[CALL TO ORDER]
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UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL THE SEVENTH, 2025.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE VICE MAYOR LUDO? HERE.
[ADJOURNMENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF PERSONNEL MATTERS CONSIDERING THE EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE AND THE APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MS. CRA? YES.
AND I WILL REMIND, UH, ANYONE ATTENDING IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY THAT WE WILL RECONVENE THIS MEETING IN THIS LOCATION AT 7:00 PM THANK YOU.
[RECONVENE (7 P.M.)]
WE WILL RECONVENE THE REGULAR DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 7TH, 2025.AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THAT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TWO RECALL COURT, WHICH IS STANDS, ONE NATION LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
[Memorial Tournament Update]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, RECOGNITION OF THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT UPDATE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY ALLISON LEROY AND DAN SULLIVAN.WELCOME, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
UM, I'M GONNA SET THIS UP FOR DAN AND LET HIM TAKE OVER, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ME BACK LATER WHEN WE, UH, DO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE SIGNED PACKAGE FOR THE TOURNAMENT.
UM, BUT LET MR. SULLIVAN TAKE IT AWAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THE BUTTON.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
I ALWAYS ENJOY COMING, UH, ONCE A YEAR TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPSIDE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH, UH, TOURNAMENT WEEK.
SO, UM, JUST A COUPLE, UH, A FEW FACTS AND FIGURES FOR THE WEEK, UH, FOCUSING ON A NUMBER OF THE DETAILS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.
AGAIN, WE'RE THE WEEK OF MAY 26TH THROUGH JUNE 1ST, WE'RE BACK IN OUR RIGHTFUL PLACE STARTING ON MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, IN THE NEW WORLD OF THE PGA TOUR, WE HAVE A SMALLER FIELD OF 72 PLAYERS.
THAT'S NOW THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT.
UM, THE, THE TOP PLAYERS ON THE PGA TOUR, ATTENDING THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT, PLAYING FOR $20 MILLION, AND THE CONSISTENCY OF CBS SPORTS, GOLF CHANNEL, AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION.
UM, 40 HOURS OF LIVE AND TAPE COVERAGE, 233 COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL EMANATING FROM DUBLIN, OHIO.
AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH OUR CHARITABLE FOCUS ON NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, EAT, LEARN, PLAY FOUNDATION, AND OVER 50 OTHER CHARITIES WITHIN THE CENTRAL OHIO AREA.
WE COULDN'T BE MORE HAPPY AND PLEASED TO, UM, SHARE THAT.
BARBARA NICHOLAS IS OUR HONOREE THIS YEAR.
UM, THE CAPTAIN'S CLUB ANNOUNCED HER, UM, ELECTION LAST YEAR, AND BARBARA IS, UM, IS INDEBTED TO BE RECOGNIZED AS THE HONOREE.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THIS IS OUR 50TH PLANE OF THE MEMORIAL THIS YEAR.
UM, SO YOU GOTTA PLAY IT BEFORE YOU CELEBRATE THE ANNIVERSARY.
SO WE'LL PLAY THE 50TH THIS YEAR AND CELEBRATE THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY IN 2026.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE THOUSANDS OF, UH, PATRONS AND VOLUNTEERS COMING OUR WAY.
UH, A FEW SIGNATURE EVENTS THAT WE WILL FOCUS ON AGAIN THIS YEAR.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF FOUND OUR, UM, OUR SPEED SLOT HERE ON A NUMBER OF THESE AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH FIRST THE LEGENDS LUNCHEON, WHICH WILL BE APRIL 15TH.
AND THAT'LL RECOGNIZE BARBARA AS THE HONOREE.
UM, AND, AND ALL OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR AND BEEN TO THAT IN THE PAST, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO NOT ONLY HAVE YOU THERE, BUT, UM, RECOGNIZE, UH, BARBARA IN THAT SPECIAL WAY.
UH, WE WILL RAISE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL DURING THAT LUNCH AND CONSISTENT OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS WHERE, UM, WE'RE NOW EXCEEDING 16 MILLION.
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKET PICKUP, THIS MAY JUST BE SEEM LIKE A RANDOM SATURDAY ON MAY 10TH, BUT WE HAVE OVER 3,500 VOLUNTEERS THAT WILL COME TO BRIDGE PARK TO PICK UP THEIR, UM, THEIR PACKETS FOR THE WEEK.
UM, KEEP IN MIND THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT, BECAUSE OF OUR, THE WAY WE OPERATE, OUR MANUAL SCOREBOARDS AND OUR CONCESSIONS, WE HAVE DOUBLED THE VOLUNTEERS, ANYBODY ELSE ON, ON TOUR.
AND, UM, THERE IS NO WAY WE COULD RUN THIS EVENT WITHOUT THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE.
AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT OVER THOSE 50 YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ATTRACT SO MUCH INTEREST TO VOLUNTEER.
THE FOUR MILER WILL BE ON THURSDAY, MAY 22ND.
UM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A VERY WELL
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ATTENDED BY NOT ONLY THOSE IN DUBLIN, BUT FROM AROUND CENTRAL OHIO.WE'RE EXCITED TO HOST IT AT MEREFIELD VILLAGE.
OUR HONOREE CEREMONY WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY THE 28TH.
WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL ATTEND TO RECOGNIZE BARBARA AGAIN, OUR BENEFIT CONCERT ON MAY 29TH, WHICH WE'LL ANNOUNCE THE ARTIST HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.
AND, UH, OUR FEST, WHICH IS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY IN THE PARTNERSHIP, NOT ONLY WITH THE CITY OF DUBLIN, BUT WITH BRIDGE PARK HAS BECOME A REALLY GREAT DESTINATION.
WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PARTNER TO, TO HELP THAT GROW THE BOGEY END.
WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THIS WILL BE THE LAST YEAR THAT WE DO WHAT WE CALL THE PARTY AT THE BOGEY END.
SO WE'LL BUILD A TENT AND, AND HAVE, UH, THE TRADITIONAL BANDS.
AND THEN WE EXPECT GREAT THINGS STARTING IN 26 AND BEYOND.
AND THEN OUR FINAL ROUND ON, ON SUNDAY, JUNE 1ST.
ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS I COME HERE EACH YEAR IS TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE CREATIVE THAT WE'D LIKE TO PLACE AROUND, UH, BRIDGE PARK.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'LL OFFER UP AT THE PAVILION.
UM, WE'RE REALLY PROUD TO SHOW JACK AND BARBARA AT BARBARA AS THE HONOREE, AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL, WILL FEEL GREAT ABOUT THEIR CONNECTION WITH THOSE TWO AS WELL AS OUR WINNER.
UM, AND SCOTTY SCHEFFLER ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO INCLUDE THE, UH, DISC GOLF EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR THE LAST, I THINK, THREE YEARS.
AND IT'S REALLY RECEDE WELL, I SEE DRIVING BY EVERY DAY.
WE SEE PLENTY OF PEOPLE OUT THERE UTILIZING THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND HAPPY WITH, WITH HOW WE'RE UTILIZING THE PARK.
UM, WE'LL PUT THESE DISPLAY GOLF BALLS OUT AGAIN AS WE HAVE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
THEN UTILIZE POLE BANNERS TO NOT ONLY CELEBRATE FOUR FEST, BUT ALSO OUR, UM, ATTENDING PLAYERS, SOME OF THE TREATMENTS AROUND THE ELEVATORS AROUND BRIDGE PARK.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, WHAT WE THINK IS ICONIC, THE ABILITY TO PLACE OUR WINNER ON THE SIDE OF AC MARRIOTT EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND, UH, SCOTTY'S GOT A GREAT POSE FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE'LL PUT UP THERE.
UM, AND THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONNECTION WITH THE AC MARRIOTT.
UM, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, WORKDAY REALLY TAKES OVER THE AC MARRIOTT AND IS PROUD TO DO SO.
THEY BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY AND USE THAT AS THEIR HOME BASE.
UH, AND THEN THIS LAST SLIDE WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF, UM, HOW WE COLLABORATED WITH THE CITY LAST YEAR TO BRING A DRONE SHOW.
UM, AND IT WAS AN EPIC NIGHT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.
HOPEFULLY YOU WERE AS PROUD AS WE WERE.
UM, BUT THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND YOU AS LEADERS IS, UH, SECOND TO NONE AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED.
SO OUR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE DUBLIN, OHIO, OUR ABILITY TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF DUBLIN SAFELY AND COMFORTABLY THROUGH OUR PARKING AND TRAFFIC, THE SAFETY THAT WE WORK WITH, UH, THE DUBLIN, UM, SAFETY DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE'RE LEADING THE WAY AND ENSURE THAT EVERYONE'S SAFE.
OUR HOSPITALITY ON GOLF COURSE AND OFF WITH CITY OF DUBLIN AND WHAT YOU GUYS DO AROUND THE GOLF COURSE IS TREMENDOUS.
AGAIN, THE FEST LEADERBOARD BREAKFAST WE'RE BRINGING BACK IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND, AND ONE COLUMBUS AS WELL AS JOBS OHIO.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BOGEY BEFORE.
AND THEN, UH, OUR VARIOUS EVENTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, FAMILY NIGHT, WHICH IS OVER AT SAFARI, OUR SALUTE THE SERVICE ON WEDNESDAY, FOLDS OF HONOR FRIDAY.
AGAIN, RECOGNIZE THE MILITARY AND THEN PLAY YELLOW SUNDAY.
UM, THAT'S A LOT THAT WE DO IN ONE WEEK.
WE WISH THAT WE COULD SPREAD IT OUT OVER A NUMBER OF WEEKS, BUT WE'VE GOT SEVEN DAYS TO GET IT RIGHT.
I THINK WE ARE, WE'RE DOING AN OKAY JOB TO, TO BRING IT ALL TOGETHER.
WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAD ANY.
UH, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU GUYS ON, UM, GETTING THE TV COMMENTATORS TO SAY THAT THIS TOURNAMENT IS HAPPENING IN DUBLIN AND NOT IN COLUMBUS.
YEAH, THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING IT BECAUSE NO, REALLY, IT TOOK A WHILE YEAH.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER THING I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST YOUR MARKETING.
I THINK IT ADDS A LOT TO THE CITY.
IT'S BIG, IT'S BOLD AND IT'S INTERESTING.
AND THE FINAL QUESTION THAT I'M GETTING ALL THE TIME IS I SAW YOUR SITE PLAN, I THINK SO DO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE BOGEY END.
IS THERE A COMPLETION DATE FOR THAT? WELL, WE GOTTA GET A START DATE FIRST,
UM, AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT START DATE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMPLETION DATE AND WE HOPE TO BE DONE IN THE OPEN BY THE 26TH MEMORIAL.
WELL, AS ALWAYS, WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE ATTENTION THAT YOU BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY FROM AROUND THE GLOBE.
AND, UH, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT PERHAPS AUGUSTA GOT WHAT THE INCLEMENT WEATHER TODAY, AND THAT WILL BE OFF FOR, UH, FOR THE, WE'LL ENJOY ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL WEEK AS WE DID LAST YEAR, BUT CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU DO, WHAT YOU BRING TO THE CITY, THE BUSINESS AND MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE AND, AND REALLY THE WORK THAT EVERYONE DOES TO SHOWCASE WHAT A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT WE ALL ENJOY CALLING HOME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THIS BRINGS US TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.
UM, AS A REMINDER, YOU WERE ASKED
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TO SIGN IN AT THE KIOSK OUTSIDE.IF YOU DID NOT HAVE OPPORTUNITY, UM, WE, WE WILL ACCEPT THAT, BUT THIS IS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.
LINDSAY, DO WE HAVE COMMENTS ON ANYTHING? NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
NO ONE FOR THIS PART OF THE AGENDA.
ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT IS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA THAT'S PRESENT HERE THIS EVENING? NO.
UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 17TH 20.
WHAT, THERE'S SOMEBODY ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, OR DID YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM YOU WERE REFERENCED? VERY GOOD.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.
MY NAME IS DAVID VINNEY FROM 56 SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET.
I COME TO, UH, SPEAK ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
UM, LAST WEEK, THE RESIDENTS ON MY STREET RECEIVED A LETTER ABOUT THE, UH, DOWNTOWN HISTORIC BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS IN PHASE TWO, UM, BEING THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH HIGH STREET, INCLUDING HIGH STREET, BLACKSMITH LANE, AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT, UM, SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET.
UH, I'VE HEARD A GOOD BIT FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT NOT CONCERNED, BUT LIKE DISAPPOINTED THAT OUR STREET WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE POLE REMOVAL AND BURIAL OF ALL THE UTILITIES.
UM, WE SEE THE BEAUTIFUL WORK THAT WAS DONE ACROSS HIGH STREET, SPECIFICALLY ON FRANKLINTON.
I MEAN, IF YOU GO TO GOOGLE MAPS AND LOOK AT THE WAY IT WAS, AND THEN THE WAY IT IS, IT'S JUST A RADICAL TRANSFORMATION.
UM, I SUPPOSE WE WERE JUST HOPING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF THAT SHINE ON OUR STREET BY REMOVING THE POLES AND GETTING THE, THE UTILITIES BURIED.
UM, SPEAKING TO A NEIGHBOR THAT WAS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, UH, SPRING HILL AND SOUTH RIVERVIEW, SHE WAS INFORMED BY THE CITY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE REAR TELEPHONE POLE AND LEAVING THE ONE IN THE FRONT OF HER STREET, WHICH MEANS TO ME, I SUPPOSE, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BEARING THE LINE FROM WHERE THAT REAR POLE WAS TO THE FRONT POLE, UM, AT RIVERVIEW STREET AND THEN GOING UP AND FEEDING ACROSS.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO GET LIKE THAT CLOSE TO LIKE GOING UNDER THE STREET AND GETTING THAT SIDE DONE.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TEASE, SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY, AND SOME OF MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROCESS.
UM, SO IT'S MAYBE TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING, BUT IT JUST WOULD BE NICE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW PARK GOING IN AND US BEING THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY TO THAT PARK SYSTEM TO REMOVE THOSE POLES AND JUST MAKE THE AREA A LITTLE BIT MORE BEAUTIFUL.
UM, WE CAN HAVE A STAFF MEMBER, PERHAPS JENNY OR ONE OF HER TEAM CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THE PLANNING EFFORTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY AND, UH, PRIORITIES OF THE CITY.
ANYONE ELSE ON ITEMS? NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA? HEARING NONE.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
UH, IS THERE A REQUEST OR MOVE ANY ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT CONSISTS OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 17TH REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING? HEARING NONE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDAS THERE A SECOND.JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. KEELER? YES.
PURSUANT TO THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER, I AM MAKING A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE ORDER OF ORDINANCES FOR SECOND READING THIS EVENING.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH ORDINANCE ZERO EIGHT DASH 25, AND THEN CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA AS PUBLISHED ORDINANCE
[Ordinance 08-25]
0 8 25 AUTHORIZING THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN INCENTIVES TO WAYLAND AND COMPANY CPAS, INC.TO INDUCE IT TO LOCATE AND EXPAND ITS OFFICE IN ITS ASSOCIATED OPERATIONS AND WORKFORCE WITHIN THE CITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD THIS EVENING BY LUKE FLEMING.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGES TO THIS LEGISL LEGISLATION.
UM, I DID WANT TO INTRODUCE THOUGH, UH, LISA, UH, NESSEN, UH, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF WAYLON CPAS, AND ALLOW LISA TONIGHT TO, UH, TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL.
IF YOU COULD PRESS YOUR BUTTON SO YOUR LIGHT WOULD COME ON, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
UM, I AM HERE TO REPRESENT THE TEAM AT WAYLON CPAS IN EXPRESSING MY GRATITUDE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF, UH, THE INCENTIVE PAYMENT.
UM, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR MOVE.
UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BECOME A PART OF THE DUBLIN COMMUNITY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR MANY, UH, BEAUTIFUL AREAS AS WELL AS AMENITIES.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS.
I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.
WE ARE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU AND, UH, WELCOME TO DUBLIN.
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IT'S A, WAYLON IS A LONGSTANDING BUSINESS, AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED THAT YOU WILL BE CALLING DUBLIN HOME.JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MR. KEELER? YES.
[Ordinance 07-25]
ZERO SEVEN DASH 25 AMENDMENTS TO ZONING CODE SECTION 1 5 3 0 2 1 5 3 0 4 1 5 3 0 3 7 THROUGH 1 5 3 0.042 AND 1 5 3 0.236.REGARDING THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, 1, 5 3 0.0 0 2 1 5 3 0 4 8 1 5 3 0 6 6 1 5, 3 0.176 REGARDING THE CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW PROCESS, 1 5 3 0.158 REGARDING TEMPORARY SIGNS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND 1 5 3 0.076 REGARDING PROPERTY NUISANCE REGULATIONS.
AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY JENNY ROUSE.
UM, AS YOU, AS JENNY SHARED, WE ARE HERE, UM, TO TALK ABOUT SOME PROPOSED ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS, WHICH WERE INTRODUCED, UM, AT THE MARCH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
AND WE PROVIDED A VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION, UM, TO COUNCIL GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THOSE WERE.
UM, GIVEN SOME OF THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS RECEIVED OVER THE WEEKEND, I HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES JUST TO SPECIFICALLY HONE IN ON, UM, THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT PORTION OF THE DISCUSSION.
UM, AND I WANNA JUST SHARE THOSE WITH YOU TONIGHT AND THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, WHEN I'M DONE.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED AND JENNY SHARED, UM, WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE, THERE ARE FOUR COMPONENTS TO THIS CONCEPT PLAN AND TEMPORARY SIGN REGULATIONS.
NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE FROM THE FIRST READING OF THAT.
UM, THOSE RE PROPOSED REGULATIONS, THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SECTION, UM, COUNCIL HAD A NUMBER OF FOLLOW-UP ITEMS, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, CLARIFICATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE MEMO AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH ANY OF THOSE IF THERE ARE FURTHER QUESTIONS.
BUT, UM, STAFF DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SECTION.
SO ONLY SOME MINOR CLERICAL TYPO, UM, ITEMS WERE MADE TO THAT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.
UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE, UM, CHANGES ARE, WHICH WERE VERY MINOR IN NATURE, BUT IN REFERENCE TO COUNCIL'S, UM, FEEDBACK AT THE FIRST READING ARE RELATED TO THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
UM, SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE FIRST READING, UM, THE COMMUNITY PLAN, UM, FOR ENVISION, THE ENVISION DUBLIN COMMUNITY PLAN, UM, INCLUDED, UM, UPDATES TO THE WEST INNOVATION SPECIAL AREA PLAN DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN THE REGION AND HELP FOSTER FUTURE GROWTH.
SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UM, TO THE CODE REALLY HELP US TO HONE IN ON, UM, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE CURRENT CODE HAS FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN, UM, WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION THAT REALLY ARE SPECIFIC TO THE USES AND CHARACTER DESIRED WITHIN THOSE FIVE DISTRICTS.
UM, SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO CALL OUT THAT THE CURRENT CODE WITHIN THE INNOVATION TWO DISTRICT, WHICH ALIGNS WITH OUR FLEX INNOVATION DESIGNATION IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, CURRENTLY ALLOWS ASSEMBLY AND MANUFACTURING AS A CONDITIONAL USE AND DATA CENTERS AS A PERMITTED USE.
AND THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT AS I TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CHANGES ARE HERE.
BUT OUR, OUR ULTIMATE GOAL WITH THESE AMENDMENTS IS REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S BETTER ALIGNMENT WITH THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THAT COMMUNITY PLANNING PROCESS.
UM, WHICH AGAIN, WAS ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND A NUMBER OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THAT, UM, WHICH COUNCIL ADOPTED, UM, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT HOW TO IMPROVE THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER KEY COMPONENT TO WHY WE'RE BRINGING THESE FORWARD.
UM, AS WELL AS HELPING TO FURTHER THE CONVERSATION AND MAKING SURE AS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS COME FORWARD, WE'RE REMOVING ANY BARRIERS TO, TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT AREA.
UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UM, REALLY TRIES TO DO SO WHAT WAS PRESENTED, UM, TO THE, AT THE FIRST READING RELATED TO THE INNOVATION, UM, DISTRICT TWO CHANGES, AGAIN TO ALIGN WITH THE PLAN IS MAKING ASSEMBLY AND MANUFACTURING, MOVING THAT FROM A CONDITIONAL USE TO A PERMITTED USE, AS WELL AS THEN TAKING DATA CENTERS FROM A PERMITTED USE TO A CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THAT IS REALLY TO ALIGN THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, UM, OUTLINES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
THE OTHER, UM, AMENDMENTS WITHIN THE WID THAT WE, UM, PROVIDED AS PART OF THE FIRST READING WAS REPLACING REFERENCES TO THE PREVIOUS DOCUMENT, WHICH WAS CALLED THE ECONOMIC ADVANCEMENT ZONE.
SO CHANGING THAT TO ALIGN WITH THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, UM, LANGUAGE.
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AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDED LANGUAGE IN THE, UM, REGULATIONS THAT WHEN PROPERTIES ARE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THAT THOSE WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT ZONING AS OPPOSED TO OUR SORT OF STANDARD RURAL ZONING.UM, UM, AS YOUR COUNCIL'S AWARE, WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THIS WEST INNOVATION INTEGRATED IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON UTILITIES AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
OUR, UM, ASSUMPTION AS PART OF THAT PLAN HAS BEEN THAT THE LAND USE STAYS AS WHAT WAS ADOPTED WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
SO ANY CHANGES COULD BE TO TWEAKS WITHIN THE CODE TO ALIGN MORE FULLY WITH THAT.
BUT THE ASSUMPTION AS PART OF THAT IS NOT, IS TO GO WITH WHAT WAS ADOPTED AS PART OF THAT COMMUNITY PLAN BECAUSE THAT WAS SUCH A THOUGHTFUL PROCESS.
UM, SO THE FOLLOW-UP ITEMS THAT COUNCIL, UM, RAISED AT THE FIRST READING THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED WERE, UM, ADDING EVERGREEN PLANT MATERIAL, UM, TO THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT.
UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD, UM, LIMITED DECIDUOUS AND SORT OF LOW, LOW, LOW GROUND SHRUBBERY.
UM, SO WE ADDED EVERGREEN SCREENING, UM, TO THAT.
WE ALSO THEN PROVIDED, UM, UPDATED LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT WHERE THE MOUNDING IS HAPPENING, WHAT SETBACKS ARE BEING REQUIRED AND PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE CLARIFIED WITHIN THE MEMO THAT THE LIGHTING STANDARDS MEET OUR GENERAL LIGHTING CODE.
UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER ITEM, UM, THAT STAFF IDENTIFIED IS THE RESEARCH SUPPORT BUFFER, UM, WAS SHOWN AS A STRIKE THROUGH AT THE BEGINNING, UM, OF THE, OF THE CODE SECTION, BUT REALLY SHOULD ONLY BE LIMITED TO REPLACING THE EAZ LANGUAGE AND THE WI ZONING.
SO THAT NEEDS TO REMAIN AT THIS POINT.
WE'LL JUST CHANGE, UM, JUST CHANGE THAT PARTICULAR SECTION 'CAUSE IT HAS SOME CASCADING EFFECTS.
SO, UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, AS, AS I SHARED, UM, AT THE FIRST READING, UM, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE A RB THAT WAS PARTICULAR TO THE CONCEPT PLAN PORTION PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED ALL FOUR SECTIONS AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
SO WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DEAL SOME, THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, WE'LL TAKE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL TAKE SUBSEQUENT AFTER THAT.
SO, LINDSAY, YOU WANNA READ THE FIRST NAME ON THE LIST? I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, BUT THERESA WHITE DID SIGN IN TO SPEAK ON, UH, ZERO SEVEN DASH 25 AND ZERO SIX DASH 25.
SO THERESA WHITE IF YOU SAVE MY
ANYONE ELSE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES SIR.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.
UM, YOUR MIC WILL BE TURNED ON AND IF YOU COULD START WITH STATING IT'S ON THERE.
IF YOU COULD START WITH STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
RICHARD MUSMAN LIVE IN BALANCER WOODS.
CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USE SPECIFICALLY AS IT APPLIES TO THE DATA CENTER? SURE.
SO A PERMITTED USE, UM, WOULD BE A USE THAT IS PERMITTED OUTRIGHT IN THE DISTRICT.
A CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, UM, AND FOR THE CITY, A CONDITIONAL USE GOES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
SO IT HAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT DEAL WITH ADVERSE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY.
AND RELATIVE TO THE CODE THAT'S BEING CHANGED, CAN YOU TALK TO THE MOUND HEIGHT SETBACK AND BUILDING HEIGHTS, OR IS THAT GONNA BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT? UH, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT.
OR IF YOU ALL NO, THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ZONING FOR THE, UH, THE CODE AMENDMENT RIGHT PORTION.
IF IT'S NOT IN THE CODE, IT CAN'T HAPPEN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEFORE SHE STARTS ON THE EXPLANATION? IS THAT THE END OF YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S IT.
OKAY, SO I'M GONNA PULL THIS UP HERE SO I CAN LOOK AT IT AND SPEAK, SPEAK TO THAT.
SO WHAT WAS ADDED, UM, TO THE CODE FROM THE LAST TIME WAS, UM, PARTICULAR TO THE SETBACKS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, WE ADDED A SECTION THAT SAYS, UM, FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN THE ID TWO AND THREE, 150 FOOT BUILDING AND PAVEMENT SETBACK IS REQUIRED FROM PROPERTY LINES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A SECTION HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHEN SETBACKS CONFLICT WITH THE WEST INNOVATION SPECIAL AREA PLAN, THE GREATER SETBACK SHALL APPLY.
SO IN THAT INSTANCE, PARTICULARLY ON COS GRAY, THAT'S 200 FEET, SO NOT IN NOT EVERY INSTANCE IT, WE THINK 200 WAS APPROPRIATE.
SO WE WERE MAKING SURE THAT AT A MINIMUM, IF IT ABUTS RESIDENTIAL, IT'S 150.
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IF IT'S, IF THE COMMUNITY PLAN A SPECIAL AREA PLAN RECOMMENDS MORE, THEN YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE MORE.UM, SO THAT WAS THE ONE CHANGE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SIMILAR TO, UM, LET'S SEE HERE FOR THE MOUNDING, WE ALSO INCLUDED ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE, UM, THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE WITHIN THAT SETBACK.
UM, AMOUNT OF, I BELIEVE IT'S AN, LIKE AN AVERAGE OF 12, 12 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT IN HERE.
SCREENING AND BUFFERING FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHEN ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, PROPERTIES LOCATED IN ZONING DISTRICTS ID TWO AND THREE SHALL PROVIDE MOUNTING WITHIN THE REQUIRED SETBACK AND SHALL VARY IN HEIGHT BETWEEN FOUR AND 14 WITH A TYPICAL HEIGHT OF 12 LANDSCAPING SHALL BE PLANTED IN A NATURAL PATTERN WITH A MIX OF DECIDUOUS AND EVERGREEN AND NATIVE UNDERSTORY SHRUBS ALONG THE STREET SIDE OF THE MOUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL SCREENING.
SO THE WHOLE GOAL AGAIN, IS THAT YOU HAVE THE SIGNIFICANT SETBACK, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MOUND THAT'S HIGH, AND AGAIN, WE WANT THAT TO BE AS CLOSE TO THE STREET AS POSSIBLE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE THAT RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, IF IT'S THE TYPICAL 12 FEET WITH LANDSCAPING, THAT'S YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BLOCK, UM, VISUAL BLOCK FROM, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND BUILDING HEIGHT WAS THE THIRD PORTION, I BELIEVE OF HIS QUESTION.
SO IF YOU COULD ADDRESS BUILDING HEIGHTS.
SO BUILDING HEIGHT IS TYPICALLY RELATED TO THE SETBACK.
SO IN THESE INSTANCES WHERE, UM, YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK, THEY'RE ALREADY EXCEEDING WHAT THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE.
SO LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, YOUR BUILDING, UM, WITHIN ID TWO, AND YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S GREATER THAN 51 FEET, THE MINIMUM SETBACK IS 50.
BUT WE ALSO SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET THAT EITHER 150 OR 200 FOOT ABOVE.
SO YOU'RE ALREADY, THE, THE BASE CODE IS VERY, VERY SMALL SETBACK.
BUT WHAT THIS ADDITION PARTICULAR TO THOSE PROPERTIES RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE 150 OR 200 DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN SAYS.
AND IS THERE AN ULTIMATE HEIGHT RESTRICTION? WE DO NOT HAVE THAT, AND THE CURRENT CODE DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THE CODE? SURE.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
CHRISTIAN COONEY 58 35 BARENS COURT WAY, UH, IN BALL TREE.
UM, I TRIED TO FIND THE WEST INNOVATION SPECIAL AREA PLAN TODAY.
I TOOK THE PHRASE, I COPIED IT INTO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND I GOT A PAGE FULL OF BLUE REFERENCE NOTES.
AND THE ONLY THING I COULD FIND IN THERE WAS THE 2017, UM, UH, WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT PLAN.
AND THAT PLAN HAD BALANCE RATES SURROUNDED PRETTY MUCH TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH WITH RESIDENTIAL, UH, SOME FORM OF RESIDENTIAL, UM, DIFFERENT SIZED LOTS, BUT IT WAS SORT OF AVERAGED OUT TO BALANCE RAY'S STANDARD, UH, LOOK OR LOT SIZE.
AND, UM, I THEN TRACED, CHASED THIS THING DOWN TO SOME NEW PLAN THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER RECENTLY.
AND LOOKING AT BALANCE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SURROUNDED ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY BY WHERE WE HAD BEEN INSULATED, IF YOU WILL, BY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
THE NEW PLAN IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH NOTHING BUT FLEX SPACE AND INDUSTRIAL.
AND SO AGAIN, I I'M NOT, THIS IS ALL VERY TECHNICAL AND VERY, AND, AND I'M SORRY, BUT I COULDN'T REALLY HEAR WHAT WAS BEING SAID.
UM, THE ONE THING I DID PICK UP ON THOUGH IS THAT THIS IS PART OF THIS PLAN ON CHANGING THESE THINGS IS TO REMOVE BARRIERS TO DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT I, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE DOES THAT PLAY INTO WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND PUT SOMETHING IN? RIGHT.
WE HAD A VERY ROBUST PROCESS FOR THE HOSPITAL, FOR INSTANCE, GREAT SOLUTION, GLAD THEY WERE THERE, ACTUALLY WALKED TO THERE FOR PHYSICAL THERAPY THIS MORNING.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS GONNA ALLOW THINGS TO GET LOCKED INTO PLACE AND PEOPLE JUST BE ABLE TO START BANGING DEVELOPMENT OUT IN OUR AREA.
AND I, I GUESS MY, MY COMMENT IS I COULDN'T FIND THE REFERENCE DOCUMENT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT WAS BEING USED, UM, BY PUTTING IT INTO CITY'S SEARCH BAR ON THE, ON THE SITE.
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ONE IS, IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS MOVING AND THERE'S LATER, THERE'S GONNA BE HUGE TRACKS OF LAND, 700 ACRES OR 300 ACRES OR SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE LOOKED TO BE REZONED.AND SOME OF THAT ZONING WAS, I THOUGHT THE CITY BOUGHT THE SPORTS OHIO TO TURN THAT INTO A WORLD CLASS SPORTS AREA.
AND, AND YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN AND THE SPORTS AREA, SPORTS OHIO IS NOW FLEX BASE.
SO I GUESS I'M JUST, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO APPROACH CITY COUNCIL 'CAUSE I'M JUST CONFUSED AS HELL ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
WHAT, WHEN DID THE CITY COME UP WITH A BRAND NEW PLAN THAT MOVED OUR BUFFER AREA FROM RESIDENTIAL TO FLEX SPACE AND INDUSTRIAL.
AND HOW DID THAT NOT BECOME TOPICAL? I'M ON THE CITY'S MAILING LIST, NEVER SAW IT.
