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[Case #25-027AFDP-CU]
CASE THIS EVENING, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.THAT IS CASE 25 DASH 27 AFT PCU.
IT'S THE NORTHWEST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONAL USE.
DOES ANYONE FROM THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL THIS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE NORTHWEST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH APPLICATION.
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[Case #25-055FDP, Case #25-056PP, Case #25-057FP & Case #25-066CU ]
WE ARE MOVING TO CASES PLURAL.CASE 25 DASH 0 55 FT P 25 0 56 PP 25 0 57 FP AND 25 0 66 CU.
ALL CONCERNING BRIDGE PARK BLOCK J, FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PRELIMINARY PLAT, FINAL PLAT AND CONDITIONAL USE BRIEF.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAN TO ALLOW A NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND A REQUEST
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FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CO OF PARK AND RIDE LOCATED IN A NEW PARKING STRUCTURE.THE APPROXIMATELY FIVE AND A THIRD ACRE SITE IS ZONED B-S-D-S-R-N BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, SCIOTO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF BRIDGE PARK AVENUE AND DALE DRIVE.
WITH THAT, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT FORWARD.
AND AS ALWAYS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
RUSSELL HUNTER, 66 40 RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
UH, I, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU BOTH TO JENNY AND HER TEAM AND ALL OF YOU, UM, FOR WORKING WITH US ON A REALLY, UH, A QUICK TIMELINE ON THIS ONE.
AND I THINK THAT I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN THEY FIRST TOLD ME ABOUT THE CENOVUS LEASE AND HOW WE WERE GONNA GET THROUGH THIS, MY EYES GOT REALLY BIG.
UM, BUT HERE WE ARE AND I'M, I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE PROCESS CAN, CAN SEEM, UH, CAN SEEM LABORIOUS AT TIMES.
AND YET WHAT YOU FIND THROUGH IT IS THOSE AHA MOMENTS, UM, THAT YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T SEE WHEN YOU'RE KIND OF IN THE THICK OF DESIGN.
AND, AND WE'VE HAD A FEW OF THOSE.
AND THE DESIGN TEAM, THE ARMY THAT I ALWAYS BRING WITH ME, UM, THEY'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO TO TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE.
THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT, THAT I WANTED TO MENTION.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT I THINK, TO BRIDGE PARK AND THE COMMUNITY THAT WE BUILT.
UM, I NEVER WOULD'VE IMAGINED THAT THE WORD WOO EARTH WASN'T MADE UP.
UM, AND YET I FOUND OUT IT ACTUALLY IS A REAL THING.
UM, AND WE'VE HAD SO MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GREEN STREET.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES BRIDGE PARK REALLY SPECIAL IS THE ACTIVATIONS.
UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE WAY THAT WE, I JUST LEFT TONIGHT.
THERE WAS A DJ IN ONE OF THE POCKET PARKS AND KIDS PLAYING IN, IN, UH, IN, IN AROUND THE, THE BOULDERS.
AND I'M, IT'S, IT, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE DYNAMIC EXPERIENCE.
UM, THIS SPACE HAS A REALLY, REALLY NEAT POTENTIAL TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T QUITE HAVE YET IN THAT IT'S GOT ENOUGH HARDSCAPE THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR EVENTS WITHOUT FEELING LIKE IT'S LONG SHORE AVENUE BECAUSE IT'S QUIETER.
AND IN TALKING WITH OUR EVENTS TEAM IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INCREDIBLY EXCITED ABOUT.
WHAT ITS POTENTIAL COULD BE, UM, FOR SOMETHING JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, ANOTHER AHA MOMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT TERMINAL VISTAS.
UM, AND WE, WE STUDIED THE, THE CONDOMINIUM BUILDING FOR HOW WE COULD REMA THAT.
AND THEN WE QUICKLY REALIZED, WAIT A MINUTE, THE TERMINAL VISTA, THE PLACE WHERE WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO KIND OF PUT THE, THE, THE FLAG IN THE SAND AND SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS THE THING IS, WELL, IT'S THE, THE TOWER ON THE SIDE OF THE PARKING GARAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE RESTAURANT TOURS, ANY, UH, ANY FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING THE CONDOS, ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO THE OFFICE BUILDING, THAT'S THEIR BEACON.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, NOT ONLY IS THE OPEN SPACE SORT OF OBLIQUELY LOOKING AT IT, BUT GREEN STREET AS YOU MAKE YOUR WAY SOUTH, IS POINTING DIRECTLY AT IT.
UM, AND SO IN THAT WAY, WE KIND OF THOUGHT, OH, WE HAVEN'T PAID ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THIS.
WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THIS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE, THE, THE WAY THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED AND, AND ADVANCED THE DESIGN OF THAT BUILDING.
SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO BRING UP THE DESIGN TEAM.
UH, WE'LL START WITH JEFF, I BELIEVE, UH, WHO'S M WITH MKSK LEADING OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGN.
UH, JEFFREY PEZ, PRINCIPAL WITH MKSK 4 6 2 SOUTH LUDLOW ALLEY.
UH, I THINK SINCE YOU, WE WERE HERE RECENTLY, MAYBE WE'LL HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
UH, RUSS DID A GREAT JOB OF, UM, GIVING YOU SOME OF THE BIG PICTURE TAKEAWAYS FROM THE PAST, UM, FEW WEEKS.
BUT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF OUR MASTER PLAN AND SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE SITE.
UM, WHAT YOU SEE, UM, AT THE HEART OF THE PLAN RIGHT IN THE CENTER IS OUR, OUR COMMON SPACE.
AND JUST A FEW KIND OF TIDBITS OR UPDATES FOR YOU ABOUT THAT.
UM, THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION OF WHAT ONCE WAS, UH, A WATERWAY.
AND, UM, IN THAT WAY WE WANTED TO, UM, PAY A LITTLE BIT OF HOMAGE TO ITS NATURAL HISTORY.
UM, WE'RE NOT, UM, SUGGESTING THAT WE'LL BE A STREAM OR A POND OR A BODY OF WATER.
UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE A MORE NATURAL CHARACTER IN NATURE.
IT IS SLOPING DOWN, UM, THE SITE FROM EAST TO WEST.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME, UM, LOOSER, MORE NATURAL, MORE PARK-LIKE, UH, MORE EDGE OF WOODS LIKE EXPERIENCES THERE, EXPERIENCES THERE THAT WE HOPE, UM, REALLY COME TO LIFE AND CREATE A BIT OF AN IMMERSIVE ENVIRONMENT THERE.
DIFFERENT THAN YOU MIGHT GET, YOU KNOW, ALONG LONG SHORE OR SOME SUCH THING.
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UM, INSIDE, UM, BRIDGE PARK ITSELF.SO ON THE FURTHEST WEST END OF THAT OPEN SPACE IS THE LOWEST, UM, UM, PART OF THAT OPEN SPACE.
UM, THAT'S THE MORE NATURAL, UM, COMPONENT OF IT THAT'S FILLED WITH MEADOW GRASS.
IT'S GOT A SLIGHT, UM, UM, BIT OF UNDULATION IN THE GRADING.
IT WON'T FEEL LIKE AN ENGINEERED, UM, RETENTION BASIN.
AND THE EASTWARD WHERE THE OPEN SPACE LABEL IS, THAT'S A MORE, UM, A SLIGHTLY MORE, UM, MANICURED VERSION OF THAT NATURAL OPEN SPACE.
IT DOES HAVE MOAN LAWN, BUT IT'S SORT OF FRAMED BY SOME NATURAL LANDSCAPE.
THERE'S SORT OF TWO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ACTIVATORS OR AMENITIES, UH, WITHIN THAT OPEN SPACE THAT ARE WORTH NOTING.
UM, RIGHT THROUGH THE CENTER, CUTS ACROSS A LITTLE BRIDGE, WHICH IS REALLY JUST ABOUT SORT OF BEING A PART OF THAT NATURAL SPACE.
YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GRADE CHANGE, UM, AND AS YOU CROSS THAT SMALL BRIDGE.
AND THEN FURTHER EAST, UM, ALONG THE, UM, GREEN STREET, THERE IS, UM, JUST A LITTLE WOODEN, UM, DECK COMPONENT FOR, UM, SPENDING TIME OUTSIDE SOCIAL SPACE, UM, ET CETERA.
ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT WORTH MENTIONING IN THAT OPEN SPACE IS THAT WE'RE RELOCATING, UM, ABOUT 10, UM, SYCAMORE TREES FROM THE EXISTING SITE JUST TO THE SOUTH.
THOSE TREES ARE PLUS OR MINUS EIGHT INCHES IN CALIPER.
THAT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE, THAT'S GONNA FEEL BIG.
IT'S GONNA MAKE THIS SPACE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOT SOME AGE TO IT AND NOT LIKE A BRAND NEW, UM, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT HIGHLIGHT.
UM, AND WILL ANCHOR THIS HALF ACRE GREEN SPACE REALLY WELL, RIGHT FROM JUMP.
UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE GREEN STREET MAYBE ON THE NEXT SLIDE IF YOU COULD FORWARD FOR ME.
SO, UM, WHAT YOU SEE HERE, UH, THAT WAS TWO SLIDES.
THIS IS SORT OF LOOKING, UM, DOWN OVER THE STREET.
AND THE IDEA OF THIS STREET IS REALLY TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR DELIVERY, FOR GARAGE ACCESS, FOR, UM, RIDE SHARE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ENCOURAGE LOTS OF TRAFFIC THERE, AND FRANKLY, THIS STREET DOESN'T REALLY LEAD YOU TO ANY IN PARTICULAR DESTINATION, BUT FOR THE GARAGE.
SO AUTOMOBILE TRAVEL HERE IS GENERALLY GONNA BE CASUALLY DISCOURAGED.
WE REALLY WANTED THIS TO BE A GREAT PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A REALLY LOOSE, UH, ASSEMBLAGE OF LANDSCAPE ISLANDS, LARGE TREES, SOME FURNISHINGS LIKE LIGHTING AND BENCHES AND BOULDERS.
AND, UM, THIS IS A CURBLESS STREET, IN FACT, UM, RUSS WAS ALLUDING TO THAT.
UM, WHAT DEFINES THIS STREET AND WHAT YOU'LL PICK UP FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DRIVER IS THE EDGE LINE OF THE CURB AND THE BOULDERS WORKING TOGETHER IN PERSPECTIVE TO DEFINE THAT CURB LINE.
SO, UM, THIS IS A STANDARD WITH STREET.
IT DOES ALL THE THINGS THE STREET NEEDS TO DO.
IT'LL DRAIN, IT'LL BE SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
IT'LL JUST HAVE A CURB MADE OF LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AND BOULDERS INSTEAD OF A TRADITIONAL CONCRETE STREET CURB.
UM, THE NEXT IMAGE IS JUST A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THAT.
AND YOU CAN IMAGINE IF WE TWISTED THE CAMERA A LITTLE BIT, YOU'D SEE THAT LINE OF, UM, LARGE BOULDERS AND, AND, UH, LANDSCAPE ISLAND DEFINING THAT AREA FOR CARS, FOR PEDESTRIANS.
YOU CAN SEE BENCHES, LOTS OF LANDSCAPE, A LITTLE BIT OF MOUNDING HERE AND THERE.
AND ALSO AS YOU LOOK PLAN LEFT OR IMAGE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT VIEW DOWN INTO OUR PRIMARY OPEN SPACE CORRIDOR AND SOME OF THE SOCIAL AMENITIES AND SOCIAL SPACE, UM, PROVIDED THERE.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, UH, BACK TO THE SORT OF PRIMARY OPEN SPACE.
AND AGAIN, UM, BACK TO WHAT RUSS WAS SAYING, THIS IS A VIEW ALONG THAT, UM, NORTHERN BUILDING ALONG THE SIDEWALK, UM, LOOKING EASTWARD TOWARDS THAT PARKING GARAGE TOWER AND WITH A VIEW OF THE OPEN SPACE AND UM, UM, UH, SORT OF MEADOW GRASS AREA DOWN TO THE RIGHT.
SO YOU KNOW HOW THESE THINGS GO.
THIS IS AN ARCHITECTURAL COMPUTER RENDERING, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY GET YOU TO THAT SORT OF, UM, EPHEMERAL FEEL THAT YOU'LL GET WITH THE MEADOW GRASS BLOWING IN THE WINDS AND THE SORT OF NATURAL QUALITY.
BUT THIS DOES GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE, THE GRADING AND THE SCATTERING OF BOULDERS AND LANDSCAPE AND PLANT MATERIAL, UH, WITHIN, HI, I'M DAN TE WITH, UH, MA DESIGN 2251 STARLEAF LANE.
AND I'M JUST GONNA SPEND A FEW MINUTES GOING OVER THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE SINCE THE LAST MEETING ON THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE, UH, GARAGE.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA FLIP TO THE FIRST SLIDE HERE.
SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO NOTICE, I THINK WAS A CONTENTION POINT LAST TIME IS THE MATERIAL.
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PRESSURE LAMINATE MATERIAL FROM THE OFFICE BUILDING, AND WE'VE GONE TO A CM METAL PANEL.UM, AND WE HAVE THE SAMPLE BOARDS HERE IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM.
BUT WE HAVE TWO COLORS OF PANEL ON THE NORTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE VIEW ON THE SCREEN.
UM, IT'S MORE OF A LIGHT COPPER COLOR.
UM, PREVIOUSLY AGAIN, WE HAD A BLUE COLOR, IF YOU REMEMBER, ON THE NORTH ELEVATION.
SO THAT WAS A, A CHANGE WE MADE TO HELP, UM, THE BUILDING FEEL MORE CONTINUOUS ALL THE WAY AROUND.
SO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING IN THE WEST, THERE'S A DARKER KIND OF COPPER COLOR.
UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE NORTH ELEVATION HERE.
AND I'LL MOVE TO THE, TO THE WEST ELEVATION.
SO AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, AS THE REST WAS SAYING, UH, AGAIN, CAN WE HAVE A MOMENT HERE ON THE CORNER? SO THE MORE WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AND AS STAFF'S SUGGESTION, AS PEOPLE COME DOWN DALE DRIVE, CAN WE DO SOMETHING ON THE CORNER AND REALLY POP THIS? SO, UM, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS MORE LIGHT COLORED BRICK ALONG THE WHOLE SOUTH ELEVATION, AND WE'VE MADE THAT ELEVATION MORE OF THE CHARCOAL BRICK AND LEFT THE GRAY BRICK ON THE CORNER WITH A POP-OUT FRAME AROUND THAT, UM, ELEMENT.
UM, AND IT'S ABOUT A FOOT OUT IN FRONT OF THE REST OF THE ELEVATION.
AND THEN AS YOU MOVE TOWARDS THE, UM, ALONG THE SOUTH ELEVATION, UH, AGAIN, FROM THE LAST COMMENTS, UM, WE WENT AWAY FROM THE HORIZONTALITY OF THAT ELEVATION AND WENT TO A VERTICAL BAY ON THE STRUCTURAL BAYS AND REALLY EMPHASIZED THAT, UM, BOTH IN PLAIN AND IN THE PARAPET.
UH, SO THE OTHER THING I'LL MENTION IS WE'RE PLAYING AROUND WITH THESE LIGHTS ON, UM, BOTH OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A DUST SHOT WHERE ON THE CORNER WE HAVE ONE LIGHT FIXTURE, AND THEN AGAIN, AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THAT, IT'S A DIFFERENT LIGHT FIXTURE AND IT'S REALLY TO MAKE THAT, UH, AGAIN, THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE OF THE GREEN SPACE, UM, MORE UNIQUE, UM, AND REALLY MAKE THAT ELEVATION POP.
SO THIS IS THE, UH, SOUTHEAST CORNER.
AGAIN, YOU CAN GET A BETTER SENSE OF ALONG THE WHOLE ELEVATION HERE.
IT'S MORE OF A CHARCOAL BRICK.
AND THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WILL SEE AGAIN WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE GARAGE, GOING TOWARDS THE MAIN ENTRY OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST ANOTHER, JUST TO FINISH ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING.
IT SHOWS THE COPPER COLOR ON THE PANELS AGAIN.
UM, AND WE FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT AFTER WE GOT ALL THESE CHANGES MADE IN THE OFFICE BUILDING, HOW, UM, IT JUST MADE THE WHOLE COMPOSITION FIT TOGETHER A LOT BETTER.
SO ALL THE EVERYONE'S SUGGESTIONS WERE REALLY APPRECIATED.
SO THAT'S A QUICK OVERVIEW ON THE OFFICE, AND NOW I'LL MOVE TO THE GARAGE.
SO, LIKE RUSS SAID, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THIS TERMINAL VISTA AT THE END OF THE GREEN SPACE.
SO, UM, THE ELEMENT WE WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO IS THE, THE STAIR TOWER.
SO WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER FRAME OF CHARCOAL METAL PANEL, AND THEN WE'VE ADDED A SERIES OF SHADING FINS IN FRONT OF THE SHADE, THE, UH, FROSTED GLASS.
SO WE WANTED TO POP DURING THE DAY AS WELL AS THE NIGHTTIME.
SO THERE WILL BE ACCENT LIGHTING, UM, ON THIS ELEMENT AS WELL.
HERE'S, UM, A BETTER DETAIL SHOT ON THE RIGHT.
IT SHOWS, UM, A SUGGESTION OF BLUE LIGHT BEHIND IT.
AND THEN ON THE LEFT IS MORE OF A DETAIL.
SO, UM, THE FINS STICK OUT ABOUT A FOOT METAL AND THEY'RE MADE OF, UH, JUST METAL ALUMINUM.
AND WE'LL HAVE THREE COLORS OF FINS, AND THE COLORS, AGAIN, WILL BLEND IN WITH THE COLORS OF THE, UM, OFFICE PALETTE.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES WE MADE WERE ON THE, UM, CORNERS THAT WERE ALL EXPOSED CONCRETE.
WE'VE ADDED A METAL WRAP TO THE VERTICAL COLUMN AND WE'VE CONTINUED THIS CAST STONE LINES AT THE FLOOR LINES TO HELP BLEND THESE CORNERS IN TO THE, UM, VOCABULARY OF THE GARAGE.
NOW ONE THING WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH IS THE OPEN AIRS, UM, REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GARAGE.
AND I'LL JUST POP TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THAT'S VERY TIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE RESTRICTED ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ON THE SOUTH BECAUSE OF THE SCRIM.
SO, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER STRONG REASON WHY WE LEFT THE CORNERS OPEN.
UM, AND, UH, THE OTHER THING IS WE WERE ASKED TO STUDY HOW CAN WE INCREASE THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AT THE STREET LEVEL? SO IT'S TOUGH TO FILL THOSE OPENINGS IN, SO WE ELECTED TO DO IT THROUGH LANDSCAPE AND PULL THAT LANDSCAPING AWAY FROM THE ELEVATIONS TO STILL ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF SCREENING THE CAR.
