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[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]
A, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE A RB MEETING MINUTES FROM JANUARY 29TH, 2025.IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND THE RULE.
UM, THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REVIEW OF CONSTRUCTION AND MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS TO ANY SITE IN THE AREA AREA SUBJECT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD UNDER SUBJECT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
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[Case #25-023INF]
FIRST CASE.SO FIRST CASE, UH, UH, 25 DASH 0 23 INFORMAL REVIEW, 16 NORTH HIGH STREET, REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND NON-BINDING FEEDBACK FOR MODIFICATIONS TO A LANDMARK BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE 0.0 0.26 ACRE SITE IS ZONED HDHC, HISTORIC CORE DISTRICT, UH, AND RODDY.
AND GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR AN INFORMAL REVIEW FOR SITE AND BUILDING MODIFICATIONS AT 16 NORTH HIGH STREET.
THE 0.26 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED NORTHEAST AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH HIGH STREET AND EASTWOOD STREET.
THE SITE IS ZONED HISTORIC DISTRICT, HISTORIC COAL WITH HISTORIC COAL ON THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST OF THE PROPERTY.
AND HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL ON THE EAST SIDE ACROSS BLACKSMITH LANE SITE HAS TWO BUILDINGS AND BOTH THE BUILDINGS ARE INDIVIDUALLY LISTED ON THE NATIONAL RACE.
16 NORTH HIGH STREET WAS BUILT AROUND 1843 AND IT HAS ORIGINALLY BUILT AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A RECTANGULAR FOOTPRINT AND A TWO STORY CORE.
THERE ARE TWO GABLE WALL DORMERS ON THE FACADE AND THE BUILDING USES LIMESTONE AND STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF.
THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY AWAKENED THE ADJACENT BUILDING, 22 NORTH 20, SORRY, THE ADJACENT BUILDING 22 NORTH HIGH STREET.
UM, THERE IS NO MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED TO THIS BUILDING.
HERE ARE SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, OF THE SITE.
THE PHOTO ONE AND TWO IS THE FRONT AND THE REAR OF 16 NORTH HIGH STREET AT THE REAR.
SOME MODIFICATIONS ARE PROPOSED.
THE PHOTO THREE AND FOUR ARE TAKEN FROM THE SIDE, WHICH IS TWO AND FROM, UM, THE BACK OF THE 2016 NORTH HIGH STREET.
AND THE PHOTO NUMBER FIVE SHOWS THE PATH THAT'S BETWEEN 16 AND 22, WHICH WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE ASPHALT DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS A CLOSE VIEW OF THE REAR OF 16 NORTH HIGH STREET.
PHOTO NUMBER SEVEN SHOWS THE EXISTING OUTBUILDING, WHICH FACES NORTH BLACKSMITH LANE.
AND PHOTO NUMBER EIGHT SHOWS A VIEW ACROSS, UM, FROM THAT OUTBUILDING TOWARDS S RIVER.
SO BOARD PROVIDED A NON-BINDING FEEDBACK IN NOVEMBER, 2023 FOR A THREE STORY MIXED USE ADDITION AND DEMOLISHING, UM,
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THE EXISTING OUTBUILDING AS WELL AS THE SHED, WHICH IS ON 22 SOUTH HIGH, 22 NORTH HIGH STREET, SORRY, WITH THAT BOARD APPROVED A CONCEPT PLAN LAST YEAR, FOLLOWED BY AN INFORMAL REVIEW, WHICH WAS MORE TOWARDS SEEING THE MASSING STUDIES AND HOW THE PROJECT IS PROGRESSING.TONIGHT, APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN INFORMAL REVIEW ON THE PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE A RESTAURANT USE.
APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REMOVE THE CURRENT VEHICULAR AXIS, WHICH IS FROM NORTH HIGH STREET AND CREATE A PEDESTRIAN PATH BETWEEN 16 AND 22.
RESURFACE AND RETRIP THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, WHICH INCLUDES ADDITION OF ONE AREA PARKING SPACE AS WELL CLEAN AND ENCLOSE THE OPENINGS OF THE EXISTING OUTBUILDING, WHICH FACES NORTH BLACKSMITH LANE.
ADD A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE BEHIND 16 NORTH HIGH STREET.
WITH THIS, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED, WHICH INCLUDES REMOVE UNAPPROVED INSTALLATION OF THE HVAC UNIT, WHICH WAS SEEN IN THE PHOTOS EARLIER, ADDING SEATING AND SOME UMBRELLAS AND PLANTERS TO THE FRONT PATIO, AND INSTALL A SCREEN, UM, TO THE EXHAUST HOOD, WHICH WILL BE REQUIRED AS A PART OF THE RESTAURANT USE AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AND INCORPORATE SOME BIKE PARKING BETWEEN, UM, 16 AND 22.
NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE'LL, I'LL SHARE SOME VIEWS OF THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS.
UM, THIS ONE SHOWS THE DUMPSTER LOCATION AS WELL AS THE RESURFACED PARKING LOT ALONG WITH THE AREA PARKING SPOT.
THE CODE OUTLINES THAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS MUST BE MET THROUGH ONSITE OFFSITE, OR THROUGH ANY OF THE PARKING STRUCTURES NEARBY.
BASED ON THE CALCULATION, THERE WOULD BE REQUIREMENT OF 20 PARKINGS TO BE WITH THE CURRENT USE, INCLUDING 180 D.
A PARKING APPLICANT IS PROVIDING THREE ONSITE PARKING, INCLUDING THE A D PARKING AND REST WILL BE OFFITE.
COURT SAYS THAT IF PARKING IS PROVIDED OFFITE, IT REQUIRES THE PUBLIC PARKING TO BE LOCATED WITHIN 600 FEET.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM NORTHWEST, WHICH SHOWS THE OUTDOOR SITTING AND THE FRONT PATIO BIKE PARKING ALONG WITH LANDSCAPE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS.
THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION OR THE FRONT ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE ELEVATION BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, WHICH IS A NORTH ELEVATION, AND THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION.
BUT THE RESTAURANT USE A NEW TYPE TO EXHAUST HOOD WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE RESTAURANT AND PER CODE, ANY ROOF MOUNTED MECHANICAL EQUIPMENTS MUST BE COMPLETELY SCREENED FROM ALL SIDES AND AVOID VIEW FROM THE GROUND LEVEL.
UM, WE CAN SEE THE ADDITION HERE AT THE ROOF.
AT THE REAR, WE CAN SEE THE DUMPSTER ADDITION TWO, BASED ON THE REQUIREMENT OF THE CALCULATIONS PER BUILDING STANDARDS, A NINE FOOT BY NINE FOOT ENCLOSURE ON THE ROOFTOP IS REQUIRED AS A PART OF SCREENING AROUND THAT EXHAUST HOOD.
THIS SCREENING WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STRAIGHT ON VIEW FROM NORTH HIGH STREET, BUT IT'LL BE VISIBLE WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING FROM NORTH HIGH BLACKSMITH LANE.
WITH THIS, WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION CUSHIONS FOR THE BOAT TONIGHT WITH THE BOAT SUPPORT AND OFFSITE PARKING PLAN WITH THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW.
DOES THE BOAT SUPPORT THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY AND CLOSING THE OUTBUILDING LOCATION OF BIKE PARKING AND THE SIZE OF THE DUMPSTER? DOES THE BOAT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED SCREENING FOR THE EXHAUST HOOD? AND IF THERE ARE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANY ALTERNATIVES BY THE BOAT ON THAT AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS BY THE BOARD WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DO HAVE THE OWNER AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT.
ANY FOLLOW UP? NO, NO, I'M GOOD.
JUST MAYBE ONE QUESTION AND CERTAINLY I THINK FROM WHEN WE HAD, UM, THE RIVERVIEW PARKING BECOMES A MORE OF A TOPICAL ISSUE FOR THE, CERTAINLY FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
AND AS WE THINK ABOUT, OKAY, I'D SAY THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF PARKING, THE, THE ASK FOR OFFSITE PARKING, BUT HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT THE PARKING HOLISTICALLY? MAYBE SARAH, I KNOW WE HAD A SMALL CONVERSATION, BUT HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY? BECAUSE CERTAINLY AS WE GO INTO THE PROJECT REVIEW, RESIDENTS COULD HAVE, UM, IT'S COME BEFORE.
SO HOW DO WE START TO THINK ABOUT WHEN IS, WHEN IS IT NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH OFFSITE PARKING, AND HOW CAN WE HELP NEW, UH, SAY NEW RESIDENTS? PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE? RIGHT.
AND CURRENTLY, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBIL MOBILITY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A CURB MANAGEMENT PROJECT, AND I HAVE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT WITH THEM.
UH, WE HAVE, AS PART OF THAT PROJECT,
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DONE AN EXTENSIVE SURVEY ON THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, NOT ONLY FOR HISTORIC DUBLIN, BUT ALSO IN BRIDGE STREET.AND AS PART OF THAT SURVEY, WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO MONITOR WHEN EACH OF THOSE PARKING SPACES AND PARKING STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN USED THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
WE HAVE DATA TO SHOW THAT THERE IS AMPLE PARKING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND WE CAN INCLUDE THAT WITH MORE DETAIL ONCE WE GET TO MINOR PROJECT.
AND YES, NOW WE HAVE UP TO DATE DATA.
IS THE HEADS THAT TASK FORCE OR WHATEVER IT IS, ISSUED A REPORT.
COULD WE, I KNOW IT'S NOT A PART OF THIS, BUT COULD WE AT SOME POINT HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT? OH, SURE, YES.
WE COULD ADD THAT TO YOUR LIBRARY.
WOULD THE ONBOARD LIBRARY ONCE IT'S ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I MEAN, WILL CONTINUE TO BE A, A POTENTIAL CHALLENGE, SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT AND RIGHT.
SO, AND IT'S A, IT'S MORE OF A, IT'S KIND OF AMBIGUOUS, BUT CERTAINLY AS WE KNOW, UH, RIVERVIEW, AS WE START TO THINK ABOUT MORE AND MORE, THE USE WILL CHANGE BACK THERE.
AND AS WE THINK ABOUT, UM, THE CURB CUT AND HOW THE WHOLE THING, HOW THAT WILL LOOK AS PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN AND OUT.
I I GUESS WE WON'T GET INTO THE DETAILS HERE, BUT CERTAINLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WILL END UP BACK ONTO RIVERVIEW AND HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING IN THERE, SIGHT LINES IN THERE.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT NEEDS, IT, IT'S FORESEE TO BE MORE WALKABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LEAVE.