ANYWAY, I, I'M JUST, UM, I'M JUST BAFFLED FRANKLY, UM, ON WHAT THE, THESE CHANGES ARE, WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE.
IT'S ALL VERY, IT'S BASICALLY TECHNICAL JARGON AND AS A RESIDENT ALL I, I FEEL LIKE THE CITY IS TRYING TO SLIP ME AT MICKEY, AND I AM, I'M VERY CONCERNED.
UM, AGAIN, WOKE UP THIS MORNING, WENT TO BED LAST NIGHT, BALANCE TREE WAS INSULATED WITH RESIDENTIAL.
WOKE UP THIS MORNING AFTER GETTING A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS FROM SOME NEIGHBORS TELLING ME TO WAKE UP AND PAY ATTENTION.
AND, UH, FOUND OUT WE WERE NOW SURROUNDED BY FLEX SPACE AND INDUSTRIAL.
I I THINK THOSE COMMENTS ARE LARGELY AROUND THE ZONING CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL BE HAVING.
SO WE WILL TRY TO CONCLUDE WITH THE, UM, WITH THE, THE CODE PORTION.
SO IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE CODE OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CODE.
UM, YES SIR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
HI, I AM KURT SMITH, 66 92 ROUNDSTONE LOOP IN DUBLIN.
UM, I'M INTENDED TO COMMENT ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AS WELL, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THESE CODE CHANGES, ONCE THESE CODE CHANGES ARE SOLIDIFIED, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO CHANGE, UH, CHANGE THOSE THEN IT IS TO CONSIDER WHAT'S HAPPENING BEFORE THOSE CHANGES ARE MADE.
I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED THAT THERE ISN'T SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THE CODES REGARDING, UM, MORE, MORE SPECIFICS AROUND NOISE.
AND, UM, THAT, THAT IS A CONCERN TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT DATA CENTERS.
AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT IS HARD AND FAST IN THE PLANS, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING IN CODE REGARDING DATA CENTERS AND, UM, AND NOISE, UH, NOISE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE CITY, I THINK WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR PROBLEMS AND FIGHTS THAT WE MAY NOT NEED TO FIGHT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MORE PLANNING BEFORE WE START TAKING CARE OF, UM, ORDINANCES.
UM, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CITY THIS AFTERNOON, THIS MORNING, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I WENT OUT TO THE AMAZON DATA WAREHOUSE AND BY MY, UM, CALLAWAY GOLF RANGE FINDER, WE WERE 317 YARDS.
WE WERE OUT IN DAIRY FIELD, UM, 317 YARDS FROM THE BUILDING.
AND YOU ALL WILL GET A COPY OF THE VIDEO THAT I SHOT THERE WITH THE SOUNDTRACK, BUT IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME, I'LL PLAY A QUICK CLIP FROM IT SO THAT WE CAN ALL HEAR.
THIS WAS JUST WITH MY PHONE AND MY PHONE RECORDS CLEAN, UM, WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S IN A, IN A QUIET SETTING, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD, 317 YARDS AWAY, THAT'S OVER 900 FEET, UM, WHICH IS WAY BEYOND THE SETBACKS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
THEN WE DROVE DOWN THE ROAD ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE OR A HALF MILE DOWN THE ROAD AND PARKED IN A DRIVEWAY OF ONE OF THE VERY FIRST HOUSE PASSED, UM, UH, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND, UH, WE GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND LISTENED AND WE COULD STILL HEAR THE NOISE, UM,
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A HALF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD.SO I, I JUST THINK WE, WE MIGHT BE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BEFORE WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED THOUGHT AND, UH, PUT A LITTLE MORE DETAILED ENERGY, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE NOISE ISSUES AND SETBACKS AND HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THE BUFFERS TO GROW, THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, THE VIDEO THAT I SENT YOU SHOWS THE BUFFERS AROUND THE AMAZON AND THERE ARE EVERGREENS AND CEDARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AROUND THERE, BUT THEY WILL TAKE YEARS TO MATURE.
IT WAS MY UNDER, OH, JENNY, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU, THAT THERE WAS INCLUDED NOISE, UH, UPDATES FROM OUR LAST READING TO THIS READING.
SO WE DID NOT PROPOSE CHANGES TO THE CODE.
WE DO HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE, UM, WITHIN THE CITY, UM, AND THAT'S HOW NOISE IS GOVERNED.
IF OR FOR THE, UM, ID TWO DATA CENTERS GOING TO A CONDITIONAL USE, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL THAT COULD BE REVIEWED AS PART OF THAT CONDITIONAL USE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING, UM, INCLUDED AS PART OF PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW.
UH, ANYONE ELSE ON THE ZONING ASPECT, OR I'M SORRY, ON THE CODE ZONING CODE, UM, ASPECT OF THIS CONVERSATION, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
HE, I'M, UH, 58 24 HOCHER ROAD.
SO MY PROPERTY WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE ANNEX.
AND I LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IN THE CODE IS THERE ANY WATER, UH, CONTAMINANT CONTROLS.
I'M ON A WELL AND I'M A SEPTIC SYSTEM, UM, BEEN THERE FOR ALMOST 25 YEARS, SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN THE CODE FOR WATER MANAGEMENT.
ALSO, ALL THE WATER FLOWS FROM, BASICALLY FROM THE, THE RAILROAD TRACK ALL THE WAY DOWN TOWARDS, UH, RINGS ROAD.
SO WATER MANAGEMENT, YOU CAN GO OUT THERE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S FLOODED, UH, COMPLETELY.
MY POND IS OVER THE, OVER ITS BANKS.
SO ALL THE TILES ARE, YOU KNOW, FIELD TILE.
CURRENTLY, THEY'RE LIKE 12 INCHES TO 10 INCHES.
SO ALL THE WATER FLOWS RIGHT THROUGH THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW ON THE FARMLAND.
SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WATER MANAGEMENT AND ALSO CONTAMINATION IF WE'RE GONNA PUT LIGHT INDUSTRY, LIGHT INDUSTRY INTO THIS AREA.
SO I'M ON A WELL, SO STORM WATER MANAGEMENT WOULD BE HANDLED, UM, THROUGH OUR TYPICAL STORM WATER MANAGEMENT STORM WATER MANUAL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS QUALITY AND QUANTITY.
SO YOU HAVE TO CLEAN THE WATER BEFORE YOU RELEASE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE, UM, MAINTAINED.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE WANT, UH, ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TO, TO MAKE SURE THE SUSTAINABLE PRINCIPLES ARE, ARE ADHERED TO.
UM, SO THAT, THAT THE CODE ADDRESSES STORM WATER, UM, RELATED TO THAT AND THE WELL ISSUE, I GUESS I'M GONNA HAVE TO MAYBE ASK PAUL TO CHIME IN ON THAT IF HE HAS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.
YEAH, AND WE TYPICALLY WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS ON ANY GROUNDWATER ISSUES AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE IMPACTS AS PART OF THE REVIEW OF ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS.
SO THEY WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY WERE DEEMED TO HAVE, UH, NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
ANYONE ELSE ON THE, UH, THE ZONING CODE PORTION AMENDMENT? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I'M MARK MCIS, UH, 7 0 6 9 WINDROSE WAY.
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT SETBACKS 50 FEET, 150 FEET, 200 FEET.
WHERE IS THAT FROM? WHAT'S THE ORIGIN OF THE STARTING POINT FOR THOSE MEASUREMENTS? UH, SECOND COMMENT I HAVE IS WITH REGARDS TO THE NOISE THAT CAME UP, THE NOISE DISCUSSION, I'M ACTUALLY A RETIRED ACOUSTICAL ENGINEER FROM NASA IN CLEVELAND.
SO I HAVE A VERY GOOD BACKGROUND IN AC NOISE AND NOISE ABATEMENT.
AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS I WANTED TO MAKE IS I HEARD ABOUT A 12 FOOT EARTH AND WALL TO KIND OF PREVENT A LINE OF SIGHT OF THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH.
HOWEVER, THE, IN TERMS OF NOISE ABATEMENT, LINE OF SIGHT IS WHAT YOU NEED.
SO IF THE BUILDING'S HIGHER THAN 12 FEET AND THE NOISE IS EMANATING FROM THAT BUILDING, THE, THE WALL WILL NOT HELP IF YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING FROM THAT 12 FOOT WALL AND YOU CAN GET NOISE ABOVE IT.
SO THAT WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY KIND OF NOISE ABATEMENT.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
ANY, ANY, THE SETBACK IS MAJORED FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
FROM WHERE? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE RIGHT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IS THAT LIKE THE CENTER LINE OF COS GRAY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? NO, IT'S THE, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
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THAT.OKAY, ANY OTHERS ON THE ZONING CODE ITSELF? HEARING NONE, UH, WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
UM, SO FIRST I'LL START JUST BY ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION IS THE CODE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS EXISTING CODE.
THIS IS NOT NEW CODE CREATED FOR THIS REZONING.
SO THIS CODE, I BELIEVE HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE MAYBE 2016.
I, I REMEMBER WRITING THIS CODE WHEN, WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING, SO PROBABLY 20 15, 20 16, 14.
IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS.
WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO TONIGHT WAS TO REMEDY A FEW THINGS WE'VE NOTICED IN THE CODE THAT WEREN'T WORKING OR THAT WE WANTED TO IMPROVE.
SO THE, I WANNA THANK STAFF FOR THE, THE THINGS I ASKED FOR LAST TIME.
UM, THE WORDING THAT YOU ADDED, I BELIEVE FIXED MY ISSUE WITH THE FRONT REAR SIDE.
I, I LIKE HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING IT BY PROPERTY LINE.
SO YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS AND I AM HAPPY WITH THE CHANGES TO THIS CODE.
THAT BEING SAID, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER AREAS OF OUR CODE, FOR EXAMPLE, NOISE OR MAYBE EVEN OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UM, THAT MAY NEED REVISIONS AND MAY NEED IMPROVED.
UM, APPROVING THIS CODE TONIGHT DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM IMPROVING OTHER SECTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS EXISTING CODE, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THE CHANGES WE'RE ASKING TO BE MADE AND THIS CODE TONIGHT ARE PRETTY MINIMAL.
UM, THEY'VE ALSO BEEN BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SEVERAL TIMES, UH, BEFORE THEY CAME HERE, BEFORE THEY CAME HERE, WHAT, TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO I AM HAPPY WITH THE CODE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS.
SO YOU, YOU SET ME UP BEAUTIFULLY.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOISE GLARE ARE ALREADY ADDRESSED IN THE CODE.
AND I THINK THAT THE CONCERN THAT I'M HEARING IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE TRACKS OF LAND IS GONNA CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE, ADDITIONAL, UH, LIGHT, UH, POLLUTION, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN ADDRESS.
PART OF THEM ARE ADDRESSED ALREADY IN THE, THE, UH, CODE THAT WE'RE REAPP APPROVING THIS EVENING.
WITH RESPECT TO THE NOISE AND DATA CENTERS.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FOX AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN THIS WAS WAS MENTIONED, MENTIONED THAT AMAZON IN OTHER CITIES HAS ACTUALLY RECTIFIED THAT SITUATION AS THE, THE, THE LAST SPEAKER POINTED OUT.
THE HEIGHT AT WHICH THAT NOISE IS CREATED DETERMINES THE HEIGHT AT WHICH YOU NEED TO CREATE A BARRIER.
SO AMAZON HAS CREATED BARRIERS AROUND THEIR FANS IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THIS WAS AN ISSUE TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO GLARE AND LIGHT THAT ALSO WAS ADDRESSED.
AND AS, UH, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR POINTED OUT, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE, THAT A DATA CENTER WOULD BE APPROVED AS A CONDITIONAL USE, THEY WOULD COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND HAVE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE VERY SPECIFIC POTENTIAL NUISANCES.
SO WE, WE HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THIS CODE HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2014, THE COMMUNITY PLAN IN VISION DUBLIN WAS A ABOUT AN 18 MONTH PUBLIC PROCESS.
SO THESE TRACKS OF LAND HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION, UH, PRIMARY FOCUS OF THAT PARTICULAR BODY FOR, FOR 18 MONTHS.
AND ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THE REASON I FEEL DIFFERENTLY IS BECAUSE THE CODE IS OLDER AND IT IS IN PLACE, BUT WE NOW HAVE, UM, A NEW, EXCUSE ME, A NEW ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN.
AND IN IT IT CALLS FOR A VARIETY OF INTENTIONS AND ONE OF THEM IS THE LIVE WORK PLAY ASPECT.
THIS CODE RIGHT NOW DOESN'T ADDRESS REALLY THAT ASPECT OF THE INTENT AT ALL.
IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY MENTIONED IN THE INTENDED PURPOSES.
I FEEL AS IF, UM, WE HAVE SOME STUDIES GOING ON.
UM, WHEN WE SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO CREATE AN
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UPSCALE STANDARDS FOR THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, THIS LIVE WORK PLAY BALANCE WAS REALLY AN ESSENTIAL PIECE OF IT.THE ID FOUR, WHICH IS NOW CALLED RESEARCH MIXED USE DOES NOT ADDRESS, UM, AND DOES NOT PERMIT ANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN MIXED USE.
IT DOESN'T PERMIT ANIMAL CARE, EATING OR DRINKING ENTERTAINMENT RECREATION, INDOOR OR OUTDOOR PERSONAL REPAIR, LIBRARY, MUSEUM, GALLERY, PUBLIC ASSEMBLY OR SEASONAL SALES, LIKE A FARMER'S MARKET.
IT ALLOWS ONLY THE RESEARCH MIXED USE.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA WRITE A CODE AND IN THE, AND WE KEEP REFERRING TO THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, UM, AND VISION PLAN, IT HAS 3, 6, 8, 8 DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND OF THOSE EIGHT AREAS, UM, THREE ARE MIXED USE, BUT THEY'RE NOT ADDRESSED IN THIS CODE AT ALL.
UM, ALSO, I KNOW YOU, YOU EXPLAINED ABOUT THE REDLINED, UH, RESEARCH SUPPORT BUFFER, BUT I'M CONFUSED NOW IF ON ID FOUR THERE'S NO REDLINE SUPPORT BUFFER OR MAYBE THERE IS, WHERE ELSE DO WE ALLOW FOR THE INCORPORATION OF THE, OF THE LIVE WORK PLAY AREA? UM, SECONDLY, I FEEL AS IF, IF I GO THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PAGES, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE DATA CENTER ON PAGE SEVEN, THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS AT ALL AS THERE ARE MANY CONDITIONS ON ALL THE OTHER PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USES.
THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS AT ALL IN THIS CODE ON A DATA CENTER.
UM, UM, IN ID ONE AND ID TWO, HOW DOES THE DATA CENTER MEET THE STRATEGY OF ENVISION DUBLIN TO CREATE A DISTRICT THAT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, COMPANIES TO COLLABORATE, SUPPORT, ENTERTAIN EMERGING ENTREPRENEURS, AND ATTRACT TARGETED INNOVATIVE INDUSTRY CLUSTERS? HOW DOES THE DATA CENTER MEET THAT INTENT? IT IS SIMPLY A BUILDING THAT HOLDS DATA.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVEN NEED TO PERMIT IT AT ALL BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING A PROBLEM WITH ONE.
UM, THERE ARE, UM, OTHER AREAS OF THE CODE ON PAGE 11.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A CORPORATE RESIDENCE IS BECAUSE IT ISN'T DESCRIBED.
UM, CONFERENCE CENTERS ON PAGE 13 ARE ONLY ALLOWED IT LOOKS LIKE IN A HOTEL, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN A MIXED USE.
AND IN BRIDGE PARK, THE EXCHANGE IS A CONFERENCE CENTER AND IT WORKS REALLY WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WASN'T PERMITTED.
WE JUST DON'T, WE JUST DON'T, UM, CAPTURE THE VIBRANCY OF A COMMUNITY.
WE ARE JUST FOCUSING ON THE FLEX THE INDUSTRIAL, THAT'S WHAT I READ IN THIS CODE RIGHT NOW.
UM, UM, LET'S SEE, WITHIN THE CODE, IT STILL DOES, I DON'T KNOW, JENNY IS THERE, IS THE RESEARCH SUPPORT BUFFER STAYING OR BEING REDLINED, IT'S GONNA STAY AT THIS POINT AND THE ONLY CHANGE WILL BE TO THAT EAZ NOMENCLATURE THAT'S IN THERE.
BUT IT STILL ONLY APPLIES TO, UM, ID FOUR.
I BELIEVE IT'S ID ONE, I, I'M PRETTY SURE IT ONLY APPLIES TO ID FOUR.
SO, BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING, UM, UM, IT'S LIKE RETAIL, LIKE RETAIL IS PERMITTED IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, BUT IT'S NOT PERMITTED IN THIS MIXED USED AREA.
SO I FIND THAT JUST CONFUSING.
UM, I ALSO, ON PAGE 14, EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, IT WAS DEFINED IN THE, IN THE CONDITIONS ON IT THAT IT ONLY IS DEFINED FOR TECHNICAL TECHNOLOGY OR ENTREPRENEURIAL USE.
BUT THEN LATER ON IN THE CODE, THEN I WOULD SAY TO YOU, SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S A MEDICAL SCHOOL? IT'S, IT, THERE'S CONTRADICTIONS IN THE CODE.
UM, LATER ON ON IT, IT DOES TALK LATER ON IN THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE VOCATIONAL AND TRADE.
WHAT ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE? THIS IS AN AREA.
WHAT, CAN YOU HAVE AN AUTOMOTIVE SCHOOL HERE? I JUST THINK THE CODE NEEDS REFINEMENT.
UM, LET'S SEE, A COUPLE OTHERS.
UM, I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ONCE WE PASS THIS CODE, UM, THIS IS STRAIGHT ZONING, PRETTY MUCH IT'S GOING TO GET PUT IN PLACE.
SO FOR ME, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CODE THAT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE CODE THAT REALLY GETS US TO WHERE WE'RE
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GOING.AND I FEEL LIKE IN MANY WAYS WE'RE JUST TAKING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
UM, I REALLY WORRY ABOUT OUR LANDSCAPE BUFFERING.
UM, IF YOU PUT EVEN A 30 FOOT TREE IN FRONT OF A 60 FOOT BUILDING, YOU'RE STILL GONNA SEE THAT BUILDING.
SO TO ME, I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT LANDSCAPE BUFFERING, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING CODE LANGUAGE AND EVEN THE ONES WE HAVE IN OUR OWN CITY CODE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE ALWAYS WITH COMMERCIAL ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT WE HAVE.
AND I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THING I WAS LOOKING, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED PERFORMANCE BUFFERING.
AND THAT REQUIRES YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BUFFER.
AND YOU ACTUALLY HAVE DIFFERENT BRAIDS OF BUFFERING WITH DEFINED NUMBER OF TREES WITHIN SO MANY FEET WITH A WIDTH.
THAT'S A PARTICULAR DEPTH THAT ACTUALLY MEETS THE NEED OF THE PARTICULAR SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
I THINK THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN GRADIENT THIS SO THAT WE ACTUALLY MEET THE NEED OF THAT PARTICULAR PARTIAL.
UM, AND PAGE 34 LOADING LOCATIONS.
IF THEY'RE SCREENED, THEY CAN BE LESS THAN 50 FOOT FROM RESIDENTIAL LOT.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.
UM, DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, UM, WE HAVE THEM FOR SUSTAINABILITY AND WE SAY WE WANT THEM FOR LIVE, WORK PLAY, BUT WE DON'T SPECIFY WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD GIVE AWAY TO GET.
AND I KNOW FROM BEING ON PLANNING AND ZONING, MANY DEVELOPERS WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING SPECIAL, LIKE PUT A PIECE OF ARTWORK OR A PLAZA OR A FOUNTAIN, AND IT TURNS OUT TO BE A LOT LESS THAN YOU EXPECT.
SO I THINK IF WE REALLY WANT THIS AREA TO BE ALIVE AND RICH AND BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC ON WHAT WE'LL GIVE AWAY.
UM, AND ON PAGE 44 PUBLIC NOTICES, I THINK IT SHOULD INCLUDE ANY NEIGHBORING ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, EVEN IF IT'S OUTSIDE 300 FOOT, BECAUSE 300 FOOT IN THIS AREA IS NOTHING.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT ON PAGE 45, IT TALKS ABOUT REPORTS TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND, EXCUSE ME, MY MOUTH IS A DRY REPORTS TO SEA COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING.
I THINK IN A NEW DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, A NEW DISTRICT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT DEVELOPMENT COMES IN MONTHLY.
IT COULD JUST BE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT OR PUT IT IN OUR BOARD PACK, BUT WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THE SUCCESS OF OUR PURPOSE AND INTENT IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND WE ONLY FIND OUT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT LIKE SIX OR EIGHT OR MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE CODE GO HAND IN HAND WITH VISION.
AND I THINK THE VISION ISN'T THERE YET BECAUSE WE HAVE STUDIES THAT ARE JUST MONTHS AWAY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CODE THAT REALLY CAPTURES, UM, REQUIREMENTS AND OBJECTIVES THAT WILL MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY COUNCIL? YEAH.
UM, I FIRST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, CHANGE IN THE BUFFERS.
I WORKED ON PLAYING ZONING FOR EIGHT YEARS, ALLOWED ONE APARTMENT COMPLEX INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT LITERALLY FROM BRAND ROAD.
UH, SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR INSERTING THAT IN HERE.
UM, AS TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT LIVE, WORK AND PLAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY BEEN DECIDED YET.
AFTER WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, WE HIRED AS TO THE LOCATIONS AND THE PODS WHERE ALL THAT WOULD HAPPEN, HE SAID THAT'S STILL COMPLETELY UP IN THE AIR.
SO, UH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE.
I THINK THAT, UH, WE HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE, UH, PLAYING AND ZONING SYSTEM HERE.
SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S RUTHLESS IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER.
UH, BUT I THINK WHEN A PARCEL COMES IN FOR REVIEW HERE, IT'S RUN THROUGH A REALLY VICIOUS SEA OF, OF PERFECTION.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A EXCEPTIONAL COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE VERY UNUSUAL LAWS THAT REGULATE THIS STUFF AND WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ENFORCING IT.
AND THAT'S A COMPLIMENT TO THE STAFF AND THE PAST CITY COUNCIL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS PASSING THE, UM, THE, UH, ACTUAL CODE, THIS PART OF THE CODE, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY FOR THAT.
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UH, A LOT OF THIS REALLY HASN'T BEEN WORKED OUT.I JUST MET WITH THE, UH, THE PLANNER LAST WEEK FOR AN HOUR WHO'S WORKING WITH US ON ALL THIS.
AND HE SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE PODS ARE GONNA HAPPEN, WHICH, UH, MY COLLEAGUE'S TALKING ABOUT.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CITY THAT REALLY HAS, UM, IT IS INTEGRATED.
THE QUALITY OF THE LIFE IS INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SOME OF THESE PLACES COULD POSSIBLY END UP BEING MORE OF A WALKABLE COMMUNITY 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE WALKING TO WORK AND THOSE, THOSE DETAILS OF THIS HAVEN'T BEEN REALLY BEEN WORKED OUT YET.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR CONCERN.
BUT HAVING SAT HERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 30 YEARS, 25 YEARS, UM, I WOULD SAY THIS CITY TAKES CARE OF BUSINESS IN A SUPERLATIVE WAY.
SO THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I APPLAUD EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO COME IN AND, AND, AND TALK IN FRONT OF US AND, AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR FEELINGS.
I THINK IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST THING TO DO AND, AND WE DO HEAR YOU.
UM, I, I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH WHERE JANE IS COMING FROM.
HOWEVER, UM, I THINK THERE'S SORT OF TWO PIECES TO THIS.
AND, AND WE'VE WORKED ON THIS IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAVE A BLOCK OF CODE'S, CODE, UM, AND WE HAVE CHARACTERISTIC GUIDELINES AS A COMPANION TO THE CODE, WHICH I REALLY THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CODE.
UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS WORKED VERY HARD WITH BOTH OF OUR CONSULTANTS AND WITH US AND THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND, AND IT'S BEEN AN EXTENSIVE PUBLIC PROCESS, UM, TO TRY TO BRING TO US THE BEST CODE THAT WE CAN GET.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING.
AND, AND MOST OF THESE ARE NOT LARGE CHANGES.
UM, I, I ALWAYS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THINGS LIKE NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION.
I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT THINGS TO THINK THROUGH.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL COME IN FRONT OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, AND THEY'RE NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT WE JUST SAY, OH, UM, HEY SALLY, I PICK YOU TO BE ON THE COMMISSION.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO APPLY, UM, AND HAVE SKILL SETS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE'RE CHALLENGING DEVELOPERS.
AND DEVELOPERS WILL TELL YOU IT IS CHALLENGING TO BUILD IN DUBLIN, UM, AS IT SHOULD BE.
UM, BECAUSE WE REQUIRE THE HIGHEST OF QUALITY AND WE DESIRE, UNLIKE SOME COMMUNITIES, THE INPUT OF OUR RESIDENTS.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE, EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO HEAR.
UM, SO I, I I REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT INTERACTION.
I ENCOURAGE THE INTERACTION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL.
UM, I, I MEAN, I'VE NEVER HAD A PIECE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COME TO US THAT I HAVE NOT KNOWN ABOUT FOR MONTHS.
I DON'T, I GUESS, I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU, YOU, YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE.
YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE PUBLISHED, IT'S ALL PUBLIC PROCESS AND EVERYONE IS INVITED TO, WHETHER IT'S A PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING OR AN A RB MEETING OR A COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS ONE OF THE MOST OPEN AND TRANSPARENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT, THAT I KNOW OF.
UM, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I EVEN RAN TO BE UP HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THIS DEEP CARE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S NOT JUST US THAT HAVE, IT'S, IT'S ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE HAVE AS WELL.
AND I DO THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S ALSO OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE BALANCING, AND I THINK JOHN SAID IT WELL, THAT QUALITY OF LIFE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH WORK AND LIFE AND, AND BRINGING THOSE THINGS ALL INTO INTEGRAL PROCESSES, THIS CITY THRIVES NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL RESIDENCES THAT WOULD'VE MADE US A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
THIS CITY THRIVES BECAUSE WE HAVE CREATED A BALANCE PAST COUNCILS WITH RESIDENT SUPPORT, UM, BETWEEN ROOFTOPS AND BUSINESSES.
UM, AND THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE A BALANCE.
AND IT'S A STRUGGLE AND IT'S A HARD BALANCE TO ATTAIN SOMETIMES.
AND IT'S NEVER GONNA MAKE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF EVERYBODY HAPPY.
UM, WE CERTAINLY TRY OUR BEST.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, I I THINK WE ALL FEEL VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND, AND I I THINK THAT EACH OF US UP HERE HAS EXPRESSED THAT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY INVALUABLE.
UM, I, I THINK THAT STAFF HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB AT REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.
I THINK IF WE ARE LOOKING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, A COMPANION GUIDE, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, TO SUPPLEMENT THE CODE.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS WHAT BELONGS IN THE CODE, BECAUSE YOU CAN GET YOURSELF TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'VE TIED YOUR HANDS PRETTY TIGHT AND NOTHING CAN HAPPEN.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF THIS EITHER.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S SET UP FRONT.
SO, UM, IS THERE MORE WORK TO DO? YEAH, QUITE POSSIBLY.
UM, AND NO, AND IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO BE DONE WITH IT.
WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TALK THROUGH THINGS.
AND IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES COME FORWARD THAT FEELS, OH, MAYBE WE DIDN'T QUITE GET THAT RIGHT.
WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND, AND WE DO RELY ON OUR, ON OUR PLANNING AND ZONING
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COMMISSIONERS, UM, TO REALLY THINK CRITICALLY AND, AND FRANKLY TO PUT THE SCREWS TO DEVELOPERS TO MAKE THEM DEVELOP THE VERY BEST THINGS THAT THEY CAN DEVELOP.UM, SO I, I JUST, I WANTED TO SAY THAT FROM A, A BROAD UMBRELLA PERSPECTIVE, HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S HARD DISCUSSION HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE STAFF'S DEDICATION TO THE PROCESS AND TO OUR RESIDENTS AND HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE OUR RESIDENTS FOR COMING FORWARD AND TALKING WITH US, ASKING QUESTIONS AND BEING CURIOUS.
THAT'S HOW YOU LEARN, THAT'S HOW WE LEARN.
UM, I, I HAVE TWO CHANGES THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE RELATIVE TO THIS FOR THE, FOR THE ID THREE ZONING PORTION FOR, UM, DATA CENTERS TO BE A PERMITTED USE.
I THINK MAYBE MOVING THAT TO A CONDITIONAL USE, YOU KNOW, DA DATA CENTERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BREED AND THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT IMPACT NOT JUST ON NOISE AND NEIGHBORS, BUT ON UTILITY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR ABILITY TO, TO EXECUTE ON OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
SO I THINK MAKING THE ID THREE CONDITIONAL, UM, FROM THE, FROM THE PERMITTED THAT IT IS AT PRESENT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, IT ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF SCRUTINY TO THAT PROCESS.
SO THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO EARN THE CONDITION, UM, TO BE WAIVED, TO BE ABLE TO PUT A DATA CENTER IN THAT LOCATION.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD PROVIDE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGEMENT IN THAT SPACE.
THE SECOND ONE IS, I, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A HEIGHT LIMIT ON IT, BE A, UM, BASELINE APPROVAL AND TO AN EXCEED A HEIGHT WOULD BE, A CONDITION WOULD BE CONDITIONAL.
UM, SO THAT WE, WE WOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS, THE HEIGHT OF THE MOUNTED UTILITIES, WOULD THEY BE GROUND MOUNTED? WOULD THEY BE ROOF MOUNTED? YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THOSE UTIL, WHERE ARE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHILLERS AND AIR CIRCULATORS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE REAL GENERATORS OF THAT.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE A CHANGE RELATIVE TO BUILDING HEIGHT.
AND IF IT EXCEEDS A, A GIVEN HEIGHT OR IF THE UTILITY MOUNT EXCEEDS A GIVEN HEIGHT, THEN THAT IS A, THAT WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL, AND THAT WOULD GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO COME IN AND CHIME IN AND WEIGH IN ON THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND I'M, AND ZACH TEXTED ME WHILE I WAS UP HERE THAT I MISSPOKE ABOUT THAT.
SO THERE ALREADY IS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND A CONDITIONAL USE.
IS THE REMEDY TO GO HIGHER THAN 68 FEET IS WHAT THE CURRENT CODE SAYS.
SO IF IT'S HIGHER THAN THAT, THEN THAT HAS TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
68 OR HIGHER IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD ANYTHING.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE PARAPETS AND EVERYTHING? YES.
THAT'S TOTAL BUILDING WOULD BUILDING.
SO YOUR BUILDING PROBABLY WOULD BE MAXED OUT AT 60 FEET WITH ISH.
UM, THE, IF, IF THEY WERE GOING TO MOUNT ANYTHING ON THE ROOF WITH THE SCREENINGS, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER OR NOT.
UH, I THINK MAYBE THAT COULD, COULD BE VISITED.
I KNOW THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY DOING ZONING CODE UPDATES, UM, AND MAYBE WE COULD SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME EXPLORE WHAT, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE RELATIVE TO OUR SETBACKS AND OUR MOUND HEIGHTS OF WHAT THOSE VIEW SHEDS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO THOSE WERE THE TWO BIGGEST THINGS FOR ME RELATIVE TO THE ZONING CODE ITSELF.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SPEND A MOMENT, OR JENNY, IF YOU WOULD, TO TALK ABOUT THE ENVISION DUBLIN PROCESS AND, UM, THE MEETINGS THAT, THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THERE OUR HOA LEADERSHIP MEETING TWICE A YEAR.
AND THAT THE PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN THREE PRESENTATIONS AT HOA LEADERSHIP OVER THE COURSE OF THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS PRESENTING THE FINDINGS OF THE ENVISION DUBLIN, UM, PROJECT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK THROUGH THAT TIMELINE A LITTLE BIT.