SO, UM, ALL THE CHANGES WERE REALLY GOOD AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S PRETTY PLEASED.
SO WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THE KIND OF THE FINAL PRODUCT.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MATT AND HE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
I'M, UH, MATT LIDLE WITH SULLIVAN BROOKE ARCHITECTS, EIGHT SOUTH
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GRANT AVENUE, COLUMBUS, OHIO.SO IT'S, UH, GOOD TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
AND I JUST WANNA GO THROUGH THE, JUST A FEW CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, UH, FROM LAST TIME WE WERE HERE.
UH, WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE ADDED BACK INTO THE PROJECT IS THE, UH, UH, GROUND FLOOR ENTRIES FOR THE THREE UNITS, UH, ALONG BRIDGE PARK AVENUE.
SO THOSE WILL FUNCTION IN MUCH THE SAME WAY AS THE SIX UNITS ALONG, UH, THE STREET TO, UH, THE EAST THERE ALONG WENDY'S HEADQUARTERS.
ANOTHER CHANGE I WANNA HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT, UM, ARE THE, UM, THE CLADDING MATERIAL FOR THE, UH, SURROUNDS ON THE BALCONIES AT THE CORNERS AND THE ENDS.
UM, THE LEASING, UH, AND, UH, FOR, UH, RETAIL AGENTS FOR CRAWFORD HORN, UH, DIDN'T QUITE RESONATE WITH THE CRANBERRY COLOR, SO, UM, WE WENT WITH A MORE NEUTRAL, JUST A BLACK.
AND SO THAT KIND OF BLENDS IN WITH THE OTHER BLACK MATERIALS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE INTRODUCING THE, UH, THE METAL, UM, GUARDRAILS FOR THE BALCONIES AND THE WINDOWS.
SO, UM, THAT'S GIVING A LITTLE MORE HARMONIOUS LOOK TO THE DESIGN.
NOW THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING, UH, FROM THE NORTH EAST DOWN BRIDGE PARK AVENUE, AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTING THE CHANGE FOR THE, UH, BALCONY ON THE CORNERS THERE AGAIN.
AND THERE'S ALSO, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE, UH, STEPS LEADING UP TO THE ECADE, UH, UNITS ALONG BRIDGE PARK AVENUE AS WELL.
AGAIN, WE'RE JUST, UM, UTILIZING A NICE PALLET OF, UH, MASONRY, DARK MASONRY AND LIGHT MASONRY, AGAIN, TO COMPLIMENT THE OTHER MASONRY WITH, WITH THE GARAGE AND THE OFFICE BUILDING AND UTILIZING A, UH, INTERLOCKING METAL PANEL SYSTEM THAT, UM, ALSO DOESN'T HEMM THE BUILDING IN, IN THAT WE KNOW THE BUILDING'S GONNA MOVE.
SO IT'S GONNA ALLOW THE BUILDING TO SHRINK AND A FINAL SHOT OF THE COURTYARD.
I THINK IT'S COME A LONG WAY AND, UH, WE APPRECIATED YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, UH, SUGGESTIONS AND YOUR FEEDBACK.
UM, SO THIS, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS A MULTIPLE, UM, APPLICATIONS AND FROM A REVIEW PROCESS STANDPOINT, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, HAS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS ALL THESE FINAL DETAILS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS GONE THROUGH.
AND I WILL HIGHLIGHT, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL ONES AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE.
AND THEN THERE IS A FINAL PLAT AND A PRELIMINARY PLAT WHERE YOU ALL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL AND THAT WOULD BE FORWARDED ON TO THEM, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO AGAIN, THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN'S, REALLY ALL THESE FINAL DETAILS AND WAIVERS AND THINGS, UM, IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE ALL FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AND WHERE WE ARE.
UM, ULTIMATELY THE AREA SHOWN WITHIN THE YELLOW BOUNDARY, UM, IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY, A FUTURE PHASE TWO WILL HAVE TO COME FORWARD FOR, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CODA PARK AND RIDE.
UM, AS THAT, AS THAT CONTINUES THROUGH THE PROCESS OVERALL, THIS SITE IS LOCATED, UM, WITHIN THE SCIOTO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET CODE.
SO AGAIN, THAT COMES WITH ADDITIONAL, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE MIX OF USES, WHICH IS BEING PROVIDED WITH THIS PROPOSAL, UM, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTIAL IS A KEY COMPONENT OF THAT AND HELPING TO COMPLIMENT THE USES.
AND AGAIN, REALLY HONING IN ON THAT WALKABLE STREET NETWORK WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT, UM, AS PART OF THAT.
SO THERE'S NO, SOME NEIGHBORHOOD REQUIREMENTS, UM, WITHIN OTHER AREAS HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MET.
BUT THIS IS JUST LARGELY LOOKING AT THAT SCIO NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AREA AS A WHOLE.
UM, SO AS THE APPLICANT HIGHLIGHTED, THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU, UM, IN MULTIPLE, THROUGHOUT THE MULTIPLE STAGES WITH THAT MOST RECENT, UM, PRELIMINARY, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, FOR, UM, FOR THIS SITE IN MAY.
UM, AND AGAIN HIGHLIGHTING, I WON'T BELABOR THAT, BUT RIGHT MATERIALS, UM, RELATED TO THE CONDO AND THE OFFICE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE GARAGE, UM, FACADE TREATMENT, THE VISTA, UM, POINTS AND CONVERSATIONS THROUGH THAT CENTRAL OPEN SPACE, GREEN STREET AND HOW THAT'S DESIGNED AND HOW, UM, CIRCULATION, UM, HAPPENS AS PART OF THAT.
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AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, THAT PARK AND RIDE AREA THAT EXISTS NOW, WHAT THAT CONDITION LOOKS LIKE, UM, IN THE FUTURE.UM, SO AGAIN, THE UPDATED SITE PLAN SHOWS THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE UPDATES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE LAST TIME, LOOKING AND REFINING AT, YOU KNOW, REVISING THE PARKING PLAN, LOOKING AT THAT STREET SCAPE, UM, AND THE STREET NETWORK REALLY FOCUSING WITHIN THE STREET ON THE STREET NETWORK PIECE FROM THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WHAT DO THOSE, UM, LOOK LIKE, PARTICULARLY ALONG BRIDGE PARK AVENUE? SO WE HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, AS PART OF THE REPORT THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT.
AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS, UM, JUST REFINING THOSE DETAILS.
SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM, UM, THROUGH THAT PART AS WELL AS DALE DRIVE AND THAT FUTURE CONDITION, UM, WHEN THE CITY COMES BACK IN AND, AND IT MAKES THAT IMPROVEMENT, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT, UM, ALLOCATION OF SPACE TO MAKE THOSE PUBLIC STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT GREEN STREET, AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AND REALLY WORKING THROUGH, UM, AS RUSS, UM, AND JEFF HIGHLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS OF THAT, HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK, WHAT THE DESIGN OF THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE PARKING, THERE IS A REVISION TO THE PARKING PLAN, UM, BASED ON THE REVISIONS, BUT ULTIMATELY SIG YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKING PROVIDED ON THIS SITE, BUT THEN ALSO WITHIN THE ADJACENT, UM, AREA AND ON STREET TO, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, OPEN SPACE IS ANOTHER, UM, KEY COMPONENT TO THAT.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUIRED RELATED TO THE PROPORTION OF THE PUBLIC GREEN SPACE AND ACCESS, UM, AGAIN, THAT ARE APPROPRIATE, AGAIN, GIVEN THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PARTICULAR OPEN SPACE THAT'S IN THE CENTER.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE, UM, OF THOSE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER CONDITIONS RELATED TO LIGHTING AND SCREENING OF MECHANICALS, UM, THAT ARE CONDITIONED JUST AS PART OF THAT.
SO JUST AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE COVERED, UM, AS THIS MOVES TO BUILDING PERMIT.
UM, SO AGAIN, IN TERMS OF, OF GREEN STREET, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WAS SHARED, THIS IS, UM, INTENDED TO BE A, UH, ONE WAY PRIVATE STREET THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DESIGN DETAILS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, BUT REALLY FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE AND MEETING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INTENT OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT IS HAVING THESE ADDITIONAL CONNECTED CONNECTIONS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, UM, IN TERMS OF DISTRIBUTING TRAFFIC AND PROVIDING ACCESS FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, WHETHER YOU'RE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE VEHICLES.
SO REALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S UPHELD AND PROVIDED, UM, AS PART OF THIS AND ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, FIRE ACCESS.
UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THIS, UM, STREET CONNECTION AND, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ACCESS TO ALL THE BUILDINGS.
SO, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS REALLY HELPING TO, TO MEET ALL THOSE NEEDS AS PROPOSED.
UM, AGAIN, I, I THINK THE APPLICANT TEAM DID A REALLY GREAT JOB OF HIGHLIGHTING ALL THE UPDATES.
I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING SPECIFIC, BUT, UM, AGAIN, MATERIALS, COLORS, ELEVATIONS, ALL THOSE DETAILS THAT THE COMMISSION WAS REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT AS PART OF THE PDP HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED AND, UM, STAFF IS, IS SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THIS BUILDING TYPE.
AGAIN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAIVERS AND DEPARTURES, UM, THAT ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS.
I'M HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH ANY OF THOSE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, MOST ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD RELATED TO THE BUILDING DESIGN LOCATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE AND HELP ELEVATE, RIGHT? THE GOAL OF WAIVERS IS TO HELP ELEVATE THE DESIGN AND, AND MAKE THOSE ALLOWANCES.
SO, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THESE WAIVERS AND CONDITIONS.
UM, THE CONDO BUILDING, AGAIN, THE UPDATES SHARED RIGHT RELATED TO THE BUILDING COLORS, UM, BUT ALSO ENTRY STOOPS ON BRIDGE PARK AVENUE.
I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UM, AND RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO HELP BE, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THAT PRINCIPAL FRONTAGE STREET.
SO HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR THAT ON THE FIRST FLOOR TENANTS ON BRIDGE PARK AVENUE WAS IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED SIMILAR, UM, FOR THE PREVIOUS BUILDING.
AND SUBSEQUENT THERE ARE WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
UM, THE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, AND WE DO HAVE A CONDITION RELATED TO THE WINDOW DETAILING, JUST MAKE SURE, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT WINDOW TYPE AND HOW THAT'S, UM, INCORPORATED IN THE ELEVATION.
SO, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT HOW THAT CAN BE MET.
UM, THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, AGAIN, THE NEW TOWER, UM, FEATURE AND, AND LOOKING AT THOSE MODIFICATIONS AND HOW THE CORNERS ARE TREATED AND LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS.
SO THOSE, UM, OBVIOUSLY ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION AND WORKING WITH STAFF.
UM, THERE ARE SOME WAIVERS THAT ARE INCLUDED, UM, WITH THIS RELATED TO IMPERVIOUS, UM, SURFACES AND PEDESTRIAN ENTRIES,
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UM, THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED.UM, WE DO HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT, UM, THEY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF, UM, ON SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS, INCLUDING THE EXPOSED, UM, CONCRETE STAFF STILL HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ELEMENT.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY HOW, UM, THE PEDESTRIAN AT, AT ENTRANCES AT THE CORNERS ARE TREATED.
UM, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED A LITTLE FURTHER.
SO CURRENTLY THERE'S A CONDITION THAT THEY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US AND BRING THAT BACK, UM, TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, BUT AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE COMMISSION'S, UM, FEEDBACK THAT CAN ALSO BE HANDLED AT A STAFF LEVEL.
SO AT THIS POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT AS THIS MOVES FORWARD WITH YOUR DISCUSSION.
UM, AND THEN, SO THAT'S ALL THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN DETAILS.
THEN FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, UM, THE CODE REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE TO PERMIT THE FUTURE LOCATION OF A PARK AND RIDE ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
SO THAT'S INCLUDED WITHIN THE GARAGE.
UM, AND RELOCATING THAT TO THEN HAVING A HUNDRED RESERVE SPACES IN THE GARAGE TO HELP, UM, OR TO ALLOCATE THOSE FOUR USERS.
UM, THE BUS STOP WOULD BE A LONG BANKER DRIVE, SO THERE WOULD BE A SHELTER THEN AT THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE STRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, AND AGAIN, OPERATE SIMILARLY TO, TO HOW THE CURRENT ONE OPERATES.
BUT AGAIN, THE GOAL IS FOR THAT TO BE THE SPACES AND THOSE USERS TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN THE GARAGE AND THEN ACCESS THE PARK AND RIDE, UM, ALONG BANKER.
UM, IN THE INTERIM, AND I'M SURE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, RIGHT WHEN THE PERKIN RIGHT SPACE THAT'S CURRENTLY FOR PHASE TWO WOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO LOCATE THAT TO A TEMPORARY LOCATION SOMEWHERE ELSE IN BRIDGE STREET.
SO WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CODA ABOUT WHERE THAT COULD BE DURING THAT TIMEFRAME BEFORE THE GARAGE IS DONE AND IT CAN PERMANENTLY MOVE TO THAT SPACE.
SO THAT WILL BE A FUTURE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT TEMPORARY LOCATION.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT, UM, THAT'S REALLY LOOKING AT AND CREATING TWO LOTS, UM, WITHIN THIS AREA IN ADDITION TO, UM, RESERVES, ONE FOR GREEN STREET AND ONE FOR THE LARGE OPEN SPACE.
AND THEN, UM, BANKER DRIVE IN THAT FUTURE PUBLIC STREET THAT IS INFORMALLY CALLED DAVE THOMAS BOULEVARD, THOSE WILL BECOME PUBLIC STREETS.
UM, SO THAT IS INCLUDED ON THE PLAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE SOME MINOR CONDITIONS RELATED TO STORM WATER AND UTILITIES AND JUST MAKING SURE ALL THE PLANS, UM, INCLUDE ALL THE DETAILS THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, AS THAT MOVES THROUGH THE SITE PERMIT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, THERE'S WILL BE FIVE ACTIONS TONIGHT.
SO THE FIRST IS ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURE REVIEW.
SO THERE'S TWO OF THOSE, UM, RELATED TO THE OFFICE BUILDING, THERE ARE 17 WAIVERS THAT ARE BROKEN DOWN BY EACH OF THE, UM, SORT OF AREAS, OPEN SPACE OFFICE, CONDO, GARAGE BUILDING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, SO THEN AS PART OF THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN CRITERIA, WE'RE SAYING THAT'S MET THEN WITH, UM, LET'S SKIP, SORRY, I'LL, SO THERE ARE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, FOR, FOR THE FDP, UM, THAT I HIGHLIGHTED AND THAT ARE INCLUDED IN DETAIL IN YOUR REPORT.
UM, AND THEN THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE, UH, WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING WITH NO CONDITIONS AND THEN THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAID THAT HAVE A CONDITION.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT OBVIOUSLY AS WELL.
UM, AND I, WE HAVE, UH, DAN BUM HERE WHO HELPED WITH THE REVIEW OF THE DETAILED NATURE.
'CAUSE THIS IS REALLY ZACH'S BABY, SO I'M PINCH HITTING FOR HIM.
SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE SOME REALLY TECHNICAL QUESTION, HE CAN, HE CAN HELP US.
UH, WITH THAT I WILL LOOK TO THE COMMISSION AND MR. GARVIN, I'M GONNA PICK ON YOU FIRST, WE'LL DO QUESTIONS FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AND FOR STAFF.
AND IF YOU, WHEN YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS, IF YOU COULD, UM, UH, PREFACE IT WITH WHAT TYPE OF QUESTIONS SO THAT THE, THE TEAM CAN STAGE THE PERSON WHO WOULD BE BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION GUYS ON, ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, I DON'T HAVE REALLY A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
WE'VE, YOU KNOW, GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS IN EARLIER STAGES.
UM, A COUPLE LITTLE CLARIFICATIONS.
SO FIRST FOR STAFF, UM, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT CODA APPROVAL WOULD COME DOWN THE ROAD.
DOES STAFF STILL FEEL THAT PARKING IS SUFFICIENT WITH A HUNDRED SPACES GOING TOWARDS CODA IN THAT SHORT TERM, OR WOULD THAT CAUSE ANY SQUEEZE FROM OUR REVIEW? UM, AGAIN, THERE, THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING PROVIDED IN THE GARAGE WITH ON STREET.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S AN ANALYSIS THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET LOOKING AT THE OTHER GARAGES IN THE AREA, BECAUSE AS I RECALL IN THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, THEIR, I GUESS INTUITION IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA MAYBE BE PARKING IN THE OTHER GARAGES AND COMING TO THIS SPACE.
SO THIS REALLY WOULD BE MORE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE AND MAYBE THE OFFICE USERS.
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COMING THERE ON A, YOU KNOW, TO SEE THE OPEN SPACE OR USE THE RESTAURANT SPACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'D COME FROM ONE OF THE OTHER EXISTING GARAGES.UM, JUST ON THE COLOR CHANGES, I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS FOR, FOR MATT ON THE APARTMENTS.
CAN YOU CLARIFY, DID YOU SAY THAT THE POTENTIAL TENANTS DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE BOULDER GUESS CRANBERRY? IT WAS THE, UH, CRAWFORD HO SALES TEAM.
YEAH, THEY WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE NEUTRAL, UM GOTCHA.
BUT NOTHING RELATED TO THE MATERIAL CHANGES OR ANYTHING, NOT A MATERIAL CHANGE JUST TO COLOR.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW.
HEY, JENNY, HOW MANY, AND THIS IS, I WASN'T ON THE COMMISSION DURING THE TIME, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER BLOCKS WHERE THERE WAS MIXED USE, DO YOU RECALL ON AVERAGE HOW MANY WAIVERS WERE APPROVED? NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT IS NOT ATYPICAL FOR THERE TO BE AS MANY AS THERE ARE.
UM, AGAIN, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, RIGHT? AND, AND WHAT'S, UM, WHAT'S SHOWN ON HERE.
SO AGAIN, I, I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONE SPECIFICALLY WANNA TALK ABOUT, BUT THIS IS PRETTY ON PAR FOR, FOR THAT.
SO IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT DID, HOW MUCH WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT TRYING TO NOT HAVE WAIVERS ON SOME OF THESE PARTICULAR ELEMENTS? I'M TALKING IN GENERAL, I KNOW SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, AND I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, THE ONES FOR THE OPEN SPACE, BUT MORE ON EACH OF THE BUILDINGS WERE, WHAT WERE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT TRYING TO GET THEM WITHIN THE CODE RATHER THAN REQUIRING A WAIVER? I MEAN, WITH ANY PROJECT, NOT JUST WITH THIS ONE, BUT I MEAN, OUR GOAL IS FOR PEOPLE TO MEET THE CODE.
