Mar 06, 2025 Planning &amp; Zoning Commission

NOW DO THE ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ALSO

[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]

DOES, HAS EVERYBODY READ THEM? AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025 MEETING.

I'LL MOVE.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, MS. MAXWELL.

OR UNDER CONSIDERATION? SORRY.

UH, IN SUCH CASES, CITY COUNCIL RECEIVES RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.

IN OTHER CASES, THE COMMISSION HAS THE FINAL DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITY.

THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION STATE THAT NO NEW AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE INTRODUCED.

AFTER 10:30 PM THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR CASE FIRST, FOLLOWED BY THE STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE COMMISSION WILL THEN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AND STAFF, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE DELIBERATING ON EACH CASE.

ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE INVITED TO COME FORWARD.

UNDER EACH APPLICATION, PLEASE ENSURE THAT THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON.

THIS IS ON THE AND THE STATE.

AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

WE REQUEST THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.

ANYONE INTENDING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION OR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ADMINISTRATIVE CASES MUST BE SWORN IN.

PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND ANSWER IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH IF YOUR TESTIMONY TONIGHT? YES.

ONE CASE TONIGHT ELIGIBLE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, CASE 25 DASH 0 0 9 A FDP INOS AMENDING AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UM, THERE IS

[Case #25-009AFDP]

DOES ANYONE WISH TO HAVE THIS CASE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS CASE? OKAY.

UM, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO PROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I KEEP PUSHING IT IN THE REVERSE.

IT'S ON AND I TURN IT OFF.

UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE NIGHTS.

[Case #25-017CP]

UM, CASE NUMBER 25 DASH 0 1 7 CP, THE BOGEY END CONCEPT PLAN.

UH, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND NON-BINDING FEEDBACK FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW STRUCTURE, ACCESSORY, AMENITIES, AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE 3.36 ACRE SITE MADE UP OF THREE PARCELS IS ZONED OUR RURAL DISTRICT AND EU EXCEPTIONAL USES DISTRICT WTWP AND LOCATED AT 6 0 1 3 CLICK ROAD.

UM, I'D LIKE AT THIS POINT TO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

THE MICROPHONE IS OFF.

YOU DO NEED TO TURN IT ON.

GREEN LIGHT.

HERE WE GO.

UH, MY, MY NAME'S TROY ALLEN.

UH, I'M THE, UH, FOUNDER AND OWNER OF RISE BRANDS, UH, HERE IN COLUMBUS.

UH, I'VE BEEN A DUBLIN RESIDENT NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS, UH, IN MUIRFIELD TARTAN, AND I CURRENTLY RESIDE ON CONCORD, UH, JUST NORTH OF TARTAN FIELDS.

UM, SO WE'RE TALKING TODAY ABOUT THE, THE BOGEY INN AND KIND OF THE NEW VISION AND DIRECTION OF IT.

COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? SAY IT AGAIN.

UH, STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR

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THE RECORD.

OH, UH, 1 0 1 22 CONCORD ROAD.

SO THE, DO I HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL, OR DO I HAVE LONGER? NO, THAT'S, UH, THE FOLKS COMMENTING.

SEEING ALSO IS TYPICALLY IN PUTTING COURSES, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A BUILDING PUTTING COURSE BEHIND.

YOU CUT ME OFF ANYTIME YOU WANT.

UM, SO TO, TO, TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT HERE.

WE OBVIOUSLY ALL KNOW THE BOIAN.

UH, WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT IT'S GONE THROUGH OVER THE YEARS.

IT'S SAT EMPTY FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

UM, I WILL SIT HERE AND SAY, THIS IS A PROJECT I DIDN'T WANNA TAKE ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, IT'S IN MY BACKYARD.

IT'S AN ICON.

IT'S AN ICON HERE IN DUBLIN AND IN SHAWNEE HILLS.

UM, AS THINGS KIND OF LINED UP, UH, WITH THE MEMORIAL AND, AND OTHER PARTNERS, UM, WE KNEW THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SPECIAL NEEDED TO BE DONE HERE, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND, AND TO KIND OF HONOR THE BOGEY.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WE'VE DONE TO KIND OF REDEVELOP THIS AND DO MORE OF AN ENTERTAINMENT CAMPUS.

SO, SO I'M GONNA BACK UP.

SO, BUILDING THE BOGEY AND BRAND PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE BOGEY IS.

UH, IT MEANS SOMETHING TO EVERYONE DIFFERENT.

WE'VE GONE THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT LAUNCHING A BRAND, TO ME, WE'RE, WE'RE REIMAGINING THIS BRAND.

WE'RE PAYING HOMAGE TO WHAT IT WAS.

IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOREVER.

SO WE TAKE IT THROUGH WHAT'S IS OUR BRAND PROCESS.

I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU THAT REAL QUICK AND THEN I'LL GET TO THE, THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE AND BUILDING, WHICH IS THE IMPORTANT THING.

SO WE ALWAYS CLEARLY SET UP BRAND VISION, AND FOR US, IT'S TO BE A SOCIAL DESTINATION WHERE CONNECTIONS ARE MADE.

UH, AND THE TIMELESS TRADITIONS OF GOLFERS CELEBRATED.

WE REALLY WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING THAT WAS COMMUNITY CENTRIC, THAT WAS BOTH INDOOR OUTDOOR, THAT WAS ACTIVITY BASED, THAT WAS FOOD-BASED, THAT WAS ENTERTAINMENT BASED.

OUR BRAND POSITION IS WE BLEND GOLF'S HERITAGE AND HONOR WITH FUN, LIVELY ATMOSPHERE AND A PUTTING EXPERIENCE DESIGN FOR NOVICES, ENTHUSIASTS ALIKE.

SO THIS ISN'T PUTT PUTT, IT'S NOT MINI GOLF.

IT IS A PUTTING COURSE.

IT'S, IT'S STILL REALLY GREAT FOR KIDS.

ONE, THERE'S 36 HOLES.

ONE COURSE WILL BE HARDER THAN THE OTHER.

SO ONE WILL BE MORE CHALLENGING.

BUT THIS IS FOR FAMILIES, FOR ADULTS.

IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY WIDE DEMOGRAPHIC.

HERE WE GO, STARTS TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, PLAY IS THE LIES.

ONE MORE BITE.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE ADVERTISING, ALL THE MARKETING.

AGAIN, WHAT THIS BRAND, YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S RESONATED WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHAT BRAND ATTRIBUTES IT HAS, AND THEN HOW WE'RE GONNA RECONNECT AND KIND OF TAKE IT INTO THIS NEXT JOURNEY.

AGAIN, SEE SOME GRAPHICS WHERE EVERYONE'S A LEGEND AND NOW YOU GET TO SEE THE BUILDING.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

UH, SO YOU SEE GLICK ROAD UP THERE TO THE NORTH.

UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE REALLY BACK BEHIND THERE WHERE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING SAT.

UM, WE HAVE MOVED THE BUILDING BACK JUST SLIGHTLY FROM WHERE IT ORIGINALLY SAT AND TURNED IT SLIGHTLY JUST FROM VIEWING COMING DOWN GLICK ROAD AND OFF THE DAM.

WE ARE ALSO, WE PUSHED THIS, THIS OVER BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE THE CURRENT LIGHT IN THE INTERSECTION THAT'S THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS LOCATION, AS WE ALL KNOW, TRAFFIC SUCKS.

IT'S, IT'S HORRIBLE UP HERE.

I GO THROUGH IT EVERY DAY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT NUMEROUS OPTIONS OF HOW TO MAKE THIS BETTER.

WHETHER IT'S DEDICATED TURN LANES, WHETHER IT'S AN ARROW, UH, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE OFF OF DUBLIN ROAD.

WE'RE TAKING ALL THAT INTO ACCOUNT TO TRY TO SOLVE FOR THAT.

UM, YOU'LL ALSO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE COURSE NORTH 18, SOUTH 18, WE GO RIGHT UP TO GLICK ROAD.

WE WANTED TO CREATE A LOT OF ACTIVATION OUT THERE.

I LIKE TO ADD ACTIVATION, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALK GOING IN.

THERE'S A FRONT PATIO, THERE'S A MAIN COURTYARD AREA THAT'S IN THE CENTER THERE, BUT EVERYTHING KIND OF FLOWS AROUND THAT COURTYARD AND OUT TO OUR GREENS.

UM, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHAT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING HERE IS, AGAIN, WE WANT THE PUTTING COURSE THE PEOPLE AND, AND TO SEE ACTIVITY KINDA ON GLICK ROAD THERE.

SO WE'VE PUSHED ALL THE PARKING BEHIND, UH, THE BOGEY.

IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO, WE'RE PROPOSING AN EXIT OUT ONTO DUBLIN ROAD FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT.

UM, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS, YOU KNOW, AN OUTDOOR BAR THAT'LL BE YEAR ROUND.

UH, YOU'RE SEEING A RAISED, UH, ELEVATED PATIO WHERE THOSE UMBRELLAS ARE WHERE'RE SEEING WHAT WE'RE CALLING A CORPORATE EVENT CENTER IN THE BACK THERE.

DOES THIS THING HAVE LASER ON IT? DOES THIS THING HAVE A LASER ON IT? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

IF, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU CAN'T FOLLOW ME, JUST, JUST STOP ME.

BUT WHERE THAT BIG TV SCREEN IS, THE DIGITAL SCREEN, THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE NINE HOLES THAT ARE CLIMATE CONTROLLED.

UM, AND IT'LL BE FOR CORPORATE EVENTS.

SO THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE BAR BACK THERE, SEPARATE SENIOR, UH, AREA, SEPARATE RESTROOMS. IT'LL BE SELF-CONTAINED.

'CAUSE WE'RE, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO, ONE, WE DO A LOT OF CORPORATE EVENTS.

UH, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM A WEATHER STANDPOINT WE CAN CONTROL THAT FOR 'EM TWO, WE'RE ALSO, THIS IS A YEAR-ROUND FACILITY.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO OUTDOOR HEATING AND BEING ABLE TO ENCLOSE THAT NINE HOLES, WE'RE TRYING TO GAIN AT LEAST TWO MONTHS IN THE SEASON HERE.

UM, THIS IS A YEAR ROUND CONCEPT WE WILL BE OPENING YEAR ROUND.

THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE

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WE WANT THIS TO BE MUCH MORE INTERACTIVE.

SO EVERY NINE HOLES WE HAVE, WE HAVE PLACES THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR GUESTS CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT ON THE COURSE, SIT, RELAX, THERE'S FIRE PITS THROUGHOUT.

AGAIN, IT'S, THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE DIFFERENT AREAS.

WE ALSO OWN PINS.

UH, SO IT'S THAT SAME WAY.

IT'S LIKE YOU KIND OF DISCOVER YOUR OWN LITTLE NOOK THAT YOU WANT.

SO WE'VE GIVEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS INSIDE.

UH, THERE IS ANOTHER, UH, BAR AND, AND WE'RE DOING WHAT IS A MINI FOOD HALL.

UM, WE WERE GONNA DO THE, OUR OWN RESTAURANT.

UM, AS WE LOOKED AT THIS CONCEPT, HOW WE'RE DOING IT, WE WANTED MORE FOOD OPTIONS UP HERE.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PARTNERING WITH SPECIFIC FOOD VENDORS TO BRING 'EM UP HERE AND HAVE PERMANENT LOCATIONS AND COMMISSARY KITCHENS ON OUR CAMPUS FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

SO THIS IS COMING IN OFF THE LIGHT.

UH, THERE IS A PORTICO THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS WE'RE LEANING INTO THE IDEA OF THE BOGEY INN.

UH, THAT OLD KIND OF FIFTIES, SIXTIES HOTEL STYLE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ROOF LINES, THE ANGLES, THE MATERIALS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE ORIGINAL BOGEY, THAT WAS KIND OF A COMBINATION OF FOUR DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, IT KIND OF KEPT EXPANDING OVER TIME.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FOR ME WAS, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN DINING ROOM WHERE THE BAR WASN'T, THAT HAD THE WHOLE ANGLED, YOU KNOW, ROOF AND IT'S ALL WOOD UP TOP.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE BRINGING THAT IN THIS FRONT AREA WHERE YOU SEE THAT FIREPLACE.

IT'S ACTUALLY TWO STORIES COMPLETELY OPEN.

UM, IT'S GONNA BE A SUNKEN LOUNGE THERE.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE A PLACE TO RELAX.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO PULL IN AS MUCH FROM THE ORIGINAL BOGEY TO HONOR IT AS, AS WE CAN.

AND LUCKILY I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE ALL THE STAINED GLASS WINDOWS.

SO WE HAVE 18 STAINED GLASS WINDOWS THAT REPRESENT THE BOGEY AND ALL THESE HOLES THAT LITERALLY, I WAS SURPRISED THEY STILL HAD 'EM, BUT I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO GET 'EM.

SO THOSE WILL BE WORKED INTO THE CONCEPT AS WELL.

AGAIN, A VIEW FROM GLICK ROAD, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT UPPER BALCONY, UM, THE LITTLE PATIO AREA THERE THAT CONNECTS TO DOWNSTAIRS AND THEN, UH, 360 OUTDOOR BAR.

UM, THAT'LL ALSO BE WHERE OUR STARTER SHACK IS.

SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL GO TO, TO PUTT AND START THE EXPERIENCE.

UM, AGAIN, LOT OF VEGETATION, LOT OF TREES, LOT OF GREEN.

AND THEN THIS IS A VIEW, UH, OUT ON THE COURSE AGAIN AT ONE OF THOSE FIRE PITS.

LOOKING BACK AT THE MAIN FACILITY, YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT THERE, UH, THE, THE CORPORATE CENTER OPENS UP TO BE COMPLETELY OPEN AIR.

UM, THE KIND OF THE ENTIRE CONCEPT DOES.

UH, WE KINDA HAVE GARAGE DOORS EVERYWHERE.

WE WANT THIS THING TO BE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'S ALL I GOT ON THIS.

SO IS THIS QUESTION TIME NOW OR UH, NO, WE'RE GONNA TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER THE STAFF REPORT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. HOLT.

SHOULD I SIT BACK DOWN NOW? THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

LET ME START WITH EXPLAINING WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS WITH THIS PROJECT.

WE ARE AT CONCEPT PLAN WHICH PROVIDES NON-BINDING FEEDBACK FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND WE'RE SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSING LAND USE, SITE LAYOUT, INTEGRATION WITH SURROUNDINGS, THOSE SORTS OF QUESTIONS.

THIS IS AN OPTIONAL STEP FOR A PROJECT THIS SIZE.

THERE ARE MANY ADDITIONAL STEPS TO COME EACH WITH INCREASING DETAIL AND FOR THE REZONING AND THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THIS COMMISSION WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WILL ULTIMATELY APPROVE THOSE ITEMS. , STARTING OFF WITH OUR LOCATION, THE SITE IS IN YELLOW.

IT'S AT THE VERY NORTHEAST CORNER OF DUBLIN AS IDENTIFIED BY THE GREEN LINE.

IT'S ADJACENT TO THE VILLAGE OF SHAWNEE HILLS AND ALSO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, WHICH IS DIRECTLY EAST.

AND THAT'S AT THE DAM, THE RIVER GLICK PARK.

THE RED ARROWS INDICATE THAT SECONDARY ACCESS THAT WAS MENTIONED IN VISION DUBLIN.

OUR NEW COMMUNITY PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE WITH TWO FUTURE LAND USES.

THE FIRST FOR THE NORTHERN AREA IS MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS ENVISIONS A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE SORT OF AREA WITH ONE TO THREE STORIES OF BUILDING HEIGHT AND A LOT OF STREET ACTIVATION.

THE SOUTH PORTION IS AGRICULTURAL OR RURAL.

AND AS YOU MIGHT GUESS, AGRICULTURAL USES OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PRESERVE.

NATURAL FEATURES

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ARE, UM, A GOAL OF THIS AREA.

SO TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING IF THE COMMISSION SUPPORTS THE LAND USES AS PROPOSED, GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE ORIENTED TO THE SITE.

THESE PHOTOS ARE FOR THE GLICK ROAD AND ENVIRONS AND WE SEE THE CLEAN SITE ON THE LEFT BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NOW DEMOLISHED AND CLEANED UP.

AND THEN THE SITE AND THE STREETSCAPE LOOKING WEST ON THE RIGHT, MORE ON GLICK ROAD.

ON THE LEFT WE'RE LOOKING WEST AND JUST OPPOSITE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE VILLAGE OF SHAWNEE HILLS.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT WE'RE LOOKING EAST AND THAT'S THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE USED AS THE ACCESS POINT.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM GLICK PARK.

LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE SITE, THERE IS A MAINTENANCE YARD THAT UH, MAY OR MAY NOT BE TEMPORARY.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WITH THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.

MOVING ON TO DUBLIN ROAD, WE SEE THE ENTRANCE FROM THE MUIRFIELD SIDE OF DUBLIN ROAD AND THEN ON THE RIGHT WE SEE MUIRFIELD AND DUBLIN ROAD KIND OF FROM THAT ENTRANCE POINT SO WE GET A SENSE FOR WHAT THAT AREA LOOKS LIKE.

THE APPLICANT SHOWED YOU THIS INFORMATION, SO I WON'T BELABOR IT, BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE ACCESS, THE PROPOSED MAIN ACCESS IS OPPOSITE OF SHAWNEE TRAIL AT THE NEW SIGNAL.

UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT IN DETAIL IN SOME DETAIL IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UH, BOTH TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND ENGINEERING ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THAT.

THE SITE OBVIOUSLY SLOPES TO THE EAST TOWARDS THE SCIO RIVER BY WAY OF GLICK PARK IN O'SHAUGHNESSY DAM.

AS WE SAW ON THE AERIAL, THERE ARE THE THREE BUILDINGS SHOWN AND THE FIRST, AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED, IS THAT MAIN BUILDING WITH THE FOOD KITCHEN, BAR, LOUNGE, ROOFTOP SPACES.

THE SECOND IS THE OUTDOOR BAR.

THE THIRD IS THE EVENT SPACE WITH THE INDOOR PUTTING.

AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT SPACE WORKS AS WE GO ON THIS PURPLE CROSS HERE IS THE CELL TOWER.

AND OF COURSE YOU SEE THE PARKING TO THE EAST AND THE SOUTH LOT.

COVERAGE IS LIKELY AN ISSUE THAT WE'LL BE ASKING ABOUT.

SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL BE ASKING THE COMMISSION IF YOU SUPPORT THE LAYOUT AND BUFFERING.

WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURE AND SPECIFICALLY THE STYLE, THE MASSING AND THE HEIGHT.

NO MATERIALS ARE IDENTIFIED AT THIS EARLY STAGE.

THIS IS THE NORTH, UH, STUDY THAT FACES GLICK.

THE APPLICANT EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND WE SAW THAT, UM, PREVIOUSLY THIS STUDY FACES GLICK ROAD AND GLICK PARK AND THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRY.

SO THIS WOULD BE YOUR ENTRY EXPERIENCE COMING INTO THE PROPERTY.

THIS STUDY SHOWS THE MAIN ENTRY AND UM, THE MAIN ACCESS FOR BUILDING THREE.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

WE NEED TO BE SURE WE HAVE FOUR-SIDED ARCHITECTURE.

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU SEE THE MAIN ENTRY AT BUILDING ONE.

AND OF COURSE HERE WE SHOW THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE AROUND THAT CENTRAL COURTYARD WITH THE ROOF LINES AND THE ROLL-UP DOORS.

AS THE APPLICANT EXPLAINED.

AND WE SAW THIS AS WELL, UM, IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE NOTED SOME CONCERN ABOUT VISIBLE HVAC ON THE ROOF.

SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE NEXT STEPS.

AND HERE ARE YOUR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.

THEY RANGE FROM THE BROAD TO THE MORE SPECIFIC.

AND WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. HOLT.

UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION NOW FOR QUESTIONS FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF.

UH, MR. GARVIN, DO YOU WANNA START US OFF? THANK YOU.