SURE, I CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
SO, UM, THE ENVISION DUBLIN PROCESS, WHICH IS OUTLINING THE DEVELOPMENT GOALS FOR THE CITY FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS, AND INCLUDES THOSE SPECIAL AREA PLANS THAT WERE REFERENCED, UM, INCLUDING UPDATES TO THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
SO THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS, UM, COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WAS THAT 18 MONTH PROCESS.
SO WE HAD A STEERING COMMITTEE, UM, THAT WAS COMPRISED OF, YOU KNOW, VARIETY OF RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, CORPORATE CITIZENS, UM, THAT HELPED US THROUGHOUT THAT, THAT PROCESS, AND REALLY HELPED TO GUIDE THAT.
WE HAD, UM, AS PART OF THE PLAN PROCESS OVER 5,000 SORT OF TOUCH POINTS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, THAT INCLUDED EITHER PRESENTATIONS OR, UM, STATIONS AT THE HOA MEETINGS AT THE STATE OF THE CITY, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PRESENTATIONS.
UM, ALSO, AGAIN, A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC REVIEW, FORMAL REVIEW PROCESS AS WE WERE BEFORE COUNCIL WITH, UM, VARIOUS STEPS OF THAT PLAN
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OVER THAT 18 MONTHS, PROBABLY A DOZEN TIMES, UM, INCLUDING WORK SESSIONS AND THINGS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION.WE ALSO HAD TARGETED SPECIAL AREA PLAN MEETINGS SO PEOPLE COULD COME AND LOOK AND MAKE COMMENTS, UM, AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK REGARDING THOSE SPECIAL AREA PLAN CHANGES, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO, AGAIN, NOT JUST WEST INNOVATION, BUT THE, THAT AND THE FIVE OTHER PLANS THAT WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT.
SO IT WAS A VERY INTENDED TO BE A VERY PUBLIC, UM, AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER LUDO ALLUDED TO, WE DO TRY TO BE A VERY TRANSPARENT ORGANIZATION AND WANT AND WANT AND SOLICIT FEEDBACK ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
'CAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STRIKING THAT RIGHT BALANCE OF, RIGHT.
THERE'S THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE SUPPORTED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CAN BE SUSTAINED OVER TIME.
AND THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION FOR THAT CHANGE TO THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT THAT WE REALLY SHOULD LOOK AT.
WHERE CAN WE PROVIDE THAT BALANCE OF OTHER USES TO RESIDENTIAL AND REALLY MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AGAINST THE RAIL, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SPACES THAT WE REALLY MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO CHANGE THAT RESIDENTIAL USE TO A FLEX INNOVATION AND INDUSTRIAL USE BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD LOTS OF COMMENTS FROM OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT THEIR, YOU KNOW, LACK OF DESIRE TO LIVE NEAR A RAIL RAILROAD.
SO THIS WAS A VERY CONSCIOUS CHOICE, UM, TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I JUST A COUPLE RESPONSES.
SO JENNY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I GUESS, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DATA CENTERS DELETED, PERIOD, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THEY MEET THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT, BUT AT LEAST, UM, THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS ON EVEN A CONDITIONAL USE OF A, OF A DATA CENTER SAYING THAT MODERN NOISE ABATEMENT MUST BE REQUIRED IF OUR NOISE, UH, UM, REGULATIONS WORK, AS WE ALL SAY THEY DO, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH NOISE BECAUSE THERE'S NOISE AT THE DATA CENTER AND PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
BUT WE HAVEN'T GONE OUT THERE AND SAID, YOU'RE TOO NOISY OR THAT YOU HAVEN'T MET OUR REGULATIONS, AND YET WE HEAR THAT WE HAVE NOISE.
SO IF WE DON'T, IN THIS KNOWING THAT THIS IS THE ONLY AND BEST PLACE THAT A DATA CENTER WOULD GO, WE SHOULD AT LEAST CONDITION IT SO THAT WE PROTECT THE NEXT DATA CENTER FROM BEING A NOISE PROBLEM.
AND THEN ON THE, ON THE PIECE ABOUT THE LOADING LOCATION THAT SAYS IF YOU SCREEN IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, IT COULD BE LESS THAN 50 FEET.
UM, I THINK THAT'S, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT PAGE THAT'S ON? SORRY.
IT SAYS IF SCREEN, IT CAN BE LESS THAN 50 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL, UM, UNLESS, UH, IT CAN BE LESS THAN 50 FEET.
SO THESE ARE, THESE MIGHT BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND WE HAVE COMPLAINTS EVEN AT, UM, NAPA ABOUT TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, LOADING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO I DO THINK WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN UP THAT PROTECTION AND GIVE A MINIMUM OF 50 FOOT AND NOT ALLOW ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT.
UM, PUBLIC NOTICES TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS I THOUGHT WERE COMMON.
AND I DO THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
AND I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE MIXED USE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE NOT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT CODE SAYS THAT THERE ARE FOUR DISTRICTS.
WILL THERE BE MORE DISTRICTS WITH MIXED USE COMING DOWN THE ROAD? AND IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN WHERE IS ALL THE LIVE WORK PLAY GONNA BE? THIS IS THE CODE.
SO THERE'S, YEAH, LET ME TRY TO REMEMBER ALL OF THEM.
SO I GUESS LET'S, LET'S START WITH, LET'S START, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL AT ALL.
UM, SO LET'S START WITH THE SCOPE OF THE CHANGES, RIGHT? SO THE CODE RIGHT NOW, AS WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT, IS IN PLACE.
SO OUR GOAL WAS TO TRY TO ALIGN THAT PARTICULARLY RELATED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY MM-HMM
AND THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
SO THE SCOPE AT THIS POINT IS, IS KIND OF LIMITED TO THOSE FLEX INDUSTRIAL AND OR FLEX INNOVATION INDUSTRIAL USES.
UM, AS WE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE MEMO AND THE PRESENTATION, THERE MAY BE OTHER CHANGES AND PROBABLY DO NEED TO BE ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, RIGHT, TO TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER REINER'S POINT ABOUT THE MIXED USES AND THE NODES, AND DO SOME OF THOSE TWEAKS NEED TO BE MADE, OUR INTENT, THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL CHANGES, UH, TO BE MADE ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT.
THE INTENT OF THIS IS REALLY TO TRY TO KEEP THAT SCOPE PRETTY NARROW TO ALIGN, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO THESE ASSEMBLY, MANUFACTURING, AND DATA CENTER USES.
'CAUSE WE ARE HEARING FROM POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS, AND THOSE ARE BARRIERS THAT ARE IN THE WAY, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE THAT ASSEMBLY.
UM, THOSE, SOME OF THOSE ASSEMBLY FLEX INNOVATION USES.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO MAKE THE CODE ALIGN WITH THAT.
UM, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST PART.
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TO RESIDENTS AND THEY CAN MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN THESE GO TO A RT OR OBVIOUSLY THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE.SO THERE IS NOTICING TOO LATE, TOO LATE, IT'S ALL TOO LATE.
WE GOT A NOTICE RIGHT BEFORE THE 20TH MAYBE OF FEBRUARY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE QUORUM AND RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER TONIGHT.
UM, AND WE WILL SIT HERE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE COMMENTS.
AND SO WE WILL ALLOW EVERYONE TO HAVE THEIR DAY AND TO MAKE COMMENTS, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE.
SO ALL APPLICATIONS WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTED, ARE INCLUDED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, UM, FROM THE MINUTE THAT THEY'RE SUBMITTED AND, AND DEEMED COMPLETE BY OUR, UM, OUR PLANNING STAFF.
WHEN AN ITEM IS SCHEDULED FOR AN AGENDA, WHICH IS TYPICALLY TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING, THAT AGENDA IS PUBLISHED AND NOTICES WITH, DEPENDING ON THE APPLICATION TYPE AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, A NOTICE IS SENT TO PROPERTIES WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE, 150 FEET, 300, DEPENDING ON, DEPENDING ON YOUR APPLICATION TYPE.
SO AGAIN, THAT OUR, AND WE TYPICALLY, IF THE WEATHER PERMITS PLACE SIGNS OUTSIDE ON THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN ALSO BE AWARE IF THEY DIDN'T GET A NOTICE OR THEY'RE DRIVING BY OR INTERESTED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING, THAT'S ALSO AVAILABLE, UM, TO HELP PROVIDE THAT, THAT NOTICE OF APPLICATION.
SO, AND AGAIN, IT'S A, THERE ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHETHER IT'S AT A RT OR PLANNING COMMISSION, EVEN BEFORE IT IS ON AN AGENDA, OBVIOUSLY STAFF'S WILLING TO AND WILLING AND ABLE TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TOO.
SO, SO MY LAST QUESTION, UM, I OBVIOUSLY FEEL AS IF, UM, I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE EXISTING CODE, AND I DO THINK IT WILL GIVE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS, BUT I, BUT I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN'S INTENTION IS TO INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, INCREASE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, AND TO BE AN INNOVATIVE AND INTERESTING PLACE TO BE.
AND WHEN YOU BEGIN WITH THE CODE AND YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT CAUSE CONSTERNATION AND CONCERN ABOUT NEIGHBORING PROPERTY VALUES, I THINK YOU HAVE TO BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO BE SURE THAT THE USES AND THE PERMITTED USES THAT YOU ALLOW IN THIS CODE ARE NOT GONNA BE DETRIMENTAL.
AND IF YOU ARE GONNA PUT SOMETHING IN LIKE A DATA CENTER, THEN YOU AT LEAST HAVE TO CONDITION IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T CREATE THE PROBLEMS THAT THE PRESENT ONE IS OBVIOUSLY CREATING.
AND I, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE ALL SAYING, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY THROUGH OUR REGULATIONS NOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING THE JOB.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA WRITE THE CODE, THEN AT LEAST ADD THESE THINGS TO GIVE THE PROTECTIONS AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND AS WE GO FURTHER, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE WORK SESSION, UM, UH, NEXT, UM, JAMIE GREEN'S, IT'S CALLED NEXT, UH, PLANNING, PLANNING NEXT.
HE SAID, AND, AND I WENT BACK AND READ IT IN FEBRUARY, THAT WE WERE GONNA GET THIS A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE HOUSING WAS AND WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION WAS AND WHERE THE USES AND THE PERMITTED USES WOULD BE.
AND I FEEL AS IF, UM, WE COULD GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME UNTIL WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE ENTIRE VISION LOOKS LIKE, SO THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY GET THE CODE CORRECT AND THE REZONING CORRECT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CATCHING ALL OF THE ELEMENTS AND, AND JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING, THIS IS STRAIGHT ZONING.
SO ONCE THIS DEVELOPMENT COMES AND WE SAY YES TO IT, A RT ART IS GOING TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM IS GOING TO SAY YES, AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS TO DO IT, AND PEOPLE WON'T SEE IT.
THEY WON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THE CODE HAS TO BE RIGHT.
SO I JUST WANNA, AGAIN, REITERATE, THERE ARE PARCELS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ZONED ID TWO, ID 3 84, THE MINOR CHANGES WE'RE MAKING TONIGHT, THAT WILL HELP, PARTICULARLY THE ONES WE ASKED, OR AT LEAST I ASKED FOR LAST TIME ABOUT NOT CALLING IT THE FRONT PROPERTY SETBACK.
AND SO NOW IT'S, IF WE MAKE, IF WE PASS THESE CODE CHANGES, THOSE GET IMPLEMENTED FOR THE EXISTING PARCELS THAT DO BACK UP TO RESIDENTS, RIGHT? IF WE DON'T PASS THIS, WE CAN HAVE A DATA CENTER COME IN IN TWO MONTHS OR SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND THOSE, THOSE NEW RULES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PASS DON'T APPLY.
SO I'M SUGGESTING WE DON'T HOLD UP PASSING THIS.
THE CHANGES YOU'RE REQUESTING REGARDING NOTICE APPLIES
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ACROSS ALL OF OUR ZONING CODES.LIKE WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT A GAZILLION ZONING CODES AND WE CAN, BUT THEN THAT STILL GOES TO PLANNING AND ZONING BEFORE IT COMES TO US.
THAT'S A LONG TIME AWAY BEFORE THAT CHANGE GETS TO US.
SO I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU LOOK AT THE MINOR CHANGES WE'RE ASKING IT, IS IT AN IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? WE CAN MAKE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE, AND FOLLOW OUR PROCESS AND IN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, WE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS RELATED TO WHICH ARE PERMITTED USES AND NOT PERMITTED.
BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE ALREADY THERE, THEY'RE ALREADY PERMITTED, THEY'RE ALREADY ALLOWED, IT'S NOT AS EASY ENOUGH.
WE CAN'T JUST SAY TONIGHT, DON'T ALLOW IT.
IT GOES BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING IN PUBLIC NOTICE AND MULTIPLE MEETINGS, AND IT COULD BE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S IMPORTANT IN MY PERSPECTIVE TO PASS THESE ZONING CODE CHANGES TONIGHT TO AT LEAST PUT IN SOME PROTECTIONS FOR THE PARCELS THAT ALREADY EXIST.
I, I THINK THE IMPORTANT NOTICE ONE, ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE AS WELL IS THE, THE NOISE ISSUES THAT YOU TALK ABOUT, THOSE WOULD BE AMENDMENTS TO OUR NOISE ORDINANCE AND WE COULD BRING THOSE BACK WITH, WITH RELATIVE SPEED, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN SIMPLY UPDATE THAT PORTION OF THE CODE.
UM, SO THAT COULD BE DONE IF, IF WE WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL, UM, FOR THE ID 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR, IF WE WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, WE COULD DO THAT IN, IN THAT PORTION TOO, IN THE NOTICE PORTION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO SAY A THOUSAND FEET OR WHAT, WHATEVER NUMBER WE FELT LIKE WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, WE, THERE'S OTHER PLACES IN THAT CODE THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE WERE TOGETHER LAST, UM, WE ASKED OR I ASKED FOR, UH, AN INSPECTION ON THE NOISE OR WERE THEY MEETING THE CODE? I HAVEN'T SEEN THE RESULTS OF THAT BACK YET.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON THEM AND THAT WE WILL SEE THAT IN SHORT ORDER TO FIND OUT IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE, THEN WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE IF WE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN THE PARAMETERS OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S STILL BOTHERSOME, AND THEN THE REVISION OF THAT NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD BECOME EVEN MORE VALUABLE.
AND THEN WE COULD RESPOND WITH WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF NOISE SHED FROM, FROM A SPECIFIC BUILDING.
SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT.
THIS, THIS JUST ISN'T THE PLACE WHERE THOSE THINGS LIE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR NOISE, THAT WILL, THAT WILL LIE IN OUR NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND SO WE WILL NEED TO GO AHEAD AND IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE 'EM FIX IT.
IF THEY ARE NOT IN VIOLATION AND IT'S STILL PROBLEMATIC, THEN WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, UM, TO, TO BE ABLE TO FIND THEM IN VIOLATION AND FORCE THEM TO ANDY'S POINT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR SYSTEMS TO MINI MITIGATE THE NOISE THAT THEY'RE GENERATING THAT ISN'T PART OF THIS ZONING CODE UPDATE.
WELL, I THINK THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I'D SAY, CHRIS, IS, IS IN MANY OF THESE PLACES, UH, YOU LOOK AT THE PERMITTED USES AND THEN THERE'S CONDITIONS AND THEN THEY TALK ABOUT IT.
SO THERE, THERE IS NOTHING IN THE DATA CENTER UNDER, UNDER ANY KIND OF CONDITIONS.
AND THEN THIS PLACES A LOT OF CONDITIONS ON A LOT OF THOSE PERMITTED USES.
UM, I GUESS I'D HAVE TO REFER TO THAT PAGE THAT HAD THE GRAPH, BUT I GUESS THIS IS WHAT I WANNA SAY, UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE CODE EXISTS THE WAY IT DOES NOW AND THERE'S NOT AS MANY PROTECTIONS AS YOU WOULD WANT THE, THE PEOPLE WOULD WANT THAT.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.
I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS, I THINK THE CODE HAS A LONG WAY TO GO STILL.
I THINK THE CODE HAS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO GIVING MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN THE WAY OF PROTECTIONS.
SO, UM, I WOULDN'T MIND WAITING A MONTH TO GIVE IT ANOTHER GOOD REVIEW TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT AND TO HAVE ANOTHER, A FEW SUGGESTIONS, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE ROAD THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO STOP.
SO I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROS AND CONS OF PASSING IT AT THIS POINT IN TIME ARE.
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, JANE, IS I THINK THAT THE CONS OF NOT PASSING, AT LEAST THE, THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS CODE OUTWEIGH THE PROS OF TABLING THIS.
AND IT WOULD BE FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS, NOT FOR 30 DAYS.
UM, BECAUSE IT LEAVES US OPEN TO THE WAY THE CODE CURRENTLY READS.
THIS MAY BE AN INCREMENTAL STEP TO IMPROVEMENT.
I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY FINE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT IF YOU DON'T EVEN TAKE THE INCREMENTAL
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STEP, YOU LEAVE IT OPEN TO THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING IN THE CODE, THAT THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHERE I'M, MY POSITION THAT I'M COMING FROM IS I WOULD RATHER AT LEAST DO THESE INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS TO PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF PROTECTIONS.I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF, UM, CHANGING THE DATA CENTER TO A CONDITIONAL USE AND NOT A PERMITTED USE AT ALL.
UM, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUILDING HEIGHT, YEAH, THE BUILDING HEIGHT AS A BASELINE.
I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD CHANGES TO THIS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THIS ITERATION OF THIS CODE.
I THINK IF WE DON'T PASS IT, WE LEAVE OURSELVES OPEN FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME, SOME UNKNOWN PERIOD OF TIME TO THE WAY THE CODE CURRENTLY READS, WHICH DOES NOT ADDRESS ANY OF THEIR CONCERNS.
SO I, I GUESS MY STRUGGLE WITH WHY SHOULD WITH WAITING IS THEN WE'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA ADDRESS ANY OF YOUR CONCERNS UNTIL WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE THING ALL READY TO GO.
THAT COULD TAKE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
TO ME, THAT LEAVES US VULNERABLE TO THINGS WE DON'T WANT.
I'D RATHER DO AN INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT AND THEN DO ANOTHER INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT.
'CAUSE LET'S BE REALLY HONEST, THIS IS A FOREVER ITER ITERATIVE PROCESS.
IT DOESN'T EVER NECESSARILY STOP IMPROVING.
UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM IN THAT REGARD.
YEAH, I JUST THINK THAT, UH, KNOWING THE CITY OF DUBLIN AS I HAVE, KNOWING THAT ALL THESE YEARS THIS THING'S GONNA BE CONTINUALLY TWEAKED AND TWEAKED AND TWEAKED AND REFINED AND REFINED, AND THAT'S HOW WE REALLY WORK HERE.
SO, AND THAT'S WHAT PLAYING ZONING'S GONNA END UP DOING TOO.
BUT I REALLY WELCOME, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE BALLIN TRAIN AND I HOPE MOST OF YOU'RE FROM BALL ANDRE, AND, UH, WE PUT A GOLF COURSE DOWN THERE AND, AND A A REALLY NICE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GONNA JEOPARDIZE THAT COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, AS TIME MOVES ON, WE'RE GONNA SEE MORE AND MORE PROBLEMS. I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT THE NOISE PROBLEM AND I, I WANNA SEE THAT THING RESOLVED.
YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY THAT BUZZING GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE.
SO, UH, AND THEN I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS THING ALREADY LAUNCH AND THIS THING'S BEEN OUT HERE FOREVER, BY THE WAY.
I DON'T, YOU SHOULDN'T ACT SURPRISED, LIKE, OH, I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
THIS THING'S BEEN GOING ON FOREVER.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU CHANGING, CHANGING THE, MAKING THE ADDITIONS TO MAKE THIS THING TOUGHER AND, UH, AND THE SETBACKS.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS A IMPROVED IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT, ON WHAT ON THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.
SO THIS THING IS THIS, THIS CAKE AIN'T BAKED, SO IT'S GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO.
DO YOU NEED, UM, BY MOTION THE CHANGES TO THE, UM, D THREE BEING ID THREE BEING CONDITIONAL FROM ITS PERMITTED STATE AND FOR THE, UH, HEIGHT CALCULATIONS? YES.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY NEED THAT INCLUDED IN THE MOTION FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
SO THE NUMBER CURRENTLY IS 68.
I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER TO SUGGEST AT THIS POINT.
SO I MEAN, THAT ALREADY HAS THAT THRESHOLD.
IF IT EXCEEDS THAT HEIGHT, THEN IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL WANTS THAT NUMBER TO BE DIFFERENT OR YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT, LEAVE IT AS IT IS.
AND THEN WE, AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS AN INCREMENTAL PROCESS SO WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND BRING THAT BACK WITH THE FUTURE AMENDMENT.
I THINK I'M, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT CODE SAYS, SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ON THAT JENNY, UH, IF, IF THE HEIGHT ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING IS GONNA GO UP, THEN THE ELEVATION OF THE MOUNDS GO UP SURROUNDING IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.
YEAH, I DON'T REALLY WANNA SEE A BUNCH OF BUILDINGS STICKING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT TREES HAVE A LIFE SPAN AND WHETHER THEY GET REPLACED OR NOT, SOMETIMES IN, DOESN'T REALLY HAPPEN.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING EARTH BURNS AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THE GROUND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, 150 FEET, 200 FEET, YOU CAN BUILD SOME REALLY NICE MOUNDS AND REALLY HAVE A PERMANENT FIXED SCREEN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE IN, UH, FOR ORDINANCE 0 7 25, THERE BE AN AMENDMENT FOR THE ID THREE, UH, USE OF DATA CENTERS BE MOVED FROM PERMITTED TO CONDITIONAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. KEELER? YES.
THEN THE VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MS. FOX? NO.
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KEELER? YES.[Ordinance 06-25]
ZERO SIX DASH 25 REZO REZONING OF NINE PARCELS FROM OUR RURAL DISTRICT.ID TWO RESEARCH RE FLEX DISTRICT, AND ID THREE RESEARCH ASSEMBLY DISTRICT.
AND OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING WILL BE FROM ZACH HOWELL.
SO I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO ZACH, BUT SIMILAR TO, I JUST WANNA GIVE COUNSEL HEADS UP SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS, WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL OR SOME SLIDES WITH SOME ADDITIONAL TWEAKS BASED ON THE COMMENTS AND INQUIRIES THAT ZACH'S GONNA GO THROUGH.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, JEREMIAH AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ABOUT ENVISION DUBLIN FURTHER OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
SO, WELL, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.
UH, BEFORE YOU, TONIGHT IS THE SECOND HEARING FOR THE REZONING OF NINE PROPERTIES, WHICH YOU'RE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON YOUR SCREEN.
UH, THIS DOES EQUATE TO APPROXIMATELY 370 ACRES BETWEEN THESE NINE PROPERTIES.
UH, THE STAR AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN DOES INDICATE CITY OWNED PROPERTY CURRENTLY TODAY.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH, UH, SOUTHWEST OF SHIRE RINGS ROAD AND COS GRAY ROAD.
SO SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UH, THAT HAS BEEN REFERENCED WITH THE PREVIOUS CASE.
UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WAS UPDATED WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE LAST YEAR.
UH, AND THE SITES, THE, THE PROPERTY SPLIT BETWEEN FLEX INNOVATION, WHICH ARE THAT LIGHTER PURPLE AND THEN INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ARE THE DARKER PURPLE.
AND THAT THE DELINEATING LINE THERE IS THE, THE RAILROAD.
UM, SO FLEX INNOVATION, THE INTENT STATEMENT THAT'S LISTED IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS, UH, SHOWN ON THE SCREEN AND THAT READS THAT IT'S A VIBRANT, IT'S INTENDED TO BE A VIBRANT MODERN DEVELOPMENT, INCORPORATING A VARIETY OF USES INCLUDING INNOVATION, OFFICE ART AND COLLABORATION THAT ARE INTEGRATED INTO THE EXISTING NATURAL AND BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
AND THEN THE INTENDED USES, UH, WITHIN THIS USE CATEGORY ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
AND THOSE ARE OFFICE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, FLEX OFFICE SLASH WAREHOUSE AND CLEAN MANUFACTURING.
AND THEN FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SECTION, WHICH AGAIN, IS THAT DARKER PURPLE, AS THERE ARE A FEW PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN THAT TONIGHT.
IN THE FUTURE, LAND USE PLAN STATES THAT IS INTENDED FOR MEDIUM TO HEAVY, LARGE FORMAT INDUSTRIAL USES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MAJOR ARTERIALS FOR EASE OF ACCESS TO ACCOMMODATE UNIQUE SITE AND OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS.
AGAIN, THOSE USES THAT ARE INTENDED, UH, WITHIN THESE DESIGNATED AREAS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
THOSE DO READ WAREHOUSING, LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, DISTRIBUTION, ASSEMBLY OFFICE, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, AND THEN DATA CENTERS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE INTENDED USES.
THESE ARE NOT THE, UH, PERMITTED USES AS LISTED IN THE ZONING CODE.
SO THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT'S OR WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT SPECIAL AREA PLAN, UH, IS ONE OF THE SIX AREAS LISTED IN THE SPEC IN THE, UH, COMMUNITY PLAN.
THAT WAS OF GREAT FOCUS, UH, THROUGHOUT THAT COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE.
UH, THE SCREEN SHOWS A SNIPPET OF, UH, THIS SPECIAL AREA PLAN.
THE RED HIGHLIGHTS WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED, AGAIN, THE, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THE, THE SHADING AND THE BUBBLE DIAGRAM THAT YOU SEE HERE, THEY DO, THEY DO GENERALLY MATCH WITH, UH, EACH OTHER.
SO THE, THE SECTION THAT SAYS ONE IS THE FLEX INNOVATION, AND THEN TWO IS THAT INDUSTRIAL AND THE GOALS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
AND THOSE ARE INTENDED TO REFLECT AND ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
UM, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC IN THIS PLAN, BECAUSE THE SPECIAL AREA PLAN DOES DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO, UM, SOME SCHEMATIC, UH, CONCEPTS FOR WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.
IT DOES CONTEMPLATE THAT 200 FOOT BUFFER ALONG BERRY ROAD, WHICH IS NOW, UH, CODIFIED AND WILL BE IN THE ZONING CODE.
UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED AND THAT INCLUDES THAT MOUNTING AND THEN OTHER, UH, ITEMS SUCH AS THE PRESERVATION OF THE 19 HUNDREDS FARMSTEAD, WHICH IS ON, UH, IT'S INDICATED BY THE, THE NUMBER SEVEN ON THE SCREEN.
SO, UM, THIS IS JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF THE, THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO, UM, THOSE TWO PLANTS.
SO BETWEEN THESE NINE PROPERTIES, THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED R FOR RURAL.
UH, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD, UH, SPLIT THESE PROPERTIES FROM ID TWO, WHICH IS RESEARCH FLEX TO ID IN ID THREE RESEARCH ASSEMBLY.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE INTENDED TO REFLECT THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THE SPECIAL AREA PLAN.
SO THOSE PERMITTED USES ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
UM, I WILL LEAVE THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT FOR THOSE, UH, TO READ, BUT IT, IT GENERALLY DOES CALL OUT, UH, A LOT OF THOSE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES FOR ID TWO.
UH, AND THEN ALSO INCLUDES DATA CENTERS, WHICH WILL NOW BE CONDITIONAL USES.
THOSE REQUIRE PLAYING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVAL.
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UM, SO ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY THERE.UH, WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION IS ALSO A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE ID TWO SECTION.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE PROPERTIES BETWEEN THE, THE RAILROAD AND COS RAILROAD.
UM, AND THEN FOR ID THREE DATA CENTERS WILL NOW BE, UH, CONDITIONAL USES, BUT THE REST OF THOSE USES WOULD BE PERMITTED.
UH, AGAIN, THE APPROVAL OR THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OUT HERE HAS TO GO THROUGH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM.
UH, THAT, AND THERE'S PUBLIC NOTIFICATION WITHIN 300 FEET FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS OUT HERE.
UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM HAS THE AUTHORITY TO KICK PROJECTS UP TO THE PLAYING AND ZONING COMMISSION IF THEY ARE DEEMED TO BE, UM, POTENTIALLY, UM, CAUSING ISSUES OR, OR POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE FOR THIS, UH, TO THEN BE KICKED UP TO PLAYING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WHEN REVIEWING STANDARD DISTRICT REZONINGS STAFF WILL USE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS OUR BASIS FOR REZONING APPLICATIONS.
UH, LOOKING AT WHAT WAS PROVIDED TONIGHT, UH, THE PLAYING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025.
UH, WITH THIS BEING THE SECOND HEARING STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT.
I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.
OKAY, THIS BRINGS US TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR, AND I'LL START WITH LINDSAY.
I KNOW WE RECEIVED, UH, SOME PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, VIA, UH, SUBMISSION TO CONTACT CITY COUNCIL TODAY.
SO, UH, WE'LL START WITH THOSE AND THEN WE WILL TAKE FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT FOLLOWING THAT.
WE DID RECEIVE 16 PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED THROUGH THE WEBSITE PRIOR TO THIS EVENING'S MEETING, UH, IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING.
THOSE COMMENTS HAVE ALL BEEN SHARED WITH COUNSEL IN THEIR ENTIRETY.
IN SUMMARY, THE COMMENTS REFLECT OPPOSITION TO THE, THE PROPOSED REZONING OF PART OF THE PARCELS ON COS GRAY ROAD FROM RURAL TO INDUSTRIAL RESIDENTS VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC, PARTICULARLY NEAR SCHOOLS, POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS FROM DATA CENTERS, NOISE LIGHTING, LOSS OF COMMUNITY CHARACTER, AND NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON PROPERTY VALUES.
AND WITH THAT, THE FIRST PERSON WHO REGISTERED TO SPEAK THIS EVENING WAS RICHARD NOLAN.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, THERE'LL BE A LITTLE TIMER THERE THAT WILL START WITH GREEN, YELLOW, RED.
UM, WE, WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, SO THAT WILL HELP YOU, UM, KEEP PACE.
AYE, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THIS.
UM, RICHARD NOLAN 67 24 GLASSON COURT IN THE BALANCE TRAY SUBDIVISION.
I, UH, WHEN I READ THE PROPOSAL FOR THE REZONING AND I SAW ID THREE FOR THE AREA WEST OF THE CX CSX RAILROAD, I BECAME QUITE CONCERNED WHEN I SAW WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO IN THERE.
AND WHAT DREW MY ATTENTION WAS INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION, WHICH IS WHAT MY BACKGROUND IS IN.
WHAT THAT WILL BRING, I'M AFRAID, IS SOME VERY, UH, HIGH TRAFFIC LOADS OF TRACTOR TRAILERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S USED PRIMARILY TO MOVE PRODUCT AND MATERIALS TO SUPPORT THOSE INDUSTRIES.
AND I DO NOT KNOW IF A TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN DONE OR ROUTING OF TRAFFIC HAS BEEN D DONE.
BUT I JUST RECENTLY SAW THE DIAGRAM SHOWING, UH, THE TOTAL CROSSING EXTENSION.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAW THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ONE OF THE TRAFFIC FLOWS THAT THEY'LL USE TO GET THEM TO THE MAIN ARTERY OF TWO 70 OR IF THEY'LL BE USING THE 1 61 33 CORRIDOR.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC ON ALL OF THOSE, AND I'M, I'M QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND I WOULD SLEEP BETTER IF THAT AREA WAS NOT ZONED ID.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD, ALTHOUGH YOU'RE AN OLD PRO AT THIS POINT.
SO
KURT SMITH, 66 92 ROUNDSTONE LOOP.
UM, I'M THE, UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE BALL ANDRE COMMUNITY.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, CONDO ASSOCIATION, THE LAKES AT BALL ANDRE.
