCHITECTURE.

AND SO RATHER THAN JUST A, YOU KNOW, A CONCRETE WALL THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TRUCKS BEHIND YOU, IT'S LIKE THE CONTINUATION OF THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING IS REALLY WHAT CREATES THAT SCREEN.

SO IT SORT OF FILTERS DOWN INTO THE LANDSCAPE.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF, THE PODIUM IS GIVING YOU THAT KIND OF GATEWAY FEEL.

BUT, BUT NOT LETTING IT JUST COME TO AN ABRUPT STOP.

THE, THE HOTEL THAT, THAT CORNER, IS THAT SOMETHING TO SPEND SOME MORE, HAVE YOU SOME MORE TIME THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT YES.

BUT I WAS THINKING WHERE IT MEETS THE, THE TOWER WITH

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WE'RE JUST AT PRELIMINARY .

JUST YES.

IF YOU'RE ON THAT, THAT BIKE PATH OR THE PEDESTRIAN PATH, YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND TO, TO GET TO THE, GET INTO THE BUILDING.

SO I REMEMBER IN THE LAST ITERATION YOU HAD SHOWN SOME KIND OF A CONNECTION COMING UP, KIND OF LIKE THE, THE LIN LIBRARY HAS THOSE, THOSE STEPS THAT COULD TAKE YOU UP FROM THE STREET LEVEL UP TO THE PLAZA LEVEL.

AND I, I JUST, I WAS CURIOUS WHETHER YOU HAD THOUGHT YEAH.

SO THERE'S ABOUT THAT.

IT'S MAYBE IT'S HARD TO, THERE'S SOME LIKE KINDA LITTLE SECRET WALKWAYS AND ENTRY POINTS AND I'LL LET JOHN TALK.

OH, .

SO ARE YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM LIKE THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE CORRIDOR? YEAH.

COMING UP TO AND ENGAGING WITH LIKE, THE ACTIVE LEVEL OF THE BUILDING SO THAT PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SOMEHOW INVITED IN AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO DISCOVER AN ENTRY SOMEWHERE AROUND ON 1 61.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROGRAM TO GET TO ON THAT SIDE THAT'S READILY ACCESSIBLE AT OFF THE STREET.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO UP SEVERAL FEET TO GET TO THAT, TO THAT LEVEL.

AND WE'VE STUDIED THIS CORNER ELEMENT HERE QUITE A BIT.

AND FROM THAT RIVERSIDE DRIVE SIDE, IT'S EVEN GREATER AMOUNT OF STAIRS BECAUSE RIVERSIDE DRIVE, THE LOW POINT AT THIS CORNER IS ON THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE CORNER, LIKE JUST BELOW THAT LOBBY IN THE POOL, IT RIVERSIDE AS IT WRAPS AROUND TO 1 61 GOING EAST IS CLIMBING UP.

SO WE'RE CONNECTING THAT CORNER GREEN SPACE WITH A HIGHER POINT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF STAIRS AND TERRACING AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT HIGH POINT GRADE CHANGE THERE.

I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD.

I, THE ONLY THING THAT, AND I'M NOT SURE THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION AT ALL, BUT JUST TO CALL ATTENTION TO AS WELL, THERE IS AN, AN ADDITIONAL, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN AT THE, AT THE FAR END, THE FAR SOUTH END, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTION THAT THAT CONNECTS THIS UP INTO RIVER RIDGE, INTO THAT OPEN SOURCE.

MY, MY FAVORITE LITTLE WALKWAY.

WE HAVE MAINTAINED THAT THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

IT DOESN'T CONNECT YOU DIRECTLY INTO THE BUILDING, BUT IT GETS YOU UP TO THAT LEVEL WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY PEDESTRIAN ENTRY EXPERIENCE IS UP AT THAT LEVEL.

SO, SO I'M, I'M KIND OF WORKING MYSELF AROUND, AROUND THE BUILDING BECAUSE IN THE LAST, UM, ITERATION OF THIS, YOU HAD KIND OF THE MONUMENTAL STAIRS COMING UP FROM THE ROUNDABOUT UP TO YOUR AMENITY LEVEL.

AND I FEEL LIKE YOU WENT THE OPPOSITE WAY INSTEAD OF KIND OF THIS REALLY LARGE, INVITING, MONUMENTAL KIND OF GATEWAY STAIRS SAID, COME ON IN.

IT WAS KINDA LIKE, NO, HERE'S SOME LANDSCAPE TO HIDE EVERYTHING AND YOU CAN MAYBE FIND YOUR WAY THROUGH IT TO GET TO THAT LEVEL.

IS THAT, HAVE YOU SHIFTED YOUR THINKING THAT WAY VERSUS THE WHAT YOU PRESENTED LAST TIME? YEAH, SO THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THAT.

ONE WAS WE WANTED TO TRY TO USE THE LANDSCAPE TO BETTER CONNECT THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE UP, RIGHT? AND THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF GRADE CHANGE THAT REQUIRES US TO DO THAT.

AND SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS, I THINK IT WAS JUST EFFECTIVELY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IT JUST BECAME STAIRS.

AND SO IN OUR MINDS, WE, WE TRIED TO GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF WHAT IF THIS WAS MORE ABOUT A PUBLIC OPEN SPACE THAT WAS ACCESSIBLE TO BOTH SIDES THAN A MONUMENTAL STARE THAT FELT OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT? SO THERE IS STILL, YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT TO THE BUILDING.

YOU CAN STILL TAKE THAT PATH, BUT IT, IT, IT FEELS MORE ABOUT ONE THAN THE OTHER.

IT IT WAS A PURPOSEFUL MOVE.

SO, SO JASON, I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, THAT THESE SMALLER SCALE PATIOS THERE THAT PEOPLE CAN OCCUPY, I THINK ARE MORE IN LINE WITH THE QUANTITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO USE THAT SPACE.

SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE, UM, AGAIN, IT, IT, WHAT THIS IS BLOCK Y OF BRIDGE OF BRIDGE PARK, CORRECT.

THIS IS PART OF BRIDGE PARK.

AND WHAT I'M STRUGGLING IS, IS THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS OF AS BRIDGE PARK AND THEN THIS NEW PIECE.

AND WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROUNDABOUT CROSSINGS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY WANTS TO INVITE MORE PEOPLE TO COME OVER HERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU GET TO THAT SIDE AND, AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IT'S VERY TENUOUS IN TERMS OF HOW DO I GET INTO THE PROJECT, UM,

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AT THAT POINT.

AND I THINK THE LAST, AT YOUR, AT THE LAST, UH, PRESENTATION WE TALKED ABOUT GATEWAY CORNER, PUBLIC ART, YOU KNOW, SOME, AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CHALLENGES WITH GRADE AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CHALLENGES WITH PARKING, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S ENDING UP WITH A LOT OF BLANK WALLS, LARGE WALLS, SCALE, YOU KNOW, 20 FEET, 20 FOOT WALLS.

I I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THE GRAY CHANGE IS, RIGHT? TO GET UP TO THAT LEVEL.

AND I THINK THAT'S, IT'S CREATING A PROJECT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE I'M INVITED IN.

IT'S LIKE ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A FORTRESS AT THAT CORNER NOW.

AND TO ACTUALLY GET IN, YOU GOTTA LIKE WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND AND COME IN THE FRONT DOOR AND THEN YOU GET THAT AMAZING EXPERIENCE, RIGHT.

THAT THIS PROJECT IS, IS BUILT INTO THIS.

BUT THAT'S THE PART, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M STRUGGLING WITH RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND I'M, I'M, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

I, I, I KNOW THAT I I'M SURE YOU STUDIED THIS 10 DIFFERENT WAYS, RIGHT? AND IT, IT, AGAIN, I, WHAT, WHAT YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION TO BEGIN WITH, IS IT, YOU COME WITH, WITH A MORE LANDSCAPE SOLUTION TO THAT.

UM, AND I JUST, AGAIN, WE CAN COME BACK TO MORE COMMENTS ON THAT IN, IN DELIBERATION, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS KIND OF MY, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

UM, AND I THINK, OH, UH, THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S ON THE SOUTH CORNER BY THE LOADING DOCK, UM, IS THE, AND IT'S, YOU'RE COUNTING THAT AS OPEN SPACE.

IS IT OCCUPIABLE? IS THAT, AND WHO, WHO IS THAT OPEN SPACE SERVING IN THAT CORNER OF THE PROJECT? IT'S REALLY JUST A SMALL OPEN SPACE.

TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT OF THAT WALKWAY CONNECTION PLACE TO STOP AND REST.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A, A LONG LINGERING SORT OF OPEN SPACE.

YOU'RE CLIMBING A GOOD DEAL OF GRADE CHANGE THERE.

IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD LITTLE STOP ALONG THE WAY.

IT JUST FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE IT'S TOTALLY ON THE EDGE.

IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SERVICE WALL OR WHATEVER IS WHERE THAT WALL GOES.

UM, OKAY.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT? NO, KIM, BUT I, I DO HAVE TO LEAVE UNFORTUNATELY FOR, TO GET HOME FOR PRIOR OBLIGATION, WHICH THEY KNOW OF.

I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH, YOU CAN TAKE MY, UH, COMMENTS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

AND I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT TOO.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT AS CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED.

I LIKE JUST TO COMMENT KIMBERLY QUICK ON WHAT YOU NOTED ON THAT CORNER.

I LIKE THE CHANGES.

I THINK THEY WANT TO FUNNEL THE, THE WALKING UP TO DALE DRIVE ON THAT ENTRANCE, IF THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY EXPLAINED.

SO SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I, I, UH, AS IS WITH THE CONDITIONS, UH, ALSO IN THE WAIVERS, I'M SUPPORTIVE, SO I WOULD VOTE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE NOW, SO THANK YOU MR. D.

IF NO MORE, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.

SO ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, COME UP TO THE PODIUM, TURN ON THE MICROPHONE.

SO THERE'S A GREEN LIGHT.

AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

STRUCTURE, THIS IS TALLER THAN THE AC BUILDING.

DON'T FORGET YOUR MIC MICROPHONE BUTTON.

MY NAME'S TOM.

COULD YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE? NEED TO PRESS YOUR MICROPHONE BUTTON RIGHT THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MY NAME'S TOM KROMER.

UH, I LIVE AT 64 50 MARTIN PLACE.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR 32 YEARS AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT, UH, WE ARE THAT, UH, THAT GREAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS.

WE'RE CLOSER THAN ANYBODY ELSE WHEN IT COMES TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

I'M ALSO GLAD TO HEAR MR. WE SAY THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO UPHOLD THE CODES AND ORDINANCES THAT, UH, DUBLIN HAS PASSED.

THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, I WAS HERE WHEN THE CITY, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, WERE HEARING ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE A WAIVER TO MOVE THIS FROM A THREE STORY, UM, UM, CODE A LIMIT ON THE BUILDINGS TO SIX.

AND, UH, WE GAVE COMMENTS AT THAT TIME.

UM, IT WAS APPROVED THAT THEY COULD GO TO SIX STORIES.

AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROPOSAL WITH NINE STORIES.

UM, THAT'S THREE TIMES WHAT WE USED TO HAVE THAT, THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME.

UM, ORIGINALLY THE HEIGHT WASN'T SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE FOR ME.

I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WATCHED THE BALLOONS FLOAT AND THE DRONES FLY AND EVEN ATTENDED THE INVITATION TO GO TO THE TOP OF THE AC HOTEL AND LOOK AT HOW THIS WASN'T REALLY GOING TO IMPACT THE, UH, THE SIGHT LINE THERE.

UH, WE COULD SEE THEIR TREETOPS FROM THE TOP OF THAT, BUT NOW WITH THIS

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WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT SIGHT LINE GOING, LOOKING EAST ON ALL THE BLOCKS, THE AC IS ONE OF THE TALLEST.

THIS IS NOW TALLER THAN THAT.

AND IF I CAN ASK, 'CAUSE MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE THE TALLEST STRUCTURE IN DUBLIN ON THAT CORNER.

THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN THE THREE STORIES WE TOLD WERE, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT WAS ZONED FOR THAT.

WE MIGHT GET SIX NOW WE'RE GONNA GET NINE.

WE'RE GONNA GET THE TALLEST STRUCTURE IN DUBLIN.

SO THAT DOES CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT.

IT, IT FEELS LIKE FLYING THE BALLOONS AND THE DRONES WERE A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, CIRCUS STUFF THAT KEEP US A LITTLE BIT DISTRACTED.

I UNDERSTAND DUBLIN WANTS TO FILL THAT HOLE.

IT'S UGLY.

THERE'S A GATEWAY THERE AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

BUT WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE WERE TOP AT THE AC THAT THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A STEP DOWN.

IT'S STEPPING UP, NOT STEPPING DOWN.

AND I AGREE WHERE THE LOADING DOCK AND STUFF IS, THAT'S KIND OF THE BACK DOOR OF IT.

BUT THAT'S WHEN I WALK OVER THERE, I HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE BACK DOOR.

WHERE ARE THE STEPS I COULD GET UP TO THE SHOPS AT, UH, RIVER'S EDGE? IT, IT'S NOT THERE.

IT SEEMS LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE BACK DOOR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME WITH THE SIZE OF IT IS THERE IS ADDITIONAL BUILDING GOING ON FROM SHIELDS UP TO TALLER, MORE DENSITY, MORE TRAFFIC.

THAT ROUNDABOUT CAN'T HANDLE WHAT IT'S GOT ALREADY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STUDY FROM 2027, IF WE GET THAT DONE, MIGHT DO.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT MAKES YOU HANDLE MORE CARS IN 32 YEARS.

IT'S MORE CARS.

MORE CARS, MORE CARS.

NO STOPLIGHT.

IT NEVER STOPS.

WE LIVE ON MARTIN ROAD.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN LEFT.

I HEARD A PROPOSAL WAS, WELL, WE'LL FIX THAT.

WE'LL SAY NO LEFT HAND TURNS.

THAT MAKES MY PROBLEM PERMANENT.

IT DOESN'T FIX ANYTHING.

SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY THAT THIS BRINGS.

WHAT IT DOES THAT ROUNDABOUT, WHAT DOES THE QUALITY OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I GUESS THE ONLY THING I COULD SAY IS IT IS BEAUTIFUL, IT IS EXCITING.

IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL GATE GATEWAY TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

JUST KNOCKED TWO OR THREE STORIES OFF OF IT.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

I WOULD REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THE WHEN THE RED LIGHT COMES ON, THAT'S THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES.

HI, MY NAME'S GREG STEVENSON.

I LIVE ON MARTIN PLACE.

UM, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

IT LOOKS WITH A LUXURY SPA, THE LUXURY HOTEL, THE LUXURY RESTAURANT, THE PARKING GARAGE.

IT LOOKS LIKE A CASINO WITHOUT A, A CASINO COMPLEX WITHOUT A CASINO.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY DUBLIN, DO WE REALLY NEED THAT? THE OTHER THING, JUST SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE, IT'S OCCURRED TO ME, I DON'T WANNA INSULT ANYBODY OR ALL OF YOU, BUT YOU GUYS SHOULD BE INSULTED THAT THESE PEOPLE CAN COME IN HERE WITH A SIXTH FLOOR LIMIT AS THE GREAT WARREN FISHMAN ONCE SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE ALLOW THIS EXEMPTION OR THAT ONE, WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE A CODE? AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE SPENT PROBABLY A FEW MILLION DOLLARS HERE ALREADY WITH THE DESIGN AND THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE LANDSCAPE AND THE ROADS AND, AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAN JUST GO SIX STORIES, THEY'RE GONNA BLAST RIGHT THROUGH YOU GUYS AND THEY FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

HOW COULD THEY, HOW COULD YOU LET IT HAPPEN? THEY'RE INSULTING YOU AND THEY'RE INSULTING ALL OF US.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

OKAY, THE OTHER THING QUICKLY, MARTIN ROAD, I'VE LIVED UP THERE FOR 30 YEARS ON MARTIN PLACE, 1995.

UM, IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S TIME FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA ON THIS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE ALMOST TO TURN LEFT CARS BACK UP 6, 8, 12 DEEP OR MORE, UH, HOLIDAY SEASON EVEN MORE.

AND SOMEBODY'S MAKING A LEFT TURN AND THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE MIGHT BE TRYING TO TURN RIGHT, BUT THAT GUY CAN'T TURN LEFT.

SO WE'RE ALL SITTING THERE IN THE LURCH WAITING AND WAITING AND IT BACKS UP.

IF YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE MUCH IMPROVEMENT.

YOU DON'T REALLY NEED A TURN LANE 'CAUSE THERE'S NOBODY COMING AT YOU.

SO IF YOU'RE TURNING LEFT, YOU TURN LEFT AND

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EVERYBODY ELSE TURNS RIGHT.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD WORK.

AND IT ALSO SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU WANNA SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC THERE.

IF I PULL OUTTA MARTIN ROAD TO GO NORTH TOWARD THE ROUNDABOUT, I I GOTTA ACCELERATE SOMETIMES UP TO 40 MILE AN HOUR BEFORE I CAN EVEN BEGIN TO SLOW DOWN.

IT SAYS 25 THERE NOW, MAYBE YOU COULD RAISE IT TO 30, BUT MAYBE IF YOU HAD A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, MAYBE WITH THE LIGHTS FLASHING YELLOW FROM WHATEVER HOURS FROM 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT TILL SEVEN IN THE MORNING AND THEY JUST FLASHED, MAYBE ALL OF THAT WOULD SLOW DOWN.

TRAFFIC GOING INTO BRIDGE PARK SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.

OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MY NAME'S SCOTT HERRING.

I LIVE AT 32 80 LILY MAR COURT JUST SOUTH AND EAST OF THIS PROPERTY.

UM, SOME OF MY, UH, PREDECESSORS HERE HAVE STOLEN A LITTLE OF MY THUNDER, BUT IN A SIMILAR WAY, BOY, I JUST FEEL BAMBOOZLED OUTTA THIS WHOLE THING.

I'VE ATTENDED DOZENS OF MEETINGS ON BRIDGE PARK IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.

AND YES, A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE WAS THE URBAN WALKABLE CORE WOULD BE NORTH OF 1 61 AND IT WOULD TRANSITION DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO TONIGHT I HEARD A TERM THE NATURALIZED FEEL.