UH, AND MAYBE MR. LI CAN ALSO GIVE US SOME INSIGHT ABOUT WHAT THAT'LL LOOK LIKE, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEHOW AS WE, AS WE THINK THROUGH THIS, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN AND THE VEHICLE INTERACTION IS, UH, IS WELL UNDER WELL THOUGHT THROUGH.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT CROSSING THE SIDEWALK IN THE FRONT, SO THAT TAKES ONE, ONE PART OUT, BUT CERTAINLY HAVING THE INTERACTION IN THE BACK ALSO WILL BE, HAS A POTENTIAL WITH THE WAY THE BUILDINGS ARE SITUATED.
SO IS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS TO MAKE SURE WE GET ENGINEERING REALLY WELL INVOLVED AS WE GET TO THE NEXT STAGE.
YOU HAD SAID THE STUDY HAD BEEN COMPLETED.
WHAT WAS THE TIMEFRAME THAT THEY LOOKED AT THE PARKING LIKE, WAS IT SUMMERTIME? WINTERTIME FALL? IT WAS OVER A PERIOD OF ABOUT 18 MONTHS, AND IT WAS EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY.
AND WE HAVE THE DATA SORT OF 24 7 TO BE ABLE TO SHOW
UH, ANY, ANY UH, COMMENTS YOU WANT TO, UH, WANNA MAKE IF YOU YEAH, YOU HAVE THE, THERE YOU GO.
AND IF YOU JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND, AND YOUR ADDRESS.
YES, ELIZA HO 400, UM, WESTRIDGE 4, 3, 2, 1, 5.
UH, AND THANK YOU RATTI FOR THE VERY COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE CASE.
SO LIKE RATTI RECOUNTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CASE HISTORY, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BACK IN 2023.
IT WAS A MUCH BIGGER, YOU KNOW, UM, PRO PROPOSAL THAT WITH A MIXED USE BUILDING AT THE BACK.
AND THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, UH, THE OWNER, PROPERTY OWNER, JORGE BRIANI, YOU KNOW, HE WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REALLY FOCUS ON THE RENOVATION OF THE FRONT BUILDING 16 NORTH HIGH.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT THAT HE'S TRYING TO BRING TO THE HISTORIC, UH, DUBLIN DOWNTOWN, IT IS A, UH, FAST CASUAL ASIAN STYLE CUISINE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY ACTUALLY KNOW THAT THE BUILDING IS PRETTY SMALL.
THE INSIDE IS ONLY 1600 SQUARE FOOT, YOU KNOW, AS THE DINING, UH, AS THE, AS THE ENTIRE FLOOR PLAY.
AND, UH, MOST OF THE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, AS JORGE, UM, ENVISION WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKE OUR BUSINESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE GOING BACK TO THE CONCEPT KIND, KIND OF LIKE, UH, ADDRESSING THE IDEA OF PARKING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS WOULD, THIS CUSTOMER, A LOT OF THEM WOULD BE JUST WALK TO THE, WALK TO THE STORE AND DO TAKE, TAKE OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, HE DOES WANT, HE DOES ENVISION THAT THE PATIO, YOU KNOW, ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU KNOW, TO BE A LOT KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO HALF, YOU KNOW, TABLES AND CHAIRS OUT THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, AND NEXT TIME WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW, WE'LL PRESENT SOME OF THE RENDERINGS TO SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SEATING LAYOUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, UH, I THINK ONE MORE THING JUST TO ADD TO IT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JORGE HAS BEEN WORKING, YOU KNOW, VERY CLOSELY, YOU KNOW, ON THE BUILDING AND HE'S VERY COMMITTED IN RECTIFYING SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, UM, THINGS THAT, THAT HE HAS ADD TO THE BUILDING.
AND HE'S VERY COMMITTED IN RECTIFYING,
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YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE CORRECTLY.SO, YOU KNOW, WANT THE BOARD TO KIND OF LIKE, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND I'M REALLY HOPING TO, YOU KNOW, HEAR MORE FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, FROM YOU TO THAT TONIGHT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PEDESTRIAN WALK, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE BOARD HAS RECOGNIZED THAT WE WANT THE, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC DUBLIN, UH, TO BE VERY WALKABLE AND, YOU KNOW, BY TURNING THE DRIVEWAY, THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY INTO A WALKWAY, YOU KNOW, TO THE BACK IS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THAT TOO.
AND WE WILL DEFINITELY ADD THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS, YOU KNOW, ON BOTH SIDE OF THE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING AS WELL.
SO THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP? I, I DO HAVE A, MAYBE JUST A COUPLE, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON JUST, UM, A COUPLE, UH, THING.
SO MAYBE WE START, I KNOW, UH, UH, TRASH ENCLOSURES IS ALWAYS A BIT OF A, OF A SUBJECT HERE AND CERTAINLY, UH, WHY DID YOU PICK THE LOCATION THAT THE TRASH ENCLOSURE JUST AS IT SITS IN A, IN A CERTAIN SITE LINE? SO WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR IT TO BE IN THAT SPOT? YES.
UM, SO, UM, WE ACTUALLY LOOK INTO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT LOCATION OF IT, YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION THAT WE SUGGESTED HERE.
YOU KNOW, FIRST THING YOU KNOW IS WE ENVISION THAT THE TRASH TRUCK IS GOING TO COME FROM BLACKSMITH AND THEN DRIVING UP THE DRIVEWAY.
AND THEN THIS SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST CONVENIENT LOCATION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DUMP, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE TRUCK TO PICK UP THE DUMPSTER AND YOU KNOW, PUT IT IN THE, YOU KNOW, TRASH TRUCK.
AND I THINK JORGE ALREADY CONTACTED THE TRASH COMPANY, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF ARRANGE THAT.
AND UH, UM, I THINK THE DUMPSTER SIZE IS ONE TO TWO YARD, AND THEN THE PICKUP, YOU KNOW, FREQUENCY IS ABOUT ONCE A WEEK, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT.
HAD, HAD YOU CONSIDERED MOVING THE, UH, DUMPSTER LOCATION OVER CLOSER TO WHERE THE EXISTING GARAGE IS, THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN AND YOU'VE ASKED TO COVER IT WITH THE HARDY BOARD, BUT PERHAPS IF IT WAS OVER THERE BECAUSE THE, THE DUMPSTER TRUCK IS GONNA HAVE TO COME UP AND TURN IN YOUR PARKING AREA IN ORDER TO COME BACK DOWN MM-HMM
TO GRAB THE DUMPSTER FROM THE BACK.
SO IF IT WERE LOCATED PERHAPS IN ANOTHER SPOT CLOSER TO THE BACK OF THE LOT WHERE THAT BUILDING IS, UH, REMAINING, PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE, UH, VISUALLY BETTER FROM, FROM BLACKSMITH AND ALSO STILL VERY ACCESSIBLE FOR THE, UM, TRASH.
YEAH, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN DRAWING REALLY THAT'S ON, UH, PAGE THREE OF SEVEN OF THE, UM, STAFF'S REPORT.
I JUST HAD MADE SOME NOTES WHEN I WAS OVER THERE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY THAT IT SEEMED LIKE SINCE THAT BUILDING IS STAYING, IT KIND OF CONS WOULD CONCEAL IT FROM BLACKSMITH AND IT COULD BE TUCKED THERE BEHIND IT.
BUT I REALIZED THERE ARE SOME TREES THERE, MATURE TREES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INVENTORIED AND PERHAPS WOULD NEED TO BE RELO OR MOVED AND REPLACED.
BUT TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE A BETTER OR MORE CONCEALING YEAH.
UM, I THINK WE DID, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR THE, FOR THE DUMPSTER, YOU KNOW, AND NUMBER FOUR CURRENTLY IS A GARAGE.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS JUST TRYING TO STABILIZE THIS STRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE DO PUT A DUMPSTER, YOU KNOW, IN THAT LOCATION, NOT IN THE LOCATION BEHIND IT, BEHIND IT, I THINK WE WILL NEED TO CONDUCT MORE STUDIES, YOU KNOW, TO TO, TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF IT, YOU KNOW.
UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, JORGE ALSO HAS THE, YOU KNOW, TALK TO THE, THE, THE DUMB, THE DUMPSTER COMPANY, YOU KNOW, THE PICKUP COMPANY AND YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE ARE OTHER LOCATION THAT IS MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT.
WELL I THINK THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE THERE FROM THE END OF THE PARKING LOT.
AND TO LIKE THAT AREA FIVE, I MEAN YOU'RE TALKING, I'M LOOKING THERE, I SAW BIG GRADE CHANGE DOWN THERE AND AGAIN, THE MATURITY OF THE TREES, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, 'CAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE CIRCLES NOW ARE GOING TO REMAIN CORRECT.
THOSE TREES ARE NOT BEING REMOVED.
AND THIS INFORMATION IS NOT YET PROVIDED, BUT LOOKING AT A SITE PLAN, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO STAY.
HOWEVER THEY HAVE, PART OF THEIR PLAN IS TO, UH, REPAIR THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THERE IS A GRADE CHANGE, BUT MOSTLY IT'S HAMPERED BY THE LARGE HOLES IN THE DRIVE THERE.
NO, WELL NOT THE DRIVE GOING DOWN, IT'S JUST NORTH OF THE DRIVE GOING INTO THAT.
WHERE, CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? UH, WE'RE NUMBER FIVE.
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GO BACK TO THAT LAST SLIDE.I THINK IT WAS NUMBER EIGHT RIGHT THERE FROM ABOUT WHERE THAT TREE IS.
YOU CAN'T QUITE SEE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG OF A GRADE CHANGE IT PROBABLY ALMOST THE GRADE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP TO THE BACK EDGE OF THAT GARAGE THAT EXISTS THERE.
I MEAN THAT, YEAH, THE WAY IT'S A GOOD RESOURCE, YOU JUST HAVE THAT WOULD THEY'D HAVE TO BACKFILL THAT AREA TO MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL? WELL, IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE THOUGH.
AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT TREE THERE ON THAT CORNER, BUT I GUESS MY THOUGHT WAS IF IT WAS TUCKED BEHIND THAT GARAGE AREA, LOOKING AT FRAME EIGHT TO THE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE SOUTH, UH, WEST CORNER OF THE GARAGE STRUCTURE, THAT IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY CONCEALED BECAUSE THAT STRUCTURE OR THAT TRASH STRUCTURE IS ONLY, UM, SIX FEET TALL ALSO.