AND, UM, I HAVE PREPARED SOME STATEMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT, UH, BEFORE I DO THAT.
AND THAT IS THAT, UM, IN HEARING THE, THE DISCUSSION, AND IT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR ME TO HEAR
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THE DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL ABOUT THAT ORDINANCE PLAN BECAUSE WHAT IT HIGHLIGHTED TO ME, IN A WAY WAS THAT THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT AND THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT ALL HAPPY WITH.AND WHEN I HEAR THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, IT'S MORE OF A RHETORICAL QUESTION, BUT AT THOSE 18 MONTHS WORTH OF MEETINGS THAT YOU HAD WITH THE COMMUNITY, WERE THERE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BALL ANDRE COMMUNITY AT THOSE MEETINGS? AND IF THERE WEREN'T, WHAT EFFORT WAS MADE TO REACH OUT TO BALL ANDRE TO SAY, HEY, HOW COME YOU GUYS AREN'T SITTING AT THE TABLE? 'CAUSE MAYBE THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION PROBLEM.
AND, UH, BUT I FOR ONE, WAS UNAWARE THAT, THAT THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON AS THE PRESIDENT OF ASSOCIATION, I THINK MAYBE I SHOULD KNOW, I'M PRETTY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE MY FINGER ON THE PULSE OF A LOT OF STUFF.
SO, UM, I, I WAS NOT AWARE, I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD HAVE A TURNOUT LIKE THIS.
AND IF WE HAD A SHOW OF HANDS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AWARE THAT ALL OF THIS WAS GOING ON, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU WOULD GET MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD GO, OH YEAH, I KNEW IT ALL AND I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION OF IT.
SO, UM, JUST THAT, THAT'S JUST THE COMMENT.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS REGARDING MY CONCERNS IS THAT WHEN THE INITIAL PROPOSAL FOR THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT WAS COMMUNICATED WITH, WITH REVISIONS IN 2017 IN THIS, IN THIS FORMAT, UM, MANY OF US WERE A PART OF THAT.
AND, UM, THE, THE VISION WAS CLEARLY DIRECTED TOWARDS CREATING SPACES FOR R AND D INNOVATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE INTERSECTION WITH EDUCATION AND THE OU COMPLEX AND ALL OF THAT.
A STRONG EMPHASIS WAS PLACED ON ESTABLISHING AREAS OF WORK-LIFE BALANCE.
WE ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT, AND WE'RE ON BOARD WITH THE GREEN SPACES AND THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
UM, BUT CLEARLY IT SEEMS NOW THAT THE DISCUSSION MAY BE MOVING SOMEWHAT AWAY FROM THIS VISION.
I FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE COMMUNICATED WELL ENOUGH TO EVERYBODY.
IF WE SAY, HEY, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 18 MONTHS AND WE'VE COMMUNICATED EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE UP TO SPEED ON IT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
SO I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO PUMP THE BRAKES TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN, TO REVISIT THAT COMMUNICATION AND TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK INTO CODE AND SOLVE BEFORE WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TO GO, GEE, I WISH WE'D HAVE KNOWN THAT THERE WAS THIS MUCH.
UH, I JUST, I'M, I'M, I JUST AM QUESTIONING THE PROCESS SOMEWHAT.
I WOULD URGE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND REQUEST A MORE CLEARLY DEFINED VISION FOR THIS AREA.
IF WE'RE JUST APPROVING THIS ZONING TONIGHT, MY, I GOT 20 SECONDS, 26 SECONDS LEFT.
IF WE'RE JUST APPROVING THIS ZONING TONIGHT, I WOULD QUESTION WHETHER DURING THAT 18 MONTHS OF DISCUSSION WITH STAKEHOLDERS, WHETHER THEY WERE AWARE THAT THIS ZONING WAS HAPPENING, IF WE'RE JUST APPROVING IT TONIGHT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PODS ARE GONNA GO, AND IF WE DON'T KNOW SOME OF THOSE PARTICULARS OF THIS, THAT WE MAYBE NEED TO PUMP THE BRAKES ON THE REZONING SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND GO, WHOA, MAYBE WE NEED TO REZONE THAT TO SOMETHING ELSE.
OR, GEE, I WISH WE HAD NOT DONE THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO HEIGHTEN THE AWARENESS OF THAT ONCE DEVELOPED, THAT VISION CAN BE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED TO STAKEHOLDERS WHO CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK, HELP TO REFINE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SUPPORT THE WORK THAT THE CITY IS DOING.
WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT WORK.
IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PARTNERS, WE ARE, WE, WE'VE INVESTED OUR LIVES IN LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE HERE TO BE PARTNERS WITH YOU.
I JUST FEEL LIKE, AND, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING HEARD TONIGHT, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING TOLD, HEY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 18 MONTHS.
SORRY IF YOU DIDN'T, WEREN'T THERE.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I'M AT 5 7 4 9 TRAFALGAR LANE, IT FEELS LIKE OF LATE.
I'M STARTING TO BECOME A REGULAR AT CITY HALL, ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS OR PLANNING AND ZONING TO FIGHT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEST INTERESTS THROUGH THE YEARS.
JANE MAYOR, WE'VE CHATTED A FEW TIMES.
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OF BALANCE TRAY FOR 21 YEARS AND I'VE MOVED THREE TIMES WITH I BALANCE TRAY, EVEN GOT MARRIED AT THE GOLF CLUB OF DUBLIN.MY CURRENT HOUSE WILL FACE WHATEVER IS BUILT ON THIS PARCEL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON THE LAST COMMENT, WE WEREN'T INCLUDED IN DISCUSSIONS.
WE HAVE ISSUES IN OUR HOA WHO HAS BEEN EXTREMELY UNCOMMUNICATIVE WITH NEIGHBORS, BUT THAT'S FOR THE ONE TIME A YEAR MEETING.
I'M READY TO TALK AT NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL HANDLE THAT WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WAS NOTIFIED OF THIS REZONING BY THIS ROLLED UP PIECE OF PAPER AT MY MAILBOX JUST A WEEK OR SO AGO.
I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PARCEL.
I'M NOT SURE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO NOTIFY ME, BUT I THANK THEM.
AND THEN I, ALONG WITH A FEW NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HELPED TO AMPLIFY AWARENESS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
LAST I KNEW THIS PARCEL WAS GOING TO BE A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY.
I'M NOT SURE WHY PLANS DIVERTED FROM CONSIDERING RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS PARCEL AS THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED PLAN SEEMED PRETTY PERFECT FOR THAT SPACE.
OTHER AREAS IN BALANCE AREA ARE AS CLOSE TO THE RAILROAD WITHOUT ISSUE.
NOTES FROM THAT MEETING MADE IT SEEM LIKE IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH RESIDENTIAL.
THEN I'M HEARING ABOUT AN AMAZON DATA CENTER TO GO IN THE SPACE ON MY DRIVE HERE FROM MY HOUSE ACROSS FROM THIS PARCEL, I COULD SEE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
THIS LAND IS NEXT TO THE VERY VIBRANT SPORTS FIELD AT DARI FIELD AND SPORTS OHIO, JUST NORTH.
I ATTENDED SEVERAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MEETINGS, APPARENTLY NOT THE RIGHT ONES AND SPORTS FIELDS WERE, WERE OF HIGH INTEREST.
WHY NOT EXTEND THIS AREA TO SUPPORT THOSE NEEDS? SINCE DARI FIELD IS ALREADY THERE, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, THE NOISE, MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS WHO ARE OFTEN OUTSIDE PLAYING THE NINE MONTHS OF THE YEAR WE CAN, WILL ENDURE.
I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE KIDS THAT PRACTICE AND PLAY GAMES REGULARLY AT DARI FIELDS WILL ENDURE.
I'M AFRAID OF THE EXPECTED HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT WILL OCCUR AS I'M LEARNING FROM OTHERS THAT HAVE AMAZON WAREHOUSES NEARBY.
I DON'T WANNA SEE AN AMAZON WAREHOUSE IN MY FRONT YARD.
I DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT NOISE WHEN I WALK OUTSIDE.
PLEASE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD TO REZONING THIS TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FOR THE MANY KIDS WHO PLAY IN THE SPORTS AREAS.
AND FOR THE MORE THAN 800 HOUSES OF RESIDENTS IN BALANCE TREE, MANY OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE STARTING TO FEEL LIKE BALANCE TREE IS A STEPCHILD OF DUBLIN.
WE MAY GO TO HILLIARD SCHOOLS, BUT WE ARE DUBLIN RESIDENTS.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT THIS AREA OF SOUTH DUBLIN AND RE AS IF IT WERE NORTH DUBLIN.
WOULD YOU PUT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ACROSS FROM YOUR FIELD? NO.
THEN THE SAME SHOULD BE TRUE FOR OUR RESIDENCES.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE MOST OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE GONNA HEAR FROM YOU HAS TO, WE RECORD THESE MEETINGS AND UH, WE WANT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING VIRTUALLY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAY AS WELL AS US.
SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 7 0 1 8 WINDROSE WAY IN THE GLENSON BALLANT TREE.
MY INITIAL, UH, QUESTIONS TONIGHT WERE CONCERNING THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE PUT IN THE REZONING OF THE NINE PARCELS ALONG COS GRAY ROAD.
SOMEBODY INDICATED THAT THEY COULD BE 60 FEET HIGH AND ALL.
AND I'M JUST, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT EVERYONE IN HERE DOESN'T WANT THAT SIZE OF A BUILDING GOING UP ON THAT PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF COS GRAY ROAD.
I MEAN, I'M ONLY ABOUT TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS AWAY FROM THAT COS GRAY ROAD.
I, I DON'T WANT THAT, I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY VISION.
BUT, UH, MOST OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, LINDSAY CHRISTIAN COONEY, WELCOME.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE, UH, COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE RECORD.
CHRISTIAN COONEY 58 35 BARON COURT WAY.
UM, THE, I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHAT ID TWO WOULD LOOK LIKE AND I TRUST THAT THE CITY HAS SORTED THAT OUT AND THEY, I I I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT ENTAIL.
THE ID THREE WITH THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, WHEN I SAW DIS UH, DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, I BUILT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS FOR A FOOD DISTRIBUTOR.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE, WE, WE, IT WAS A, I CAME IN AFTER A LOT OF THESE CENTERS WERE BUILT.
WE WERE RELOCATING THEM BECAUSE THE, THE NEIGHBORS WERE MISERABLE FROM THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS GENERATED BY THE EMPLOYEES COMING TO WORK AT 5:00 AM
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THE TRUCKS DISPATCHING AT 6:00 AM UM, THE ROADWAYS THAT THEY WOULD TRAVEL AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD GET FROM THE FAR SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO THE HIGHWAY, LET ALONE THE CONGESTION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON 33 1 61.SO THAT, AS FAR AS A, AS A, AS A USE IN THAT AREA JUST SEEMS INSANE.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THE CITY DOES A GOOD JOB SORTING OUT TRAFFIC STUFF.
SO IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO HEAR WHAT, IN MORE DETAIL, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS A PROPOSED SOLUTION.
I THINK THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS ON, ON THE, ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AT 68 FEET, THE WEXNER MEDICAL CENTER IS 68 FEET.
I THINK THAT WAS BUILT TO THE SIX STORY HEIGHT.
UM, I I I WOULD CHALLENGE THE, THE, UH, THE COUNCIL TO STAND ON COS GRAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET AND LOOK OVER TOWARDS THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND JUST TRY TO IMAGINE HOW YOU WOULD FEEL, OR AGAIN, HOW MURFIELD WOULD RESPOND IF YOU WERE GONNA PUT, PUT SIX STORY BUILDINGS ACROSS THE WAY.
SO I, AGAIN, I I TRUST THE CITY.
THE CITY TYPICALLY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH, WITH IT'S, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
MY WIFE AND I ARE GONNA RETIRE HERE.
UM, AND BUT BOY, THIS IS ASK, THIS IS A BIG ASK.
THIS IS A BIG ASK WITH NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THE VISION ACTUALLY IS.
AND IT'S A REALLY JARRING THING FOR ME.
'CAUSE I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, THE WORK PLAY, THE LIFE BALANCE, THE HOW THAT WAS GONNA LOOK AND FEEL.
AND I JUST FIGURED THIS WAS GOING TO, AND I FOUND OUT THAT WAS GONNA GET ROLLED INTO THIS NEW PLAN.
THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA TIDY IT UP A BIT.
AND IT'S, UM, AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE A GREAT SOLUTION.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU PUT NEAR A RAILROAD TRACK, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A A A HUGE PLANNING AND ZONING CHALLENGE I IMAGINE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA LIVE THERE, YOU DON'T WANNA PUT LOW INCOME HOUSING THERE, BUT WHAT DO YOU PUT THERE? SO SOMETHING HAS TO GO THERE, BUT IT'D BE REALLY INTERESTING TO HEAR THE CITY'S, THE STAFF'S THOUGHT PROCESS ON.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE VISION? I MEAN, WE SEE ID TWO AND ALL THE POSSIBILITIES.
WE SAY ID THREE AND ALL THE TERRIFYING THINGS THAT COULD BE THERE.
I, I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE, FRANKLY.
JUST FIND OUT IF, SHOULD I BE SCARED TO DEATH OR SHOULD I BE, OH COOL.
I LIVE IN A GREAT CITY AND THIS IS GONNA WORK ANYWAY.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT, UH, 6 9 7 6 INCH CAPE.
UM, I WANNA THANK JANE, UH, MS. FOX FOR SUPPORTING US ON OUR, OUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T WANT DUBLIN, WHO IS SO BEAUTIFUL TO LOOK LIKE HILLIARD.
I FEEL LIKE IT IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY AND FOR US TO HAVE TO HAVE, UM, WAREHOUSES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR HOUSE WOULD BE SO, SO TERRIBLE.
IT WOULD JUST BE AN INSULT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S, UM, I WANNA KNOW WHEN I SHOULD PUT MY HOUSE UP FOR SALE BECAUSE WHEN THAT STARTS TO BE BUILT, I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD SELL MY HOME BECAUSE MY VALUE'S GONNA GO DOWN.
BEAUTIFUL HOMES WERE BUILT AND THEN THEY BUILT AN AMAZON AND THEY BUILT A ELECTRICAL, UH, PLACE RIGHT BY THE GIANT EAGLE RIGHT OVER THERE IN LETFORD.
AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO US TO LOSE OUR HOME VALUE.
I THOUGHT, I LIVE TWO HOUSES FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND I LOVE OUR HOME IN BALLANT TREE WOODS.
IT IS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY, LOVELY PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW, I REALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY HOUSE, HOW MANY STRUCTURES THEY PLAN TO BUILD.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING, I WAS HERE FOR THE MEETING REGARDING THE ZONING FOR RINGS ROAD.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY FOLLOW UP ON IT AND I READ THE COMMUNICATIONS COMING TO ME.
SO IS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP ON THAT? IS THAT STILL GOING INTO PLANTS? THE, THE HOUSING, THE APARTMENT BUILDING ON RINGS ROAD? ZACH, YOU, I TELL YOU WHAT, WE'LL TAKE THAT QUESTION.
ZACH, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE NOTES OF THINGS THAT YOU WANNA ADDRESS AND WE'LL, THAT'LL BE ONE OF THEM.
THE OTHER THING IS WE SHOULD HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE.
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YOU DON'T BUILD WITHOUT PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.IF YOU DON'T PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SEWER, THE WATER, MAKING THAT FOUR OR FIVE LANES FIRST DOWN COS GRAY, THEN YOU TEAR IT UP AGAIN AND THAT ROAD IS HORRIBLE.
JUST LIKE AVERY IS HORRIBLE THAT THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE THEY SAID, OH, WE WANT IT TO BE A COUNTRY ROAD.
IT'S NOT A COUNTRY ROAD ANYMORE.
IF YOU TRAVEL THAT WAY LIKE I DO, YOU DON'T EVEN TRY TO GO THERE DURING FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING OR SEVEN IN THE MORNING.
YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT FOR NOTHING.
SO PLEASE DRIVE DOWN THERE AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND TRY TO JUST IMAGINE THE, THE CARS FOR THE LITTLE KIDS PLAYING OUT THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE RACE DRIVING DOWN COS GRAY AND, AND WE ALSO HAVE RACE DRIVING DOWN, UM, ALL OVER THE PLACE DOWN THERE.
SO I THANK YOU FOR, UM, A BEAUTIFUL CITY.
MY DAUGHTER JUST MOVED AWAY AND SAYS I MISS DUBLIN.
SO THAT'S HOW BEAUTIFUL OUR CITY IS, SO THANK YOU.
PLEASE, UH, STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M OR GOOD EVENING
MY ADDRESS IS 5 8 8 2 V LER PLACE IN DUBLIN, OHIO.
I'M PART OF, UH, THE BALL TRADE COMMUNITY AND I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE REMARKS, UM, IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE NINE PARCELS FROM RURAL TO VARIOUS, UH, RESEARCH DISTRICTS.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS TODAY.
AS I'M SURE WE'RE ALL AWARE, UM, AND IT'S BEEN REFLECTED IN EACH OF THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS.
UH, DUBLIN AND CENTRAL OHIO ARE RAPIDLY GROWING AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN ANTICIPATES SIGNIFICANT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND POPULATION GROWTH, AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM OTHERS.
THIS, UM, THE BALANCE RATE AREA IN PARTICULAR IS, HAS LONG BEEN PLANNED TO BE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD, UH, EFFECTUATE THE OPPOSITE OF THOSE NEEDS BY DECREASING THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WHILE ALTERING THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE WOULD REALLY GET THE, THE OPPOSITE INTENDED, UM, UH, UH, RESPONSE COUNCIL MEMBER FOX, I, UM, I HEARD YOU STATE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS STATED CORRECTLY, THAT DATA CENTERS IN PARTICULAR DO NOT MEET THE INTENT OF OUR COMMUNITY PLANS.
UM, IN FACT, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER REER HAD SAID, UM, ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS QUALITY OF LIFE BEING INTEGRATED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, DATA CENTERS IN PARTICULAR DON'T EFFECTUATE THAT.
THEY SIMPLY JUST DON'T ACHIEVE IT.
UM, THEY'RE NOT COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS THAT DRIVE OR CONTRIBUTE TO, UH, CONSUMER SPENDING.
THEY'RE NOT PARKS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE PLAY ASPECT OF WORK, UM, LIVE PLAY.
THEY'RE AESTHETICALLY DISPLEASING, UM, NOISY BOX BUILDINGS THAT REALLY DETRACT FROM THE COMMUNITY APPEAL IN ADDITION TO PRESENTING SOME OF THE LOGISTICAL CONCERNS THAT FOLKS HAVE SPOKEN TO ALREADY THIS EVENING.
UM, IN FACT, WE'VE MENTIONED SOME OF THOSE LOGISTICAL CONCERNS BEING THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, THE NOISE, UM, THE LIGHT POLLUTION AND, UM, I THINK MAYOR AROSE GROOMS AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ALITO YOUR POSITION ON THE CONDITIONAL, UM, USE VERSUS, UH, VERSUS, UH, CHANGING IT TO CONDITIONAL USE WAS PARTICULARLY WELL RECEIVED, UM, FOR DATA CENTERS IN PER, IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE IT REMAINS UNCLEAR IF ELECTRIC RELIABILITY WOULD BE MET, UM, IF WE PUT THESE, THESE HIGH ENERGY USE, UM, AND HIGH ENERGY INTENSIVE, UH, CENTERS RIGHT THERE WITHOUT BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT.
UM, LIKE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TODAY WAS, UM, UH, TODAY'S MEETING WAS SOMETHING THAT I HADN'T NOTICED BEFORE, UH, JUST A WEEK AGO WHEN I GOT A FLYER IN, IN THE MAILBOX.
SO JUST A QUICK SEARCH OF THINGS LIKE AEPS UH, TRANSMISSION PLANNING SITE.
THERE'S NOT TRANSMISSION PLANS, UM, PLANNED OUT FOR THIS AREA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR DISTRIBUTION LINES, UM, TO SORT OF SERVICE A, A HIGHLY, UH, ENERGY INTENSIVE CENTER LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN QUITE A FEW YEARS, UM, MY MOST RECENT READ OF THE PUCO TARIFFS FOR A EP OHIO SHOWED THAT IT WAS A 60 40 SPLIT FOR THE COST OF A NEW DISTRIBUTION LINE TO A NEW CUSTOMER.
SO 40 PER THAT 40% WOULD BE BORN BY THE REST OF THE CUSTOMERS.
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS PART OF OUR PROCESS AND FOR US TO BE AWARE OF.
UM, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT THAT THIS SHOULDN'T JUST BE A GIVEN.
THAT IT'S, IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, OBVIOUSLY A GIVEN.
UM, SO, UH, THOSE ARE REALLY, I THINK, VERY IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO BE AWARE OF BEFORE THE ZONING, UM, CHANGES ARE MADE.
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AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS.UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU AGAIN.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT RICHARD WEEKS.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
UH, MY NAME IS RICHARD WEEKS, UH, 5 8 2 6 HOCHI ROAD.
UH, I CAME HERE 35 YEARS AGO, ROUGHLY, UH, FROM THE AIR FORCE.
UH, FOUND A PLACE ON HAM DRIVE IN DUBLIN.
SPENT 10 YEARS THERE, UH, MOVED TO BALL ANDRE ON BARONS COURT.
WAY, SPENT 10 YEARS THERE AND THEN IT WAS TIME TO DOWNSIZE.
FOUND A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, OUT IN, UH, WE THE WEST, UH, AS PART OF UH, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, BUT IT WAS A DUBLIN ADDRESS AND WE SAID THAT'S GREAT.
AND IT WAS ALSO NEXT TO A RURAL TRANSITION AREA, WHICH WE FELT VERY COMFORTABLE WOULD PROTECT US FROM WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE.
UH, I'M A STAKEHOLDER IN THAT MY PROPERTY BUTTS UP TO ONE OF THE ID THREE I BELIEVE PRO AREAS.
AND I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT SEEING A 68 FOOT BUILDING OUT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
AND EVEN IF YOU MENTION A 200 FOOT BUFFER AREA, THAT'S NOT GONNA DO A WHOLE LOT FOR LOOKING AT A 68 FOOT BUILDING.
AND SECONDLY, UH, I GOT NOTIFICATION EARLY IN FEBRUARY THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A PLANNING, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, I WENT TO THAT, FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
THE FIRST I HEARD THAT THIS RURAL TRANSITION AREA WAS GOING TO BE CHANGED, UH, CAME TO THE, THIS MEETING, UH, I MISSED THE LAST ONE, BUT CAME TO THIS ONE.
AND I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW FAST THINGS ARE GOING.
I MEAN, WE ONLY GET NOTIFIED TWO MONTHS AGO THAT ALL THIS WAS GOING ON.
NOW YOU SAY THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING, YOU'VE BEEN TAKING, TALKING TO HOUS AND THINGS.
WE DON'T HAVE AN HOU OUT THERE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF GETTING NOTIFICATION OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING.
SO I'M VERY DISTURBED THAT WE'RE FACED WITH ALL OF THIS AND I NOTICE THERE'S A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S JUST GOING TOO DARN FAST.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB AND I'M SORRY FOR YOUR PER YOUR PROBLEMS
IF YOU COULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
WE RECEIVED NOTICE IN FEBRUARY OF A FEBRUARY MEETING, AND I ATTENDED THAT MEETING AND TOWARDS THE END OF THAT MEETING IT WAS SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DONE.
WE'VE DECIDED, WE'VE PRESENTED IT TO COUNCIL.
AND THAT'S HOW MUCH NOTICE WE GOT.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A, A RESIDENTIAL RURAL FLEX, YOU KNOW, TRANSITION ZONE.
UM, I'M GONNA SKIP TO 'CAUSE WE'VE HEARD A LOT, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE STARTED HEARING THE AMAZON NOISE.
BY ALL ACCOUNTS, THIS BUILDING IS NOT FULLY ONLINE AT ALL.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT THAT HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS IT.
UM, THERE'S STILL NO UNDER CONSTRUCTION DOWN THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW LOUD IT'S GONNA BE BE, AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST AND NOISE THAT YOU CAN HEAR.
AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
IF YOU DO THE RESEARCH ON IT, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FOX, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO IT.
BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST A TOWER NOISE.
IT'S NOISE THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMAGING.
IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE THE, THE HORNS AND THE ENGINES AND THE BREAKING FROM TRAINS OR SOCCER MATCHES OR SPORTING EVENTS OR THE OCCASIONAL EMS, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT HAPPEN OUT THERE, WHICH ISN'T VERY OFTEN.
THIS, IT'S, IT'S CALLED, UM, UH, LOW FREQUENCY NOISE.
IT GOES THROUGH ALMOST EVERYTHING.
AND LIKE THE SOUND ENGINEER MENTIONED, IF YOU DON'T BUILD YOUR EARTH AND MOUNDS AS HIGH AS THE PRODUCER
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OF THIS NOISE, IT'S NOT GONNA GET BLOCKED BY TREES OR FENCES OR SETBACKS.AND THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL DO THEIR RESEARCH ON THIS.
UM, VERY QUICKLY, AND I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, UM, THE VLF IS A, IS A CATEGORY, VERY LOW FREQUENCY, THREE TO 30 KILOHERTZ.
THE ELF, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH, IT'S OUT THERE ON THESE AMAZONS AND OTHER BUILDINGS SIMILAR.
UM, IT'S, UH, THREE TO 300 HERTZ, JUST HERTZ, NOT MEGAHERTZ.
IT TRAVELS SIX TO 6,000 MILES.
AND THERE'S ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS THAT THEY'RE STILL STUDYING.
NOW, THIS IS HOW WHALES TALK TO EACH OTHER ACROSS THE NORTH ATLANTIC.
THIS IS HOW NUCLEAR SUBS COMMUNICATE UNDER THE POLAR ICE CAPS AND, AND THROUGH OCEANS.
AND IT'S ALSO USED AS A MILITARY WEAPON CHECK INTO IT.
IT CAUSES UN IT CAN USE TO CAUSE UNCONSCIOUSNESS AND DISORIENTATION.
IT HAS POTENTIALLY DAMNING IN EFFECT ON INTERNAL ORGANS.
NOW, LISTEN UP, HYPERTENSION, INSOMNIA, ANXIETY, DECREASED COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE, NEUROLOGICAL AND METABOLIC.
THESE, THIS IS ACCORDING TO THE REPORTS FROM THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS REAL.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NUISANCE NOISE ORDINANCES, NUISANCE NOISE CODES.
WHAT ABOUT THE DAMAGING HEALTH EFFECTS THAT, THAT THIS ALL CAUSES? PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT BEFORE WE GO FORWARD.
THIS HAS HAPPENED MUCH TOO FAST, AS YOU CAN SEE.
AND TO SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR OVER A YEAR.
SO THEREFORE YOU HAD PLENTY OF NOTICE, WE DIDN'T GET NOTICE.
AND WE SHARE A PROPERTY LINE WITH THIS.
WE HAVE A SHARED PROPERTY LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND, UH, THAT IDEA OF MAKING A BIGGER BUFFER ZONE AND PUTTING UP TREES OR MORE TREES THAT DOES NOT ADDRESS ANYTHING LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT SHOULD BE GETTING DISCUSSED AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, FOR EVERYTHING THAT I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 35 YEARS.
DONE A GREAT JOB, BUT THIS IS GOING WAY TOO FAST.
CLEARLY, AND I, I URGE YOU TO, TO GIVE IT THE TIME, GIVE IT A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, AND TO RESPOND AND TO SHARE AS YOU HAVE DONE AND WE HAVE DONE TONIGHT.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
UH, MY NAME IS SANDY MCINTOSH.
I HAVE LIVED AT 5 7 9 2 TRAFALGAR LANE IN THE BALANCE TRAIN NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS.
I'M GONNA START BY ACKNOWLEDGING CITY MANAGER MEGAN O. CALLAHAN.
MEGAN AND I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL TOGETHER OVER 20 YEARS AGO.
I DON'T THINK WE SEE EYE TO EYE ON THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT SHE'S AN ASSET TO THE CITY AND I'M GLAD SHE'S HERE.
UM, I HAVE BEEN SPOILED BY THE CITY OF DUBLIN FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS AND ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT IT DOES.
FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS NOT SURE I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT IN PERSON TONIGHT, SO I SUBMITTED SOME COMMENTS ONLINE.
AND MS. DELGADO, WHO I SEE SITTING HERE NEXT TO ME TONIGHT, QUICKLY ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF MY COMMENTS, ASSURED ME THEY WOULD BE PRESENTED TO YOU IN YOUR WRITTEN MATERIALS.
AND THEN THE NICE YOUNG MAN, ZACH HOUNSELL, WHO I SEE TONIGHT, CALLED TO SEE IF HE COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THE PROPOSAL, THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE, THAT LEVEL OF CARING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT WITH MY PAST EXPERIENCES WITH THE CITY, WHICH DOES SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB OF MAINTAINING PARKS AND BIKE PATHS AND PUTTING ON COMMUNITY EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THE CITIZENS UNIVERSITY PROGRAM THAT I PARTICIPATED IN A FEW YEARS AGO.
SO IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN I LEARNED THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING ALLOWING WAREHOUSES, DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS, DATA CENTERS, AND MAYBE EVEN A HELIPAD TO BE BUILT DIRECTLY BEHIND MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOUSE.
SPECIFICALLY, YOU WOULD ALLOW UNTOLD NUMBERS OF SEMIS FROM TO AND FROM A DISTRIBUTION FACILITY AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.
OR YOU WANT ME TO LOOK AT THE COMPLETE EYESORE THAT IS A DATA CENTER, NOT TO MENTION THE NOISE THAT EMANATES FROM THEM.
THIS IS COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT WITH DUBLIN'S IDENTITY AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBURBAN COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES.
I AM NOT AGAINST DATA CENTERS OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF FACILITIES LIKE YOU'RE CONSIDERING
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ALLOWING, BUT I AM AGAINST BUILDING UGLY, NOISY FACILITIES NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.PUTTING THIS SORT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT UP AGAINST A LARGE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE KIND OF THOUGHTLESS DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING THAT I WOULD EXPECT FROM SOME OTHER NEARBY COMMUNITIES THAT I CHOOSE NOT TO LIVE IN.
FOR PRECISELY THAT REASON, SINCE I LEARNED THIS NEWS, ALL I KEEP ASKING IS WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? CERTAINLY NOT OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE 12 YEARS THAT I HAVE LIVED HERE.
I HAVE NEVER ONCE BEEN TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE.
I HOPE THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING ABOUT HOW STRONGLY I FEEL ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
I HEARD THAT THERE WERE 16 COMMENTS SUBMITTED ONLINE.
NOT ONE IN FAVOR OF THIS REZONING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEAK AFTER ME TONIGHT, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE IN FAVOR OF THIS REZONING.
LIKE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HERE, I AM BEGGING YOU DON'T DO THIS.
DON'T RUIN MY PROPERTY VALUE AND DON'T RUIN MY QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHAT IS OTHERWISE A LOVELY CITY TO LIVE IN.
THANK YOU ERIC BIDDLE, WELCOME.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
ERIC BIDDLE, 5 6 7 9 ENTRE WOODS DRIVE.
UH, SO ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, MY WIFE AND I STARTED DATING.
UH, SHE WAS, UH, A DUBLIN KAUFMAN STUDENT AND I WAS IN THE NEXT CITY OVER HILLIARD, UH, THE HILLIARD HIGH SCHOOL WHEN THERE WAS JUST ONE.
AND WE USED TO DRIVE BY TO EACH OTHER'S HOMES.
UH, WE WOULD DRIVE ON COS GRAY ROAD AND WE WOULD, WE PICKED OUT A PARTICULAR HOUSE AND WE SAID THAT WAS OUR DREAM HOME.
SOMEDAY WE WOULD BE MARRIED AND WE WOULD LIVE THERE.