WELL, 114 STORY BUILDING DOESN'T SOUND VERY NATURALIZED.

I GUESS WHAT REALLY HAS ME STEAMED LIKE MR. KROMER, I WAS IN THIS CHAMBER FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

THERE WAS TWO HEARINGS MARCH 7TH, MARCH 21ST, 2022.

UM, I BELIEVE AS A CORRECTION, IT HAD BEEN BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT COMMERCIAL, ALLOWING UP TO FIVE STORIES.

THEN THE REZONING AND THE PLEDGE WAS UP TO SIX, NOT GUARANTEED, BUT UP TO SIX.

SO LAST WEEK I ASKED, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CITY AND I WAS GIVEN A WEBSITE ADDRESS.

AND I LOOKED AT THIS WEEKEND, THE DUBLIN BSD FULL CODE 127 PAGES.

AND IN THERE ARE THESE VARIOUS CATEGORIES.

THE CORRIDOR BUILDING WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT SAID THAT.

MAXIMUM SIX STORIES.

NOW THE VERY FIRST SLIDE TONIGHT MADE REFERENCE TO MIXED USE AND THERE IS A MIXED USE BUILDING, FIVE STORIES MAX.

AND DEPENDING ON THE HEIGHT OF THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE VARIOUS OTHER FLOORS THAT COULD GIVE A BUILDING BETWEEN 56 AND 80, I ADMIRE THE ARCHITECTURE AND I'VE SAID THAT TO THE, UH, ARCHITECTURE BEFORE AND I GET IT, IT'S A CURIOUS SLOT, BUT SIX STORIES, SIX STORIES MAX.

THERE'S NOTHING AMBIGUOUS ABOUT THIS.

AND UM, AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, YOU FOLKS AREN'T THE REFEREES CITY COUNCIL.

PUT SOME PROTECTIONS IN FOR US AND I NEED YOU TO SAY NO.

IN MY OPINION AND MY UNDERSTANDING, THE MORE I READ ABOUT THE CODES, A WAIVER IS SM SOMETHING SMALL AND FOR THE HARDSHIP.

AND ON THAT SLIDE, I BELIEVE IT WAS LETTER B ON THAT IT SAYS IT STILL MUST MEET THE SPIRIT OF THE CODE.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROUND OFF ERROR AND LITTLE THINGS.

AND LIKE MR. KROMER SAID, SO IF THIS REALLY IS NOW MIXED USE BUILDING WHERE THE CODE FOR BRIDGE STREET SRN SAYS SIX MAX COMING IN HERE TONIGHT AND SAYING WE'D LIKE A WAIVER TO GO TO EIGHT OR NINE ADDITIONAL STORY.

HOLY SMOKES.

THE FIRST HEARING TONIGHT WAS ABOUT KIDS ON A SOCCER FIELD, .

AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED STORY BUILDING 24 7 FOR THE NEXT 75 YEARS, PLEASE.

AND DO WE NEED TO TABLE THIS TONIGHT IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE FOR A PROPER VOTE? THANK YOU.

I'M NOT HERE AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HERE TO HELP MAKE A PROFIT OR BIGGER PROFIT.

MY NAME'S CLIFF FERRELL, 31 99 MARTIN ROAD.

I LOOKED AROUND THE ROOM TONIGHT AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE LIVED ON MARTIN ROAD FOR A LONG TIME, HAVE PARTICIPATED IN VARIOUS MEETINGS, NOT JUST FOR THIS ZONING, BUT FOR PLANNING.

UM, I SPENT 10 YEARS WORKING ON ZONING ISSUES WHEN I LIVED IN COLUMBUS.

UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WORDS THAT I HAVE LEARNED TO HATE ARE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, AND WE NEED THIS TO MAKE IT WORK.

AND THE PHRASE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY, I'VE BEEN TO MOST OF THE MEETINGS.

I MAY HAVE MISSED ONE OR TWO, BUT I'VE BEEN TO MOST OF THEM.

AND TO MAKE IT WORK, UM, WE UNDERSTAND MEANS TO MAKE IT A PROFIT.

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I WATCHED THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND IT WAS AN AMAZING PRESENTATION ON LANDSCAPING, BUT VIRTUALLY NO DISCUSSION OF THE 10 FLOORS, NINE FLOORS, 11 FLOORS, HOWEVER MANY FLOORS IT IS.

I LOOK AT THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES AND I SEE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE ON FOUR ACRES.

IN SOME PLACES THAT'S, THAT'S ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE TO PREVENT ANYTHING ELSE.

AND YET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOTEL AND 130 ROOM HOTEL.

AND, AND THEN THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL, WE RELY ON YOU AND WE PARTICIPATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL COME UP TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S HOW WE AND ULTIMATELY GOT UP TO SIX AND SIX STORIES.

I'M GONNA ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, AND THAT IS DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE LANDSCAPING AND THE, THE, THE, THE LOOKING NICE.

AND IT DOES LOOK NICE.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVERY MEETING THAT I WAS AT, WE ALWAYS ASKED, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THE HEIGHT? AND INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN, IT WENT UP TO THE POINT WHERE NOW IT'S HIGHER THAN THE AC SO WE NEED TO RELY ON YOU TO SAY, NO, THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH.

UH, THINK A MINUTE FOR THE, OF THE TRAFFIC OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE.

FORGET THE HOTEL.

JUST THE TRAFFIC ON THAT ALONE IS HUGE.

AND WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH 33 RIVERSIDE DRIVE? YOU CAN'T, THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO WITH IT.

WE HAVE TO LIVE THERE AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

AND SO I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU SAY NO THANK YOU JOE CARANO 3 3 9 0 MARTIN ROAD.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND I APPRECIATE CRAWFORD HOEING INVITING US TO ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT THEY'VE HAD.

BUT I'VE GOTTA BE HONEST, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST NOTHING BUT LIP SERVICE.

IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE MAKE AND THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, THINGS JUST KEEP PUSHING ON.

UH, YOU OPEN UP THE INTERNET TODAY AND CHANNEL FOUR IS ALREADY ANNOUNCING THAT THIS IS GOING THROUGH AND IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY DISHEARTENING, UH, TO LIVE THERE AND EXPERIENCE ALL THIS STUFF.

I MEAN, WE'RE THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND HAVE TO CONTEND WITH THE TRAFFIC.

AND ON NUMEROUS OF THE SLIDES THAT WERE PUT UP THERE, UH, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT AND IS HIGHLY WALKABLE, WALKABLE NETWORKS, UH, THOSE KEPT COMING UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

I MEAN, IT'S BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH, THE HEIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT'S LUDICROUS THAT IT'S EVEN BEING CONSIDERED.

BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS THE, JUST THE CONCERN WITH THE WALKABILITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY STAGES WE TRIED TO WALK UP TO THE FARMER'S MARKET AND, AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT EVENTS UP THERE AND IT'S, IT'S SUICIDE TO GO ACROSS THAT ROUNDABOUT.

IT'S JUST, IT'S HORRIBLE.

AND, UH, I WANT TO QUOTE MR. HUNTER HERE.

UM, ONE THING THAT HE SAID ON THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2022 MEETING, UH, THE THING THAT I REALLY WAS HAPPY TO HEAR IS THAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS THAT SOME CONNECTION NORTH ACROSS 1 61 IS AS IMPORTANT AS WE THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE THING I HONESTLY WASN'T QUITE SURE OF.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE THAT THOUGHT IT WAS WITHOUT SOME WAY OF ADVANCING A BETTER WAY TO GET ACROSS 1 61 THAT THIS JUST DIDN'T WORK.

WELL, I LOOKED AT THOSE PLANS TONIGHT AND I DIDN'T SEE A BETTER WAY ACROSS 1 61.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OVERDEVELOPMENT STRAINS BOTH THE SITE AND LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEGATIVELY AFFECTS RESIDENTS' QUALITY OF LIFE.

OTHER FOLKS WHO WANT TO COMMENT, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION AND CHAIRMAN WAY, CONGRATULATIONS.

UM, MY NAME IS DIANE CARANO AND I LIVE AT 33 90 MARTIN ROAD.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR CONCERNS.

I'M JUST GONNA READ THIS BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES, SO I'M GONNA DO MY BEST.

UM, AS THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, WE OPPOSE THIS PROJECT DUE TO ITS HIGH DENSITY, LARGE SCALE, DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE COMPARED TO THE MASS OF THE BUILDINGS, INCREASED TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY RISKS.

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CONSISTENT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS CRUCIAL.

AS YOU POINTED OUT, MR. WE, UM, AND WAIVING STANDARDS UNDERMINES THEIR INTENT AND LEADS TO EXCESSIVE DEVELOPMENT.

PAST PUBLIC COMMENTS, INCLUDING THOSE FROM MS CALL, MR. FISHMAN, MR. ALEXANDER, MS. ROUSH, MR. CHINOOK AND MS. LUDO HAVE ALL STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF ADHERING TO CODE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MAINTAINING TRANSPARENCY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM THE COMP FROM THE GROUP WHO, UM, PROPOSED IT WAS, UM, FEBRUARY OF 2023 AND, UM, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE SIX STORY CODE AND TO THEIR, UM, CREDIT, THEY ARE COMING BACK WITH SIX STORIES.

I STILL THINK THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT'S TOO MASSIVE.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, AT THAT MEETING, MS CALL DESCRIBED HERSELF AS A NUMBERS PERSON AND NOTED THAT THESE BUILDINGS EXCEEDED THE PER THE PERMITTED HEIGHT BY 15 TO 30%, EXPRESSING HER DISCOMFORT WITH THOSE FIGURES.

THIS PROMPTS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER SHE HAS APPLIED OR WILL APPLY OR SOMEBODY ELSE WILL APPLY, UH, THAT SAME ANALYSIS TO THIS PROJECT.

UM, AND AGAIN, MR. FISHMAN AR ARGUED THAT IF WAIVERS ARE ROUTINELY GRANTED, THE CODE BECOMES MEANINGLESS AND RESIDENTS LOSE A SENSE OF RELIABILITY.

IT'S JUST, AND HE SUMMED IT UP WITH, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT FOR TOO SMALL A SITE.

AND I THINK THAT'S SENTIMENT CERTAINLY FITS THIS SITUATION.

UH, MR. ALEXANDER ON OCTOBER 23RD, UM, YOU HAD REMARKED THAT YOU COULDN'T SUPPORT THE LIVEWELL ANIMAL HOSPITAL BECAUSE IT DEVIATED TOO FAR FROM CODE AND A HOPE THAT YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UH, MR. RAUSCH ALSO EMPHASIZED AT THAT MEETING THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING PROPOSALS AS CLOSE TO CODE AS POSSIBLE.

AND MEANWHILE, MR. SCHOCK, UM, RAISED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY CONCERNS REGARDING THE LOU COURT DEVELOPMENT.

AND I TRUST YOU SHARE THESE CONCERNS WITH THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL.

WHILE WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE OUTREACH FROM CRAWFORD HOING, OUR CONCERNS HAVE NOT BEEN SUBSTANTIVELY ADDRESSED AND NO MEANINGFUL MODIFICATIONS OR CONCESSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.

FURTHERMORE, THE CITY'S LACK OF RESPONSE IN NOT REQUESTING ANY MODIFICATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT'S PLANS, UM, INDICATE A SERIOUS OVERSIGHT OR OF REQUIREMENTS FOR CODE COMPLIANCE.

THE ISSUE CONCERNS BOTH COMPLIANCE AND FAIRNESS.

I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT THE COMMISSION MAINTAIN FAIRNESS AND FAIRNESS REQUIRES ALL DEVELOPERS TO ADHERE TO EXISTING CODES, AND THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRUST THAT THE CODES WILL BE UPHELD.

WHILE COMPROMISE IS IMPORTANT, WE FEEL WE'VE MADE ALL THE CONCESSIONS, WHICH IS UNFAIR.

WE BELIEVE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT CAN DEVELOP A COMPLIANT PLAN THAT SAFEGUARDS AND HONORS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY SUPPORTING A SU A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE FOR THE APPLICANT.

DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS OFTEN REFER TO OPPORTUNITIES, AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THIS MOMENT REPRESENTS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO PUT ITS RESIDENCE FIRST, AS STATED BY MEGAN O' CALLAHAN IN HER INTRODUCTORY LETTER WHEN SHE WOULD BECAME CITY MANAGER.

YOU ARE OUR ONLY FIREWALL AND IT'S OUR SINCERE HOPE THAT YOU WILL FULFILL YOUR OBLIGATION TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND UPHOLD THE ESTABLISHED BUILDING CODES.

AS MR. DESER SAID, HE PUT HIMSELF IN THE PLACES OF THE, UM, RESIDENTS BEHIND THE SOCCER FIELDS.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL DO THAT IF YOU LIVED, YOU KNOW, PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES.

UM, AND ACCORDINGLY, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS PROPOSAL BE BE DECLINED AND THAT THE APPLICANT BE ASKED TO REVISE THE PLAN TO COMPLY WITH THE SIX STORY CODE, ENSURING THE PROJECT MEETS COMMUNITY STANDARDS AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

DEVELOPMENT ALONG 1 61 3 IN THE MORNING.

OTHER SPEAKERS, PLEASE COME UP.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LISTENING TO US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

UM, IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED AT BRIDGE PARK IS AMAZING.

UM, I AM, OH, KATIE MCQUAID, 32 60 LILY MARQUARDT.

I APOLOGIZE.

REALLY NERVOUS.

UM, IT DOES FEEL LIKE THIS PROGRESS IS GOING TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF IF WE DISAGREE WITH IT OR NOT.

AND SO MY QUESTIONS JUST LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT.

UM, YOU SAID WHERE THE SERVICE ENTRANCE WAS GONNA HAPPEN, YOU WANTED TO WI WIDEN THE ENTRANCEWAY AND THE DRIVE TO THAT.

WHAT SIZE TRUCKS ARE YOU ANTICIPATING TO BE COMING THROUGH THERE? WHAT IS GONNA BE HAPPENING THAT IS THE SOUTH SIDE, NEXT TO OUR CUTE, WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S NOISE.

UM, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 27 YEARS.

WE'VE HAD MORE

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I'VE GOT DUMPSTERS GETTING DUMPED AND I, MY WINDOWS ARE OPEN.

I'M AWAKENED AT THREE IN THE MORNING.

SO, UM, ALSO WHAT TIME WOULD THEIR DELIVERIES? WOULD WE, COULD WE HAVE A TIME RESTRICTION ON DELIVERIES, A TIME RESTRICTION ON TRASH PICKUP, UM, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THE OUTDOOR TERRACE, THE EVENT SPACE ALSO IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS CLOSEST TO OUR QUIET, SWEET LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, IF THERE'S AN OUTDOOR TERRACE THAT IS ABOVE, THAT'S WITH THE EVENT SPACE, IS THERE GONNA BE A TIME RESTRICTION ON WHEN THAT NEEDS TO CLOSE? SO THAT IS NOT GOING ON ALL NIGHT, IS IT ON EVERY NIGHT POSSIBLE? UM, WE DO HEAR THE MUSIC FROM BRIDGE PARK WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR EVENTS THERE.

WE HEAR IT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M, YOU KNOW, I, I TAKE THAT AS WHAT IT IS, BUT NOW THIS IS THAT MUCH CLOSER TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND HOW NOISY WILL THAT BE? I DID, UM, ALSO A SECOND.

I HAD WRITTEN DOWN THE ACCESS FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

I MEAN, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW TO GET THERE.

YES, WE HAVE THE STAIRS THAT GO UP THERE THAT ARE RICKETY RIGHT NOW, BUT COMING IN THROUGH RIVERSIDE DRIVE THAT IS COMING FROM THE SOUTH SIDE.

OUR WAY TO GET TO BRIDGE PARK IS COMING THROUGH THAT BIKE PATH.

AND FIRST THING I GET TO SEE IS A SERVICE ENTRANCE.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO REROUTE THAT AND NOT HAVE THAT? THE FIRST THING WE SEE AND AS AGAIN, THE NOISE IS THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION.

I AGREE WITH ALL THAT STUFF, BUT ALSO THE NOISE IS, IS WHAT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.

THE MIC IS OPEN AND ON.

ANYBODY ELSE GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS.

AT THIS POINT OUR PUBLIC INPUT IS CLOSED AND WE ARE NOW GONNA SHIFT TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO STICK WITH DAN .

THIS IS A TOUGH ONE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, SO A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO KIND OF DISCUSS, I GUESS WITH THE COMMISSION AND SEE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S, UM, MAYBE A DIFFERENCE IN UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAIVER PROCESS AS WE UNDERSTAND IT IN BRIDGE PARK WAIVERS ARE, I GUESS INTENDED TO SOME DEGREE.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME WE SAW KIND OF VAGUE DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT WAIVERS WOULD BE APPLIED AT THIS INTERSECTION.

ONE OF 'EM DID MENTION EIGHT STORIES GOING UP TO EIGHT STORIES.

SO OBVIOUSLY I, I DO THINK THAT THERE WAS AN INTENTION TO ALLOW WAIVER TO EXCEED THAT HEIGHT.

UM, BUT WHAT IS THE LIMIT TO THAT? AND I WONDER WHERE YOU GUYS ARE AT ON THAT.

YEAH, I I I FEEL LIKE A PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET WITH THE AC HOTEL.

AND SO I THINK, AND LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, THE SUGGESTION WAS, WELL, WE'LL BE CLO REAL CLOSE TO THE HEIGHT, THE AC HOTEL.

I REALIZE OTHER FACTORS COME UP AS IT DEVELOPED THE PROJECT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE A, WE SHOULD HAVE A LIMIT, BUT WE'VE ALREADY GRANTED SOMEBODY A WAIVER FOR THAT.

SO THERE'S A PRECEDENT, BUT DO WE WANT TO GO BEYOND WITH A NEW WAIVER TO GET TALLER THAN THAT? I'LL TURN TO THIS SIDE QUESTION.

I THINK, I THINK WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO CHIME IN.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S, UM, GETTING TOO HIGH AND, UM, AND THEN, UM, THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET.