IS THAT, THAT'S A UTILITY POLE THERE ON THE FOREGROUND, YOU CAN SEE.
IS THAT BEING REMOVED, IS THAT PART OF THE, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE SCOPE AT THIS POINT, NOT THIS PLAN, BUT OF THE UTILITY PLAN COMING UP WITH THE CITY? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
UM, I HAVE NO DETAIL INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
WELL, THAT WAS JUST MY OBSERVATIONS ON TRASH ENCLOSURE, SO, SO I THINK CERTAINLY TRYING TO CONCEAL IT MORE IS, IS I THINK WE SEE THAT AS BETTER.
BUT, AND I MEAN, TO MIKE'S POINT, THE GRAY, THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES IN THERE THAT MAY NOT FIT, SO IT'D BE IT, YES.
I I THINK WE CERTAINLY LIKE TO CONCEAL THEM OTHER PLACES WE SEE THEM, BUT, UH, IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT TRYING TO SEE WHERE THAT COULD FIT IN A DIFFERENT SPOT, I THINK IT, IT, IT WOULD MAKE THE LOOKING UP THE DRIVEWAY LOOK MORE APPEALING.
CAN I CHANGE THE SUBJECT TO THE POCKET PARK
UM, I WOULD, IT'S TUCKED AWAY BEHIND THE GARAGE AND DOWN THE, THE PEDESTRIAN PATH.
SO IT'S NOT VERY OBVIOUS TO EITHER BLACKSMITH'S DRIVE OR TO HIGH STREET.
DO YOU OR YOUR CLIENT HAVE ANY PLANS TO MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE TO USE, OR IS IT MEANT TO BE PRIVATE? UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? SURE.
THE, THE PARK OR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, GREEN SPACE NUMBER FIVE INDICATED BY FIVE ON THE SITE PLAN IS BEHIND THE GARAGE, SO IT'S NOT OBVIOUS FROM BLACK BLACKSMITH AND IT'S DOWN THE PATH NINE, EIGHT, AND NINE, THAT WOULD THEN CUT THROUGH THE, UM, PARKING LOT.
SO IT'S NOT SO OBVIOUS FROM HIGH STREET EITHER.
ARE THERE PLANS TO MAKE IT INVITING TO PEOPLE? YEAH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, NUMBER FIVE, CURRENTLY IN OUR FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, IT IS MEANT JUST TO KEEP IT AS IS, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, PLANNING TO, YOU KNOW, TURN THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE JUST GOING TO PUT SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, GRASS SEED, YOU KNOW, IN THERE AND MAINTAIN THE ASSETS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO USE OR VIEW IT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WILL, IT WILL, IT WILL, IT WILL COME TO THE BOARD AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PROPOSE THE PHASE TWO.
SO YOUR EXPECTATION THIS WOULD NOT IN PHASE ONE BE PUBLIC.
UH, ADD ANOTHER, ANOTHER QUESTION HERE.
WHAT, OH, AND, AND ALSO NOW CHANGING THE SUBJECT AGAIN UNLESS, UH, ON THE, ON THE GARAGE, SO I DON'T, IT'S KIND OF VAGUE ABOUT YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO CLOSE THE, CLOSE THE, THE BACK OF THAT, PUT SOME HARDY BOARD UP THERE AND, AND WHAT'S THE, FOR, WHAT'S THE, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT AS OPPOSED TO TEARING IT DOWN? VERY GOOD QUESTION.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE I MENTIONED THAT, UM, WHEN, WHEN I STARTED, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS VISION OR THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL IN COMPARISON TO NOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, UH, THE OWNER IS TAKING A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION.
SO IN THE FIRST PHASE, YOU KNOW, HIS PROPOSAL IS REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE FIRST BUILDING.
SO THE GOAL IS, IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, DEMOLISH OR, YOU KNOW, TO AUTOMATE THE SITE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO STABILIZE NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO STABILIZE IT.
SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU KNOW THE RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, STARTED AND IS, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE AND YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE MORE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE PHASE TWO FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THAT IS THE, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDING IN THE, THIS PHASE, THE STABILIZATION OF THE BUILDING DOESN'T SERVE ANY PURPOSE AT ALL.
CERTAINLY MIKE, I'M SORRY, CERTAINLY PUBLIC SAFETY AND CERTAINLY IT WILL BE ON A VERY VISIBLE, IT'LL BE VERY VISIBLE AS TIME GOES ON.
I DON'T, WHENEVER PHASE TWO COMES, HOPEFULLY
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THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL VERY QUICKLY AND YOU FIND OTHER THINGS, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY THAT'LL BE A VISIBLE SPOT THAT YES, FROM A, I LOOK AT THE, MAYBE FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SAFE, THAT PEOPLE DON'T END UP IN THERE AND DOING THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE.BUT OKAY, SO YOU SEE THAT AS A PHASE TWO, OKAY.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, DO YOU PLAN ON CLOSING THE FRONT SO PEOPLE CAN'T GET IN? YES.
TO SECURE IT NOW THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN TO SECURE THAT.
AND THEN THAT ALSO TIES INTO THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINAL PLAN YET FOR BLACKSMITH TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE UTILITIES ARE GONNA GO, ET CETERA.
AND MAYBE THE LAST, JUST EVERYBODY, UM, WHEN WE WERE ON THE WALK, WE SAW, UH, IN ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS HERE.
SO HOW'S EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT THE, JUST MAYBE FROM COMMENTS ON THE ENCLOSURE OF THE FAN? EVERYBODY'S OKAY, AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN, I THINK IT'S VERY WELL DONE THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT SITUATION OCCUR, THAT WE DID DO THE WALKTHROUGH ON SOUTH HIGH, THAT I THINK WE GOT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE NOW BASED ON WHAT WE SAW WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING ON SOUTH HIGH.
SO I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY CONTROL OF WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.
WELL, AND I LIKE THE WAY THAT IT'S SET BACK SO YOU DON'T SEE IT FROM THE FRONT.
I REALLY, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT, IT'S, I THINK YOU'VE DESIGNED IT WELL, LOCATED IT WELL, I GUESS.
AND THEY'RE MOVING THE, UH, AIR CONDITIONING UNIT THAT HANGS OVER THE ALLEY BACK AS WELL, CORRECT? YES, THOSE UNIT WILL, WILL BE RELOCATED.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALL GONNA BE RELOCATED UP INTO THE UPPER UNIT OR IS THAT JUST, 'CAUSE THOSE WON'T EXIST ANYMORE, CORRECT.
THE ONE ON THEY WILL, THEY'RE GOING AWAY.
AND FOR ME, FROM THE HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE, HOW THAT HOUSE SHOULD LOOK, THAT'S GONNA BE AMAZING TO GET RID OF THOSE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, SO LET'S GO.
UM, SO MAYBE WE CAN, UH, JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.
UM, HOW'S EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT THE PARKING PLAN? ANY, ANY CONCERNS WITH OFF OF HAVING THEM HAVE, LET'S SAY 15 TO 18 SPACES OFFSITE? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. YEAH, I THINK FROM OUR SIDE WITH WHAT WE'LL SEE FROM THE REVISED PARKING STUDY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.
SO I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH, UH, WITH THAT.
UM, UH, HOW'S EVERYBODY FEEL? ANY, ANY COMMENTS ON THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS, THE WALKWAY, BIKE PARK, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE TOO? ANYBODY, OTHER THAN THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, ANY, ANY FOLLOW UP WE WANT TO DISCUSS? AND I, I THINK THE OTHER THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASE TWO, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO ALSO CONTINUE ENVISION WHERE THAT DUMPSTER SITUATION COULD HAPPEN AND BE RELOCATED POSSIBLY IN PHASE TWO.
ANY EXHAUSTED? I THINK EVERYBODY, WE, I THINK WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE'VE SEEN SOME OTHER ONES.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN A GOOD SPOT, DOING IT AS IT IS SO IT MATCHES, IT BLENDS INTO THE ROOF AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK THEN THAT WOULD THAT AND IT'S ONLY SEEN FROM THE BACK.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT.
ANY OTHER, I JUST HAD ONE OTHER OBSERVATION THAT IN THE EVENT ON, UM, THAT IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WOULD REEVALUATE THE LOCATION AND SIZE OF THE PROPOSED DUMPSTER AREA, UM, IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO MOVE THE THIRD PARKING SPACE OVER TO THE DUMPSTER AREA AND THAT WOULD KIND OF MAKE THAT ENTRANCE INTO THE PARKING AREA MORE OPEN FROM THE VIEW FROM HIGH HIGH STREET.
BUT THAT WAS JUST AN OBSERVATION, AS YOU COULD SEE IN THE FIXED THE, UM, SITE PLAN DRAWING AS IT ENDS RIGHT THERE AT THAT, UM, HANDICAP SPOT THERE ON, OR THAT PARKING SPOT RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF EIGHT.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING I JUST THOUGHT IF IT WAS MOVED THE THIRD, THE SECOND, THE THIRD SPARK PARKING SPOT WAS MOVED OVER TO SEVEN.
BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE STATED THAT YOU AREN'T TOUCHING ANYTHING WITH THE PHASE TWO, WHICH INVOLVES THE BACK OF THE LOT, SO I CAN APPRECIATE WHY YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO EXTEND THAT.
MAYBE JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
I THINK, UH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, SO I THINK FROM A OVERALL PHYSICAL CHANGES, I THINK IT WE'RE THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY, THE WAY YOU'RE GONNA REDO THE, THE IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, GETTING RID OF THE AIR CONDITIONING, MAKING IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY, I THINK EVERYBODY'S QUITE, UH, HAPPY WITH WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UM, I THINK, UH, THE PARKING IS OKAY.
ENGINEERING WILL LOOK AT HOW, HOW IT INTERACTS WITH BLACKSMITH LANE WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT PHASE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S OKAY.
SOME CERTAIN CONCERNS ABOUT THE DUMPSTER.
MAYBE JUST THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UH, IF THAT COULD BE PUT SOMEWHERE KNOWING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PHASE TWO, COULD IT BE SOMEWHERE IN THE INTERIM TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, MM-HMM
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CONCEALED IT CONCEALED IN A, IN A, IN A CERTAIN WAY.CERTAINLY WE WANNA LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH FOUR WITH, UH, WITH THE EXISTING GARAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CERTAINLY SECURE FROM A, FROM A, BOTH, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT AND MAKE SURE AND IT'S PHYSICALLY STANDING IN A, IN A GOOD WAY.