AND WE'RE, UH, WE'RE ABOUT A HALF A MILE FROM THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE WE LIVE IN TRE WOODS.
AND, UH, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBOR MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD, BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORS.
AND, UH, WE, WE ARE TOO CONCERNED.
NEW THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD.
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHT POLLUTION, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE.
UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
UH, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND, UH, THE, THE HEALTH CONCERNS THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN MENTIONED.
AND SO WE JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD, UH, YOU WOULD CONSIDER.
AND WE, WE THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
WE THANK YOU FOR, FOR HEARING US AND GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
UH, MY PROPERTY'S SEVEN AND HALF ACRES, SO I MOVED TO DUBLIN 'CAUSE I LIVED ON A FARM.
I LIVED ON 150 ACRE FARM GROWING UP AND I COULDN'T STAND LIVING IN A TIGHT COMMUNITY.
I KNOW WHAT MANUFACTURING IS, SO I WANTED TO BE OUT IN THE COUNTRY.
A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO NOT BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE MY NEIGHBORS WHEN I WANT TO.
I GOT A COUPLE NEIGHBORS HERE, WHICH I REALLY ADORE.
BUT FINALLY I PICKED THAT PROPERTY 'CAUSE I HAD SPACE AND I COULD, YOU KNOW, BE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA EVENTUALLY.
AND I WAS IN A VERY RURAL AREA.
I'VE BEEN LUCKY 25 YEARS THERE.
BUT I WORKED FOR HONDA FOR 27 YEARS.
I KNOW WHAT MANUFACTURING'S ALL ABOUT.
I DESIGNED PARTS, I BUILD PROJECTS.
I JUST LAUNCHED THE HONDA PASSPORT.
I WAS LARGE PROJECT LEADER FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO I KNOW HOW PARTS ARE MADE AND HOW PRODUCTION'S DONE AND HOW THE POLLUTION CAN HAPPEN.
THERE'S TONS OF NOISE IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PAINT FACILITIES IN THERE, THERE COULD BE FUMES.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I MENTIONED ALL THE TRAFFIC.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR WHEN YOU ASK FOR A MANUFACTURING FACILITY.
AND I'LL ASK, ASK DUBLIN, HOW MANY MANUFACTURING FACILITIES DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IN YOUR CITY? CAN YOU NAME ONE? YOU'VE GOT NONE I THINK.
SO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
I'LL GIVE YOU A SURVEY OF WHAT HONDA DOES.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN MANUFACTURING.
NOW YOU, YOU'RE LABELING AS A TECH INNOVATION CENTER.
IT'S NOT THAT THIS IS HEAVY INDUSTRY IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
IT'S A GREAT WAY TO EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS.
THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS MONEY DRAWING IN COMPANIES AND CREATING MORE MONEY FOR THE, FOR THE CITY.
THE, THE TRAIN GOES DOWN THAT TRACKS, I CAN COUNT HOW MANY TIMES THERE, MAYBE FIVE TIMES.
IT DOESN'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD VERY OFTEN AND IT NEVER BLOCKS THE ROAD.
WHAT'S IT GONNA DO ABOUT BLOCKING MY ROAD, BLOCKING ALL THE OTHER ROADS? YOU CAN PUT A SPUR LINE IN THERE.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR PLAN IS.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS AND IT'S GONNA IMPROVE MY PROPERTY VALUE.
I GOT AN OVER A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE.
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GONNA DROP IN HALF IN VALUE.IS THAT FAIR? AM I GONNA GET ANY RETRIBUTION FOR THAT? NO, THE WATER IMPACTS, LIKE I'M ON A, WELL I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.
YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA 'CAUSE YOU'VE NEVER DONE IT.
SO IT'S NOT FAIR THAT YOU'RE QUICKLY RUSHING THIS THROUGH WITHOUT DOING THE IMPACT OF STUDY.
IT'S ALL ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS.
I RUN PROGRAMS, BILLION DOLLAR PROGRAMS FOR HONDA.
I UNDERSTAND HOW BUSINESS WORKS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH.
SO STOP AND PUMP THE BRAKES IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR 'CAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MANUFACTURING.
PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 57 6 TRAFALGAR LANE.
SO I ACTUALLY BACK UP AND WOULD VIEW THE, UH, PROPERTY THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO REZONE.
UM, I THINK I CAN'T SPEAK ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN UP HERE WITH PASSION GOING AGAINST THIS.
UM, I ALSO LEARNED OF THIS VERY LATE, UH, LAST WEEK WHEN I RECEIVED THE, THE FLYER.
UM, I'M REPRESENTING MY NEIGHBORS.
THEY WERE A LITTLE TOO LAZY TO ATTEND TONIGHT, SO IT FALLS ON ME.
IT WAS INTERESTING AND I'LL PROBABLY START TO ATTEND MORE FREQUENTLY.
I'D BE CURIOUS IF ANY OF YOU LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE DUBLIN THAT I MOVED INTO, I PREFER TO LIVE IN THE DUBLIN THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FOX DESCRIBED AND NOT VIEW A 70 FOOT BUILDING IN MY BACKYARD THAT HAS NOISE ALREADY.
CAUSE GRAY IS VERY NOISY AS A TWO LANE ROAD.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS PROPOSAL REQUIRES EXPANSION TO A FOUR LANE ROAD.
I WOULD ASSUME IF IT BECOMES HEAVY INDUSTRY, THERE WOULD BE, UH, SEMIS AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND THE ROAD.
I'M ALSO AN ACOUSTIC ENGINEER, NOT FOR NASA, BUT THE IDEA OF A A 70 FOOT MOUND IN THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE TO PROTECT THE VIEW AND AND SOUND FROM A 70 FOOT BUILDING THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.
UM, I'M TERRIFIED OF WHAT I'LL BE LOOKING AT, WHAT I'LL BE HEARING.
AND THIS WILL DESTROY THE PROPERTY VALUE, ESPECIALLY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON COS GRAY.
SO I WOULD REALLY REQUEST HEAVY CONSIDERATION AND MUCH MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL PLANS BEFORE ANY BIG PROPOSALS AND REZONING IS APPROVED.
WE DID RECEIVE ANOTHER COMMENT ONLINE DURING THIS MEETING.
THIS ONE WAS FROM JENNIFER CHUNG AT 5 6 6 1 ALDERBROOK DRIVE STRONGLY OPPOSING THE PROPOSAL TO OWN THIS AREA FOR INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USE.
THIS WOULD DRASTICALLY DISRUPT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING THIS AREA AND CAUSE INCREASED TRAFFIC ISSUES, WHICH THE ROADS AROUND THIS AREA CAN ILL AFFORD.
THERE ARE ALREADY PLENTY OF FACILITIES IN THE AREA FOR OFFICE USE.
SO IT SEEMS THIS AREA MAY END UP SUPPORTING MANUFACTURING OR DATA CENTERS, WHICH ARE AN EYESORE TO THE AREA AND DESTROY MUCH OF THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE, NOT TO MENTION THE DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE WHEN THESE TYPES OF STRUCTURES ARE CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED IN AND ALL THE COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT DIDN'T HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN IN THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I'M AT 7 0 1 1 INCH CAPE LANE.
I'M ALSO IN ENTRE, UM, COTTAGES OF ENTRE.
AND I HEARD OF THIS BECAUSE OF A FLYER THAT WAS PUT IN MY, UM, ON THE EDGE OF MY MAILBOX.
AND I'M VERY PLEASED THAT THAT HAPPENED.
I CAN'T EVEN SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH THAT I LOVE THIS CITY.
I MOVED HERE SPECIFICALLY, I GRADUATED OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY, GO BUCKS.
I GRADUATED OHIO STATE AND I DIDN'T ENVISION LIVING IN COLUMBUS.
UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HATE THE GRAY SKIES.
AND I LOVE THIS CITY BECAUSE IT'S SO GREEN AND IT'S SO LUSH AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
AND I ENVISIONED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE SPRAWLING SUBDIVISIONS LIKE BALLANT TRAY THAT WOULD MAYBE EXTEND INTO THOSE RURAL FARM AREAS.
SO I WAS HOPING THAT THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
AND WHEN I CAME TO FIND OUT, I'M ACTUALLY IN TECHNOLOGY AND I KNOW THE NOISE AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THOSE DATA CENTERS.
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AMAZON'S ONE OF MY CLIENTS, SO I, I LOVE THEM, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM NEAR MY HOUSE.UM, I WANT THEM FAR AWAY FROM MY HOUSE.
IN FACT, EVEN THE THE, WE OUGHT TO DO A STUDY CURRENTLY ON THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON COS GRAY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BAD.
IT'S SO BAD THAT WHEN WE GO WALKING ON THOSE REALLY NICE, LOVELY CURVY WINDY PATHS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, I DON'T EVEN WANNA GO NEAR, WE GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SUBDIVISION BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN SO LOUD THAT WE CAN'T GO OVER THERE.
IT JUST, I MEAN, IT LITERALLY HURTS MY EARS.
I WAS SHOCKED THE OTHER DAY WHEN I TRIED TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.
I THOUGHT I'D MAKE A QUICK TRIP OVER TO A GIANT EAGLE.
I COULDN'T GET OUT OF, WHAT WAS I ON CHURCH, CHURCH MISSION.
THAT ONE CHURCHMAN ONTO COS GRAY.
I I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IT WAS LIKE, PROBABLY FOUR O'CLOCK ISH, BUT I WAS SHOCKED AT THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE.
AND THAT'S NOW, THAT'S BEFORE ANYTHING HAS HAS GONE ON.
BUT THANK YOU FOR HEARING US ALL TONIGHT.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY REALLY PASSIONATE.
YOU'VE KIND OF GOTTEN US ALL
REALLY STOP AND DON'T DO THIS
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
I MEAN, MEAN WE NEED MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
THERE'S, THERE'S A, WE NEED MORE PICKLEBALL THERE.
THE LINE THERE IS LIKE TREMENDOUS RIGHT GUYS, SO SERIOUSLY, I, I'M KIND OF NOT KIDDING.
LIKE WE NEED MORE AREAS FOR OUR KIDS, FOR OUR FAMILIES TO SPRAWL OUT TO GREEN SPACE.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR GREEN SPACE.
AND THEN MOVE THAT THING OVER LIKE 500 YARDS SO THAT AT LEAST IT'S NOT ON COS GRIP.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS BEFORE WE CONCLUDE? YES SIR.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
UH, RICHARD MUSMAN, 5 6 8 8 ENTRE WOODS DRIVE LIVE IN THE ENTRE WOODS COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE HERE.
UM, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO, TO ADD IS WE MOVED HERE, MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE IN 2019 AFTER WE, I RETIRED FROM 40 YEARS OF GOVERNMENT SERVICE AT WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE AS AN AERONAUTICAL ENGINEER AND A CHIEF ENGINEER RESPONSIBLE FOR BILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS FOR THE AIR FORCE.
WE CHOSE TO BUILD IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION BECAUSE OUR CHILDREN LIVE HERE IN DUBLIN.
BUT BEFORE CHOOSING THAT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT, WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE CITY'S PLANS WERE FOR ACROSS COS GRAY.
AND AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID, THAT 2017 DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROPOSAL OR PLAN SHOWED RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM, UH, DENSITY HOUSING.
AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THE PLANS CHANGED AND THAT'S FINE, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY EXPLAINED EXCEPT FOR ONE GENTLEMAN WHO SAID, IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY.
WHAT CHANGED THE CHANGE THIS THE PLAN FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE BUILDER OF OUR HOME, SCHOTTENSTEIN HOMES WAS RUMORED TO HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT PARCEL, THOSE PARCELS OF LAND FOR CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DIDN'T GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
WHO KNOWS? AND AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, RAILROAD TRACKS, OKAY, WE LIVE THERE.
WE BUILT THERE KNOWING THEY WERE THERE.
SOMEBODY SAID THEY COME THROUGH FIVE, SIX TIMES A DAY.
SO I'M OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE IN PLANS IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH IT.
I THINK YOU OWE THE COMMUNITY AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY AND WHAT'S THE MOTIVATION BEHIND IT.
ANY OTHERS, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 58 45 GLENDA AND THAT'S IN BALL RE AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.
SO IS THE PROCESS THAT WE SAW TODAY WITH THE ZONING OF THIS AREA WITH THE ID THREES AND FOURS, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ZONING COUNCIL, THIS GROUP.
SO I WOULD ASK, IS THAT THE BEST THEY COULD COME UP WITH? DID THEY LOOK AT ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES? WHAT IS THEIR MOTIVATION FOR THIS PLAN? AND HAVE THEY LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES? BECAUSE TO ME SITTING HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THE ANSWER.
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TO YOU.AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LISTENING, BUT IT SEEMS HALF-BAKED.
THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WITH MANUFACTURING FACILITIES.
IT STARTS OUT WONDERFUL, BUT IT TENDS TO DETERIORATE OVER TIME.
THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ON COS GRAY ARE REAL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD, IF ANY OF YOU GUYS LIVE OVER THERE, IF YOU LIVED OVER THERE, I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO PAUSE AND THINK AT HONDA.
WE HAD A SAYING ABOUT GO TO THE SPOT, GO TO WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND OTH OTHERS HAVE, I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO GO TO THE SPOT AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THAT PARCEL OF LAND WHEN IT'S INDUSTRIALIZED.
DO WE NEED THIS? DOES DUBLIN NEED THIS? WHAT IS THE ECO ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THIS, OF REZONING THIS? DO WE NEED THE MONEY? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ANSWER? WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT DOING THIS? WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES TO GO FROM WHAT'S, WHAT'S MOST INDUSTRIALIZED? ID FOUR GOING FROM ID FOUR TO ID THREES OR ID THREES TO ID TWOS A PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, I THINK SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT ALTERNATIVES.
HAVE THEY PRESENTED ALTERNATIVES? HAS ANYBODY ASKED THE QUESTIONS? DO WE NEED ID FOUR? WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE ID FOUR? SO FOR ALL OF US SITTING HERE TONIGHT, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE SIMPLY WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THE ANSWER.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPECT COUNSEL OR SOMEBODY TO PROVIDE US SOME ALTERNATIVES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKS IN GOVERNMENT.
IN BUSINESS SOMEONE MAKES A PROPOSAL, IT GETS EVALUATED, THEY ASK FOR ALTERNATIVES, THEY'RE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS, THEY RESPOND TO QUESTIONS.
I I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY ANSWERS TONIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE AN AVENUE FOR US TO GET ANS ANSWER ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS? WHAT IS THAT AVENUE? ZACH'S ASSEMBLING A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WILL ADDRESS AT THE CONCLUSION OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES? WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS AT THE CONCLUSION OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS, SO THANK YOU.
I DO, I DO WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I SEE IT FEELS LIKE YOU GUYS CARE.
WOULD IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 32 80 LILY MA COURT, WHICH IS EAST OF THE SIDE OF THE RIVER.
AND I WELCOME MY WESTERN DUBLIN NEIGHBORS TONIGHT.
UH, THIS LAND SPEAKER JUST COMPELLED ME TO, UM, TO, UH, BROUGHT UP A MEMORY.
AND I WANNA SAY IT WAS IN THIS CHAMBER TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A, UH, MOTION TO REZONE A PARCEL, WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE Y BLOCK ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN ROUTE 1 61.
AND, UH, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A DESIGNATION, BRIDGE PARK, SOMETHING THAT ALLOWED FIVE STORIES MAXIMUM.
AND IT CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO REZONE THAT.
AND THEN THE NEW DESIGNATION THAT ALLOWED A SIX STORY BUILDINGS, ONE OF THE MEMBERS HAD SAID, HAD REMARKED DURING THAT HEARING.
THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL TO REZONE A PARCEL WITHOUT A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND SOME, SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT TONIGHT.
WELL, WHAT'S THE PLAN? SO MY TAKE ON THIS, UM, ACTION HERE TONIGHT, THIS VOTE IS, OKAY, COULD THIS JUST BE, UM, CODED ID ID TWO OR THREE FOR SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE USE? AND CERTAINLY THAT UNKNOWN IS THE SCARY PART.
SO, UH, JUST THINKING BACK TO, UH, A SITUATION IN A BRIDGE PARK, IF THAT IS TRUE, THAT IS VERY UNUSUAL TO DO A REZONING WITHOUT A MORE SPECIFIC PLAN.
I GUESS THEN IS THERE, IS THERE A PLAN
BUT ANYWAY, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.
ANY OTHERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? OKAY.
HEARING NONE, WE WILL, UM, MOVE ON TO, OH, I'M SORRY.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
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THANKS FOR PROVIDING THIS FORUM.UH, TED NICK, 6 6 0 2, UH, BARONS COURT LOOP.
UH, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE.
LIKE ALL OF OUR, UH, COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, RECOGNIZE THE COUNCIL HAS A DIFFICULT JOB IN GOING ABOUT MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE THE BETTER PEOPLE.
UH, COUNCILMAN FOX APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
SINCERELY, UH, FUNDAMENTALLY FOR ME AND A LOT OF FOLKS THAT I'VE TALKED TO, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY.
UH, BUT IT BOILS DOWN TO A COUPLE THINGS.
THE FIRST ONE IS WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOUSING CRISIS, NOT ONLY IN CENTRAL OHIO, BUT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.
SO LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING THAT IS, UH, AVAILABLE AND IN AN AREA THAT YOU CAN RAISE KIDS IN A NICE COMMUNITY IS IMPERATIVE IN MY OPINION.
TO HAVE, UH, PROVIDING DATA CENTERS HONESTLY GETS US TOO FAR AWAY FROM THAT.
SECONDLY, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, DATA CENTERS AND GOOGLE THIS, UM, DATA CENTERS, IF YOU GOOGLE ANYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE, UH, THERE'S RISK, UH, FROM A HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S, UH, RISK FOR RESPIRATORY CANCERS, A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.
NOW, I'M NOT NAIVE TO THINK THAT WE WANNA IMPEDE INNOVATION THAT'S OUT THERE, BUT THIS AREA IS JUST NOT THE AREA TO START WITH.
AND IF WE HAVE TO FIND DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS REQUIRING THAT, THEN I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
AND I WOULD ASK ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL, I'D ASK ANYBODY HERE THAT WERE MAKING THOSE TYPE OF DECISIONS TO SAY, IF THEY WERE LIVING CLOSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT AND SAID, HEY, YOU WANNA PUT A DATA UP THE CENTER ACROSS THE STREET WITH SOME OF THESE RISKS? YEAH, SIGN ME UP FOR THAT.
I I JUST THINK IT'S A, A MISSHAPE AND IDEA THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON HOLD, EVALUATED, AND MUCH LIKE A LOT OF THE FOLKS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT HERE TODAY, UH, I THINK A HARD LOOK NEEDS TO BE TAKEN ABOUT MOVING THIS, THIS PROJECT OFF, UH, OFF THE AGENDA TIME.
ANY OTHERS? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
UH, WE WILL, UH, NOW BEGIN OUR COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATIONS.
SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO, OH, DO YOU WANNA, OH, DO YOU WANNA DO THIS NOW? OKAY.
ZACH, THERE WERE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I MADE A BIT OF A LIST, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU DID A BETTER JOB THAN I DID.
UM, AND APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.
UM, JUST GOING FROM THE BEGINNING AND TRYING NOT TO DUPLICATE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD.
UM, UM, BUT THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT A RINGS ROAD DEVELOPMENT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT ONE, I, I THINK IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BALANCE TRAY, IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, I BELIEVE THE NAME OF THAT WAS AVERY CROSSING.
THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN THROUGH PLAYING IN ZONING COMMISSION AND IT'S STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO AT LEAST TWO MORE TIMES TO PLAN IN ZONING COMMISSION, BUT ALSO TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S A PROJECT THAT IS STILL, UM, IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC INPUT, UM, AS THAT GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, REGARDING UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, THE CITY IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT INTEGRATED IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY.
UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DIRECTLY TIED TO UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA AND TO SEE HOW WE HAVE THESE PLANS THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, THAT HAVE HAVE CHANGED AND BEEN UPDATED IN THE PAST 10 TO 15 YEARS.
UM, BUT HOW DO WE SEE A LOT OF THIS AREA COME, UH, COME FORTH AND, AND MEET KIND OF THE VISION THAT'S BEEN SHOWN OUT HERE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE AREA.
SO A LOT OF THAT IS LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE EXISTING STREET INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND THEN THE EXISTING UTILITIES AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AND UPDATED, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE A LOT OF, NOT JUST WHAT'S OUT THERE CURRENTLY, BUT WHAT COULD BE OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, NEXT THERE WAS A COMMENT OR QUESTION, SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HEIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS IT WAS STATED, THE CODE CURRENTLY HAS THE REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, ANYTHING OVER 68 FEET REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE.
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TAKE THAT BACK.I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AND, AND LOOK AND SEE, IS THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER, YES OR NO? IF IT'S NOT, WHAT ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT WE CAN SHARE AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ALL? WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO A STUDY OF THAT, UM, RELATIVELY SOON AND, AND WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION WITH THAT.
UM, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE TERM CONDITIONAL USE AS WELL.
UM, WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION AND DATA CENTERS NOW BEING BOTH CONDITIONAL USES OUT HERE, THAT PROCESS, ANYTIME AN APPLICATION WOULD COME FORWARD TO THE CITY, UH, THAT IS A DATA CENTER NOW OUT HERE, IT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL THROUGH THE PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS A PUBLIC PROCESS SIMILAR TO CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT.
UM, THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION WITHIN A CERTAIN, UM, DISTANCE, BUT THESE APPLICATIONS ARE ALSO PUBLISHED TO OUR WEBSITE.
UM, AND WE ALSO POST, UM, SIGNS OUT AT THE SITES TO TRY AND GET SOME VISIBILITY.
UM, BUT PART OF THE INTENT AND NATURE BEHIND A CONDITIONAL USE, I'M JUST READING SPECIFICALLY FROM THE CODE, AND IT SAYS, UH, THE NATURE OF CONDITIONAL USE IS SPECIFICALLY LISTED.
CONDITIONAL USES ARE PROVIDED WITHIN THE ZONING CODE OR ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND RECOGNITION THAT SUCH USES, ALTHOUGH OFTEN DESIRABLE, WILL MORE INTENSELY AFFECT THE SURROUNDING AREA IN WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED THAN THE PERMITTED USES OF SUCH ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT ARE MORE ATTRIBUTED TO, UM, POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO SURROUNDING AREAS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT IS A KEY COMPONENT OF THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY WHEN WE DO LOOK AT CONDITIONAL USES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO AGAIN, THAT IS NOT AN OUTRIGHT PERMITTED THING.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO BUILD OUT HERE, SHOULD THAT BE APPROVED, UM, OR SHOULD THE REZONING BE APPROVED ON THESE PROPERTIES? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.
IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PUBLIC PROCESS.
UM, NEXT KIND OF STATED WITH THE UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSWAY ROAD, UM, CURRENTLY IN OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS CONSIDERED TO BE A TWO LANE ROAD.
BUT AGAIN, WITH THIS, THIS, UH, INTEGRATED STRATEGY THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS AND TAKING A LOOK AT A LOT OF THE LOAD THAT GOES ON THESE STREETS AND HOW TO DESIGN THESE BETTER, UH, FOR BETTER SUSTAINABILITY LONG TERM.
UM, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JENNY TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE COMPREHENSIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN EFFORT.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS ONE SMALL, OBVIOUSLY ONE SMALL AREA OF THE CITY.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT COMMUNITY PLAN, FUT AND DESIGNATIONS FOR THOSE FUTURE LAND USE, WE LOOKED AT THAT CITYWIDE.
SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AND UM, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, HOW WAS THAT DECIDED? THAT WAS, IT'S NOT JUST COLORS ON A MAP THAT WAS STUDIED TO ZACH'S POINT FROM A UTILITY STANDPOINT, FROM A TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO FROM A FISCAL STANDPOINT.
SO WE HAD A SEPARATE CONSULTANT AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, LOOK AT HOW DO WE BALANCE THESE USES CITYWIDE AND HOW DO WE LOCATE THOSE APPROPRIATELY? AND THERE WAS A, A SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WITH THE DATA AND RESEARCH AND ECONOMIC FORECAST FOR HOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THAT BALANCE ON A CITYWIDE.
SO WITHIN THE SOUTHWEST AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS WHERE, AS PART OF THAT COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS, WE IDENTIFIED RE A FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT KNOWING THAT THE WEST INNOVATION WAS REALLY WHERE WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS INNOVATION.
UM, AND FLEX INNOVATION USES BEING TARGETED.
SO I CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE MORE DETAIL, BUT THAT WAS A VERY THOUGHTFUL PROCESS.
AGAIN, IT WASN'T JUST WHERE CAN THIS BE LOCATED? IT WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FROM A FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE STANDPOINT FOR THE CITY, HOW DO WE BALANCE THOSE USES AND WHERE ARE THOSE IDENTIFIED? SO, SO HOPEFULLY THAT CAPTURES, UM, A LOT OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
UM, I HAD ONE MORE ITEM JOTTED DOWN AND THAT WAS, I HEARD A FEW COMMENTS THAT REFERENCED AMAZON'S CURRENT STATUS ON THEIR SITE.
I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT AMAZON STILL HAS CONSTRUCTION TO DO, OR THERE WERE FUTURE PHASES.
AMAZON IS COMPLETELY BUILT OUT ON THEIR CURRENT SITE.
SO THAT'S THE STATUS OF AMAZON.
UM, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY DATA CENTER PROPOSALS ON THESE SITES AT THIS POINT.
UM, WE WILL START WITH, UM, OUR DIALOGUE HERE ON THE DAIS.
IF WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO BEGIN? I'LL START.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA START BY SAYING I AM IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS.
I THINK WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
THAT BEING SAID, WELL, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING TONIGHT.
I REALLY WISH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIDN'T GET MIXED UP AND YOU WOULD'VE BEEN HERE THE LAST 18 MONTHS FOR ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, I'LL, I WILL REQUEST THE STAFF, IF YOU COULD GO BACK AND LIKE, LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS, FIND OUT HOW MUCH BOUNDARY REPRESENTATION WE HAD,
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UM, IN THOSE VARIOUS MEETINGS, UM, JUST TO PULL LITTLE DATA THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.UM, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOMEWHERE SOMETHING GOT MISSED IF WE HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE TONIGHT.
UM, THE, WHAT I JUST WANT, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS I'M GOING TO ADDRESS FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS.
I'M NOT GONNA GET TO EVERYTHING.
THIS IS GONNA, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION, BUT ONE WAS THAT, UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE MANUFACTURING IN DUBLIN AND WE DO, AND WE DO A GOOD JOB WITH IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S HERE.
UM, AND THE MANUFACTURING WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS A LIGHT MANUFACTURING.
THIS IS NOT LARGE SCALE HEAVY MANUFACTURING.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DRIVE AROUND THE CITY, YES, THERE IS MANUFACTURING HERE, UM, AND THE, UM, HACA USA ON ON, UM, SHIRE RINGS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU, MAKES PARTS SUPPLY CHAIN FOR HONDA.
SUPPLY CHAIN FOR HONDA IS ONE OF THEIR SUPPLIERS.
UM, THEY, WE'VE, WE'VE AT THE, ALMOST EVERYONE UP HERE HAS TOURED THEIR MANUFACTURING FACILITY AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE, LIKE THE STUFF IN THERE THAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.
BUT ANYHOW, THERE ARE OTHERS AS WELL.
UM, THE, THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER COMMENT OF WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT WOULD I TOO, AND I THREW, THERE'S ALREADY, THIS ZONING ALREADY EXISTS.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2014 OR SOMETHING.
THE STUFF THERE, SOME STUFF HAS BEEN BUILT UNDER THIS.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, THE, THE STUFF ALONG, UH, 1 61, THERE'S, WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE EXISTING DATA CENTER, THE OSU HOSPITAL, ALL THAT STUFF IN THE WEST, THE OLD WEST INNOVATION PLAN, THE 2017 PLAN, THOSE WERE ALL BUILT UNDER THE CODE WE HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT IN OUR PREVIOUS ORDINANCE.
SO IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, AND THEN MY, MY LAST, UM, COMMENT WAS JUST AS, AS, UM, WAS MENTIONED, THERE IS A CURRENT STUDY, THE WEST INNOVATION INTEGRATION IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
WE ARE REALLY CONSIDERING TRAFFIC AND, AND ALL THOSE, AND, AND SOMEONE MENTIONED POWER.
AND SO ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF, IT IS STILL BEING STUDIED.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS TO TABLE THIS TONIGHT TOO, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS OF THOSE STUDIES YET.
UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER COMPONENTS OF THIS.
IT REALLY HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN, IN MANY, MANY DIFFERENT SETTINGS.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, PERHAPS THE TITLE OF THOSE THINGS OR THOSE DOCUMENTS OR THOSE STUDIES, UM, DIDN'T DRAW YOUR ATTENTION IN SOME EMAIL.
UH, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE STAFF, UH, GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU WITH ALL THE EXISTING STUDIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S HARD TO FIND STUFF ON OUR WEBSITE.
I TOO GOOGLED WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT EARLIER TODAY AND I COULDN'T FIND IT JUST THROUGH GOOGLE.
SO, UM, YOU CAN'T FIND THE, I GUESS THE, THE BOUNDARIES AND THE OLD STUFF.
IT'S BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR NEW STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH ISN'T CALLED THE SAME THING AS OUR OLD ONE.
SO THERE IS SOME ISSUES THERE, WHICH WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK ON.
SO I TOO AM IN FAVOR OF PUMPING THE BRAKES.
AS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE HERE.
THE HEIGHT, THE ROUTING OF TRAFFIC, UH, IF THERE WERE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT, WHERE WOULD THEY COME IN AND OUT? UM, BUT FOR ME, WE HAVE ONE PROBLEM WE CAN SOLVE RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT IS THE DATA CENTER NOISE AND WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING, I'VE EXPERIENCED IT, IT'S ANNOYING.
IT COULD BE A SUNDAY AFTERNOON, A PEACEFUL SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
AND NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU HEAR IT.
I, I, I'VE EXPERIENCED IT MYSELF, BUT THIS ISN'T UNIQUE TO DUBLIN.
AND THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS VERY SAME THING.
AND IF, IF IT'S AMAZON OR WHOEVER IT IS, WANTS TO BUILD ANY MORE DATA CENTERS, THEY HAVE TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT MOUNDING 80 FEET, IT'S ABOUT CONTAINING THE NOISE ON TOP OF THE BUILDING.
THEY HAVE DONE THIS AND IT'S, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE EMPOWERED TO FIX THAT PROBLEM WITH THEM.
IF THEY WANT TO BUILD ANOTHER DATA CENTER, THEY HAVE TO FIX THE PROBLEM HERE AND EVERYWHERE THEY'RE DOING IT.
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THE, THE QUESTION ABOUT ECONOMIC IMPACT AND IS IT ALL ABOUT THE MONEY? UM, I'VE GIVEN THIS LECTURE MANY TIMES AND I'M SURPRISED WHEN A LOT OF RESIDENTS DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW DUBLIN WAS ABLE TO AFFORD THE AMENITIES AND PROVIDE THE AMENITIES THAT WE DO TODAY.IF YOU PAY $10,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES, THE CITY OF DUBLIN GETS $200.
THAT DOESN'T PAY FOR YOUR TRASH PICKUP.
IT DOESN'T PAY FOR US TO PLOW YOUR STREETS.
ALL THE AMENITIES THAT YOU HAVE.
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT WE DO THAT APPROVED AND, UH, NOT ONLY APPROVED YOUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT COMPELLED THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD IT THE WAY IT IS TODAY, WAS BECAUSE OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
WE'RE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE THINGS.
NOT BECAUSE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES PAYING US $200 PER 10,000.
WE'RE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE THINGS BECAUSE OF WENDY'S AND, UH, CARDINAL HEALTH AND COMPANIES LIKE THAT.