I, I DO SEE THAT, BUT ALSO THERE'S BEEN RULES THAT HAVE BEEN SET AS WELL TOO.

AND SO WHERE, WHERE ARE WE BINDING ON THAT AS WELL TOO? UM, AND I'LL ADD THAT TOO.

THE APPLICANT MENTIONED THE CRESCENDO IDEA OF BUILDING UP TO BRIDGE PARK AND I, I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING THAT WITH THE HEIGHTS.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT, WE HAVE THIS, WE'RE NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE, UM, I GUESS WE'LL CALL IT THE MECHANICAL PENTHOUSE, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, THE ROOFTOP SCREENING, THAT'S AN ADDITION TO THAT AS WELL.

SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING EVEN HIGHER WITH IT.

AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE, THE HEIGHT COMPARISON AC LIKE, IT'S JUST, TO ME, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING THE, THE, THE GOAL OF CONNECTIVITY.

UM, IT JUST, IT IT FEELS OVERSIZED.

AM I OPINION THAT HEIGHT, THE HEIGHT WE INDICATED AT 114 FEET INCLUDES TO THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE MECHANICAL SCREEN.

THE ROOF PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS CLOSER TO 102 FEET AND THE AC ITS HIGHEST POINT IS 101 FEET.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S EDUCATION.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, MY, MY FEELING IS THAT I THINK IN, IN THE CODE, ESPECIALLY THE COMMUNITY PLAN, THAT THIS CORNER HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A GATEWAY CORNER AND WE KNOW THAT SIX STORIES

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IS KIND OF THE, THE BASELINE FOR BRIDGE PARK, BUT I THINK THERE WAS ROOM IN THE CODE THAT WE MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENTLY AT THIS CORNER AGAIN AS A SPECIAL CORNER.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IN ITSELF IS REALLY BRINGING A LOT OF LIKE HIGH QUALITY, UM, YOU KNOW, DESIGNED TO A VERY IMPORTANT CORNER IN THE CITY.

AND SO I THINK THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN, WE DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO GO ABOVE THE SIX STORIES.

AND THE, AND I GUESS MAYBE THE QUESTION IS WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT, THAT DIMENSION AND I, I I, AND AGAIN, I, IF WE CAN MEASURE IT IN FEET OR WE CAN MEASURE IT IN STORIES THAT IT STORIES CAN BE VERY NEBULOUS.

SO TO ME, KNOWING THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE AC HOTEL AND THEN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS ON THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE TO ME AS, AS JUST WAS STATED, UM, GIVES US A BETTER KIND OF BASELINE TO CON TO CONSIDER.

I'LL MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT ON THAT, UH, HEIGHT JUST BECAUSE I THINK INITIALLY WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT HOW AC STEPS UP, WE'RE THINKING YOU STEP UP.

I THINK WE'VE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE EFFECT THAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD STEP BACK DOWN.

AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT I THINK THAT THIS DESIGN DOES A BETTER JOB OF STEPPING BACK DOWN AS A RESULT OF THE, UM, THE CURVED AND THEN BROWN MIC, PORCH PATIO, WHATEVER YOU'D CALL IT.

AND, AND I, AND I JUST THROW OUT ONE OTHER CONSIDERATION IS THAT WE HAVE A SITE THAT HAS TWO BASELINE.

WE HAVE A, A RIVERSIDE DRIVE ELEVATION, AND THEN WE HAVE THE RIVER'S EDGE ELEVATION, WHICH IS TWO STORIES OF PLAY THERE.

SO IF YOU DID SIX STORIES BASED ON THE RIVER'S EDGE, UM, UH, ELEVATION, IT WOULD MAKE THE BUILDINGS OFF RIVERSIDE DRIVE EIGHT STORIES.

SO IT, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DILEMMAS IN PLANNING, LIKE HOW, WHERE DO YOU MEASURE THAT? AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO MEASURE IT IN FEET AND NOT STORIES BECAUSE STORIES ARE ALL DIFFERENT.

HEIGHTS.

, I, I DON'T DISPUTE, WELL, I CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S IN, IT'S IN ONE OF OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS, BUT, BUT I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING DOCUMENT THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CORNER AND IT, AND IT DESERVES A BUILDING OF SOME MASS.

AND I DO THINK THIS ALONG WITH AC SHOULD FRAME THE ENTRY AND EXIT AS YOU'RE MOVING ALONG.

1 61, UH, THE, THE ARCHITECT HAS DONE, HAS SOME STRATEGIES THAT ARE MAKING THE BUIL, THEY'RE BREAKING THE BUILDING DOWN, CLEAVING IT, AND THEN PARTICULARLY THE, THE WAY THE ELEVATION ON THE, UM, CONDOS IS DEALT WITH WHERE YOU HAVE ONE SURFACE THAT'S PULLED BACK, PULLED OUT FROM ANOTHER SURFACE THAT'S BEYOND.

AND THOSE ARE ALL STRATEGIES THAT HELP REDUCE THE APPARENT MASS TO THE BUILDING, WHICH I THINK, WHICH I THINK ARE SUCCESSFUL AND A PROJECT BENEFITS FROM THAT.

BUT I, I I, I, I DO AGREE THAT THIS REQUIRES A PROMINENT BUILDING.

AND AGAIN, I, I THINK THE OTHER THING WE HEARD WAS THE TRANSITION STEPPING DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I THINK THE WAY THE, THE WAY THEY TURNED THE HOTEL, THEY PUT A BEND IN THE HOTEL OR A A 90 DEGREE ANGLE AND THEN THE BASE, THE PLINTH STEPS DOWN.

I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY QUITE EFFECTIVE.

AND I THINK IT DOES START TO TRANSITION ITSELF.

IT MAY BE MORE ABRUPT THAN PEOPLE WANT, BUT I STILL THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY TO HANDLE THAT TRANSITION.

SO WE'VE, WE, WE'VE KIND OF GONE OUT FOR OUR NORMAL DELIBERATION.

WE USUALLY GO PERSON BY PERSON.

AND SO DAN, CAN WE, I THINK WE'VE, DO WE GET TO THE POINT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HEIGHT WITH YEAH, I THINK SO.

AND I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT THAT GATEWAY STATUS IS WHAT WOULD, UM, PROMOTE THE EXCEPTION FOR THE HEIGHT FOR THE WAIVER.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE AT THIS POINT? UM, I THINK THE CONNECTION ACROSS 1 61 IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THAT ZACH KIND OF ALLUDED TO FUTURE WORK BEING DONE THERE.

UM, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO EVALUATE THAT CONNECTIVITY, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME STILL.

OF THE OVERALL REZONING AND THE OVERALL TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

GARY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ZACH.

IS A, IS A TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRED AS A PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN? OKAY, THAT'S SHOULD ASKED.

MS. WASKOWITZ, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED .

IT IS NOT BECAUSE WHEN THIS DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS ASSESSED WITH THIS.

SO WE'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR UM, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S EXPECTED BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THE TYPES OF DENSITIES THAT WERE ENVISIONED.

I HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

SO, TYPES OF DENSITIES THAT WERE ENVISIONED.

SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THIS.

SO TWO PARTS TO THAT.

SO GENERALLY YES.

THE, THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT IS NOT REQUIRED TO DO INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES BECAUSE

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UM, AT THE TIME OF THAT REZONING.

IF THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING MORE DENSITY THAN IS ALLOWED BY ZONING, THEN THEY NEED TO SUPPORT THAT.

UM, AND THEY'VE PROVIDED A, A TRAFFIC MEMO AND CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE IF THAT, UH, IS DESIRED.

SO YOU DON'T DO ANY KIND OF, UM, NOW THAT'S A STUDY OF KIND OF THE MACRO, BUT YOU DON'T DO ANY KIND OF STUDY OF THE SITE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC WILL FUNCTION A LOT DIFFERENT IF SOME OF THOSE ROADS ARE EVER BUILT OR EXTENDED THAN IT WILL TODAY.

SO THE, SO THAT MACRO STUDY DOES CONTEMPLATE THE FULL BUILD OUT OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK.

UM, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE PHASING, UM, TO GET US THERE AS DEVELOPMENTS COME ONLINE.

HOW ABOUT THE MICRO STUDY? IT, WHEN YOU, IF THIS IS BUILT WITHOUT THOSE ROAD EXTENSIONS, IS THE SITE GOING TO BE ADEQUATE AND THE CIRCULATION ON THAT SITE, NOT BEYOND THE SITE, ON THAT SITE GONNA BE ADEQUATE? I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT.

I GUESS MAYBE WHILE BRIAN'S COMING UP THERE, SO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, LIKE THE SCOPE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE PROVIDING THE REQUIRED CONNECTION SO WHEN THE SUBSEQUENT PHASES COME FORWARD, WHICH I THINK ZACH MENTIONED AND THE APPLICANT TEAM DID AS WELL, RIGHT.

WE DEFINITELY WANNA UNDERSTAND PARTICULARLY IF THE REST OF THE CENTER, WHEN THE REST OF THE CENTER REDEVELOPS, THOSE ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS NEED TO BE MADE SO THAT THAT GRIDDED STREET NETWORK, THAT THAT'S A CODE REQUIREMENT.

SO WE DEFINITELY TWO ACCOUNT FOR EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YOU'RE CONTINUING TO ADD DEVELOPMENT TO, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDING THOSE CONNECTIONS AS WELL.

I'LL LET BRIAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.

SO, UH, GOOD EVENING, BRIAN QUACKENBUSH, MH AND T 5,500 NEW ALBANY ROAD, COLUMBUS.

SO I, YES, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THE MICRO STUDY, I'LL ANSWER THAT, UH, QUESTION.

WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, UH, WITHIN THE SITE A LITTLE BIT MORE, IN MORE DETAIL AS A PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SPECIFICALLY THE DROP OFF AREA.

THE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE SERVICE ALREADY AS FAR AS, UH, TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW TRUCKS, DELIVERY TRUCKS WILL GET INTO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOADING DOCK AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THEN I THINK WE'LL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THAT DALE DRIVE INTERSECTION A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY, THE DALE DRIVE INTERSECTION WITH, UH, DUBLIN GRANDVILLE AS WELL AS THE DALE DRIVE INTERSECTION WITH OUR DRIVEWAY.

SO YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE STUDYING FURTHER.

I, I'LL, UM, TO BE MORE DEFINITIVE, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ESTABLISH THE HEIGHT OF AC HOTEL AS THE HEIGHT THAT WE DON'T GO BEYOND.

I, I THINK THE PRECEDENT'S BEEN SET.

LET'S HOLD IT AT THAT.

SO TO CLARIFY, I MEAN THIS IS GOING OVER THE AC HEIGHT.

WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED HERE OR YOU'RE SAYING THIS WOULD BE YOUR NEW IT, IT, IT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN I WOULD VOTE NO ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT IF, IF NO ONE ELSE AGREED WITH ME.

JUST ONE, ONE MORE THING ON THE, I GUESS PRE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT I JUST WANNA PUT ON RECORD IS, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO ESTIMATE THAT DENSITY IF WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN UPPER LIMIT FOR THE HEIGHT OF A BUILDING FOR ESTIMATING IT AND SAYING ALL FOUR TO SIX STORIES.

AND THIS IS DOUBLE THAT POTENTIALLY THAN IT'S MORE DENSE THAN YOUR INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD'VE ACCOUNTED FOR.

IS THAT CORRECT? ZACH WANTS ME TO STAY PUT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ALLOWED AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSED IS WHAT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS HAS PROVIDED AND IS IS INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

THE MEMO, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT AS WELL STORY, I WOULD SAY STORIES ARE NOT, AT LEAST HOW WE REVIEW IT, NOT INDICATIVE OF DENSITY.

THEY COULD HYPOTHETICALLY DO A SMALLER BUILDING AND HAVE MORE UNITS.

SO I DENSITY IS IT, IT'S TOUGH TO PIN DOWN WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO THESE THINGS.

SO WE, WE BASE IT OFF OF A GENERALIZATION WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE FUTURE LAND USE PLANS AND, UM, AND THE LIKE.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT OUR FIRST IMPRESSION IS HOW HIGH IT IS AS MUCH AS WHAT THE FACADE AROUND THE SIDE, AND I THINK YOU'RE REALLY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

OKAY, SERGEANT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR, FOR TAKING ALL YOUR TIME AND ALL OF THESE YEARS, EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER FOR THIS.

UM, UM, AND AGAIN, IT IS THE FIRST IMPRESSION

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BUT THE HEIGHT I DEFINITELY HAVE TROUBLE WITH.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THE SAFETY YET, UM, FOR THE PEDESTRIANS BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE A WALKABILITY.

WE CAN'T EVEN GET ANYBODY FROM MARTIN ROAD OVER TO THIS AREA WITHOUT GOING AROUND ONE OTHER AREA AND SO FORTH.

AND WE ALSO WANT TO KINDA GET MORE CONNECTIONS WITH, WITH, UM, WALKWAYS.

AND IF, IF YOU CAN END UP DOWN BY A FRIENDSHIP VILLAGE, THAT'S GREAT.

AND IF THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET US THERE, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE, IT'S THE HYPE.

IT'S HIGHER THAN THE AC I THINK IF WE WANNA SEND A PRECEDENCE FOR THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO START.

UM, SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE HYPE.

UH, SO I, I GUESS I'LL, I'LL, I I AGREE.

I THINK THE, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE DESIGN, THE THEORY, THE, THE, THE VISION FOR THE THE THE PROPERTY IS AMAZING.

IT LOOKS GREAT.

UM, I I I AM CONCERNED ABOUT .

WE'RE GONNA HEAR IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

YOU, YOU, YOU, I ASKED A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

'CAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FROM, I MEAN, WE GOT THE PERSPECTIVE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE ROUNDABOUT, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A PRIVATE OWNED, NOT O NOT WELCOMING TO THE PUBLIC KIND OF PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE CONNECTIVITY CONCERNS WE HAVE CROSS 1 61 AND MR. WE BROUGHT UP, AND WE KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT, THE, THE PRINCIPAL FRONTAGE IS THERE'S NO FRONT DOOR TO GET INTO THE, THE BUILDING.

YOU HAVE TO WALK ALL AROUND, ESSENTIALLY ENTER THE BACK DOOR TO THE SPACE.

AND I SAID THIS LAST TIME, AND YOU ALL WERE HERE, THAT, THAT IT ALMOST IS A BARRIER MORE THAN, IN MY OPINION, MORE THAN WELCOMING TO, TO THE SPACE.

I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY CONSIDER HOW WE CAN HAVE BETTER CONNECTIVITY.

SAFETY IS A HUGE CONCERN.

UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TRULY GONNA DRIVE PEOPLE, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHICH AS YOU STATED YOU WANT TO DO, UH, I THINK WE GOTTA FIGURE IT OUT.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN'T SAY WE NEED TO BRIDGE OR SOMETHING, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME.

AND I 100% AGREE THAT WE NEED TO CAP IT AT THE AC HEIGHT.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO EXCEED THAT.

UM, I THINK WE NEED TO SET THAT A AS A LIMITATION I BEHIND THAT AS WELL.

FROM THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT COMING NORTH ON, ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK YOU, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO REALLY HELP WITH THAT, BUT I'M NOW THINKING ABOUT THE BUILDING ON THAT END AND HOW DOES THAT FEEL LIKE IT'S ANCHORING A CORNER OF SOMETHING, RIGHT? IT'S THE CORNER OF BRIDGE PARK, RIGHT? SO HOW, HOW DOES THAT REALLY, UM, WORK? AND I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, SO , I'M SPEAKING BETWEEN TWO ARCHITECTS.

UM, I TOO AM AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT CAPPING IT AT THE AC MEANS AT THIS POINT, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN LE LEAVE THAT WITH STAFF PERHAPS TO REALLY WORK ON THE DETAILS OF IT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A HEIGHT ON IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE BUILDINGS WITH STORIES AND YOU HAVE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A HALF A STORY.

SO, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW IT'S, YOU'VE GOTTA CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S USABLE, UM, AND, AND, AND MEETS THE HEIGHTS REQUIREMENTS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UM, I ECHO MR. CHINOOK'S, UM, COMMENTS, WHICH HE ECHOED MINE ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROJECT RELATES TO THE WEST REST OF BRIDGE PARK AND YOU, YOU, IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT FEEL LIKE IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE THING.

I JUST, I, AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF, BECAUSE OF THE PARKING, THERE'S A LOT OF WALLS AND TALL WALLS AND THEY JUST FEEL OUT OF HUMAN SCALE.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE WORK DONE TO, WITH TERRACING OR WHATEVER OF THOSE WALLS TO KIND OF BRING IT DOWN TO THE STREET AND MAKE IT MORE WELCOMING.

I DUNNO HOW TO, UH, HOW TO SAY IT OTHER THAN THAT.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE, THE INVESTMENT IN, IN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THE CITY WANTS TO MAKE IT MORE CONNECTED.

UM, I, I WAS WONDERING IF I WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR, HOW WOULD I GET INTO THE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET AND GET INTO THE BUILDING? I DIDN'T SEE ANY KIND OF A DA ACCESS AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN ELEVATOR THAT COMES DOWN FROM THE MAIN LOBBY LEVEL AND, AND BASICALLY ALLOWS ANYBODY TO ACCESS FROM THE ROUNDABOUT UP TO THE AMENITY FLOORS OF THE BUILDING.

SO, UM, IT, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCH A CHALLENGING PROJECT, , WHICH YOU ALL KNOW MORE THAN, THAN ANYBODY, AND YOU KNOW THIS, AND I THINK LANDSCAPE CAN DO A LOT TO SOFTEN THESE, THESE BLANK WALLS, BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO SCALE DOWN THE WALLS TOO.

AND MAYBE THE WALLS JUST HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL VIBE TO 'EM, SO THEY FEEL MORE LIKE, UH, I, I THINK I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE HUMAN SCALE NATURE OF IT, AND I, I KEEP LOOKING AT THESE PEOPLE IN THE RENDERINGS, THESE LITTLE TEENY PEOPLE, AND THEN THERE'S THESE HUGE WALLS AND I'M LIKE, THAT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPOSING.

SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

UM, AND ALSO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS NOTION OF THIS PROJECT AS A GATEWAY, NOT ONLY

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UH, ANYWAY, THOSE WOULD BE THE, THE COMMENTS I WOULD HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO DIVE IN JUST RELEVANT TO LIKE STRAW POLE, I WOULD SAY I AM SUPPORTIVE AS IS, BUT JUST WOULD MENTION THAT THE HEIGHT IS VERY, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVE AND UH, AND ALSO THAT 1 61 CROSSING.

SO JUST TO GET IT ON THE RECORD BEFORE WE VOTE, ARE WE READY TO VOTE? MS. HOARD? UH, YES.

I JUST HAVE A, UM, A QUESTION TOO.

UM, IN VOTING, UH, IF WE VOTE YES AND WITH OUR CONCERNS ABOUT HEIGHT, THAT MOVES IT FORWARD TO THE NEXT STAGE AND THEN WE'D STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT.

IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS EVENING? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THAT I, THE WAIVERS SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO HEIGHT MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING YES.

SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE HEIGHT WAIVERS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES.

LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE APPROVING THESE WAIVERS.

DOES THAT STILL GIVE US, IF THE WAIVERS DON'T GIVE US ANY FLEXIBILITY WITH HEIGHT? SO WE'D HAVE TO LIKE MODIFY THESE TO, IF THE WAIVER IS APPROVED, RIGHT, THEN IT, IT WOULD BE APPROVING THE CURRENT REQUEST FOR NINE STORIES AND EIGHT STORIES.

SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROCEED TO A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THOSE STORY HEIGHTS AS SHOWN CURRENTLY.

I KNEW WE'D COME BACK TO THAT ALL LONG LIST OF WAIVERS AND, AND SO HERE WE ARE.

SO I, I'M SENSING THAT THE COMMISSION IS FEELING LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING MODIFIED HERE IN RELATIONSHIP TO HEIGHT.

WHY, WHY CAN'T WE SAY YOU CAN DO THE NUMBER OF STORIES BUT THE OVERALL HEIGHT CAN'T EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT DEFINING IN OUR CODE WHAT A STORY IS.

YEAH, SO I MEAN THOSE ARE SEPARATE REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? THEY HAVE, THERE'S STORIES, NUMBER STORIES AND THEN THERE'S UPPER STORY FLOOR HEIGHT MAX AND MINS.

SO I THINK THERE COULD BE, I I, IT'S HARD TO SAY RIGHT NOW, BUT YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO SEE IF IT FIT IN THE MAX AND MINS.

YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO SHOULD WE GO THROUGH THESE WAIVERS ONE BY ONE AND SEE HOW WE STACK UP? CAN I JUST CLARIFY HERE? I'M LOOKING AT THE HOTEL BUILDING.

WHERE'S THE HEIGHT WAIVER? THAT IS NUMBER FOUR.

OR UNDER HOTEL BUILDING.

FOR THE HOTEL BUILDING.

I SEE STREET FACADES, NUMBER OF ENTRANCES.

ARE WE LOOKING, OH, SORRY, I'M ON THE WRONG .

SO LOOK, IF WE GO THROUGH THESE ON THE SITE, MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZE WAIVER, DRIVEWAYS WAIVER, WE ALL OKAY WITH THOSE? OKAY.

HOTEL BUILDING FRONT PROPERTY LINE COVERAGE.

WITH THAT HEIGHT MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES.

THAT'S THE ONE.

SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

PERMITTED RANGE OF STORY HEIGHTS.

SAME, SAME ISSUE.

PRINCIPAL ENTRANCE LOCATIONS, I ISSUE THAT.

IS IT SPECIFIC TO THE BUILDING? IT'S REALLY MORE THE, LIKE REMEMBER THE BUILDING'S BEING DIVIDED THROUGH THE LOBBY, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD KIND OF APPLY TO BOTH.

PARKING STRUCTURE, E EXIT LANES.

ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT.

ZACH, ARE YOU TAKING NOTES? , UM, CONDOMINIUM BUILDING, FRONT REQUIRED BUILDING ZONE.

ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? YEP.

NOW WE'VE GOT HEIGHT AND PERMITTED RANGE OF STORY OF HEIGHTS AND THEN PRINCIPLE AT ENTRANCE LOCATIONS.

SO I ASSUME ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THOSE MM-HMM .

AND FOR THE RECORD, I'M OKAY WITH THE ENTRANCE LOCATIONS ON BOTH.

JAMIE SAID HE WAS NOT OH, ON THE CONDOMINIUM BUILDING OR

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AND THEN THE OFFICE BUILDING, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HEIGHT ON THE OFFICE BUILDING? I DON'T THINK WE DO.

SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

SO LOOKING FOR THE, SOME ASSISTANCE WITH HOW COULD WE REWORD THIS? OR IS IT, UM, INSTEAD OF THE WAIVER, IS IT, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET TO THE HEIGHT? UH, YOU KNOW, MR. BOGGS, MAYBE YOU COULD HELP WITH THIS.

YEAH, SO MS. RAUS AND I WERE JUST, UH, TALKING ABOUT THIS.

ONE THING THAT THE COMMISSION COULD DO IS FOR THOSE WAIVERS WHERE THERE ARE REMAINING, UH, QUESTIONS, UM, IS REMOVE THOSE MOVE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF WAIVERS.

AND THEN THE ACTUAL QUESTION OF WHETHER TO APPROVE THOSE, I'LL CALL THEM THE HEIGHT WAIVERS.

'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE LARGELY THE, THE CONCERN, RIGHT? HEIGHTEN THE, UH, UH, PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE.

UM, THOSE WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE APPROVED.

THE APPLICANT COULD STILL COME FORWARD WITH THEIR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SO THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

I'M SURE THAT THEY WILL TAKE WHAT THEY'VE HEARD TONIGHT TO HEART IN PREPARING THAT, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

OR THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE OR MITIGATE SOME OF THE WAIVER REQUESTS.

SO WE, SO WE WOULD BE APPROVING EIGHT WAIVERS AND THE REST WOULD BE, YES, IT WOULD BE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, MR. HOUNSELL HAS HIGHLIGHTED IN OR CHANGED THE TEXT TO RED FOR THOSE THAT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE.

IF, IF YOU FOLLOW THAT SORT OF LINE OF THINKING I JUST LAID OUT.

OKAY, SO CAN GO AHEAD AND STRIKE 'EM THEN, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? SO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THOSE THEN BEFORE WE VOTE, OR THAT'S, YEAH.

CAN CAN WE JUST SAY THE ITEM? YEAH.

OH, I'M SORRY.

MR. HUNTER.

YES, YOU MAY APPROACH HELP US OUT HERE .

SORRY.

UM, I GUESS ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO OFFER, IF FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, I THINK BOTH FOR YOU AND FOR US, IF THERE IS A WAY IN WHICH, GOING BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT HAS THAT DATA LINE AT THE AC, RIGHT? YEP.

THE TOP OF THE HIGHEST OCCUPIED LEVEL.

IF, IF WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT IF WE DON'T GO ABOVE THAT AC LINE, SO THAT RED LINE NOW REMEMBERING WHAT HE SAID, SOME OF, MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE ABOVE THAT RED LINE IS ACTUALLY, UM, PENTHOUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST ATTIC.

IT'S NOT ACTUALLY OCCUPIED SPACE.

IT'S COVERING OF THE ROOF, UH, ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT.

SO DO WE WANT, LIKE IF WE SAY HIGHEST OCCUPIED LEVEL DREAD ATOM LINE, WOULD THAT GET US TO A POINT WHERE EVERYONE FEELS COMFORTABLE ROOF TO THE ROOF? WERE ABOUT A FOOT OFF.

AC IS THE HEIGHT, WHICH ACTUALLY THE AC IS, OH, CAN CAN YOU APPROACH THE, THE PODIUM? MR. MYERS? , SORRY TO YELL .

UM, THE, THE RED LINE IS TO THE HIGH POINT OF THE ROOF OF THE AC, IT'S ABOUT 101 FEET.

WE, WE CAN EVEN GO GET THE EXACT MEASUREMENT.

WE HAVE 114 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE MECHANICAL SCREEN.

YOU SEE THE, THE SORT OF ANGLED PORTION THAT'S ABOVE THE RED LINE THAT, THAT MECHANICAL SCREEN AT ITS BOTTOM POINT, OR I WOULD SAY OUR HIGH POINT OF OUR TOP OF OUR FLAT ROOF IS ABOUT 102 FEET.

WE'RE ABOUT 12 INCHES DIFFERENCE FROM THE AC.

IF THE, IF THE TERM OF THE COMEBACK WITH THE FINAL, WITH A CONDITION AND THAT CONDITION IS HAVE THAT ROOF LINE BE AT OR BELOW THE AC TO BE THE GATEWAY ONTO EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND MATCH THE HEIGHT IN A LIKE, FOR LIKE POSITION, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.

DO YOU KNOW HOW HIGH THEIR MECHANICAL SCREENING IS? I, I DON'T.

I WISH I DID BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A THING BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS SOLVED.

THAT'S THING BECAUSE IF, IF WE JUST SAID HERE'S THE DATA POINT, WELL I'LL, WE DON'T ABOUT WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA FIND A WAY TO MINIMIZE OUR MECHANICAL

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SCREEN AND PENTHOUSE.

WE'VE, WE'VE PURPOSELY OVERSIZED IT TO GIVE US SOME ROOM.

'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED EVERY PIECE OF AIR CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT.

SO I'M, I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN GET MORE COMPATIBLE TO THE AC I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT THE WAY WE WERE AND WHY IT'S SO CHALLENGING TO LOOK AT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE AT DIFFERENT GRADES, DIFFERENT HEIGHTS ABOVE ELEVATION.

IT'S THAT, IT'S THAT DATA LINE, RIGHT? IT'S WHEN YOU'RE COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE, EITHER DIRECTION ON 1 61, DO THESE THINGS LINE UP.

I THINK THAT THAT IS, THAT THAT IS WHAT WE'VE REALLY BEEN AIMING FOR.

AND MY COMMENTS ARE JUST ABOUT FAIRNESS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE GREAT, IT'S JUST ABOUT FAIRNESS, SIR.

OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD HAS ENDED.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UH, RIGHT NOW THEY GOT COME BACK UP, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANTS IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES GET THE OPPORTUNITY AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS BRINGING THE, THE PROJECT FORWARD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR RESPOND AS CONDITIONS ARE DISCUSSED.

NOT JUST WITH, NOT JUST WITH THIS APPLICATION, BUT WITH ANY APPLICATION THAT THE COMMISSION HEARS, LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY.

THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT HAS ARE INCLUDED.

OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD HAS ENDED.

WE CLOSED IT.

SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'RE GONNA, THEY GOT A BITE AT THE APPLE ON THE AC NOW THEY WANT ANOTHER BITE THAT'S BIGGER.

THEY'RE NOT STEPPING DOWN, TAKING A BIGGER BITE UP .

OKAY, SO WE'RE BACK TO, UM, RE REDUCING SOME WAIVERS AND I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT ADDING A CONDITION ABOUT HEIGHT TO THE CONDITIONS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T GOT TO YET.

YES, YOU COULD DO THAT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD A CONDITION TO CLARIFY.

AND I THINK MR. ALEXANDER WAS SAYING SOMETHING BEFORE WE HAD A LITTLE DISRUPTION, SO, WELL, I DON'T, I THINK THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I THINK IF YOU HAVE THE, AT LEAST FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS UP THERE BEFORE WITH THOSE THAT WE ARE READY TO ACCEPT AND THOSE THAT WE MAY DEFER FOR ME, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THE INTENT AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW IT VERY TOP OF THE AC I MEAN THAT'S, BUT, BUT WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE CONDITION THAT, THAT THEY WORKED WITH STAFF TO GET THE HEIGHT ALIGNED WITH THE AC.

AND I GUESS I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION WAS ASKED BY THE APPLICANT OCCUPIED SPACE OR HEIGHT, TOTAL BUILDING HEIGHT WITH SCREENING THAT NEED.

I GUESS I WOULD LOVE SOME DIRECTION ON THAT FOR OUR BENEFIT AS WELL.

I WAS GONNA ADD TO THAT.

SO I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.

'CAUSE I, I THINK IT NEEDS, I THINK ANYWAY, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT OCCUPIED SPACE, BUT I THINK WHEN WE COME WITH ROOFTOP SCREENING ADDS HEIGHT TO THE BUILDING.

UM, AND IN THIS CASE IT'S, IT LOOKS GREAT, IT'S NICE SCREENING, BUT IT'S STILL ADDING HEIGHT TO THE BUILDING.

SO I THINK OUR CAP IS AT THE ROOFTOP SCREENING AND I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY WHERE WE'RE MEASURING FROM FOR EACH BUILDING BECAUSE THE GRADES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

SO I, I THINK, UM, WE WOULD NEED THAT.

THAT'S WHY THIS, THE CONDITION IS GETTING COMPLICATED.

I I JUST, EVERYBODY KNOWS THE INTENT.

I I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO TRY TO WRITE THE CONDITION NOW I WILL SAY THAT THE COMPARISON SLIDE THAT IS SHOWN SHOWS IT AS, AS IF THEY ARE ON THE SAME.

IT IT ALIGNS THEM CORRECTLY.

SO THIS IS NOT SHOWING OKAY, FROM TWO SEPARATE POINTS.

THIS IS A CONTINUUM OF THE TOPOGRAPHY OUT THERE.

SO THIS IS A ACCURATE TELL OF, OF WHERE IT'S AT.

BUT THE, YOUR GOAL INTENT IS THAT THE OVERALL HEIGHT, INCLUDING THE SCREENING DOESN'T NOT EXCEED THE AC.

SO CAN ZACH, ARE YOU WORKING ON NARROWING DOWN THE WAIVERS AND IT'S, WOULD WE CONT, WOULD WE UM, ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF ALSO SAYING BELOW? I MEAN, JUST SO YOU DON'T, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO LOWER, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN THAT, UM, DISCUSSION AS WELL TOO? WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD A CONDITION 'CAUSE THAT WAS JUST SET TO SHARE, TO SHARE THE INTENT THAT THE GOAL ISNT TO NOT EXCEED THAT.

SO IF THEY'RE LOWER, GREAT, THEY JUST CAN'T GO TALLER, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW WE'RE INTERPRETING THAT.

THE NUMBERING WILL BE UPDATED, BUT THERE ARE OFFICIALLY EIGHT WAIVERS UP FOR CONSIDERATIONS TONIGHT WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE THREE PERTAINING TO PRINCIPAL ENTRANCES AND THEN THE HEIGHT AND THEN THE, THE FLOOR HEIGHTS FOR BOTH THE CONDOMINIUM AND THE HOTEL BUILDINGS.

POOR ZACH'S ON THE SPOT TYPING AWAY

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AND I GUESS WE NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, MR. HUNTER? UM, YES.

WE'RE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE WILL USE THAT, THAT EXHIBIT THAT WE SHOWED AS OUR, AS OUR GUIDELINE WE'RE GOOD.

SO, SO I I'M GONNA LOOK FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF EIGHT WAIVERS.

AND NOW I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND.

SO MUCH PRESSURE.

UM, SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH SEVEN CONDITIONS.

SO MOVED SECOND.

READING THROUGH THEM ONE LAST TIME.

AND, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO CONDITIONS.

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UM, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK? I THOUGHT SO.

UM, FIVE MINUTES, 10 MINUTES.

HOW ABOUT HOW LONG WE NEED MYSELF? OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE'LL JUST BE BACK.

SO FIVE MINUTES.

TWO CASES, UH, PERTAIN TO THE SAME PROJECT AND PROPERTY.

WELCOME BACK EVERYBODY.

THANKS FOR HANGING IN THERE.

UM, THE FOLLOWING

[Case #25-082PDP & Case #25-110CU]

THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED TOGETHER THIS EVENING.

SEPARATE ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN FOR EACH CASE.

THE CASES ARE NUMBER 25 DASH 82 PDP AND NUMBER 25 DASH 11 CU BRIDGE NORTH DEVELOPMENT, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A PRE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW A NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW AN ONLINE PARKING STRUCTURE ALONG THE STREET.

THE SEVEN ACRE SITE IS ZONED B-S-D-S-R-N BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, CIDER RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND JOHN SHIELDS, UH, PARKWAY.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS PAUL GADI, 1 8 5 SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET, DUBLIN, OHIO.

UH, I RECOGNIZE THE HOUR, SO I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.

UH, UH, IT WILL BE, WE'LL DO OUR BEST 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A VERY, UH, LARGE PROJECT AS WELL.

UH, WE WILL, WE WILL TRY TO USE THE NAME AT ALL TIMES BRIDGE NORTH.

THE NAME BRIDGE PARK IS A PROTECTED NAME THAT CRAWFORD HOING HAS REGISTERED.

SO WE ARE CALLING OUR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I MAKE THAT POINT ONLY THOUGH TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS WITH

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CRAWFORD HOING.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OUR TWO PROJECTS WORK WELL TOGETHER.

THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY WILL NOT THINK OF THIS AS BRIDGE NORTH OR BRIDGE PARK.

THEY'LL THINK THE OF THE WHOLE THING AS ONE COHESIVE PROJECT.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, UM, YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY AND WE'RE TREATING IT THAT WAY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF HOW THE TWO PROJECTS WORK TOGETHER.

I DO COMMEND THE EFFORTS OF CRAWFORD HOEING AND THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND WHAT HAS BEEN CREATED IN BRIDGE PARK.

IT'S, IT'S FANTASTIC.

UH, FRANKLY, IT'S SO FANTASTIC THAT THREE YEARS AGO MY WIFE AND I DECIDED TO MOVE DOWN TO BRIDGE PARK.

WE LIVED IN BRIDGE PARK FOR A YEAR, AND THEN WE, UH, MOVED OVER TO RIVERVIEW.

SO, UH, WE LOVE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO WALK EVERYWHERE, KIND OF PUT THE CAR AWAY ON THE WEEKENDS AND, AND, AND REALLY ENJOY THE AREA.

I WILL SAY WE'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT LOOK VERY SIMILAR.

THEY MEET THE CODE, BUT THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THINGS THAT HAD BE, THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND CONSTRUCTED IN THE PARTS OF BRIDGE PARK IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF US.