UM, AND, BUT THEN AGAIN, THE OTHER PIECE OF THE WAIVERS IS RIGHT, THAT THAT'S NOT, SHOULD NOT BE SEEN AS A BAD THING, RIGHT? IF THAT INCREASES THE DESIGN OR THERE ARE UNIQUE ASPECTS TO YOUR BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA ALLOW, THAT'S THE ALLOWANCE FOR THAT ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU AND A CASE BE MADE FOR WHY THAT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
UM, AGAIN, IF, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S SPECIFIC ONES, BUT I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, LIKE THE OPEN SPACE ONE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S, WE WANNA PROVIDE THIS UNIQUE PARTICULAR SPACE, RIGHT? SO THEN THE PROPORTIONS OF THAT CAN'T BE MET BECAUSE THAT'S, AGAIN, UNIQUE TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
UM, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IN MY RECOLLECTION, BLOCK G WAS OUR HEAVIEST ONE.
THERE WERE 30 WAIVERS PER BLOCK.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS WILL GO TO ON THE APPLICANT, SO MAYBE RUSS, IF YOU WANNA STEP UP ON THIS ONE AND IF YOU NEED TO DIVERT IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO IN, IN, IN REGARD TO SOME OF THESE WAIVERS, UH, AND I'M LARGELY FOCUSING ON THE BUILDINGS WHERE THERE'S INABILITY TO HAVE, UM, MATERIAL TRANSITIONS IN SOME OF THE, THE VERTICAL INCREMENTS.
I THINK IT'S ON THE, UH, THE RESTAURANT OFFICE BUILDING.
I THINK IT'S ALSO ON THE CONDOMINIUM BUILDING.
WHAT, WHAT WERE THE DISCUSSIONS, AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, BUT NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR PICTURE, CLEAR PICTURE ON SOME OF THE, THE DESIGN ON IT.
WHAT WERE THE DISCUSSIONS, IF YOU RECALL, WITH THE CITY ABOUT YOUR INABILITY WITH THE WAY YOU WANTED TO DESIGN IT, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET SOME OF THOSE TRANSITIONS? SO WE, IT IS REALLY, REALLY YOUR, YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT CURRENTLY ON.
I'VE BEEN GOTTEN SO GOOD AT THAT LATELY.
SO ACTUALLY BY THE WAY, I THINK A BLOCK, THE AC HAD EVEN MORE THAN G BLOCK, BUT, UM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD TO DESIGN TO A CODE, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN, UM, MAYBE WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN SOME OF THE OTHER BLOCKS.
UM, AND SO WE, WE TRY FIRST TO, TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT AND THEN WE TRY TO DO TO, TO APPLY THAT AS BEST WE CAN TO THE SITE AND APPLY THAT TO THE CODE THAT'S ON THE SITE.
UM, SOMETIMES IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET THEM, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SITES WHERE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF GRADE CHANGE.
UM, I THINK THAT SPECIFIC TO THE, TO THE VERTICAL TRANSITIONS, I THINK IS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, WE WERE ON THAT SOUTH FACADE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT SOFTER, THAT LET THE BUILDING LET THE OPEN SPACE SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER THAN THE BUILDING DID, RIGHT? AND SO THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE,
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WE EMPHASIZED THE CORNER, THAT CORNER THERE ON DALE DRIVE, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT MOVE.BUT AS WE MOVE OUR WAY THROUGH THE OPEN SPACE, THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD REALLY START TO ARTICULATE THAT BUILDING STARTED TO TAKE THE EMPHASIS OFF THE OPEN SPACE AND ONTO THE BUILDING.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT REALLY EARLY ON.
UM, AND IT WAS REFLECTED IN A LOT OF THE, THE DESIGNS THAT YOU SAW WAS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO SOFTEN THAT, THAT ELEVATION A LITTLE BIT.
SO THAT, THAT IS WHY WE BROUGHT TO YOU WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU.
WE ALWAYS TRIED TO, TO MEET THE, THE WAIVERS AS BEST WE CAN BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR THEM ANYMORE THAN YOU WANT TO HEAR THEM.
BUT WHEN WE THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, WE WANT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
JENNY, CAN YOU BRING UP THE, THAT OVERALL, OR I GUESS ONE OF THE PICTURES OF THE GREEN STREET, AGAIN, THERE'S, I KNOW IT'S ONE WAY NOW I KNOW I'VE BEEN VERY CRITICAL ON THE, THE STREET.
IS IT, IS IT FAIR TO ASSUME THOUGH THAT THE DELIVERY AND THE TRASH COMPONENTS WILL STILL HAVE TO TRAVERSE THEN THROUGH THE STREET TO GET OUT TO GET OUT? YES, BUT THERE ARE PULL OFFS AT EACH OF THE BUILDINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING THE PATH.
JENNY, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE CHANGE IN SOME OF THE MATERIAL RELATIVE, I THINK BEFORE THERE WASN'T, I MEAN WE, WE HAD DISCUSSION ON THE NEW BRICK, BUT NOW THE PROPOSAL HERE IS TO HAVE THAT BE MORE OF A PR PRIMARY FEATURE.
ISN'T THAT RIGHT? ON ONE OF THE, THE PRIMARY FACADE MATERIALS, IS THAT RIGHT? SO THERE'S A WAIVER FOR THIN, THIN BRICK, THIN BRICK VIEWS OF THIN BRICK.
THAT'S WHAT I I SAY NEW BRICK.
THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE NEW BRICK.
AND I THINK THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE WANTED THE BRICK LOOK, BUT THE WEIGHT OF IT WE COULDN'T HANDLE.
IS THAT WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME? I THINK FULL DEPTH.
THE CITY'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, HAVING THE, THE THIN BRICK AT THAT INSTALLATION.
AND WE WORKED WITH, UH, MARK FORD TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ALIGNING WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH YOU ALL, UM, MAYBE A MONTH OR SO AGO.
AND THEN JENNY, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU HAD MENTIONED IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE GARAGE THAT THE CITY STILL HAD SOME CONCERNS, THERE WAS SOME PEDESTRIAN ENTRY, BUT EXPOSED CONCRETE.
CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE? SURE.
AND I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE, AS PART OF THE, UH, CONDITION, THERE COULD BE, UH, IF WE LET IT GO FORWARD, YOU'LL THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE MORE CURIOUS ON THAT.
YEAH, SO, UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS IS, AND AGAIN, THE APP, AS APPLICANT SHARED, THEY DID MINIMIZE, UM, SOME OF THE EXPOSED CONCRETE.
SO LIKE THIS ELEVATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, RIGHT? THERE'S STILL SOME AREAS WHERE EXPOSED CONCRETE IS SHOWN.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S CONCERN WAS THAT THAT REALLY ISN'T MEETING WITH THE AESTHETIC OF THE OVERALL GARAGE AND WANTED TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, ATTENTION TO THAT.
AGAIN, KNOWING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO BALANCE THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM A BUILDING STANDPOINT, BUILDING CODE STANDPOINT, THE OPENNESS PIECE OF THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD THAT, UM, WHAT MODIFICATIONS COULD BE MADE, UM, TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR.
THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT I THINK WAS LOOKING AT THOSE ENTRANCES AT THE CORNER, RIGHT? YOU DON'T REALLY, IT'S NOT REALLY SIGNIFYING TO YOU AS A PEDESTRIAN OR HAS THAT FEEL AT THE, AT THAT PEDESTRIAN LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS THE ENTRANCE AND GIVING THAT, I DON'T KNOW, GIVING THAT, UM, ATTENTION THAT STAFF REALLY FELT LIKE SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE HIGHLIGHTED.
AND THEN RUSSELL PUT THIS BACK ON YOU A LITTLE BIT IN YOUR MIND.
I KNOW THERE COULD HAVE TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS AND SOME DIFFERENT AND SOME CHANGES.
JUST WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW YOU'D BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE? SO THE PIECES, THE EXPOSED CONCRETE SPECIFICALLY, UM, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT CLADDING THAT, UM, AND, AND WE, WE COULD, IF EVERYONE SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WHAT THE, THE REASON WHY WE, WE BACKED AWAY FROM IT.
I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE IS SHADOW LINES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT, THAT PLANE TO BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK THAN THE, THE, THE BRICK FACADES THAT YOU SEE NEXT TO IT.
AND SO IT JUST GIVES MORE DEPTH AS SOON AS WE START TO CLAD THAT YOU GET LESS DEPTH.
UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT WE JUST LIKE IS ITS TEXTURE, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT TEXTURE.
IT'S, IT'S USED IN THE DISTRICT, BUT SPARINGLY, UM, ADMITTEDLY.
UM, BUT WE REALLY LIKED IN ALSO THE WAY THAT IT, AND IT, IT BECAME REALLY APPARENT WHEN WE MADE THE CHANGES TO THAT, THAT CORNER, UM, COLUMN WAS THE WAY THAT NOW YOU'VE GOT THAT, THAT CONCRETE, THAT KIND OF WEAVES ITS WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING, RIGHT? SO
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WE'VE GOT THAT LITTLE BIT THAT'S, UH, THAT YOU CAN SEE AT THE CORNER, BUT THEN YOU SEE IT HINTS OF IT IS IT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT FACADE, UM, SECTIONS.AND, AND AGAIN, GIVING IT THAT DEPTH, I THINK TO, UM, TO THE POINT ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRIES, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A PLACEHOLDER BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH CODA AND WHAT, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S THE, THE CORNER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE THERE AND, AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK.
IT, IT'S, IT'S GONNA LOOK SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE, UM, HAD IT MORE OF LIKE A TI RIGHT? LIKE SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS, WE, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T DO IT THAT WAY, BUT I MEAN, EFFECTIVELY IT'S GONNA BE A TENANT IMPROVEMENT THAT CODA IS GOING TO DO.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BRAND IT.
IT WILL LIKELY COME BACK, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR TO P AND Z.
UM, I, IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME, BUT IF THERE WAS A CANOPY THERE.
SO I THINK, UM, THAT WAS KIND OF A MOMENT, ANOTHER AHA MOMENT I HAD WHEN I WAS SITTING THERE.
I WAS LIKE, WHY DIDN'T WE TREAT THAT LIKE A, A TENANT IMPROVEMENT LIKE WE DO EVERYWHERE ELSE? 'CAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT IT WILL BE.
JENNY, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
IN, UM, PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS WHERE THERE'S BEEN A PROPOSAL FOR PRIVATE STREET, I BELIEVE THIS STAFF HAS NOT VIEWED THAT FAVORABLY, UM, PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
SO IN RESIDENTIAL, SOLELY RESIDENTIAL OR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT HAS NOT BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN, UM, OR IT POSES PROBLEMS FROM A LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AND THAT THAT COST BEING BURDENED BY THOSE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.
UM, IN BRIDGE STREET, WE HAVE TWO OTHER EXAMPLES OF PRIVATE STREETS, UM, WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, JUST FOR CONTEXT.
AND SO IT'S EVIDENTLY WORKED OUT FINE.
YES, THOSE SETTINGS, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE CODE.
AND IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF PRIMARY FACADE MATERIALS? NO, YOU COULD, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY YOUR GOAL IS TO GET TO 80% OF PERMITTED PRIMARY MATERIALS, SO CORRECT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SINGLE MATERIAL.
SO AS LONG AS IT'S MADE UP OF PRIMARY MATERIALS, 80%, RIGHT? MM-HMM
I'M, I'M IN THE, IN THE, UM, DELIBERATION PHASE.
UM, YOU'VE, WELL LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
SO YOU'VE INTERPRETED THAT CLAUSE IN THE CODE, THE CONSULTANT THAT WROTE THIS REPORT WHEN THEY SAID PRIMARY MATERIALS AND THEY SAID EVERY FACADE, RIGHT? SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF SOLIDITY ON EVERY FACADE, RIGHT? I'M LOOKING, 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE LIKE EVERY BUILDING TYPE HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
SO KEEP, KEEP ASKING, I'M LOOKING.
SO THE PERSON WHO ORIGINALLY WROTE THIS, DID THEY INTEND FOR THERE TO BE MULTIPLE PRIMARY MATERIALS? BECAUSE PART OF THIS LANGUAGE SUGGESTS THE DESIRE FOR CONTINUITY AROUND A BUILDING, WHICH IS THE WAY MOST BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED.
AND SO I CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT LANGUAGE FROM A LOT OF OTHER ARCHITECTURAL CODES.
SO MY RECOLLECTION WHEN THE BRIDGE STREET CODE WAS DEVELOPED WAS, IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE PARTICULAR MATERIALS THAT COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION REALLY WANTED THAT TO BE LIMITED TO THE PRIMARY MATERIAL, PERMITTED PRIMARY MATERIALS LISTED IN THE CODE.
AND HOWEVER YOU WANTED TO USE THOSE ON A FACADE, I MEAN, I GET THE CONTINUITY PART.
I THINK THAT'S A SECONDARY PIECE OF THAT TO BE CONSIDERED RIGHT.
BUT THE OVERALL GOAL WAS REALLY STICKING TO THOSE TRIED AND TRUE MATERIALS FOR LACK OF A BETTER EXPLANATION.
UM, MR. LIDLE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, UM, ON YOUR, ON YOUR ELEVATIONS, AND I WISH I HAD, I BROUGHT THIS UP WHEN WE SAW YOUR ELEVATIONS BEFORE.
I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE LEADERS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE, THE SIDES IN PRETTY PROMINENT LOCATIONS IN THE COURTYARD.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE FIVE STORY DOWNSPOUTS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO THOSE, SO NOW AS AN ARCHITECT, I KNOW WE CAN DRAW ANYTHING.
ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT PROBABLY THE THINNEST PIECE OF MATERIAL ON THAT SITE, THE ALUMINUM FOR THESE LEADERS, I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GONNA BE ALUMINUM, CAN BE MAINTAINED STRAIGHT AND BE, CAN REALLY CREATE A CONTINUOUS EDGE IN THAT LOCATION? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, PARTICULARLY ON THE ELEVATION THAT FACES THE POOL, THAT THOSE COULD BE TUCKED RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER WHERE YOUR OFFSETS ARE.
WE ARE DRAINING THE ENTIRE BUILDING THROUGH LEADERS AND DOWNSPOUTS ON THE COURTYARD SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THAT WAS DONE DELIBERATELY TO
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CONCENTRATE ALL THE STORM WATER TO BE, UH, ROUTED IN A FASHION THAT, UM, GRAVITY IS ABLE TO DRAIN IT EFFECTIVELY.WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT ON THE, UH, STREET FACADES.
SO THIS IS, UH, THIS PRESENTED THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY AND, AND REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY DRAIN THE ROOF EFFECTIVELY AND ECONOMICALLY WITHOUT DOING INTERNAL ROOFED RAINS.
AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DID IT, BUT MY QUESTION IS THERE IN SUCH PROMINENT LOCATIONS THAT, AND THE QUALITY OF THAT MATERIAL IS PROBABLY THE LEAST SUBSTANTIAL MATERIAL ON YOUR ELEVATION.
UM, AND IT SEEMED LIKE THE TWO, PARTICULARLY ON THE ELEVATION FACING THE POOL, YOU HAVE AN OFFSET RIGHT THERE.
YOU HAVE TWO OFFSETS THAT COULD BE TUCKED RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER WHERE THAT OFFSET'S OCCURRING.
AND THEN YOU'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE, TO THE CRAFTSMANSHIP AND THE QUALITY AND THE POTENTIAL FOR LEAKS AND WELL, THE OFFSETS ON SOME OF THE AREAS AREN'T AS GREAT AS IT MIGHT APPEAR.
AND SOME OF 'EM WOULD ALSO BE COMING DOWN THROUGH, UH, BALCONIES WHICH PREVENT, WHICH PRESENT ANOTHER DETAILING, UM, CONUNDRUM FOR ME,
AND I'M WORRIED THE WAY IT'LL TURN OUT WHEN IT'S BUILT 'CAUSE BECAUSE THE THERE AND I COMPLIMENTED YOUR ELEVATIONS BEFORE LAST TIME YOU WERE HEARING IT.
I MEAN, AND I THINK, AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS, BUT, BUT I JUST QUESTION THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU AT THE MOMENT, SO THANK YOU.
UM, UH, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
UM, HOW DO YOU, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY PARKS ON GREEN STREET? ARE YOU, UM, IS, IS, IS ARE LIMITATIONS TO PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO PARK ON THAT, ON THAT STREET? 'CAUSE THERE ARE NO CURBS AND YOU JUST HAVE THESE, THESE BOULDERS.
YEAH, IT'S THE SAME AS PARKING ILLEGALLY ANYWHERE ELSE ON A CURB, IT'LL BE ENCOURAGED TO.
THERE'S NO, WELL, CAN YOU REMIND ME? PARKING GARAGE, RIGHT? SO IF YOU SEE ACROSS FROM THE GARAGE, THERE'S A RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A BANK OF POND STREET PARKING THERE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE.
THAT DOESN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT THERE IS SOME ON, THERE IS, THERE'S SOME.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THE MEDIANS HAVE BEEN SHAPED THE WAY THEY HAVE THERE.
IT'S JUST MEANT TO BE A MORE CASUAL, MORE NATURAL, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT IMMERSIVE, ENGAGING AFTER THE EIGHTH STREET.
THAT, THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU.
UM, I'M GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION AGAIN BECAUSE, AND I ASKED IT LAST MEETING AND REALLY DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER OR AN ANSWER THAT I UNDERSTOOD.
'CAUSE YOUR, YOUR ELEVATIONS MAKE CONNECTIONS AT THE CORNERS WITH ONE ANOTHER.
BUT IN TERMS OF CONTINUITY FOR THE BUILDING, THERE'S NOT CONTINUITY OF THE BUILDING.
AND WHEN I, AND, AND SO I'M WONDERING WHY LIKE THIS GOOD EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE, THE, UM, PERSPECTIVE UP THERE.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE PANELS THAT ARE FACING, UM, AND I THINK THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM THAT FACE THE SIDE STREET, THE GRAY PANELS THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT.
AND THERE'S ONE BEYOND THE ENTRY AND THEN JUST ONE TURNS THE CORNER.
SO WHY ISN'T THERE, WHY DOESN'T THAT APPEAR ANY PLACE ELSE? OR ON THE OTHER HAND, I HEARD THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT OKAY, WHY YOU'RE TREATING THIS SIDE OF THE PARK THE WAY YOU ARE.
WHY DOESN'T THAT GRID, WHICH ACTUALLY CHANGES THREE TIMES, IT'S A BLACK BRICK GRID, IT'S A GRAY BRICK, GRAY BRICK GRID.