AND I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, ARE THERE MORE PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE BUILDINGS TODAY THAN THERE WERE IN 2018 OR LESS? SIMPLE QUESTION.
SO WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THOSE COMPANIES IN OUR COMMUNITY? WE'RE NOT IN TROUBLE, FOLKS.
WE'VE CELEBRATED, DESPITE THE FACT THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME.
WE'VE CELEBRATED THE FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE'VE TOPPED A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN INCOME TAX REVENUE.
BUT AS WE'VE, YOU'VE LIVED THROUGH, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN DUBLIN FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS, FORETHOUGHT THINKING AHEAD, LOOKING AHEAD.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PARCELS NEXT TO A RAILROAD.
OKAY? NOW, DO WE WANNA HAVE 80, 80, UH, FOOT BUILDINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE OUT YOUR, OUT YOUR DOORSTEP? PROBABLY NOT.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT DRIVEN PAST THE INTEL SITE TO DRIVE OUT THERE, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW INTEL'S THERE.
I I WOULD, I WOULD ARGUE MOST PEOPLE ARE PRETTY HAPPY THAT INTEL CAME TO CENTRAL OHIO, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE ACROSS FROM IT.
AND I GET THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT.
AND I SEE SOME GAWS IN THE AUDIENCE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.
BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT WE DO NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE IF WE WANT TO HAVE ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE AMENITIES THAT WE ARE.
BUT WE'RE TABLING THIS TONIGHT SO WE CAN THINK AHEAD AS WE ALWAYS HAVE.
UM, I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO HEAR ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS.
IT GIVES US LOTS OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT, MAKES US THINK A LITTLE HARDER.
MAKE FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE.
UM, ANDY MAKES A REALLY GOOD POINT.
UH, AND DUBLIN'S SOUNDED IT GREAT OVER THE YEARS ON A, ON A REZONING LIKE THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ABOUT, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP AT OUR WORK SESSION AND I BROUGHT THIS UP TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TO JAMIE GREEN AT, AT PLANNING NEXT.
UM, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF, UM, WORKING WITH PLANNING NEXT TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR STUDIES.
WE'VE GOT THE, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX STUDY THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
WE HAVE A HOUSING STUDY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE THE 2016 OU OHIO UNIVERSITY'S FRAMEWORK PLAN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SIT SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
UM, WE HAVE SPECIAL AREA PLANS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THE WEST DUBLIN.
UM, PASSENGER RAIL PLAN IS ANOTHER ONE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
THE SIGNATURE TRAIL, THE DARIA FIELD SPORTS COMPLEX.
AND DURING THE WORK SESSION, AND THIS IS WHY I ALSO WANNA TABLE IT, IS BECAUSE JAMIE GREEN SAID TO US THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STUDY THAT AND IT'LL LEAD TO AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY.
AND AT THE END OF THE STUDY, WE'LL PROPOSE AN INTEGRATED MAP OF THE FULL BUILD OUT SCENARIO IN THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN AND CONDUCT AN ANALYSIS OF ANTICIPATED USES, NOT PERMITTED, USES, NOT CONDITIONAL ANTICIPATED USES.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS THE HOUSING, THE TRANSPORTATION, AND THE UTILITIES.
AND THEY'LL RETURN TO COUNCIL AND THEY'LL PROVIDE SPECIFIC FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION.
WE'LL GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND AFFIRM THE DRAFT STRATEGY
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PRIOR TO ADOPTION.AND WE'LL HAVE STRATEGY, ADOPTION PROCESSES AND OP AND, AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IF WE ALL KNEW, AND I BELIEVE THAT DUBLIN CAN MAKE THIS ENTIRE AREA GOOD FOR ALL OF US, GOOD FOR ALL OF YOU, GOOD FOR THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE CITY.
BUT WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T TAKE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE NOT KNOWING WHERE WE'RE GOING AND ZONE SOMETHING THAT WHAT IF IT'S NOT RIGHT? WHAT IF THE ANTICIPATED USERS ARE ALL WRONG? THE OTHER THING IS, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY SUCCESS IN THIS CITY WITHOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND I THINK THAT THIS WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT CAN BE BEAUTIFUL IF YOU SIT AT THE TABLE WITH US AND HELP US FIGURE OUT THE BEST OUTCOMES.
AND THIRD, THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES.
YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, THE CITY PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE LAND AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANNA BE ON THE LAND.
AND WE HA WE KNOW SOON, WE HOPE WE HEAR WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA GET PASSENGER RAIL.
WILL THAT CHANGE THE WHOLE SCENARIO? WHO KNOWS? UM, SO I THINK WE TAKE THE TIME AND THIS STUDY, THE ANALYSIS PROCESS ISN'T EVEN IS SUPPOSED TO, IS GOING UNTIL AUGUST.
UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TIME TO TALK, A LOT OF TIME TO THINK.
AND I WOULD PREFER TO BE PROACTIVE AND WELL-PLANNED THAN ZONE SOMETHING AND BE REACTIVE AND GET STUCK WITH SOMETHING WE CAN'T GET RID OF.
SO I'M ALSO FOR HOLDING OFF, GETTING A REALLY GOOD PICTURE, WORKING WITH OUR PEOPLE HAND IN HAND WITH OUR PLANNING STAFF, WHICH IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD.
AND, UM, AND DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
HEY, I WANNA SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PUBLIC INPUT AFTER, UH, I FIGURED IT OUT.
IT'S AN URBAN PLANNER AND AS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND WROTE, WROTE SOME OF YOUR EARLY LAWS, I THINK THAT REALLY IMPACTED THIS CITY.
SO I'VE SAT THROUGH DOZENS OF GROUPS JUST LIKE YOU IN YOUR NUMBERS.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE NOT BACK.
IT WAS HAPPY DAYS WHEN DUBLIN WORKED ITS WAY THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TELL YOU.
UM, ZACH AND THE URBAN PLANNER THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE LIGHT RAIL, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A SMALL TOWN THERE.
IT'S REALLY A FUN PLACE TO GET ON A TRAIN AND GO TO A RED GAME OR GO UP TO CHICAGO.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WORRIED AND YOU SHOULD BE.
AND I'M JUST GLAD TO TELL YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO HEAR YOU.
AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE A, UH, TOWN CENTER UP BY THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T FIGURED ANY OF THIS OUT YET.
WE'RE STILL JUST WORKING ON IT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS SAID TONIGHT, I I, YOU KNOW, OH, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HAVE A 60 FOOT BUILDING THAT I'M GONNA LOOK AT.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A ZONING HERE WHERE IF THERE EVER WAS A BUILDING, THEY STEPPED IT UP AND STEPPED IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE AESTHETICS WERE ALWAYS TAKEN CARE OF IN EVERY CASE THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IN 45 YEARS.
SO ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS, UM, ARE PRETTY WORKED OUT BY A REALLY EXCELLENT STAFF OF PLANNERS AND WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE 'EM.
UM, YES, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE PEOPLE STAMPING OUT STEEL HERE, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW IT.
THERE'S SOME REALLY COOL IN INDUSTRIES IN THIS TOWN, BUT THEY'RE SO WELL HIDDEN.
THEY'RE UP THE ROAD FROM YOU GUYS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN UGLY MESS IF DUBLIN GETS INVOLVED, IT'S USUALLY NOT.
SO, I, I WANNA QU YOUR FEARS, I GUESS, UM, ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE BUILT YOU A WALKABLE CITY LIKE IN EUROPE WHERE THE MOST ADVANCED ONE IT'S CONSIDERED IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE BEST ONE IN THE UNITED STATES, BY THE WAY, IT'S RATED AS A TOP CITY.
EVERYBODY FROM, UM, PORTLAND, OREGON TO MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM MAINE TO TEXAS IS COPYING THAT CITY.
'CAUSE IT'S THE MOST SUCCESSFUL WALKABLE CITY IT'S BEEN BUILT.
SO YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE IN THE GOVERNMENT AND WE GOTTA HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOU.
YOU'VE GOTTA PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS TO GET THIS THING TO WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE IT.
AND IT'S A GREAT AMENITY FOR ALL OF US.
ALL OF US LIVE HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE IT.
I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT CITY AND WE KNOW IT'S THE APEX CITY IN OHIO AND VOTED THE BEST CITY IN OHIO AND 10 MILLION OTHER REWARDS.
SO YOU JUST GOTTA WORK WITH US HERE A LITTLE BIT.
SOME OF YOU'RE SURPRISED AND SOME OF YOU DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR ALL THE REST OF THE STUFF WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, AND THAT'S OKAY.
BUT I'M JUST HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE DO SOMETHING, WE DO IT RIGHT.
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DOUBLING WAY.AND EVEN MANUFACTURING IS DOUBLE INIZED HERE.
WE CALL IT DUBLIN EYES 'CAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE OTHER MANUFACTURING, ALL THE DIRT AND THE METAL THROWING AROUND AND ALL THE OTHER JUNK YOU SEE.
SO THE GUY THAT, WELL, ONE OF 'EM I'M THINKING OF IS HAVING A CHERRY BLOSSOM FESTIVAL WITH 400 CHERRY TREES AND A, AND A AND A GIANT, UH, FOOD THING FOR GUESTS.
I MEAN, WE, WE DO THINGS PRETTY COOL HERE AND WE'VE ALWAYS SEEN THAT IT HAPPENS THAT WAY FOR YOU AND FOR YOUR BENEFIT.
SO THAT'S THE DUBLIN LIFESTYLE.
THANKS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
I I HATE TO KEEP YOU FOR ALMOST THREE HOURS.
UM, UH, I TOO AM VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT.
I AM NOT SURE WHERE WIRES GOT CROSSED WITH COMMUNICATION, BUT WE WILL WORK ON THAT.
UM, UM, I KNOW I TEND TO BE ONE OF THE QUIETER COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.
I MAY BE THE ONLY ACTUAL INTROVERT, SO I WILL JUST SPEAK TO YOU FROM MY HEART.
UM, YOU KNOW, I TOO MOVED HERE TO DUBLIN BECAUSE IT'S A, AN AMAZING COMMUNITY.
PART OF WHAT MAKES IT AMAZING ARE THE PEOPLE LIKE MY COLLEAGUES.
WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND DIFFERENT TALENTS THAT WE BRING TO THIS TABLE, BUT IT'S REALLY ALL FOR NAUGHT WITHOUT OUR RESIDENTS.
WE TOO ARE RESIDENTS AND, AND WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.
I LOVE THAT YOU FEEL EMPOWERED TO HAVE A VOICE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, AND IT DOES, BY THE WAY, IMPACT THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE SOMETIMES IN REALLY BIG AND PROFOUND WAYS.
I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT ALL THE FINANCIALS THAT ANDY ALREADY TOLD YOU.
WE GET VERY LITTLE OF YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.
PART OF HOW WE DO WHAT WE DO IS TO BALANCE THAT INCOME TAX THAT WE GET SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT WE, THAT WE ENJOY HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD KIDS THAT WENT TO HILLIARD CITY SCHOOLS AS WELL AS DUBLIN CITY SCHOOLS.
SO I WAS DRIVING BACK AND FORTH A LOT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE A BLENDED FAMILY.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I I JUST VERY MUCH APPRECIATE STAFF'S COMMITMENT.
I I THINK IT'S AWESOME THAT, YOU KNOW, MEGAN MAYBE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT REALLY RESPECT EACH OTHER AND THAT THIS IS WHAT PUBLIC DISCOURSE BY THE WAY, IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO KUDOS TO YOU, TO MY COLLEAGUES, TO OUR STAFF.
THIS IS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO I ALSO WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF, OF TABLING THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UM, HAD SOME INTERVIEWS WITH OUR CONSULTANT WHO'S HELPING US WITH THIS AREA.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HE ASKED ME, UM, WAS DO I THINK THAT WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW, OR WHAT IT WAS, IS IT POTENTIALLY IN SOME OF THIS CODE IS TRULY INNOVATIVE FOR A WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, RIGHT? TO REALLY LIVE UP TO THE, THAT MIDDLE WORD.
AND THAT, AND I SAID I NOT REALLY, I MEAN, I, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HOSPITALS COULD BE INNOVATIVE, RIGHT? IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE AMAZING AND INCREDIBLE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT THEY'RE DEVELOPING IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARALYTICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO TO GET THERE.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE CAN GET THERE.
I I FEEL VERY MUCH THE SAME WAY.
UM, AND I REALLY WOULD PREFER TO DO IT TOGETHER.
I SAID BEFORE, CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY ALL THE TIME.
UM, BUT IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WE'LL FIND THE SOLUTION THAT MAKES THE MOST NUMBER OF US HAPPY.
UM, AND, AND WILL ENABLE US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT WILL THRIVE WORK, PLAY, LIVE FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO COME.
WE HAVE HAD COUNCILS AND RESIDENTS AND STAFF THAT HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO ALLOW THIS COMMUNITY TO BECOME A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHY WE ALL LIVE HERE.
SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
THANKS FOR THE, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND THE DEDICATION OF STAFF.
WELL, UM, I, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND SET SOME EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WHERE IS IT THAT WE GO FROM HERE.
SO, UM, THERE APPEARS TO BE SUP SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT FOR, UM, MAKING SURE THAT UNDER EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE GOT HERE.
AND SO, UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE STAFF REACHING OUT.
UM, I BELIEVE IF YOU ALL SIGNED IN, WE HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS CORRECT.
UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE STAFF REACHING OUT IN THE NEAR TERM TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH YOU THAT WILL BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON, UM, WHERE WE'VE BEEN, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, UH, A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO GATHER YOUR FEEDBACK OF, UM, MAYBE SOME MORE IN DEPTH THAN WHAT YOU HAVE SHARED WITH US TONIGHT.
UH, AND THEN WE WILL RESUME THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO GET ZONING IN PLACE FOR THESE, BECAUSE THERE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ANTICIPATING, UH, THE USE OF THEIR LAND.
AND WE WANNA BE MINDFUL OF EVERYONE, RIGHT? THE, I I SPOKE AT THE SEVENTH GRADE CLASSES TODAY.
I HAD FOUR SEVENTH GRADE CLASSES TODAY.
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THE HARDEST THING ABOUT YOUR JOB? AND I SAID, RUNNING A LOCAL DEMOCRACY IS CLEARLY THE HARDEST THING THAT WE DO.AND SO, UM, YOU ARE OUR CONSTITUENTS.
YOU ARE NOT OUR ONLY CONSTITUENTS, BUT YOU ARE VERY IMPORTANT CONSTITUENTS.
AND WE ARE THRILLED OUR HEARTS SWELL WHEN THIS CHAMBER IS FULL BECAUSE THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND SO I WANT YOU TO HEAR THAT AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT'S TRUE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN THIS ROOM THAT HAVE THOUGHTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOURS AND THEIR THOUGHTS ARE IMPORTANT TOO.
SO I JUST WANNA SET THE STAGE FOR THE EXPECTATIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO I, YOU WILL, YOU CAN EXPECT IN THE NEAR TERM TO RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM OUR PLANNING STAFF THAT WILL HOST A MEETING, THAT WILL PROVIDE DRAWINGS AND HISTORY AND ITERATIONS AND ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS FOR YOU TO REACT TO AND TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.
AND THEN YOU CAN EXPECT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK OF WHERE YOU THINK YOU, UM, YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THOSE PLANS AND THE CHANGES THAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO SEE TO OTHER PLANS.
AGAIN, THIS REPRESENTS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACRES TOTAL OR NEARLY 120 ACRES TOTAL IN THE, IN THIS REZONING ROUGHLY.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE NUMBER PLEASE, BUT I I JUST SAY THAT IT'S BIG, THAT IT'S A, THAT IS A LARGE AREA THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
AND SOME OF IT IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, SOME OF IT IS NOT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE A BLANKET SOLUTION.
BUT I, I DO WANT TO SET EXPECTATIONS THAT THERE IS SUPPORT FOR THIS BEING TABLED TONIGHT.
UM, WE DID, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE VERY HUMAN, BUT WE DID HAVE EVERY ATTEMPT TO ENGAGE YOU IN THIS PROCESS TO THUS FAR.
I, I THINK, UM, RIGHT, THERE'S YOUR STORY AND THERE'S OUR STORY AND THE TRUTH LIES SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW THINGS GO.
AND SO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, TO TAKE PAUSE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET IT RIGHT AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET HEARD AND UNDERSTAND, UH, UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
SO I WANNA SET THAT EXPECTATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD JUDICIOUSLY.
UM, THAT, THAT THOSE THINGS WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEAR TERM AND THEY WILL BE ON A SCHEDULE, UH, THAT WE HOPE THAT, THAT, UH, STAFF AND YOU ALL CAN AGREE ON.
AND WE WILL HOST THAT MEETING IN A PLACE THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR YOU WHERE THEY CAN MAKE THE PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE.
OKAY? SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ORDINANCE ZERO SIX DASH 25.
IS THERE, UH, A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I'M A SECOND.
DID YOU HAVE, WERE DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING OR WERE YOU SECONDING? I WAS JUST SECONDING.
UM, WITH THAT, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MS. CRAM? YES.
WE DO HAVE OTHER BUSINESS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
UH, AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY.
I'M SURE IT WILL BE EXHILARATING.
UH, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE CHAMBER, FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
[Ordinance 09-25]
WILL BRING US TO THE INTRODUCTION FIRST READING ORDINANCES PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.WE WILL BEGIN WITH ORDINANCE ZERO NINE DASH 25, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND OTHER RELATED AGREEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF JAY BLOCK WITH CRAWFORD HAWAIIAN DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, LLC.
UM, OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY JENNY ROUSH, UH, AND WILL, SHE WILL BE ASSISTED BY GREG DANIELS.
AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE YOUR CON CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER AS WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO CONDUCT HERE.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SIT AND, AND LISTEN TO THE BALANCE OF OUR MEETING.
UM, SO THIS IS, UM, THE INTRODUCTION TO ORDINANCE, UM, 0 9 25, WHICH IS, UM, REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH, UM, CRAWFORD HOING, UM, DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.
SO STAFF AND CRAWFORD HOING HAVE BEEN WORKING, UM, COLLABORATIVELY ON THIS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UM, TO GET TO GET TO YOU TONIGHT.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO GREG, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSAL.
SO, UM, THE DEVELOPER IS IN THE INITIAL PLANNING STAGES OF THIS, UM, PROPOSAL.
UM, THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BRIDGE PARK AVENUE AND DALE DRIVE.
UM, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A CONSTRUCTION OF AN OFFICE, UM, BUILDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, UM, PLUS WITH RESTAURANT RETAIL ON THAT GROUND STORY.
SO THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT AT THAT CORNER, UM, OF DALE DRIVE AND BRIDGE PARK AVENUE.
IT ALSO INCLUDES 198 CONDO UNITS, WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN TWO PHASES.
SO YOU SEE THE BUILDING THAT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT'S PHASE
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ONE.THE PORTION IN THE LOWER LEFT THAT IS, UM, SORT OF GREENED OUT, UM, IS THEN A FUTURE PHASE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CURRENT CODE OF PARK AND RIDE SITE IS.
UM, SO THAT THOSE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THOSE UNITS IS 194.
UM, THIS ALSO INCLUDES A, UM, 508 SPACE PARKING GARAGE AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL AND THEN SOME, UM, CONSTRUCTION OF SOME NEW PUBLIC STREETS AS PART OF THIS WITHIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CODE.
UM, THE OFFICE BUILDING, UM, THAT I HIGHLIGHTED IS PART OF A PREVIOUS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CENOVUS ENERGY, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF 2024.
UM, AND THAT INCLUDES OBVIOUSLY, UM, INCENTIVES, BUT THEN ALSO A REQUIREMENT THAT THE COMPANY OCCUPY THE BUILDING BY APRIL OF 2027.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS, UM, WITH THAT.
IN TERMS OF THE REVIEW PROCESS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE CONCEPT PLAN MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, WHICH THAT, UM, CONCEPT PLAN WILL COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
AT THIS POINT, IT'S SCHEDULED TO COINCIDE WITH THE SECOND READING, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MEETING, SO THAT'S APRIL 21ST.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO GREG AND LET HIM GET INTO ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WE'LL TRY TO BE, UH, RELATIVELY BRIEF ON THIS, UH, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS THE, UH, THE THIRD TIME.
UH, WE ARE CONSIDERING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CRAWFORD HORN FOR A BRIDGE STREET DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE ARE, UM, GETTING A PRETTY GOOD AT THE TEMPLATE FOR DEVELOPING THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THESE BLOCKS.
UH, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROVIDES THE FRAMEWORK FOR THAT.
UM, AS I'M SURE JENNY WOULD LIKE ME TO NOTE.
THE AGREEMENT, HOWEVER, DOES NOT SUBSTITUTE OR SUPERSEDE ANY OF THE APPLICABLE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OR APPROVAL PROCESSES.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS PRIMARILY FOR THE FUNDING OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, AND SIMILAR TO OTHER BLOCKS, THERE ARE, UH, TWO FAMILIAR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED, AND ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT NEW FOR THESE BLOCKS.
SO THE FAMILIAR ONES ARE THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IF YOU PICTURE THE BLOCK, THERE'S THE ROADS AROUND THE BLOCK, AND THEN THERE'S A CENTRAL ROAD THROUGH THE BLOCK.
TRADITIONALLY WITH THE OTHER BLOCKS.
AND AS PROPOSED HERE, WE'LL USE THESE PUBLIC FINANCE TOOLS TO FUND THOSE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE BLOCK.
UH, SIMILAR TO OTHER BLOCKS, THERE IS ALSO A, UH, 500 SPACE PLUS PARKING GARAGE, UH, THAT WILL BE LARGELY PUBLIC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS IN PAST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND BLOCKS.
WE'LL ALSO BE USING AS PROPOSED THE, UH, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REVENUES AND NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY CHARGES FROM THE BLOCK TO FUND THAT PARKING GARAGE.
THE THING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK IS THERE IS A LARGE OPEN SPACE ON THE BLOCK.
MOST OF THE OTHER BLOCKS HAVE RELIED ON THE PARK, UM, ACROSS RIVERSIDE OR OTHER SMALLER POCKET PARKS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA TO SATISFY OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A LARGE PARK WITH WATER FEATURES, UM, A CREEK RUNNING THROUGH IT THAT'S UNIQUE TO THIS BLOCK, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS MONEY AFTER FUNDING THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PARKING GARAGE, THE PROPOSAL IS TO USE REMAINING PUBLIC FINANCE, UM, UH, CAPACITY, UH, FROM THE BONDS THAT WOULD BE ISSUED BY THE FINANCE AUTHORITY TO HELP FUND THAT OPEN SPACE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A FEW ALTERNATIVE TOOLS THAT MIGHT WIND UP SAVING EVERYONE SOME MONEY, UH, WORKING WITH THE OHIO WATER DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME LOAN PRODUCTS.
UM, WE'RE IN THE INVESTIGATIVE STAGE FOR THOSE.
IF IT ENDS UP SAVING THE MONEY, UM, AND NOT, UH, CREATING ADDITIONAL LIABILITIES FOR THE CITY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE PURSUED.
UM, OR WE MIGHT DEFAULT JUST GOING BACK TO THE REGULAR BOND ISSUANCE BY THE FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS WITH THE OTHER BLOCKS.
UM, THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA TAX ABATEMENT, UH, THAT WILL APPLY FOR 15 YEARS TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUMS HERE, IT WILL ALSO APPLY TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUMS. HOWEVER, WITH RESPECT TO THOSE CONDOS, ALL OF THE ABATED TAXES WOULD BE CHARGED BACK TO THE OWNERS.
THAT MONEY WOULD BE USED TO FINANCE THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO EFFECTIVE TAX ABATEMENT TO THE CONDO OWNERS.
UM, WE'LL ALSO HAVE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING, UH, LIKE WE HAVE IN OTHER BRIDGE STREET AREAS IN BRIDGE PARK, ALL SUBJECT TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND, UH, THIS AREA WOULD BE UNDER THE BRIDGE PARK COMMUNITY AUTHORITY.
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IS TO EXPAND THE BRIDGE PARK COMMUNITY AUTHORITY TO COVER THIS BLOCK.UM, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THIS BEFORE.
UM, THE TIFF WILL RUN FOR A 30 YEAR TIME PERIOD.
UH, THAT IS THE SAME FOR ALL THE OTHER BLOCKS.
UM, THOSE, UH, UH, THE NCA CHARGES AND THE SERVICE PAYMENTS OVER THE 30 YEARS WOULD BE PLEDGED THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE BONDS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE BONDS ISSUED BY THE FINANCE AUTHORITY AND NOT THE CITY, NO CITY CREDIT IMPLICATED HERE.
UM, AND IF THE SERVICE PAYMENTS AND NCA CHARGES ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TO PAY THAT DEBT SERVICE, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE BLOCK WOULD HAVE TO CHIP IN THE EXTRA TO COVER THE BOND DEBT SERVICE FOR THE FINANCE AUTHORITY.
UM, THE AGREEMENT HAS, UH, A, A DETAILED WHAT IS CALLED A WATERFALL THAT DESCRIBES HOW THOSE SERVICE PAYMENTS AND NCA REVENUES ARE TO BE APPLIED.
IT'S BASICALLY TO DEBT SERVICE FIRST, AND THEN AT THE VERY END OF THE WATERFALL SHOULD THERE BE ANY EXCESS AFTER DEBT SERVICE, THE REMAINDER WOULD GO TO THE CITY.
UM, NOT GONNA READ THIS WHOLE LIST, BUT AS WITH OTHER BLOCKS, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF DILIGENCE THAT FOLKS LIKE ME AND OTHER CITY STAFF WILL GO OVER TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS LINED UP AND READY TO GO FOR THE BLOCK.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO HAVING, UM, ADDITIONAL BENEFIT WITHIN BRIDGE PARK AND THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL BENEFITS FOR THE CITY.
SO THE CITY AS A WHOLE SEE SOME UPSIDE.
UM, UH, THE BIG HEADLINE HERE IS THE, UH, THE OFFICE AND THE OFFICE USER ALMOST $600,000 OF PROJECTED INCOME TAX RECEIPTS PER YEAR.
AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, THE BOTTOM LINE TIFF, REVENUES AFTER DEBT SERVICE WOULD GO TO THE CITY.
UH, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY PROJECTED TO TOTAL ALMOST $17 MILLION.
A LOT OF THOSE ARE A LONG TIME FROM NOW, BUT 30 YEARS FROM NOW, THE CITY WOULD ENJOY SOME EXCESS MONEY.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? VERY GOOD.
PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.
I'M LIVE AT 32 80 LILY MAR COURT.
SO I'M GLAD THIS IS A FIRST READING AND THAT WE CAN, UH, PUT SOME IDEAS INTO THIS.
AND SO AS I'VE READ THROUGH THE PACKET, UM, THAT WAS ON THE WEBSITE, SO I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS JUST, UH, IN, IN SUMMARY, THIS, THIS IS AN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THIS WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT, THAT WE'RE JUST SETTING THE STAGE HERE ON THE FRONT END.
UM, AND I SAW, GLAD TO SEE THE SLIDE THAT ASSURES THAT THIS PROJECT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL THE TRADITIONAL STEPS AND THROUGH ALL THE STEPS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
UH, THE ONE SLIDE THAT REFERENCED 7.1 AND 7.2, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES IN OPEN SPACE.
AND I GUESS I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK THIS, AND IN THE SPIRIT OF MAKING THE MOST PEOPLE HAPPY WITH THINGS THIS PARCEL TO THIS BLOCK, J UH, I WAS AT A MEETING FOR THE BLOCK Y, WHICH WOULD BE SOUTH OF THIS.
AND AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS A CONCEPT WAS PRESENTED, JUST A CONCEPT OF A BRIDGE, A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT MIGHT CONNECT ROUGHLY THESE TWO PARCELS, THIS Y AND THIS J AND BOY, THAT WOULD BE NEAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FALLS UNDER ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS OR COMMUNITY FACILITIES, BUT A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE TO HELP THE CITIZENS.
UH, AND I SAY ALL THIS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS FOR THE BLOCK Y MEETING, AND THERE WAS A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS FROM MY MARTIN ROAD CORRIDOR AND FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE AT DUBLIN, AND THAT GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED AND THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TIE TOGETHER SOME DOTS THAT, UM, MAYBE WITH SOME INGENUITY IN PLANNING SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE DONE.
I WILL SAY I RESPECT THE, UH, REMARK.
I'VE ALSO HAVE HEARD THAT THE CITY'S POSITION IS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD INTERACT WITH THE STREETS AND A SMALL STREET LIKE MOONEY STREET OR BANKER STREET.
SURE, THAT'S OKAY, BUT STATE ROUTE 1 61 AND IT'S FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC AND, UH, THE, THE RATE OF WHICH PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE BIG TRAFFIC CIRCLE, UH, MAKES IT HARROWING AS A PEDESTRIAN TO GET ACROSS THERE.
SO IF THERE REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE,
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THE TALK WAS ABOUT INCORPORATING THE GRADE AND THE RAMP, AND ESSENTIALLY FROM THE CURRENT WENDY'S RESTAURANT, THAT THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE AN EASY ARC UP AND OVER.SO I JUST SHARED IT AS AN IDEA OF MAYBE THIS CAN ALL BE THREADED TOGETHER AS, UM, BLOCKS J AND Y COME TOGETHER IN TIME.
I JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, THERE IS NO PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS 1 61 THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO THOSE WOULD, IF AND WHEN THOSE WOULD BECOME A CONVERSATION, THAT WOULD BE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE, UH, WE WILL CLOSE IT OFF TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
ANYONE LIKE TO LEAD US OFF? NOPE.
YOU SAT THROUGH THAT FOR THAT, HUH?
WELL, I, UH, HEARING, HEARING NOTHING FURTHER, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS AGAIN ON APRIL 21ST, SO, UM, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT TIME AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
ALRIGHT, FRUITFUL INTRODUCTION, PUBLIC
[Resolution 23-25]
HEARING VOTE RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION 23 DASH 25, ACCEPTING THE LOWEST AND BEST BID FOR THE ANNUAL SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE FROM BRIAN GABLE THIS EVENING.
MEMBERS OF COUNSEL STAFF CONDUCTED A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS FOR THE ANNUAL SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE PROGRAM 2025, WHICH CONSISTS OF REPLACING CONCRETE SIDEWALK IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY.
THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES FOR SIDEWALK REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND IS FUNDED FROM THE 2025 THROUGH 2029 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $275,000 FOR THE ANNUAL SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
REGARDING TREES, UH, EACH SITE IS UNIQUE AND REVIEWED BY ENGINEERING AND FORESTRY STAFF FOR TREE CONFLICTS, WHICH INVOLVES ANALYZING ACTUAL ROOT IMPACTS PRIOR TO ANY CUTTING.
STAFF COMMUNICATES IMPACTS TO THE RESIDENTS WHERE THE TREE IS LOCATED FOR TREES THAT MAY REQUIRE REMOVAL.
STAFF IS OFFERING SIDEWALK MEANDERING TO THE AFFECTED OWNERS.
SHOULD, SHOULD THE OWNER OR OWNERS DECIDE, UH, NOT DESIRE MEANDERING.
SOME TESTING CAN BE DONE BY STAFF PRIOR TO REMOVING TREES AFTER THE AFFECTED ROOTS HAVE BEEN TRIMMED.
AS ALWAYS, OUR GOAL IS TO PRESERVE TREES WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
IN 20 24 11, TREES REQUIRED REMOVAL WHERE IN 2023, ONLY FOUR STREET TREES REQUIRED REMOVAL DURING THE PROGRAM IN 20 21, 3, SIDEWALK MEANDERINGS OCCURRED IN 22 THROUGH 24, NO MEANDERINGS WERE ABLE TO BE PERFORMED DUE TO SITE SPECIFIC CONSTRAINTS.
THE CITY ALSO UTILIZES SIDEWALK SHAVING AND NOW LEVELING AS MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES PRIOR TO RECOMMENDING REPLACEMENT WITHIN THIS PROGRAM, THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR THE PROGRAM IS $315,000.