UH, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS FROM BOTH OF YOU.

UM, MY QUESTIONS ARE MOSTLY GONNA BE AROUND, I GUESS THE PARKING AND THAT

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POTENTIAL SECOND ACCESS POINT TO DUBLIN ROAD.

UM, I NOTED AT ONE POINT IN THE PLANNING THEY MENTIONED, UH, KEEPING THE ACCESS AND SECURITY FOR THE, I BELIEVE THE WATER TOWER INTACT.

SO I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR PLANNING.

WOULD, DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT SECOND ACCESS POINT TO DUBLIN ROAD INTERFERING WITH THAT SECURITY OR ACCESS AT ALL? THEY ARE GONNA BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

MR. DESLER.

, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

I APPRECIATE, UH, THE PRESENTATION SO FAR.

UM, I'M GONNA HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS SO I'LL BE PINGING BACK AND FORTH.

SARAH, BETWEEN YOU AND THE APPLICANT, CAN YOU, UH, SARAH, TELL ME WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD WITH THE VILLAGE OF SHAWNEE HILLS RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE ISSUES ON THE STREETSCAPES? UM, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO, UM, UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH, UM, SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES OF SHAWNEE HILLS TOO, UM, WITH, UM, MR. ALLEN TO PREVIEW THE PROJECT, SHARE WHAT WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, UM, AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

SO WHAT THEIR STREETS SCAPE PLANS ARE, UM, ALONG GLICK ROAD AND WHAT THEIR VISION IS FOR THAT.

SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING, UM, A MAIN STREET PLAN THAT HELPS OUTLINE THEIR STREET SCAPE.

SO WE'VE ASKED TO, UM, SEE A COPY OF THAT.

THEY'RE IN THE REVIEW STAGES OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AS THIS MOVES FORWARD AND IDENTIFY HOW THIS POTENTIALLY COULD INTEGRATE WITH THAT, DEPENDING ON, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IN OUR MEETING WAS THEM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROPOSAL, UM, FACES THE STREET AND INTERACTS WITH THAT AND PROVIDES THAT ACTIVITY.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY MR. ALLEN CAN, CAN CHIME IN TOO, THAT THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HOW THE SITE WAS LAID OUT, UM, AND HOW THAT INTER ENGAGES WITH THE STREET WAS.

SO FROM A STREET, A STREET SCAPE PERSPECTIVE, ARE YOU THINKING, I KNOW THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT A, A, A SHARED USE PATH, 11 FEET IF, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

IS THAT RIGHT, SARAH? HOW DOES THEN WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? THERE'S GONNA BE CERTAIN LANDSCAPING PIECES.

ARE THEY GONNA REDO THE, WHERE'S IT GONNA BE BRICK WITH, YOU KNOW, TREE BOXES OR ANYTHING? DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY IDEA BECAUSE THAT, I MEAN, I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS HOW FAR DO THEY, WHAT'S THE EASEMENT THEY, THAT THE VILLAGE HAS ON THAT, THAT GLICK ROAD CORRIDOR? SO THAT IS PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FROM THEM SO WE CAN HELP ADDRESS THAT MOVING FORWARD.

'CAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS, THIS SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATES, UM, WITH WHAT THEY'RE ENVISIONING FOR THAT, FOR THAT AREA.

SO I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER AT THIS MOMENT, BUT THAT'S ON OUR RADAR.

SO I GUESS I'LL GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

HAVE, HAVE YOU HAD ANY SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE VILLAGE OUTSIDE OF, OF THE CITY? UH, JUST PHONE CALLS.

EVERY, UH, FORMAL MEETING.

THE CITY'S BEEN THERE WITH US.

UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO EVERYONE HERE.

AND SO WE WANTED THEM TO KIND OF BUY INTO WHAT WE WERE DOING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ARE WITH THEIR, THEIR MAIN STREET PLAN, WHICH I THINK IS, IS MUCH NEEDED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND, AND KIND OF BUILDING OFF OF THIS, UH, TO KIND OF CREATE, REALLY CREATE SYNERGY OVER THERE.

UM, BUT NO, THAT I JUST, THE MEETINGS THAT I WAS IN WITH DUBLIN, NO OTHER CONVERSATIONS.

WHAT ABOUT JENNY? HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS THEN ON THE TRAFFIC ASPECT OF THE POTENTIAL WIDENING, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THOSE IMPACTS THE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED INDICATED THAT THERE COULD BE SOME POTENTIAL PROBLEMS WITH THE CITY? UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT THE, WHAT CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAD.

YEAH, GOOD EVENING.

MEMBERS OF PNZ WE ARE COORDINATING.

UM, AND THE NEXT PHASE, IF THIS PROJECT ADVANCES WOULD BE THE PDP, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THAT FORMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

UM, SO WE HAVE STARTED, UH, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH, UM, SHAWNEE HILLS, ODOT, AND COLUMBUS.

'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONAL THINGS HAPPENING HERE.

OBVIOUSLY THE PHYSICAL CONSTRAINT, UM, FROM THE COLUMBUS SIDE IS THE DAM ITSELF AND WHERE THAT ENDS.

UM, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY GLICK ROAD WIDENING EAST OF WHERE THAT, UM, ABU IS.

YEAH, THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A TOUGH PROPERTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ONE.

NO, I KNOW.

I'M JUST FROM THE, FROM THE STANDPOINT, I GUESS WHAT, WHAT CONSIDERATIONS OR DISCUSSIONS WERE THERE OF LEAVING THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE ON DUBLIN? THEN? WHAT, WHAT, I LOST THE CITY FIRST AND I CAN GO THE APPLICANT.

HAVE WE HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THAT? OKAY.

UH, WE'VE JUST BEEN REACTING TO WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONSIDERATIONS FOR HAVING THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE OFF OF DUBLIN THEN COMPARE IT TO CLICK? UH, I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

I MEAN, I THINK ON THAT WE'RE GONNA WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC SITE TO FULLY COME BACK.

FOR US, IT WAS NATURAL TO COME OFF THAT LIGHT 'CAUSE OF THE LIGHT

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WAS PUT IN.

UM, AGAIN, I, I STILL THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE EITHER DEDICATED TURN LANES OR DEDICATED ARROWS, UH, COMING WEST.

UH, JUST LIKE THERE IS EAST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO LEAVE TRAFFIC.

ANYBODY WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS SOUTH WE THINK IS GONNA GO OUT DUBLIN ROAD.

UM, BUT WE THOUGHT THE TWO POINTS OF EGRESS WERE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO YOU'RE ONLY THINKING THEN INITIALLY JUST THE ONLY INGRESS WOULD BE OFF OF THE LIGHT OFF GLICK AND THEN IT WOULD BE AN EXIT ONLY THEN OFF DUBLIN? NO, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ENTER OFF OF DUBLIN AS WELL.

AND THE, I KNOW WE, IT WAS CLARIFIED EARLIER, THE THE CURB CUT IS ALREADY THERE AND IT'S NOT THE WATER TOWER ONE.

I SCREWED UP ON MY ORIGINAL DRAWINGS AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE SAME ROAD, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT.

SO IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ROAD.

SORRY, CAN I INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND? FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

THE SITE, SO THE SITE PLAN THAT WE RECEIVED DOESN'T SHOW THAT ACCESS.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING? IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT ACCESS ROAD TO DUBLIN ROAD, IT SHOWS PARKING.

NO, IT DOESN'T, BUT THAT'S, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO DO? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, YES.

SO WOULD ELIMINATE SOME PARKING SPACES THEN ON THAT BACKSIDE? ON THE BACKSIDE? NO, THE, THE ACTUAL ROAD COMES OUT.

SO THE ACCESS IS DOWN SOUTH.

SO, SO THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER, RIGHT ABOVE THE N AND THE A IN TOURNAMENT, THAT'S WHERE THE ACCESS OF VEHICLE THAT COMES OUT TO THE EXISTING ROAD IN CURB CUT.

SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT EXPLAIN YES, PLEASE.

THAT IS ONE OF OUR COMMENTS OF NEXT STEPS THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE PUD.

THAT SECONDARY ACCESS NEEDS TO BE SHOWN.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

WHO'S GOING TO USE IT, HOW IS IT GOING TO BE ENHANCED? IT JUST HAPPENED, HAPPENS TO NOT BE SHOWN ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN.

SORRY.

YOU'RE GOOD.

IF IT'S ON THE SAME TOPIC, THAT'S FINE.

I'M GOOD WITH IT.

UM, OKAY, SO YEAH, HANG ON ONE SEC.

I THOUGHT IT WAS SHOWN IN OUR SUBMISSION.

IT'S SHOWN ON THE CIVIL.

IS THERE ANOTHER, DO YOU WANNA SHOW, IS THERE A DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU WANNA SHOW? IT'S ON WHAT, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T SUBMITTED? IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? WE DON'T HAVE IT AS PART OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

SO SARAH, GO AHEAD.

UM, YEAH, IT, BRENT LACOUNT, UH, DESIGN COLLECTIVE, I WAS PREVIOUSLY SWORN IN.

UM, IT WAS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN SUBMITTAL AND A LATER STAGE.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION I BELIEVE THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER, BUT IT WAS INCLUDED WITHIN THE CONCEPT PLAN ON THE AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT DRAWINGS.

SO I, I GUESS, AND, AND IT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING, IT'S ONE OF THE, UM, OVERFLOW PARKING DRIVE LANES.

IT'S JUST WE'RE UTILIZING ONE OF THOSE OVERFLOW DRIVE LANES THAT, AND IT CONNECTS TO THE BACK OF THE BOGEY SITE CURRENTLY.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY ANY PARKING.

IT YEAH, YOU CAN SEE IT THERE ACTUALLY.

THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I THINK THE COMMISSION IS OBVIOUSLY, UH, VERY INTERESTED IN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT DESCRIBED OR EXPLAINED OR WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THAT? IS THERE A RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH THERE? IS IT GONNA BE CURBED? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.

SO ASSUMING THAT, THAT ALL OF THAT WILL COME FORTH IN A, IN THE NEXT SUBMISSION YEAH.

THAT A LOT OF THAT WILL COME OUTTA THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL.

WE WANNA HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

SO I THINK JUST CONCEPTUALLY WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON GETTING ACCESS IN THAT DIRECTION TOWARDS DUBLIN ROAD.

AND THAT YOU'S YET TO BE TOTALLY WORKED OUT.

SO IF IF WE HAVEN'T FULLY SUBMITTED IT, THEN, THEN THAT'S ON US THAT IT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT.

IT'S ON OUR DRAWINGS.

SO, AND THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND OUR ENGINEERS.

YEAH, I THINK FOR TONIGHT WHAT'S IN THE PUBLIC RECORD IS WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.

SO I THINK WE STICK WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON.

THIS IS ON THE WELL, AND ONE, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN CONSIDER WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU.

WE ARE AT A CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS THE NON-BINDING FEEDBACK PORTION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TRACK.

AND WE WOULD ENTERTAIN ADDITIONAL EXHIBITS TO THE DISCUSSION.

YEAH, IT IT, IT, IT IS IN OUR ORIGINAL SUBMISSION.

IT'S JUST, IT'S IN THIS PRESENTATION.

IT'S, IT'S IN THE PACKET.

IT'S AT THE VERY END OF THE PACKET.

I THINK THE POINT IS IT DOESN'T SHOW IT FULLY EXTENDING TO DUBLIN ROAD.

IT SH IT INDICATES HOW IT'S COMING DOWN FROM THE SOUTH AND CURVING, BUT THERE IS A SORT OF A GRAPHIC BOX IN FRONT.

IT, IT SHOWS THE ROAD ON THERE.

BUT NOT ALL THE WAY CAN, AGAIN, THIS IS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE.

SO WE KNOW THAT THEY WANNA PROPOSE THAT THEY'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE'RE GONNA VET THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO, AND THAT WAS MY POINT.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE, WE'VE GOT THE, THE CONCEPT AND SO WE WILL, WE WILL ACCEPT THAT AS A DIRECTION YOU'RE MOVING IN ACCORDING TO THIS

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DRAWING.

AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE OUR QUESTIONING.

, IT'S UP ON SCREEN NOW.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

IT WAS GONE.

OB YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FOR THE PURPOSES HERE, NOW IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE TO DISCUSS.

SOUNDS LIKE THE STREETSCAPE PIECES, THE TRAFFIC PIECES, INGRESS, EGRESS, ALL THAT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT BACK.

IS THAT FAIR? THAT IS CORRECT.

WE'RE DISCUSSING LAND USE AND, UM, RELATIONSHIPS TO OTHER USES.

THE STYLE OF THE ARCHITECTURE, THE MASSING, THE ARRANGEMENT OF USES.

SARAH, ON THAT POINT, THERE WAS SOMETHING, UH, WITHIN THE, UM, STAFF REPORT RELATIVE TO A POTENTIAL CONCERN ABOUT SOMETHING WITH THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE ABILITY FOR THE VEHICLES TO MAKE CERTAIN TURNS.

HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED IN, IN YOUR MIND, OR, OR WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM THE APPLICANT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE? AT PDP THAT WILL NEED TO BE SHOWN THAT THE LAYOUT WILL HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE AUTO TURN EXHIBITS.

AND THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE, I DO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE, THE WHOLE, THE GULF HOLES THEMSELVES.

ARE YOU THINKING THESE ARE GONNA BE TURF OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY'RE ARTIFICIAL.

IS THERE GONNA BE ANY GRASS INTERMINGLED AROUND WHERE THOSE TURF IS? YEAH, SO THE, THE, THE ACTUAL GREENS WILL BE TURF.

ALL THE OTHER LANDSCAPING WILL BE ACTUAL REAL, UH, LIVE FOLIAGE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING ON THE COURSE.

UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GRASS, UH, THAT ALL THE GRASS WILL BE ARTIFICIAL, BUT THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT'S OUT THERE, UH, IT FROM THE TREES, PLANTS, EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S, I'D SAY IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 50 50.

SO HELP ME HERE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE, I IMAGINE YOU'RE GONNA BE MAKING SOME GRADE CHANGE FROM AN UNDULATION STANDPOINT RELATIVE TO THE HOW YOU WANT THOSE GREENS TO SIT.

IS THAT FAIR? YEP.

ARE GIMME AN IDEA OF THE CONTINUED MAINTENANCE ON THE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE, THAT TURF MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR THE GREENS? UH, IS IT, LIKE, FROM A REPLACEMENT PERSPECTIVE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO KEEP THEM, KEEP THEM UP? UH, I MEAN, SO I MEAN THERE'S, DEPENDS ON THE, THE TURF WE USE, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, SAND UNDERNEATH RUBBER PELLETS, UH, WHAT THE BASE IS.

WE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MACHINE THAT FLUFFS AND BASICALLY VACUUMS THE GRASS, IF YOU WILL, AT ALL OUR PINS LOCATIONS.

UH, RIGHT NOW AT OUR PINS LOCATIONS, I'D SAY WE SWAP OUT THE TURF PROBABLY EVERY 10 YEARS.

SO WITH THIS, I DON'T SEE US HAVING TO SWAP ANYTHING OUT ANYTIME SOON.

ARE YOU FROM, ARE WE THINKING ANY KIND OF FENCING TO KEEP THAT, THOSE GREEN AREAS WITHIN YOUR PROPERTY? UH, I MEAN, AS WE CONTINUE ON AND GO THROUGH THE PLANNING, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THAT'S JUST HANDLED BY, BY LANDSCAPE.

WE DON'T WANNA BLOCK OFF GLICK ROAD.

AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN OF SHAWNEE HILLS AS WELL.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO, WE'RE NOT SHOWING THAT.

THE ONE, THE ONE THING I WAS THINKING AT, LOOKING AT THIS IS IT'S SOMEWHAT OF AN ATTRACTIVE AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, KIDS COULD COME WITHOUT PAYING POTENTIALLY.

OF COURSE MM-HMM .

ARE YOU WORRIED FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, LET'S SAY LIKE FROM A, A CLOSED SHOP TIME, YOU KNOW, FROM, HOW ARE YOU MONITORING THE, THE SECURITY PIECE OF THAT? THOSE, THE GREENS? YEAH.

SO, SO AGAIN, I MEAN, IF WE END UP DOING A FENCE, IT'LL BE KIND OF MORE AN OPEN FENCE THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THROUGH.

WE, WE HAVE TO SECURE THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? EVEN FROM A LIQUOR CODE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR, OUR MAIN ENTRANCE IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

THERE'S GONNA BE NO OTHER POINT TO BE ABLE TO GET IN EXCEPT FOR COMING THROUGH THAT ENTRANCE.

UH, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON TIME OF DAY, WE STILL WILL CARD EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE OF LEGAL AGE AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

BUT THAT WE WILL REALLY CONTROL THOSE ACCESS POINTS WE HAVE TO, OR WE WON'T PASS OUR LIQUOR.

THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT RELATIVE TO NOT NECESSARILY HAVING THE EXACT AMOUNT OF LIKE, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT LANDSCAPE OR NATURAL MATERIALS AS A RESULT OF THE INSTALLATION OF ALL THAT TURF.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA HOW YOU'RE GONNA MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS FROM A PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT TO HAVE THE NATURAL ELEMENTS? YEAH, ONCE I HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WE'LL SOLVE FOR IT.

SARAH, WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS HAVE YOU HAD WITH APPLICANT REGARDING THE, UH, THE PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NATURAL MATERIALS AND ON THAT OUTDOOR SPACE? WELL, A LOT OF THAT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE MATERIAL BECAUSE THE GRASS WE USE IS ALL PERMEABLE.

SO THERE'S SOME THAT'S NOT, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ASKING FROM A DRAINAGE STANDPOINT.

WELL, IT WAS JUST, THERE WAS AN INDICATION WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THEY HAD A CONCERN, NOT NECESSARILY, NOT NECESSARILY INDICATION THAT THERE WAS ESSENTIALLY GONNA BE TOO MUCH ARTIFICIAL TYPE MATERIAL COMPARED TO THE NATURAL, UH, LANDSCAPE TYPE MATERIAL.

AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY SARAH? I WOULD SAY ALMOST.

LIVING MATERIAL ON LOTS ON PROJECTS.

UM, PUDS DO REQUIRE 45%

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WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT.

SO AT THE NEXT STEPS WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT.

IT WAS MENTIONED AS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT CAN START THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW AND FIGURING OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT, WHEN WE MOVE TO THE NEXT STAGE WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE APPLICANT WILL GET INTO THOSE DETAILS.

I THINK AT THIS STAGE WE'RE STILL HIGH, HIGH ENOUGH LEVEL THAT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN WORKED OUT YET.

AND I THINK THE QUESTIONS ON THE SCREEN GIVE US, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'LL BE DE DELIBERATING KIND OF HELP TO FRAME OUR QUESTIONS TO GET TO THOSE, UM, QUESTIONS.

WHAT TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS HAVE YOU HAD RELATIVE TO, UM, THE PROPOSED PARKING SPACES? I KNOW THAT THE STAFF REPORT HAD INDICATED THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE A SHORTFALL POTENTIALLY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

NO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING BACK THERE.

I MEAN, WHATEVER WE REQUIRE FOR CODE WE'LL HAVE OKAY.

ARE, ARE YOU WORRIED, I GUESS IF THERE IS AN OVERFLOW PIECE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE CONSIDERATION? HOW IS THAT GONNA IMPACT IT? AND AGAIN, I'M THINKING ABOUT LARGER EVENTS, OBVIOUSLY THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE PARTNERS ON THIS IS, IS THE MEMORIAL WITH US.

UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY STILL OWN THE LAND.

UH, WE JUST OWN THE RIGHTS TO THE PROPERTY, RIGHT.

UM, WE, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE REST OF THE REST OF THEIR PARKING.

WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED IT.

BUT ALL THE OVERFLOW PARKING THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THAT'S ON THE DIRT AND GRAVEL.

UH, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT IF WE NEED IT.

WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE I, I, I WANT ALL PAVED FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

SURE.

BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF OVERFLOW THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ADDITIONAL PARKING, THERE WOULD BE SOME ACCESS POTENTIALLY ON THE, THE, THE GRAVEL SPACE THAT YEAH.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE MEMORIAL IS WE ARE STILL GIVING THEM EGRESS OFF THE LIGHT TO THAT PARKING AND THEN THAT CUT ON DUBLIN ROAD GAVE THEM THAT PARKING ACCESS AS WELL.

SO IT ALL, IT ALL TIES TOGETHER.

THE, OUR, OUR, OUR AREA CONNECTS TO THEIR PARKING AS WELL FOR OVERFLOW.

I'M GOING TO, CAN I JUST DOVETAIL ONTO THAT? JUST GO AHEAD BECAUSE WE'RE, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR.

SO WILL, WILL THERE BE A DESIGNATED LAND AREA OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING CURRENTLY THAT WILL BE PARKING DEDICATED FOR THE BOGEY AT ALL TIMES? WE, WE HAVE ACCESS TO IT IF NEEDED.

SO EVERYTHING BASED ON CODE AND OUR PROJECTIONS, WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED IT.

SO DURING THE, THE TOURNAMENT AND THAT PARKING'S USED FOR GENERAL PARKING, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ADDITION ENOUGH PARKING THEN? NO.

THAT'D BE TOURNAMENT PARKING.

WHAT'S THAT? THAT WOULD BE TOURNAMENT PARKING STILL.

SO THAT, THAT WOULDN'T THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING TO TECHNICALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR PARKING BECAUSE IT'S, YOU, YOU CAN'T USE THAT SPACE 'CAUSE IT'S BEING OCCUPIED BY OTHER PEOPLE.

AND THE CURRENT PAVE LOT IS WHAT MEETS CODE FOR THE PARKING SPOTS REQUIRED.

UM, MS HOLD , I THINK IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 336 PARKING SPACES AND THERE'S ONLY, UM, I WROTE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE HERE, 159.

AND AGAIN, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR MAYBE SHARED PARKING OR DIFFERENT USE TIMES THAT COMPLIMENT INSTEAD OF OVERLAPPING.

ALL OF THAT WILL BE INVESTIGATED IN DETAIL AT PDP.

SO THAT WILL ALL BE IN THE PD AGREEMENT.

IT WILL AND ALL WORKED OUT.

I JUST, JUST, I'M, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THAT THAT CLEAR.

SORRY, MR. DISHER, HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING MATERIALS YOU'RE THINKING FOR THE STRUCTURE? YEAH, FOR ABOUT THE LAST TWO YEARS? YES.

UM, I MEAN, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT? I MEAN, I, WE'RE SEEING IT HERE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT COMES AT A LATER DATE WHEN WE, WE SUBMIT THOSE BUILDING MATERIALS.

UH, A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS GONNA BE FROM, FROM THE ERA OF, OF THE DESIGN YOU'RE SEEING, BUT OBVIOUSLY TYING INTO DUBLIN, BUT THE, THE ACTUAL MATERIALS GET SUBMITTED AT A LATER DATE.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I GUESS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, A LOT OF APPLICANTS SOMETIMES FOR CONTENT PLAN, GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING SO AS TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WOULD BRING SOMETHING UP AT SOME POINT LATER, IT, YOU MAY HAVE TROUBLE GETTING CERTAIN THINGS PASSED OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE ALTERATIONS ON THE FLY.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS IF YOU WERE THINKING AHEAD, YOU HAVE CERTAIN IDEAS, THAT'S GREAT.

IF NOT, NO WORRIES.

WE'LL ADDRESS IT.

I MEAN, THE BUILDINGS BE MADE OUT CINDER BLOCKS, STONE AND BRICK.

I MEAN, THE FOOD USE IS, THERE'S FOUR COMMISSARY KITCHENS THAT'LL, THAT'LL SERVE DIFFERENT THINGS.

CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE FOOD ASPECT.

ARE YOU THINKING YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A PRIMARY KITCHEN BUT OFFERS DIFFERENT VENDORS? RIGHT.

DOES DOES THIS ALL GO INTO THIS MEETING WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET APPROVED? I CAN YOU REPHRASE THAT QUESTION, ? NO.

NO.

SO THE, I I GUESS THE, I'M CONFUSED.

THE,

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ONE WILL BE A SCOOP SHOP, ONE WILL BE A PIZZA SHOP, ONE WILL BE A SANDWICH SHOP, SO ON AND SO ON.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE VARIETIES.

THE THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT, SO WHEN THE DETAILS COME FORWARD.

AND SO SOME OF OUR QUESTIONING MAY BE GOING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE NEXT STAGE, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET I GOTCHA.

A FEEL FOR IT.

SO THIS IS NON-BINDING FEEDBACK.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TELLING US YOU'RE WORKING ON IT.

RIGHT? IT'S CONCEPT.

YOU'RE DEVELOPING IT.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

I THINK THE COMMISSION IS JUST ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME, JUST, JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT'S ALL ABOUT.

THIS WILL BE MY LAST QUESTION FOR NOW.

UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS POINTED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT THE LIGHTING.

POTENTIALLY, MY ASSUMPTION IS YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE SOME TYPE OF LIGHTING PRELIMINARY AROUND ON THAT OUTDOOR, AND THIS IS FOR THE OUTDOOR SPACE, NOT NECESSARILY CONCERNING WITH THE, THE OUTDOOR BAR AREA, BUT WITHIN THE GREENS THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED, ARE YOU THINKING LANDSCAPE LIGHTING WITHIN THOSE SECTIONS TO KEEP IT ILLUMINATED COMPARATIVELY TO LIKE YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COURSE DESIGNER'S GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

UH, THE, THE OVERFLOW OF LIGHT'S A CONCERN FOR ME UP THERE.

UH, RIGHT.

SO THE MAJORITY OF OUR LIGHTING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS NOT THE BIG OVERHEAD LIGHTING, IT'S THE LOWER LANDSCAPE LIGHTING THAT CAST DOWN THERE WILL BE SOME OVERHEAD LIGHTING FOR THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT UNTIL WE KIND OF REALLY DO THE STUDY WE'LL, WE'LL DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF LIGHTING WE NEED.

I DON'T WANT THAT THING GLOWING AS YOU CROSS THE DATE.

FAIR.

SO, SO I MEAN, AGAIN, I, I LIVE UP THERE.

I WANT SOMETHING THAT WORKS IN THAT, THAT COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT LIGHTING OPTIONS RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU MR. DESLER.

MR. ALEXANDER, JUST, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

UH, SARAH, I, I, I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT JURISDICTION.

THE STAFF REPORT, I THINK SAYS GLICK ROAD IS CITY OF COLUMBUS.

CORRECT.

SO WILL GLICK ROAD, WILL CITY COLUMBUS CONTROL THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS? SO LIKE, WHETHER THERE'S A WALK ON THAT SIDE? SO WE'LL DEFINITELY, UM, CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH THOSE AGENCIES.

UM, AND IT WILL INCLUDE, LIKE I SAID, THOSE FOUR, THE FOUR JURISDICTIONS.

THE, UM, PARCEL AS IT STANDS NOW WOULD CONTROL WHAT WOULD BE PROBABLY FUTURE, UM, SIDEWALK OR PATH.

SO I THINK THAT DUBLIN WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF JURISDICTION AND SAY, BUT OBVIOUSLY WHAT, THROUGH WHAT JENNY WAS SAYING, WE WOULD WANNA COORDINATE WHAT THAT STREET SCAPE WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE, UH, ADJACENT AGENCIES.

THE RE THE REASON I ASK IS CONNECTIVITY'S OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT.

THERE'S CURRENTLY NO SIDEWALK ALONG THAT SIDE OF CLICK, SO I SEE IT IN THE PLAN, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE DOES IT GO.

AND THEN WHO DETERMINES.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND THAT MIGHT BE A LONGER TERM, UH, GOAL FOR THAT LONGER CONNECTIVITY.

THERE, THERE ARE CROSSINGS AT THAT, UH, EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WOULD HELP THAT FLOW.

UM, ANOTHER JURISDICTIONAL QUESTION.

THANK, THANK YOU.

UM, THE STAFF REPORTS SAY PART OF THE PARCEL IS IN THE TOWNSHIP.

IS THAT NOT IN DUBLIN? IS THAT, AND I MAY BE CONFUSING.

PART OF THE PARCEL IS ZONED WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP THAT IS LEFT OVER FROM WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED.

THAT'S, YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL.

WITH THE PUD, THE ENTIRE SITE WOULD BE ZONED PUD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT APPLYING.

A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS A GATEWAY LOCATION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WAS THERE EVER CONSIDERATION OF MOVING THE BUILDING CLOSER TO THE ROAD? UH, THAT'S, I TALKED TO SHAWNEE HILLS ABOUT THAT.

UH, THE BUILDING'S ONLY 10 FEET DIFFERENT.

IT'S FROM WHERE, WHERE IT CURRENTLY STOOD.

UM, BRINGING THE BUILDING UP, WE WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MASS OF THE BUILDING, KIND OF OVERPOWERING THE ROAD, AND WE KIND OF WANTED A SOFTER APPEARANCE WITH THE GREENS AND THE PATIO AND PEOPLE OUT THERE BEING MORE ACTIVATED.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

UM, HAVE YOU, YOU'LL SEE ON ALL OF OUR, OR MANY OF OUR SHEETS, YOU'LL SEE THE TERM SUSTAINABLE.

UM, TELL ME ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE TURF YOU'RE USING.

YEAH, I MEAN, I, I CAN'T TALK TO THAT RIGHT NOW.

UH, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SELECTED THE TURF.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH MULTIPLE VENDORS ON THERE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK, I THINK THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT, ARTIFICIAL TURF DOES NOT HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY.

I THINK.

THANK YOU MR. ALEXANDER SAR.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THINKING ABOUT LIKE IN THE FIFTIES, SIXTIES, BUT MAYBE ACROSS THE STREET DOESN'T LOOK THAT WAY.

UH, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I'M THINKING AGAIN ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

THERE'S A LOT THEY'RE BUILDING ON SHAWNEE HILLS ACROSS THE STREET ARE, AND YOU'RE GONNA ALL BE TALKING AND SO FORTH.

BUT WHEN YOU AND I LIKE, UM, HOW YOU, UM, ARE

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IS THAT ANYTHING YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PAIRING TOGETHER OR HOW THAT LOOK IS GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEING A GATEWAY IN AND THAT LOOK? YEAH, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA WORK WITH DUBLIN ON, ON THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE FINISH AND ALL THAT.

IF, IF I WAS TO TRY TO MAKE THAT FIT IN WITH OTHER STUFF THAT'S UP THERE, IT'S REALLY A HODGEPODGE OF STUFF THAT'S UP THERE.

I MEAN, THE ONLY NEW BUILDING IS SHAWNEE STATION.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ANGLE OF THAT AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR ROOF LINE, IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

AGAIN, SHAWNEE HILLS DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

THEY LIKED WHAT WE WERE DOING.

THEY, THEY MEAN, FRANKLY, THEY SAID THEY WOULD BUILD THE MAIN STREET PLAN OFF OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO, SO HAVING THE SLANTED ROOFS UNIQUE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.

DOES THAT TAKE AWAY FROM INSIDE NOT AS MUCH OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE SPACE OR THAT NO, NO.

IT ACTUALLY HELPS.

DOES THAT HELP ME WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT? IT, IT HELPS THE, THE, THE ONLY PLACE THAT'S OPEN WITH THE ANGLE ROOF IS THE FRONT WHERE THE FIREPLACE IS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S A SUNKEN LOUNGE AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A MEZZANINE UP TOP THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ONTO THAT THAT'S FOR, FOR EVENTS AS WELL.

SO THE SPACE FLOWS REALLY WELL.

IT DIDN'T TAKE, SO I'M SEEING THAT, THAT WAY TOO.

SO OUT FRONT IT'S GOING DOWN.

LIKE I THINK I'VE GOT THAT AND THEN UP FRONT ON THAT MEZZANINE AREA, IT'S UP OF AN ANGLE IF I YEAH, NO, GOT IT BACKWARDS.

IT CONTINUES UP.

AND WE'RE DOING THAT FOR THE ROOF LINES.

'CAUSE THEY'LL PULL BACK OF THE BUILDING'S GLASS.

WE WANT THAT TO APPEAR TO REALLY GO OUT TO THE COURSE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU KNOW, LIKE ON GLICK, YOU'RE SEEING THE ROOF LINE THIS WAY.

IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, SO O ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE A DESIGN FORWARD COMPANY.

DESIGN IS MY BACKGROUND.

SO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING AND SLIGHTLY TURNING IT LIKE WE HAVE, I TRAVEL THAT ROAD EVERY DAY.

I'M A VERY VISUAL PERSON.

I'M SO CRITICAL OF THAT STUFF.

WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, COMING DOWN GLICK ROAD, HEADING EAST, FOR ME, IT'S THE IDEAL SPOT.

THE WAY IT'S TURNED, THE WAY IT LOOKS.

HOW YOU'RE SLOPING.

SEE THAT? YES.

AND SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS ACTUALLY GO TO THE, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE REAL QUICK? ONE MORE.

SORRY.

SO SEE THE, SEE THE ANGLED ROOF ON THE LEFT THERE, WHERE THE FIREPLACE IS? MM-HMM .

WHERE THE OUTDOOR BAR IS.

THAT'S ACTUALLY AN OLD SUBMISSION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERINGS I SHOWED, WE TOOK THAT ROOF DOWN TO BE FLAT BECAUSE AGAIN, VISUALLY FROM GLICK ROAD, WE WANTED PEOPLE TO NOT JUST BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THE PATIO, BUT SEE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEHIND IT.

AND SO WE BROUGHT THAT ROOF DOWN JUST 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS MORE APPROACHABLE TO BEING THAT WAY.

AND THAT'S ON THE RENDERING.

IT'S JUST NOT IN THIS SUBMISSION.

AND THEN ON THE FRONT TOO, UH, HELP ME WITH THIS.

SO BY HAVING IT BACK JUST A BIT, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHATEVER THAT, THAT ALLOWS THAT TURN SO PEOPLE CAN BE DROPPED OFF EASILY, EASILY.

IS THAT KIND OF YEAH, THERES, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THERE.

I MEAN, FOR US UTILIZING THE LIGHT AND CREATING AN ENTRANCE OFF OF THAT, WE NEEDED TO BRING THE BUILDING BACK JUST SLIGHTLY MM-HMM .

BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET THAT TURN IN THERE.

WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE TRUCKS AND CODE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO GAIN SPACE.

UM, WE HAVE THAT DRIVE GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

BUT AGAIN, WE WANTED THAT TURNAROUND WHERE PEOPLE CAN DROP OFF AND GO RIGHT BACK OUT.

I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE YEAH.

ACCESSIBLE THAT WAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO NOW, UM, KEEPING ON THE, THE, UM, HOW FAST THE TRAFFIC'S GOING.

IF YOU'RE ON GLICK ROAD, IT'S 25 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

IF YOU'RE ON DUBLIN, IT'S 35 OR, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THAT AND IF THAT'S GONNA BE A CHANGE.

45.

45 IS, I THINK DUBLIN'S 35.

BUT DUBLIN'S 35 TRANSITIONS, UH, WE WON'T BE CHANGING THOSE EXISTING SPEED LIMITS, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S 45 IN.

THAT'S, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

IF THERE WOULD BE ANY CHANGES WITH THAT.

CAN I MENTION THE WORD SINKHOLE? I, I SAW THAT IN THE PACKET.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, ? AND DO YOU WORK AROUND THAT? IS THAT, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BRING UP ANYTHING WITH THAT.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? OH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SINKHOLE IN THE AREA.

THAT SHAWNEE HILLS HAS A FRAMEWORK OF A PLAN AT LEAST, AND WE WILL BE COORDINATING WITH THEM.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT UP IS SOMETHING TO BE MINDFUL OF.

PLEASE.

JUST REAL QUICKLY, THERE ARE KNOWN, UH, REGIONS IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN THAT ARE SINKHOLE.

THE TERM WOULD BE SINKHOLE.

IT'S BASICALLY A KARST TOPOGRAPHY OR KARST, UH, SOIL THAT WATER FLOWS THROUGH VERY QUICKLY WITHIN THE PARCEL THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT THE WATER TOWER IS ON.

THERE ARE TWO OF THEM, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE WATER TOWER.

SO THERE IS KARST, TOPO KARST SOIL IN THE AREA.

WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL LIMITS OF IT.

SO OBVIOUSLY AS THEY PERFORM ANY WORK ON THE SITE, IF THERE ISN'T ANY ADDITIONAL ON THE SITE, IT WOULD BE FOUND AT THAT TIME.

AND AGAIN, IT, FOR THEM, IT WOULD MEAN ADDITIONAL WAYS FOR THE WATER TO FLOW AWAY FROM THE SITE AND INTO THE GROUND.

AND JUST WE DID DO THE DRILLING.

UH, LAST QUESTION JUST ABOUT, UH, SHAWNEE HILLS AND DUBLIN.

UH, WE'VE WORKED HARD ON, UM, IMPLEMENTING, UM, BIKE PATHS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

DO WE SEE THAT BEING INCORPORATED IN HERE? IF SHAWNEE HILLS HAS SOME PLACE THAT WE CAN CONNECT WITH? I THINK THE IDEA IS, MS. RAUCH SAID WAS

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THE APPLICANT'S GONNA BE COORDINATING AS WELL.

AND THE IDEA IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS ALONG GLICK LOOKS SEAMLESS SO THAT IT ISN'T A, A RANDOM PATCHWORK.

SORRY, I WAS MISUNDERSTANDING WALKING VERSUS, YOU KNOW, A BIKE PATH AND SO FORTH.

YEAH, THANK YOU MS. HARDER.

MR. CHINOOK, I THINK WE'VE, UH, ASKED ENOUGH QUESTIONS.

I HAVE, I HAVE JUST ONE QUICK, QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I WANNA, I, I THINK THE ONE, ONE THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS A CONGESTION.

OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS TODAY IS ARE WE SUPPORTIVE OF THE BILLING ORIENTATION ON THE SITE? AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING THAT.

BUT AT THAT, UM, IF YOU MIGHT MIND KEEPING THAT SITE PLAN UP, THE, THE CURVED ENTRY I KNOW WAS AN ISSUE FROM STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND, AND ALSO THE K KIND OF, WELL, I GUESS WE'LL START WITH STAFF.

SO THE, THE CURVED ENTRY, CAN YOU EXPAND UPON THE CONCERN THERE OR THE CURVE AT THE ENTRY? I SHOULD SAY , WE HAD SOME CONCERNS.

OH, I KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

UM, WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE ANGLE COMING OUT AT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT.

YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH AS THE, UM, PROJECT.

SO CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC BACKING UP AND OR WHAT, WHAT'S THE SPECIFIC CONCERN.

NO CONCERN.

SO THEN A QUESTION FOR APPLICANT .

THE, THE THE DROP OFF AREA.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT CONGESTION? AND BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ALL, YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON CLICK ROAD AND PEOPLE TURNING IN AND OUT.

WE ASSUME THE SPACE WILL BE A VERY BUSY, BUSY SITE ACTIVE SITE AND THAT BEING A A, A KEY POINT.

AND IS THERE ANY CON, I MEAN, I, I GUESS I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED, BUT YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S FAR ENOUGH BACK THAT YOU DON'T FEEL, FEEL ANY NEED, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANY KIND OF BACKUPS OR ANY CONGESTION THERE AS PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND OUTTA THE SITE AND THE DROP OFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK WE'RE, AS WE CONTINUE ON WITH THIS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THE TRAFFIC STUDY BACK.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA TELL US A LOT.

THE TRAFFIC UP HERE WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT DOING THIS.

UH, YOU KNOW, AND I STEERED AWAY FROM IT FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE OF THAT.

UM, I THINK WHEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS.