IT'S A GRID THAT HAS WOOD INTERSPERSED IN IT.
SO THAT GRID ORDER, WHICH ORGANIZES ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING DOESN'T CONTINUE AROUND TO ORGANIZE AND, AND INTEGRATE OTHER PARTS OF THE BUILDING.
AND I THINK OF SO MANY BUILDINGS WE'RE AWARE OF CRAWFORD HO'S OFFICE BUILDING TOWER.
THERE'S CLEAR CONTINUITY ON THE ELEVATIONS AND IT GIVES THE BUILDING A CLEARLY AN IDENTIFIABLE IMAGE THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW COME THESE ELEVATIONS ARE SO DIFFERENT? WELL, THAT WAS AN INTENTIONAL DESIGN MOVE AND EACH PIECE AS WE WORKED AROUND THE BUILDING HAS A SPECIFIC, UM, KIND OF GOAL IN MIND.
SO I CAN START WITH THE NORTHWEST CORNER AGAIN.
WE WANTED TO POP THE BALCONIES OUT THERE THAT ADDRESSES BRIDGE PARK AVENUE AS YOU'RE COMING AWAY FROM THE, THE BRIDGE.
UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE WE'VE, AND MADE THE
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PANELS THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING LARGER 'CAUSE IT IS THE NORTH SIDE.SO WE'VE DECREASED THE AMOUNT OF GLAZING.
UM, AND AGAIN, CONVERSELY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE'VE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF GLAZING AND TOOK THE GLASS TO THE FLOOR.
UM, THE ORGANIZATION OF THE ELEMENTS ARE REALLY THE STRUCTURAL GRIDS AND THE SPACING.
'CAUSE THE SPACING IS TYPICALLY 10 FEET ON CENTER AND ALL THOSE PIERS THAT GO AROUND THE ENTIRE BUILDING USE THAT GRID, UM, AS ONE OF THE ORGANIZING ELEMENTS.
THE SECOND ELEMENT IS AT EVERY FLOOR LINE WE HAVE A CASTSTONE BAND.
UM, AND THAT PRETTY MUCH WRAPS THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING EXCEPT FOR ON THE NORTH SIDE WE HAVE SOME BRICK ACCENT PIECES.
SO, UM, MY RESPONSE IS, IT'S, IT'S REALLY TO GIVE A BETTER VARIETY AND A BUILDUP OF PIECES, UH, AGAIN, FOR A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE AS A PEDESTRIAN WOULD GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING.
AND, UM, ON G ONE IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT PIECES ON BUILDING G ONE.
UM, AND I THINK THIS ONE, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, WE'VE GOT FIVE OR SIX.
AND AGAIN, SOME PIECES ARE MEANT TO ADDRESS THE PARK.
SOME PIECES ARE MEANT TO ADDRESS A VISTA, UH, OF VIEW OR, UM, AN ACCENT CORNER.
YEAH, I COUNTED EIGHT DIFFERENT COMPOSITIONAL STRATEGIES AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY AROUND.
WE'LL, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS IN THE DELIBERATION STAGE, BUT YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION.
UH, THANKS FOR COMING IN AGAIN.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE KIND OF BIG PICTURE KIND OF QUESTIONS AND UM, ONE OF THEM IS THE PHASE TWO SITE ON THE ILLUSTRATIVE SITE PLAN.
IT'S SHOWN AS GREEN
UM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A PARKING RIDE PARKING LOT.
IS THAT CORRECT? UNTIL THE GARAGE IS FINISHED AND OCCUPIABLE, WHICH THEN YOU COULD, CODA CAN MOVE INTO IT.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE, THE LONG-TERM SCHEDULE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCHEDULE FOR THIS BLOCK, THE INTENTION IS IS THAT WE WILL START THE CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE TWO CONDO BUILDING 12 MONTHS AFTER WE BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF THE REST OF IT WITH THE INTENTION THAT THE, UM, THE CORE AND SHELL OF THAT BUILDING WILL LARGELY BE DONE WHEN WE MOVE EVERYONE ELSE IN.
AND SO THE, THE BLOCK WILL LOOK COMPLETE.
UM, WE ARE, I I WISH THAT WE WOULD'VE BEEN DONE WITH OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH CODA.
WE ARE NOT YET, WE ARE AWFULLY CLOSE.
UM, TO, TO BEING COMPLETE WITH THAT AND BEING ABLE TO, TO WRAP THAT IN.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS, THIS BLOCK FROM A, FROM A A PUBLIC FINANCING PERSPECTIVE DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT THAT BUILDING.
SO EVERYBODY IS VERY, VERY INCENTIVIZED FOR THAT TO GO.
SO WE WILL BEGIN MASS EXCAVATION OF THIS BLOCK, LIKELY WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE FULL CODA, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE FINAL DEAL BEING MADE.
BUT THAT, WHILE EVERYTHING ELSE IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THIS WILL STILL CATCH UP.
WE WILL SIMPLY MOVE OUR, OUR OUR FENCES.
SO IT'S LIKELY NOT TO BE A GRASS FIELD AT ALL? CORRECT.
UM, AND, AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER UH, POINT I WAS GONNA ASK WAS THE LANDSCAPE ON THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE OPEN SPACE, UM, LOOKS FAIRLY MINIMAL IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING TREATED THERE.
AND, AND I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY THOUGHTS WAS IF THAT'S GONNA BE A SURFACE PARKING LOT THERE FOR A WHILE, YOU WANNA HAVE SOME SCREENING OF IT AND MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME MORE PLANT MATERIAL TO THAT.
UM, BUT MAYBE IN PHASE TWO THERE'S ANOTHER KIND OF STAB AT THAT EDGE.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ANTICIPATING.
SO, UM, AS WE APPROVE THIS, UM, THAT WE'RE APPROVING WHAT WE SEE AND WHAT'S IN THE DRAWINGS, RIGHT, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK IS KIND OF MINIMALIST ON THAT EDGE OF THE OPUS SPACE, BUT ANTICIPATING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER LAYER OF LANDSCAPE INTRODUCED WITH PHASE TWO.
IS THAT, THAT THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
UM, I WANNA MOVE TO GREEN STREET.
SO AGAIN, I, I LOVE THE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE THE FIRST WOO EARTH IN DUBLIN.
I THINK UNLESS SOME OTHER PROJECTS CATCH UP TO IT, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY WILL.
UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHY ONE WAY SOUTH AS OPPOSED TO ONE WAY NORTH.
WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SO MANY TIMES.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE WE LANDED ON.
THERE WAS A, A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS.
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I THINK IT, I THINK A LOT OF IT ACTUALLY, BRIDGE PARK AVENUE IS A MORE DRIVEN STREET THAN BANKER DRIVE IS.AND SO YOUR DELIVERIES ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO COME OFF OF BRIDGE PARK AVENUE THAN REALLY ANYWHERE ELSE.
AND SO THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD GET THEM OFF OF BRIDGE PARK AVENUE QUICKLY INSTEAD OF PARKING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT LIKE THEY DO NOW.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS ONE REASON, I THINK ANOTHER REASON WAS SO THAT, UM, IT WAS SO ANYBODY THAT WAS LEAVING THE GARAGE COULDN'T GO THROUGH THE, THE SPACE.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, IF WE WERE TO, TO UTILIZE, YOU KNOW, FROM BRIDGE PARK AVENUE TO SAY THE, THE, THE TOWER GARAGE.
THE GARAGE TOWER, IF WE WERE TO CLOSE THAT OFF, IF THERE WERE CARS STILL IN THE GARAGE THAT WE NEEDED TO GET OUT, WE COULD.
SO I THINK THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE SOUTH AS OPPOSED TO NORTH.
IT, IT JUST MADE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE.
SO I'LL TURN AROUND WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND THAT EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO ACCESS THAT GARAGE ENTRANCE HAS TO COME FROM THE NORTH.
SO YOU ARE REQUIRING PEOPLE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE GREEN STREET TO GET TO THAT PARKING ENTRANCE FOLLOWING THE BEACON THAT YOU'VE JUST CREATED.
SO, SO, UM, SO DID YOU LOOK AT ALL ABOUT MAKING THE SOUTHERN END OF THE GREEN STREET TWO WAY SO THAT YOU CAN GET IN AND OUT OF THE GARAGE AND NOT HAVE TO DRIVE ALONG GREEN STREET? I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID THAT OR NOT.
AND WHY DID YOU NOT DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE?
JAMES PELTIER WITH CRAWFORD HOEING.
UM, SO WE DID STUDY THE TWO-WAY, UM, SOUTH OF THE WESTERN ENTRANCE AND DECIDED AGAINST THAT BECAUSE REALLY THE MAIN ENTRANCE THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA USE IS THAT EASTERN ENTRANCE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING ACCESSING, LIKE IF YOU'RE DRIVING HERE TO THE OFFICE IN THE MORNING, YOU'LL BE COMING FROM THE EAST, HEADING WEST, GO DOWN THAT EASTERN STREET AND INTO THE GARAGE IN THAT, UH, EASTERN ENTRANCE.
AND THEN THE WESTERN REALLY ONLY ACCESSES THE, UM, LOWER LEVEL FOR THE MOST PART.
YOU COULD GO UP TO THE SECOND LEVEL ON THAT SECOND ONE, BUT EVERYONE LEAVING THE GARAGE WILL MOST LIKELY GO TO THAT EASTERN STREET, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
PUBLIC STREET AID IS ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WHEREAS GREEN STREET ISN'T.
SO I THINK IT'S OUR, AGAIN, IT'S MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA ACCESS THE GARAGE.
AND IF I SAW THIS COOL STREET THAT I COULD DRIVE DOWN TO GET TO THE GARAGE, I'D GO, HEY, WOW, I'M GONNA TAKE THAT ROUTE AND I CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE OPEN SPACE.
AND THE OTHER WAY IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF DRIVING AROUND TO THE BACK OF WENDY'S AND NOT SO EXCITING.
BUT I, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT DRAGGING PEOPLE THROUGH GREEN STREET TO GET TO THAT GARAGE ENTRANCE, UM, COULD BE A CHALLENGE.
COULD I JUST HAVE YOU CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID ON THE WESTERN ENTRANCE, THE ACCESS OFF OF GREEN STREET, CAN YOU ACCESS ALL LEVELS OF THE PARKING GARAGE FROM THAT WESTERN ENTRANCE? YEAH.
BUT IT'S THE, IT'S JUST MORE, IT'S MORE CONVENIENT TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE ON THE EASTERN SIDE, WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU GO DIRECTLY UP THE RAMP.
IF YOU'RE ON THE WESTERN SIDE, YOU GO IN AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND AND GO UP THE RAMP.
ANYWAY, OBSERVATION, MAYBE SOME OTHER COMMENTS.
BRIAN QUACKENBUSH, E EM, H AND T.
UH, ONE OTHER THING I WANNA END AS IT RELATES TO THAT, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THIS GARAGE ARE EITHER OFFICE USERS OR RESIDENCE.
THEY KNOW HOW TO GET INTO THAT GARAGE.
THEY KNOW HOW THAT GARAGE FUNCTIONS.
GETTING IN THE WEST SIDE IS A LOT MORE CONVENIENT TO GET TO THE MAJORITY OF THE SPACES.
PROBABLY 90% OF THE SPACES, IF YOU COME IN THE EAST SIDE, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GET TO WHERE ALL THE SPACES ARE LOCATED.
SO I THINK BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF USERS TO THAT GARAGE, YOU'RE GONNA, MORE THAN LIKELY THEY'RE GONNA BE USING THAT EAST ACCESS THAN THE WEST ACCESS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, PART OF THE REASON, ALL THOSE REASONS, WE SAID, AGAIN, I GUESS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS IF THAT WAS A, IF BOTH ENTRANCES WERE FROM THE, THE SOUTH, THEN YOU AVOID, YOU MAY HAVE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THROUGH THE GREEN STREET, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE, I HOPE WE WANT TO DO.
WE WANNA MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN.
UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT GREEN STREET.
YOU SHOW SOME BOLLARDS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE KIND OF NORTH OF THE GARAGE ENTRANCE AND THERE'S NOT, I WONDER WHY, WHY IS THE PLAN SHOWING BOLLARDS THERE? THEY, THE REMOVABLE BOLLARDS, IT SAYS IN THE NARRATIVE, WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T THERE BE BOLLARDS ON BOTH ENDS TO BLOCK TRAFFIC IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO PREP TO GO THROUGH? I THINK THERE SHOULD BE.
AGAIN, WE'RE APPROVING THIS PLAN.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT'S CLEAR.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE, THE, THE POINT
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ABOUT, UM, OR AN OBSERVATION AND MAYBE A, AN ANSWER TO IT IS THE, THE SERVICE, UM, LANE OR PARKING LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU CAN GET A, I MEAN, I ASSUME IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY, NOT, NOT SEMIS, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE BOX TRUCKS, RIGHT? MM-HMMCOMING IN AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR A BOX TRUCK TO PARK AND, AND, AND TAKE GOODS OFF THE BACK AND GET THROUGH THE ISLANDS.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A DIMENSIONAL THING TO GET TO THE, THE, THAT WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING FROM THERE, I ASSUME THAT DELIVERIES ARE COMING INTO THAT, THAT END OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY WOULD BE SO THAT, THAT WOULD, WOULD SERVE, UM, THAT WOULD SERVE THE RESTAURANT ON THE WEST END, BUT IT WOULD ALSO SERVE, LIKE YOU THINK ABOUT FEDEX, UPS TRUCKS RIGHT.
FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE ELEVATOR TO GO UP.
RESTAURANTS BEING SERVICED FROM SOME ON THE OTHER SIDE.
RIGHT? WELL, IT'S, IT'S BEING SERVICED ON THE, LIKE THE, THE PLAN SOUTH, I GUESS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PARK THERE 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT THEM PARKING ON BRIDGE PARK AVENUE.
THAT WAS, I WAS WONDERING YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO NOT A CORRIDOR THROUGH THE BUILDING THAT GETS YOU TO THE RESTAURANT.
UM, ONE OTHER, UH, QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE GREEN, THE, THE, UH, PARK, IF YOU WILL, THE PATHWAY THAT COMES UP FROM THE CORNER OF BRIDGE STREET, UH, BRIDGE PARK AVENUE, AND DALE DRIVE COMES UP AND IT RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.
THAT IS A, A DA ACCESSIBLE ROUTE.
UM, ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS, THERE'S NO SEATING ALONG IT AT ALL, AND I'M THINKING OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING FROM THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET THAT MIGHT NOT BE VERY MOBILE, THEY MAY WANT TO TAKE A REST.
UM, HAD YOU CONSIDERED THAT, THAT THAT'S AN ELEMENT THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT ON A, A DA ACCESSIBLE ROUTE?
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HESITATE TO DO IS PUT FURNITURE ON A FIVE FOOT, EXCUSE ME, 5% SLOPE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT AMATEUR HOUR IF YOU DON'T DO THAT RIGHT.
BUT THERE IS SOME OTHER FURNISHINGS, YOU KNOW, NESTED INSIDE THE PARK.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, A AGAIN, IT'S MY EXPERIENCE IN HOSPITAL ENVIRONMENTS OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE, HAVE TRAVERS TRAVERSING A LANE FOR SURE.
YOU KNOW, THEY JUST, THEY NEED A REST, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE OUTTA BREATH OR SOMETHING.
ANYWAY, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND THAT BRINGS YOU UP AND THEN YEAH.
VERY, VERY LUCKY WITH THE MATH, BY THE WAY.
I MEAN, WE'RE TRAVERSING A BUNCH OF GR HERE AND, UH, WE'RE, THANK GOD IT ALL WORKS BY THE SKIN OF OUR TEETH.
WERE WE ABLE TO MAKE THAT? YEAH, I NOTICED THE, THE GRATING.
UM, SO UNDERNEATH WHERE IT SAYS OPEN SPACE, YOU HAVE UNDERGROUND STORAGE, WATER STORAGE.
UM, AND THEY'RE PIPES, RIGHT? WAS WHAT WAS, THEY'RE A SERIES OF PIPES PIPE.
IT'S NOT A, THEY'RE NOT TANKS, ARE THEY? IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PIPES.
IS IT? AND THAT WAS WHAT I READ, I THOUGHT THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY'RE 11 FOOT DIAMETER, ACTUALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING, THEY'RE GONNA BE REDUCED DOWN TO 10 AS WE'RE TWEAKING THE DESIGN AND THE FINAL SUBMITTAL.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, UH, CORRUGATED METAL PIPES, UM, THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR THIS EXACT PURPOSE.
SO WATER IS COMING THERE FROM THE SITE.
THAT'S THE MAIN, UH, STORAGE FOR THE SITE, IS IT? CORRECT, YEAH.
AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS TO IT AFTER IT COMES INTO THAT SYSTEM? DOES IT GET RELEASED? UM, SLOWLY INTO, INTO THIS, INTO OUR DRAINAGE, INTO OUR, IT, IT DOES NOT GO INTO THE BIO RETENTION THAT'S AT THE LOW POINT OF THE SITE, THE OPEN SPACE.
THAT BIO RETENTION IS SOLELY, UH, PROVIDING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THE OPEN SPACE ITSELF.
SO THE MAJORITY, WELL, BASICALLY ALL OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE SITE IS HAPPENING IN THOSE LARGE PIPES.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GONNA SAY,
WE HAVE A DEDICATED, I JUST IMAGINE ALL THIS WATER COMING THROUGH THAT.
WE HAVE A DEDICATED OUTLET PIPE THAT GOES TO THE, UM, STORM, THE STORM STORM OUTLET IN DALE DRIVE.
UM, I'M SORRY, TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
SO THE TRANSFORMERS, UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY STAND OUT QUITE PROMINENTLY.
WE'VE GOT TWO RIGHT IN THE OPEN SPACE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE THREE THAT'S UP BY THE POOL.
I KNOW THAT IN STAFF COMMENTS, THERE'S A, THERE'S COMMENTS ABOUT SCREENING AND ALL OF THAT.
IS THERE A SCREENING RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S, THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? OR IS THAT SOMETHING TO BE WORKED OUT? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.
SO, UM, UH, AND WE LOVE TO PUT THESE IN THE LANDSCAPE
UM, SO UP BY THE POOL, KIM, WHAT YOU HAVE IS SOME REALLY NICE TOPOGRAPHY, I THINK, UM, HOLDING UP THAT, UM, POOL COURTYARD.