UM, I THINK WE CAN, ANY OTHER, I MEAN, RONNIE, ANYTHING WE NEED TO ANY ANY OTHER ANY OTHER, ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT, NEXT PHASE FROM, FROM FROM THE BOARD? NO.
DID THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION TO, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD? I THINK SO.
I THINK FOR ME IT LOOKS, UH, I THINK IT LOOKS ENCOURAGING HOW, HOW YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD.
SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD PHASE ONE.
AND SORRY, WERE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS
[Case #24-130MPR]
SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER 2 24, UH, NUMBER 24 1 30 MINOR PROJECT REVIEW, 48 SOUTH HIGH STREET, REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A FACADE MODIFICATION TO A LANDMARK BUILDING ON THE ZERO POINT 25 ACRE SITE.ZONED HDHS, HISTORIC SOUTH DISTRICT.
AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MINOR PROJECT REVIEW AT 48 SOUTH HIGH STREET FOR FACADE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE 0.25 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH HIGH STREET AND SPRING HILL LANE, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN YELLOW.
IT IS ZONE HISTORIC DISTRICT HISTORIC SOUTH, SURROUNDED BY HISTORIC SOUTH TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH, AND HISTORIC COURT TO THE NORTH AND HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED FOR AN INFORMAL REVIEW EARLIER THIS YEAR AND BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT THE DESIGN SHOULD BE VERY VERNACULAR AND SIMPLE IN APPROACH AND THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD CONSIDER, UM, WORKING WITH A PRESERVATION ARCHITECT.
THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH THE PRESERVATION ARCHITECT AND THE STAFF AND MODIFIED THE DESIGN TO ENSURE THAT IT MEETS OUR ALLIANCE WITH THE HISTORIC PHOTOS.
THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF TWO ADJACENT BUILDINGS LOCATED AT 48, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN BLUE AND 50 THROUGH SOUTH HIGH, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
THESE STRUCTURES WERE ADDED TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN 1979.
CURRENTLY THE ACCESS TO THE FIRST FLOOR OF 48TH SOUTH HIGH STREET IS VIA THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS FROM SOUTH BLACKSMITH LANE.
WHILE THERE IS A DOOR THAT WE CAN SEE ON THE FACADE, IT LEADS YOU TO ACTUALLY TO THE SECOND FLOOR AND THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE BUILDING FROM SOUTH HIGH STREET.
THIS PROPOSAL WILL ENABLE THE FIRST FLOOR PEDESTRIAN AXIS FROM SOUTH HIGH STREET.
THESE ARE SOME HISTORIC PHOTOS, WHICH DATES BACK TO 1898 AND 1920 AND 1856.
MAPS SHOWS THAT THERE USED TO BE A STORE THAT WAS PRESENT ON THE SITE, AND OVER TIME THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ALTERATIONS TO THIS FACADE.
HISTORIC PHOTOS SHOWS THAT THE MAIN ENTRANCE ORIGINALLY FACED NORTH HIGH STREET AND THE APPLICANT IS AIMING TO RESTORE THAT AXIS.
IT CAN BE ALSO SEEN THAT THERE WERE VERY MINIMAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES ON THE BOAT ON THE FACADE FOR BOTH 48 AS WELL AS 15.
THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS OF THE BUILDING INCLUDING INCLUDES REMOVING THOSE TWO BAY WINDOWS AND REESTABLISHING AN EARLIER DOOR LOCATION, AS WELL AS A NEW STOREFRONT WINDOW WHERE AN OLDER WINDOW ONCE EXISTED.
FOLLOWING THE FEEDBACK WHICH WAS RECEIVED AT THE INFORMAL REVIEW, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE ADJUSTMENT TO SIMPLIFY THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES IN COMPARISON TO THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED FOUR HISTORICAL ELEMENTS.
THE CURRENT DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE NOW MORE IN LINE WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS FOUND IN THE HISTORIC PHOTOS SHOWING A DOOR WITH A SIDE LIGHT AND A STOREFRONT WINDOW, AND THERE IS A HEAD TRIM ABOVE ALL THE THREE OPENINGS TO ENSURE THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING.
THE SIZES OF THE DOORS AND WINDOWS ARE LIMITED TO THESE SIZES AND THERE IS NO ALTERATION TO THE SIZE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING CD SHAKE SINGLES ON TOP OF THE WINDOW AND THE DOOR STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT A SMOOTH MDF PANEL SHOULD BE INSTALLED ABOVE THOSE SO THAT IT LOOKS AS ONE PART AND NOT ADD ON TO THE FACADE AND IT SHOULD BE MATCHED DONE TO MATCH THE COLOR OF THE TRIM.
THIS IS INCLUDED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT ALSO PLANS TO INSTALL AWNINGS ABOVE THE DOOR AS WELL AS THE STOREFRONT WINDOW.
CURRENTLY THERE IS AN AWNING ON THE FACADE ABOVE THE EXISTING DOORWAY.
THE APPLICANT PLANS TO ADJUST THE LOCATION OF THE AWNINGS SO THAT ALL THE THREE AWNINGS ARE IN THE SAME LINE FROM THE BOTTOM.
AWNINGS MAY BE USED IF THEY FUNCTION AS A SUITABLE PROTECTION FROM ANY ELEMENTS AND CODE REQUIRES THAT THE LOWEST PORTION
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OF THE AWNING BE EIGHT FEET ABOVE THE UM, PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY.THE EXISTING DOOR AWNING IS PREEXISTING AND DOES NOT MEET THE CODE.
THE APPLICANT SHALL ENSURE THAT THE AWNINGS DOES MEET THE CODE IN TERMS OF WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE AWNINGS IS.
CODE REQUIRES THAT THE AWNINGS BE MOUNTED WITHIN THE FRAMES AND NOT OUTSIDE THE FRAMES.
SO THE APPLICANT MUST ENSURE THAT THE AWNINGS ARE TO THE SIZE THAT FITS WITHIN THE WINDOW FRAME.
REGARDING THE HEIGHT, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ALL THE THREE HEIGHTS TO BE AT THE SAME, AND THIS WOULD BE AT THE HEIGHT OF SIX FEET, EIGHT INCHES.
THE INSTALLATION OF THIS HEIGHT WILL MAINTAIN AN ARCHITECTURAL APPROPRIATENESS BECAUSE AN EIGHT FEET WOULD BE TOO HIGH FOR THIS FACADE AND WOULD NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT'S EXISTING AT 50 SOUTH HIGH STREET.
AS A NOTE, SINCE SIGNAGE ON THE AWNINGS IS REQUIRED TO BE AT EIGHT FEET, THERE SHOULD BE NO SIGN APPLICATION ON THE AWNINGS WITH ANY FUTURE APPLICATIONS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES USING A WIND ALUMINUM CLAD WOOD WINDOW DOOR WITH A SIDELIGHT AND VINTAGE COLOR WITH A PEWTER TRIM.
THE STOREFRONT DOOR AND TRIM ARE ALSO PROPOSED TO BE IN THE SAME COLOR.
BOTH THE DOOR AND THE WINDOW HAVE WIND DIVIDED LIGHT MOUNTAINS, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHT MOUNTAINS PER CODE REQUIREMENT AND THEY ARE WITH SPACERS.
UM, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES FOREST ASSIST AWNINGS IN BLACK COLOR.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS PROVIDING A SAMPLE PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT JUST BECAUSE TO ENSURE THAT IT MEETS THE, UM, REQUIREMENT AND THE TEXTURE BE REQUIRED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING NEAR THE BAY WINDOW IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH BRICK PAVERS THAT WOULD MEET THE BRIDGE STREET SCAPE CHARACTER GUIDELINES.
AND THIS WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED PER THE CITY CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
THIS IS PERMITTED ACCORDING TO THE CODE AND IN THIS CASE NO FOUNDATION PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE THE CODE, UH, THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AND PLANTATION FOUNDINGS ARE REQUIRED IF IT IS WITHIN THE 10 FEET.
SO IT WON'T BE REQUIRED IN THIS SCENARIO.
SO THE WAIVER IS REQUESTED TO ALLOW AWNING HEIGHT TO BE INSTALLED AT THE CLEARANCE OF SIX FEET, EIGHT INCHES ABOVE THE SIDEWALK.
LISTED HERE ARE THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW CRITERIA.
THEY'RE MIGHT MET WITH CONDITIONS OR THEY'RE NOT APPLICABLE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MINOR PROJECT.
REVIEW THE WITH FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT ADJUST THE LOCATION OF THE AWNING TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ALL INSTALLED AT THE SAME HEIGHT WITH THE SAME CLEARANCE ABOVE THE SIDEWALK, AND PROVIDE THIS PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT.
IT ENSURES THAT THE AWNINGS ARE PLACED WITHIN THE SIDE WITH PLASTERS AND PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION AND PROVIDES FIBERBOARD PANEL ABOVE THE DOOR AND THE WINDOW INSTEAD OF THE WOOD SHAKES.
PROVIDE A SAMPLE OF THE AWNING AND ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO SIGNS PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE WITH ANY SIGN APPLICATION.
WITH THIS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DO HAVE APPLICANT HERE IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? IF YOU JUST GO BACK, I JUST WANT FROM WHEN YOU SAY ON ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE AWNINGS WILL BE THE, THAT'S THE TOP HEIGHT IN THE BOTTOM.
SO THEY'RE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT RED SQUARE, THEY'RE ALL LINED UP, UH, WHERE THEY START AT THE TOP AND WHERE THE END OF THE BOTTOM.
SO THAT'LL CHANGE THE PITCH OF THE ONE AWNING, I GUESS OF THE DOOR AWNING.
SO THE BOTTOM WILL BE LEVEL IN THE TOP ALSO? YES.
THE BOTTOM LEVEL, THE BOTTOM WILL BE LEVEL IN THE TOP AS WELL.
SO RIGHT NOW IN THIS PICTURE, THE AWNING IS ACTUALLY REPLACED TO MATCH THE AWNING, WHICH IS ON 50.
UM, ON ONSITE, THIS IS NOT HOW EXISTING THE AWNING ON THE DOOR LOOKS LIKE.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A ADJUSTMENT, BUT THE APPLICANT IS USING THE SAME STRUCTURE OR THE SAME FRAME FOR THE DOOR AWNING STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THAT BE IMPROVISED TOO, SO THAT ALL THE THREE AWNINGS ARE ACTUALLY IN THE SAME HEIGHT.