THE ONE, IF I, IF I HAD A CRITICISM AND IT'S HARD TO CRITICIZE WHAT IS WONDERFUL, IF I HAD A CRITICISM, IT WOULD BE, THERE REALLY ISN'T A LOT OF, UH, UH, PLACES TO MEET, CONGREGATE, HAVE, UH, MEETING PLACES THAT, THAT THE BUILDINGS ORIENT AROUND.

SO IF WE COULD DO OUR DEVELOPMENT, AND YOU'LL SEE THE FOCUS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT IS ON A CENTER PARK AREA.

THAT CAN BE PROGRAM SPACE, CAN BE PLACES OF RESPITE.

PEOPLE CAN GO THERE AT LUNCHTIME AND HAVE A SANDWICH CUP OF COFFEE, WHATEVER.

WE WANTED TO BRING PART OF THAT PARK SPACE, THAT PROGRAM SPACE, THAT AREA OF RESPITE INTO OUR, INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE IT ACROSS THE STREET.

SO THAT'S THE ONE AREA WHERE I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT OUR PLAN DEVIATES FROM SOME OF THE PRIOR, UH, AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A BLOCK NAME.

OURS IS JUST BRIDGE NORTH.

YOU WON'T HEAR US REFER TO BLOCK A BLOCK, E BLOCK ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST BRIDGE NORTH.

UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THE SAME CONSULTANTS THAT YOU'VE SEEN, UH, HERE FOR THE PRIOR APPLICATION AND FOR A LOT OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS IN BRIDGE PARK THAT HAVE WORKED WITH CRAWFORD HOING, WE FELT LIKE THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN WHAT THEY'VE CREATED.

LET'S NOT BRING A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE IN AND CHANGE THINGS.

IT WORKS.

LET'S, LET'S, LET'S KEEP DOING WHAT'S, WHAT HAS WORKED.

UH, I WILL SAY, UM, UM, THAT, UH, I'M, I'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT WITH DAIMLER, MYSELF AND MATT CANTERBURY.

MATT JOINED US, JOINED US A FEW YEARS AGO.

HE'S GOT AN ARCHITECTURAL BACKGROUND AND HE'S ALSO, UH, PROBABLY THE BRIGHTEST MIND THAT I KNOW IN CENTRAL OHIO IN THE MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY BUSINESS.

AND SO WE BROUGHT HIM ON A FEW YEARS AGO TO BOLSTER OUR, OUR COMPANY.

SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MATT AND LET MATT GO THROUGH A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT.

2021 FOOT GRADE AND NO MORE THAN 120 FEET OF DISTANCE.

THANK YOU PAUL.

UH, MATT CANTERBURY, 1533 LAKE SHORE.

UM, REALLY KIND WORDS SIT AND EXPECT THOSE, UM, HOPE THAT ECHOES WHEN IT COMES TO HOLIDAY BONUS TIME.

UM, ALL OF THAT SAID, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, OF COURSE HOLDING THIS.

AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PRESENT OURSELVES AS REALLY NEW DEVELOPERS IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DISTRICT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AS PAUL SAID, EXTREMELY EXCITED TO, TO DO A CONTINUANCE OF WHAT HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL HERE, BUT PROBABLY PUT JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT SPIN ON IT AND REALLY SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HOW WE APPROACH DEVELOPMENT DESIGN AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

UM, OUR INTENTION AND THE BRIEF PRESENTATION, AND I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF BASED UPON THE HOUR, IS TO GET THROUGH AND LET YOU INTO OUR HEADS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'VE CONCEPTUALIZED THE SITE, THE CHALLENGES THE SITE HAS PRESENTED, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAVE COME OUT OF WORKING ALONG WITH STAFF AND WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE AS YOU ARE ABLE TO AS A COMMISSION LOOK AT THESE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS AND SEE HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER AND HOW THEY SET IN THE OVERALL SETTING OF WHAT THIS BLOCK WILL BE, WHY THESE DECISIONS WERE MADE TO HOPEFULLY HELP YOU UNDERSTAND REALLY WHERE WE WENT.

SO IF WE COULD WITH THE NEXT SLIDE TI SO IN THIS A LITTLE, LITTLE STORYLINE REALLY FROM CONCEPT OR PRELIMINARY, UM, IN THE BOTTOM, UH, LEFT HAND CORNER WAS OUR CONCEPT DESIGN.

AND FROM THERE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A FEW DIFFERENT STEPS AND PROCESSES.

UM, MANY, MANY MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF CERTAINLY, BUT REALLY KIND OF MELDING A FEW THINGS.

UM, LOOKING AT THE SEAMLESS CONTINUITY BETWEEN THAT OF BRIDGE PARK AND THE FUTURE BRIDGE NORTH.

THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT WAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE FROM A PEDESTRIAN SCALE FROM, UM, THE SOUTH SIDE OF, OF THE ROAD TO THE NORTH SIDE OF JOHN SHIELDS.

UM, YOU WILL NOTE THAT THAT IS A DIVIDED, UH, DRIVEWAY THERE.

SO THAT IS ONE BIG KEY.

THE OTHER KEY IS THAT THE SITE IN THIS PARTICULAR REGION IS ACTUALLY CANTED AND SLOPED MORE SO IN WHAT WILL BE THE SORT OF MIDDLE EAST EASTERN PORTION.

THERE'S ABOUT A

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SO THAT IS OF SIGNIFICANCE IN THE SENSE THAT IT IS MORE EXTREME THAN OTHER SPOTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

UM, AS WE CONTINUED THROUGH WITH THE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS AND THEIR FOCUS, WE LISTENED, WE LISTENED QUITE A BIT, WE HAD ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

UM, MS. RA, UM, MS. SING WERE VERY PATIENT WITH US, FRANKLY, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS AND ASKING, WELL WHAT DID THEY DO WELL, WHAT DID THEY DO? OKAY, HOW DO WE, I'LL GO ALONG THE SAME WAYS.

SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, BUT ALSO IN THE MID STOPPING POINT FROM CONCEPT TO WHERE WE STAND IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH COUNCIL TO WORK THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED AND SIGNED.

AND THAT'S REALLY LAID OUT A LOT OF THE MATRIX OF THE SIZE, SCALE, DENSITY, NUMBER OF PARKING THAT IS, IS THERE BELOW.

SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, START FROM THE OUTSIDE IN REALLY HOW DO PEOPLE GET TO THIS SITE? THERE ARE A FEW CHALLENGES IN THE SENSE THAT AS, AS LONGSHORE WAS TO CONTINUE NORTH, WE TALKED ABOUT JOHN SHIELDS BEING A DIVIDED PARKWAY.

UM, REALLY THE TRAFFIC AS YOU GO NORTH ON LONGSHORE IS ALL GONNA BE FED BY WESTBOUND ON JOHN SHIELDS.

SO THERE IS NO LEFT TURN AS YOU GO EASTBOUND.

UM, FURTHER, THE OTHER CHALLENGE WITH JOHN SHIELDS THERE, AS WE NOTED BEFORE, IS HOW DO YOU GET PEDESTRIANS ACROSS ON WHAT IS A VERY FAST ROAD? WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT DESIGN SOLUTION HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

AS WE LOOK UP ON TELLER, ONE OF THE THINGS COMING OUTTA THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS A, UH, CRITICISM AND CHALLENGE FRANKLY, AS TO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ACTIVATE TELLER? WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT STREET SCAPE? HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE WORKED WITH ENGINEERING AND STAFF TO REALLY LOOK AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT IDEAS AS TO HOW TO TAKE THE DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS AND ACTUALLY TURN THE CORNER WITH THEM SO IT'S NOT JUST A THREE-LANE ROAD, BUT IN FACT MAYBE IT'S DOWN TO TWO LANES.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR TRAFFIC AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET SOUTHBOUND ON LONGSHORE COMING IN OFF TELLER.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE TO YOUR LEFT IS THE, UH, SOLUTION FOR JOHN SHIELDS TO THE RIGHT THAT OF TALLER.

UM, STARTING WITH JOHN SHIELDS.

UM, EMH AND T DID A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THIS IN, IN MY ESTIMATION AND THE, THE AERIAL AS YOU EX EXIST TODAY, AT THE TOP YOU'LL SEE THE PARALLEL PARKING AS CONSISTENT WITH THE OLD ROADWAY PLAN AND THE STREET, THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, UM, IN THE MIDDLE AND THE BELOW IS WHERE WE'VE ENDED UP.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ACTUALLY CANTED THE ROAD AND TURNED IT A LITTLE BIT MORE NORTH.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UM, WHAT IS WEST OF LONGSHORE AND NORTH OF JOHN SHIELDS, THAT PARALLEL PARKING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TAKEN AWAY IN THAT SMALL LITTLE STRIP.

WHAT THAT'S ALLOWED FOR IS IT'S ALLOWED TO TAKE A THREE FOOT MEDIAN AND TURN IT INTO A NINE FOOT MEDIAN.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ALLOWS FOR THAT SAFER PEDESTRIAN CROSSING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF RESPITE IN THE MIDDLE AND IT ALLOWS A BETTER DIVISION TO HOPEFULLY SLOW THAT TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT THAT IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.

PAUL TALKED ABOUT THE CONGRUENCE AND THE CONSISTENCY OF THE CAPABILITY OF THE PEDESTRIANS, AND WE BELIEVE VERY WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN THAT MOVE AS WE GO UP TO TELLER.

UM, AND AS IT WAS SUGGESTED BY THE CITY, UM, WE THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK ACTUALLY VERY BRILLIANTLY IN THE SENSE THAT IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A RIGHT OFF OF RIVERSIDE AND COME IN, TELLER RIGHT NOW IS ESSENTIALLY A THREE LANE ROAD, ONE GOING EASTBOUND, THE OTHER WESTBOUND WITH A CENTER TURN LANE.

UM, THE OPPORTUNITY THERE TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT HERE AND ALSO HAVE FOLKS TURN RIGHT.

WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT WHEN YOU TURN RIGHT THERE SOUTHBOUND ONTO LONGSHORE, THAT IS WHERE OUR HOTEL IS LOCATED AND THE HOTEL WILL HAVE VALET SERVICES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE WILL ALIGN DIRECTLY WITH ACCESS INTO THE GARAGE.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE A MAJOR, UM, AREA OF TRAFFIC FLOW INTO THE SITE.

AND THEN AS YOU GO UP THE HILL WHERE I TALKED ABOUT THE MORE STEEP GRADE, THERE ARE PARALLEL SPACES.

NOW A REMINDER ALONG THAT STRETCH IS THE CONTINUAL BIKE PATHWAY.

SO THAT GAVE US ANOTHER CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF WHAT TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THAT.

SO THAT IS IN FACT INSIDE OF THE PARALLEL SPACES.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR, OUR NODE TO LANDSCAPING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A, A LOT OF GREENWAY THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

I'M SORRY, DO WEST AND THE OTHER SOUTH.

NOW THAT WE MOVE INWARD FROM TRAFFIC, WE'VE GOTTA TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET PEDESTRIANS THROUGH THIS BLOCK.

UM, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE REALLY START TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CENTRAL PARK THAT, UH, PAUL ALLUDED TO, BUT MOST NOTABLY STARTING FROM THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT IN THE ORANGE CIRCLES.

WHEN YOU ARE IN THIS PARKING GARAGE, WHICH IS IN THE NORTHEAST COM COMPONENT OF THE SITE, YOU'LL HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS OUT THAT'LL BE SIGNED FROM INSIDE THE GARAGE ON THE LEFT SIDE THAT IS GOING TO BE SIGNED IN THE GARAGE AS THE, UH, LOBBY AND HOTEL ELEVATOR THAT'S GONNA TAKE YOU DOWN AND ACTUALLY SPIT YOU OUT ON A STOREFRONT ON THE GROUND LEVEL DIRECTLY ACROSS THE CROSSWALK WHERE YOU WOULD GO DIRECTLY OVER TO THE GARAGE.

WE HAVE TWO, UH, BRIDGES CONSISTENT WITH THAT, THAT EXIST TODAY IN THE DISTRICT THAT DO GO ACROSS FROM THE GARAGE TO BOTH OF THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS.

ONE DO EAST,

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AND THEN WE HAVE THE MAIN LOBBY ELEVATOR THAT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN, TAKES EVERYBODY DOWN TO THE GROUND LEVEL AND SPITS YOU OUT IN THE PARK.

NOW THE INTENTION OF THAT IS A VERY URBAN MOVE, IN MY OPINION, A VERY PURPOSEFUL COLLISION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES WHERE WE WANNA CREATE A BIG NODE OF ACTIVITY.

HERE YOU'LL SEE THE PARK, UM, OVER 21 FEET OF DISTANCE BETWEEN MOONEY AND THAT OF LONGSHORE.

THE INTENT HERE, AS PAUL WAS SAYING, IS TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T QUITE EXIST UNLESS YOU SHUT THE ROADS DOWN.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROGRAM THIS.

THIS IS, THIS CAN BE JUST A DYNAMIC SPACE.

YOU'VE GOT PATIOS ON EITHER SIDE FROM WHAT WOULD BE RESTAURANTS YOU HAVE ENTERING IT FROM THE WEST, I'M SORRY, FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST.

IT ALMOST APPEARS LIKE A SMALL LITTLE POINT POCKET PARK UNTIL YOU GET TO THE EDGE OF THE OVERLOOK.

WHEN YOU'RE AT THE OVERLOOK, YOU LOOK DOWN INTO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PROGRAMMED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

YOU'VE GOT, I MEAN IMAGINE WEDNESDAY NIGHT ACOUSTIC MUSIC FAMILY FRIDAY NIGHTS, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY SPILL SOUTH, I'M SORRY, SCREEN SOUTH DIRECTIONALLY WEST ACROSS TO UM, THE OTHER BUILDING WHERE THE ARCHITECTURE ACTUALLY RESPONDS TO THAT OPEN SPACE.

WE BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THIS CAN BE ONE OF THE MORE DYNAMIC SPACES AND ACT AS A MAGNET TO BRING PEOPLE NORTH ACROSS JOHN SHIELDS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AS THEY EXHIBIT AND EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING.

FURTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THE EDGE GROUP HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN ACTUALLY CREATING SOME POCKET PARKS AND SOME EXPERIENCES ALONG THE WAY.

IN THE TOP OR MIDDLE LEFT, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE PARK SPACE THAT ALBEIT SMALL, THAT IS IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO OUR SOUTHEAST, I'M SORRY, TO OUR DUE EAST.

WE HAVE AN INTERESTING ARCHITECTURAL CONDITION WHERE WHAT YOU HAVE IS A VERY SUBURBAN MINDSET THAT IS COLLIDING WITH AN URBAN MINDSET.

SO ACROSS MOONEY STREET, WHERE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING IS WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SET THAT BUILDING REALLY HARD WITH A ZERO LOT LINE.

WE DECIDED TO ACTUALLY PULL IT BACK AND GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF.

AND THAT RELIEF IN THAT PARK SPACE WILL HOPEFULLY ALLOW FOR A LITTLE SOFTER CONDITION AS YOU TRANSVERSE THAT DIRECTION.

UH, BETWEEN THE, IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER IS THE HOTEL THAT POCKET PARK.

UM, CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU THE USE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT THERE IS A DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW WITH A VIBRANT USER THAT WOULD REALLY ACTIVATE THAT PATIO THAT'S SHOWN IN THE BOTTOM OF THAT, THAT DRAWING.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY WHEN IT'S NICE OUTSIDE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT ITSELF WILL BRING ACTIVATION TO THE PARK.

AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS BETWEEN THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THAT OF THE, UM, MIDDLE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OFF OF RIVERSIDE.

AND THAT IS A PARK THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT EXISTS TODAY AND PROBABLY MORE AKIN FROM A SIZE AND STANDPOINT TO THE POCKET PARKS THAT ARE FURTHER SOUTH IN THE DISTRICT.

UM, AND ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS ACTUALLY NEXT TO A ALONG TELLER.

YOU'LL START TO GET REALLY CONCEPTUALIZE THAT SLOPE IN THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY CREATED TERRACES ALONG THE BIKE PATH OF LITTLE AREAS FOR RESPITE, BUT ALSO THOSE TERRACES FEED DIFFERENT ENTRY POINTS ALONG THAT FACADE.

WITH THAT REALLY, UM, I WANNA REITERATE THAT THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A VERY JOYFUL PROCESS.

THIS IS A VERY BUSY SLIDE, BUT IT'S BUSY FOR A PURPOSE.

WE'RE CALLING THIS OUR PLANNING GUIDELINES SITE ANALYSIS.

AND THE REASON THAT THIS IS HERE IS TO JUST SHOW YOU EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE FOR AND TO MAYBE START UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE ARCHITECTURAL VOCABULARY THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE THROUGHOUT THE PACKET.

UM, THE RED CIRCLES ARE THOSE OF GATEWAY BUILDING LOCATIONS THAT THE ZONING AND PLANNING GUIDELINES ASK FOR.

THE YELLOW IS REALLY OUR FOCUS OF THE CENTRAL PARK THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FOCUSED ON.

YOUR PINK CIRCLES ARE REALLY IN THE MAJOR CORNERS, THOSE ARE THE FOCAL CORNERS AND OR THE, UH, TERMINUS POINTS THAT THE, UH, THE CODE IS ASKING FOR.

AND WORKING WITH STAFF WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON QUITE A BIT.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE, UH, GREEN CIRCLES THAT TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THE MECHANICAL AND THE REFUSE.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE ARE LOCATED VERY STRATEGICALLY TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF INTERSECTIONS ONTO LONGSHORE BY WHICH WE'VE LOCATED THOSE.

AND YOU'LL MOST NOTABLY SEE THOSE IN THE SMALL CORNER POCKETS OF THE BUILDINGS.

AS WE GET TO THE BLUE CIRCLE, AK ONE, SORRY, , THE BLUE CIRCLES AGAIN ARE NOT AGAIN, BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME ARE THE ACTUAL MAIN ENTRIES TO THE BUILDINGS FROM THE PEDESTRIAN SIDE AND SCALE.

SO ALL OF THIS SAID TO SET UP NEXT SLIDE.

GOTCHA.