I MEAN, I'M, I'VE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON STUFF, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SAY HERE 'CAUSE IT'LL BE ON THE RECORD.

UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SIDEWALKS, BIKE PATHS, ALL THAT, WE'RE ALL FOR IT.

I MEAN, WE, WE SUPPORT ALL THAT.

I, I EVEN SUPPORT GIVING UP SOME OF OUR LAND IF WE NEED TO.

IF IT, IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY THEY NEED TO WIDEN IT, WE, I WANT TO SOLVE FOR THE TRAFFIC ISSUE UP THERE.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH ONE TO SOLVE FOR.

AND THEN AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION, I ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA WANT SOME SORT OF, I, I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT THE CONNECTION TO SHAWNEE STATION, LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN, I GUESS ACCESS, THAT'S, IS THAT'S WHERE THEY ALL ACCESS ACRO, THEY WOULD ACCESS OR YOU WANT EM TO ACCESS? YES.

SO THERE'S CURRENTLY, YEAH, THERE'S CURRENTLY CROSSWALKS THERE.

THAT, THAT ARE ON THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT.

SO YOU'D ENCOURAGE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IF THEY WENT THERE? OH, THAT QUESTION THERE AND COME ACROSS FROM OH YEAH, THAT QUESTION.

PERFECT.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE WAS HANDLED.

THANK YOU MR. CHINOOK.

UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

UM, FIRST ONE IS THE ADJACENT VACANT PARCEL THAT'S ACTUALLY IN SHAWNEE HILLS.

WHAT'S THE, DO, DO WE HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT PRO THAT PARCEL? UM, IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS FOR IT OR WE DO NOT KNOW.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY A BLANK SLATE RIGHT NOW.

LAND, WHICH I KNOW YOU GUYS WON'T GIVE UP THAT.

WHICH WOULD, YEAH.

NOT, AND I WONDER IF WE CAN DIRECT APPLICATION THAT STORY AS WELL.

HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT FROM SHAWNEE IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS? NOT THAT I DON'T GET YELLED AT WHEN I SAY .

UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WE DID THAT AND CARVE THAT OUT IS WE WANTED TO JUST WORK WITH DUBLIN ON THIS.

UH, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO MULTIPLE WITH SHAWNEE HILLS AND, AND, AND DUBLIN.

UM, THE, SO WE CARVE THAT SPACE OUT.

SO, UH, THE MEREFIELD AND THE MEMORIAL STILL OWN IT.

I THINK WHEN A BIGGER PLAN IS DONE ON THAT CORNER, UM, THAT FULL DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT BECOMES MUCH MORE VALUABLE LAND TO WORK THAT IN.

UM, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT OWNERS DOWN THERE AND SO MANY DIFFERENT VISIONS.

THERE SHOULD BE A MASTER PLAN THAT JUST DOESN'T EXIST.

I THINK THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE TO, YOU KNOW, UNTIL IT GETS DEVELOPED TO DO A, A POCKET PARK OR SOME OTHER STUFF.

BUT TO ME IT HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF GREEN SPACE.

IT CAN'T JUST BE LEFT PARKING LOT, BUT, SO IT'S ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE MEMORIAL ALSO, BUT IT'S IN SHAWNEE HILLS.

I GET, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO YOU HAVE NO, YOU'VE HAD NO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOMEHOW TRYING TO PULL THAT INTO THIS WHOLE PLANNING EFFORT.

AGAIN, I'M, IT GOES BACK TO SORT OF THE JURISDICTIONAL PIECE OF THAT AND HOW THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT SPACE.

I MEAN, AS PART OF OUR INITIAL DISCUSSION DISCUSSIONS, AGAIN, AS TROY SAID, IT'S, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE, BUT AT THIS POINT IT'S, IT'S SHOWN, UM, JUST TO BE GREEN SPACE AT THIS POINT.

YEAH, I MEAN THE, SO YEAH, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE IT ALL AS ONE PARCEL.

UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE, WE TALKED ABOUT YEAH.

YOU KNOW, CAN DUBLIN ANNEX IT? SHAWNEE HILLS WANTED TO ANNEX THE DUBLIN

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UM, SO FOR ME THIS WAS, IT WAS MORE WORKING ON OUR TIMELINE, THE LEAST PASS THE RESISTANCE, BECAUSE I JUST DUNNO HOW LONG THAT PROCESS IS GONNA TAKE TO MAKE THAT ALL ONE PARCEL.

I MEAN, MORE FRONTAGE ONTO GLICK ROAD WOULD GIVE YOU SOME MORE RIGG WIGGLE ROOM WITH ACCESS AND ALL THAT.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PINCHED DOWN IN THAT ONE PARCEL COULD REALLY HELP YOU TO SOLVE THAT.

BUT I, I'M ALL FOR IT.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.

WE JUST HAVEN'T TAKEN IT ANY FARTHER.

GREAT.

UM, AND THAT KIND OF LEADS ME TO THE, THE CELL PHONE TOWER NEEDS TO HAVE ACCESS, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN ANY ACCESS.

IS IT YOUR ATTENTION? YOU USE THAT VACANT PARCEL TO GET TO THE CELL TOWER.

SO, SO THAT, THAT ACCESS, THERE'S AN EASEMENT THAT WE'RE SOLVING FOR, AND THEN THE ACCESS IS THROUGH OUR PARKING LOT THAT THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL.

UH, HI, GARRETT BAKER WITH AMERICAN STRUCTURE 0.2550 CORPORATE EXCHANGE DRIVE.

UM, WE'RE IN ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CELL TOWER OWNER, AMERICAN TOWER ON HOW TO MAINTAIN AND PROVIDE ACCESS.

THEY HAVE A 10 FOOT ACCESS, UM, EASEMENT THROUGH THE SHAWNEE HILLS PARCEL OPTIC LAKE ROAD PRESENTLY FOR, FOR ACCESS ON THAT, SO THAT WOULD LIKELY BE THE SOLUTION TO THAT ACCESS? UH, YES.

UM, UM, IN THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

THERE WAS A, UH, COMMENT ABOUT, UM, FLIPPING THE BUILDING SO THAT THE, THE GULF WAS ON THE PARK SIDE AND THE RIVERSIDE, AND SO THAT THERE WAS THIS KIND OF CONNECTION OF OPEN SPACE IN A BIGGER, UH, STANDPOINT.

AND THEN IF THE BUILDING FLIPPED, THEN ALL OF THE VIEWS WOULD BE OUT KIND OF OVER THE RIVER INTO THE PARK.

HAD YOU, HAD YOU CONSIDERED THAT? AND, AND SO WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT SITE PLANS ON THIS ONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RIVER IS AN IMPORTANT THING THERE.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NO VIEWS OF THE RIVER UNLESS WE CUT DOWN A TON OF TREES.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, FLIPPING THE BUILDING, WE ARE, I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY TRYING TO SOLVE FOR THE TRAFFIC UP HERE.

LIKE THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO COME IN OFF THAT LIGHT.

IF I FLIP THE BUILDING, WE CAN'T USE THAT INTERSECTION ANYMORE, AND IT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ENTRANCE LIKE IT WAS IN THE PAST, AND IT JUST BECOMES A CLUSTER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP GOING THIS DIRECTION.

I, I GUESS IT WAS THE FIXED ACCESS POINT THAT WAS DRIVING IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE ASKED OTHER ONES.

ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT? I WANNA, UM, GO BACK AND ASK SARAH A QUESTION, 'CAUSE THAT WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED WITH THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN FOR THE SITE AND WHERE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN STRATIFIES USE, SO AT THE BACK OF THE SITE IT SAID AGRARIAN OR RURAL, OR THE LEAST INTENSIVE, MOST GREEN AT THE BACK OF THE SITE, WHICH IS WHAT OUR ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN SAYS.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

I'M GONNA CLOSE OUT OUR QUESTION PERIOD, AND I'M NOW GONNA OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO THANK YOU MR. ALLEN.

UM, AND I'M GONNA ASK ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT, TOM, MOVE THEIR WAY TO THE DAIS AND THE MICROPHONE IS ON AND WELCOMING.

UM, JENNY, HAS THERE BEEN ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M GONNA CLOSE THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND I'M NOW GONNA OPEN UP, UH, THE DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION FOR, UH, UM, FINAL WRAP UP AND LET'S KEEP GOING TO MR. GARVIN.

UM, SO STICKING TO THIS KIND OF STAGE THAT WE'RE AT, UH, I'LL GO THROUGH THESE QUESTIONS AND I'LL HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS MAYBE TO KEEP IN MIND IN THE FUTURE.

UM, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED LAND USE.

UM, FOR THE SECOND QUESTION, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE SITE LAYOUT.

UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT SECOND ACCESS POINT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.

UM, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, MASSING BUILDING HEIGHT.

I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, KIND OF FORGET WHAT WE CALLED IT, MID-CENTURY MODERN, THAT KIND OF FIFTIES PALM BEACH FEEL.

I LIKE THAT A LOT.

UH, I THINK YOU'LL HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE MATERIALS, AS WAS ALLUDED TO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PMU WILL BE AN APPROVED, UH, MATERIAL.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT FEATURES HEAVILY IN THE INITIAL IDEA.

SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.

UM, PROJECT BUFFERING AND MITIGATION, UH, I, YOU KNOW, WE ALLUDED TO AN OPPORTUNITY MAYBE WITH THAT SHAWNEE HILLS SECTION, UH, THAT COULD SOLVE A LOT OF YOUR PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT MIGHT BE DOWN THE ROAD FOR NATURAL ELEMENTS RELATIVE TO THE SYNTHETIC MATERIALS.

UM, BUT, UH, I AM SUPPORTIVE IN GENERAL.

UM, AND MY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WILL BE AROUND TRAFFIC, WHICH WILL COME WITH THAT TRAFFIC STUDY.

YOU KNOW, I ECHO DAN'S COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MR. GARVIN.

MR. DRESLER,

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I APPRECIATE THE APPLICATION AND THE CONCEPT PLAN.

I'M SUPPORTIVE.

I'M EXCITED TO GET SOMETHING BACK OVER THERE AS A BOGEY FREQUENTER FOR TOO MANY YEARS, MANY YEARS, UH, LIKE BACK INTO THE EIGHTIES.

SO I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WITH IT.

UH, IF WE'RE GONNA RUN THROUGH THESE, I'M SUPPORT OF THE LAND USE.

I, I, I ACTUALLY LIKE WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE.

I LIKE THE BUILDING DESIGN.

I LIKE THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE EVENT, EXCUSE ME, THE EVENT SPACE WITH THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN INDOOR USE YEAR ROUND.

UM, SO AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN AND AS IT AS IT'S PROPOSED NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHE, MR. ALEXANDER.

I, MR. I LIKE THE IDEA, BUT WHAT I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IS THE WAY THAT IT, THE SITE IS LAID OUT.

I THINK IN SOME WAYS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CONTRARY TO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY PLAN IS ATTEMPTING TO DO.

I THINK THE FACT THAT IT IGNORES THE STREET, THE BUILDING REALLY SHOULD BE UP CLOSER TO THE STREET.

I THINK YOU HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO LINK WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARCEL.

'CAUSE LOGICALLY THEY'RE GONNA CONNECT TO THE STREET.

I THINK YOU HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY CREATE A, AN, A COMMUNITY OF BUILDINGS IF YOU WERE CLOSER TO THE STREET.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR COMMUNITY PLAN IS ABOUT.

HOW DO WE CREATE A CENTER, A COMMUNITY CENTER THERE? AND YOU'RE BUILDING, I I THINK YOUR CONCEPT IS DESIGNED AROUND THE CONCEPT AND NOT THE SITE.

AND SO, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAME WITH A PRECONCEIVED CONCEPT AND DROPPED IT ON THE SITE.

UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

I APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU, MR. ALEXANDER.

WELL, JUST THE FACT THAT IT IGNORES SOME OF THE OBVIOUS URBAN DESIGN CUES.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I BRING THAT UP.

ALSO, IT'S A GATEWAY LOCATION.

AND JUST BECAUSE THE BOGEY IN IS BACK SO FAR DOESN'T MEAN THIS BUILDING NEEDS TO BE BACK SO FAR.

NOW THAT'S JUST ONE VOTE.

I'M ALSO A LITTLE WORRIED, I'M ALSO A LITTLE WORRIED THAT WE'RE ABANDONING A LOT OF PIECES OF OUR COMMUNITY PLAN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WAY THE PLAN THOUGHT THE SITE SHOULD BE STRATIFIED.

UM, WHERE YOU GET LESS USE HERE, WE PUT ALL THE PARKING IN THE BACK, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT, BUT MAINLY IT'S THE WAY THE FRONT OF THE SITE'S DEVELOPED THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE TO ME.

I, I KNOW THE STAFF MENTIONED THE CMU, I UNDERSTAND THE USE OF THE CMU PRODUCT THAT'S OPEN, AND I, I LIKE THAT IDEA, THE USE OF EXPOSED CMU.

OTHER PLACES I WOULD BE UNCOM, UNFINISHED, CMU, OTHER PLACES I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH.

BUT I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO THE AESTHETIC YOU HAVE IN MIND.

I, I THINK WHEN THE ARCHITECTURES DEVELOPED MORE, WE CAN SEE HOW THE PIECES CONNECT.

UM, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT NOW.

UM, I, I THINK BUFFERING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, I, I THINK BUFFERING IS GONNA BE CRITICAL.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT OUR CODE IS ALL ABOUT HOW WE BUFFER ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

UM, AND SO I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S CRITICAL.

I ALSO THINK THE COVERAGE IS CRITICAL AS WELL.

I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY 'CAUSE THAT MATERIAL DOESN'T HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD.

I WISH SOME OF YOUR GREENS COULD ACTUALLY BE GRASS.

OH, I'D GIVE ANYTHING FOR THAT .

I, I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT, BUT THAT WOULD HELP YOU WITH THE COVERAGE.

UH, AND IT ACTUALLY MIGHT ATTRACT ANOTHER CLIENTELE TO USE, USE THOSE PRACTICE GREENS.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

MS. HARD THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I THINK EVERYONE'S REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OWNED IT IN THE PAST BRING THIS EXCITEMENT TO THIS BECAUSE HOW IT WAS PERCEIVED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

UH, SO MANY FAMILY EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU'RE BRINGING US REVITALIZATION, FAMILY ORIENTATION THAT THEY, AND THAT THE ACTIVITY, THE, UM, WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE COMING AND SO FORTH.

IT'S, IT'S JUST THINKING ABOUT THE MOUNDING AND, UM, THE BUFFERING.

UM, ALSO, UM, THE ENTRANCE, MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S SAFE AND, AND COLLECTIVE IN THAT, THAT REGARD.

I, UM, I ALSO, UM, THAT CONNECTIVITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, THE GATEWAY IN IS IMPORTANT.

UM, AND I THINK, AND THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT.

I, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S STARTING LIKE, LIKE IT WAS STATED ALREADY.

THANK YOU, MS. HARDER, MR. CHINOOK.

I, I, I, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

THE RENDERINGS WERE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND YOUR VISION, SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK AND THOUGHT THAT THAT WENT INTO THAT FOR SURE.

I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC CONCEPT.

I THINK LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IS SAYING, UM, IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING UNIQUE THINGS TO DUBLIN, IT CERTAINLY IS THAT IT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO DO BESIDES JUST EAT.

UM, SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S NICE TO HAVE AN ACTIVE, ACTIVE SPACE.

I AM, I'M ALSO, I AGREE.

I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THE ORIENTATION ON THE SITE, THOUGH.

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IT'S STARTING TO DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT FROM OUR, FROM OUR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PLAN.

AND THERE, IT BRINGS UP A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH ALCOHOL AND JUST, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA CONTROL IT, BUT WHEN THERE'S DURING THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT AND THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE UP THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA CONTROL IT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF, I MEAN, JUST THIS, THOSE GREENS BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE, THE ROADWAYS AND THE OUTDOOR BAR.

AGAIN, AWESOME CONCEPT.

I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONTROLLING ACCESS TO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE MAYBE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.

UM, AND AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO BRING THAT BUILDING UP AS CLOSE TO THE, UM, TO, TO AS GLICK ROAD AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, CAN, WOULD BE, WOULD BE, WOULD BE GREAT.

AND I MEAN, I THINK WE BROUGHT UP TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, A DRIVING FACTOR AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

BUT AGAIN, UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.

OH, AND I'LL, I'LL MENTION TOO, SORRY, ON THE ARCHITECTURE SIDE, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY NEAT.

I, I LOVE THE, THE NOD TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS BOGIE, AND YOU JUST SAID BE VERY, VERY MINDFUL OF THOSE MATERIALS THOUGH, AS, AS ALREADY MENTIONED.

UM, AND, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

UM, BUT AGAIN, APPRECIATE IT.

AND, UH, YEAH, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHINOOK.

WELL, I THINK YOU CAN SEE THE, THERE'S SOME GREAT ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, I TOO SU TOTALLY SUPPORT THE LAND USE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST GREAT TO SEE THAT SITE COME BACK IN ACTIVE USE.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED, UH, LAND USE, I THINK IT'S FINE.

BUT THE SITE LAYOUT, I ECHO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT I, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS TO WORK ON.

AND IT'S, IT, AGAIN, I HEARD THE, THE CONCEPT OF GATEWAY LOCATION.

I THINK THE WAY THAT IT RELATES TO THE STREET, THE LAYERING OF IT FROM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BUILDING BACK TO, TO NATURAL.

AND I, AND AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD URGE YOU TO KIND OF RETHINK THAT A LITTLE BIT OR THINK THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION TONIGHT.

UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, I THINK HAS GOT A GREAT VIBE.

I, I, I'M WONDERING, IS THERE A MID-CENTURY MODERN DUBLIN ? AND IT, DOES THIS REFLECT IT YET? AND I, SO I THINK AS YOU, AS YOU DEVELOP THE ARCHITECTURE, JUST THINK THAT THIS IS, AGAIN, GATEWAY, UH, INTO DUBLIN.

IT, THIS REP BUILDING'S GONNA REPRESENT DUBLIN, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL, YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THAT WAY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M, AND AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME BUFFERING ISSUES, LIKE HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE, UM, SITES AROUND IT THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN EXPLORED YET? BUT I, I, I REALLY SUPPORT THIS AND APPLAUD YOU FOR THIS INITIATIVE, THIS EFFORT.

AND, UH, I THINK I'LL SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSION THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU TO COME COMING BACK WITH SOME, SOME MORE DETAIL.

UM, AT THIS POINT, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEED, ANY CLARITY ON ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE COMMISSIONER GAVE YOU TONIGHT? OR NO, NO COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE, ALL THE FEEDBACK.

WE'LL TAKE IT ALL INTO ACCOUNT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH A, A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE MET WITH YOU GUYS.

UH, THE, BUT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING ALL INTO ACCOUNT.

I MEAN, AGAIN, I, I LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I WANT THIS THING TO BE A SUCCESS.

UH, SO YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

I WOULD SAY KEEP IT COMING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. ALLEN.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK SOON.

WILL BRING, UH, UH, PEOPLE TO THE SITE AND, UH, ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC IN THE COMMUNITY IS, UM, REALLY, UH, THE MISSION OF, OF MOST RELIGIOUS FACILITIES.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON

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NOW TO OUR NEXT CASE.

CASE NUMBER 24 DASH 0 3 6 CU RADIANT LIFE CHURCH CONDITIONAL USE THE REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW SOCCER FIELDS AT AN EXISTING CHURCH.

THE 24.48 ACRE SITE IS OWNED.

R RURAL DISTRICT IS LOCATED AT 7 1 0 0 POST ROAD.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP, UH, FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

AND I SEE THAT THAT IS MR. UNDERHILL, WELCOME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU MR. WAY, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

UH, MY NAME IS AARON UNDERHILL.

I'M AT UNDERHILL IN HODGE AT 8,000 WALTON PARKWAY IN NEW ALBANY.