AND AS SUCH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT ACCESS WAY THERE, YOU'VE GOT THOSE, UM, TRANSFORMERS SORT OF NESTED IN A LITTLE BIT OF
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GRAY CHANGE AND HIDDEN BY LANDSCAPE.WHAT WE DIDN'T DO IS PUT A BIG MASONRY WALL IN FRONT OF THEM.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY NEST IT IN THE LANDSCAPE, AND I THINK WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT WAY, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING BIG, NASTY GATES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, SO I, UM, I WAS LOOKING FOR WHAT THAT, IF THERE WAS A BARRIER, WHETHER IT WAS DOORS THAT OPEN OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GET INTO 'EM.
SO IT'S JUST OPEN AND, AND I DIDN'T SEE THE, IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT THERE'S ANYTHING TALL THERE THAT WOULD SCREEN THEM IF I, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
THE GATES ARE BEHIND THE LANDSCAPE.
AND THEN THE OTHER TWO THAT ARE DOWN ON DALE DRIVE, THOSE ARE MM-HMM
DO THEY HAVE GATES ALSO? AND IS IT TOTALLY ENCLOSED? IS I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING THEY DO NOW.
THEY ALSO HAVE GATES AND, AND THEY'LL BE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE, I MEAN, TO THE YEAH, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO NEST THOSE IN LANDSCAPE RATHER THAN HAVE THEM BE A SORE THUMB.
BUT THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A WALL AROUND IT WITH, WITH THE GATE.
THEY, THEY'RE, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS IT'S A RETAINING WALL ON THE HIGH SIDE AND A GATE ON THE LOW SIDE.
MS. HARDER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING JUST A, A LITTLE BIT AGO ABOUT, UM, THE CLADDING AND THE CONCRETE AND SO FORTH, UM, DID YOU TALK WITH THE CITY ABOUT LIKE, JUST CHANGING THE COLOR? IS THAT ANYTHING, OR JUST ENLIGHTEN ME TO THAT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EXPOSED CONCRETE IN THE GARAGE? YEAH, THE EXPOSED CONCRETE.
IS THAT AN OPTION TO JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR OR, IT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO DO.
YOU COULDN'T DO IT WHEN IT WAS BEING POURED, SO YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU'D HAVE TO STAIN IT AFTERWARDS, AND I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD LIKE THE RESULT OF THAT.
SO IT'D BE EASIER TO FLAT AT IT OR SOMETHING, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? YEAH.
AND THEN CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE DAY AND NIGHT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWER, I REALLY GOT THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING WITH THE LIGHTING AT NIGHT, BUT THE DAY YOU WERE KINDA ALLUDING TO THAT, I MIGHT SEE SOMETHING INTERESTING WITH THAT TOO.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE INTENTION, I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA, DAN, IF YOU WANNA TALK TO THAT.
THE INTENTION IS, AGAIN, TO HAVE A POP OF COLOR AND TEXTURE DURING THE DAY.
SO, AND THE SHOUT ON THE SCREEN IS WE'VE GOT A RANDOM, UM, PATTERN OF METAL SHADING, THINGS THAT WILL HELP SHADE THE GLASS, BUT, UM, THEY WILL HAVE THAT COLOR.
UM, THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, AT NIGHT, WE WILL HAVE BLUE OR WHATEVER COLOR LEDS BEHIND THAT TO ENHANCE IT EVEN FARTHER AS AN ART PIECE.
SO WE, AND WE WOULD HAVE, WE WOULD'VE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER WHAT THOSE COLORS WANTED TO BE.
AND WE'VE ALSO, SO YOU'LL NOTICE THE OPACITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THOSE UPPER PANES THAN IT IS IN THE LOWER PANES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, SO IT, IT ACTUALLY WILL REFLECT.
UM, THEN HELP ME WITH THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S HAPPENING OVER AT THE RESIDENTIAL SITE.
UM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ROBUST IN SOME OTHER AREAS, BUT MAYBE NOT IN THAT AREA.
AND I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING IN THERE.
UM, JENNY, COULD WE GET A PLAN, UM, UH, MAYBE HELP ME, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT PART OF THE PLAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CONDOMINIUM SIDE, I GUESS A AROUND THE, UM, THE, THE STREET AREA.
SEEMS LIKE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, I THOUGHT, OH, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU HAD SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN ONE AREA.
AND THEN IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER, WHAT AM I MISSING ON THE CORNERS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
UM, YEAH, HONESTLY, IT'S A PRETTY ROBUST LANDSCAPE PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE, IF THE TECHNICAL DRAWINGS ARE UP HERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WRAPPED AROUND ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, IT'S PRETTY RICH AND PRETTY LUSH.
IF YOU'RE, YEAH, I'M JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND.
'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M HOME LOOKING AT THESE.
IT'S, IT'S HARD SOMETIMES TO TELL.
THESE ARE PRETTY, THESE ARE PRETTY, THESE ARE PRETTY COMPLICATED SET OF DRAWINGS.
AND THEN, SINCE YOU'RE ALL UP HERE, I APPRECIATE THAT TOO.
UM, AND MAYBE, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL ASK THE CITY THIS QUESTION TOO, IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE GREENWAY, THE GREEN STREET AND SO FORTH, UM, HAVE WE TALKED TO LIKE THE POLICE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THAT, UM, OPENING, UH, IS THAT ANYTHING THAT, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT? UM, YOU KNOW, CARS MOVING TOO SWIFTLY THROUGH THAT AREA? FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, WHEN REVIEWING THIS, AGAIN, REALLY THE DESIGN OF THAT AND THE DETAILS
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AND THE MATERIAL CHANGES, I THINK FROM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FROM STAFF'S REVIEW, FEELING LIKE THAT HELPS ADDRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IF YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAUTIOUS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THE MATERIALS ARE DIFFERENT.YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH ON STREET PARKING, RIGHT? THAT HELPS YOU NATURALLY SLOW DOWN 'CAUSE YOU WANNA BE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO I DON'T, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, OR I'VE NOT HEARD ANY INITIAL SAFETY CONCERNS.
SO HAS THE SPEED BEEN, UH, DETERMINED YET? LIKE WHAT WOULD THAT BE? NOT AT THIS POINT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, NO.
AND THEN, UM, WILL THEY COME BACK WITH A SIGNAGE ABOUT THAT AS WELL TOO? LIKE, UH, OR IS THAT JUST A STREET, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ALL YEAH, WE WOULD DEAL, LIKE THE SIGN PACKAGE FOR THE BUILDING WOULD BE, YEAH.
COMING BACK TO YOU AT SOME LIKE A MASTER SIGN PLAN.
BUT TYPICALLY, LIKE ROADWAY SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKS AT.
AND THEN HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT THE, SO WE HAVE KIDS NOW WHO SEE THE BOULDERS AND THEY'RE GONNA JUMP ON THEM, PLAY WITH THEM, AND THAT'S GREAT.
UM, BUT THEN WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE CURB CUTS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT IN THIS AREA, HOW, HOW'S THAT SAFETY ASPECT, I GUESS? IS THERE A, AN AN INTENTION OF MOVING THEM FURTHER BACK? IS THERE, UM, ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, I, I CAN LET THE, UM, APPLICANT TEAM TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT AGAIN, ULTIMATELY THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING USED TO HELP DELINEATE THE STREET EDGE ESSENTIALLY.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY, AT LEAST FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING WHY THEY'RE LOCATED THERE, UM, YEAH, AGAIN, I I'M, BUT YOU ANTICIPATE KIDS PLAYING ON THEM, WOULD YOU? I MEAN, THEY ARE IN OTHER AREAS, I THINK.
I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY, YEAH, I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE.
I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THE, TO THE DRIVE AISLE AND THE ONES THAT, 'CAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY THAT ARE EMBEDDED MORE IN THE, THE LANDSCAPE.
WE, I MEAN, WE, WE STRUGGLED WITH IT A LITTLE BIT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
'CAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT YOU WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAINTAIN A CLEAR PATH THROUGH AND YOU DELINEATE THAT, DO WE START TO PUT LINES IN THE ROAD? RIGHT? BUT AS, AS SOON AS YOU START TO PUT LINES OR CURVE, I MEAN, EVEN JUST LITERAL LINES, IT STARTS TO LOOK LIKE A STREET.
AND THEN IF YOU TAKE THAT A STEP FURTHER AND YOU HAVE REGULAR PLANTING BEDS NEXT TO THOSE, OR REGULAR SIDEWALKS NEXT TO THOSE, AND IT REALLY STARTS TO LOOK LIKE A STREET MM-HMM
AND SO, UM, WE USED, WE USED THE BOULDERS, UM, THEIR PLACEMENT AND THEIR SHAPE IN, IN PARTICULAR TO MAKE SURE, LIKE IF IT'S SOUTHBOUND, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET HIT, THE BOULDER HAPPENS BEFORE YOU HIT, YOU KNOW, SAY THE, THE POLE.
SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS SMART AS WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE EVENT WE GET SOME IDIOT DRIVING THROUGH THERE MM-HMM
THAT, THAT WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE ALL THE PRECAUTIONS.
THE, UH, PARKING GARAGE, WOULD A METAL CLADDING ON THE CON THE EXPOSED CONCRETE ALLOW THE DEPTH TO SHINE THROUGH STILL WITH THE METAL CLADDING BEING AS THIN AS IT IS, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT HAVE? SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD TAKE THE, THE SHADOW FROM, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT WOULD THAT CHANGE? IT WOULD TAKE THE SHADOW LINE FROM SIX INCHES DOWN TO FOUR, BASICALLY.
SHOULD THE BOULDERS NOT WORK LIKE YOU WANT THEM TO JEFF SPACE TO GO BACK AND PUT IN CURBS WITH LANDSCAPE LIKE YOU HAVE ALONG THE OTHER AREAS WITHOUT THE BOULDER AREA? ASK THAT AGAIN.
SO ESPECIALLY IN THE ELBOW, IF THE BOULDERS AS A TRAFFIC DELINEATION DON'T WORK LIKE YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO, DO YOU HAVE THE ROAD WITH SPACE TO ADD IN PLANTERS LIKE YOU HAVE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BOULDERS? YES.
AND THEN ON THE CONDO BUILDING MM-HMM
UH, WHAT ELEVATION AM I OWN THE MAIN ENTRY PERSPECTIVE, WHATEVER ELEVATION THAT IS.
THIS ONE IN THE RECESSED VERTICAL, WITH THE FIVE SYMMETRICAL EQUAL WINDOWS STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, DID YOU ENTERTAIN A CAN CANTILEVER AWNING ON THAT VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR FIRST LEVEL, JUST BLACK, SIMPLE CANTILEVER AWNING? NO, I, I, I DIDN'T.
BUT, UH, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY GIVE SOME SHADOW AND SOME INTEREST TO THAT, TO THAT ELEMENT.
UM, I WAS VIEWING THAT ELEMENT AS MORE OF A, A, A SECONDARY ELEMENT AND, AND I DIDN'T WANT IT TO COMPETE WITH THE ONES ON EITHER SIDE OF IT.
MR. WADE, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, THE BOULDER ISSUE ALONG THE STREET IS, IS SOMETHING THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.
I MEAN, I, I LOVE THE IDEA, THE PRACTICALITY OF IT, THOUGH.
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HEARD STORIES OF OTHER QUESTIONS, ENVIRONMENTS YES.WHERE THEY SAID THE, UM, THE ROCKS WERE LIKE MAGNETS FOR CARS,
SO I, AGAIN, I THINK YOUR, YOUR POINT IS, IS THERE A BACKUP PLAN IF THE, IF THE BOULDERS TEND TO BE A, AN ISSUE.
AND, AND THE OTHER REASON WHY I THINK WE LANDED HERE WAS TO IT TO VISUALLY CALL ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN FRONT OF THE ACTUAL OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? AND SO THE IDEA THAT THEN THAT, THAT SPACE FEELS DIFFERENT, IT COULD ALSO BE POTENTIALLY USED DIFFERENT IN THINKING THROUGH LIKE THE, THE, THE PLACEMAKING AND ACTIVATIONS.
BUT I, I, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS, AS A TEAM INTERNALLY AS WELL.
WELL, YOU GUYS ARE NOW THE TEST CASE, SO WE'LL FIGURE OUT IF IT WORKS OR NOT.
UM, AND I HAD, I JUST, THIS IS A REAL DETAILED QUESTION, BUT IN THE, IN THE LEGEND, UM, RELATED TO THE PARK AND SWIMMING POOL, THERE'S A, A LETTER V AND IT'S ON THE WALL THAT'S, THAT HOLDS UP THE POOL THAT IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT V MEANS.
IT DO WE HAVE THE LEGEND
IS IT JUST HIGHLIGHTING WHAT THE WALL'S MADE OF THE RETAINING WALL? I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
ANYBODY HAVE A SET OF DRAWINGS? IS THERE A SHEET NUMBER YOU HAVE? 'CAUSE I HAVE THE TECHNICAL DRAWINGS OR ALL THE FULL SUBMISSION.
I GUESS THERE'S A LOT OF SHEETS HERE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, YEAH,
SO THAT WOULD BE MK SCAP GOT, UH, IT'S REFERRING TO SOME ELEVATION AND GRADE CHANGE THERE.
IT'S A RELATIVELY, UM, AMBIGUOUS AND NON-CLEAR, UM, LABEL NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT IT AND STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TRYING TO DEFEND IT.
I, I JUST WONDER IF IT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MATERIAL OF THE WALL.
YEAH, NO, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT AN ELEVATION CHANGE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, MS. PARKER? I JUST HAD A QUICK ONE WITH THE CITY PLEASE.
UM, WITH, UM, THE DUBLIN ARTS, UH, THAT THE ART WOULD GO TO, UM, DO THEY HAVE A TIMELINE? I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO SEE THEM OVER THE SUMMER OR, OR IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR THAT THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH? OR JUST KEEPING THINGS MOVING.
SO THEY HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING, UM, WHERE THEY CAN REVIEW ITEMS. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT COULD BE HANDLED IN A TIMELY FASHION FOR SURE.
ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, MR. DESLER? PROBABLY, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, KIM.
I SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED UP ON IT EARLIER.
BUT, UH, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DRAINAGE FROM THE OTHER BUILDINGS, NOT, CAN YOU GO, I KNOW WHO IT WAS THAT ASKED ABOUT, IT WAS SAYING THAT THE DRAINAGE AND I, WE CAN EVEN GO ON SOME OF OFF THE ROOF UNDERNEATH THE GROUND, IT'S GONNA BE IN, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THESE TANKS AGAIN? AND THEN WHERE IS THAT EXITING? I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, I, ON THAT ASPECT, CAN WE, FROM THE CITY SIDE, QUALITY QUANTITY, CAN WE HAVE WHAT STANDARDS FOR ANY APPLICATION COVERED? NOT JUST THIS ONE.
LET'S LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER FIRST, BUT IF WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE CITY TALKING ABOUT WATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY STANDARDS AND YOU'RE, YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED.
UH, SO YEAH, THE, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UH, PIPES, UM, THESE LARGE DIAMETER, UM, CORRUGATED METAL PIPES WILL BE LOCATED ESSENTIALLY WHERE IT SAYS OPEN SPACE AND THAT THE, THE LAWN AREA OF THE OPEN SPACE, THERE'S FIVE ROWS OF THEM.
UM, AND SO THEY'LL BE, UH, LOCATED THERE, LIKE I SAID, 11 FEET DEEP.
AND BECAUSE THEY ARE SO DEEP, UH, THE ROOF DRAINS FROM THE ENTIRE OFFICE BUILDING.
SO THE, THAT THOSE ROOF DRAINS FROM THAT ROOF WILL BE DIRECTED TO A STORM SEWER THAT GOES INTO, UH, THAT PIPE SYSTEM.
AND IT'S THE SAME FOR THE GARAGE AND THE, UH, BOTH CONDOMINIUMS, 'CAUSE THIS IS ALSO SIZED FOR THE FUTURE PHASE TWO CONDOMINIUM AS WELL.
SO ALL OF THE ROOF DRAINAGE FROM THOSE BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS ALL THE SURFACE DRAINAGE WITHIN GREEN STREET AND THE OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE, UH, PHASE ONE CONDOMINIUMS, ALL OF THAT GOES INTO A STORM SEWER THAT GOES INTO THESE PIPES WILL THEN BE CONTROLLED BY AN OUTLET CONTROL STRUCTURE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WATER QUALITY DEVICES BEFORE IT GOES INTO THAT UNDERGROUND, UH, SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE SOME OF THE, THE, THE WATER QUALITY CONTROLS WILL TAKE PLACE IS ON THE UPSTREAM END OF THAT BEFORE IT GOES INTO THAT, CLEANS THE WATER.
AND THEN, UH, YEAH, SO HERE'S THE DETAIL SHEET.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE OUTLET CONTROL STRUCTURE ON DETAIL ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UM, OF THE, THE PAGE THERE THAT'S LOCATED ON THE, THE
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LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.UM, AT STRUCTURE 1 0 2, WHICH IT'LL, SO IT'LL BE, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S CONTROLLING THE WATER.
UM, THERE'LL BE AN ORIFICE PLATE ON THE OUTLET PIPE.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT.
UM, DURING, UH, THE PRIVATE SITE IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING REVIEW WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY, THEY'LL REVIEW ALL OF OUR STORMWATER CALCULATIONS AND THAT SHOWS THE VOL, THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE FOR THE OHIO EPA PERMIT.
UH, AND IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR PACKAGE FOR THIS SUBMITTAL AS WELL.
UM, AS, AS A, YOU KNOW, THE FDP, BUT THE, THE DETAILED APPROVAL OF THAT HAPPENS, THE ENGINEERING WHERE THE, THE CITY ENGINEER ACTUALLY SIGNS THE PLAN, UM, APPROVING THAT, UH, DEVICE OR THAT THOSE CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING HAPPENS AT THAT PHASE.
I JUST REALIZED WE HAVEN'T SEEN MR. HENDERSHOT IN A WHILE, SO PLEASE PASS ALONG OUR HELLO? I, I WILL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ENGINEERING TO COVER THIS OR IF YOU WANNA COVER, I MEAN, I'LL JUST ANSWER GENERALLY AND IF YOU HAVE REAL SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, HEIDI CAN CHIME IN.
SO, YEAH, SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE QUALITY AND QUANTITY REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE STORAGE AND THE CLEANING OF THE WATER FOR LACK OF A BETTER, MY PLANNING WORDS.
AND THE WHO, THAT THIS BOARD TYPICALLY DOESN'T GO INTO THE DETAILS, BUT RATHER IT'S AN ENGINEERING REQUIREMENT ON CORRECT, YES.
THAT THE PRIVATE SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT GO THROUGH, UM, ENGINEERING AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS, THAT WILL BE HANDLED AND REVIEWED AS PART OF THAT.
MR. MR. HUNTER, I'LL BELIEVE YOU IN A MINUTE.
WHAT'S THAT? I SAID I'LL BELIEVE YOU IN A MINUTE.