WHAT ARE REALLY THE MAIN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE SPACE? AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE PRIMARY ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT, UM, WE ARE ABLE TO INTRODUCE ANY OF OUR DESIGNERS WHEN IT GETS TO THE PART OF DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE DETAILS AND OR THE PURPOSES FOR THE MASSING AND, UM, SOME OF THE MAJOR VIEWS AND FINAL SLIDE

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THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, GROUPS THAT WON'T SPEND THE TIME WITH YOU THE WAY THAT THE DUBLIN STAFF DOES, SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT AND WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING THIS FORWARD.

I KNOW THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS TO DO.

WE'RE IN PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE A VERY, UM, PURPOSEFUL AND DILIGENT JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MATCHED AS BEST WE COULD.

WHAT WE'VE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO COMING IN HERE FROM THE GET GO.

AND THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, SIX STORY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS THE DENSITY IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE CAN STAND BEHIND.

FROM A NUMBER STANDPOINT, WE BELIEVE WORKS AND WE'RE VERY INTERESTED TO SIT BACK, LISTEN AND RESPOND AND HEAR ANY OF YOUR COMMENTS.

REDUCING THE PARKING SPACES AS WELL AS THE SIZE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO STAFF NOW FOR STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.

SO APPLICANT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE PROJECT.

I WILL BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE REQUEST, THE PROCESS AND STAFF FINDINGS TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS FOR COMMISSIONS CONSIDERATION.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE PDP APPLICATION WITHIN THE BRI STREET DISTRICT.

THE DEVELOPMENT IS GENERALLY A THREE STEP PROCESS AND TONIGHT WE ARE AT THE SECOND STEP AT PDP, THE PURPOSE IS TO ASSURE THAT THERE IS CONSISTENCY WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE LAYOUT, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MASEK AND GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE BUILDINGS.

A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION IS A SECOND APPLICATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED WHEN A CONDITIONAL USE IS REQUESTED WITH ANY APPLICATION.

THE PDP ALSO INCLUDES CONSIDERATION OF WAIVERS, WHICH ARE DEVIATIONS FROM SPECIFIC CODE REQUIREMENTS.

WAIVER REQUESTS ARE TYPICALLY EXPECTED AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS UNDER THE BRISK STREET DISTRICT CODE AND ARE IMPORTANT TOOLS FOR APPLICANTS TO CREATE A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS VERY UNIQUE AND DISTINCT.

THEY ALSO PERMIT A FORM BASED CODE TO BE SOFTENED BASED ON UNIQUE SITE CONDITIONS AND ALL THE VAPOR REQUESTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE MET HAS TO BE MEET THE REVIEW CRITERIA AS LISTED IN THE CODE.

THE SEVEN ACRE SITE IS LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY BOUND TO NORTH PATELLA ROAD AND TO EAST BY PROPOSED MOONEE STREET EXTENSION.

THE SITE IS CURRENTLY AWAKEN AND CONTAINS MINIMAL VEGETATION AND IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE AT THE APPLICANT MANSION ABOUT 21 FEET FROM EAST TO THE WEST.

THE PRESTIG DISTRICT CODE CREATES NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT THAT EMPHASIZED THE LOCATION AND CHARACTER OF BUILDING STREETS AND OPEN SPACE TO SUPPORT A COORDINATED MIX OF USE.

THIS SITE IS LOCATED INSIDE OR RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH OFFERS A PRIME OPPORTUNITY FOR THOUGHTFUL PLANNING FEATURING A MAKE OF RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND OTHER TYPE OF USERS.

THE STREET NETWORK IS DESIGNED TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE AND WALKABLE CONNECTING ALL THESE DIFFERENT DIVERSE USES TO EACH OTHER.

THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE WITH THE YELLOW STAR AND IS IDENTIFIED FOR GATEWAY FEATURES AT BOTH AT THE NORTHWEST AND THE SOUTHWEST.

LOCATIONS PER CODE GATE BAY LOCATION ARE THE POINT OF IDENTIFICATION THAT PROVIDES SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND THIS SHALL BE VERY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED MEETING.

THE PRINCIPLES OF WALKING URBANISM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER DUE TO THE CURVATURE OF THE ROAD, UM, IS RECOGNIZED AS A TERMINAL VISTA, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN ORANGE TERMINAL.

VISTAS REQUIRE SPECIAL ATTENTION AS WELL BY INCORPORATING SOME VERTICAL ELEMENTS TO TERMINATE THE VIEW EITHER BY PUBLIC OPEN SPACE ENHANCEMENTS OR BY INCORPORATING ADDITIONAL BUILDING ELEMENTS OR MAYBE A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

RIVER RIGHT SIDE IS PLANNED TO HAVE AN OPEN SPACE CORRIDOR WITH A CENTRAL OPEN SPACE NODE THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BLOCK.

THERE IS A FUTURE BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER, WHICH MAKES JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY A VERY PROMINENT GATEWAY LOCATION AS WELL.

THE BRI STREET DISTRICT CODE CREATES A VERY GRIDED STREET NETWORK WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF STREET.

RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS A CORRIDOR CONNECTOR AND A PRINCIPAL FRONTED STREET WITH A TELLER ROAD AND JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY AS DISTRICT CONNECTOR AND AGAIN, PRINCIPAL TRUSTEES.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES EXTENDING THE LONG SHORT STREET WHICH SU STAFF SUPPORTS.

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED WITHIN THE BRI STREET DISTRICT NETWORK PLAN.

THE CONNECTION CONTINUED TO PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED CORRIDOR WHICH FITS INTO THE VISION AND CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT.

UH, IT'LL BE A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET TYPE.

UM, THERE WILL BE NO TRAFFIC STUDY NEEDED AT THIS STAGE AS THE PROPOSAL FITS WITHIN THE EXPECTED DENSITY.

THERE IS A, I'M GOING TO QUICKLY SHARE THE QUICK CASE HISTORY.

THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROVED UM, IN 2023, UM, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK WITH, UH, THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THE APPLICANT WAS REQUIRED TO CONSOLIDATE HOTEL IN THE GARAGE ACCESS POINTS AND PROVIDE GARAGE ACCESS FROM LONGSHORE STREET.

THEY WERE REQUIRED TO REDUCE THE BUILDING MASSING, ENSURING THAT THE HEIGHTS COMPLY WITH THE CODE AND EXPLORE

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UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF EMPHASIS TO CREATE UNIQUE GATEWAY FEATURES AND THAT WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT IT HAS TO BE A UNIQUE GATEWAY FEATURE AT KEY INTERSECTIONS AND INCORPORATE A VERY HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL DRIVE, UH, DESIGN AS WELL AS ACTIVATING THE NORTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS A LONG TOLER ROAD.

UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UM, THE FEW TAKEAWAYS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE THAT THE SITE HAD TO BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THERE IS AN ONE ACRE OF OPEN SPACE DEDICATION DEFICIENCY, UM, WHICH WAS APPROVED WITH THAT AND THE CENTRAL PARK POCKET PARK A AND POCKET PARK B, WHICH WERE THE THREE MAIN OPEN SPACES IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS ARE THE REQUIRED ELEMENTS OF THIS DESIGN.

AND THE CERTAIN ELEMENTS LIKE BRIDGES AND PEDESTRIAN, UM, BRIDGES, ET CETERA, CAN ENCROACH WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THE GARAGE HAS TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 6 1 8 SPACES OF PARKING.

THE EXTENSION OF THE LONGFIELD DRIVE AND MOONEY STREET WILL DIVIDE THIS ENTIRE PARCEL INTO TWO RECTANGULAR BLOCKS.

ALTHOUGH THESE BLOCKS ARE DESIGNED CONSISTENTLY WITH THE OTHER BLOCKS WITHIN THE BRI STREET DISTRICT, A WAIVER IS REQUIRED FOR THE BLOCK DIMENSIONS AS THEY EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PARAMETER AND THE LENGTH WHICH IS PERMITTED BY THE CODE.

THE GRADING OF THIS SITE ACTUALLY PRESENT CHALLENGES TO PROVIDE A SPEED CONNECTION THROUGH THE BLOCKS AND STOP AS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT WAIVER.

THERE IS A LIMITED ACCESS INTERSECTION ALONG LONG SHORE AND TELLER THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

UM, THESE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE COUPLED WITH REALIGNMENT OF A SECTION OF JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY AS WELL AS PROVIDING, UM, A RIGHT TURN LANE FROM TELLER ROAD.

THE APPLICANT WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH STAFF ON THE ACCESS ALIGNMENT AS WELL AS THE RIGHT TURN DEDICATION THAT IS ALONG TELLER ROAD.

WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THERE ARE FOUR ACCESS THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

UM, ALL THESE FOUR AXIS ARE SHOWN AND IT WAS EARLIER SHOWN BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

TWO OF THESE ARE FOR THE VEHICULAR.

UM, AS PER THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, THEY'VE TRIED TO COMBINE THOSE ACCESS POINT AND THE ADDITIONAL TWO ACCESS POINTS ARE FOR THE, UM, TRASH WITH THE GRAND APPROVAL, WHICH IS TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, THERE WERE TWO ACCESS POINTS AND IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT WITH THE UH, CONNECTION OF THE MOONEY STREET, THOSE CONNECTION POINTS WILL BE ESTABLISHED WHENEVER THIS ROAD IS DONE.

THE GRAND OWNER DOES NOT WISH TO CONNECT THE NORTHERN ACCESS POINT, UM, WHICH IS UM, ONTO THE LEFT.

UM, AND STAFF IS CONSULTED WITH, UM, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP FIRE.

UM, THEY DO NOT HAVE, UM, ANY PROBLEM AT THIS STAGE BY NOT CON MAKING THAT CONNECTION.

SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

HOWEVER, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS BUFFERING SO THAT IT PROVIDES A VERY SEAMLESS VISUAL TRANSITION ON THAT ROAD.

OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS ARE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND COMMERCIAL SPACE WITHIN THE BRI STREET DISTRICT.

THIS PROJECT REQUIRES 1.44 ACRE OF OPEN SPACE, WHEREAS 0.77 ACRE IS PROVIDED ON THE SITE.

UM, THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY SHARED ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE DETAILS, SO I'M JUST GOING TO QUICKLY, UM, RUN THROUGH THAT.

THERE ARE TWO PLAZAS AND THEN, THEN THERE ARE FOUR POCKET PLAZAS WHICH ARE SCATTERED ALL THROUGH THE SITE.

UM, THE ANALYSIS HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED BUT THE OPEN SPACE.

SO STAFF WOULD REQUIRE THAT DETAILED ANALYSIS TO ENSURE THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT AND IT MEETS THE, UM, MINIMUM STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

UM, AND THEY MUST BE SUBMITTED AT THE FTP TO DETERMINE IF ANY WAIVERS WOULD BE NEEDED.

UM, NOW I'LL QUICKLY JUMP ONTO BUILDINGS BY BUILDINGS.

THE HOTEL BUILDING IS A CORRIDOR TYPE BUILDING.

THE CORNER OF TOLERANT RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS IDENTIFIED AS A GATEWAY LOCATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DESIGN INTERVENTIONS TO PROVIDE A UNIQUE GATEWAY FEATURE AT THE FTP.

IT WAS ALSO REQUIRED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AT CONCEPT PLAN.

ADDITIONAL DESIGN ENHANCEMENT ARE ALSO RECOMMENDED TO MEET THE FACADE REQUIREMENTS ALONG LER ROAD STAFF HAD MADE VARIOUS COMMENTS WITHIN THE STAFF REPORTS AND THEY'RE ALSO LISTED HERE, UM, STAFFS WITH THIS STAFF SUPPORT SEVEN WAIVERS, WHICH ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.

ALL THESE SEVEN WAIVERS MEET THE, UH, REVIEW CRITERIA AS LISTED IN DETAIL OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE PERMITTED PRIMARY MATERIALS.

THERE IS A PROPOSAL FOR 10 BRICK ON THE UPPER FLOORS.

THIS IS A TRUE CLAY TWIN BRICK AND IT IS BEING ON USED ONLY ON UPPER TWO FLOORS.

OFFICE IS AGAIN A CORRIDOR TYPE BUILDING.

UH, THE CORNER OF RIVERSIDE AND JOHN SHIELDS IS ALSO IDENTIFIED AS A GATEWAY LOCATION.

THIS CORNER IS STRATEGICALLY MORE

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IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PLANNED JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY EXTENSION.

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT EXISTS TO ENHANCE THE CORNER WITH SOME LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS AND PUBLIC SEATING AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT APPLICANT CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THIS FEATURE.

FURTHER EMPHASIS IS NEEDED ON THE PRINCIPAL ENTRANCE, WHICH IS ALONG THE LONG SHORE DRIVE, UM, WHICH CAN BE ACHIEVED EITHER BY ARCHITECTURAL DETAILING OR CANOPIES.

UM, STAFF HAS MADE COMMENTS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND AS LISTED HERE, THERE ARE SOME DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE FLOOR PLAN AND ELEVATIONS.

STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, SORTING THAT AT THE FTP AND THEN PROVIDE GLAZING SPECIFICATIONS AND OTHER DETAILS AS REQUIRED AT THE FTP.

BUT THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF EIGHT WAIVERS, WHICH ARE ALL LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.

UM, THE REVIEW CRITERIA AND DETAIL ANALYSIS IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT.

THE RESIDENTIAL A IS AGAIN, A CORRIDOR TYPE BUILDING IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF UH, MOONEY STREET AND JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY.

UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS REFINING THE POCKET PARK DESIGN TO BETTER MEET THE TERMINAL VISTA REQUIREMENTS AS MENTIONED EARLIER AND REQUIRED TO COLLABORATE WITH STAFF TO ENHANCE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE, WHICH IS ALONG UM, MOONEY STREET, UM, FOR A GREATER FACADE PROMINENCE.

UM, THERE ARE AGAIN DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE FLOW PLAN AND EVALUATIONS AND FTP UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS RESOLVING ALL THOSE DISCREPANCIES.

STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS TO ENSURE, UM, THAT THE FUTURE STOREFRONT DESIGN WINDOWS COMPLY WITH CODE AT PRESENT.

ALL OF THE UH, WINDOWS ARE NOTED THAT THEY WILL BE INFILL PANELS, WHICH WILL BE PAINTED TO MATCH THE BUILDING UNTIL TENANT OCCUPANCY.

SO STAFF IS UNABLE TO EVALUATE THE TRANSPARENCY.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WHATEVER THE STOREFRONT FUTURE DESIGN WILL BE, IT MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND AGAIN, AS MENTIONED WITH THE PREVIOUS BUILDING, PROVIDE BLAZING SPECIFICATIONS AND OTHER DETAILS.

UM, FOR THIS BUILDING, APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO USE ARIS CRAFT CASTSTONE.

UM, THIS MATERIAL HAS BEEN USED WITHIN THE BRI STREET DISTRICT BEFORE, UH, FOR OTHER BUILDINGS.

UM, OUR CONSULTANT HAS ALSO PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON THAT.

THIS IS A HIGH QUALITY MATERIAL, BUT GIVEN THE CLIMATE AND THE TEMPERATURE ZONE OF OHIO, THIS IS NOT A VERY RECOMMENDED MATERIAL, ESPECIALLY AT THE LOWER LEVEL WHERE IT TOUCHES THE GROUND.

STAFF RECOMMENDS EXPLORING A DIFFERENT MATERIAL WHEREVER THIS HAS BEEN USED, WHERE IT TOUCHES THE GROUND FOR THIS BUILDING.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SIX PAVERS, WHICH ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE DETAIL ANALYSIS IS WITHIN THE REPORT.

THE RESIDENTIAL B BUILDING CORRIDOR IS AGAIN A CORRIDOR BUILDING.

IT FACES RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UM, THE PRINCIPAL ENTRANCE FOR THIS BUILDING, UM, LACKS DISTINCTION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT IT MUST BE ENHANCED FOR A GREATER PROMINENCE ON THE FACADE, WHICH IS A LONG, LONG SHORT.

AND AGAIN, RESOLVE THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE PLANTS AND THE ELEVATIONS.

THERE IS SOME FACADE FENESTRATION MISALIGNED BETWEEN THE ELEVATION AND THE FLOOR PLANS.

AGAIN, IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO FULLY EVALUATE THE VERTICAL INCREMENT AND OTHER DETAILS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS PROVIDING ALL OF THAT AT FTP.

UM, AT FTP, UM, ON THE DETAILED ARCHITECTURAL SITE.

PLANS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO EVALUATE THE FULLY TRANSITION OF MATERIALS AS WELL.

THERE IS A USE OF MILLENNIUM TILE, WHICH IS USED ON THE UPPER FLOORS AND IT IS NOT USED ON THE NORTH FLOOR.

STAFF RECOMMENDS INCORPORATING THAT FOR A MORE COHESIVE MATERIAL PALETTE ALL AROUND THE BUILDING.

AGAIN, FOR THE STOREFRONT WINDOWS, THE CONDITION REMAINS THE SAME.

UM, TO PROVIDE ALL THAT DETAILS FOR TRANSPARENCY CALCULATIONS FOR THIS BUILDING, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SIX FAVORS, WHICH ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.

RA IS A PARKING STRUCTURE BUILDING TYPE, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION IS TIED IN.

IT DOES NOT HAVE A LINER ALONG LONG SHORE, UM, DRIVE AND IT HAS A PARTIAL LINER ALONG, UM, TELLER STREET.

SO IT'LL REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL NEWSPAPER.

STAFF RECOMMENDS PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE MOONEY AND TOLER INTERSECTION AND FURTHER FIND THAT PARKING STRUCTURE.

CORNER DESIGN.

SINCE THIS IS A KEY ENTRANCE FROM TELLER ROAD, STAFF RECOMMENDS EXPLORING OTHER COM COMPLIMENTARY MASONRY MATERIALS TO BREAK THAT MONOTONY OF THE BUILDING MATERIAL THAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.

AND AGAIN, UM, RESOLVE THE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE FLOOR PLANTS AND OTHER ELEVATIONS.

WITH THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SIX WAIVERS.

UM, THE WAIVER FOR THE MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS LOT COVERAGE IS COMBINED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL LINER BECAUSE THEY ARE ON ONE LOT.

SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF SIX WAIVER INCLUDING THE LOT COVERAGE FOR THE NEXT BUILDING.