ROUTIER, ARE WE ALSO DOING THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW APPROVAL? YEAH.
'CAUSE YOU JUST HAD THE SLIDE FOR THE WAIVER.
UM, THERE WAS ONE SLIDE FOR THE MINOR.
UH, THE APPLICANT, ANY, ANY COMMENTS? UH, NO.
BEFORE WE JUST MADE THE, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
IT'S BOB BERRY AND YOUR ADDRESS, UH, 48 SOUTH HIGH IS THIS? YEP.
AND UM, SO YEAH, WE, WE JUST MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON OUR LAST MEETING THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THERE.
UM, AND EVERYTHING LOOKS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT LOOKS FINE.
I MEAN, I THINK THE, THE UPDATE TO THE TRIM PROFILE, IT MATCHES MORE OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING, YOU KNOW, SO.
SO RODDY, IF YOU JUST PUT THE CONDITIONS UP JUST TO MAKE IT SO YOU'RE CLEAR ON THE, WHAT WERE THERE SIX OF? YES.
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AND NOW RODDY TOO, ON THE THIRD AWNING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO ADJUST, WHICH IS GOING OVER THE EXISTING DOOR THAT GOES UPSTAIRS.UM, YOU KNOW, IF I ADJUST IT, I COULD, I COULD ADJUST THE WHOLE THING TO MAKE IT LOOK JUST LIKE THE OTHER TWO.
I MIS, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVE IT BE TALLER PROBABLY IF THAT'S, IF YOU THINK AESTHETICALLY THAT'LL LOOK BETTER.
SO IT'S, I'LL START OVER ANYWAYS, YOU KNOW.
SO OUR CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS THAT THEY ALL ALIGN AT THE BOTTOM AS WELL AS THE TOP.
THAT'S I THOUGHT, BECAUSE THEN, YEAH.
SO IS THAT CLEAR ON THE, ON THE, ON THE THREE AWNINGS OR INSTALLED AT THE SAME HEIGHT? THE SAME CLEARANCE ABOVE.
SO I THINK THAT, THAT FOR ME IT'S CLEAR.
SO FOR, WE WOULD WANT THEM TO LOOK THE SAME.
AS LONG AS UM, I CAN GET IT APPROVED.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING OR ANYTHING ELSE TO DO IT, BUT TO DO WHAT, WHAT'S THAT? IF I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE FOR APPROVALS ON THOSE AWNINGS, IF YOU APPROVE IT, WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
UH, AS FAR AS I, YOU, I MEAN WE, UH, THE STAFF NEEDS A, AS NEEDS A, A SAMPLE OF THE AWNING MATERIAL, BUT FROM, YEAH, BUT FROM HERE, I MEAN, ON THE SEC, UH, ON THE FIRST ONE WE'RE SAYING IF THEY, IF THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME, SAME HEIGHT YES.
SAME PLANE ACROSS THE WHOLE THING.
THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE APPROVING HERE.
AND THEN FROM HERE, YOU WON'T NEED ANOTHER, YOU WON'T NEED ANOTHER, AND WE NEED ANOTHER PROOF.
SO, SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD THERE.
STAFF WOULD, STAFF WOULD REQUIRE A REVISED ELEVATION TO SHOW THOSE AWNINGS ON THE, ON THE ELEVATION FOR THE RECORDS.
SO IF, YEAH, SO IF YOU CAN GIVE A FINAL DRAWING TO THEM OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE PLUS THE SAMPLE.
THEN THAT'LL GIVE THEM A FINAL VIEW TO SAY, YEAH, THAT'LL, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE FINAL LOOK OF THE, OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.
SO FOR YOU, THE, THE FI THE OTHER FOUR CONDITIONS ARE, ARE OKAY FOR YOU THIS, I MEAN, ONE OF 'EM SPECIFICALLY, IT CAN'T BE A, IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T BE A SIGN ON ONE OF THE AWNING AWNINGS, EVEN THE IN THE FUTURE.
YEAH, WE'VE, I, I, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A NEW TENANT THAT MOVED INTO THE SOUTH BUILDING.
THEY WERE LOOKING TO PUT A SIGN ON ONE OF THE AWNINGS, I THINK, AND I TOLD HIM, EH, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA GO FLY TOO WELL.
AND HE TALKED TO THE BOARD AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, DON'T DO THAT.
SO YEAH, SO I, YEAH, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS ABOUT THE SHAKE ABOVE THE DOOR OF THE THE, THE CHANGING.
I THINK IT WAS DRAWN AND RICH HAD DRAWN IT IN, BUT, BUT HAVING THE FIBER PANEL UP THERE IS OKAY.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE, UH, WITH THE UM, CONDITIONS, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY CONCERNS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? I'M SORRY.
SO, UH, FOR THIS, SO, UH, SO WE HAVE TWO, UM, UH, TWO MOTION.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, HEIGHT WAIVER? ALSO MOVE TO, I'M SORRY, ALSO MOVE TO APPROVE THE HEIGHT WAIVER AS OUTLINED BY THE STAFF IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW REVIEW WITH THE FIVE CONDITIONS? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW WITH THE FIVE CONDITIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS VERY MUCH.
[Case #25-015MPR]
CASE TO, UH, WHICH ONE IS THIS? YEAH, 25 0 1 5 MINOR PROJECT REVIEW.UM, SO THIS IS A REQUEST AND REVIEW FOR APPROVAL AND RENOVATION OF THREE EXISTING BUILDINGS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WILL BE UTILIZED AS RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE.
THE ZERO POINT 71 ACRE SITE IS ZONED HDHC HISTORIC CORE DISTRICT AND IS LO LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST IS LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE NORTH OF NORTH STREET AND NORTH HIGH STREET INTERSECTIONS.
SARAH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
UM, INDEED THIS IS A PROJECT FOR RENOVATIONS FOR 72 84 NORTH HIGH AND 20 NORTH STREET, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE OLD OSCAR SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE, THEY WILL WANNA SHARE SOME SLIDES AFTER THIS PRESENTATION.
THE SITE IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
IT'S AT THE VERY NORTH EDGE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
BOTH THE LIBRARY AND THE PEARL ARE ACTUALLY IN BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.
THE PROJECT SITS ON THREE LOTS ON ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.
THE BUILDINGS ARE CLASSIFIED AS BACKGROUND.
THAT'S THE 72 84 NORTH HIGH BUILDINGS,
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20 NORTH IS ACTUALLY UNCLASSIFIED BACK IN 2024.THE BOARD HEARD AN INFORMAL REQUEST FOR THIS PROJECT AND AT THAT TIME WE CONFIRMED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD GO THROUGH A MINOR PROJECT REVIEW.
WE IDENTIFIED SIGNATURE FEATURES FOR PRESERVATION AND INCORPORATION INTO THE UPDATES AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING OR CREATING A STREET EDGE AROUND THE PROPERTY.
2009 WAS THE LAST MAJOR REVIEW FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT OR PROPERTY.
AND THAT INCLUDED VARIANCES BY THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
AS NOTED IN THE REPORT, THIS IS JUST A QUICK VIEW OF THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S SURROUNDED BY A, UM, A VARIETY OF BOTH MODERN AND HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
AND OF COURSE THIS IS THE 72 84 NORTH HIGH BUILDING.
THESE ARE, UM, PHOTOS THAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE THAT BASSAM HAD PROVIDED AND IT'S JUST A QUICK REMINDER OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND LIKEWISE, HERE'S THE REAR VIEW.
SO MOVING ON TO THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS FOR THIS BUILDING.
THE ELEVATION IS DIVIDED BY THE FIREWALLS.
FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, JUST FOR ORGANIZATIONAL REASONS, THE LEFT SIDE HAS NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS AND THIS PORTION OF THE FACADE WILL RETAIN THE STONE AS, UH, PREVIOUSLY SEEN IN THE CENTER WE SEE THE SIGNATURE FEATURE BOX BAY WINDOWS THAT ARE TREATED UNIQUELY FROM THE REST OF THE CENTER PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
HERE WE HAVE SINGLE HUNG WINDOWS, SPECIAL TRIM DETAILS, DROP SIDING THAT WILL MATCH THE SIDING FOUND UNDERNEATH THE PLYWOOD SKIN THAT'S ON THERE AT THIS POINT.
UH, THIS HELPS PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THOSE FEATURES FOR THE ENTIRE CENTER PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
THIS WILL BE CLAD IN FOUR INCH REVEAL LAP SIDING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, SEVEN INCH HORIZONTAL SIDING WILL BE USED.
THERE'S NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS.
THE GABLE AND BOX BAY DETAIL HAS BEEN SIMPLIFIED AND THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS NEWER SECTION OF THE BUILDING AT THE REAR ELEVATION.
THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE FROM THE RIVER.
THE FIREWALLS ARE HIGH HIGHLIGHTED AGAIN FOR REFERENCE.
AND THE NOW LEFT SIDE IS LARGELY HIDDEN BY 20 NORTH STREET.
AND AGAIN, WE SEE THE WIDER HORIZONTAL SIDING AND THERE'S SOME NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS HERE, BUT NOT A LOT OF BIG CHANGES IN THIS LOCATION.
IN THE CENTER, THE STONE FOUNDATION REMAINS.
WE SEE THE NARROW HORIZONTAL SIDING, THE ADJUSTED WINDOWS AND DOORS.
AND HERE IN THE CENTER IS A NEW HVAC SCREENING AREA.
AND HERE WE SEE NEW DECKING AND RAILING THAT KIND OF LINKS ALL OF THE BUILDINGS TOGETHER.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WINDOWS HAVE BEEN ADDED HERE TO HELP BALANCE THE FACADE.
THE EXISTING AIR CONDITIONER UNITS ARE ALL GOING BEHIND THAT CENTRALLY LOCATED HVAC SCREEN.
A NEW DOORWAY IS ADDED WITH A SHED ROOF FEATURE HERE, AND THE TOP FLOOR IS GOING TO HAVE SIDING AND NEW WINDOWS.
THE STUCCO WILL WILL REMAIN ON THE LOWER FLOORS.
THE OTHER ELEVATIONS ARE LARGELY UNCHANGED AND NOT VISIBLE.
YOU CAN REFER TO THE STAFF REPORT, BUT WE'RE SATISFIED WITH THE, UM, PROPOSED CHANGES AS UH, MADE BY THE APPLICANT.