I TOLD YOU I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
UM, THE, IN THE BRIDGE CREEK BRIDGE STREET CODE, IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, IN PARK, IN, UH, IN, IN THE CATEGORY PARK MM-HMM
UNDER OPEN SPACE TYPES, THAT PUBLIC ART IS ENCOURAGED.
AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO ANY KIND OF PUBLIC ART.
AND I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, THE CORNER OF BRIDGE PARK AVENUE AND DALE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT GATEWAY CORNER WOULD, MIGHT BE SOMETHING.
AND THEN THE OTHER WOULD BE LIKE THE, THE TERMINUS TO THAT.
A DA WALKWAY, YOU COME UP AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE WALL OR WHATEVER.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUBLIC ART OR YEAH.
WORKING WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL AND ALL THAT? WE ABSOLUTELY DO.
I I USED TO BE ON THE ARTS COUNCIL.
UM, UH, ANOTHER ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES TOOK MY PLACE ON IT.
UM, I, I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME ANYMORE.
UM, BUT WE, WE STILL CONTINUE TO BE VERY CLOSE TO THEM.
UM, I'VE, I'VE ALREADY, WE'VE, WE'VE SPOKEN TO AVA, UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES, UM, ABOUT THIS BLOCK IN PARTICULAR, THE FIRST BEING THE SCRIM, BUT WE'RE HAVING, HONESTLY, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH HER ABOUT MORE THAN JUST THIS BLOCK.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN START TO SEIZE.
ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALRIGHT.
UH, NOW WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO ANYONE HERE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING? NO, WE HAVE NOT.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UH, WE'LL NOW ENTER INTO DELIBERATION.
SO, UH, I WILL GO IN THE SAME ORDER AS I STARTED UNDERSTANDING.
WE ARE COVERING QUITE A FEW ITEMS THIS EVENING, SO WE WILL HANDLE THEM ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S A KIND OF A MASS OF ITEMS. I DON'T EXPECT EVERYONE TO GET EVERYTHING AND GET TO THE END AND, OH, YOU KNOW, I, I FORGOT SOMETHING.
YOU WILL HAVE SECONDARY OPPORTUNITY.
SO MR. GARVIN, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
YEAH, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE EASIER PART.
I HAD ALREADY SUPPORTED THE THROUGH STREET, SO I DO LIKE THE, UM, DESIGN THAT'S BEEN LANDED ON FOR THE, THE WARNOFF.
UM, THE GREEN SPACE FEELS A LITTLE TIGHT, SO I WAS GLAD THAT KIM ASKED ABOUT THAT.
I WAS GONNA MAKE THE SAME SUGGESTION THAT IT COULD USE MAYBE A LITTLE EXPANSION IN THE PHASE TWO OR THE HARTFORD FLAT SECTION.
SO I WANNA REITERATE THAT POINT.
UM, AND I DO MISS THE BOLDER COLORS IN A LOT OF THE PLACES, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND THE PRACTICAL REASONS BEHIND CHANGING THOSE.
UM, OH, ONE THING I DID WANNA MENTION, I ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT THE EXPOSED CONCRETE AS WELL.
UM, I THINK IT, UH, KIND OF ECHOES THE GARAGE ABOVE, UM, NORTH MARKET AND KIND OF BRINGS SOME OF THAT ELEMENT IN, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S EXCESSIVE.
UM, YEAH, AT THIS POINT I DON'T HAVE ANY
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OTHER POINTS TO BRING UP.MR. DESLER, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I, I DO LIKE THE, THE CHANGE TO MAKING THE, THE GREEN STREET GHOST GO SOUTH.
AND IT'S ONE WAY, UM, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE THE OPENING.
UH, I AGREE THAT THE EAST ENTRANCE IS WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA USE IT.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES.
I WISH WE WOULD, UH, THE BOLD COLORS ON THE, THE OUTSIDE OF THOSE BUILDINGS SEEM FUN.
PRACTICALITY, THOUGH, UH, FROM A SALES PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE NOT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL DEFER TO THE EXPERTS ON, ON THAT.
UM, BUT AS IT STANDS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE OTHER, EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, ALL THE, ALL THE WAIVERS AND THE CONDITIONS.
THE ONLY THING WOULD BE, AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION, IS THAT DO, DO WE HAVE TO REQUIRE ANYTHING WITH IT BEING A PRIVATE STREET SIGNAGE NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED.
I THINK IN CERTAIN INSTANCES THE, THE OBLIGATIONS ARE DIFFERENT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAYBE HAVE SOME KIND OF CONDITION ON THERE THAT THE CITY IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE WAY, THE WAY THAT ONE WAY IS ARTICULATED, UH, IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
I THINK SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD ON THAT.
CAN I ASK CLARIFICATION WHAT YOU MEAN THERE FOR SIGNAGE? ARE YOU TALKING WELL, I DON'T THINK TRAFFIC FIGHTING, I'M ONLY GOING ON THIS, IS THAT, I MEAN, CERTAIN PLACES WHERE THERE ARE PRIVATE STREETS, THERE ISN'T THERE OBLIGATIONS OF CERTAIN TRAFFIC SIGNS DON'T EXIST.
MAYBE WE CAN GET CLARIFICATION.
IS THAT RIGHT? WRONG? I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN HERE.
UH, MEMBERS OF PLANNING ITS OWN NAME, TINA WASCO, WITH THE DIVISION OF TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY PER THE OHIO MANUAL UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, THE PRIVATE, UM, ENTITY IS REQUIRED TO USE THE SAME STANDARDS AS THE STATE.
IT WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MANUFACTURE, FABRICATE, AND INSTALL THE SIGNS, BUT THEY SHOULD FOLLOW ALL THE SAME LIKE TRAFFIC RULES AS THE STATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE FOLLOW IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
OKAY, WELL, I GUESS THEN THAT REDUCES THE NEED FOR THAT TYPE OF CONDITION, SO, OKAY.
UM, I THINK I, I, THE SITE PLAN I THINK IS VERY GOOD AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE GARAGE, EVEN IF, IF THE CONCRETE'S EXPOSED.
I THINK PARKING GARAGES ARE HARD TO DEAL WITH.
UM, UNLESS YOU'RE BUILDING PROGRAM NEXT TO IT, I, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD APPROACH TO THE PARKING GARAGE.
THE, UM, BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE WAIVERS FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING BECAUSE I THINK THE, THE FACADE, THE ELEVATIONS ARE, UM, ARE NOT UNIFIED.
I'LL BE KIND AND, AND I THINK THE CONDO BUILDING IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN HAVE VARIATION, BUT UNIFY ELEVATIONS.
THE CONDO BUILDING USES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE VARIETY ON THAT BUILDING, BUT IT USES ONE INCREMENT A WINDOW, AND THAT WINDOW CHANGES.
SOMETIMES THERE'S ONE, SOMETIMES THERE'S TWO, SOMETIMES THERE'S THREE.
BUT THAT CREATES A RHYTHM AND CREATES CONTINUITY ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT MATERIALS.
THE CONDO BUILDING ALSO USES, WE TALK ABOUT HIERARCHY ON ELEVATIONS.
EVERY ELEVATION HAS A LARGE SURFACE THAT'S DOMINATED BY THE TAN COLOR DRAWS YOUR EYE, ORGANIZES THE ELEVATION THERE.
AND IT'S HARDER TO DO IN A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAN AN OFFICE BUILDING.
AN OFFICE BUILDING IS UNDIFFERENTIATED SPACE.
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ON THE ELEVATIONS OF AN OFFICE BUILDING, A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
YOU HAVE ALL THE VARIATIONS IN THE UNITS THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND THERE'S VERY CLEAR HIERARCHY IN THIS.
THERE'S CLEAR PRIMARY ELEMENT ON EACH ELEVATION.
THERE'S VARIATION ON EACH ELEVATION BASED ON THE CONDITIONS, BUT THERE'S ENOUGH CONTINUITY THAT TIES IT TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY THINK IS LACKING ON THE OFFICE BUILDING.
AND FOR ME, IT IS SO FOREIGN TO BUILDINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN DESIGNED OTHER PLACES.
A LOT OF DEVELOPERS, AND I THINK OF IN LONDON, THE SHARD, THE GERKIN, THE, UM, THERE'S A BUILDING THEY CALL THE WALKIE-TALKIE BUILDING, LIPSTICK BUILDING IN NEW YORK, BLUE WHALE.
THERE'S AN IMAGE THAT THE BUILDING HAS THAT'S CONTINUITY, AND THE DEVELOPER USES THAT IMAGE THAT THE BUILDING CREATES.
IT'S A UNIFIED IMAGE TO MARKET THE LOCATION.
AND PEOPLE KNOW I'M WORKING IN X BUILDING.
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AND WE EVEN SEE THAT LOCALLY HERE IN TOWN.AND EVEN THE HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS LIKE THE LEVEQUE, THE ONES, THE LOWER PORTION OF LEVEQUE, HAS VERY SIMILAR ELEVATIONS.
A TALLER PORTION KEY BANK BUILDING.
THINK OF BUILDINGS, SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT HAVE A FRONT ELEVATION THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT GOES FROM THAT FRONT ELEVATION TO THE OTHER ELEVATIONS.
I ALSO THINK I REALLY QUESTION THE WAY MAYBE THE COUNCIL SEES IT, BUT I, I REALLY THINK THE AUTHOR OF 80% PRIMARY MATERIALS MEANS CONTINUITY ON THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IT'S BEING, JUST KNOWING WHY YOU WOULD WRITE THE CODE THAT WAY.
SO I HAVE REAL DIFFICULTY WITH THE APPEARANCE, NOT THE WAY THE LOCATIONS ARE NOT WHERE THE, WHERE YOU ENTER, NOT THE ORGANIZATION, NOT WHERE THE BALCONY IS.
THAT ALL MAKES SENSE, BUT IT'S JUST, I I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT A UNIFIED COMPOSITION.
CAN WE DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT? SO I'M LOOKING AT THE SOUTH ELEVATION, WHICH TO ME LOOKS VERY, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR, RIGHT? AND IT WRAPS AROUND TO THE WEST, RIGHT? THAT SEEMS VERY TIED TOGETHER.
AND, BUT THEN THE CORNER IS HIGHLIGHTED, WHICH IS I THINK IS OKAY, BUT, BUT THE, BUT THEN YOU COME AROUND AND IT DOES THEN CHANGE AGAIN.
BUT THE, THE CENTER PART OF THE NORTH ELEVATION, BUT THE, THE GRID ON THE SOUTH CHANGES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MATERIALS, THAT GRID CHANGES THREE TIMES.
IT'S A BLACK GRID AND THEN IT'S A, IT'S A LIGHT GRAY GRID.
UM, IT'S A BLACK AND BROWN GRID.
SO THAT GRID THAT ORGANIZES THE FENESTRATION IS, IS CHANGING.
SO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, CONTINUITY OR HIERARCHY, THOSE SECTIONS ARE ALL EQUAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I AM HERE AGAIN, IT DOESN'T DO IT FOR ME.
S SO LET'S DO THIS, LET'S CONTINUE ON WITH DELIBERATION.
UM, UH, MR. ALEXANDER, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO NO, EVERYTHING ELSE, LIKE, I, I THINK THAT THE PLAN, THE OVERALL SITE PLAN IS, IS GREAT.
ALRIGHT, MR. WADE, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH YOU AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS AFTER.
UM, I'M, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE OVERALL PLAN.
UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE WOOER.
I HAVE HUGE TREPIDATIONS ABOUT ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITH IT.
AND I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S AN EXPERIMENT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE BOULDERS ARE WORRYING TO ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT DRIVE AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ABILITIES AND FOR THEM TO NAVIGATE THROUGH BOULDERS THAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
UM, I LOVE THE APPROACH TO PAVING, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE, THE PAVING THE SAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
UM, I HAVE SOME TREPIDATIONS ABOUT, UM, WHAT'S SHOWN HERE IS A SERIES OF GRAY, GRAY PAVING COLORS.
AND WHAT DOES CAR WEAR TIRE WEAR HAVE ON THAT OVER TIME, IF IT WAS DARKER, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT AS MUCH, BUT IF IT'S LIGHTER CONCRETE PAVING, YOU MIGHT SEE A LOT MORE TIRE MARKS, OIL STAINS, ALL THAT STUFF.
SO THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, I LOVE THE WHOLE CONCEPT.
I WANT TO, AND, AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC PART OF IT.
UM, I SPENT SOME TIME LOOKING AT OTHER WOUNDERS AROUND THE WORLD AND A LOT OF THEM ARE REALLY MORE ABOUT PEDESTRIAN BICYCLES AND CARS ARE REALLY SECONDARY.
UM, AND THIS, WE'RE RELYING, YOU KNOW, THIS ROAD IS ACCESS TO THE GARAGE IF YOU COME IN FROM THE NORTH, UM, OR YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO IT MIGHT GET MORE TRAFFIC THAN YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE IN A WOUNDER OF OTHER PLACES.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A A, IT'S, IT'S A WONDERFUL CONCEPT AND I, I'M HOPING IT WORKS REALLY WELL BECAUSE I THINK IT SETS A, A STANDARD FOR THE CITY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S, AGAIN, VERY SUPPORTIVE.
UM, AGAIN, THE ADDITION OF PUBLIC ART, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER DETAILS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THE BENCHES ALONG THE A DA PATH AT 5% SLOPE.
THANK YOU MS. HER, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING CLOSELY WITH STAFF AND SO FORTH THROUGH THIS TIME.
I AGREE WITH MY, UH, COLLEAGUES AND THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR THOUGHTS AND SO FORTH.
BUT, UM, AND ALSO WITH MR. ALEXANDRA, I'M GLAD WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, I DO THINK THAT I'M FINE WITH THE EXPOSED, UH, CONCRETE.
UH, AND THANK YOU FOR THE GARAGE.
BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE BOULDERS, I HAVE A BIT OF A CONCERN WITH THAT.
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YOU KNOW, IT'S, THESE ARE NOT PLAY EQUIPMENT, IT DOESN'T HAVE SAFETY STANDARDS, THINGS OF THAT SORT.AND I HOPE THAT WE, UM, THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT.
I LIKE THE CURVE ABILITY AND THE WALKABILITY AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, UM, IMPORTANT.
I ALSO THINK ABOUT THE BOULDERS AT NIGHT AND HOW THE LIGHT UP THAT AREA.
I'M ALSO, UM, THE ONE THING NOT MENTIONED TOO IS, UH, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF LIGHTS ON THE BUILDINGS AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS, ABOUT LIKE COMING TO HOW, HOW DOES THAT ALL COME TOGETHER? UM, 'CAUSE YOU WANT THAT BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE AT NIGHT.
BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S, UH, COMMENTS.
UM, MY, MY COMMENTS WILL BE HOPEFULLY SHORT.
UH, I ALSO THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.
UH, AND THANK YOU FOR PERSEVERING WITH US.
ESPECIALLY WE HAVE CHANGES IN COMMISSION ALL THE TIME.
AND SO DIFFERENT FACES CREATE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
I WONDER IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA WORK AS WELL AS WE WANT THEM TO WORK.
I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT IN TRYING TO CONNECT THE, THE BELT THROUGH THE SITE ON THE TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRUSTING THAN WE OUGHT TO BE WITH, UH, DRIVERS AND NON-DRIVERS IN THAT AREA.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, I, I FEEL LIKE THAT VERTICAL THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, WITH THE FIVE WINDOWS STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, IT LOOKS A LITTLE NAKED TO ME.
AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN ADD THOSE CANTILEVER AWNINGS OR SOMETHING ELSE, I'M NOT DICTATING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO GO THERE.
IT JUST, ON THAT CONDO BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY NEED TO BE SOMETHING I, I APPRECIATE, UM, KIND OF THE QUIETNESS OF SOME AREAS, BUT THAT ONE I FEEL LIKE ALMOST GOT LEFT OUT.
UM, AND THEN I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE THAT IS, OH, IT'S THE EXTENSION OF THE BOULDERS.
UH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE THAT IF THE BOULDERS DON'T WORK OUT, THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT, UM, MEDIUM TYPE PLANTERS IN THERE TO MATCH.
AND I LIKE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT CARBON COPIES OF EACH OTHER, RIGHT? THEY HAVE THEIR OWN IDENTITIES, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN GIVE AND TAKE ALONG THAT EDGE, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE LEAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THOSE SHOULD THE BOULDERS NOT WORK OUT.
SO I DO WANNA GO BACK TO THE, UH, OFFICE, THE MIXED USE BUILDING RATHER.
AND FOR MY OWN BENEFIT, WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M PULLING THE FOUR PAGES SO THAT I CAN LOOK AT THEM SIDE BY SIDE RATHER THAN STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
TO ILLUSTRATE THIS PARTICULAR POINT, OUR EYES ARE GOOD, BUT REMEMBERING COLORS AND ARTICULATIONS AS SCREENS FLIP BACK AND FORTH.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR BRAINS, BUT MY BRAIN IS NOT VERY GOOD AT THAT.
MR. DESLER, DID YOU HAVE, YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, I WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW THIS WAS YOUR POINT.
UH, IS IT THE ONE THING THAT YOU COULDN'T REMEMBER, MAYBE YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT IT, BUT SOME METAL PANELING ON THE GARAGE? ON THE GARAGE, YES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS WHAT YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS.
UM, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE 'CAUSE HE, I, I DIDN'T SPEAK TO IT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN MY NOTES FOR CONDITIONS TO SEE IF WE COULD ADD IT TO THE, UH, WHERE IS IT? UH, NUMBER EIGHT WHERE IT SAYS THE APPLICANT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS OF THE GARAGE BUILDING.
AND SO I DON'T WANNA DICTATE THAT IT HAS TO BE A MIDDLE CLA, BUT I DO WANNA LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO THAT'S IN MY NOTES FOR THE CONDITIONS FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
AND I HAVE, JUST FOR AWARENESS, I HAVE ON NUMBER SEVEN, THE RECESSED WINDOW AWNING TREATMENT OR SOMETHING ELSE.
AND NUMBER ONE, THE ADD GREEN STREET WITH CONSIDERATION OF THE BOULDERS.
SO DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO CONSIDER ADDING TWO CONDITIONS BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE LAST ITEM? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, THEN LOOKING AT THE LAST ITEM AND, UM, MR. ALEXANDER, I'M GONNA RESTATE AND THEN YOU CORRECT ME WHERE I GET IT WRONG.
ASSUMING THAT I'M AT LEAST GONNA GET ONE PIECE IN THE FORESIGHT ARCHITECTURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR MIXED JUICE BUILDING, UM, THE, THE COMMENTARY WAS THERE IS NOT A COHESIVE IDENTITY BETWEEN THE FORE SIDES THAT CARRIES THROUGH THE FOUR SIDES.