ON FEBRUARY, 2026 20, UH, 20 25, 9 BIDS WERE RECEIVED IN PUBLICLY OPENED BY ENGINEERING STAFF.
COBURN'S CONCRETE, LLC SUBMITTED THE LOWEST AND BEST BID OF $272,519 AND 40 CENTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNCIL APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 23 DASH 25, ACCEPTING AS LOWEST AND BEST THE BID OF COBURN'S CONCRETE LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $272,519 AND 40 CENTS FOR THIS PROGRAM.
I'D BE GLAD TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS DISCUSSION.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. KEELER? YES.
[Resolution 24-25]
RESOLUTION 24 DASH 25 ACCEPTING THE LOWEST AND BEST BID FOR THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM? 2025 PHASE ONE.AND WE WILL CONTINUE WITH BRIAN GABLE WITH THE STAFF REPORT.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL STAFF CONDUCTED A COMPETITIVE BID FOR THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM 2025, PHASE ONE, WHICH CONSISTS OF REPLACING DETERIORATED CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER STREET-BASED STABILIZATION, MILLION OF DETERIORATED PAVEMENT, SURFACES, PLACEMENT OF NEW ASPHALT PAVEMENT, AND OTHER ASSOCIATED STREET MAINTENANCE WORK.
THIS WILL MAINTAIN THE AVERAGE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OF OUR ROADWAY NETWORK AT 89.5 WITH AN OVERALL GOAL OF 75, WHICH IS A GOOD CONDITION.
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THE 2025 THROUGH 2029 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,500,000 FROM THE ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, 654,000 FROM THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, AND 51,000 FROM THE MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR A COMBINED TOTAL FUNDING OF $6,205,000.THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR PHASE ONE OF THE 2025 PROGRAM IS $3,105,000.
ON MARCH 11TH, 2025, FOUR BIDS WERE RECEIVED AND PUBLICLY OPEN.
THE SHELLEY COMPANY SUBMITTED THE LOWEST AND BEST BID OF $2,547,636 AND 92 CENTS.
CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO COMMENCE IN MAY AND BE COMPLETE BY OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THIS, OF THIS RESOLUTION, ACCEPTING AS LOWEST AND BEST THE BID OF THE SHELLY COMPANY AND THE AMOUNT OF $2,547,636 AND 92 CENTS FOR PHASE ONE OF THE 2025 PROGRAM.
I'LL DO MY BEST TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION REGARDING, YOU SAID WORK WILL START IN MAY ON THOSE, ON THIS PHASE ONE, DOES THAT MEAN ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS START IN MAY OR SOME LOCATIONS START IN MAY? GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, THE CONTRACTOR WILL START IN A FEW SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
USUALLY THEY START WITH ONE WITH THE FIRST UH, STEP, AND THEN THEY MOVE TO THE SECOND STREET WITH THE NEXT STEP AND BEGIN THEIR NEXT PHASE OF WORK ON THE FIRST THREE.
SO, AND HOW DO YOU NOTIFY, HOW IS THE PUBLIC NOTIFIED OF WHAT PROJECTS YOU'RE WORKING ON THEN? SO WE, WE DO A VARIETY OF NOTIFICATIONS WITH THIS PROGRAM.
UM, WE SEND A CONSTRUCTION FLYER TO ALL ADJACENT RESIDENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT.
UM, THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED AND ASSEMBLED, UH, IN OUR OFFICE.
UM, SECOND, WE USE, UH, SANDWICH BOARDS, WHICH ARE, ARE KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT PLANNING USES TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.
UH, WE PUT THOSE ON THE ENTRYWAY TO THE STREETS.
AND THEN FURTHERMORE, WE USE, UH, DOOR HANGERS AS WE GET CLOSE AND KIND OF CASE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN.
UM, AND THEN WHEN CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, THE CONTRACTOR WILL ALSO NOTIFY RESIDENTS IF THEIR DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO AT MINIMUM OF 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
UH, WE STRIVE FOR MORE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
MY, MY MAIN QUESTION PROBABLY REFERS RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN LIKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
SO YOU'RE GONNA USE THOSE SAME METHODS WITH THE RESIDENTS ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE AS WELL? THE INITIAL MAILING WILL BE VERY SIMILAR, YES.
UH, IT'S GONNA CASE MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE, BUT THAT, UM, RIVERSIDE DRIVE, UH, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THIS PROGRAM WHERE IT'S DOING A LOT OF AGGRESSIVE, UH, REPAIRS AND IT'S NOT DOING A FULL OUT RESURFACING.
SO YOU'LL, YOU'RE, YOU'LL HAVE PERIODIC LANE CLOSURES, BUT THEY'LL ALWAYS BE A LANE OPEN AND YOU'LL CORRECT SWITCH TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE LANES? CORRECT.
IS THERE ANY WAY, UM, IS THAT GONNA BE IN OUR LIKE DUBLIN DRIVE EMAIL OR I'M JUST WONDERING HOW I CAN LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW AHEAD OF TIME? YEAH, THERE'S A PROJECT SPECIFIC WEBSITE THAT'LL BE ON THAT INITIAL MAILER, UM, THAT, THAT RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, GET TO.
UM, IT'S FREQUENTLY, WELL, FREQUENTLY IT'S EVERY WEEK.
UH, AS WELL AS THAT, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACTS DO GET UPDATED WITH THAT MAILER.
UM, AND FURTHERMORE FOR RIVERSIDE DRIVE, IT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITY ROUTES.
SO, UM, THERE ARE RESTRICTED HOURS FOR THE CONTRACT TO WORK DURING THOSE, SO THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WORK DURING, UH, HIGHER VOLUME.
AND YOU'RE GONNA DO THE ELECTRIC, LIKE THE BOARDS OR ANYTHING MESSAGE BOARD? THE, THE SIGN BOARDS BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF COMMUTER TRAFFIC.
LIKE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT GETTING NOTICE, THEY'RE PROBABLY CHECKING THINGS.
YEAH, RIVERSIDE DRIVE WOULD DEFINITELY BE ONE WHERE WE WOULD USE THE, UH, PCSS AS WELL.
AND IN, IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT EMAIL, THE INFORMATION WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THE EMAIL THAT GOES OUT ROUTINELY TO HOA LEADERSHIP.
I WAS REALLY SURPRISED WHEN I SAW THE MAP THAT IT WASN'T MORE FOR THE MONEY.
SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THINGS COST MORE, ALTHOUGH IT DID COME IN UNDER BUDGET.
I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, BRIAN, AS WE THINK ABOUT BUDGETING GOING INTO THE FUTURE, UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, HOW WOULD YOU SAY WE HAVE TWO MILES OF ROAD WE'RE DOING HERE, OR, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT OF REPAIR, UH, DISTANCE FOR $7 MILLION AND AND I ONLY ASK THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UM, LIABILITIES ALWAYS FOR ANY MUNICIPALITY IS TRYING TO KEEP THEIR ROADWAYS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT, UM,
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I, THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD, WE'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO KEEP BUMPING UP THE NUMBER IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THIS SORT OF THING? SO IN 2025, THE STREET MAINTENANCE BUDGET WAS REDUCED BY, UH, APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.SO, UM, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, IS IT TWO AND A HALF MILLION? UM, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO, UH, AS YOU REFERENCED IN THE MAP, UH, YOU CAN TELL SOME OF THE STREETS IS A SMALLER OVERALL PROGRAM.
I'LL SAY THE PROGRAM WILL ALSO VARY BASED ON, UH, THE DEPTH OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, SUMMIT VIEW IS GETTING A, UH, COLD IN PLACE RECYCLING, UH, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE, UM, AGGRESSIVE TREATMENT TO DEAL WITH, UH, ROAD, UH, BASE STABILIZATION AS WELL.
SO THERE'S SOME MONEY TIED TO THAT KIND OF WORK, UM, THAT THEN FURTHER SINKS MORE MONEY INTO THAT ONE PARTICULAR AREA.
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S REQUESTED IS VERY MUCH DRIVEN BY OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
SO BOB TAYLOR RUNS A PROGRAM WHERE ALL OF OUR PAVEMENTS ARE INSPECTED EACH YEAR, AND THE PAVEMENT CONDITION RATING IS DETERMINED CITYWIDE.
SO ONCE OUR PAVEMENT CONDITIONS HAVE EXCEEDED THE AVERAGE AND ARE AT THE GOAL, THEN WE WILL TEND TO BACK OFF A LITTLE BIT.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ROAD LIKE RIVERSIDE DRIVE, THAT ALSO IMPACTS THE BUDGET THAT'S REQUESTED EACH YEAR.
IT SEEMS SO IT'S REVIEWED EVERY YEAR AND DETERMINED WHAT'S, WHAT'S NECESSARY TO KEEP, UM, OUR STREETS TO A HIGH QUALITY AND THE GOAL? YEAH, AND I ONLY ASKED IT AND I, I WON'T KEEP YOU, I ONLY ASKED IT BECAUSE I KNOW SO MANY CITIES STRUGGLE WITH TRYING TO KEEP UP, BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE DO OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT AND THE FACT THAT WE KEEP IT IN GOOD CONDITION, UH, IN, IN THE BEST CONDITION POSSIBLE, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT SPENDING ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY OR GETTING INTO REALLY HOLES ABOUT, UH, FINANCING.
I I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION.
DOES THAT PROJECT WEBSITE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING YOU'LL SEND OUT OR WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS, UM, TELL YOU THE DETAILS OF EACH PROJECT.
LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT SOME OF YOU IS A GREATER EXTENT OF WORK.
IS THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AVAILABLE OR IS IT PURELY JUST THE LOCATION? UH, IT'LL ADJUST WEEK TO WEEK.
UM, THE MORE RESIDENTIAL STREETS ARE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS STREET BEGINNING THIS TIME OR UPCOMING ONES.
UM, YEAH, MORE, UM, STREETS THAT ARE MORE IMPACTED, UH, LIKE SOME OF YOU WILL PROBABLY BE DURING OUR PROCESS.
UM, YOU WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THERE AS TO WHAT'LL BE GOING ON, WHAT THE EXPECTED HOURS ARE, UM, HOW TO GET AROUND, IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF, UH, PLANNED DIVERSIONS.
UM, MOST OF THAT SORT OF WORK WE USUALLY PLAN AT NIGHT.
IF WE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE ROAD OR OTHERWISE, BUT YEAH.
UM, AND THAT IS LOCATED ON THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU SEARCH CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S A MAIN CONSTRUCTION PAGE AND ONE OF THE TOP THREE BUTTONS, UH, IS THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
UH, I, I DID SEE AN EMAIL GO OUT TO THE RESIDENT ON MILL MICHAEL CORDEM.
I'M ASSUMING IT'LL BE DONE EXTRA TO CONTRACT TO, TO THESE NUMBERS.
SO THAT WILL BE IN ADDITION IN THIS CYCLE, CORRECT? YEAH.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHICH PHASE IT WOULD BE WITHIN, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, TAKING CARE OF THAT ONE, UH, WITH THE PROGRAM OVERALL.
UH, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MAYOR ANN ROSE GROOMS? YES.
[Resolution 25-25]
25 DASH 25 ACCEPTING THE LOWEST AND BEST BID FOR THE STREET MAINTENANCE PRE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM? 2025.HOW LONG DID YOU SIT IN OUR STAFF REPORT? WELL, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
I'D LIKE TO GET THE BANG FROM MY BUCK.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL STAFF CONDUCTED A COMPETITIVE BID FOR THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM 2025 PHASE TWO, WHICH, UH, CONSISTS SIMILAR TO PHASE ONE.
UH, CONSISTS OF VARIETY OF STREET MAINTENANCE WORK, UH, WITHIN THE CITY.
THIS PROGRAM IS FUNDED FROM THE 2025 THROUGH 2029 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.
AND AS REFERENCED DURING PHASE ONE RESOLUTION FOR COMBINED FUNDING OF $6,205,000, THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR PHASE TWO OF THE 2025 PROGRAM IS $3,950,000.
ON MARCH 19TH, 2025, FOUR BIDS WERE RECEIVED IN PUBLICLY OPENED STRAWS ARE PAVING COMPANY INC.
SUBMITTED THE LOWEST AND BEST BID OF $3,205,282 AND 74 CENTS.
STAFF HAS SELECTED TO PERFORM BOTH ALTERNATES.
AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT, CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO COMMENCE IN MAY AND BE COMPLETE BY THE OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
THE TOTAL OF BOTH LOW BIDS RECEIVED IS UNDER THE OVERALL BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THE 2025 STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM BY $452,000, 8,450 $2,080
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AND 34 CENTS.UH, BUT IT IS $45,048, UH, AND 66 CENTS UNDER THE BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
OVERALL, STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNSEL APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION, ACCEPTING AS LOWEST AND BEST THE BID OF STRAWS OR PAVING COMPANY, INC.
IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,205,282 AND 74 CENTS FOR PHASE TWO OF THE 2025 PROGRAM.
AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT LIKE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL VICE MAYOR LUDO? YES.
[Resolution 26-25]
RESOLUTION 26 DASH 25 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A LOCAL LET PROJECT MAN AGREEMENT WITH THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE MUIRFIELD DRIVE AT SALES MILL DRIVE, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS.AND WE WILL GET OUR STAFF REPORT FROM TINA.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER INTO A LOCAL LET PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE MURFIELD DRIVE AT SELL MILL DRIVE, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.
THE CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE A HIGH INTENSITY ACTIVATED CROSSWALK OR HAWK FUNNY ACRONYM.
THE NEW CURB RAMPS STREETLIGHTS PAVEMENT MARKINGS, NEW SIDEWALK CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PATH ALONG MURFIELD DRIVE AND THE SCOTTISH CORNERS DRIVEWAY.
AND THE CITY WORKED WITH THE DUBLIN CITY SCHOOLS AND APPLIED FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL FUNDING IN 2023.
UM, THE CITY WAS FORTUNATE TO BE AWARDED A, UH, A GRANT OF UP TO $500,000 THROUGH THIS, UH, FEDERAL SAFETY FUNDS AND SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAMS. IT'S EXPECTED TO COVER THE CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION PHASES OF THE PROJECT, CURRENTLY ESTIMATED AT A APPROXIMATELY 400,000.
AND THE CITY HAS ALSO PROGRAMMED FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT IN THE 2025 TO 2029 CIP.
SO ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, THE CITY WILL REPORT BACK THE ACTUAL COST TO O DDOT AND THEN BE REIMBURSED FOR THAT FUNDING.
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALKS CURVE MODIFICATION AND PAYMENT MARKING IS SCHEDULED TO BE CONSTRUCTED THIS SUMMER.
AND THE LEAD TIME FOR THE HAWK MATERIALS IS ESTIMATED TO TAKE SIX TO 12 MONTHS, WHICH RESULTS IN A FINAL PROJECT COMPLETION EXPECTED IN SPRING OF 2026.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THIS, UM, MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE, UM, OPERATIONS WILL BE LIKE.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF 26, RESOLUTION 26 25, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A LOCAL LIT PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE MURFIELD DRIVE AT SELLS MILL DRIVE, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION.
I JUST HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.
WILL THIS SIGNAL, UM, FOR PEDESTRIANS BE ACTIVE 24 7 365? YES.
AND DO YOU KNOW IF THE SCHOOLS INTEND TO CONTINUE HAVING THE CROSSING GUARDS THERE WITH THE CROSSWALK ENHANCED? THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY CURRENT UNDERSTANDING.
IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULE MS. FOX? YES.
[Resolution 27-25]
27 DASH 25 ACCEPTING THE LOWEST AND BEST BID FOR THE 2025 STREETLIGHT AND BRIDGE RAIL PAINTING? I DO.OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING WILL BE BY BOB TAYLOR.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, STAFF CONDUCTED A COMPETITIVE BID FOR THE 2025 STREETLIGHT AND BRIDGE RAIL PAINTING PROJECT, WHICH PROVIDES FOR APPROXIMATELY 500 VARIOUS, UM, LIGHT POLES, STREETLIGHT POLES, AS WELL AS 24 METAL BRIDGE RAILINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, THE 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROVIDES $200,000 FOR THIS WORK.
ON MARCH 26TH, UH, FIVE BIDS WERE RECEIVED AND PUBLICLY OPENED MARTIN PAINTING AND CODING.
UH, COMPANY SUBMITTED THE LOWEST AND BEST BID OF $172,392 AND 85 CENTS, WHICH IS 13.8% UNDER THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE OF 200,000.
CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN AS EARLY AS MAY AND BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF OCTOBER, 2025.
STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNSEL, APPROVE RESOLUTION 27 DASH 25, ACCEPTING THE LOWEST AND BEST BID OF MARTIN PAINTING AND CODING COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $172,392 AND 85 CENTS FOR THIS PROJECT OR
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FOR THIS PROJECT.AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. RINER? YES.
[Muirfield Art in Public Places Project]
US TO THE OTHER BUSINESS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE MEREFIELD ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, DESIGN, PROJECT DESIGN.AND THE STAFF REPORT WILL BE FROM MATT EARMAN AND WE ALSO HAVE THE DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL.
AND I BELIEVE THE ARTIST IS PRESENT WITH US AS WELL THIS EVENING.
GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
UM, AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH, 2024 COUNCIL MEETING, UH, RESOLUTION 56 24 WAS APPROVED AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH ARTIST IVAN DE PENA FOR THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND INSTALLATION OF THE MUIRFIELD ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PROJECT LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST PARCEL OF MUIRFIELD DRIVE IN WHITTINGHAM DRIVE.
THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT DESIGN INCLUDED A PRECAST CONCRETE, UH, CONCRETE STRUCTURE AT A HEIGHT OF 14 TO 16 FEET, A BUDGET OF $175,000, AND A PROJECT COMPLETION DATE OF MARCH OF 2026.
THE COMPLETION DATE IS NOTEWORTHY AS THE STATE OF OHIO FACILITIES CONSTRUCTION COMMISSION.
REIMBURSABLE GRANT OF $175,000 DOES ACTUALLY EXPIRE ON JUNE 30TH, 2026.
ADDITIONALLY, THE TIMING WOULD ALLOW THE NEW ART PIECE TO BE COMPLETED FOR THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT THAT YEAR.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER RENDERING OF THE ART PIECE VIEWED FROM THE ROADWAY OF MUIRFIELD DRIVE.
SINCE THE EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT, THE ARTIST HAS ADVANCED DESIGN AND MATERIAL RESEARCH, UM, TRANSPORTATION FABRICATION, UM, IN ORDER TO BEST DELIVER THE PROJECT AS IT WAS PROPOSED.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE ENGINEERING MATERIALS OF THE TWO PREFERRED OR THE TWO PRO, UM, MATERIALS TO BE CONSIDERED.
ONE BEING I'LL, I'LL USE THE WORD FIBERGLASS, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.
I'LL GET INTO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
AND THEN THE PRECAST CONCRETE, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE, ARE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, SOME OF WHICH ARE MORE, UM, UH, ST STURDINESS THAN THAN THE OTHER.
UH, AESTHETICALLY, UH, I AM UNDERSTANDING THAT BOTH WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER, UH, WITH A FEW MINOR, MINOR DIFFERENCES.
UM, WE CAN GET INTO THAT LATER.
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIBERGLASS WOULD BE, UM, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A RENDERING.
IT'S A STRUCTURAL STEEL INTERIOR FRAMING WITH FOAM CORE, AND THEN THE GLASS FIBER REINFORCED CONCRETE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT PRODUCT, UH, TO CREATE THE STRUCTURE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CASTSTONE OR THE PRECAST CONCRETE.
IT IS A SOLID, UH, SOLID CONCRETE PIECE, UM, IN PIECES THAT WOULD BE, UH, ASSEMBLED ON SITE.
UM, AND AGAIN, MORE DETAILS OF THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
I'M SURE THAT, UH, IVAN CAN ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL.
THIS, I WILL SAY THAT THIS OPTION, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL AND THE ARTIST IS THE PREFERRED OPTION.
UM, WITH THAT OPTION, HOWEVER, UM, COMES FROM DIFFERENT, UH, SCENARIOS THAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING AND CONSIDERING.
SO THE UPDATED MATERIAL AND HEIGHT AND COST OPTIONS.
OPTION NUMBER ONE WOULD BE THE FIBERGLASS OPTION AT 14 FEET THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FALL WITHIN BUDGET.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE COMPLETED AFTER THE JUNE 30TH DEADLINE FOR THE STATE GRANT AND AFTER THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT OF THE 2026.
OPTION TWO IS A 16 FOOT FIBERGLASS, UM, RENDER OR, UM, VERSION OF THAT WITH A HIGHER PRICE TAG.
I THINK BECAUSE OF THE MORE, UM, RE MORE REQUIREMENTS FOR TRANSPORTATION, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME IN PIECES RATHER THAN ALL IN ONE, ONE VEHICLE.
AND THEN OPTION THREE, THE PRECAST CONCRETE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AT 16 FEET, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT AND BEFORE THE STATE GRANT DEADLINE.
AND THAT COMES WITH THE PRICE TAG OF $250,000.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GONNA SHOW VERY WELL ON THE SCREEN, BUT YOU'LL, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES IN HEIGHT, UH, FROM THE 14 FOOT RENDERING TO THE 16 FOOT RENDERING.
UM, THERE'S NOT A, A HUGE DIFFERENCE THERE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE STANDPOINT OF WHEN YOU'RE FAR AWAY FROM IT.
I'M SURE WHEN YOU'RE UP CLOSER TO IT, IT DOES LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT, BUT IT DOES, UM, REFLECT A LITTLE BIT OF THE DIFFERENCE THERE IN THAT RENDERING.
SO WITH THAT, THE PRECAST CONCRETE REMAINS THE PREFERRED MATERIAL OPTION AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ARTIST.
AND THE DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL STAFF IS SEEKING CITY COUNCIL'S
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DIRECTION ON THE MATERIAL HEIGHT, UH, MATERIAL AND HEIGHT, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE COMPLETION TIMEFRAMES AND THE ASSOCIATED COSTS WITH THAT.SO I HOPE WE'LL TURN THAT OVER TO CITY COUNCIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, IVAN DE PENA IS HERE FROM IVAN OR FROM DE PENA STUDIOS, AND AVA MORGAN'S HERE FROM DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL.
WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT.
DO THEY HAVE A CONTINUING PRESENTATION OR THEY'RE JUST GOING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? I HAVE SOME REMARKS TO SHARE ON BEHALF OF DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL.
SO THANKS MATT FOR THE PRESENTATION AND GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, DAVID'S, SORRY HE COULDN'T JOIN US TONIGHT.
UM, BUT I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE ARTIST IVAN DE PENA WITH US TO SHARE HIS UPDATE.
UM, HE FLEW IN THIS AFTERNOON FROM CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA FOR THIS MEETING, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM.
UM, IVAN RECEIVED A MASTER'S DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE FROM HARVARD UNIVERSITY'S GRADUATE SCHOOL OF DESIGN.
HE IS AN AWARD-WINNING ARTIST WITH ARTWORK COMMISSIONED NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.
SO ON BEHALF OF DUBLIN ART COUNCIL'S BOARD AND STAFF AND DUBLIN'S PUBLIC ART BOARD, WE ARE HONORED TO WORK WITH AN ARTIST OF THIS CALIBER.
AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT ADDING THIS ARTWORK TO DUBLIN'S COLLECTION.
SINCE HIS CONCEPT WAS SELECTED IN JUNE OF 24, IVAN HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH FABRICATORS AND SUPPLIERS TO RESEARCH THE BEST OPTION FOR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION.
THE SIX MONTH DELAY BETWEEN THE SELECTION OF THE CONCEPT AND THE SIGNING OF THE CONTRACT IN DECEMBER OF 24, RESULTED IN CHANGES IN PRICE OF MATERIALS AND AVAILABILITY OF FABRICATORS.
SO DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE ARTIST'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRECAST OPTION, AS IT WILL PROVIDE THE MOST DURABLE, RESILIENT, AND RELIABLE FABRICATION METHOD.
IT WILL HAVE THE STRONGEST VISUAL APPEAL AND IMPACT AT A HEIGHT OF 16 FEET WITH A SOLID AND MONOLITHIC FEEL.
AND IT WILL BE ON TIME FOR THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE TOURNAMENT AND WITHIN THE STATE GRANT REQUIREMENT.
SO GIVEN THE INFORMATION AND RESEARCH PROVIDED BY THE ARTIST, DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL PROPOSES THE CITY, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE ARTISTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRECAST OPTION, THE 75,000 BEING ALLOCATED FOR ART AND PUBLIC PLACES IN 2025 FROM THE BED TAX WILL ALLOW FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT DELIVERED ON TIME.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE 175,000 WAS AN ARBITRARY BUDGET ASSIGNED TO THIS COMMISSION THROUGH THE EARMARK ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS PROVIDED BY THE STATE.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT THIS BUDGET IS INSUFFICIENT FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE AND SCOPE.
ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UM, IN 2020, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BUDGET FOR PUBLIC ART COMMISSIONS WAS 250,000 AS REPORTED BY AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS PUBLIC ART NETWORK, WHICH IS THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL NETWORK IN THE UNITED STATES DEDICATED TO ADVANCING PUBLIC ART PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS, UM, IN THE COUNTRY.
AND, UH, DEVLIN'S BUDGET FOR PERMANENT COMMISSIONS HAS BEEN 150,000 FOR OVER A DECADE.
SO IT COULD BE INCREASED TO CONTINUE TO ATTRACT PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER.
THE MEREFIELD ASSOCIATION HAS DONATED LAND TO THE CITY FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THE FUNDS THE CITY HAS PUT FORTH FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE REIMBURSED BY THE STATE GRANT.
SWING IS OF SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANCE AS IT CELEBRATES THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MEREFIELD TOURNAMENT IN 26, WHERE THE ARTWORK WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ATTENDEES, RESIDENTS, AND BROADCAST VISIBILITY ON A GLOBAL STAGE.
DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ARTIST AND PROPOSES THE CITY, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT, PROVIDES ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ALLOW FOR THE PRECAST OPTION, WHICH WE FIND IS THE BEST POSSIBLE ARTWORK DELIVERED ON TIME.
SO I WANTED TO, UH, TURN IT OVER TO IVAN TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
I KNOW WE'VE
BUT, UM, UH, JUST THE INITIAL CONCEPT FOR THIS PROJECT WAS, IT WAS FOR IT TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL, UM, SORT OF EARTHWORK STRUCTURE THAT WAS, UM, INSPIRED VERY MUCH BY, UM, NICHOLAS'S GOLF SWING AND THE COMBINATION OF A BIRD WING AND MOVEMENT.
UM, AS WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED OVER AND WE'VE STUDIED LIKE ALL SORTS OF MATERIALS, WE'VE, UM, PUN INTENDED, TURNED OVER EVERY STONE, UM, IN OUR RESEARCH.
UH, AND I I FOUND THAT THE FIBERGLASS WAS A LITTLE BIT LIGHTWEIGHT.
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WAS SOMEBODY TO GO UP AND SORT OF KNOCK ON IT, IT FEELS HOLLOW AND, AND SOMEWHAT LESS SIGNIFICANT.UM, THEN THE PRECAST, THE PRECAST FEELS VERY EARTHEN.
UM, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF USING EVEN, YOU KNOW, A LOCAL AGGREGATE OR SOME KIND OF DISCOURSE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF MATERIALS THAT ACTUALLY COME FROM THE EARTH HERE IN DUBLIN.
UM, IN TERMS OF COMBINING THAT INTO THE AGGREGATE, WHICH WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT AS MUCH, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT COME BEARS TO MIND THAT IT'S, IT WANTS TO BE LOCAL, IT WANTS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL, AND IT WANTS TO BE, UH, A MONUMENTAL PIECE.
SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A, A LITTLE BIT OVER THE BUDGET THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO HAVE THAT, THAT THAT DISCUSSION.
WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? AND I UNDERSTAND, LINDSAY, WE HAVE ONE.
WE DID RECEIVE AN ONLINE COMMENT FROM DENISE APPLEGATE AT 9 4 6 CROSS COUNTRY DRIVE, COLUMBUS, OHIO, 4 3 2 3 5.
AS A DAC BOARD MEMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE CONTRACT AND ALLOW FOR MORE FUNDS TO REALIZE THE BEST POSSIBLE ARTWORK FOR THIS PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT LEGACY TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND WILL BRING INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO I BELIEVE IT IS CRITICAL TO MAKE IT AS CLOSE TO THE ARTIST'S VISION AS POSSIBLE.
THE ARTIST WHO WAS SELECTED AFTER A THOROUGH AND COMPETITIVE PROCESS HAS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE IN THE FIELD.
SO IT SEEMS VITAL TO ME THAT WE RESPECT HIS RECOMMENDATION OF MATERIALS TO BE USED IN OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT.
IT SEEMS THE COST INCREASES ARE SOMETHING TO BE EXPECTED IN EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE.
I HOPE ALL CAN TAKE THE LONG-TERM VIEW OF THE VALUE OF THIS INVESTMENT WE'LL BRING TO DUBLIN AND APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHERS? HEARING NONE, COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU THAT, THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO WEIGH ON.
SO I, UM, I, I KIND OF RULE OUT OPTION ONE 'CAUSE IT'S APPLES TO ORANGES, IT'S 14 FEET, THE OTHER 16, AND I CAN JUSTIFY $40,000 MORE FOR A SUBSTANTIAL PIECE OF ART THAT IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU ENVISIONED.
AND IF SOMEBODY WERE TO TOUCH IT AND FEEL IT, IT'S ROBUST AND, UM, SIGNIFICANT.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION THREE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ART MAINTENANCE IS RATHER EXPENSIVE, AND IF WE DO IT IN CONCRETE, WHAT DO YOU SEE THE LIFE OF THIS PARTICULAR SCULPTURE TO BE? ANY IDEA? I MEAN, IF, JUST THINKING ABOUT IT AT THE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE BRIDGES AND SORT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DRIVING OVER THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MADE WITH PRECAST.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S, THE LONGEVITY IS AT AT LEAST 50 TO A HUNDRED YEARS, REALLY.
THE GREEN ELEMENT SEEMS TO BE ELUSIVE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE GREEN STRIPE THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, SORT OUT, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A LIVING PLANT THING.
AND THEN I, I'M, I'M SURE WHERE WE ENDED UP, WHETHER THAT'S A PAINTED GREEN STRIPE OR IS THAT GONNA BE INSERTED, UM, ARTIFICIAL TURF, OR WHAT DID YOU FINALLY DECIDE ON THAT? THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION ACTUALLY.
WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT INITIALLY I, I REALLY WANTED IT TO BE A, UH, LIVE ORGANIC MATERIAL.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, HITTING THESE BUDGET SORT OF OBSTACLES, UH, IRRIGATION AND SORT OF GETTING THAT SORT OF RIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAINTAINING IT ON TOP OF THAT STARTED TO BECOME A, A LARGER DIALOGUE THAT WE FELT WAS PROBABLY GONNA HINDER THE, THE ACTUAL MATERIALITY THAT WE WANT.
UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING AND TALKING TO SEVERAL, UM, ARTIFICIAL MOSS CREATING COMPANIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE PROVIDING SOME REALLY, REALLY REALISTIC LOOKING MATERIAL.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GET THE, THE, THE ACTUAL MATERIAL.
BUT WE'VE, WE HAVE SAMPLES THAT WE WOULD RUN BY OBVIOUSLY ANYONE, EVERYONE HERE FOR, FOR APPROVAL.
UM, AGAIN, IDEALLY IT WOULD'VE BEEN REAL, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ORGANIC.
BUT, UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A REALISTIC, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE MAINTENANCE ON SOMETHING ORGANIC.
AND I HAVE A COMPANY THAT DEALS WITH ARTIFICIAL MOSSES AND THEY DO GREEN WALLS AND EVERYTHING, BUT SO I, I, I SUGGEST YOU, YOU MIGHT COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S MORE DURABLE THAT REQUIRES A LOT LESS MAINTENANCE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S AN ARTIFICIAL TURF STRIPE OR HOWEVER YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, OR IT'S A GREEN YEAH, PAINT.