UM, APPRECIATE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND, UH, REPRESENT, UH, RADIANT LIFE CHURCH AND, UM, UH, THEIR GOAL OF, UH, OF, UH, ACCOMMODATING SOCCER LEAGUE HERE.

AND, UM, THERE'S BEEN, UH, A LOT OF, UH, WORK ON THIS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

I, UH, HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED THAT LONG, BUT, UM, CAME IN TO TRY TO REALLY FINE TUNE THE OPERATIONS PLAN THAT IS, UH, A PART OF THIS SUBMITTAL.

AND, UM, UH, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 21 YEARS OF COMING HERE, WE HAVE ZERO CONDITIONS IN A STAFF REPORT.

UH, FIRST FOR ME, UH, MAYBE WE WON'T END UP THERE AND WITH ZERO CONDITIONS, BUT CERTAINLY A GOOD STARTING POINT.

I THINK IT'S INDICATIVE OF, OF OUR WORK WITH STAFF AND, UM, AND, UH, THE FINE WORK.

I, I, THEY'VE REALLY DONE A GOOD JOB.

I WANNA GIVE SARAH A LOT OF CREDIT FOR REALLY GUIDING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BUT WE'VE GOT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, HERE A, A SITE WITH A, AN EXISTING INSTITUTIONAL USE.

AND, UM, OBVIOUSLY AS WITH MOST RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, UH, PROVIDING OUTREACH AND, AND THINGS, UH, THAT

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AND, UH, THE CHURCH HERE SEES THIS AS A REAL EXTENSION OF WHAT THEY DO.

AND, UM, REALLY, UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UM, ACCOMMODATING A USE LIKE THIS ON A PRIVATE SITE IS, UM, TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF BURDEN OFF OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF, UM, PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR FACILITIES IN OTHER PLACES.

UM, DUBLIN IS OBVIOUSLY RICH WITH, UH, WITH PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE CONTEXT OF WE'VE GOT AN UNDERUTILIZED PIECE OF PROPERTY HERE, AND, UM, AN AVAILABILITY TO KIND OF, UH, PARTNER WITH A, A SOCCER LEAGUE THAT REALLY HAS A COMMUNITY SORT OF, UH, BENT TO IT IS, IS, IS A GOOD FIT IN OUR OPINION.

UM, IN ADDITION TO WORKING WITH THE STAFF, UH, THESE GENTLEMEN AND, UH, THEY MAY COME UP AND HELP ME WITH SOME Q AND A HERE IN A WHILE, UH, THAT ARE HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING, REPRESENTING THE SOCCER LEAGUE.

AND THE CHURCH HAVE, UM, HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.

UH, THEY'VE TOLD ME THAT THEY'VE MET WITH THE POST PRESERVE HOA ON BOTH NOVEMBER 11TH AND DECEMBER 9TH OF LAST YEAR, UH, AND THE GORDON FARMS CONDO ASSOCIATION ON SEPTEMBER 13TH OF LAST YEAR.

AND I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PRETTY GOOD, UH, OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION.

I'M GUESSING, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF CURIOSITY AND, OR MAYBE, UH, SOME THOUGHT WE, WE DIDN'T, UH, MEET EVERYTHING THEY WANTED, BUT I DO THINK WE'VE BEEN QUITE DETAILED ON OUR OPERATIONS PLAN AND REALLY TRIED TO, TO NAIL DOWN, UH, A LOT OF COMPONENTS OF THIS FOR YOU.

AND I WANNA GO THROUGH THOSE REALLY QUICKLY.

UM, OPERATIONALLY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FIELDS AND THEIR LOCATIONS WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM OF FIVE FIELDS WITHIN A DEFINED ENVELOPE FOR THOSE TO OPERATE, UH, WHICH IS THIS HASHED AREA.

AS YOU SEE ON THE, THE SITE PLAN HERE.

UM, THE FIELDS ARE DIFFERENTLY SIZED DUE TO THE NEEDS OF DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS THAT THE SOCCER LEAGUE WILL SERVE.

UM, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT, UM, FROM YEAR TO YEAR THAT THESE MAY BE MODIFIED SLIGHTLY WITHIN THAT ENVELOPE TO MEET THE PARTICULAR NEEDS OF THE POPULATION THAT WILL BE SERVED, UH, BY THESE FIELDS.

UH, BUT, UM, THEY WILL BE STRIPED EVERY YEAR AND MAINTAINED.

AND, UM, AND, UH, HERE AGAIN, UH, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE COMMITMENTS TO SETBACKS AND WE'RE, WE'RE OPERATING WITHIN THOSE SETBACKS AND WITHIN THE SCREEN ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS HERE MOMENTARILY.

UM, AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING'S CONCERNED, THE, THE, THERE'S A FIVE FOOT TALL MOUND THERE ON THE, UM, UH, WHAT WOULD BE, I GUESS, THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE DRAWING, WHICH IS MORE OF THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE.

UH, WE ARE ENHANCING THAT WITH, UM, SIX ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTINGS.

UH, WE ARE, UM, ALSO PLANTING SOME TREES THERE IN THAT LITTLE NOTCH, IF YOU SEE THAT, THAT OPEN SPACE EXTENDING FROM THE CHURCH SITE OVER TO POST PRESERVE.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, A MIX OF, UH, A ROW OF ARBOR AND BUSHES AND SHRUBBERY, UH, THAT WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH IN CONSULTATION WITH SARAH AND HER TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, MEETING THE SPIRIT OF INTENT AND WHAT WE PROMISED TO, UH, OUR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IN TERMS OF PROVIDING ADEQUATE SCREENING, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THE AESTHETIC IS, IS A GOOD ONE IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.

AS FAR AS OPERATIONALLY, UM, REALLY THIS IS GOING TO SERVE LARGELY AS A PRAC PRACTICE, UH, FACILITY FOR, UH, THE SOCCER LEAGUE.

AND, UM, UH, DURING THE MONTHS OF MARCH THROUGH, LET'S SEE, MARCH THROUGH, WHERE ARE WE, NOVEMBER OR MARCH, THROUGH MARCH THROUGH NOVEMBER, MARCH THROUGH NOVEMBER, WE WILL HAVE, UM, THE ABILITY TO HAVE PRACTICES DURING WEEKDAYS, UH, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF FOUR 30 AND EIGHT 30 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

AND THEN FROM 9:00 PM OR 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM ON SATURDAYS.

OBVIOUSLY ON SUNDAYS, UH, THE SITE'S GONNA BE BUSY WITH OTHER ACTIVITIES, SO THERE'LL BE NO PRACTICES PERMITTED ON THOSE DAYS.

UM, DO WANNA MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH DOES WANT TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE ACTIVITIES OUT IN THESE FIELDS WHEN THEY AREN'T BEING USED FOR THOSE PRACTICES, FOR, FOR EVENTS THAT THEY WILL HAVE THAT ARE SORT OF IN FURTHERANCE OF THEIR CHURCH MISSION.

SO THIS ISN'T INTENDED TO RE TO RESTRICT THOSE ACCESSORY USES THAT MIGHT ALREADY BE ALLOWED, BUT WE ARE DOING THINGS HERE TO, UM, MAKE SURE WHEN IT IS OPERATING AS A, AS A SOCCER FIELDS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S AT TIMES THAT WHERE THE CHURCH ISN'T BEING USED SO MUCH AND, UM, WHICH WILL ENSURE ADEQUATE PARKING, FOR INSTANCE.

UM, WE ARE ALSO, UM, ASKING FOR, UH, TWO TOURNAMENTS TO BE ALLOWED PER YEAR, UH, TO BE OPERATED FROM 8:30 AM TO 8:30 PM ON TWO SATURDAYS.

UH, AND, UH, WE, WE HAVE COMMITTED THAT WE WILL NOT, UH, ENTERTAIN HAVING THOSE TOURNAMENTS UNTIL 2027 IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE NEW LANDSCAPING TO BE PLANTED AND MATURED IN ORDER TO, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THE BUFFERING THAT WE THINK THE

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RESIDENTS HAVE REQUESTED.

UM, UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE THE ABILITY TO DO FIVE SUMMER CAMPS, UM, IN THE MONTHS OF JUNE AND JULY EVERY YEAR.

AND, UM, THAT COMMITMENT'S BEEN MADE AS WELL.

PARKING AND TRAFFIC, UM, PARKING FOR THE, UH, THIS USE, WE'LL BE USING THE, UH, 288 PAVED SPACES THAT ARE ON THE CHURCH SITE HERE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE AT OFF HOURS WHEN, UH, MOST OF THE CHURCHES, UM, UH, SERVICES OR ALL OF THE CHURCH'S SERVICES AND MOST OF THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS ARE, ARE NOT BEING UNDERTAKEN, UM, DURING THE TOURNAMENTS, WHICH, UH, HERE AGAIN WILL ONLY BE TWICE PER YEAR, BEGINNING IN 27.

UH, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO HAVE AN OFF-DUTY, UH, TRAFFIC POLICE OFFICER THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, A CLEAR INDICATION TO THOSE ENTERING THE SITE THAT THIS IS WHERE THEY NEED TO PARK, AND THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE PARKING ON ADJACENT PUBLIC STREETS OR IN PRIVATE AREAS.

UH, WITHIN THE CONDO ASSOCIATION AT GORDON FARMS AND THE CONDO DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PRIVATELY OWNED, UH, UH, ROADS.

UM, IF WE CAN GET, GAIN THE PERMISSION OF THAT CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION, WE WOULD INSTALL TEMPORARY NO PARKING SIGNS.

ALSO DURING THOSE TIMES, UM, IN SPEAK, IN WORKING WITH THE CITY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY WE WOULD OTHERWISE DO IT TO, UH, CLOSE OFF PARKING OR SUGGEST NO PARKING ON A PUBLIC STREET BECAUSE OF THE VERY DEFINITION OF IT, IT'S PUBLIC.

UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNICATION PROGRAM WITH THE, UH, THE COACHES AND THE PARENTS OF THE SOCCER LEAGUE.

THAT GIVES A STRONG INDICATION TO THEM AS THEY'RE COMING TO THE SITE, THAT THEY ARE NOT TO BE PARKING OFF SITE.

AND, UM, WE HAVE COMMITTED IN OUR OPERATIONS PLAN THAT, UH, TWO VIOLATIONS AND THE TEAM WILL DISQUALIFY THEM FROM FURTHER PARTICIPATION IN THE LEAGUE.

SO THAT SHOULD BE A PRETTY, PRETTY BIG MOTIVATOR.

UM, UH, I THINK WITH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HERE AGAIN, EMPHASIZE THAT WE HAVE ZERO CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, I THINK THERE'S A COMMITMENT GIVEN THE CHURCH AND WHO THEY ARE.

UH, BRIAN HERRERA IS HERE WITH ME, ASSISTANT, UH, PASTOR THERE.

UM, THEY'RE COMMITTED AND HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, UH, WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE, THEY'RE ADJACENT TO THEM.

I DO THINK THAT THERE HAVE BEEN REQUESTS MADE AND, AND THE STAFF REPORT IS A GOOD JOB OF, UM, MAKING KIND OF FURTHER COMMITMENTS BEYOND WHAT ZONING WOULD ALLOW.

AND I THINK FOR THE, UM, THE REASONS OUTLINED WITH THE RELIGIOUS LAND USE AND INSTITUTIONALIZED PERSONS ACT FOR LUPA, AS THEY CALL IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COULD NOT CERTAINLY MANDATE THOSE THINGS.

UM, WE ARE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, AS, AS THESE USES START TO OPERATE, IF THERE ARE OPERATIONAL ISSUES, WE WILL KEEP, WE'LL KEEP REGULAR LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE ASSOCIATIONS NEAR US AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE DO WHAT WE CAN TO ADDRESS THEM AS ISSUES WOULD ARISE.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, I'M SURE WE'VE GOT A LOT TO GET TO, AND, UH, I'LL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

WE'LL GET RIGHT TO IT.

UH, THE SITE IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW.

IT IS BETWEEN POST PRESERVE AND THE GORDON FARMS NEIGHBORHOODS.

AS YOU SEE, IT'S NORTHEAST OF POST PRESERVE, BOULEVARD AND POST ROAD.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS OUR RURAL AND THE 2011 CODE, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT CODE, ALLOWS RELIGIOUS USES AS A CONDITIONAL USE ON LOTS OF GREATER THAN FIVE ACRES.

SINCE THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF AN, AN EXISTING USE, IT IS THEREFORE CONDITIONAL.

AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THE ADJACENT ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL THROUGH THE PUD PROCESSES.

ENVISION DUBLIN RECOGNIZES THE SITE AS CIVIC OR COMMUNITY, WHICH ALLOWS RECREATIONAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES.

ORIENTING US TO THE SITE.

PHOTOS ONE AND TWO SHOW THE ADJACENCY OF THE POST PRESERVE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

PHOTO THREE IS A GENERAL VIEW, LOOKING NORTH TO, UM, POST PRESERVE FOUR AND FIVE SHOW THE VEGETATED BUFFER AT GORDON FARMS AND FOUR IS ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM INSIDE THE BUFFER.

A BIT OF AN UPDATE.

THE PROJECT WAS TABLED LAST SEPTEMBER, AND SINCE THEN, AS YOU HEARD, THE APPLICANT SAY THEY HAVE MET WITH THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS.

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HAVE NOT HEARD ANY, UH, CONCERNS FROM GORDON FARMS. THE POST PRESERVE, HOA DID ENUMERATE SOME REQUESTS VIA THEIR ATTORNEY.

AND THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

THE RESPONSE FROM THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY WAS IN RED IN YOUR PACKET.

AND THEN IN THE REPORT, WE HAD THE STAFF ANALYSIS TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, VIEW ON EACH OF THOSE.

ALL REQUESTED INFORMATION HAS BEEN SUPPLIED AT THIS POINT, AND WE HEARD THE APPLICANT TALK IN DETAIL ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN ORIENTATION NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.

UH, THE CHURCH BUILDINGS ARE TO THE LEFT WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION DATES NOTED.

POST PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THEN TO THE TOP, AND GORDON FARMS IS AT THE BOTTOM.

SO WE HEARD ABOUT FIVE FIELDS WITHIN THE HATCHED AREA.

THE USAGE TIMES ARE SHOWN ON THE TABLE AND ARE IN YOUR REPORT, AND THAT WAS DESCRIBED BY THE APPLICANT.

THERE ARE SOME LANDSCAPE AREAS INDICATED HERE AROUND ALL USES.

THE SOCCER GOAL STORAGE IS BEHIND THE 2007 STRUCTURE, AND THAT HAS SCREENING THE, UH, 60 FOOT MAINTAINED ENVELOPE, IF YOU WILL, IS SHOWN WITH THAT DARK OUTLINE.

SPECTATORS WILL BE, UM, WITHIN 10 FEET OF THAT AS MONITORED BY THE APPLICANT'S ONSITE.

PARKING'S BEEN DETAILED IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE APPLICANT EXPLAINED THAT WE AS STAFF, ARE SATISFIED WITH THE PLAN AT THIS POINT.

AND WE DO FIND THAT ALL CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET AS DETAILED IN THE REPORT, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. HOLT.

UH, COMMISSIONER, WE'LL START WITH MR. CHINOOK.

UM, A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, CONSIDERATION ON, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE 288 PARKING SPACES, YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS ADEQUATE FOR A TOURNAMENT, OR YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS ADEQUATE FOR PRACTICE AND JUST GENERAL USE? 'CAUSE I GUESS THE CONCERN WOULD BE THE TWO TOURNAMENTS WHERE WE'VE ALL BEEN TO SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AND THAT DOESN'T, UH, DOES IT, I GUESS, ANSWER, DOES THAT FEEL LIKE ENOUGH SPACES FOR A TOURNAMENT? UH, MY NAME'S BRIAN HERRERA.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE PASTOR AT RADIANT LIFE CHURCH IN DUBLIN AT 7,100 POST ROAD.

UM, WE DO FEEL WE HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING TO SUSTAIN, UH, THE TOURNAMENTS AS WELL.

FEBRUARY 15TH, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE HELD A FUNERAL FOR OUR STATE SUPERINTENDENT, AND WE HAD ABOUT A THOUSAND ATTENDEES AT THAT.

UH, WE HAD MAYBE 12 OF THOSE PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE WITH THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU, YOU'LL LIKE TO AVOID STREET PARKING AND PEOPLE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE WHO, WHO I GUESS YOU SAY YOU'RE MONITORING THAT, IS THAT WE MONITOR.

WE WOULD MONITOR THAT, YES.

SO YOU WOULD TAKE, OKAY, THAT'S JOHN, THAT'S ON YOU.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD TOO, AS YOU LOOKED AT THE SITE, UM, DID YOU CONSIDER ANY KIND OF PAVED ACCESS TO THE FIELDS FROM THE PARKING LOT OR THE EXPECTATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA ALWAYS JUST WALK THROUGH THE GRASS TO GET TO, TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO? YEAH, WE DO OWN THE LOT, UH, OFF OF POST PRESERVE ROAD, JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

UH, WE HAVE THAT LOT VACANT.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD TO HAVE THAT IF WE ADDED ONTO THE BUILDING, UH, PER FIRE CODE TO HAVE THAT SECOND ACCESS.

WE DON'T PLAN ON HAVING A SECOND ACCESS.

WE DON'T BELIEVE WE, WE NEED IT.

UM, FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE AT A TOURNAMENT OR PRACTICES, IT JUST WOULDN'T EVER HIT, OR THAT WOULD SERVE AS A DROP OFF? POTENTIALLY? IT WOULD NOT.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S WHY WE ADDED SOME TREES AND THE ARBA VITA ALONG TO KIND OF ACT AS A FENCING.

UH, WE ACT, WE ASKED ABOUT PLACING FENCING, UH, TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM ENTERING, BUT IF WE PLANT A FEW TREES AND ALLOW THEM TO GROW, THAT WOULD DETER THEM, UM, FROM ACCESSING THROUGH THAT LOT.

AND THEN YOU ALL, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTAINING THE FIELDS, OBVIOUSLY, AND, UM, AND, AND STORING THE GOALS WHEN THIS IN THE OFF, I GUESS WE'LL CALL IT THE OFF SEASON, RIGHT? THOSE GOALS WILL BE REMOVED AND STORED SO THEY WON'T BE VISIBLE.

HAS IN THE PAST, UH, USED AS PRACTICE FIELDS.

UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD NOW, IS IT, ISN'T IT CURRENTLY USED FOR PRACTICE FIELDS OR NOT? OR HAS IT BEEN IN THE PAST? IT

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WE ALSO HAVE A DAYCARE IN OUR FACILITIES, SO WE, WE USE THE FIELDS OFTEN, UH, EASTER'S COMING UP.

SO WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, UPWARDS A THOUSAND TO 1500 PEOPLE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE FIELD.

SO WE'VE USED, WE'VE USED THE FIELD SINCE, UH, 2007 WHEN THE BUILDING WAS FIRST PLACE.

AND THEN, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT FORMALIZING AGREEMENT WITH DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE AND DUBLIN, I FORGET THE OTHER.

CORRECT.

THE TWO CLUBS BASICALLY WOULD BE THE ONLY CLUBS THAT ARE USING.

WE FEEL THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO MANAGE IT BY JUST HAVING ONE AND JUST STARTING THERE.

WE DON'T, WE'RE JUST KIND OF, THIS IS JUST AN IDEA, UH, THAT WE, WE PARTNERED WITH A CLUB IN INDIA ACTUALLY IN, IN, UH, G**O, THE STATE OF G**O IN THE CITY OF UMDABAD.

THIS IS, WE FELT WE COULD DO THIS SIMILAR, WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE, HERE.

AND AGAIN, JUST ADVANCE WHAT OUR, OUR IDEAS ARE.

THANK YOU, MS. CARTER.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, A COUPLE QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT A FORMAL COMPLAINT.

LIKE IF SOMEONE HAS A FORMAL COMPLAINT, DO THEY GO TO THE CITY FIRST? DOES UH, UH, NEIGHBORS AND SO FORTH DO, DO THEY COME TO YOU? YEAH, AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WE WOULD LOVE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO US FIRST.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, HANDLE ANY SITUATION IF IT GOES OUT BEYOND THAT, OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT IT TO BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, AS WELL AS FOR OURSELF.