SO MOVING ON TO 20 NORTH STREET AGAIN, SOME PHOTOS JUST TO REMIND YOU WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL, THIS IS SEEN FROM THE RIVERSIDE NOTE, THE DECKING AND THE RAILING THAT SPANS ACROSS THE LINK INTO 72 AND 84 AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED.
YOU MAY NOTICE THAT UM, THIS PARTICULAR ELEVATION SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR 72 84.
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PORTION.THE STAIRS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE COME INTO THE NORTH STREET RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT'S SUBJECT OF A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT WITH THE SITE PLAN.
THE SOUTH ELEVATION FACES NORTH STREET.
THE NORTH ELEVATION FACES THE PARKING LOT.
SO TAKING A LOOK AT THE SOUTH ELEVATION OR ACTUALLY UM, BOTH INSTANCES THE WINDOWS HAVE SILLS, TRIM AND LENTILS AS REQUIRED BY CODE.
THE ARRANGEMENT IS LESS MODERN PER THE DISCUSSION.
AT INFORMAL, THE ENTIRE DECK IS KEPT BECAUSE THAT WAS DISCUSSED, HOW IT HELPS BREAK UP THE MASS OF THE BUILDING.
THE DECK COVER IS OVER A PORTION OF THE SOUTH FACING FACADE, NOT ON THE NORTH.
UM, THE ARCHED SIGNATURE FEATURES, THE STONE FEATURES ARE KEPT ON BOTH ELEVATIONS.
AND THE NORTH ELEVATION, AS WE SAID, FACES THE PARKING LOT AND THE LINK BRIDGE, THE DECK RUNS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING.
THE LOWER LEVEL IS UH, DEFINED WITH INDIVIDUAL DOOR AREAS.
AND NOTE THIS DECK CONNECTION THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT NOW THAT CONNECTS INTO 72 84.
SO YOU CAN START TO SEE HOW ALL THESE PIECES PLAY TOGETHER.
TAKING A LOOK AT MATERIALS, THE ITEMS IN BOLD REQUIRE WAIVERS.
SO THE SIDING IS A VARIETY OF HARDY PLANK.
THERE ARE THE VARYING WITS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR 72 AND 84.
THERE WILL BE BOARD AND BATTEN FOR 20 NORTH STREET.
THIS MATERIAL DOES NOT REQUIRE A WAIVER.
AND AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE BOX BAY DETAILS ON 72 AND 84 HAVE THE ACTUAL WOOD DROP SIDING TO MATCH WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THE TRIM IS GOING TO BE CEDAR OR REDWOOD IN SMOOTH FINISH.
AND THEN THERE'S AN AREA WHERE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO USE BORAL OR THAT POT ASH MATERIAL IN SPECIFIC AND LIMITED LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S RIGHT AT THE GROUND AGAINST UM, AT 72.
UM, THAT AGAIN NEEDS A WAIVER.
THE ROOFING FOR ALL BUILDINGS IS PROPOSED TO BE GAF TIMBERLINE AND PEWTER GRAY AS SHOWN.
AND ALSO AS SHOWN UP FRONT, THE DECKING AND HANDRAILS NEED A WAIVER.
THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE TIMBER TECH AND IT'S FOR DURABILITY AND SMOOTHNESS.
AS YOU KNOW, YOU RUN YOUR HAND ALONG THE HANDRAIL.
IT'S SHOWN IN THE DRIFTWOOD COLOR AND THEN THE WINDOWS AND DOORS ALSO NEED WAIVER.
UM, PROPOSED IS AN ALUMINUM SYSTEM AS REPRESENTED IN THIS PHOTO HERE.
UH, THE METAL SAMPLE IS UP HERE.
THE COLORS WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE BUILDING.
UM, AND IN THE BOX BAY WINDOWS ON 72 AND 84, THE WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE SINGLE HUNG.
SO THAT BEST REPLICATES THE HISTORIC WINDOWS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE STILL ALUMINUM.
MOVING ON TO COLORS, THE COMBINATION FOR 72 AND 84 IS AT THE TOP.
SO THE SIDING IS GOING TO BE IN THREE DIFFERENT COLORS TO HELP BREAK UP THE MASSING.
QUARTER SAW OAK IS GONNA BE FOR 72.
AND THE STUCCO IN SIDING FOR THE NORTHERN MOST END OF THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE THE CLASSICAL WHITE.
ALL TRIM GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE THE CLASSICAL WHITE FOR BUILDING 20.
ON THE BOTTOM WE HAVE THE PRE-FINISHED HARDY PLANK IN THE MOUNTAIN SAGE, BUT IN THE SMOOTH FINISH.
AND THEN THE TRIM IN THE AREA UNDER THAT DECK ROOF THAT I POINTED OUT IS GOING TO BE IRON ORE AND THE WINDOWS AND DOORS, THE DECK RAILINGS, THE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS ARE ALL GOING TO BE IRON ORE.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE HIGH STREET
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EDGE.THE MODERN WALLS HERE ARE KEPT.
THE HISTORIC COLUMN AND PERPENDICULAR WALL IS ALSO KEPT.
YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE LANDSCAPE IS VERY STRUCTURAL AND ALMOST REGIMENTED IN ITS PATTERN.
AND THAT IS TO HELP WITH THAT STREET EDGE.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF BENCHES, BIKE PARKING AND LIGHTING ADDED ALONG THIS EDGE.
THE LIGHTING IS SHOWN IN YELLOW.
UM, THERE'S TWO BENCHES DIRECTLY ALONG NORTH HIGH STREET.
AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE BIKE PARKING.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALL OF THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT PAVING TYPES ARE GOING TO BE CONSOLIDATED INTO UM, A SINGLE PAVING THAT IS THE SAME BRICK THAT MATCHES THE PUBLIC PAVING ON OUR SIDEWALKS.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE NORTH STREET EDGE, THIS IS DIVIDED INTO TWO PHASES AND THAT'S DEMARCATED BY THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
THIS ALLOWS THE RIVERVIEW VILLAGE UTILITY WORK TO BE FINALIZED.
UM, BY THE WAY, WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH A EP TODAY.
SO THAT COORDINATION CONTINUES.
WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON MOVING SOME OF THAT, THAT LARGE EQUIPMENT AWAY FROM NORTH STREET RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS A RELIEF TO EVERYBODY.
UM, THE INSTALLATION TIMING FOR THIS LANDSCAPING IS THE SUBJECT OF A RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THIS IS ALL GONNA COME TOGETHER.
UM, THE LANDSCAPE HERE HAS A SIMILAR, SIMILAR STRUCTURAL DESIGN APPROACH FOR THE SAME REASONS.
AND ALONG THIS EDGE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ENCROACHMENTS.
THESE INCLUDE THE STAIRS, WHICH I POINTED OUT EARLIER, SOME STEPS, PATIOS, LANDSCAPING.
THIS IS ALSO THE SUBJECT OF A RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, INCLUDING THE TIMING OF THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT PERMITS.
UM, AND THEN HERE I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE HISTORIC WALL THAT EXISTS ALONG NORTH STREET.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND IT IS ON OUR REPAIR LIST AND THE APPLICANT AND STAFF AND UM, THE ASSET MANAGEMENT STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING ON COORDINATING THAT EFFORT AS WELL.
AT THE REAR OF THE SITE, THERE IS ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT SCREENING, BOTH ON THE PERIMETER AND IN ADDED ISLANDS.
THERE IS ADDITIONAL DUMPSTER SCREENING.
THERE'S DEMARCATED A DA PARKING SPACES AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BIKE RACKS.
SO WE MENTIONED THAT THE PAVING IS GOING TO MATCH THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
THE PROPOSED BIKE RACKS ARE SHOWN HERE.
THEY'RE FROM VICTOR STANLEY, THEY'RE IN SILVER.
AND THEN, UH, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING VICTOR STANLEY BENCHES TO MATCH THE PUBLIC ONES JUST IN SILVER.
SO THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC REALM AND THE PRIVATE REALM.
AND THEN ALSO WE SEE HERE THE BOLLARD LIGHTING, WHICH EMPHASIZES THE ENTRY POINTS AND THE PEDESTRIAN AREAS.
THREE WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED AND THESE ARE FOR THE ALUMINUM WINDOWS, THE TIMBER TECH DECKING AND HANDRAILS.
AND THE BORAL SIDING ADJACENT TO THE GROUND STAFF SUPPORTS ALL THREE REQUESTS AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT COMING TO THE MINOR PROJECT REVIEW CRITERIA, THESE ARE EITHER MET, MET WITH A CONDITION OR MET WITH A CONDITION IN THE WAIVERS OR NOT APPLICABLE.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ALL THREE WAIVERS AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE MINOR PROJECT WITH THREE CONDITIONS.
AND TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO COORDINATE THE UTILITY AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
AND IF THE APPLICANT GETS AHEAD OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY ARE JUST ON NOTICE THAT THEY MAY BE NEEDING TO BE RELOCATED.
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HAVING TO DO WITH PHASE TWO OF THAT LANDSCAPE INSTALLATION AND THE TIMING FOR THAT.UM, AND ALSO NOTING WHAT REQUIRES ENCROACHMENT PERMITS.
AND FINALLY, SIGNS ARE NOT APPROVED WITH THIS MINOR PROJECT.
NONE SHALL BE REVIEWED WITHOUT APPROVAL OF A SEPARATE MASTER SIGN PLAN.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO THAT APPROACH.
AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THE STONEWALL WAS A BIG CONCERN OF MINE TOO.
NOW IT'S NOT RELATED TO THEIR MINOR PROJECT.
SO IT'S JUST WHAT YOU'RE STATING TO ME IS THE CITY'S TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT YES.
RESTORATION OF THAT CURRENT SECTION OF WALL.
'CAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE SIDEWALK.
THERE'S RIGHT, IT'S IN BAD SHAPE,
AND WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO IS REPAIR IT AS THE CITY AND THEN HAVE THEM COME IN WITH THEIR LANDSCAPING AND THEN IT GETS DAMAGED.
SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO COORDINATE ALL OF THAT.
AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT THE APPLICANT WITH ASSET MANAGEMENT, BOB TAYLOR, WHO TAKES CARE OF ALL OF OUR WALLS FOR US.
SO THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.
IT'S WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND ALSO IT THAT WORK, WILL IT BE DELAYED UNTIL THE, UH, STREET WORK IS FINALIZED OR HOW DOES THAT UM, MAYBE IT DOESN'T IMPACT IT, IT MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT IT.