TYING IT TOGETHER AS ONE WHOLE, NOT DICTATING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CARBON COPY ON EACH FOUR SIDES, BUT SOME ELEMENT THAT ALLOWS THE SKELETON OF
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THE BUILDING, THE SKELETON OF THE DESIGN TO BE COHESIVE ACROSS THOSE FOUR SIDES.DID I INTERPRET THAT? AT LEAST IN LAYMAN'S TERMS? VERY GOOD.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN, UH, PULLING THE, THE FOUR IMAGES UP, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET THAT ARE, UH, NOTED IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, 0 0 4, A FOUR, EXCUSE ME, 0 0 3 A 3 0 0 4 A 4 0 0 5, A FIVE AND 0 0 6 A SIX, UH, I BELIEVE YOU CAN SEE WHAT MR. ALEXANDER IS TALKING ABOUT IN 0 0 5 A FIVE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SKELETON OF THAT, YOU SEE THE GRID ON THE VAST MAJORITY AS THE DARK GRAY OR BLACK GRID WITH SOME HEADERS THAT ARE IN THE COPPERY COLOR.
AND THE KIND OF ANTITHESIS OF THAT IS THE 0 0 3 A THREE WITH THE GRAY GRID, THE LIGHT GRAY GRID WITH THE COPPER ACCENTS.
BUT THE, THE SKELETON CORE APPEARS TO KIND OF HAVE FLIPPED AND LEFT THE BUILDING.
IF I CAN USE SOME LIBERTIES THERE.
THE OTHER 2 0 0 6 AND 0 0 4, 0 0 4 HAS BOTH ELEMENTS.
HAS THE GRAY SKELETON, HAS THE DARK SKELETON WITH A LITTLE BIT OF THE COPPER COLOR.
0 0 6 HAS A LOT OF COPPER SKELETON WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GRAY, DARK GRAY SKELETON.
DID I KIND OF ILLUSTRATE THAT VERBALLY WHAT YOU WERE SEEING YOU DID VISUALLY, YOU COULD TAKE IT FURTHER AND LOOK AT THE PATTERNS OF THE, OF THE WINDOWS TOO.
AND EVEN ON THAT SOUTH ELEVATION WHERE THERE'S THE GRID, IT CHANGES CHARACTER THREE TIMES.
IT, IT'S, IT'S ALL BLACK, THEN IT'S BLACK AND COPPERY, THEN IT'S LIGHT GRAY AND COPPERY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S CHANGING AS IT'S MOVING AND MOVING FROM ONE CORNER TO THE OTHER.
AND, AND SO, AND THE FENESTRATION FLIPS, I, I AT LEAST THERE THE FENESTRATIONS SIMILAR, IT JUST IS REVERSED AT THE ENTRY, BUT THEN THAT KIND OF FENESTRATION PATTERN DOESN'T CONTINUE ELSEWHERE.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR THOUGHTS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
WE'RE KIND OF GONNA DO STRAW POLL.
HEY, IF, IF MR. ALEXANDER IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS AN ISSUE, THEN WE CAN MAKE NOTE AND, AND VERIFY THAT IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO CONTINUE TO KIND OF VOICE, I IMAGINE THAT THE APPLICANT ALSO WILL HAVE SOME, SOME, UM, CLARIFICATIONS, SOME YES.
SO, UH, STR FULL JUST ON SUPPORTIVE OF THE LAYOUT OR THE DESIGN I SHOULD SAY, AS IT IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION.
CAN CAN I ADD A COMMENT TO JUST FOR THE DELIBERATION IS THAT THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS BUILDING.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT GARY MONOLITHIC AND TRYING TO FOLLOW THE CODE.
I GET THE KIND OF THE SPIRIT OF THE CODE.
THE OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS IS THERE'S A BUILDING THAT FRONTS ONTO THE STREET AND THERE'S A BUILDING THAT FRONTS ONTO A PARK.
AND THEY COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPRESSION BECAUSE THEY'RE, THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY'RE FRAMING IS DIFFERENT.
BUT YOU COULD DO, AND, AND IF I COULD ADD ONE THING TO THAT, IT'S ALSO A BUILDING THAT HAS MULTIPLE IDENTITIES BECAUSE IT'S A MIXED USE BUILDING, BUT YOU CAN DO BOTH.
YOU CAN DO DO ALL OF THE, YOU CAN DO THOSE THINGS AND STILL INTEGRATE.
AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP POINTING TO, 'CAUSE I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT THIS RESIDENTIAL ELEVATION, THERE'S SOME OF THE BEST ELEVATIONS I'VE SEEN POTENTIALLY IN BRIDGE PARK BECAUSE THAT ELEVATION CHANGES AS THE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE FOR THE UNITS.
AND SO IT'S ADDRESSING DIFFERENT UNIT TYPES AND DIFFERENT UNIT CONDITIONS.
THE WINDOWS EVEN CHANGE, BUT THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY ABOUT THE WINDOWS.
SO I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING KIM, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME WAY OF CREATING GREATER UNITY IN THIS BUILDING.
AND, AND AGAIN, I, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I MEAN, THE GRAY TO ME IS THE THING THAT'S TRYING TO WEAVE ITS WAY AROUND THE BUILDING IN DIFFERENT WAYS, RIGHT? CLARIFICATION, THE DARK GRAY OR THE LIGHT GRAY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT COLOR ON EVERY SCREEN.
THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS GUY, THIS GRAY.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE VERTICAL ELEMENTS ON THE SOUTH AND WRAPPING TO THE OR ON THE WEST, WRAPPING TO THE SOUTH, IT'S ON THE MAIN FEATURE CORNER FEATURE.
AND THEN IT PLAYS INTO THE FACADE AND THEN IT COMES AROUND ON THE OTHER SIDE.
NOT, YEAH, IT COMES AROUND TO THE, THE EAST SIDE, UH, IN THE BUILDING ENTRY PIECE.
SO IT'S, IT, THERE'S AN INTERESTING WAY THAT IT'S ALL THREE MATERIALS ARE KIND OF WEAVING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING.
AND I'M JUST, THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.
SO, UH, I DO WANT STR POLL ON,
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YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, UM, MS. HARDER WILL GO YOU FIRST.MAY I ASK OR DO YOU? UM, I, I'M NOT READY TO I THINK WAVE FROM IT, BUT I DEFINITELY HEAR THIS.
UM, I ALSO THINK ABOUT OFFICE BUILDINGS IN GENERAL.
THEY ALL, IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING AND DOES THAT, ARE WE AT A PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE AN OFFICE AND THAT IT HAS A DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT SWAY TO IT? AND IS THAT WHERE WE'RE GOING HERE IN THIS, IN THIS AREA AS WELL TOO? SO, UM, IF IT IS THAT, UH, IT'S AN OFFICE AND, AND IT HAS, IT HAS CAPABILITY OF THAT, THEN IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD LOOK KIND OF LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.
UM, BUT TODAY I WOULD SAY I SEE THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF CHANGE OF EACH ONE.
SO I WOULD PROBABLY RIGHT NOW SAY THAT KEEPING IT THE SAME IS PROBABLY WHERE I'M HEADING CLARIFICATION, KEEPING IT THE SAME AS IT IS IN THE PACKET TODAY.
MR. WE, I, AGAIN, I WOULD BE REPEATING MYSELF.
I THINK THERE'S A PLAYFULNESS TO THE WAY THE COLORS WORK AROUND THE BUILDING AND, AND HAVE A DIFFERENT EMPHASIS AND PROMINENCE ON DIFFERENT SIDES.
MR. UH, MR. ALEXANDER, DO YOU WANNA RESTATE? I THINK THAT, NO, I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE OR STRONG ARM
I THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK GOOD AS IS.
SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF HOW, HOW IT'S PRESENTED.
MR. GARVIN, I AGREE WITH GARY'S PREMISE THAT IT IS ISN'T CONSISTENT.
I THINK A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS WHO REFERENCED ARE MORE KIND OF ICONIC PLACEMAKING BUILDINGS.
AND IN THIS CASE, TO YOUR POINT, SCOTT, VARIOUS USES.
I LIKE THE REPEATING ELEMENT OF THE COLORS.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE FENESTRATION ISS NOT ALL THE SAME, IT DOES REPEAT ELEMENTS.
AND I CAN COUNT TO FOUR SO
IT'S DELIBERATION TIME PERIOD AND THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL.
SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET WHAT YOU WANTED TO EXPRESS FIRST TIME ROUND, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY JUST I INDICATE.
UM, I, I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE, THE COLORS.
I DO WISH THAT THE, UM, PARKING GARAGE HAD SOMETHING ON THE CONCRETE, WHETHER THAT'S A METAL CLAD MATERIAL, SOMETHING THAT COVERS UP.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT THAT RIBBON OF CONCRETE IS SHOWING THROUGH.
IT'S A PRETTY WIDE SWATH AND A PRETTY PROMINENT POSITION.
SO I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DRESSING IT UP A LITTLE.
BUT AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, THE, THE ONE SIDE THAT IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS THE ONE THAT I, I STRUGGLED WITH.
I DIDN'T NOTICE LIKE MR. ALEXANDER, THE, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FOUR SIDES.
I DID NOTICE THAT THE SAME ELEMENTS WERE REPEATED JUST IN DIFFERENT FASHION.
BUT THE SOUTH ELEVATION TO ME WAS A A, A LITTLE ON THE BLAND SIDE OR A LITTLE ON THE REPETITIVE SIDE.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NO, UH, THE MIXED USE.
OH, THE MIXED USE, SORRY, I JUMPED FROM THE CORNER CONCRETE TO THE MIXED USE BUILDING.
SO THAT SIDE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE FROM THIS ANGLE, BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING, THEN YOU CAN SEE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FLAT PLANE, YOU HAVE THE GRAY ON THE VERY CORNER, BUT THAT DOESN'T LIVE VERY LONG.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A WIDE SWATH OF THE SAME, THE SAME, THE SAME, THE SAME, THE SAME.
WHEREAS LIKE THE CONDO BUILDING, YOU HAVE THAT PLAY, YOU HAVE THE ARTICULATION, YOU HAVE THE SHADOWING, YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT.
THIS ONE YOU DO A GREAT JOB WITH THE LIGHTING IN THE CORNER, EVEN WITH THE EVERY OTHER COLUMN KIND OF THAT OFFSET IN THE CORNER.
BUT EVEN THE LIGHTING ON THE LONG STRETCH GETS LOST.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S EVERY OTHER, BUT IT'S SUCH A TINY ELEMENT THAT IT'S JUST COPY, REPEAT, COPY, REPEAT, COPY, REPEAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY HESITATION ON THE, ON THE MIXED USE BUILDING.
BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THE, THE PERSPECTIVE, UH, ON THE PRIMARY MATERIALS.
YOU KNOW, I, I WASN'T HERE FOR A BLOCK.
I TRIED TO FIND IT AND I COULDN'T FIND THE COUNT OF WAIVERS.
I WAS HERE FOR G BLOCK AND SO THAT'S THE ONE
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THAT STUCK IN MY BRAIN.UM, BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, THE FORM-BASED CODE.
I WAS PREVIOUS LIFE CITY COUNCIL, WE DID FORM-BASED CODE.
IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS AND SOMETIMES YOU MESS UP OUR FIRST PARKING GARAGE, I THINK WE MESSED UP.
BUT WE LEARN FROM THOSE MISTAKES, WE INTRODUCE THEM INTO THE CODE, WE REFERENCE THEM WITH FUTURE WAIVERS AND WE DON'T MESS UP AGAIN.
AND HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY WE GO BACK AND FIX OUR MESS UP.
UH, BUT FOR THAT I WILL, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? WE HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR IT.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A MESS UP.
BUT THE PARKING GARAGE, I, I THINK THAT WE ALL AGREE.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, ANY FINAL DELIBERATION ON WHAT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THESE CASES.
I'M GONNA BE ASKING FOR A MOTION FOR ANY FINAL DELIBERATION.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE WILL TAKE THESE IN TURN AND UM, IT LOOKS LIKE YOURS, UH, THE ONES THAT YOU, MR. ALEXANDER IS MOTION NUMBER TWO THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE, UH, FACADE MATERIAL TRANSITION, THE FACADE DIVISIONS, THOSE.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANT.
ALRIGHT, SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR AND MAKING SURE THAT I HAVE MY COMMENTS HERE.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF TWO ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES.
I'LL MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTURES.
'CAUSE HE'S ALSO PERTAINED, I BELIEVE, TO THE OFFICE BUILDING.
MY MICROPHONE WAS OFF, SO YES.
UH, NUMBER TWO IS THE APPROVAL OF 12 WAIVERS.
17 WAIVERS AND I'M MAKING SURE I DON'T HAVE ANY.
UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR, UH, THE, UH, APPROVAL OF 17 WAIVERS.
MR. GARVIN? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, LOOK TO SEE IF THE, UM, COMMISSION IS ACCEPTING OF MODIFICATIONS TO NUMBER ONE TO ADD GREEN STREET.
IT, IT READS, THE APPLICANT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE FINAL STREET SCAPE DESIGN OF BRIDGE PARK AVENUE, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL.
I'D LIKE TO AMEND THAT TO SAY, UH, FINAL STREET SCAPE DESIGN OF BRIDGE PARK AVENUE AND GREEN STREET, ESPECIALLY WITH CONSIDERATION TO OF THE BOULDERS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL.
IS THE COMMISSION SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MODIFICATION? I HAVE A I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE, IF FOR SOME REASON THE STAFF DOESN'T LIKE THE BOULDERS OR THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT THEY CAN SAY NO? HOW DOES THAT WORK? UH, SO IF STAFF IS COMFORTABLE UNDERSTANDING THE COMMISSION DELIBERATION TONIGHT, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE NOT A HARD AND FAST NO BOULDERS, BUT HEY, WE'D REALLY LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
IF THEY'RE COMFORTABLE SAYING YES, THEN THEY COULD SAY YES.
IF THEY'RE COMFORTABLE SAYING NO, THEY COULD SAY NO.
IF THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE, THEY WOULD BRING IT BACK.
MS. ROUSH, CAN YOU ADD ANY CLARIFICATION THERE? YEAH, I THAT WE WOULD BRING, LIKE IF, TO REBECCA'S POINT, IF WE SAID NO AND THE APPLICANT STILL WANTED TO PURSUE IT 'CAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THEY COULD MAKE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT, THEN YES, THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.
OTHERWISE WE COULD APPROVE IT BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND YOU CAN'T BUY A BOULDER OFF A SHELF.
SO EVERY BOULDER'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT.
IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE FIELD PLACE BOULDERS, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FINAL DESIGN.
YOU CAN'T DRAW IT THE WAY IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE.
NO, WHAT I MEAN IS I WANT, I DON'T WANT THEM TO, I LIKE THE BOULDERS AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE
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NOT GONNA ATTEMPT TO, TO GO FOR A BOULDER.NO, I, I THINK THAT SO LONG AS THE BOULDERS MAKE MEET THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, SO LONG AS THE BOULDERS, UH, STAFF FEELS THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING IS FINE WITH IT, PUBLIC SAFETY IS FINE WITH IT.
THEY'LL WORK WITH THEM TO MEET THE BOULDERS.
AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEN THEY WILL SAY, THEN I'M GOOD HAVING THAT AS THE CONDITION.
I DON'T NEED IT ADDED, BUT WON'T CHANGE MY VOTE.
AND THEN I'D LIKE TO ALSO PROPOSE NUMBER SEVEN, UM, GET UPDATED TO, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT PROVIDES THE WINDOW DETAILS, INCLUDING TREATMENTS.
I DON'T WANNA DICTATE AWNINGS, RIGHT.
IT JUST, TO ME IT LOOKS A LITTLE BLAND.
SO IS THE COMMISSION SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, THE APPLICANT PROVIDES WINDOW DETAILS AND TREATMENTS AND WALL SECTIONS OF THE CONDOM CONDOMINIUM BUILDING WITH THE SUBMITTAL OF BUILDING PERMITS.
NOW THE REST OF THAT SENTENCE DOES GIVE MY KEEPER OF THE COMMA, UM, SIDE OF MY BRAIN A LITTLE ANGST BECAUSE IT SAYS TO ASSURE I WOULD LIKE AND TO ASSURE, SINCE THOSE ARE NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED.
BUT I, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M GETTING, BECAUSE I DID, I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE NEED THE WINDOW DETAILS AND WALL SECTIONS FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING.
WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT IS ON THAT NORTHERN ELEVATION.
I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS MEETS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT I WAS ADDRESSING.
CAN THE COMMISSION PLEASE REVIEW NUMBER SEVEN AND SEE IF I CAN GET FOREHEAD NODS? I HAVE FIVE.
AND THEN FINALLY ON THE NUMBER EIGHT, THE APPLICANT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE BUILDING, INCLUDING THE EXPOSED CONCRETE, UH, TO ADDRESS.
OKAY, SO THOSE ARE MY CHANGES, MY PROPOSED CHANGES.
IS THE COMMISSION ACCEPTING OF THAT MODIFICATION ON NUMBER EIGHT? SO I THINK IT'S NOT CLEAR, IS IT JUST AS TO ADDRESS THE EXPOSED CONCRETE? DOES THAT MEAN TO HIDE IT?
I, MY INTENT BEHIND THAT WAS WE WOULD CLAD, MAYBE THAT'S THE BETTER WORD.
YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO SAY TO INCLUDE ADDRESSING THE EXPOSED CONCRETE.
I THINK BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE IT READS JUST YOU'RE LIMITING IT TO JUST THAT EXPOSED CONCRETE.
IN REALITY, WE WANT THEM TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS IN THAT GARAGE.
THE GARAGE, IT'S JUST THE CORNER, THE GARAGE.
IT'S JUST THE EXPOSED CONCRETE IN THAT, IN ENTRANCE, THAT VERTICAL CORNER OF THE GARAGE.
SO THE LITTLE, SO THAT'S THE ONLY PART THAT YOU WANT FIXED? YEAH, THE, THE LITTLE RIBBONS IN BETWEEN THAT YOU CAN ALMOST NOT SEE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SHADOW CASTING.
I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THOSE PERSONALLY.
I DON'T HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE CONCRETE.
I DON'T HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE CONCRETE EITHER.
IF WE CAN GET TO FOUR THERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED IT ADDED.
NO, I DON'T HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE CONCRETE.
I'M, I'M, NO, I DON'T I THINK IT'S THE FIVE OF US ARE OKAY WITH THE CONCRETE AS IT IS.
WE CAN GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION ON NUMBER EIGHT.
IF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE WAY THE GARAGE IS PROPOSED, THEN WE DON'T NEED THIS CONDITION AT ALL, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM EVERYBODY.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I HEARD AS WELL.