THE RESIDENTIAL LINER IS THE CORRIDOR BUILDING TYPE.

UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS ENHANCING THE MATERIAL PALLET AT THE GARAGE ENTRY, WHICH IS DIRECTLY APOL TO THE HOTEL MAIN ENTRY.

UH, TO IMPROVE A PEDESTRIAN AND GUEST EXPERIENCE

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UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT, UM, APPLICANT CONTINUE TO WORK PROVIDING EITHER WITH THE PARAPET REP OR MECHANICAL SCREENING, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN SHOWN FOR THIS BUILDING.

UM, AGAIN, THE STOREFRONT WINDOWS DETAILS ARE, NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE CODE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS TWO S AND THE WAIVER FOR THE LOT COVERAGE WAS COMBINED WITH THE PREVIOUS BUILDING.

SO THESE ARE THE TOTAL, UH, WAIVERS WHICH ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE WAIVER REQUESTS ARE TYPICALLY EXPECTED AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS UNDER THE BRI STREET DISTRICT CODE.

AND THERE AGAIN, THE IMPORTANT TOOLS FOR THE APPLICANTS TO, UM, CREATE A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO SOFT HINT BASED ON THE UNIQUE SITE CONDITIONS.

LISTED HERE ARE THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN CRITERIA.

MOST OF THE CRITERIA ARE EITHER MET WITH CONDITIONS OR WAIVERS, OR THEY'RE MET.

LISTED HERE ARE THE CONDITIONAL USE CRITERIA.

STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

CONDITIONAL USE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF 36 WAIVERS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH EIGHT CONDITIONS AS LISTED HERE.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO CONDITIONS.

WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. SINK, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION NOW FOR, SORRY, FOR, UH, QUESTIONS FOR EITHER THE APPLICANT OR STAFF.

YOU WANNA START WITH JAMIE START DAN'S ALL BY HIMSELF DOWN THERE, SO JUST, I GIVEN HIM A BREAK IF YOU GUYS FORGOT I WAS OVER HERE START.

SURE.

UM, THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS.

UM, SO STAFF IS, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MEDIAN ON JOHN SHIELDS THAT WOULD PREVENT LONGSHORE FROM GOING ACROSS.

IS THAT PREFERRED VERSUS YES, IT'S MORE OF A TRAFFIC QUESTION.

YEAH, SORRY, TINA.

TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, THE MEDIAN, THERE IS AN EXISTING MEDIAN THERE ON, UM, JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY AT LONG SHORE.

IT'S REALLY FOR THE LONG, LONG-TERM CORRIDOR OF JOHN SHIELDS AS THAT CROSSES THE RIVER.

RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, SO THAT INTERSECTION SPACING GETS A LITTLE TIGHT WHEN YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN THAT MEDIA AND I THINK THE, UM, GROUP DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING HOW THEY COULD ENHANCE THAT MEDIAN A LITTLE BIT, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE WALKABLE.

UM, BUT WE DO WANT TO KEEP THAT FOR THE VEHICULAR, UH, LEFT TURN RESTRICTION.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD CHANGE WITH THE EXTENSION OF LONG SHORE.

UM, AND ALSO FOR STAFF.

UM, SO I KNOW THERE WAS A WAIVER ON THE PUBLIC, UH, OR OPEN SPACE AND UH, PART OF THAT WAS DUE TO THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARKS PROXIMITY.

DO YOU KNOW, HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER WAIVERS THAT HAVE KIND OF LEANED ON THAT OPEN SPACE TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS? AND DO WE HAVE A TOTAL NUMBER SOME WAY TO KIND OF QUANTIFY WHETHER WE, WE'VE USED UP THAT OPEN SPACE? WE HAVE, AND THAT WAS A DISCUSSION AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

BRIDGE PARK, UM, HAD USED THAT I BELIEVE FOR AB AND C BLOCKS COUNTED, UM, OR USED RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK TO COUNT TOWARDS SOME OF THEIR REQUIRED OPEN SPACE.

SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

AND THEN I GUESS, WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT THERE'S STILL ENOUGH OPEN SPACE THAT ISN'T CLAIMED FOR THAT USE LEFT IN RIVERSIDE, THAT IT DOESN'T KIND OF TAX THAT OVERALL USE? MM-HMM .

MS. GER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

UM, QUESTION ABOUT MOONEY STREET.

IS THERE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OR IS IT JUST ONE SIDE? I WAS NOTICING GO AHEAD.

SO THE APPLICANT IS SHOWING PARKING ON BOTH SIDES AND THEY'RE USING THAT WITHIN THE CALCULATIONS.

HOWEVER, THIS WILL BE A CONTINUED DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE PARKING THAT IS ALONG, UH, THE WEST SIDE OF THE MOONEE STREET WILL BE COUNTER TOWARDS THE CALCULATION FOR THE PARKING SPACES.

AND THEN, UM, WOULD YOU AGREE, LIKE THEY WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE SLOWING DOWN THE TRAFFIC? I THINK IT, I FIND MY NOTES HERE, UM, BUT, BUT JUST RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, JUST, UM, THE SLOWING DOWN OF TRAFFIC ON ONE OF THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, I THINK IT WAS TELLER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT IT'S KIND OF FAST AND, AND SOME OF THE MITIGATIONS THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING.

BUT I THINK NARROWING THAT PAYMENT SECTION, NARROWING THE, THE TRAVEL WAY AND THE LANE WIDTHS THEMSELVES, UM, WILL ENCOURAGE THAT.

AND THE APPLICANT'S WELCOME TO SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL,

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HAVING A BUILDING FACE CLOSER TO THAT, UM, STREET SCAPE ENVIRONMENT WILL ALSO HELP TO KIND OF CLOSE IN THAT SPACE.

UM, BIKE P FACILITIES, HOPEFULLY WITH LOTS OF USE .

I'LL KIND OF HELP TO CREATE THAT WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT.

AND IMPROVE SPEED COMPLIANCE.

AND THEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE GRAND, WE HAVEN'T REALLY MENTIONED THEM AT ALL.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT.

JUST THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS AREA.

THEY, THEY'RE NOT LIKE A ISLAND ON THEIR OWN.

SO THERE ARE TWO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST SIDE.

ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? UH, ESSENTIALLY AS, AS PART OF THIS AND AS PART OF PUTTING MOODY IN, WE ARE, WE'RE TO CONNECT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S ALSO ACCESSIBLE PATHWAYS DOWN TO THE SIDEWALK.

AND THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR PROJECT.

WOULD YOU BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM OR? WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

THEY'RE AWARE OF THE, THE PROJECT.

UM, THEY ARE AWARE OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE ACCESSIBLE ROUTES THERE AND WILLING TO WORK WITH US.

I HAVE, OH, THE ART.

UM, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD ABOUT THAT? ANY INSTALLATIONS THAT, LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, ART ON THE WALL OR ART AROUND THE FACILITIES? ANYTHING? I, I THINK IN GENERAL WE ARE MUCH LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENED THROUGHOUT BRIDGE PARK, WE ARE GOING TO, AND WE'VE NOT YET AT THIS POINT IN TIME TALK TO THE, UH, DOUBLE ARTS COUNCIL, BUT THE INTENTION, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INTERACTIONS OF ART THROUGHOUT THERE, YOU KNOW, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BLOCK.

SO REALLY WORKING WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN RFP WORK WITH HOPEFULLY SOME LOCAL ARTISTS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND THEN THE VETERINARIANS ARE ACROSS THE STREET.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATION WITH THEM? DO THEY BOARD, UH, ANY ANIMALS THERE? DO YOU KNOW? OR? I, I COULD NOT TELL YOU OFF THE TOP.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE NOISE AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.

UH, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

GOOD.

UM, SEE, I, I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME MR. CHINOOK.

ACTUALLY, CAN YOU MIGHT STAY UP FOR A SECOND.

UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND YOUR VISION.

YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE, THE, UM, THE MAIN PARK SPACE AND THE POCKET PARK SPACES.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU KIND OF ELABORATE ON YOUR VISION FOR THE STREETSCAPE ITSELF? 'CAUSE I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS ONE OF THE, UH, SAY CHALLENGES AND BRIDGE PARK VERY NARROW SIDEWALKS AND NOT MUCH STREET ACTIVATION AS YOU, I MEAN, THERE ARE DEFINITELY PARKS, POCKET PARKS THROUGHOUT, BUT CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE STREET ACTIVATION AND YOUR VISION FOR THAT HERE? SO FOR, FOR THE MOST PART, JUST IT'S CLARITY IN FRONT OF THE COMMERCIAL STOREFRONT.

THE STREETSCAPE IS GOING TO BE THE SAME, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA HAVE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME STREET SECTION FROM CURB TO BUILDING THAT EXISTS IN A MAJORITY OF THE DISTRICT.

WHEN YOU GET TO THIS CENTRAL AREA AND REALLY OPENING UP THAT PLAZA, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET TO A SITE PLAN, BUT AS YOU GET TO WHAT WE'RE CALLING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING B, UM, THERE'S A RESPONSIVENESS ACROSS THE STREET TO THE CITY, UH, TO THE CENTRAL PARK.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS I THINK IT CREATES THIS VERY COMFORTABLE URBAN POCKET OF, OF OPEN SPACE.

NOW WHAT WE, WE DIDN'T HIT ON TOO MUCH AND I KNOW HAS BEEN A, A, A FOCUS OF THIS WONDERFUL WORD, THIS, THIS MADE UP WORD OF WOO NRF THAT DOES EXIST ACROSS THERE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND WE HAVE CLOSED OFF SOME OF THE PARALLEL SPOTS AS YOU GET TO THE CENTRAL PARK AND REALLY STARTED TO LINE THE ROAD AS WE BRING THE ROAD UP TO A CURBLESS MEDIAN TO GO TO ALLOW FOR SOME PEDESTRIAN PASSAGE BACK AND FORTH.

SO OUR HOPE AND IN ACTIVATING THIS STREETS SCAPE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN POTENTIALLY OTHER SPOTS IN THE DISTRICT, IS THAT THAT WILL BE EXPERIENCED AS ONE LARGE AREA AND REALLY SORT OF SPILL OUT A SENSE OF COMFORT AND GREEN SPACE.

THAT SAID, UM, THE PROMINENCE OF GETTING RETAIL AND RESTAURANT CLIENTELE IS, IS HURT SIGNIFICANTLY WITH LACK OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.

AND I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY A GREAT IDEA.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, BUT WHAT I GUESS I'M GETTING AT TOO IS WHEN YOU WALK DOWN THE OTHER AREAS OF BRIDGE PARK AND THE ROADS ARE CLOSED AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE, I MEAN, COVID WAS INTERESTING 'CAUSE IT REALLY, REALLY CREATED A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE DOWN THERE.

AND I WAS HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED WHEN YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME ABOUT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

YOU'VE GOT, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING THERE, BUT I'M JUST, I'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER JUST HOW WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH ACTIVATION AND, AND, AND BRINGING PEOPLE OUT AND, AND HOW WE CAN HAVE MORE SEATING AND JUST MORE COMFORT LEVEL.

AND AGAIN, I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO SAY, DOES THE LONG STORE STREET NEED TO CONNECT? LIKE COULD IT, COULD IT STOP AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE AND HAVE THAT JUST BE, YOU KNOW, OPEN SPACE? DOES IT NEED, I MEAN, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS, BUT, UH, DID YOU GUYS CONSIDER ANY OF THAT? DID YOU CONSIDER MAYBE NOT EVEN MAKING THAT CONNECTION TO TOLER? THAT'S A A GREAT QUESTION.

WE DID DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE, UH, YOU ALSO START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN INITIALLY REGARDING THE, THE MINIMAL ACCESS POINTS TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, RIGHT?

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UH, ADDITIONALLY, ONCE YOU START TO LOOK AT REFUSE, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT DELIVERIES, IT, IT JUST PUTS A LITTLE BIT OF A STRAIN ON THAT.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND TO ANSWER THE ACTIVATION QUESTION PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER OR HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BETTER, IS ON THE CENTRAL PARK, NOT ONLY ARE THERE TWO AREAS THAT ARE SLATED FOR RESTAURANT EXPERIENCES THAT DO HAVE OUTDOOR PATIOS THAT COME OUT AND CONNECT, BUT ALSO WE SEE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THE BUILDING B ACROSS THE STREET.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVATION OUTSIDE OF THE STOREFRONT.

ADDITIONAL TO THAT, ON THE, UH, WHAT IS THE, I ALWAYS DO THIS, THE SOUTH BUILDING, BUILDING A, UM, AGAIN, JOHN SHIELDS, THERE IS A LARGE AREA WHERE WE CAN GET OUTDOOR PATIO SPACES THERE.

AND THEN THE POCKET PARK BY THE HOTEL, I TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS BEFORE, UM, SITUATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOTEL IS THE HOTEL'S FOOD AND BEVERAGE.

AND THEN A THEN THERE'LL BE A ANOTHER USER THAT'LL ACTUALLY COME IN THROUGH THE HOTEL.

THOSE WILL BOTH PLAN TO HAVE SPELL OUT ACTIVITY AREAS THERE.

SO THE ONLY REAL AREA FROM A, UM, A POCKET PARK STANDPOINT THAT DOES NOT, THAT IS ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL SPACE, THAT DOESN'T HAVE REALLY PLANNED ACTIVATION FOR A COMMERCIAL USER IS THE ONE BETWEEN THE OFFICE SPACE AND BUILDING B, WHICH IS THE MORE SOUTHWESTERN AREA THAT IS MUCH MORE OF A PASSAGE PARK THAT I BELIEVE WE ARE SEEING A LITTLE BIT IN THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.

I'LL RESERVE COMMENTS FOR THERE.

UM, PHONE COURT WESTERVILLE, UH, FOUR THREE ZERO EIGHT ONE.

UM, I'M GONNA BUILD ON WHAT MR. CHINOOK WAS ASKING.

THE, THE WOOER THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING ISN'T REALLY A WOOER, IT'S A KIND OF A TABLETOP, RIGHT? BUT HAD YOU ACTUALLY CONSIDERED LIKE MAKING THE WHOLE STREET INTO A WOOER IF, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS THERE AS PART OF INFORMAL, THE INFORMAL REVIEW, BUT SOMEBODY, THERE WAS A GREAT RENDERING AND THERE WAS AN IDEA THAT THAT COULD ALL BE LIKE CURBLESS AND JUST MORE LIKE A PLAZA.

YOU CAN STILL HAVE CARS COMING IN, THEY CAN STILL PARK, BUT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN SPACE.

, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, F OR TIM WOULD LIKE TO COME UP HERE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

WE, WE HAD AT ONE POINT IN TIME, AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE, WHERE WE WENT AWAY FROM IT WAS JUST A, A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE SAFETY OF THE, THE PARALLEL PARKING AND THEN THE LITTLE BIT OF NERVOUSNESS WITH JUST THE PROGRAMMING OF SNOW AND HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU HOLD PEOPLE OFF THAT EDGE? SO IT JUST, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE DECISION WE MADE, IT MADE MORE SENSE TO REALLY RAISE UP THE TABLETOP AS YOU, AS YOU CALL IT.

I, I AGREE.

ALONG WITH, AND ALIGN IT ARCHITECTURALLY WITH THE CENTRAL PARK.

WOULD YOU SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT PLEASE? UM, FEN ONE FIVE EIGHT.

UM, I JUST WANNA RESTATE THAT, UH, WE ARE SO EXCITED TO BE ON THE PROJECT AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE BOARD, UM, REALLY PUSHING DESIGNERS PROJECTS, UH, THINK MOVING FORWARD, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

UM, SO TO ANSWER THE WARNER, UM, QUESTION, WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO THINK BIG, RIGHT? AS DESIGNERS, WE, WE DID CONSIDER LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BLOCK AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ENG ENGINEERS, CITY MOBIL MOBILITY TEAM TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

AND WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UM, PULL BACK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE, UM, MATT SAID, LIKE DELIVER LOGISTICS, UM, UM, THAT KIND OF, UH, PUSHBACK.

AND I THINK OUR INTENTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO BASICALLY FUNNEL DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE ACTIVATION AT THE HEART OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL PARK.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT, UM, LIMITED BLOCK OF CURB SECTION, YOU KIND OF LIKE FRAMING THAT ACTIVATION ZONE AT THE HEART OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN YOU KIND OF SEAMLESSLY BLEND INTO THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, CROSSING THE STREET.

AND THEN THAT KIND OF, UH, BLEEDS TO THE PARK PARK, UM, ON EITHER END.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT A HEAT MAP, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBOR, THE GRAND ON THE EAST, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE REALLY HOT, YOU KNOW, ACTIV ACTIVATION ZONE ON THE WEST.

SO, UM, I, AGAIN, I, I, THE CONCEPT'S ALL GREAT, UM, OF THIS KIND OF LIKE, UH, SPACE THAT COMES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS YOU GET UP TO THE GRAND AND MOONEY STREET ACROSS THE STREET, THEY HAVE AN OPEN, THEY, IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S THEIR OPEN SPACE.

AND I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD THOUGHT ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND EVEN LIKE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE PARKING THERE SO THAT IT FEELS LIKE THAT SPACE GOES RIGHT ACROSS MOONEY AND INTO THE GRAND HAD, HAD YOU CONSIDERED THAT AT ALL? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING, UH, IDEA.

AND THEN, I MEAN, WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY CONSIDER AND, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, PUT THAT INTO THE NEXT ROUND.

BUT WE DO, YOU KNOW, ARE VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE CONTEXT, OUR NEIGHBORS, SO, YOU KNOW, OUR DESIGN, UH, DRIVER FOR THE CENTRAL PLACE, BASICALLY,

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SO PROGRAMMATICALLY WE, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LIKE, ALMOST LIKE A SMALLER SCALE OVERLOOK ON THE EAST, YOU KNOW, SO THE SENIORS, VISITORS, UM, PATIENTS, YOU KNOW, ON THE EAST, THEY CAN IMMEDIATE WELL EASILY ACCESS THE OVERLOOK, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT BURDENING O OVERCOMING THE GREAT CHANGE.

BUT THEN WE INTENTIONALLY CARVE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, A BIGGER CHUNK OF THE SPACE AT, ON THE LOWER PLAZA, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT USER GROUPS.