UM, INITIALLY WE THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME IMPACTS FROM AEPS SWITCH GEARS AND, AND OTHER BOXES AND EQUIPMENT.
NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WILL NOT BE THE CASE.
SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THIS TWICE RIGHT.
OR THAT IT'S DONE PREMATURELY BEFORE WE KNOW WHERE THE LINES ARE DRAWN.
APPLICANT WOULD, UH, MAKE A STATEMENT OR COMMENT, AND I THINK YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SWORN IN WHEN YOU GOT HERE.
PARDON ME? DID YOU GET SWORN IN WHEN YOU ARRIVED? YOU DIDN'T.
SO IF WE COULD SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU, UH, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.
BEFORE YOU STARTED, I GOTTA FIND MY LITTLE SCRIPT HERE.
WHAT DID I DO WITH IT?
UH, SO ANYWAY, COULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND AN ANSWER IN THE AFFIRMATIVE? DO YOU SWEAR TO AFFIRM OR TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH IN YOUR TESTIMONY TO THIS BOARD.
AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, YOU JUST HAVE TO TURN ON THE, THERE YOU GO.
MY OFFICE IS AT 36TH KING AVENUE.
COLUMBUS, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE TIME TONIGHT.
WE, UH, I THOUGHT WE WOULD GO AFTER, UH, UH, SARAH, BECAUSE HER REPORT IS SO THOROUGH.
IT SEEMED KINDA REDUNDANT FOR US TO INTRODUCE OUR PROJECT, BUT WE CAN JUST SORT OF HIT THE, THE, UH, HIGH POINTS.
UH, ON THE LEFT, UH, IT'S KIND OF CUT OFF IS THE PORTION THAT WILL REMAIN STONE IN THE, IN THE, UH, CENTER IS THE, THE TWO BOX BAYS THAT HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, TRUE HUNG WINDOWS IN THERE.
AND THERE IS ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT SIDING.
IT'S HARD TO, UH, PICK OUT UNLESS YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT AT IT.
BUT THE SIDING IN THE BOX BAY IS A DROP SIDING IN ACTUAL WOOD, UH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THAT, UH, PROFILE IN, UH, THE CEMENT CEMENTITIOUS.
UH, AND IT, SO IT'S, UM, MORE CLOSELY, UH, RESEMBLES THE WOOD THAT WAS UNDER THERE, UH, DISCOVERED.
AND SO THE TWO BOX BASE HAVE HAD ADDED TRIM IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS AND THE DIFFERENT WOOD, UH, PROFILE.
AND THEN ON THE SOUTH END, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE, I THINK, ON THE SOUTH END.
UH, OH, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SHOT OF THAT.
AND, AND, UH, ETHAN CAN TALK TO THE LANDSCAPE THERE.
I THINK THE HYDRANGEA IS A WRONG COLOR, BUT
BUT, UH, UH, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT IMAGE, I GUESS THIS IS THE, UH, THE, UM, 72 BUILDING.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A SIMPLIFIED BOX BAY.
UH, IT'S THE HORIZONTAL SIDING AND, UM, THE EMPHASIZED ENTRY WITH THE PANEL OVER IT AND THE PAVING AND, AND, UM, NOT MUCH ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT REALLY.
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20, WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE AND WE HAD A, A MORE MODERN, UH, GESTURE ON THE CORNERS.AND WE HAD, UH, A SIMPLER WINDOW, AND IT WAS MORE OF JUST A PUNCHED OPENING.
AND, AND SO WE, WE HEARD THE, A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN, NOT
SO WE HAVE A, WE, WE ACTUALLY USE A, AN OVERSIZED SORT OF EXAGGERATED TRIM AROUND THOSE CORNER ELEMENTS TO BRING IT BACK INTO THE CONVERSATION WITH THE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE AROUND IT.
AND THEN ALL THE REST OF THE WINDOWS THAT AREN'T PART OF THOSE CORNER FIELDS, UH, HAVE NORMAL HEADER AND, AND SIDE STYLES AND, UH, AND A SILL.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A REALLY A TWO COLOR SCHEME.
IT IS THE, UH, SAGE AND THE IRON ORE TRIM.
AND IT DOESN'T, I, I GUESS THE RENDERING'S A LITTLE DARK.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, BUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE CANOPY AND EVERYTHING UNDER IT ARE ALSO IRON ORE.
SO IT GIVES IT THAT SORT OF PORCH LIKE QUALITY ON, UH, NORTH STREET.
AND, UH, AGAIN, ALL THE RAILINGS ARE THE SAME AROUND THE PROJECT.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIFYING, UH, ELEMENT, UH, TO THE DISPARATE PIECES.
UH, AND AGAIN, THE, THE WAIVER FOR THE MATERIAL, WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA PUT A WOOD HAND DRILL OUT THERE IN THE WEATHER AND HAVE PEOPLE, UH, HURT THEMSELVES ON SPLINTERS.
UH, I, WE DID MAINTAIN THE ARCH, UH, ELEMENTS, THOSE ICONIC ARCH PIECES.
AND, UM, AND THE STAIR, UH, AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND YOU, THE REASON THAT STAIR IS LIKE IT IS AND IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, IS THAT'S AN EXISTING WALL THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE.
IT'S AN OLD STONE WALL SITTING THERE.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY SORT OF COMPLIMENTARY TO THE REST OF THE WALLS AROUND THE PROJECT.
IT'S NOT THE SAME, BUT IT'S, IT'S A GREAT TEXTURE AND IT'S A GREAT STONE, AND WE'D LIKE TO LEAVE IT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WE PULLED THE STAIR OUT OF THAT AREA THAT WAS THERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE WALL AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET IT, UH, WE'LL KEEP WORKING WITH, UH, THE CITY AND A EP TO, AND, AND WE'LL GET THAT RIGHT AWAY PERMIT ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S ALL GONNA GO.
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ETHAN, YOU WANT, I THINK, I MEAN, CERTAINLY THEN, THANK YOU.
I MEAN, YOU TOOK A LOT OF THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AND INCORPORATED.
I THINK IT REALLY LOOKS, UH, QUITE GOOD.
I I TO BE QUITE, I ONLY HAD ONE QUESTION.
IT WAS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING, UH, SURE.
IS THERE WATER OUT THERE? I MEAN, NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, THERE, THERE WATER OUT ON THAT.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA IRRIGATE THAT, ALL THAT LANDSCAPE.
UM, I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO IRRIGATE DURING MAYBE TEMPORARY IRRIGATION DURING THE INSTALLATION.
BUT DON'T THINK TERM EVERYTH, EVERYTHING IS, EVERYTHING IS DESIGNED TO, TO BE FINE.
YOU WANT, I THINK THERE'S A PLAN IN BACK FOR ETHAN TO SPEAK TO.
YEAH, I, I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK, UH, MS. HOLTS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF INTRODUCING THE PLAN, BUT, UH, YEAH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK, LOOK, I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO VISUALIZE.
IT LOOKS PRETTY DENSE, SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU, IT'S GONNA GIVE A LOT OF TEXTURE IN THE, IN THE FRONT.
SO I, I DON'T, SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A GREEN THUMB.
I DON'T, YEAH, I THINK THAT VIEW IMPROVEMENT COMING OFF THE S BRIDGE IS JUST GONNA BE, UH, IT'S GONNA POP.
SO I THINK THAT'LL LOOK REALLY GOOD.
I, I LOOKED THROUGH, I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
YOU, YOU HIGHLIGHTED EVERYTHING FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATION AND I THINK CAPTURED EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK WITH THE STAFF, YOU HAVE, YOU BOTH WORKED TOGETHER AND FOR ME, CAPTURED EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, SARAH? NO, THERE HASN'T BEEN.
SO IF YOU MAY, JUST GO TO THE CONDITION JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON WHAT THE, WHAT THE CON, WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE.
SO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
SO YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLEAR ON THE THREE CONDITIONS WORKING WITH THE CITY.
IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, IT'S GONNA SIT WITH YOU IN THE, ON THE STAIRS AND ALL THE, AND ANYTHING YOU'VE PUT IN THAT MAY END UP IN A RIGHT OF WAY OR IN A PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, WILL SIT WITH THE, WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE OWNER.
THEY'RE PER PERFECTLY REASONABLE.
AND IN PHASE TWO, I GUESS 90 DAYS, OR IF IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER, YOU'LL SORT THROUGH WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU PLAN IT AT, AT A GOOD TIME.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH SIGNS.
SO YOU'RE ALL CLEAR ON THE, ON THE CONDITIONS, OKAY? MM-HMM
AND FROM OUR SIDE, ANYBODY HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE WAIVERS? NO.
THEY'RE ALL THINGS THAT I THINK WE'VE HAD, WE'VE DONE BEFORE.
AND I, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT, THAT, UH, WAS UNUSUAL FROM ANY OTHER BUILDING WE HAD.
AND THEY'RE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE.
UH, SO NOW I'VE MESSED UP MY, MY, MY PAPERWORK HERE.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA, WE ARE GOING TO, DO YOU WANT A MOTION FOR EACH WAIVER SEPARATE OR DO YOU WANT ONE? UM, FOR ALL THREE? I THINK YOU COULD DO A MOTION FOR ALL THREE.
JAMIE, DO YOU AGREE? IF THERE ARE NO AMENDMENTS TO ANY OF THE WAIVERS, THEN I THINK ONE FOR ALL THREE IS FINE.
SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE,
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THERE'S THREE, THERE WAS THREE WAIVER, THREE WAIVERS.I MOVE TO APPROVE THE THREE WAIVERS FOR THE PROJECT IDENTIFIED AS, UH, 25 DASH 15 MPR.
AND THEN NOW DO WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE MINOR PROJECT WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS NOTED? I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINOR PROJECT WITH THE THREE WAIVER CONDITION.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GONNA MAKE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT TO THE, TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
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COMMUNICATIONS? OKAY.JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. UM, ON JUNE 2ND, THAT IS GOING TO BE A CITY COUNCIL RECEPTION FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
PLEASE KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR AN INVITATION.
UM, ANY IDEA WHEN THOSE MIGHT BE COMING OUT? JAMIE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DRAFTS NOW FROM COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING.
I WOULD EXPECT AN INVITATION NEXT WEEK COME THROUGH YOUR EMAIL, YOUR CITY EMAIL.
AND THEN THIS IS, THIS IS VERY EXCITING.