BUT, UH, I AGREE NUMBER, UM, NUMBER THREE SOUNDS THE BEST, LIKE THE BEST OPTION FOR US.
YEAH, UV UVS OUR BIGGEST, UM, SORT OF ISSUE NOW WITH, WITH THE, THE GREEN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE WANT, WE HAVING SOMETHING, A GREEN WALL INSIDE IS WAY DIFFERENT THAN HAVING A, A GREEN
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WALL OUTSIDE.SO WE'RE STILL IN THE, IN THE RESEARCH PROCESS FOR THAT.
NO, I, I ALWAYS BELIEVE, AND I REMEMBER WHEN, UM, WE WERE DOING THE BRIDGE AND THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH MONEY, SO WE WOULD MAKE IT SHORTER.
AND I THINK WHAT A MISTAKE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IF WE'D MADE IT SHORTER.
SO I ALWAYS THINK THE ARTIST RECOMMENDATION IS THE BEST RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE YOU SEE IT.
AND, UM, AND I, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THE GREEN FEEL ORGANIC.
AND I'M SURE YOU'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
I THINK MAINTENANCE IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH PUBLIC ART, BUT, BUT I, I, I THINK THAT STRETCHING YOURSELF TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT GIVES A SENSE OF WHAT YOUR VISION IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT SHOULDN'T OVERRIDE NECESSARILY, UH, A CONCERN OF MAINTENANCE.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR SITTING THROUGH THIS EXTREMELY LONG MEETING.
UM, ACTUALLY WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE HAD TO SAY, ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD COMING INTO THIS.
UM, YOU, YOU ANSWERED EXACTLY, YOU, YOU TOLD ME THAT 150,000 IS, IS OUR TYPICAL, UM, INSTALLATION.
AND WITH THIS, I MEAN WE HAVE A GRANT THAT'S HOVERING THE 175,000.
SO REALLY OUT OF POCKET WE'RE ONLY PAYING THE 75,000.
AND AGAIN, IT'S THE BED TAX WE WOULD NORMALLY PAY AND WE WOULD NORMALLY PAY ONE 50.
SO I AM OKAY WITH THE 75 DIFFERENCE, UM, NOW THAT YOU TOLD ME THOSE FACTS.
SO IT WAS WORTH STAYING HERE ALL, ALL, ALL THE TIME.
'CAUSE BEFORE YOU, YOU HAD ME CLOSER TO THE OTHER END OF LET'S USE JUST THE GRANT MONEY.
UM, SO, AND THAT BEING SAID TOO, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STURDY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO CLIMB ON THIS THING.
I MEAN, IT'S THERE, THERE'S NO, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE IT AND WANNA WALK ON IT.
SO, UM, DURABILITY I THINK IS A GOOD THING.
AND YEAH, CONCRETE BRIDGES, AS YOU MENTIONED LAST OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AND THAT'S WITH PEOPLE DRIVING ON THEM.
SO THIS SHOULD LAST FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
SO I LONG ANSWER IS OPTION THREE.
WE CAN TELL THE NEIGHBORS IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY NOISE.
I'LL KEEP IT SHORT FOR ALL OF THE SAME REASONS.
I, I'M, I CAN SUPPORT OPTION THREE.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A GENERAL CONSENSUS.
UM, I, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE YOUR ASSURANCE NOW THAT THIS WILL BE DELIVERED ON TIME AND ON COST MOVING FORWARD BY THE NEXT MEMORIAL IN 20 DAYS.
WE WILL NOT, WE WILL NOT EXPECT ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS TO THIS CONTRACT.
WELL, IT SOUNDS, UM, LIKE THERE IS A CONSENSUS, SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND THE CONTRACT IN CHOOSING OPTION THREE OF PRECAST CONCRETE TO BE 16 FEET TALL.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. KEELER? YES.
[Memorial Tournament Temporary Signs]
THE NEXT ITEM ON OTHER BUSINESSES, THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT TEMPORARY SIGNS AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY ALLISON LEROY.UM, I WON'T GO OVER THROUGH, UM, THE WHOLE PRESENTATION THAT, UM, MR. SULLIVAN WENT THROUGH EARLIER.
UM, BUT WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNAGE.
UH, THE MAJOR ONE BEING OBVIOUSLY THE AC UH, BANNER THAT GOES UP.
WE'VE BEEN APPROVING THAT SINCE 2018.
AND AS THAT IT ALONG THE LINES FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THESE SIGNS DO GO UP ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT, THEY'LL START PUTTING 'EM UP AND THEY ARE VERY QUICK ABOUT TAKING 'EM DOWN THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS THERE.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED TEMPORARY SIGNS.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.
WHEN YOU HAVE A CHAMPION AS SCOTTY SCHEFFLER, YOU MIGHT AS WELL PUT HIM ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR TEMPORARY SIGNS FOR THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MS. CRAM? YES.
[Central Ohio Shared Micro-Mobility Update – Veo Introduction]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR MICRO MOBILITY UPDATE, VO INTRODUCTION.AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY JM RAYBURN, WHO IS ASLEEP, HEADED OUR WAY.
HE IS LIVE AND IN LIVING COLOR.
HE IS GOING TO SHARPEN THINGS UP HERE A BIT.
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RIGHT HERE.IT'S ALWAYS ON POINT AND STYLISH.
WELL, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE THIS EVENING.
IT'S ALMOST GOOD MORNING, BUT GO AHEAD,
SO I'M GONNA BE BRIEF BUT TO THE POINT WITH THIS PRESENTATION, THIS IS AN UPDATE ON OUR MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM.
AND SINCE, UH, WE LAST SPOKE, UH, BYRD HAS CEASED OPERATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY AS OF JANUARY.
UM, AND DURING THIS TIME, STAFF, UH, HAS PARTNERED WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES LED BY SEA OF COLUMBUS ON A SHARED MICRO MOBILITY, CENTRAL OHIO SHARED MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO TONIGHT WE HAVE VO HERE AS AN INTRODUCTION.
WE WANT TO GO OVER THE KEY TERMS AND THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.
I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT WE ARE WORKING CONCURRENTLY ON UPDATING CODE FOR MICRO MOBILITY, UH, DEVICES.
SO THAT WILL BE COMING FORTH AS WELL.
REAL QUICK OVERVIEW OF VO VO IS A WOMAN FOUNDED COMPANY.
THEIR MISSION IS TO REDUCE CAR DEPENDENCY AND CAR-FREE OPTIONS FOR OVERALL.
THEY LAUNCHED IN PURDUE UNIVERSITY IN 2017 AND TODAY THEY OPERATE IN MORE THAN 50 CITIES.
THE VO FLEET IS, HAS QUITE A VARIETY.
ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE COLORED DOTS THAT CORRESPOND TO DIFFERENT DEVICE TYPES.
SO THEY DO OFFER TRADITIONAL PEDAL BIKES AS WELL AS, UH, E-BIKES.
THOSE ARE SHOWN IN, UH, YELLOW GOLD ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
AND THEN SCOOTERS, THEY OFFER NOT ONLY STANDING SCOOTERS, WHICH I ARRIVED ON, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE SEATED SCOOTERS, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO THE VARIETY IS SOMETHING THAT IS, I THINK, GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE.
NOT TO MENTION, WE ARE GETTING A BIKE SHARE ON TOP OF A SCOOTER SHARE WITH THIS OPERATOR.
THINKING ABOUT THE KEY TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS LED THE NEGOTIATIONS IN THE TERMS WITH VO ON BEHALF OF THE REGION.
AND SO WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS PRIOR TO COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE AGREEMENT WITH VO AT THE, UH, THE NEXT MEETING.
THE REAL, THE THING I WANT TO, UM, REALLY EMPHASIZE IS THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE BUDGETED CIP MONEY FOR A BIKE SHARE PROGRAM TO THE AMOUNT OF $380,000 WITH ABOUT AN $80,000 PER YEAR SUBSIDY.
THIS OPERATOR IS NOT, THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR US.
UM, WE ACTUALLY WILL BE INVOLVED IN MODEST REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT WITH THIS COMPANY AND I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE QUICK KEY TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
FURTHERMORE, DUBLIN DOES NOT OWN ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT WHICH WE WOULD HAVE IN PREVIOUS, UH, UM, PROPOSALS.
SO WE DO NOT BEAR THE RISK AS WE HAVE IN OTHER PROPOSALS PREVIOUS TO THIS.
UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE ARE PROPOSING AN INITIAL LAUNCH DATE OF THE DOON FLEET ON APRIL 30TH, JUST IN TIME TO CELEBRATE BIKE MONTH.
SO TO HAVE A BIKE SHARE AND A SCOOTER SHARE IN TIME FOR THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CELEBRATE.
UM, AND THE FIRST PHASE WOULD LAST ABOUT 45 DAYS, SO FROM APRIL 30TH TO ABOUT JUNE 15TH.
UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL BE DONE WITH THE INITIAL LAUNCH PERIOD.
DURING THAT INITIAL LAUNCH PERIOD, WE WILL BE DOING AUDITS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE HAVE IN THE PAST DONE WITH BIRD.
UM, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE LAUNCH PERIOD WILL HAVE A CAB OF 50 DEVICES, WHICH AFTER THAT WILL BE EXPANDED TO 125.
I MENTIONED THE REVENUE SHARING.
AN EXCHANGE FOR PERMISSION TO OPERATE IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN VO PROPOSES TO COMPENSATE THE CITY WITH THE FOLLOWING PER DIE SCHEDULE, PER DEVICE FEE SCHEDULE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BIKES DO NOT CARRY A PER FEE ANNUALLY, BUT THE E SCOOTERS AND THE E-BIKES DO, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE E-BIKE, UH, THE CLASS TWO E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS BOTH CARRY A PER ANNUAL FEE.
THIS WILL BE PAID ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
SO LOOKING AT THE FIRST, UH, LAUNCH PERIOD QUARTER, WE ANTICIPATE CONSERVATIVELY, GIVEN THE BREAKDOWN, WE COULD RECEIVE ABOUT $675 IN DEVICE FEES FOR THE INITIAL LAUNCH PERIOD AND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR, ANOTHER $2,800 MORE OR LESS VO DOES PROPOSE TO LAUNCH WITH THE 40% SEATED VEHICLES AND 60% STANDING UPON, UH, THE INITIAL LAUNCH OF THEIR FLEET.
AND THEN THAT WILL EQUAL OUT TO ABOUT 50 50 ONCE THE PROGRAM HAS REACHED ITS CAPACITY TO USE, UH, ONE OF THEIR FLEETS.
IT DOES DEPEND IF YOU'RE USING AN E UH, TRADITIONAL PEDAL BIKE OR AN E-BIKE, IT'S THE COST THAT COULD BE 50 CENTS TO A DOLLAR TO UNLOCK.
AND THEN FOR THE TRADITIONAL BIKE, YOU HAVE A 30 MINUTE ALLOWANCE.
WHILE OTHERS HAVE A PER MINUTE
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FEE, WE AS THE CITY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO GAIN OR EARN 5 CENTS FOR EVERY TRIP THAT IS TAKEN AS PART OF THE REVENUE SHARING MODEL.AND THAT ONLY APPLIES, I SHOULD SAY, THAT APPLIES TO ALL THE VEHICLES OR DEVICES EXCEPT FOR THE TRADITIONAL PEDAL BIKE, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A PER TRIP FEE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
IF WE LOOK AT 2024 BIRD RIDERSHIP NUMBERS TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE COULD EARN, POTENTIALLY WE COULD BE IN THE BALLPARK OF ABOUT $385, $400, DEPENDING ON IF WE SEE THE SAME RIDERSHIP THAT WE SAW WITH BIRD, WHICH WAS 7,759 RIDES LAST YEAR.
WE ALSO WILL BE ABLE TO RECOUP OR EARN MULTI JURISDICTIONAL TRIP FEES DEPENDING ON WHICH JURISDICTION IT BEGINS IN.
SO YOU'LL SEE IF IT BEGINS IN DUBLIN, WE GET 3 CENTS.
IF IT ENDS IN DUBLIN, WE GET 2 CENTS.
ALL IN ALL, WE ESTIMATE THE POTENTIAL REVENUE THIS YEAR TO BE ABOUT $3,800.
THAT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON THOSE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL FEES, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE DATA TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT CAN MEAN.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ESTIMATE CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATED, UH, UH, NUMBER THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S WORTH KNOWING IS THAT THE AGREEMENT WILL LAST ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND WE WILL TILL ABOUT DECEMBER 31ST, 2029, WHICH IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE, THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, COLUMBUS IN PARTICULAR, UH, THAT ARE PART OF THE CENTRAL OHIO SHARED MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM.
THERE ARE PERFORMANCE REVIEWS AS PART OF THE CONTRACT, AND IF THEY DO NOT MEET EXPECTATIONS, VO HAS 90 DAYS TO RECTIFY THAT OR WE ASK THEM TO MOVE ON, WHICH JUST SAY THAT'S IN THE, THE CLAUSE.
NOT SAYING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THE OPERATIONAL PARAMETERS WILL BE SEAMLESS TO THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE WITH BIRD.
WE'LL STILL HAVE THE SAME, UH, RESTRICTIONS, WHETHER IT BE NO RIDE ZONES, SLOW ZONES ING VEHICLES TRAVELING IN THE ROADWAYS OF HIGH, UH, UH, ROADWAYS WITH OVER 25 MILES PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT POSTED.
AND THE DOCKLESS SYSTEM WILL REQUIRE MANDATORY PARKING.
AS THERE ARE NO DOCKING STATIONS, WE HAVE PROVIDED AN UPDATE OF WHAT SOME OF THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, WITH THE VO APPLICATION, THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER AGREEMENT WITH VO TO DEPLOY AND OPERATE A MICRO MOBILITY FLEET IN DUBLIN.
AND STAFF WILL THEN ALSO PRESENT CODE MODIFICATIONS FOR MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES TO COUNCIL AT A FUTURE MEETING DATE IN 2025.
UM, BUT WE REQUEST ONE FINAL EXTENSION FOR THE PROGRAM AS WE, UH, FINALIZE THAT CODE LANGUAGE AND IS REVIEWED BY COUNCIL TO YOUR SATISFACTION.
WE ARE SEEKING FEEDBACK REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. THERE IS IN THE MEMO, UH, A STATEMENT THAT VO IS LOOKING TO INVEST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO PARKING FACILITIES ACROSS THE REGION.
SO FOR THE MONEY THAT WOULD COME TO DUBLIN, WE WANNA ASK IS COUNCIL SUPPORTIVE OF INCLUDING BENCHES, TRASH RECYCLING, RECEPTACLES, BIKE RACKS, PARKING CORRALS, PAVEMENT MARKINGS, GLOW PAVERS, AND SIGNS AS POSSIBLE INVESTMENTS WITH THAT MONEY? ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES OF MICRO MOBILITY, DEVICE PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COUNCIL SUPPORTS? AND ARE THERE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS IN THE CITY THAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO PRIORITIZE THESE INVESTMENTS, UH, FOR MICRO MOBILITY, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OF COURSE ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS TO BRING FORWARD.
AND I'LL ALSO INTRODUCE, UH, JOE FROM JOE BOT FROM VO.
HE'S HERE TO HELP WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY, UH, THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT WE CAN ANSWER.
SO ONE QUESTION REGARDING YOUR FIRST QUESTION.
YOU SAID THAT, UM, THE POSSIBLE INVESTMENT IN THOSE THINGS WOULD COME FROM VO CORRECT? THEY WOULD SPEND THE MONEY AND NOT THE CITY.
I'M FINE TO SUPPORT OF THAT
SO YES TO YOUR FIRST QUESTIONS AND UM, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER, MY BRAIN IS KIND OF TIRED RIGHT NOW.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER EXAMPLES, UM, OR LOCATIONS.
I WOULD SAY FOR LOCATIONS IT'S MORE OF MAKE THEM USEFUL AROUND OUR EVENTS.
SO LIKE WHERE OUR PARK, SO LOCATED NEAR PARKING FOR LIKE THE IRISH FESTIVALS SO PEOPLE COULD USE IT, YOU KNOW, UM, OR OUR PARADES, YOU KNOW, FOR 4TH OF JULY.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE TIMES WHERE THE LOCATION WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE AN EVENT WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO RIDE THESE TO OUR EVENTS RATHER THAN WAIT IN TRAFFIC AFTER THE 4TH OF JULY.
THEY'RE COMMENTS, UM, ANSWERING THESE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU'D INVEST IN, IN BENCHES, THAT SORT OF THING.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DUBLIN, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO
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GO THROUGH, UH, THE DESIGN OF PLANNING AND, UH, OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WORRY ABOUT IS WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES WITH SOME, UM, E-BIKES HERE, OR SCOOTERS.THEY HAVEN'T WORKED OUT SO WELL, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS TAKE OFF BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DECIDED WHERE THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WOULD GO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE IN THE RIGHT PLACES WITH THE RIGHT LOOK AND THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
BUT I THINK THIS HAS GOT GREAT POTENTIAL.
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, UM, AREAS THAT MAYBE DON'T GET THE CHANCE, LIKE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND BRIDGE PARK DOES, UM, TO TRY 'EM OUT IN PLACES LIKE AROUND THE, UH, METRO PARK, UH, PLACES WHERE IT'S A LITTLE FARTHER TO WALK AND MAYBE YOU WANNA SPEND SOME TIME WITH A PARENT OR A GRANDPARENT AND THEY MIGHT WANNA GET ON IT, AND IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SOMEPLACE WHERE THEY REALLY GET A CHANCE TO EXPERIENCE IT.
OR MAYBE THEY JUST ROTATE A LITTLE BIT SO THAT YOU DRAW 'EM OUT IN DIFFERENT PLACES JUST TO KIND OF SEE.
SO YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA NUMBER ONE.
YES, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF NUMBER ONE.
I THINK THAT HAVING MULTIPLE PRODUCTS, UM, LIKE YOU HAVE HERE, I THINK IS GONNA BE A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK, I THINK IT'LL PROVIDE BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCCESS.
AS FAR AS OTHER LOCATIONS, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THIS A GO FOR A LITTLE BIT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE USAGE IS, WHERE ALL PEOPLE ARE GOING, THAT KIND OF THING, AND START REALLY LOOKING AT THE DATA TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY SHOULD GO ON A MORE PERMANENT BASIS.
SO, UM, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS WE'RE INTRODUCING TOO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, SIX DIFFERENT VEHICLES OR CHOICES.
BUT THEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT, SINCE WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO FEEL THINGS OUT, IT WOULD SEEM TO MAKE SENSE THAT YOU ALLOW RESIDENTS TO CHOOSE, OR VISITORS TO CHOOSE THE OPTION THAT FITS THEM.
AND AFTER 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS, YOU CAN SEE WHICH OPTIONS ARE POPULAR, WHICH OPTIONS ARE, ARE NOT.
MY, MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THESE THINGS IS THE CLUTTER AND DISARRAY, PEOPLE LEAVING THEM EVERYWHERE.
UM, THERE WAS A STATEMENT, DOCKLESS SYSTEM REQUIRES MANDATORY PARKING COMPLIANCE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S THE CASE.
I, I HOPE IT IS, BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? SURE.
LET ME, I CAN SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THOSE.
I THINK FROM THE, FROM THE DEVICE DIVERSITY STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE REALLY LEAN INTO THE IDEA OF MIXED FLEETS BECAUSE I THINK WE RECOGNIZE IN OUR EXPERIENCE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, DIFFERENT TYPES OF RIDERS HAVE DIFFERENT ABILITIES AND COMFORT LEVELS REQUIRE DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT I THINK WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN OUR, OUR COLLABORATION WITH, WITH JM AND, AND JEANIE WILL BE, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF DUBLIN? RIGHT? DUBLIN MAY NOT WANT SPECIFIC TYPES OF VEHICLES, OR IT MAY, IT MAY REALLY LEAN INTO SEATED VEHICLES BASED ON THE TYPE OF TRIPS.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WORK IN COLLABORATION, LEARN LESSONS FROM THE PAST ITERATIONS OF THIS PROGRAM.
UM, I MEAN, JAM AND JEANNIE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO, I THINK, THINGS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO REMEDY AND, AND FIX.
AND SO THAT WILL BE PART OF, I THINK OUR ONGOING DISCUSSION IS LIKE, WHAT DOES OUR DATA TELL US PEOPLE ARE USING? WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT, IT DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD AS A COMPANY TO HAVE VEHICLES SITTING, RIGHT? UM, THEY'RE NOT GENERATING REVENUE AND PEOPLE AREN'T USING THEM.
AND SO IT DOES CREATE CLUTTER AND IT ADDS TO OUR OPERATIONAL DEMANDS AND ALL THAT.
UM, FROM A PARKING COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT, I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION, WE REALLY TRY TO LEVERAGE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE THING THAT SETS US APART IS OUR LABOR MODEL.
IT'S NOT A FRANCHISE OPERATION.
STEVEN NEEDHAM WITH ME HERE IS OUR COLUMBUS OPERATIONS MANAGER.
HE'S FROM THE AREA HE HIRES AND OVERSEAS AND TRAINS OUR LOCAL STAFF, INCLUDING THE STAFF THAT WOULD SERVICE DUBLIN AND ANY OF THE OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS.
AND SO IN TERMS OF OUR RESPONSIVENESS, WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT WE'RE TRAINING AND THE LOCAL STAFF THAT ARE GONNA GO OUT AND DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS AS THEY COME UP ON A REACTIVE BASIS.
BUT WE ALSO THEN LEVERAGE OUR TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST RELY ON THROWING BODIES AT, AT BEING RESPONSIVE, RIGHT? WE WANT TO HAVE OUR TECHNOLOGY PREVENTING BAD OUTCOMES OR LIMITING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE BAD OUTCOMES THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH.
AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DRIVING FORWARD IS IMPROVING PARKING TECHNOLOGY, WHICH HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN RELIANT ON GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL GPS THAT HAS ITS ERRORS, RIGHT? AND HAS ITS MARGINS OF ERROR THAT THAT CAN CAUSE THE PROBLEMS YOU'RE DESCRIBING.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WE'RE DEVELOPING A NEW, IT'S AN AI POWERED PARKING TOOL THAT LITERALLY IS, IS TRAINABLE TO LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE
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TO BE ABLE TO DETECT OUTCOMES AND GIVE RIDERS REAL TIME FEEDBACK.SO AS YOU'RE GOING TO END YOUR RIDE, EVERY RIDER INDUSTRY STANDARD HAS BEEN, YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF YOUR END OF RIDE, AND THEN THE COMPANIES HAVE TO REVIEW THEM AND AUDIT THEM AND THEN DETERMINE IF IT'S COMPLIANT WITH PARKING RULES.
AND, AND THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD TOOL, BUT IT'S NOT IDEAL.
UM, AND SO IT'S MORE REACTIVE.
AND I THINK AS WE DEVELOP THIS TECHNOLOGY AND WE IMPLEMENT IT IN COLUMBUS AND THE REGIONAL MARKETS, WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING RIDERS REAL TIME FEEDBACK TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S SPECIFIC BIKE RACKS OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS THAT JM MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA FIND WAYS TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE OUR TECHNOLOGY.
SO WE'RE LEVERAGING OUR PEOPLE AND OUR LABOR, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY SO WE'RE NOT JUST RELIANT ON GPS THINGS.
AND THEN ON TOP OF IT, WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE VIOLATIONS AND, AND INSTRUCT RIDERS, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU DIDN'T PARK CORRECTLY.
YOU KNOW, HERE'S A WARNING, THESE ARE THE PARKING RULES, PLEASE CHECK 'EM.
AND THEN THAT HAS AN ESCALATING SCALE OF MONETARY FINES AND EVEN POTENTIAL SUSPENSION FROM THE PLATFORM.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO USE CARROTS MORE THAN STICKS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST LEARNING OR MAYBE MADE A MISTAKE.
BUT WE DO, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY UNDER OUR USER AGREEMENT TO ACCELERATE THAT.
AND IF SOMEBODY WAS DOING SOMETHING SUPER EGREGIOUS OR WE HAD A REPORT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE COULD, WE COULD PERMANENTLY BAN THAT PERSON FROM THE PLATFORM IF IT WAS SOMETHING, AGAIN, SUPER EGREGIOUS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND NOT SAFE.
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I JUST HAVE TWO THINGS.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL NEED BENCHES.
WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF BENCHES IN THOSE AREAS.
THE TRASH RECYCLING, RECEPTABLE RECEPTACLES, I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AT PARKING CORRALS, BUT THEY NEED TO BE THE RIGHT ONES THAT ARE APPROVED IN THE DISTRICTS AND WHERE YOU WOULD MOUNT THEM.
UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WE NEED BIKE RACKS.
WHENEVER I SEE THESE THINGS AROUND A RACK THAT, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SIX DIFFERENT KINDS OF VEHICLES, I DON'T KNOW THAT A RACK IS GOING TO HOST ALL OF THOSE, BUT I DO FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT A PARKING CORRAL FOR THE, THE MIX OF USES.
I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THESE THINGS HITHER AND YON, UH, AROUND, SO I, I THINK PARKING CORRALS WITH THE TRASH RECEPTACLE PRESENT THESE, UM, ARE DORA AREAS PRIMARILY.
AND SO IF SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO DISPOSE OF PRIOR TO GETTING ON, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO DO THAT RATHER THAN LITTER.
UM, AND THEN MY LAST, UH, THING THAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF IS, IS EXECUTING ON THIS IN THE NEAR TERM, PARTICULARLY IN BRIDGE PARK IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UM, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, UH, THERE ARE PREVIOUS CASE ABOUT SIGNAGE FOR THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE A NICE FLEET REPRESENTED IN DUBLIN IN TIME FOR THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT SO THAT, UH, PATRONS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE 'EM.
AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD, UH, A GOOD MOVE FOR US TO, FOR YOUR FUTURE USAGE.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, AND IF YOU WANNA START HABITS, UM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO START THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR.
SO, UM, I, I THINK THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS, I THINK YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF, THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE A COUPLE THAT WE, UH, TRY AND HAVE SUCCESS WITH AND MAYBE ONE OR TWO THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT TO MOVE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PARKING CORRALS LOOK LIKE, IF THAT'S PAINT OR A ADHESIVE MATERIAL OR, OR SOMETHING ON THE SURFACE, BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU, UM, PROCEED WITH THAT.
SO, UH, IN LIGHT OF ALL OF THAT, I THINK THAT COUNCIL IS GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE SUCH YET.
IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PRESENTATION RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION, HEARING NONE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT YOU GOT ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING, JM, THAT WE DID NOT GIVE YOU DIRECTION ON THAT YOU NEED TO MOVE FORWARD? NOT AT THIS TIME.
WELL, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, SEEING THAT LEGISLATION ON AN UPCOMING AGENDA.
[Human Resources Briefing]
I HAVE MADE AN EXECUTIVE DECISION AND I HAVE PUT ON THE TABLE THE QUARTERLY HUMAN RESOURCES BRIEFING.THAT IS NOT LEGISLATION, SO WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR A SECOND FOR THAT.
WE WILL JUST HEAR THAT REPORT AT A LATER DATE.
UH, AND YOU CAN ALL BE MY WITNESS THAT THAT IS ON ME.
[Appointing a Member to the COTA Board of Trustees representing the City of Dublin]
LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS OUR CODE OF BOARD APPOINTMENT AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE BROUGHT BY OUR VERY OWN CITY MANAGER, MEGAN O. CALLAHAN.GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I DO HAVE THE MEMO IN YOUR PACKET.
CITY OF DUBLIN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT A MEMBER TO THE CODE OF BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR A THREE YEAR TERM.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, APPOINT MATT STAR.
MATT'S A DUBLIN RESIDENT, HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN ALL ASPECTS OF DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING FINANCE.
HE'S RECOGNIZED AS A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY AND HE'S ALSO SERVED, AND HE WAS AN ACTIVE MEMBER SERVING ON THE ENVISION DUBLIN COMMUNITY PLAN.
SO STAFF IS SEEKING COUNSEL'S APPROVAL TO APPOINT MATT TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THREE YEAR TERM FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS APPOINTMENT? HEARING NONE, UH,
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COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.YOU DID SEE AN EMAIL COME OUT, UH, FROM MEGAN ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE.
UM, I SAW ONE REPLY TO THAT, SO I BELIEVE CHRISTINA AND I WENT ALONG WITH THAT ONE REPLY.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD IN HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH MR. STAR TO OUTLINE OUR EXPECTATIONS AND HOPES FOR THE POSITION ON THAT BOARD.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MATT STARR TO THE CODE OF BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MAYOR AROSE GROOMS? YES.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE STAFF COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA, AND WE WILL GO BACK TO MEGAN FOR STAFF COMMENTS.
[COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE]
ROUND TABLE.I WILL START DOWN HERE ON MY FAR RIGHT, NOT A WORD.
I PROMISE SOMEBODY I WOULD, I WOULD DO THIS.
SO THIS PAST WEEKEND, THE DUBLIN SILVER BAND WON THE NORTH AMERICAN CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE NORTH AMERICAN BRASS BAND ASSOCIATION CHAMPIONSHIPS IN FORT WAYNE.
ON TOP OF THAT, OUR YOUTH, THEIR YOUTH BAND PLACED THIRD IN THEIR DIVISION.
DUBLIN WAS REPRESENTED BY THREE DIFFERENT BANDS, DUBLIN SILVER BAND, DUBLIN YOUTH BRASS BAND, AND THE DUBLIN METRO BRASS BAND.
NO OTHER CITY OR AREA OF NORTH AMERICA WAS REPRESENTED BY THREE SEPARATE ENSEMBLES.
A TOTAL OF 31 GROUPS COMPETED RANGING FROM NEW JERSEY TO SAN FRANCISCO AND TORONTO TO SAN ANTONIO.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS TO RUN THROUGH REAL QUICK.
UH, WANNA CONGRATULATE BRIAN ELLS AS THE CHAMBER BUSINESS PERSON OF THE YEAR.
UH, SOME OF US ATTENDED HIS RECEPTION ON MARCH THE 18TH, UH, MARCH THE 21ST, THANK YOU TO MANY STAFF AND, UH, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ATTENDING THE STATE OF REGION.
IT WAS A WELL ATTENDED, SOLD OUT EVENT, UH, AND I FELT, UH, REALLY HONORED TO BE PART OF THAT.
UH, I DID ON APRIL THE SECOND, I DID RE MEET WITH NICK DAVIS FROM BERNIE, UH, SENATOR BERNIE MORENO'S TEAM.
I ALSO MET, UH, WITH EMILY FROM MIKE CAREY, HIS NEW DIRECTIVE OF, UH, LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS IN MIKE CAREY'S OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, MUNICIPAL PONDS, UH, TAX EXEMPT STATUS AND A NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES.
UH, DID HAVE THE MORSE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, ON APRIL THE THIRD TO DISCUSS FEDERAL FUNDS AND WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN TO THE ORGANIZATION.
ON THE THIRD, I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A PODCAST WITH THE ORANGE PEEL GROUP, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE FROM, UH, FOR YOUNG LADIES FROM DUBLIN JEROME HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK THEM FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UH, ON THE FOURTH WE HAD OUR COMMA MEETING.
UH, IT WAS HOSTED BY MARYSVILLE.
THE, THE, UM, THE FOCUS OF THAT MEETING WAS ON THE BETA DISTRICT.
AND DOUG MCCULLOUGH PRESENTED ON THE THINGS THAT HA THAT WERE HAPPENING THERE IN THE BETA DISTRICT.
AND TODAY, I WANT TO THANK MRS. GUZO AND MRS. HORST FOR THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE SALES MIDDLE SCHOOL SEVENTH GRADERS.
WITH THAT, THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER AND WE ARE LONG AWAITED, ADJOURNED.