MS. HARTER, I MIGHT ADD THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK TRYING TO OBJECTIFY A LOT OF THESE COMMITMENTS WAS TO GIVE THE CITY THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE.

AND ULTIMATELY, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT COMPLYING, IT'S, IT, IT, OR EASY CRITERIA BY WHICH A, A ZONING VIOLATION COULD BE, UM, UH, GIVEN TO US OR, OR ALLEGED, UH, THE SINCERE HOPE IS IT WON'T GET THERE.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT, UH, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE HOA CONDO ASSOCIATION, ET CETERA, AND IN THE CHURCH, I THINK THAT WILL HOPEFULLY NIPPLE LOT OF THOSE PROBLEMS IN THE BUD.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE FIRST YEAR, UH, SEVERAL TIMES, EVEN BEFORE THERE'S EVEN ANY COMMENTS, JUST TO HAVE THAT OPEN COMMUNICATION? DEFINITELY.

AND WE'VE, WE'VE SAID SUCH IN THE EIGHT IN, IN THE MEETINGS WITH THE HOA, RIGHT? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE BUILT A NICE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTION WITH THEM.

AND EVEN JUST SETTING, UH, TWO MEETINGS THAT FIRST YEAR WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE WILLING TO DO? DEFINITELY.

UM, SOMETIMES PEOPLE BRING A LOT OF THINGS TO WHEN THEY COME TO COME TO, UH, TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE TENTS, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

WOULD, WOULD YOU ALLOW THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING, AND THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, SHORT WHILE AND SO FORTH, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ABOUT TENTS.

SO WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE HAVE THE SPECTATORS, UH, WON'T BE ANYWHERE NEAR THE, THE HOUSES THEMSELVES.

SO WITHIN OUR PLAN, WE HAVE CERTAIN SECTIONS WHERE THE SPECTATORS WOULD BE, UH, WE'RE OPEN TO THE TENTS AND HAVING THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, WE'RE JUST GONNA MONITOR THAT THE FIRST YEAR.

AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK? WE CAN ELIMINATE, UH, WE WANNA TRY TO MAKE THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING US.

WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A, UH, BIG ORDEAL FOR US EITHER.

SO TENTS WOULD BE OKAY, BUT ON A FURTHER SIDE OF CORRECT, WHERE THE HOUSES ARE, AND THEN FOOD TRUCKS AREN'T ALLOWED ON THE PREMISES, BUT WHAT WOULD KEEP THEM FROM BEING ON THE ROAD? IS THAT, IS THAT ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OR, NO, WE MANAGE THAT.

UH, AGAIN, THAT'S THE NICE THING ABOUT DEALING WITH ONE CLUB.

WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT.

UH, SO WE CAN DICTATE WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE THAT, THAT WOULD BE IN AN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, WITH THE CLUB.

UH, ONE LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE RECEPTACLES.

IT, I COULDN'T TELL IF THEY WERE PERMANENT OR IF THEY WERE TEMPORARY.

AND IF THEY'RE TEMPORARY, ARE THEY THE CARDBOARD OR WHAT IS WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR RECEPTACLES WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE, YOU KNOW, AREA? YEAH, SO I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE CANS, UH, TRASH CANS, UH, METAL CANS, NOT CARDBOARD OR ANYTHING.

AND THOSE ARE REMOVED EACH TIME.

EVERY TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

I WAS PICKING UP TWO DIFFERENT, UM, THOUGHTS.

AND THEN DO YOU HAVE STAFF THAT YOU'VE HIRED THAT, THAT TAKES UP EVERYTHING AND THEN PUTS THEM AWAY? IS THAT, OR HOW IS THAT WORKING AS A CHURCH? VOLUNTEERS, THINGS OF THAT? YEAH.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS AN OUTREACH OPPORTUNITY.

SAME THING AS OUR DAYCARE.

UH, SO WE HAVE CHURCH VOLUNTEERS THAT WOULD, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THAT MYSELF, OVERSEEING THAT.

UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY HIRING A FULL-TIME MANAGER, BUT AGAIN, JUST WANNA SEE HOW THIS WORKS.

TO, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT YOU SOCCER.

YES, THANK YOU, MS. MR. ALEXANDER.

JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I'M, I'M TRYING

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UM, SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU DOING THIS ON YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT CAPACITY ON THE OTHER FIELDS IN DUBLIN FOR THIS, OR IS IT AS, IS IT SEEN AS AN EXTENSION OF YOUR MINISTRY? DEFINITELY A, AN EXTENSION OF OUR MINISTRY.

UM, I THINK I CAN SAY THIS, BUT INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULDN'T ATTEND A SERVICE ON A SUNDAY OR A WEDNESDAY, UH, CHURCHES TO OUTREACH, GET OUTSIDE OF THE WALLS AND SPREAD THE, IS WHAT WE'RE CALLED TO DO.

UH, THOSE THAT WOULDN'T ATTEND A SERVICE ON A SUNDAY OR A WEDNESDAY, WE GET 'EM ON THE PROPERTY, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM, AND AREN'T ABLE TO SHARE THE GOSPEL THAT WAY.

SO IT'S OPEN TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY A MEMBER OF YOUR CONGREGATION? CORRECT.

UM, IS THIS, IS, IS, ARE YOUR FIELDS LIMIT? I, I KNOW THERE'S NO FENCING, BUT SO IF NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS OTHER HOURS STRAY AND THEY COULD PLAY IN THEIR FIELDS? THEY DO NOW.

ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.

I, I WAS LOOKING AT OUR BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING CODE TODAY, AND THE LARGEST BUFFER I COULD FIND WAS 20 FEET, AND THAT WAS ADJACENT TO A HIGHWAY.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHERE WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL ZONE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE OF WHAT IS THE RIGHT BUFFER, WHAT IS THE RIGHT PROCESS.

NO, I, I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST WANTED, YEAH, MAKE SOME AWARENESS OF THAT.

SURE.

THANK YOU, MR. DESLER.

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

UM, SO CURRENTLY YOU HAD SAID THAT THE FIELDS ARE, THERE'S NO GOALS OR ANYTHING OUT THERE NOW, OR THERE MAY BE, ARE THERE GOALS OUT THERE? THERE IS, UH, ONE GOAL.

ONE GOAL.

AND YOU, YOU ARE GENERALLY USING THAT, THAT FIELD AREA FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE MINISTRY, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND NOW WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE I WOULD IMAGINE I, THIS IS WHAT I'M KIND OF UNCLEAR ABOUT.

YOU SAID YOU'RE, YOU, YOU HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A CLUB, OR THEY'RE, ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE? IS THAT THE, THEY CAN BE WORKING.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE.

UH, JUST A SECOND PART ON YOUR QUESTION.

UH, IS IT, UH, JUST AN OUTREACH OPPORTUNITY, BUT ALSO FIELD SPACE IS LIMITED, UH, FOR THE CLUB IN THE DUBLIN AREA? JUST BECAUSE SOCCER IS A, IS A POPULAR SPORT.

UM, HAVE YOU, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING TO MONETIZE THE, THE SPACE THEN, IS THAT FAIR? I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA BE CHARGING DOUBLE IN SOCCER LEAGUE FOR THE, THE LEASE OF THAT? CORRECT.

ARE, ARE YOU, I'M, SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, AND I I'M GONNA ASK POTENTIALLY ABOUT CONTRACTUAL DETAILS 'CAUSE I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IT.

WHO'S GONNA BE MAINTAINING THAT AREA? IS THAT GONNA BE THE OBLIGATION OF THE LANDLORD OR IS THAT GONNA BE THE LESSEE? THE LESSEE.

UH, YES.

HOW ARE THEY HANDLING? THERE'S NO IRRIGATION BACK THERE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO.

IS THERE A CONSIDERATION TO PUT IRRIGATION BACK THERE? NOT AT THIS TIME.

YOU'RE AWARE THAT I THINK DARI AND AVERY FIELDS DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE AND IRRIGATION.

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES.

SO, AND THIS IS GONNA BE ONLY USED FOR PRACTICES.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED FOR ANY GAMES ON SATURDAYS OR SUNDAYS.

UH, WITH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO TIMES A YEAR WHERE THE TOURNAMENTS WILL BE NO GAMES, AND WE'VE MADE THAT COMMITMENT.

I'M CURIOUS HERE FOR A SECOND WHERE, AND THIS IS JUST KNOWING THIS AREA AND KNOWING DSL PRETTY WELL, WHERE ARE YOU, WHERE ARE THE BATHROOMS AND WHAT BUILDING ARE THOSE BATHROOMS IN? I'M CURIOUS.

SO THE BUILDING, UH, THE, THE 2007 BUILDING, UH, THERE IS AN ACCESS DOOR ON THE REAR OF THAT BUILDING.

THERE ARE TWO RESTROOMS THERE.

UM, ON THE, IT WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING OF THE 2007 BUILDING.

UH, IF YOU GO TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING, THERE ARE, UH, TWO LARGER RESTROOMS. MALE, FEMALE WITH I WOULD SAY, UH, SIX FEMALE AND, UM, SEVEN MALE OR FIVE, SIX MALE RESTROOMS. AND THE 2017 BUILDING, THERE ARE, I WOULD SAY EIGHT TO 10 FEMALE AND FIVE TO SEVEN MALE IN THAT RESTROOM OR IN, AND THIS IS ALL IN THE, THIS IS THE, YOU SAID IN THE 17 BUILDING? CORRECT.

IS THERE GONNA BE THEN AN ATTENDANT LIKE MONITORING? IS THERE GONNA BE A CUS I DUNNO, A CUSTODIAN OR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S GONNA BE THEN STAYING HOURS ON THESE DAYS? YES.

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HAVE YOU DONE ANY KIND OF, UM, GEOTECHNICAL LIKE DRAINAGE STUDY, GOING BACK TO THE FIELD PIECE TO KNOWING HOW THAT'S GONNA BE DONE? I GUESS, LEMME ASK THIS.

IT'S MAINTAINED NOW.

PROBABLY JUST MOWED A COUPLE, COUPLE TIMES IN THE SUMMER.

SO WHAT WE DID, WE, UM, WITHIN WHAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO DO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF GRADING IS THE RIGHT WORD, BUT JUST KINDA LEVELED IT OUT SO WE COULD MAINTAIN IT.

AND WE DID PLANT, UH, SPORTS GRASS IN THE AREAS OF THE, OF THE SOCCER FIELDS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT.

I GUESS, LEMME GO BACK AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY KIND OF GEOTECHNICAL STUDY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL ALTERATION OF THE USE OF THAT AREA TO WHAT, WHERE THAT COULD IMPACT ANYTHING? UM, I DON'T, IT'S SARAH, IS THAT REQUIRED? UM, IT'S NOT 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY CHANGING THE USE HERE FROM RESIDENTIAL OR WHATEVER IT WAS TO COMMERCIAL.

IT'S GONNA BE COMMERCIAL USE NOW, BUT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE IMPERVIOUS IMPERIOUSNESS OF THE SURFACE.

I'LL LET SOMEBODY FROM ENGINEERING TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AMONGST STAFF AND THERE ARE NO STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

ARE YOU DEFERRING THEN TO DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE RELATIVE TO THE USE IF POTENTIALLY THERE'S A RAINSTORM AND HOW THAT WORKS FROM A PRACTICE PERSPECTIVE? ARE THEY GOVERNING THAT COMMUNICATION FOR YOU? CORRECT.

IT, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO TEAR UP THE FIELDS 'CAUSE THEN THEY CAN'T USE 'EM, SO IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO GO ON THERE.

UM, SARAH, I CAN'T REMEMBER ON THIS POINT IS THAT, IS THERE A LEFT TURN LANE COMING OUT ON, ON POST THERE? LIKE IF YOU'RE COMING IN FROM, UM, THE OTHER POST, I KNOW THE OTHER WHERE IT CONNECTS OR PERIMETER.

YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

THERE'S A LEFT TURN LANE'S INTO THE CHURCH PARKING.

I COULDN'T REMEMBER.

IS THE, IS THE THOUGHT RIGHT NOW, I GUESS BECAUSE I'M GONNA HOLD THAT QUESTION, SARAH.

IF WE PASS THIS THROUGH THE, THE, THE USE, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING THESE CERTAIN TIMEFRAMES, RIGHT? CORRECT.

BUT IN REALITY, THE CITY HAS NO ENFORCEMENT ON THAT.

ONCE WE PASS THE USE OR CAN WE DICTATE CONDITIONS SPECIFIC TO THE USE? THE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE NARRATIVE BECOME THE CONDITIONS AND THAT IS WHAT IS ENFORCEABLE THROUGH OUR NORMAL CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

THEY BECOME ZONING COMMITMENTS.

AND I GUESS I, YOU KNOW, I, I REVIEWED, IS THERE ANYTHING TO PREVENT, LEMME ASK THE APPLICANT THIS.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A POTENTIAL CONTRACT WITH DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE, YOU KNOW, FIELD SPACE.

WHILE THERE IS A LOT OF IT WITHIN DUBLIN, UH, IT'S BEING USED UP VERY QUICKLY.

AND SO HOW DO, WHAT'S YOUR OUTLOOK IF YOU ARE APPROACHED IN THE FUTURE SAYING, HEY, WELL THERE'S FIELD SPACE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU KNOW, CAN WE USE IT ON DIFFERENT TIMES AND DIFFERENT DAYS? HOW, HOW'S THAT GONNA BE ADDRESSED? WELL, I THINK WITH THE COMMITMENTS WE'VE MADE HERE, WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL BECAUSE, UM, WE'VE MADE, WE'VE MADE THE COMMITMENTS.

SO FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WORK WITH STAFF AND GET AN APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TO SEE IF YOU'D, UM, YOU'D AGREE.

UM, THE SECOND THING IS WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW, UM, LEASING FOR ANOTHER TYPE OF USE, LIKE LET'S SAY LACROSSE.

UM, SO THIS IS STRICTLY RELATED TO SOCCER.

WE, WE HOPE IT'S WITH THE DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE.

AND FOR A LONG TIME, COULD IT BE ANOTHER, UM, SOCCER GROUP AT SOME POINT MAYBE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS.

THESE, THESE GO, THESE COMMITMENTS GO WITH THE USE AND NOT THE USER.

WITH IS THE EXPECTATION.

THEN DURING THE SEASON, YOU'LL PROBABLY LEAVE THE GOALS OUT WITHIN THE DESIGNATED AREA ON THE FIELDS.

IS THAT FAIR? YES.

SOME OF THIS ATTRACTIVE TYPE THING TO, WELL, IT'S NOT A NUISANCE, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE KIDS COULD GO PLAY ON.

AND I KNOW THAT KIDS MAY USE THE AREA NOW, BUT THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I'LL DESCRIBE AS, UM, THIS, I THINK I SAID IN THE LAST TIME,

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WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE THEN OF, UH, OTHER INDIVIDUALS? I'M NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE THAT EVEN LIVE AROUND, UM, THE FIELD AREA, BUT SOMEBODY PULLS UP BECAUSE WE'RE ON PRIVATE LAND NOW, IT'S DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE GONNA START USING THE FIELD.

WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR, FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE, YOUR ENFORCEMENT OF, OF THAT NOT OCCURRING? HOW'S THAT GONNA BE MONITORED? YEAH.

UM, WE TRY TO BE FRIENDLY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE HAVE PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS, PARKING IN OUR PARKING LOT, LETTING THEIR DOGS RUN AROUND.

UH, WE HAVE KIDS OUT THERE PLAYING, UH, SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS THAT, UH, THAT LIVE ALONG THE EDGE OF THE FIELD HITTING GOLF BALLS OUT AND PUTTING FLAGS IN IT.

UH, JUST TRYING TO BE GOOD IN THAT SENSE.

UM, THERE ISN'T A, A PLAN TO, UH, REGULATE THAT AT THIS POINT.

JUST WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T KNOW.

UH, WHEN WE GET TO A POINT OF IF, IF THE HOA IS SEEING MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE USE THAN THEY WOULD LIKE OUTSIDE OF WHAT OUR TIMES ARE OR WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, THEN THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION AND WE CAN REGULATE IT THAT WAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

THAT, THAT, THAT LEADS ME TO SOMETHING ELSE I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT NOW, AND IT JUST SPARKED, IT, IT, HOW THEN ARE YOU GONNA ENFORCE THE ADJACENT HOME HOMEOWNERS FROM NOT USING THAT LAND? BECAUSE YOU MAY POTENTIALLY HAVE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION FROM DSL SAYING THAT YOU GOTTA KEEP THOSE FIELDS IN CONDITION THAT ARE UNUSED.

HOW ARE YOU GONNA MAINTAIN THAT SECURITY PIECE? YEAH, IT'S, UH, WE'LL, WHEN WE HIT THAT MARK, IF, IF THERE ARE ISSUES, UM, I DON'T HAVE A, A GOOD RESPONSE OTHER THAN WE'LL CROSS THAT WHEN WE NEED TO.

I THINK I'M GOOD FOR NOW.

THANK YOU MR. DESLER.

MR. GARVIN, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROPOSAL.

UM, I GUESS FIRST, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE INDOOR RESTROOMS. YOU GUYS ARE COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH NO PORTA POTTIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE SITE.

GREAT.

UM, I NOTICED THE RESPONSE TO USING A MAXIMUM OF TWO FIELDS AT ONCE IS THAT IT WOULDN'T BE TENABLE FOR YOU GUYS.

WHAT, UH, WHAT USAGE WOULD YOU SEE AS THE MAXIMUM? WOULD YOU SEE ALL FIVE FIELDS BEING USED AT ONCE? UH, I BELIEVE FIVE.

MAYBE DURING TOURNAMENTS OR, OR PRACTICES AS WELL.

WE WANNA BE ABLE TO ROTATE, UH, THROUGHOUT THOSE FIELDS SO WE'RE NOT TEARING UP THE FIELDS, UH, BASED ON WEATHER CONDITIONS OR JUST OVERUSE.

A GREEN AREA BETWEEN 2007 BUILDING AND THE EAST SIDE OF THAT DRIVE.

AND YOU'D HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO REORIENT 'EM.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A FEW KIND OF SAMPLE SIZES HERE.

I GUESS I'M WONDERING HOW VITAL THAT FIELD ONE IS TO THE PLAN, GIVEN HOW MUCH IT COULD POTENTIALLY SOLVE IN TERMS OF CONCERNS FOR NEIGHBORS, UM, BY CREATING A LITTLE MORE BUFFER ZONE, MORE AREA FOR FANS TO STAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW THAT RELATES TO YOUR CONTRACT OR POTENTIAL CONTRACT WITH DSX AND DSL.

CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHT? IS THAT A REQUIRED NUMBER OF FIELDS FOR YOU? I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE NUMBERED FIELDS.

IF IT, IF IS THE ONE THE FARTHEST NORTH OR THE FARTHEST WEST? SO THE FARTHEST NORTH FARTHEST WEST, I BELIEVE? YEAH.

SO TOP OF THIS PAGE, I BELIEVE THE BUFFER RIGHT NOW IS 60 FEET ON THAT AND WHERE THE SPECTATORS WOULD BE, WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT FIELD.

SO WE'VE PUT A SCREENING TO ALLOW TO KEEP ANY, UH, PEOPLE DETER ANY PEOPLE OR ANY THE BALLS OUT FROM GETTING ONTO THAT.

WE FEEL THAT'S IN, WE'RE GOING BY WHAT THE CITY HAS, UH, ASKED US TO.

UM, WE HAVE THE SPACE WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT.

THE FIVE FIELDS I THINK WE HAVE, WE INITIALLY STARTED OFF WITH THE 11 FIELDS WITHIN THAT SAME PARAMETER.