SO WE CAN, SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.
DO WE NEED ANYTHING RELATIVE TO THE UH, THE CODA INTEGRATION PIECE? BECAUSE THAT DEALT WITH, THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE ENTRANCE WAS.
THAT'S WHAT THE CITY TALKED ABOUT.
YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET BECAUSE THAT'S STILL GONNA BE WORKED OUT.
THEY MAY ALLOW THE TENANT TO HAVE THE, I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AS THAT COMES FORWARD AND IF THAT DOESN'T MEET THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PIECE OF THAT, THAT ALL LIKELIHOOD PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK ANYWAY.
SO, BUT, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, IF CODA STRUCK IT RICH AND BOUGHT THEIR OWN BUILDING AND BUILT THEIR OWN THING TOMORROW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, THE WAY THAT WE ARE SEEING IT TONIGHT, STANDS ON ITS OWN TWO FEET.
SO IF CODA NEVER BUILDS HERE, IS THE COMMISSION ACCEPTING OF THE WAY THAT THAT PARTICULAR ENTRANCE LOOKS TODAY, THE WAY THAT THE CURB CUTS ARE TODAY? THAT SORT OF THING? I AM OKAY.
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE 'EM WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT PIECE IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT CODE IS NOT GONNA BE THERE AND THEN THE WAY IS
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CURRENTLY PRESENTED AND CONSTITUTED, I'D LIKE TO, I THINK THEY NEED TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT ASPECT.WHAT, WHAT IN PARTICULAR THE ENTRANCES, WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE AN AWNING OR NOT, HOW THEY'RE GONNA COME IN? I THINK RIGHT NOW IT WAS, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT HAPHAZARDLY, BUT THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE CHANGES TO THAT INTEGRATION.
ESPECIALLY ON THE, THAT ONE CORNER WHERE THERE WAS BELIEVED TO BE WHERE THAT CODA STOP WAS.
SO, SO, SO WITH THAT COMMENT, THAT'S ME THOUGH, THAT'S ONE WITH THAT COMMENT.
LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT MOST OF YOU WERE ACCEPTING OF THE GARAGE BUILDING AS IT IS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE CONCERN WITH KEEPING NUMBER EIGHT THAT SAYS STRIKING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVAL, BUT KEEPING NUMBER EIGHT THAT SAYS THE APPLICANT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE EX EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE BUILDING.
DOES THE STAFF NEED DIRECTION ON HOW WE WANT THEM TO WORK? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, MOST OF US ARE SAYING WE'RE OKAY WITH IT, BUT THEN WE'RE SAYING TO THE STAFF, WE WANT YOU TO WORK ON THE EXTERIOR.
WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO
SO IF THE APPLICANT COMES FORWARD AND SAYS, HEY, WE WANNA ADD AN AWNING FOR SHELTER CO IS NOT COMING.
SO WE ARE NOT SEEING IT AGAIN.
CODA IS NOT COMING, WE WANNA ADD A MINOR ON IT, THEN THIS CONDITION ALLOWS STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO IMPLEMENT THOSE AND WE DON'T SEE IT AGAIN WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, I'M OKAY WITH IT.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE SEEN AS A DIRECTIVE THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AS IS.
AND MAYBE IT'S CAVEATED, LIKE SHOULD CODA NOT OCCUPY THAT SPACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IF THAT'S THE POINT.
THEN IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, IF THAT NEVER HAPPENS.
SO WE END THAT ONE BACK IN WITH THE PREFACE.
YOU MIGHT WANT THAT ON THE FRONT END OF THE OKAY.
IS ESSENTIALLY A CONDITION PRECEDENT TO TRIGGER THE CONDITION.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SAY THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOU CAN TAKE THE POLL REBECCA, IF YOU WANT TO SEE, BUT I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEGATIVE.
SO ADDING IT IN, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GONNA HAVE ANXIETY THAT IT'S THERE.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE GONNA HAVE ANXIETY THAT IT'S NOT, SO IT'S A POSITIVE VERSUS NEGATIVE THING.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE, LET, LET ME DO STRAW POLL, WHO DOES NOT WANT NUMBER EIGHT CONDITION INCLUDED? I, SO THAT'S ONE.
SO, SO WE CAN COUNT TO FOUR, BUT RIGHT NOW THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE DON'T HAVE ANY REFERENCE TO CODA.
SO TO CLARIFY HOW SHE'S ADJUSTED IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH CODA.
SO WE'RE, IT'S, IT'S SUGGESTING SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S NOT IN THE DOCUMENTS, BUT IT'S, BUT THE REASON THAT THE DESIGN IS THE WAY IT IS, IS BECAUSE THERE IS THE EXPECTED, HEY CODA'S COMING LATER.
AND SO WE WANT THE APPLICATION TO STAND, ITS ON, ON ITS OWN TWO FEET.
THIS EITHER A CODA COMES FORWARD AND WE SEE THE APPLICATION AGAIN OR CODA DOES NOT COME FORWARD AND THEY WORK WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES.
WE'RE BACK UP TO 13 CONDITIONS.
ANY FINAL DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? CAN WE GO BACK, I HEARD ONE ABOUT THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE SEATING AND PUBLIC ART YES.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WAS ON MY LIST.
SO YOU HAVE ITEM, UM, I CAN'T READ 'EM OUT.
IF YOU GO UP THE ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE SCRIM, IT SAYS TO WORK WITH THE PAB DETERMINE ARTWORK FOR THE POST GARAGE SCRIM.
CAN WE ADD IT, ADD ARTWORK IN THERE? IS THAT BETTER THAN PUTTING, CREATING A SEPARATE LINE ITEM? OR SHOULD WE JUST CREATE, TREAT 'EM SEPARATELY? UH, BECAUSE THE, THE SEATING ALONG THE PARK IS D VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.
VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE GARAGE.
I WOULD KEEP THOSE AS TWO SEPARATE.
BUT THE THE ART IS THAT TO THAT? YEAH, I WOULDN'T, UH, WELL HOW ABOUT THAT? ANY ADDITIONAL ART WITHIN THE OPEN SPACES CAN BE, OR WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT YOU WANT IT TO BE MORE GENERIC.
SO THEN ON ON 14 YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT.
YEAH, I'M STARTING MR. GARVIN, WHAT WAS THAT? SO THEN FOR CONDITION 14, TAKE OUT THE ART I THINK AND LEAVE SEATING.
DOES THAT SATISFY EVERYBODY? HEY KIM, ON, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ON 14, I THINK IN ADDITION TO THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE YOU HAD MADE COMMENT ON THAT PORTION, PEOPLE COMING ACROSS, UH, WHERE THAT RESTAURANT WOULD BE ALONG THE A DA PATH.
RIGHT? IF THAT'S THE WAY I CAN REFER TO IT.
WHICH SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE, THE A DA PATH, IF THAT, DOES THAT GIVE CLARITY? MM-HMM
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I MEAN THERE'S SEEDING ELSEWHERE IN THE PLAN.
DO WE WANNA BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHERE PUBLIC ART, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE CORNER AND THE YEAH.
END OF THE I I OR GENERAL? I THINK DICTATING ART HASN'T WORKED OUT REALLY WELL IN HISTORY SO I WOULD YEAH, I THINK THAT COULD BE PART OF THAT.
I MEAN TYPICALLY WE LOCATIONALLY LET THAT BE PART OF THE PAB REVIEW.
SO COMMISSION WE ARE LOOKING AT AT 14 CONDITIONS HERE.
UM, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? I DO WANNA ASK THE APPLICANT SOMETHING BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE MOTION.
ANY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE RIGHT.
WITH THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M YEP.
BUT MR. WAY MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING.
THE APPLICANT PROVIDES STAFF WITH SCREENING DETAILS AS PART OF THE SITE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL SCREENING DETAILS OF LANDSCAPE SCREENING.
WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT ONE? THAT'S THE TRANSFORMERS AND THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC.
WE'RE NOT DOING LIKE MOVIE SCREENINGS,
UH, DO WE WANNA SAY MECHANICALS? YEAH, BECAUSE WE OKAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONDITIONS BEFORE WE INVITE THE APPLICANT, UH, UP? MR. HUNTER, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF DELIBERATION, A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, A LOT OF WELL DISCUSSION.
IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH? ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TIME TO ADDRESS? CAN I SEE THE FIRST PAGE? UM, SO NUMBER TWO, I THINK THE APPLICANT WORKS WITH STAFF ON THE DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY.
I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL BE NECESSARY AND WE'RE STILL STUDYING THAT, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT IS ACTUALLY A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS THE STANDARD RIGHT OF WAY THROUGHOUT BRIDGE PARK.
SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE, THE ENGINEERING OF THAT STREET RELATIVE TO THE STOPLIGHT, WHICH HASN'T BEEN DONE YET.
AND THERE'S NOT DICTATING IT'S APPLICANT'S WORKING WITH STAFF.
SO I'M, I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THAT.
SPECIFICALLY REALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE ONES WE'VE CHANGED THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE TONIGHT.
WHAT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE? DO, DO WE WANNA UH, UH, LOOK, I'M GONNA HELP OUT MR. HUNTER HERE.
DO WE WANNA PUT POTENTIAL DE UH, DEDICATION IF HE'S CONCERNED? IT'S KIND OF STANDARD FOR US TO SAY WORK WITH STAFF ON THE DEDICATION OF, AND THEN, BUT, BUT IT'S SAYING THE DEDICATION, ASSUMING THAT THE DEDICATION IS, I'LL READ THAT AS THE DEDICATION IS GOING FORWARD.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST ME SAYING THAT.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
IT'S THESE SINCE THE APPLICANT BROUGHT IT UP.
SO AGAIN, I, WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THAT REQUIRED DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY COULD BE AND LOOKED PRELIMINARILY AT DRAWINGS OF HOW THAT COULD FIT WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
I THINK THAT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO ONE OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS WHERE WE'RE NEEDING TO LIKE LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE DETERMINE NO ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY IS NEEDED, THEN IT GOES BACK.
SO I MEAN I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE'D PREFER TO KEEP IT AT THIS POINT KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THEM DO SOMETHING MORE THAN IS REQUIRED.
SO, AND THE LANGUAGE IS STANDARD.
AND RIGHT OF WAY HAS GONE FORWARD.
WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE AND RIGHT OF WAY HAS NOT GONE FORWARD.
I'M GLAD FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, AND THEN I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND NUMBER SEVEN.
'CAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ELEVATION AND TRYING TO, WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE UNCLEAR EXACTLY WHICH WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE CONDO BUILDING, HONDA BUILDING HOLD PLEASE.
I INTERPRETED IT DIFFERENTLY THAN MATT IS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY AWNINGS, SO THE LITTLE TINY CANTILEVER THAT ONLY STICKS OUT LIKE 24 INCHES.
THAT HAS THE, IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE LOWEST LEVEL THERE.
SO LIKE A, LIKE A, ALMOST LIKE A CANOPY, LIKE A HEADER THAT STICKS OUT.
JUST SOMETHING THAT, THAT TO ME, THAT SECTION, THAT VERTICAL SECTION LOOKS FORGOTTEN.
AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S QUIET, LIKE A QUIET MOMENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE FORGOT TO ADD SOMETHING.
SO JUST NEEDS A LITTLE, JUST ON THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY A DOOR ON THE BOTTOM.
THE, TO ME IT'S THE, THE VERTICAL.
YOU HAVE THIS REALLY BLANK HEADER PART FROM THAT, THAT TOP MOST WINDOW TO THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE FOUR WINDOWS BELOW THAT ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUINTUPLET SET THAT ALL.
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IT NEEDS A LITTLE LOVE.AND IF THAT'S, I THINK
I, I DON'T NEED TO SEE IT AGAIN.
IT JUST LOOKS, IT'S NOT QUIET.
I I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT ADDING LITTLE THINGS THAT IT COULD LOOK BAD ACTUALLY.
AND, AND SO, AND THIS IS WHY I'M, I'M SAYING I'M NOT DICTATING, IT DOES LOOK FORGOTTEN, BUT WE'RE NOT DICTATING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING RAC.
LOOK WHAT, LOOK AT IT WITH STAFF.
AND IF CORRECT, IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO DO ANYTHING, THEN THAT'S FINE.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S SAYING? THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTS.
I JUST SEE LOTS AND LOTS OF APPLICATIONS AND THEN I WATCH 'EM BUILT AND GO, OOH, I WISH WE WOULD'VE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT I THINK ONCE IT'S BUILT I'M GONNA GO, OOH, I WISH WE WOULD'VE.
IT'S LIKE THE JULIET BALCONIES ON THE TOWNS ON THE PARKWAY THAT SOMEBODY WANTED, WANTED.
I'M THINKING OF ONE OVER IN PERIMETER, BUT HEY
AND THEN CAN I SEE THE LAST PAGE? I THINK, YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
THE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES ON THAT, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SEATING THAT WE DISCUSSED, IS THAT IT? IS THAT WHAT THAT'S IT ORIGINALLY HAD PUBLIC ARMS. SO MAYBE THAT ALL YOU CAN JUST CLARIFY TO SAY SEATING AND BE DONE WITH THIS.
IT'S NOT THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION.
SO, UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS ACCEPTING OF THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONDITIONS.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE PARKING PLAN WITH THE 14 CONDITIONS AS MODIFIED AND DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN THIS EVENING.
AND FINALLY, I THINK WE STILL JUST HAVE ONE.
AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? THIS ONE IS THE CONDITIONAL USE IS APPROVAL AND THE OTHER ONE THE PLATS ARE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL.
SO THE, LET SEE THE CONDITIONAL USE DOESN'T HAVE ANY, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CONDITIONS.
UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE.
MS. MAXWELL, CAN YOU CLARIFY? I BELIEVE ON NUMBER TWO I HAD DESLER HARDER ON THOSE MOTIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? ON THE CONDITIONAL USE? YES.
I HAD WE GARVIN OR OH, I'M SORRY.
NOT ON CONDITIONAL USE ON PRELIMINARY FINAL.
SO THE, THE ONE OF 'EM HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
NUMBER ONE HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
YEAH, IT'S THE SUPPLEMENTAL HAS DIFFERENT NUMBERING THEM THE YES.
THEN THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION 'CAUSE I JUMPED BACK AND FORTH.
SO NOW FINALLY, UH, MOTION NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF THE COMBINED PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT WITH A SINGLE CONDITION.
WE REMAIN AT A SINGLE CONDITION.
AND MR. DESLER, YOU WERE THE SECOND.
AND LADIES, IT WAS A PLEASURE SEEING YOU THIS EVENING.
UH, WE CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO IT MOVING FORWARD.
SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHILE WORKING WITH STAFF, THEY CAN DIRECT ANY QUESTIONS BACK TO US FOR CLARIFICATIONS.
BUT OF COURSE THE MEETING MINUTES ARE PUBLIC RECORD AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO REWATCH THIS TITILLATING, UH, SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS AT A LATER TIME SHOULD YOU NEED SOME HELP FALLING ASLEEP.
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YOU.[COMMUNICATIONS]
UH, WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS FOR THIS EVENING, JENNY, YOU SHOULD HAVE A QUICK, UH, FEW ITEMS. AND SO I WILL TURN TIME OVER TO YOU NOW THAT I'M NOT SO CONFUSED ON MY NUMBERING NUMBERING NUMBER.THAT WAS OUR THEY WERE OUT OF ORDER, I APOLOGIZE.
WE HAVE A PA OHIO, UM, TRAINING AVAILABLE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
AND OF COURSE, DO I HAVE MY CALENDAR WITH THE DATES? UM, IT'S TOLEDO AND IT'S, SORRY.
SO WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY.
UM, SO YOU COULD GO FOR ANY OR ALL OF THOSE DAYS.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I KNOW, UM, MS. HARDER HAD LET ME KNOW THAT SHE WAS INTERESTED A WHILE BACK.
SO IF THAT'S STILL THE CASE, THAT'S FINE.
UM, BUT ANY OF THE OTHER OTHERS OF YOU ARE INTERESTED, LET ME KNOW AND HAPPY TO OR HELP ARRANGE THAT.
UM, SOME STAFF WILL BE ATTENDING, UM, FOR SURE.
DO YOU KNOW WHO FROM STAFF IS GOING? UM, MY, I'M GOING FOR SURE, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY CONSOLIDATED AS WE CAN DO THIS ALL AT ONE TIME AND MAKE HOTELS, RESERVATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY WE HAVE OUR SORT OF ANNUAL JOINT TRAINING WITH THE OTHER BOARD AND COMMISSIONS.
UM, SO BETWEEN THAT AND MYSELF AND STAFF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE TRAINING PIECE UP FRONT, OUR TYPICAL LEGAL PIECE OF THAT.
AND THEN, UM, SINCE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY ON SOME OF THE OTHER BOARDS, JUST HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, HOW THAT WORKS SIMILAR TO THINGS WE TALK ABOUT HERE, RIGHT.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WHEN.
UM, BUT REALLY THE BULK OF THAT WILL BE WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE WHERE WE HAVE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS AND YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO TALK IN SMALL GROUPS AND THEN SHARE OUT TO SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE AND, AND TALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW YOU HANDLE SITUATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE DINNER, IT STARTS AT SIX O'CLOCK, DINNER WILL BE FROM SIX TO SIX 30 AND THEN THE MEETING WILL OFFICIALLY START AT SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30.
SO, UM, IT'S IN OUR BUILDING IN OUR BIG CONFERENCE ROOM, LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
'CAUSE THAT HELPS US HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMAL DISCUSSION.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE AT THIS POINT, I, UM, I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE WON'T BE HERE, BUT YEAH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I'LL SEND AN EMAIL SO YOU CAN CONFIRM THROUGH THAT.
JUST SO WE HAVE A COUNT OF, OF WHO THAT IS.
UM, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ITEM TO HIGHLIGHT IS, UM, THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
UM, WE'VE HAD SOME CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE REZONING PIECE OF THAT.
AND THEN, SO THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL CODE MODIFICATIONS COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION, UM, HERE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ABOUT THAT.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE DETAILED TO SHARE AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, JUST WANT TO GIVE A HEADS UP ABOUT THAT.
SO IS IT, WAS THAT THOSE CHANGES POTENTIALLY AS A RESULT OF THE COMPLAINTS AT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS? IT'S RELATED TO THE REZONING REQUEST, YES.
ANY COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE JUST ONE, UH, SPORTS OHIO COMMITTEE.
WE ARE DOING KIND OF A, A, A STEERING COMMITTEE WALKTHROUGH TOMORROW AT 11.
UH, SO I WILL REPORT BACK WHEN WE MEET AGAIN.