AND, UM, TOM HOLTON, MIKE, YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS, TOM HOLTON PREPARED THIS WONDERFUL DETAILED POWERPOINT PRESENTATION OF HISTORIC DUBLIN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AND THEIR HISTORY THROUGHOUT TIME.
AND HE'S GOT MOST OF THE PROPERTIES IN THIS SLIDESHOW.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS UPLOADED IT INTO YOUR LIBRARY AND ONBOARD SO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THIS.
SO, UM, THIS IS AN AMAZING RESOURCE THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY WILL BE VERY, VERY USEFUL FOR YOU.
WAS ONE THING I DID WANNA ASK, WAS THERE ANY FEEDBACK OR FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE TOUR? YES.
UM, ONE THING WE NOTED AS WE WERE TOURING AROUND THE SITES ON OUR AGENDA AS WELL AS THE RIVERVIEW AREA, WALK DOWN THERE, AND IT APPEARS THAT THE MIDDLE HOUSE IS GONE.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW RODDY IF YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP REPORT ON THAT, BUT IT, WE COULD SEE NO EVIDENCE THAT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS STILL THERE.
WHERE IS THIS ON RIVER MISSING THAT ROUTE? NORTH, NORTH, NORTH? UH UH, YEAH.
NORTH RIVERVIEW, THE, NOT THE, UH, BRIDGE STREET PROPERTY.
THE NEXT ONE UP, THE SECOND ONE.
SO THE ONES ARE REBUILDING RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, I FORGET THE ADDRESS.
YES, BUT IT'S, SO THERE'S 1727 AND THEN 40 EAST BRIDGE.
IT'D BE THE ONE CLOSEST TO BRIDGE, NOT BRIDGE, NO.
40 BRIDGE IS THE ONE BY THE BRIDGE.
AND THEN THE NEXT AND 27 IS THERE NEXT TO WING HILL.
IT WAS THE, THE FIRST ONE, EXACTLY.
THE ONE ON THE CORNER OF WING HILL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SECOND ONE.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING IT IS BECAUSE WE LEFT, WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP SOME OUTSIDE FEATURES AND IT LOOKS VERY MUCH WRAPPED IN PLYWOOD.
NO, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT, WHAT IT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE AT THE END, BUT IT, IT CERTAINLY, I HAVE TO SAY FOR ME, IT DIDN'T, WHEN I WENT BY, WE WERE WALKING TOGETHER, DIDN'T LOOK LIKE HOW I WAS EXPECTING IT TO LOOK LIKE.
LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE ELEVATED THE FOUNDATION.
SO WHEN THEY LIFTED IT OFF, IT WAS LIKE A SINGLE CINDER BLOCK ABOUT OFF THE GROUND.
THEY CAME IN, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DID POURED FOUNDATION WALLS AND THOSE LOOK LIKE THEY'RE UP.
SO I THINK THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE FOUNDATION AND HEIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE MASS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, BECAUSE IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN STAYED DOWN TO THE CURRENT FOUNDATION LEVEL OF THAT SINGLE SINGULAR CINDER BLOCK, BUT NOW THE FOUNDATION'S THIS TALL, SO I DON'T EVER US DISCUSSING ABOUT
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THAT ISSUE.WE KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE RAISED TO FEED.
UM, AND I REMEMBER BECAUSE WE HAD QUITE A DISCUSSION IN TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT, SO WE DID GET IT.
AND UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS KNOWN.
WELL, I THINK THAT HE'S CORRECT THAT IT DOES ITS APPEARANCE LOOKS, UM, VISIBLY TALLER THAN WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING.
THERE HAS BEEN EXCAVATION AROUND THAT AREA AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD CAUSE MORE OF THAT FOUNDATION TO BE EXPOSED.
AND I HONESTLY CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE THE A, A BASEMENT AREA THAT WAS TALL ENOUGH TO STAND IN, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE A PART.
ALSO, THERE USED TO BE A PORCH ON THAT PROPERTY, SO YOU REALLY COULDN'T SEE, I DON'T RECALL SEEING THE STONE OR THE, UM, FOUNDATIONAL WALL THERE.
BUT WHAT STRUCK ME AT IS THAT THERE WAS ALL THIS BOARDING THAT WAS VERY TALL AND IN CLOSING IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE BUILDING, THIS WAS THE BUILDING.
AND THE ONLY THING I THOUGHT OF LATER WAS MAYBE THEY INCORPORATED OR ENCLOSED THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE JUST TO PROTECT IT WHILE THEY ARE WORKING.
SO LIKE MAKING A SHIELD AROUND IT OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT SEE THE BUILDING, THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WHERE YOU COULD SEE IN, YOU COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT LOOKED LIKE THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WAS THERE.
AND THE WINDOW OPENINGS, I BELIEVE HAVE NOW BEEN RECREATED.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT FENESTRATION COME BACK.
BUT THEY LITERALLY JUST HAD TO DISASSEMBLE THAT WHOLE STRUCTURE.
IF THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD TO DO, THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IF IT WAS JUST ROTTED THROUGH AND THROUGH, AND I REMEMBER THAT WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SAVING IT IF IT COULD BE SAVED.
AND THAT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT IT COULDN'T BE.
BUT WHEN WE WERE WALKING AROUND THAT DAY, IT WAS LIKE, WHOOPSIE, WHERE'D THE HOUSE GO?
AND WE ARE KEEPING OUR, OUR EYE ON THE HEIGHT ISSUE.
WE'VE TALKED TO OUR ZONING INSPECTOR, HE IS AWARE OF THE ISSUE, HE'S GONNA KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
AND WE'VE ALREADY POINTED OUT SOME DETAILS IN THE WINDOWS AS THEY'RE STARTING TO COME BACK THAT ARE NOT PER THE PLANS AND MADE THE OWNER AWARE.
AND, AND I THINK WITH THE PORCH NOT BEING THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE JUST SAW THIS MASSIVE RIGHT WALL OF YEAH.
OF PLYWOOD,
SO NOTHING, MAYBE THAT'LL BRING IT BACK, SO.
UM, ALSO, UH, HILLARY BROUGHT UP ON THE TOUR THAT WE WOULD NEED MINUTES FROM THE TOUR THAT IT CONSTITUTED A PUBLIC MEETING.
AH, AND THAT THERE SHOULD BE MINUTES FROM THE TOUR, OR AT LEAST A REFERENCE THAT COULD SAY WE APPROVE THE TOUR, UH, AGENDA, THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT WE SAW.
SOME SORT OF SUMMARY OF WHAT HAPPENED, SOME LITTLE SUMMARY THAT WE ALL GOT IN THE VAN AND DROVE AROUND TOWN IN THE RAIN AND VISITED X THESE SITES.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THESE SITES YEAH.
AND NOTES SO WE CAN, WE TOOK NOTES SO WE CAN GET THOSE OVER TO JAMIE AND YES.
ADD THE RIVERVIEW SITES OR WHATEVER ELSE.
WE WERE WANDERING AROUND ON OUR OWN, LOOKING AT
WHERE WE WENT OFF THE, OFF THE, THE AGENDA, THE STATED AGENDA.
AND WE HAD TO CHASE SEAN AND MICHAEL DOWN.
THE THREE OF US WERE, WE WERE A LITTLE UN UNCONTROLLABLE, SO THAT WAS OUR FAULT.
AND LISA AND, AND LISA HONING IN ON OTHER TOURS I MIGHT ASK.
PEOPLE PROBABLY NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA,
AND THEN SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
BUT OTHERWISE, I THINK IT WAS GOOD.
UH, THAT, I MEAN JUST MINOR THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE HARDY SIDING WITH THE PATTERNS THAT SOMEHOW WE THOUGHT THEN WE SAW THE ENCLOSURE OF ONE OF THE FANS THAT MAYBE DIDN'T LOOK AS MAYBE AS WE THOUGHT, BUT I THINK WAS REALLY GOOD.
WHAT I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THINGS LIKE THE, THE FAN ON THE TOUR.
I MEAN, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF TODAY'S TOPIC, BUT IT'S GONNA COME UP
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AND IT WAS JUST GOOD TO, AND IT'S ALSO GOOD TO SEE THE RESULTS OF IT.WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE HOUSE ON YEAH, IT WAS SOUTHEAST SOUTH.
AND WE'RE NOT SURE HOW 1, 1 12 IS EVER GONNA BE BUILT BECAUSE THERE WAS FLOOD WATERS RIGHT UP TO THE CLIFF IN THE RIVER THAT DAY.
REMEMBER HOW HIGH THE RIVERBANK WAS? SO, NO, I MEANT THE ONE THAT WAS FURTHER SOUTH.
WAS IT ON RIVERVIEW OR ON UM, RIVERVIEW? 1 10, 1 12? NO.
THE ONE ON SOUTH HIGH 83 WAS THE ONE THAT THEY TORE DOWN THE CHICKEN COOP A LONG TIME AGO.
OH, THAT WAS 5 7 0 7 DUBLIN ROAD.
THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT THAT'S THE ONE.
THE BOTTOM LINE, THEY'RE WORTH GOING ON.
I THINK THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING.
'CAUSE IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO, EVEN THOUGH WE VENTURED OFF THE TOUR ROUTE.
GET A SHOCK COLLAR FOR YOU NEXT TIME.
SO I THINK WE, WE, I AT LEAST I TOOK A LOT FROM IT.
YEAH, NO, I THINK HAVING ONE OF THOSE TOURS ANNUALLY IS WELL WORTH IT TIME.
I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
PREFERABLY LIKE WHEN WE WENT THE LAST TIME INSTEAD OF SLEET
WE TRY AND TIME IT SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT? DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.
IT WAS, IT WAS MISERABLE, BUT I LIVED
NO, BUT IT, THE TOUR IS GREAT.
YOU CAN'T PREDICT THE WEATHER IN APRIL, SO.
OR MARCH OR WHENEVER THAT WAS.
SARAH, ANYTHING ELSE? IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FROM US, THAT WAS IT.
I WON'T BE AT THIS NEXT MEETING IN MAY, SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
EVERYBODY ELSE I THINK IS HERE.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, I, AND THAT MIKE, THAT'S YOUR LAST MEETING? YEP.
IS NEXT THIS, OH, THE NEXT ONE IS MAY, MAY, MAY WOULD BE MIKE, NOT SAY GOODBYE YET.
SO, SO IF NOTHING ELSE, I'LL SEE YOU AT THE JUNE AWARDS.