YEAH, I I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I, AGAIN, MOONEY, MOONEY STREET IS KIND OF THE, IT'S KIND OF A FORGOTTEN STREET A LITTLE BIT AND THERE IS ACTIVITY HAPPENING FURTHER DOWN WITH THE DOG PARK, TOPIARY PARK, AND IT JUST, AND IT'S, IF YOU START, YOU'VE GOT YOUR LITTLE CORNER GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS NICE AND YOU'VE, THE GRAND HAS ITS OPEN SPACE.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE, CAN YOU START TO THINK ABOUT MOONEY STREET AS, AS ACTIVATING IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT AGAIN, I JUST FEEL LIKE MOONEY STREET, AS YOU DRIVE ALONG, IT IS KIND OF A MISHMASH OF THINGS AND NOT REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT.

SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO JUST ENGAGE THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

UM, I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION.

I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I'M JUST GONNA ASK IT.

THE ACCESS TO THE TRASH ROOM THAT'S IN THE PARKING GARAGE, HAD YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT TRYING TO GET IT OFF OF TALLER AND THEN YOU COULD, YOU COULD ROTATE THE, THE RETAIL SPACE AND HAVE IT FRONT ON THE LONG SHORE AND TUCK IT BEHIND THAT, BUT THERE'S A GRADE CHANGE, RIGHT? IT'S A PROBLEM THAT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE.

BUT FURTHER THAN THAT, UM, A LOT OF OUR CONCEPT, UM, AND IN FACT THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE WAIVER HAS TO DO WITH ACTIVATING TELLER.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UM, IN OUR, OUR PAST CORRESPONDENCE WITH STAFF, THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, A, A ACCEPTABLE IDEA TO ACTIVATE TELLER WOULD BE WITH, UH, WITH THAT IT'S THE TRADE OFF BETWEEN THE HUGE CURB CUT ON LONG SHORE, RIGHT? YEAH.

WITH THE GARAGE ENTRANCE IN THAT.

AND WELL, WE LOOKED AT THE DETAILING OF THAT WITH STAFF AS WELL.

AND IT EXISTS IN, I THINK THREE OTHER DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT AND, AND SORT OF THAT CENTRAL ISLAND THAT SORT OF DIVIDES THAT LITTLE DRIVEWAYS BETWEEN THAT OF THE REFUSE AND THAT OF THE, UH, THE CARS INTO THE GARAGE.

UM, DEFINITELY AN URBAN CONDITION WITHOUT A QUESTION.

YOU, YOU SEE IT IN A LOT OF THOSE, THOSE SITUATIONS.

YEP.

AND EXIST TODAY.

BUT, UM, TALLER WOULD BE THE GREAT ALONE, I FRANKLY YOU START TO LOOK AT THE SLOPE OF THOSE PARALLEL SPACES.

AND I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HARD TIME KEEPING THEIR CAR DOOR OPEN WHEN THEY TRY TO GET OUT OF IT.

SO I MEAN THAT, IF THAT GIVES YOU A FEEL FOR THAT, THE GRADE CHANGE THERE, IT'S OVER 5%, THEY'RE IN TROUBLE.

IT IS FOR SURE.

UM, AND THEN I WANT TO SWITCH TO THE RESIDENTIAL A BUILDING.

THAT THAT THREE STORY BRICK IS ACTUALLY WHAT ALSO COMES OUT INTO THE, UH, LONG SHORE FACADE AS IT HITS THAT.

SAME KIND OF QUESTION.

YOU'VE GOT THE TRA THE TRASH ACCESS OFF OF LONG SHORE, AND I KNOW THAT'S AT THE GROUND, GROUND LEVEL AND THE, AND THE MOONEY ENTRANCE WOULD BE UP A LEVEL AND YOU LOOKED AT MOVING IT UP THERE AND I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN ELEVATOR NO MATTER WHAT FOR IT.

UH, THAT'S VERY TRUE.

WHAT WE, THE REASON FOR THE LOCATION THERE REALLY WAS DRIVEN BY THE LARGER DENSITY OF REFUSE AND TRASH.

SO YES, YOU HAVE YOUR USERS THERE, BUT IT IS A 21 FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF AREAS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TRASH TRUCKS GOING INTO.

SO WE HAVE THOSE TWO AREAS.

SO ANYBODY OFF LONG SHORE IS ACTUALLY, UM, GETTING THEIR TRASH INTO A, INTO A CONTAINER AND IN AN OFF AND ROLLING IT OVER TO THOSE AREAS.

SO WE TRIED TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF, UH, TRASH ROOMS IN GENERAL, AND ONCE YOU START TO LOOK AT WHERE ALL THE TRASH IS COMING FROM, FROM THE OFFICE BUILDING, AND THEN IF YOU SPLIT BUILDING B IN HALF EVEN, AND THEY'RE TAKING IT ACROSS THE STREET, OTHERWISE THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT ACROSS THE STREET UP AND OVER, OR WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ACCESS OFF LONGSHORE FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING OR THE BUILDING B.

SO, GOT IT.

AND STRUGGLING WITH ALL THAT AND TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE LOCATIONS WE ENDED UP WITH TWO VERSUS WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN THREE OR FOUR.

IT'S A CHALLENGE.

IT'S AN URBAN AREA.

YEAH, IT IS FOR SURE.

, RODDY, CAN YOU BRING UP THE RENDERINGS OF, OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDING A, UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE RIGHT THERE.

PERFECT.

SO ON THE LOWER IMAGE OF THE OUTDOOR POOL SPACE ON BOTH SIDES, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME BIG CHUNKS OF KIND OF LIKE JUST BLANK WALL.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS LIKE THAT.

IS THERE SOMETHING BEHIND THOSE THAT'S PREVENTING THAT TO BE WINDOWS OR TRANSPARENT? I'M STARING AT EVERYTHING.

IT OCCURS ON BOTH SIDES, SO I'M STARING AT IT WITH A FOOLISH GRIN, WANTING TO SAY THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST THE, THE RENDERING PERSPECTIVE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.

THOSE SHOULD HAVE, I THINK, SINGLE LAYER OF WINDOWS IN THERE THAT 'CAUSE THE DUAL WINDOWS SHOULD BE IN THE LIVING SPACE, AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER SET IN BETWEEN THERE THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK INTO.

BUT THE, THE INTENT IS

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SO THE PURPOSE IS TO WRAP THAT INTO THE CORRIDOR SO THAT REALLY FROM A PEDESTRIAN SCENE AND ANYWHERE OTHER THAN FRANKLY FOUR STORIES UP IN THE OFFICE, YOU'RE GONNA PERCEIVE THAT THE BRICK GOES ALL THE WAY BACK THERE.

UM, OKAY.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A VIEW CORRIDOR THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE INTO THERE FROM RIVERSIDE OR ANY, FROM ANY OTHER DIRECTION, FRANKLY.

SO, BUT THAT SHOULD HAVE FENESTRATIONS IN IT.

IT IS, IT IS MULTIFAMILY, SO IT SHOULD HAVE SOME, YEAH, THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT'S A RENDERING ISSUE.

I DIDN'T CHECK IT WITH A FLOOR PLAN, SO I DIDN'T NO, NO, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

VERY FAIR.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS, HAS PICKED UP A LOT OF MY COMMENTS FOR FURTHER, SO I'M, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OTHER, EXCEPT I JUST WANNA REINFORCE THE HOTEL, THE CORNER ON TOLER.

I KNOW THAT'S IN THEIR, THE COMMENTS ABOUT REINFORCING THAT BACK TO MY COMMENTS ON THE PREVIOUS PROJECT ABOUT IT BEING A GATEWAY.

UM, I THINK COMING DOWN, UM, RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND THAT CORNER IS JUST SO KEY TO WELCOMING PEOPLE TO THIS AREA.

AND I, I THINK THAT CORNER, IT, IT'S GOTTA BE MORE THAN JUST SIGNAGE.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO.

I'M SURE A CLEVER ARCHITECT CAN FIGURE OUT SOME REALLY COOL STUFF TO DO THERE, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT LANDSCAPE, BUT IT'S, IT MIGHT BE A COMBINATION, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST ARCHITECTURALLY, IS THERE, IS THERE SOME WAY TO, TO PLAY WITH THAT AND TO CREATE MORE GLASS OR, OR SOMETHING THAT THAT'S LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BEACON AS YOU KIND OF ARRIVE INTO THIS AREA.

CHRIS, YOU HAVE INTEREST IN TALKING ABOUT THAT CORNER AT ALL, OR? SURE, YEAH, I THINK THERE, THERE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THAT BY CHRIS AND YOU, IF YOU TALK ABOUT A TALENTED ARCHITECT, YOU GOT ONE RIGHT HERE, SO MM-HMM .

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

, UM, CHRIS MYERS, MYERS AND ASSOCIATES.

UM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

IT IS THE KIND OF GATEWAY IN THIS CASE NOW GOING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.

WHAT WHAT WE ALSO OBSERVE IS, IS HOW YOU SEE IT FROM TWO 70, UM, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, UH, THE, THE TREE SCAPE IN THAT PART OF DUBLIN REALLY OPENS UP AND YOU HAVE A, AN ELEVATED PERSPECTIVE.

SO, UM, PROGRAMMATICALLY IN THE BUILDING, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FITNESS SPACE, THERE'S A LITTLE KINDA CAFE AREA OFF OF THE, UH, THE LOBBY.

SO GROUND LEVEL WE CAN GET REALLY KIND OF CREATIVE BECAUSE IT'S A, AN INTERIOR SPACE.

WE HAVE GUEST ROOMS UP ABOVE.

UM, THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF MANIPULATING THOSE GUEST ROOMS IS, IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT CAN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP IN THE, UH, IN THE EFFORT.

WE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET A EXAMPLE OF TWO OF OUR OTHER RECENT, UH, HOTELS THAT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IN HOTELS YOU RUN INTO A LOT OF BLANK WALL CONDITIONS BECAUSE OF HOW GUEST ROOM ORIENTATIONS ARE, OR STAIR TOWERS MIGHT BE.

AND THE, THE TWO EXAMPLES, I'M NOT SURE OF THE PAGE ONE IS A HOTEL WE JUST OPENED DOWN IN CINCINNATI, UM, AND IT HAS A, A SIX STORY ART PIECE MURAL, AND THEN THE OTHER IS THE GRADUATE HOTEL HERE IN TOWN IN, IN THE SHORT NORTH.

IT HAS NINE STORY MURALS, UM, UP AND DOWN.

AND I, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC SOLUTION FOR REALLY CREATING A CUSTOM APPLICATION OF A, OF AN ART PIECE THAT IS NOT ONLY INDICATIVE OF THE BRAND OF THAT HOTEL, BUT ALSO, UM, THE DISTRICT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THIS IS A, A HILTON, UH, TEMPO HOTEL, WHICH IS A NEWER BRAND, UH, BUT IT'S VERY BOUTIQUE STYLE.

IT'S VERY CUSTOM IN NOT ONLY ARCHITECTURE, BUT INTERIOR DESIGN.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE NOT REALLY LIKE SOME PROTOTYPICAL HOTEL THAT YOU'LL SEE EVERYWHERE ELSE.

IT HAS THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN IDENTITY.

WE THINK THAT IDENTITY OF THE HOTEL COULD EXEMPLIFY BRIDGE NORTH, BUT ALSO THAT VISIBILITY AT SCALE THAT YOU WOULD SEE EVEN FROM THE, FROM THE HIGHWAY.

SO PAGE 10 BY THE WAY.

OF THE PACKET.

AND YOU KNOW, I'D ACTUALLY, THE, IS IT THE SOLAR, SOLAR, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THE WAY THAT, THAT POKES OUT AND CREATES SOME, I DON'T KNOW IF, AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT I THINK.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY STANDING UP AT 1105 .

AND MY, MY ANSWER IS NOT JUST PAINT SOMETHING ON THE WALL.

IT'S THERE, THERE'S TRANSPARENCY AND FORM AND LIGHTING AND YEAH.

ALL THE CLEVER ARCHITECT THINGS.

SO I, I I THINK THAT WHOLE PIECE IS COVERED IN THE, IN THE PART OF THE REVIEW GOING FORWARD.

SO YEAH, I SUPPORT THAT.

SO LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

SO I AM GOING TO NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PROJECT?

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SO , WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, SIR? ? SO I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND FOR THE MIGUEL GONZALEZ? MORNING, NOLAN, UH, 25 0 1 BRISTOL ROAD, AND THE COMMENT ON THE ARIS CRAFT, UM, I WANNA CLARIFY WHETHER THAT'S TO BE AS USED ON THE WHOLE WALL OR JUST AT GRADE.

TYPICALLY WE WOULD SUGGEST, UH, A DARE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE USED SOUTH, WHICH IS THE DOMETIC, UH, LIMESTONE, WHICH IS MEANT FOR THAT APPLICATION.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, SO, SO I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY, UNDERSTAND, COMMENT, BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY IT READS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY IT WAS DESCRIBED.

PLEASE, PLEASE DELIBERATE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT, .

SO IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S NONE OTHER, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, AND WE WILL NOW GO ANY COMMISSION ALREADY TO MOVE FORWARD.

DAN, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? OH, OKAY.

SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF 36 WAIVERS.

DO DELIBERATION.

PARDON ME? I JUST, DID YOU WANT I HAD ONE, I HAD ONE QUICK COMMENT.

SO, OH, SORRY.

A LITTLE BIT OF DELIBERATION.

SO, YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

I THOUGHT WE JUST DELIBERATED, BUT MAYBE WE DO.

WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS.

, I, I GET, I JUST WANNA SAY WE HAVE TO DELIBERATE.

YES, THANK YOU.

YEAH, IT'S GETTING LATE.

I WILL GO, I WILL QUICKLY DELIBERATE THE MY ONE COMMENT ON THIS, AGAIN, I THINK YOU'RE DEFINITELY HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURE, I LOVE, LOVE THE PARKS.

THE PARKS.

AND LIKE I ALLUDED TO THE, THE, THE STREETSCAPE AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING FOR, WE SAID THIS LAST TIME, WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR SOMETHING UNIQUE, SPECIAL, DIFFERENT, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE.

UM, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WHEN WE COME BACK, I WOULD PUSH IT FURTHER.

I THINK, I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT THINGS LIKE THE, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE, THESE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE ENTRY, ENTRY PORTALS AND, AND HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE DRAWING PEOPLE HERE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE MAKING THAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT THIS AREA TO DRAW PEOPLE FROM SOUTH UP HERE? I, I GUESS I WOULD JUST, WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS EVEN TAKE IT FURTHER.

UM, 'CAUSE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY GREAT THINGS, BUT, UH, JUST, JUST MAKING THIS SPECIAL, MAKING THIS DIFFERENT, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS SPACE.

SO, UH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT TAKEN A, A FEW, FEW STEPS FURTHER, A LITTLE MORE INNOVATIVE.

I APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMISSION FOR JUMPING AHEAD.

I NO, YOU'RE FINE.

I JUST, I WASN'T TRYING TO RUSH THIS.

I WAS JUST LIKE, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF INFORMATION TODAY.

I KEEP WANNA KEEP US HERE LONGER.

SO IT WAS MY GOAL.

THIS IS HARDER.

PLEASE.

UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.

I THINK DEFINITELY EXACTLY WHAT, UM, UH, THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK IT'S, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THAT AND IT'S A GOOD MIS MIX OF USE.

THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS DON'T FORGET MOONEY.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MR. GARVIN.

JUST GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FOR ATTENTIONAL OR ADDITIONAL ATTENTION TO THE GATEWAY CORNER AS WE CALLED IT.

YEAH, I, I'M INCREDIBLY, UM, APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR, OF THE, THE PROPOSAL AND I THINK THERE'S A, JUST SO MANY GREAT ASPECTS TO IT.

I THINK BOTH ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPE, IT'S REALLY COME TOGETHER REALLY NICELY.

I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE'VE SEEN IT.

SO AGAIN, I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION.

OKAY, NOW, OKAY, NOW LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH A, UM, I'M GONNA, I NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF 36 WAIVERS.

AND NOW I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING EIGHT CONDITIONS AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE.

SO MOVED.

SECOND MS. HARDER? YES.

MR. CHINOOK? YES.

MR. WE? YES.

MR. GARVIN? YES.

AND FINALLY I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO CONDITIONS.

THANKS FOR HANGING IN WITH US TONIGHT AND

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HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN SOON.

, WE MAKING THERE ? WE'RE NOT DONE YET.

YES, WE HAVE.

SO, MR. ROUSH, ARE THERE ANY COMMUNICATIONS AND MR. ALEXANDER'S COMING BACK? WE'LL JUST GIVE HIM ONE SECOND.

OH, THANK YOU.

IF, IF YOU ALL COULD MOVE OUT INTO THE LOBBY AS WE KIND OF, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT LEFT HERE, BUT WE DO NEED TO WRAP THIS UP.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE AS QUIET AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN HAVE OUR FINAL DISCUSSIONS.

NOW AT THE POINT OF OUR EVENING TO DISCUSS COMMUNICATIONS AND MS. RAUCH IS GONNA, I'LL BE SUPER BRIEF.

HE FOUND ALL THE SNACK.

NO, WE, WE DIDN'T.

I WAS, I THOUGHT I KIND OF LIKE STARTED TO AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT I'D ALREADY DONE IT.

NO, YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE'RE ALMOST SKIPPING IT.

OKAY, MR. ALEXANDER, WE ARE

[COMMUNICATIONS]

SO OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, IS DECEMBER 11TH, AND THEN WE WILL BE THIS WEEK, UM, SENDING OUT DATES FOR NEXT YEAR SO YOU CAN HAVE A LOOK AT THEM AND IF ANYTHING JUMPS OUT AT YOU FOR US TO CONSIDER, BUT THE GOAL OF ADOPTING THOSE AT THAT DECEMBER MEETING.

SO WE'LL SEND THEM OUT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT UM, JUST GIVE US ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT STUFF.

DOES THAT OPEN UP JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, WHICH ARE ALREADY SET OR IS IT, I MEAN, WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THOSE, BUT THIS WOULD BE SORT OF REAFFIRMING THAT.