UH, AND WE'D REDUCED IT BASED ON THE NEEDS OF, UM, WHAT WE'VE IN CONVERSATION WITH DSX, THE THOUSAND 7 MILLION STORAGE, LIKE THAT, THAT, UM, IS THAT LIKE A LOADING DOCK? WHAT'S THE USAGE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW? YEAH, SO IF YOU NOTICE ON THE 2007 BUILDING ON THE NORTH, UH, SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THE NORTHEAST, THERE IS A DRIVE THAT GOES BACK TO THE, UH, NORTH PARKING LOT BEHIND 2007.

THAT IS, UH, WHERE WE HAVE FOOD DROP OFF WHERE THE DAYCARE, UM, BUT THERE IS A,

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I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HOW MUCH, BUT THERE'S MAYBE THE WIDTH OF THIS BUILDING.

SURE, SURE.

OR THIS ROOM REASON I BRING THAT UP IS, UM, I KNOW SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE READ FROM PUBLIC COMMENT HAVE TO DO WITH PEOPLE TAKING A NATURAL SHORTCUT THROUGH, UH, OTHER ACCESS AREAS.

UM, I JUST WONDER IF THERE MIGHT BE A SIMPLE WAY TO, UH, PROVIDE PARKING THERE FOR GAME DAYS THAT MIGHT MAKE THAT A MORE ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO PARK.

AT LEAST GET PEOPLE INTO THAT LOT.

AND THEN I DON'T THINK THEY'D BE LEAVING TO GO AROUND OTHER STREETS.

BUT, UM, I GUESS THAT'S MORE OF A THOUGHT THAN, UM, SO THE MOUNDING THAT, UH, GOES ALONG THIS AREA SAID ALREADY EXISTS, UM, ON THE NORTH, UM, SORRY, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LOCATION.

UM, IT ENDS WHERE THAT OTHER FIELD, FIELD ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, DID YOU SAY THAT THAT, UH, PATH BETWEEN THOSE HOUSES IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY RLC, THE, UH, JUST WEST OF THE FIELD ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE? YES.

I THINK THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S A SPACE WHERE THREE TREES ARE YEAH.

BETWEEN THE HOUSING, YES.

THAT'S OWNED BY AND THERE'S NO PATH THAT'S RIGHT NOW IN NATURAL STATE.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

THANK YOU, MR. GARVIN.

UM, I HAD A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, I, I WONDER WHAT CAME FIRST, THE LAYOUT OF THE FIELDS OR THE ZONE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.

COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? SORRY.

SO THERE'S THE FIVE FIELDS, AND THEN THERE'S A ZONE IDENTIFIED AS THE PLAYING FIELD ENVELOPE.

UM, WHAT CAME FIRST? THE FIELD LAYOUT OR THE ENVELOPE YEAH.

THE FIELD LAYOUT TO BE ABLE TO, WE HAD, WE HAVE MORE SPACE, UH, IN THE FIELD OR MORE SOCCER FIELDS, MORE PLAYING SPACE.

UH, WE, IT STARTED SHRINKING.

THE PLAYING THE, THE FIELD ITSELF STARTED SHRINKING AS WE WERE WORKING, UM, WITH THE CITY AS FAR AS THE BUFFER, THE DISTANCE FROM THE HOUSING.

THEN WE JUST WORKED INSIDE THAT FOR THE FIELD LAYOUTS.

SO THE FIELD LAYOUTS AS, AS WAS STATED, THEY CAN CHANGE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON AGE GROUPS OF KIDS.

AND AGAIN, IF, IF, IF THEY'RE OVERUSING THE FIELD ON ONE FIELD, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE A, USE A DIFFERENT AREA.

SO, SO BY APPRO, IF WE APPROVE THIS PLAN, THEN THAT'S APPROV THIS AREA AS KIND OF THE AREA THAT SOCCER CAN OCCUR IN, UM, THE 60 FOOT BUFFER, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS IT DIDN'T.

FROM THE CITY, FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I JUST WONDERED IF IT WAS MY RECOLLECTION IS, I, I THINK WE MAY HAVE PROPOSED SOMETHING LESS AND I THINK, UM, IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY AND TRYING TO, AND, AND I'LL LET SARAH SPEAK, BUT, UM, UH, AND ACCOMMODATING THE PLANTINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO, UM, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER WE ARRIVED AT.

AND I, I DO THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK THE POINT WAS RAISED EARLIER ABOUT THE MINIMUM SETBACKS IN OTHER INSTANCES, UM, DOES EXCEED, UM, A LOT OF THOSE MINIMUMS IN, IN, UH, OTHER DISTRICTS.

BUT IT'S, IT'S SORT OF ARBITRARY.

UH, IT'S AT THIS POINT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LIKE 60 FEET SEEMED RIGHT, KIND OF.

MS. HOLT, DO YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT OR ? MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT WE KNEW THAT THE APPLICANT WANTED THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE FIELDS AROUND.

AND SO THE REQUEST WAS GIVE US AN ENVELOPE WITHIN WHICH YOU CAN MOVE FIELDS SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM AREA THAT CAN BE USED, AND IT CAN BE MEASURED AND IT CAN BE COUNTED UPON.

SO THE 60 FEET WASN'T DICTATED PER SE, BUT IT WAS HOW DO WE CREATE SOMETHING THAT GIVES SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT IS ALSO MEASURABLE? SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A NUMBER THAT COULD BE, COULD FLUCTUATE AGAIN, POTENTIALLY THE SETBACK DOES NOT, THE ENVELOPE DOES NOT.

SO THAT BOUNDARY DOES NOT, BUT THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE FIELDS WITHIN MAY, BUT THE BOUNDARY COULD GET SMALLER IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION OF FIELDS AND YOU COULD SHRINK IT TO BATCH THAT.

SO I IT COULD, IT COULD NEVER GET BIGGER.

BUT IT COULD GET SMALLER.

UM,

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SO THE FIVE FIELDS, UM, YOU HAVE TWO OF ONE KIND, TWO OF ANOTHER AND, AND A AND A LARGE ONE.

IT, AND THAT'S BEING DICTATED BY THE SOCCER FOLKS? CORRECT.

AND THOSE ARE, AND THOSE DIMENSIONS, DO THEY GO WITH A PARTICULAR AGE GROUP IN THE SIZE FIELD THAT THEY PLAY ON? IS THAT HOW THEY YES, YES.

AND, AND SO, SO THOSE FIELD DIMENSIONS WOULD BE A FIX THAT, THAT'S THE FIELD, BUT THEY, BUT WHAT YOU SAID IS THEY COULD MOVE AROUND.

UM, THE TWO FIELDS ON THE, THE NORTH SIDE ACTUALLY ARE ORIENTED THE WRONG WAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA PLAY INTO THE SUN.

SO THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE, AGAIN, PER PART OF THE GAME, , SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE, HAVE THE SUN IN THEIR EYES.

UM, DID THEY HAVE ANY, DID THE SOCCER FOLKS HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT OR DO THEY, IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY WORKED THROUGH? NO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ALONGSIDE WITH THEM ON THE LAYOUT, AND I THINK THAT WAS TO HELP FROM ANY, UH, ANY LOOSE BALLS GOING, UM, INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THERE ARE FIVE, UM, SOCCER FIELDS.

UM, ONE OTHER COMMENT.

SO MR. RO, YOU WROTE, UM, UH, LET ME REPHRASE THAT, THAT HOA SUBMITTED A LETTER STATING THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.

MR. UNDERHILL, YOU REPLIED TO THAT.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE HOA SINCE YOU PROVIDED YOUR FEEDBACK ON THEIR REQUESTS? I'LL LEAVE THAT TO BRIAN.

YEAH, SO I THINK THE LAST EMAIL THAT I SENT TO THE HOA WAS JUST KIND OF OUR FINAL, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING TO DO WAS, UH, YESTERDAY, AND IT WAS BASED ON, UM, SARAH HOLT'S EMAIL, I THINK MONDAY OR TUESDAY THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.

AND IN OUR LAST MEETING WITH THE HOA, WE HAD STATED THAT WE WOULD SEND WHEN WE, WE GOT OUR FINAL LAYOUT OR WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING AFTER MEETING WITH THE CITY, THAT WE WOULD SEND IT TO THEM.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY FEEDBACK.

I DON'T HAVE ANY.

I'D HAVE, I'M SURE, GET MY EMAIL, BUT I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING.

I'M SURE WE'LL MAYBE HEAR SOME TONIGHT.

SO, UM, THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.

DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD ONE REAL QUICK ONE ABOUT TEMPORARY SIGNAGE DURING THE TOURNAMENTS.

WILL THAT GO WITH INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS? I, YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT SO THE TEMPORARY NO PARKING SIGNAGE.

WE, WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO IF THE, UM, WHERE I THINK IT'S THE GORDON FARMS, IT'S THE CONDO WITH, WITH THE PRIVATE ROADS, PRIVATELY OWNED ROADS.

UM, IF THEY'LL GIVE US PERMISSION TO DO SO, WE WOULD INSTALL THOSE SIGNS TEMPORARILY AND IMMEDIATELY UPON THE TOURNAMENT, UM, CONCLUDING WE, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE ONE DAY WE'D, WE'D REMOVE THEM.

UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE LIKE, POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD TO OTHER PUBLIC STREETS, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY AS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO LIMIT PARKING ON THOSE STREETS.

THAT'S A CITY FUNCTION.

AND, UM, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T DO THAT.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS.

AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS, OKAY.

I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND INVITE THE PUBLIC TO COME UP AND ADDRESS US.

THE MICROPHONE IS ON REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE RULE AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

UH, THANK YOU MR. UH, CHAIRMAN.

MY NAME'S RON O'BRIEN.

MY ADDRESS IS 8,000, UH, WALTON, UH, PARKWAY, NEW ALBANY, OHIO, 4 3 0 5 4.

AND I, UH, REPRESENT THE 21 PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, LITERALLY.

AND WE IN THESE DEVELOPMENT KIND OF CASES HERE ABOUT, NOT IN MY BACKYARD, BUT THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT THIS CONDITIONAL USE WOULD PERMIT WITHIN.

AS YOU JUST INDICATED, 60 FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE 21 PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, THE SOCCER, UH, PRACTICE, SOCCER TOURNAMENT, AND THE, UH, SUMMER, UM, PLANS THAT THEY HAVE.

AND MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE.

IT'S NOT A CHURCH USE, IT'S NOT AN ACCESSORY USE.

THERE WILL BE THIS LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT TONIGHT.

THERE WILL BE FEES CHARGED.

AND THE DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE, I COME TO FIND OUT MERELY OFF OF THEIR WEBSITE, THEY HAVE 200 TEAMS, 2000 PARTICIPANTS IN THAT LEAGUE.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE ARE NO LIMITS TO THE NUMBER OF PRACTICES THAT MAY BE HELD BACK THERE.

THE CAMPS IN THE SUMMER, AND A PARTICULAR CONCERN TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE THESE TOURNAMENTS.

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AND IF WE SAY A SOCCER GAME, EVEN IF WE SAY IS ONLY GONNA TAKE, UM, TWO HOURS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO TEAMS OUT THERE FOR TWO HOURS.

THEY'RE PERMITTED TO DO IT FOR A PERIOD OF 12 HOURS.

SO THAT'S 12 TEAMS ON ONE FIELD TIMES FIVE 60 TEAMS COULD BE PART OF A TOURNAMENT ON TWO SATURDAYS DURING THE YEAR WITHOUT COMING BACK TO YOU, WITHOUT TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS EVER AGAIN, WITHOUT TALKING TO MS. HOLD AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE 60 TEAMS, TWO, UH, WEEKENDS, UH, UH, STARTING IN 2027 WITH NOTHING FURTHER.

UH, UH, THE CHURCH IS GIVEN TO THE DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE, A BLANK CHECK, UH, TO RUN THOSE TOURNAMENTS.

AND WITH MOTHERS, FATHERS, SISTERS, BROTHERS, GRANDMOTHERS, GRANDFATHERS ATTENDING THESE GAMES.

UH, UH, THERE WILL BE A TRAFFIC DISASTER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THERE'S NO PARKING ON, UH, THE, UH, POST PRESERVE ROAD UP ON SPRING HILL.

THERE'S LIMITED PARKING.

AND, UH, ONE POLICE OFFICER AT THE ENTRANCE ON POST ROAD IS NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING FOR, UH, FOR PARKING.

AND SO RESIDENTS WILL BE OVERBURDENING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE A, UH, UH, THE PARTICIPATING COMMUNITIES AT THE LAST DUB DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUE, UM, UH, TOURNAMENT LAST FALL.

UH, CANAL, WINCHESTER CARDINGTON, SANBERG, UH, KAHAN GROVE CITY, GRANDVILLE, HIGHLAND, JOHNSTOWN, NEW ALBANY NORTHRIDGE, PATAS, REYNOLDSBURG, TAS VALLEY.

AND, AND THAT'S NOT ALL OF 'EM.

SO THAT ON TWO DAYS, UH, UH, YOU'RE GIVEN A BLANK CHECK TO DO, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORS OR YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM TONIGHT, AND I SEE THE, UH, UH, RED LIGHT FLASHING NEIGHBORS YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM TONIGHT ARE GONNA EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

AND I HAVE HERE TO PRESENT, IF I COULD, TO THE COMMISSION, UM, PETITION SIGNED BY 1300 RESIDENTS IN THE GENERAL AREA THAT IDENTIFY THE, UH, FACTORS THAT ARE IN YOUR CODE THAT SAYS, WHEN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOULD BE GRANTED, UH, STARTING WITH DUST DISRUPTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SAFETY, TRAFFIC CONGESTION, PROPERTY VALUES, UH, UH, TRASH NOISE, POLLUTION, UH, SANITATION ISSUES.

UH, AND IF YOU HAVE THE KIND OF PEOPLE ATTENDING A TOURNAMENT THAT W WOULD BE POTENTIALLY, UH, LIKELY, UH, SEVEN RESTROOMS, UH, IN, IN THE CHURCH BUILDING 200 YARDS AWAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE URINATING IN THE VEG VEGETATION THAT IS INSUFFICIENT.

UH, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS BELIEVE, UH, FOR, UH, PROPER SCREENING, THE CITY ITSELF.

AND AS I SAT HERE, UH, UH, WHEN THE BOGEY, UH, PRESENTATION WAS MADE, I WENT TO GOOGLE MAP AND THE CITY ITSELF AT AVERY PARK SCREAMS BETTER THAN IS BEING DONE HERE WITH RESIDENTS 50, UH, FEET AWAY.

UH, AND IT SHOWED ON, UH, I NOTED THE STREETS, UH, UH, WHETHER IT WAS TULLY MOORE DRIVE, UH, MCCREE LANE, OR NORTHSHORE COURT.

UH, THE SCREENING IS THREE TIMES MORE THAN WHAT IS, UH, BEING PROPOSED BY, UH, THEM AND APPROVED APPARENTLY BY THE CITY TONIGHT.

SO, UH, STANDING ON, UH, SOME OF THESE FOLKS, UH, BACKYARD TONIGHT BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE TONIGHT, UH, LITERALLY FROM MY DISTANCE TO YOU IS WHERE THEY WILL HAVE A LARGE CROWD OF, UH, RELATIVES ATTENDING A SOCCER TOURNAMENT.

AND AT LEAST I THINK, UH, THIS COMMISSION SHOULD NOT GIVE A BLANK CHECK FOR TOURNAMENTS.

AND, UM, YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE OTHER RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER, OTHER POINTS.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DEFER QUESTIONS FROM ME UNTIL THEY SPEAK, UH, UH, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE, UH, UH, OR ANY OTHER, UH, MATTERS THAT WERE RAISED IN THE, UH, APPLICATION.

AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, BOTH MR. BOS AND, UH, MS. HOYT FOR HOLT, UH, FOR, UH, HELPING COMMUNICATE WITH US AND, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND ALSO, UH, UH, WE DID MEET, UH, WITH A PASTOR, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES.

HE'S BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING.

IT'S JUST THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED USE, UH, TO MONETIZE THEIR, THEIR BACK 40 IS INCONSISTENT WITH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. O'BRIEN.

UH, SHOULD WE, MR SHOULD WE TAKE ALL QUESTIONS AND PERHAPS, OR ALL COMMENTS AND THEN COME BACK TO ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO NOTE THAT, WELL, I'LL NOTE TWO THINGS.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, WE DO, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE GRATITUDE EXPRESSED BY MR. O'BRIEN, BUT WE DO, UM, FROM CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE, AND MY PERSPECTIVE, ALWAYS WORK WITH APPLICANTS IN ANY APPLICATION AFFECTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO TRY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO THE TABLE.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

UH, SECONDLY, UNDER

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THE SORT OF ORDER OF PROCEEDINGS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWS, GENERALLY, WE DO TAKE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THERE'S NOT GENERALLY QUESTIONS THEN OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, TO THAT COMMENT.

UM, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, GENERALLY, THE COMMISSION'S PRACTICE IS TO CLOSE THE SORT OF FACT FINDING, UH, INQUIRY PART OF THE HEARING, AND THEN MOVE ON TO DELIBERATION.

THANK YOU MR. BOX FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. O'BRIEN.

HEY, THA, I HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK.

SO, UM, WE HAD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I KNOW JENNY SENT ONE JUST RECENTLY.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THEM.

IS THERE SOMETHING WHERE, JUST THINKING HERE WITH, AND I, I WANNA MAKE SURE, IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN, IS THERE STILL AN ALLOWANCE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SUPPLIED A WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT TO THEN FOLLOW UP ON A SPEAKING PUBLIC COMMENT, OR IF THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN A COMMENT? I GET THAT ALREADY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ANY PERSON WHO HAS SUBMITTED A WRITTEN COMMENT CAN COME UP IF THEY'RE HERE AND PROVIDE LIVE ORAL COMMENT.

NEXT, THE MICROPHONE IS ON.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS DIVA SONY.

UM, AND I LIVE AT 69 80 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

SO I'M HERE TODAY AS A RESIDENT OF POST PRESERVE.

I LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 18 YEARS, SINCE BEFORE I EVEN KNEW WHAT THE WORD COMMUNITY MEANT.

I GREW UP HERE, MY CHILDHOOD WAS HERE, AND ALL OF MY FAVORITE MEMORIES TOOK PLACE IN MY BACKYARD.

EITHER I WAS RUNNING AROUND PLAYING ON MY SWING SET WITH FRIENDS AND OR BIKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M HERE TODAY, STRONGLY OPPOSING RADIANT LIFE CHURCH'S REQUEST.

IF GROWING UP MY HOUSE HAD HAD SOCCER FIELDS PRACTICALLY IN MY BACKYARD, I DON'T THINK I WOULD'VE MADE A LOT OF THOSE MEMORIES.

WOULD MY PARENTS HAVE LET ME RUN AROUND? IF ONLY A FEW YARDS AWAY, DOZENS OF STRANGERS WERE THERE.

IF THE STREETS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE WERE BOMBARDED BY TRAFFIC DURING TOURNAMENTS, WOULD I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAFELY BIKE AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD? WOULD MY FAMILY HAVE SPENT EVENINGS TOGETHER ON OUR PATIO, OR WOULD WE HAVE BEEN FORCED INSIDE BY THE NOISE THAT NINE TREES COULD NE DEFINITELY NOT HAVE, UM, CANCELED THOSE HOURS, FOUR TO EIGHT 30 THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED.

THAT'S WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMES ALIVE.

THAT'S WHEN KIDS ARE PLAYING OUTSIDE, FAMILIES ARE HOLDING GET TOGETHERS, AND THEY'RE TAKING WALKS.

THAT TIME WOULD BE COMPLETELY CHANGED.

IF THIS PLAN WERE TO GO THROUGH, WOULD WE ONLY BE ALLOWED PEACE, QUIET, AND TIME SPENT CONNECTING AS A COMMUNITY DURING WORK HOURS OR AFTER IT'S ALREADY DARK? THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S A COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES WHERE PEOPLE GROW UP AND GROW OLD TOGETHER.

ULTIMATELY, THIS PLAN WOULD SERVE AS NOTHING BUT A DETRIMENT TO ALL OF THOSE FAMILIES AS ATTESTED TO BY THE PAGES OF SIGNATURES WE HAVE FROM RESIDENTS, ALL IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PLAN, ALONG WITH THE DOZENS OF RESIDENTS WE HAVE HERE TODAY, SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PLAN.

AND YET THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, NOBODY IS BOTHERED TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THOSE FAMILIES.

I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER, THAT THERE'S BEEN A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND RAID LIFE CHURCH IS A GROSS MISREPRESENTATION.

AGAIN, THERE'S A REASON WHY SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE HOA AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE HERE TODAY.

ME AND MY SISTER, WE ALSO GREW UP PLAYING SOCCER, AND WE PLAYED IT JUST A MILE AWAY.

WE DIDN'T NEED IT TO BE IN OUR BACKYARD.

IT WAS ABSOLUTELY CLOSE ENOUGH.

THAT'S WHAT AVERY IS FOR.

THAT'S WHAT DARI IS FOR.

AND THAT'S WHAT $44 MILLION OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY IS GOING TOWARD, EXPANDING THE SPACE FOR, THAT'S NOT WHAT MY FAMILY'S BACKYARD IS MEANT FOR.

NOT ONLY WILL THIS PLAN REDUCE PROPERTY VALUES, IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY DURING TOURNAMENTS, AND IT'LL INCREASE NOISE, WHICH AGAIN, THOSE BUSHES AND THOSE FEW TREES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COUNTER.

BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, IT WILL DESTROY THE CHARACTER OF THIS CLOSE-KNIT COMMUNITY, IRREPARABLY DAMAGING THE PLACE I CALL HOME.

THE MICROPHONE IS ON.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

UH, MY NAME IS SHADA , AND I LIVE ON 6 9 4 0

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POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

THE FIRST LOT NEAR THAT, UH, TREE, THREE TREES, IT'S GONNA BE, AND I LIVE WITH MY TWO KIDS AND MY HUSBAND, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED RADIANT LIFE SOCCER FIELDS, PARTICULARLY REGARDING THE IMPACT IT'LL HAVE ON THE PRIVACY AND SAFETY OF MY FAMILY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

FIRST, LET ME TALK ABOUT PRIVACY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DREW US TO THIS NE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE 20 YEARS BACK, WAS THE PEACEFUL PRIVATE SPACE IT PROVIDES FOR OUR FAMILY.

RIGHT NOW, WE FEEL SECURE IN OUR HOME KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SPACE TO OURSELVES, BUT WITH THE SOCCER FIELDS SO CLOSE BY, IT'S JUST IN OUR BACKYARD.

AS YOU SEE IN THE IMAGE THAT PRIVACY WILL BE SERIOUSLY COMPROMISED, EVEN WITH THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WE WILL LOSE THAT SENSE OF PRIVACY.

PEOPLE WILL BE IN THE FIELDS, AND THEY WILL HAVE THE DIRECT WAVE INTO OUR BACKYARDS AND HOMES.

NO ONE SHOULD FEEL LIKE THEIR HOME IS CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY BEING WASHED OR EXPOSED.

FOR US, THIS ISN'T JUST AN INCONVENIENCE, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF PEACE AND SOLITUDE WE VALUE AS A FAMILY.

NOW I WANNA FOCUS ON THE SAFETY, ESPECIALLY FOR MY 14-YEAR-OLD AND A 8-YEAR-OLD.

MY SON AND HIS FRIENDS LOVE TO PLAY OUTSIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RIDING THEIR BIKES AND WALKING AROUND, AND I ENCOURAGE THAT BECAUSE I, I KNOW THE AREA IS SAFE FOR THEM.

BUT WHEN I INFORM MY 8-YEAR-OLD WHO IS HERE WITH US NOW ABOUT THE PROPOSED SOCCER FIELD, HIS IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WAS FILLED WITH THE CONCERN.

SO DO I, LIKE HIS QUESTIONS WERE, WILL I BE STILL ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE, WALK AROUND, AND RIDE WITH MY FRIENDS? AND I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ANSWER.

AS A MOTHER HEARING MY CHILD ASK, THAT BREAKS MY HEART.

THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, CROWDS AND DISRUPTION CAUSED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL CHANGE THE SAFE, QUIET ENVIRONMENT THAT MY CHILDREN CURRENTLY ENJOY.

EVEN IF THE CITY TRIES TO CONDUCT CONTROL PARKING BY ROUTING ALL THE VEHICLES TO THE CHURCH PARKING AREA, THE REALITY IS THAT GAPS IN THE TREE LINE AND LANDSCAPE BUFFER WILL ALLOW CARS TO CUT THROUGH OUR STREETS.

THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL STREETS NOT DESIGNED FOR HEAVY TRAFFIC.

MORE CARS MEANS MORE RISK FOR CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE OUT WALKING OR RIDING THE BIKES.

I WON'T BE ABLE TO LET MY SON AND HIS FRIENDS PLAY OUTSIDE AS FREELY AS THEY DO NOW.

AND AS A PARENT, THAT'S A HEARTBREAKING REALITY.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL TAKE IT, MAKE IT MAKE HARDER FOR ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE LETTING MY CHILD PLAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN SHOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY, AND THIS PROPOSAL CREATES A SAFETY HAZARD THAT WE CANNOT IGNORE.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHETHER MY CHILD IS SAFE PLAYING OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF INCREASED TRAFFIC AND CROWDS.

WE NEED TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF OUR KIDS.

AND THIS DEVELOPMENT SIMPLY DOESN'T OFFER ENOUGH PROTECTION.

IN ADDITION TO THESE CONCERNS, I WORRY ABOUT THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WITH THE SOCCER FIELD SO CLOSE, THE CONSTANT NOISE, THE LOSS OF PRIVACY, AND THE ADDED DANGERS FOR OUR CHILDREN WILL DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE QUAL QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHAT WE VALUE TODAY, PEACE, QUIET, AND SAFETY WILL BE COMPROMISED.

AND WE CAN'T JUST IGNORE THAT.

AS A PARENT, I ASK THIS COMMITTEE SERIOUSLY TO CONSIDER THE PRIVACY AND SAFETY OF FAMILIES LIKE MINE.

THE SOCCER FIELDS MAY BRING BENEFITS TO SOME, BUT IN THE LONG RUN, THE EXPENSE OF THE PEACE AND THE SECURITY THAT WE AS RESIDENTS ALREADY ENJOY, MY CHILDREN DESERVE TO GROW UP IN A SAFE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY CAN PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT FEAR.

WHEN MY CHILD ASK, WILL I BE ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE WITH MY FRIENDS AND BE SAFE? I NEED TO KNOW THAT THE ANSWER IS YES.

I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL AND PRIORITIZE AND WHILE BEING OF THE FAMILY WHO ALREADY LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERING THE IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SAFETY.

I WOULD, AGAIN, I REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT, SO WATCH THE RED LIGHT AS IT STARTS TO, UH, COME ON AND APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO HEAR FROM TONIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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UH, THANK, THANK YOU.

UH, ROBERT HANNER.

I LIVE AT 7 1 6 7 SPRING VIEW LANE.

THAT'S, UH, FOR REFERENCE, IT'S, UH, ON THE, THE NORTH END OF THE PROPOSED SOCCER FIELDS.

SO WHY I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS, TRAFFIC, PARKING, LITTER, RESTROOMS. MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN REALLY IS THE PROXIMITY OF THE FIELDS TO THE HOUSES, RIGHT? WE TALK ABOUT A 60 FOOT BUFFER ZONE, RIGHT? TO, TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

60 FEET, IT'S 20 YARDS, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S TWO FIRST DOWNS, RIGHT? 60 FEET.

THAT'S THE DISTANCE IN A BASEBALL GAME FROM THE PITCHERS MOUND TO HOME PLATE.

AND IF I'M, WITHOUT MY, MY VIEWFINDER, I'M GONNA SAY IT'S ROUGHLY THE DISTANCE FROM MR. WAY AND MR. ALEXANDER TO THE DOOR, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S ROUGHLY 60 FEET.

UM, YOU KNOW, MR. DESLER, MR. C***K, YOU BOTH COMMENTED RIGHT ABOUT, ABOUT BEING AT SOCCER GAMES.

I'M GONNA GUESS, RIGHT? IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE CHEERING FOR YOUR, YOUR SON OR YOUR DAUGHTER AND, AND YOU'RE STANDING THERE AND I'M STANDING AT THAT DOOR, I CAN HEAR YOU AND I CAN HEAR YOU VERY CLEARLY.

GIVEN THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE CAN REASONABLY CONCLUDE, RIGHT, THAT THAT IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO, TO MY USE OF MY PROPERTY, TO MY USE OF MY LAWN, TO MY USE OF MY PATIO, TO MY USE OF MY HOUSE, RIGHT? THAT'S CONDITION NUMBER SEVEN, THAT, THAT APPARENTLY, UH, WE BELIEVE WAS MET.

I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN REASONABLY BELIEVE THAT CONDITION WAS MET FURTHER.

I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN REASONABLY CONCLUDE THAT IT DOESN'T REDUCE MY PROPERTY VALUES, RIGHT? AGAIN, IF IT'S REDUCING MY USE OF MY PATIO TO REDUCING MY USE OF MY LAWN, IT CLEARLY IS REDUCING MY PROPERTY VALUE.

AGAIN, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN POSSIBLY CONCLUDE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT CONDITION'S BEEN MET.

SO, UH, APPRECIATE THE TIME, UH, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

AND, UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS NINA, AND, UH, WE LIVE AT 6 9 7 2 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

WE ARE FAMILY OF SIX, AND WE SHARED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FOR LAST EIGHT YEARS.

WE MOVED IN ALMOST EIGHT YEARS AGO, AND OUR BACKYARD FACING THE FIELDS RIGHT NOW.

UH, WE LIVE HERE, UH, WITH OUR FOUR CHILDREN.

AND WHEN WE WERE BUYING A HOUSE, IT WAS A DREAM, OF COURSE, OF A QUIET AND PEACEFUL PLACE.

AND THE BACKYARD WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME WHEN I WAS BUYING A HOUSE.

UM, AND WE WERE DREAMING, OF COURSE, OF A PEACEFUL PLACE FOR YEARS TO GO IN THE FUTURE.

AND IF THERE, SINCE IT WAS OPEN SPACE AND HOUSES WOULD BE BUILT LATER ON, THEY WILL BE OUR NEIGHBORS.

UH, BUT YEAR AGO, WE NOTICED THAT, UH, SOME WORK STARTED HAPPENING ON THE FIELDS REGULARLY DURING THE SUMMER AND THE SPRING, AND WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED OF ANY CHANGES, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND THEN FROM SOME NEIGHBORS, I HEARD THE CHURCH WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SOCCER FIELDS, UH, IN THAT SPACE.

UM, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY DEVELOPERS SIGNS OR THERE WAS NOTHING.

AND THEN LATER ON, WE WERE INVITED FOR A MEETING WHEN WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOCCER FIELDS.

AND, UM, WORK ALREADY STARTED, AND WE WERE SURPRISED WHY WE ARE NOT COMMUNICATING ABOUT IT, BUT WE ARE JUST THERE LETTING US KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THEY SAID THAT CT TOLD THEM THAT THEY MUST TALK TO US BEFORE THEY CONTINUE.

SO THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION REALLY THAT WAS NOTICED EARLIER TODAY.

IT WAS JUST A POINT THAT THEY LET US KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, AND JUST CT TOLD US TO TALK TO YOU FIRST.

THIS POINT OF SMALL THING, WE DIDN'T LIKE REALLY THAT IT WAS NOT A GOOD NEIGHBOR POINT OF TALKING.

UM, WE MANY TIMES ALREADY TALKED AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ALL THE SIDES ARE SURROUNDED BY HOUSES WITH FAMILIES.

OF COURSE, THERE IS NO OPEN SPACE.

THERE IS NO ASPHALT PATHS AROUND LIKE MANY PLACES HAVE WHO HAS PARK IN THE MIDDLE OR PLAYGROUNDS OR SOMETHING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THIS.

IN THE SUMMER, THERE WAS SOME ACTIVITIES ALREADY, AND I JUST WANNA KNOW, SAY, ABOUT SOME TRASH THAT WAS FLYING AROUND.

IT WAS NOT HUGE AMOUNT, BUT THERE WAS SOME, NO ONE TO CAME TO PICK IT UP, AND IT WAS NO SOCCER FIELDS IN ACTIVE WORK YET.

SO ALL THIS MAKES US FEEL THAT WE CAN HAVE RULES, BUT WE CANNOT

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REALLY CONTROL IT.

SO I, EVERY DAY HAVE TO GO AFTER PRACTICES AND, YOU KNOW, CLEAN UP MY BACKYARD.

THERE IS MUCH MORE, MANY POINTS WE SUBMITTED IN THE COMETS.

ALSO, AS I'M SURE YOU SAW, UM, WE ARE NOT AGREE WITH THIS IDEA, AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT IN OUR INTEREST ON IT'S NOT, AND IT'S NOT IN THE INTEREST OF OUR INVESTMENT FOR THAT HOUSE THAT WE, UH, MADE, BECAUSE SOCCER FIELD WILL BRING A LOT OF CHANGES.

WE CONCERN ABOUT MANY THINGS, SAFETY, TRAFFIC, BOUNDARIES, PUBLIC TOILETS ARE A BIG THING.

NOISE OF COURSE, TRASH, TRESPASSING, AND VALUE OF OUR HOUSES IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S A BIG THING FOR US.

UH, WE PERSONALLY TAKE OUR KIDS TO SOCCER PRACTICE, TO DAIRY PARK THAT IS SEVEN MINUTES AWAY FROM US, FIVE MINUTES.

IF THERE ARE NO TRAFFIC, WE ARE HAPPY TO THE SKY AND BACK.

IT'S A HUGE PLACE.

ALL CLUBS ARE WELCOME THERE.

WE PARTICIPATE IN OP SOCCER CLUB.

UH, WE HAVE FOUR BOYS, AS I SAID BEFORE, SO WE DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOCCER FIELD IN MY NEIGHBOR IN MY BACKYARD, IF WE ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING PROVIDED NEXT TO US.

SO WE ARE NOT VERY HAPPY WITH THE PROJECT THAT WAS SUBMITTED, AND WE HOPE YOU WILL FEEL US AND OUR CONCERNS.

I, I WOULD ASK THE AUDIENCE NOT TO APPLAUD AFTER EACH, UM, PRESENTATION.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DISRUPTIVE TO THE PROCESS, SO THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS NUALA.

I LIVE IN, UH, UH, 68 18 HOLBEIN DRIVE, DUBLIN.

I HAVE BEEN A PROUD RESIDENT OF DUBLIN SINCE THE LATE NINETIES.

THIS IS MY SECOND HOME, AND MOST OF THOSE PROPERTIES LINING UP THERE, THEY'RE THE ORIGINAL, UH, BUILDERS.

WE HAVEN'T SIGNED UP FOR THIS, THIS IS NOT THE DUBLIN V I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, UH, CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES LIKE BOY SCOUTING.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN A MARRIED BADGE COUNSELOR FOR, UH, RIFLE AND SHOTGUN.

UH, I LOVE KIDS, BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR.

AND I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF HOA AND I MEAN, UH, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY TEST.

AND MOST OF OUR, UH, KIDS ARE ACTUALLY MOVING OUT OF HOMES.

AND THE MEAN AGE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS AROUND THE FIFTIES.

WE ARE RAPIDLY AGING.

IT'S NOT JUST THE YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE AT RISK, BUT EVEN THESE POTENTIAL ELDERS.

AND OFTEN A HUSBANDS MIGHT BE OUT OF, UH, HOME AND, I MEAN, AND WE ARE EXPOSING THEM TO, I MEAN, ALL KINDS OF DANGERS.

WE REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE THAT BLOOD ON, UH, CITY'S HANDS.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR.

THIS IS NOT THE W NINE U OF THIS IS NOT WHAT, WHY PEOPLE COME AND BUY PROPERTIES HERE.

UM, ULTIMATELY ALL WE WANT TO DO IS ENJOY OUR PROPERTY.

OTHER COMMENTS? MICROPHONE IS ON NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

HI, MY NAME IS MATT PEEIN, 69 16 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

UH, I LIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHERE THE FIELDS ARE BEING PROPOSED.

UH, WE ACTUALLY BUILT OUR HOUSE IN 2005, SO WE WERE THERE BEFORE THE CHURCH, UM, WHEN MY WIFE AND I WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO BUILD.

I LIVED IN DUBLIN FOR YEARS BEFORE THAT.

UH, LOVED DUBLIN.

ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD PROTECT US FROM ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

SO WHEN WE, WE BUILT, WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A CHURCH BEHIND US.

WE SAID, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW BAD COULD IT BE? WE EXPECT EVENTS FROM TIME TO TIME.

UM, AFTER THE CHURCH WAS BUILT, ONE OF THE VERY FIRST EVENTS THEY HAD, HAD A HAD, UH, ONE OF THEIR PEOPLE DRIVE RIGHT THROUGH OUR BACKYARD OUT THROUGH OUR DRIVEWAY ONTO POST PRESERVE.

WE PLANTED TREES ALL ALONG THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY TO TRY TO AVOID THAT.

NOW THEY USE 'EM AS BATHROOMS. THEY ALREADY HAVE SOCCER ACTIVITIES OUT THERE ON THAT SOUTH SIDE, CLOSEST TO THE BUILDINGS IN THE BATHROOMS. THEY USE OUR TREES.

WE'VE BEEN COMPLAINING TO 'EM ABOUT IT.

THE PARENTS LOOK AT US LIKE WE'RE CRAZY.

YOU CAN SEE BY THE SCHEDULE THAT THEY HAVE ON THERE, MARCH THROUGH NOVEMBER, THREE, THREE MONTHS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOCCER IN OUR BACKYARD UNTIL 8:30 PM I NEVER THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE HERE IN DUBLIN COMPLAINING ABOUT POTENTIALLY LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, HONESTLY.

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MY WIFE AND I WANNA SIT ON OUR BACK PATIO AND ENJOY IT WITHOUT NOISE AND TRASH AND PEOPLE.

UM, AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE OPPOSE IT AND WE ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS TO CONSIDER, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD? THANKS.

OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH.

HI THERE.

UH, I'M DAVID CLEVELAND AT 6 9 8 8 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

UM, I'VE LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR 20 YEARS.

WHEN WE FIRST HEARD THAT THE CHURCH WAS GONNA PUT SOCCER FIELDS ON THERE, FIRST OF ALL, WE ALL THOUGHT, WELL, WE ALREADY HAD A SOCCER FIELD AND IT WASN'T A PROBLEM.

BUT THEN WE REALIZED THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE A COMMERCIAL VENTURE.

IT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT THING THAN HAVING SOCCER FIELDS.

UM, SO THE FIRST THING I DID WAS I LOOKED AT DUBLIN'S COMMERCIAL CODE, AND IT SAYS, IF THERE'S A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE MOUNTING AND LANDSCAPING THAN WHAT THEY HAVE HERE.

NOW, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS DOESN'T COUNT AS COMMERCIAL WHEN THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THIS IS.

THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT THAT'S GONNA BE HERE.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT DUBLIN'S OWN CODE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE LIKE EITHER MOUNTING OR HEDGES ON LIKE A CONTINUOUS SCREEN.

SOMETHING LIKE, OH, WHAT IS IT? ONE DECIDUOUS TREE EVERY 30 FEET.

AND IF YOU COUNT THE GORDON FARMS, THAT WOULD PUT SOMETHING LIKE 75 TO 80 TREES THERE.

ALL RIGHT? SO I REALIZE IT'S NOT QUITE A CODE VIOLATION BECAUSE IT'S RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL, BUT TO ME, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE.

AND IF, IF IT WAS SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD HAVE TOURNAMENTS EVERY WEEKEND, I DON'T SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE THIS IS BETWEEN WHAT AVERY'S GOT AVERY IS RIGHT NOW.

UM, BY THE WAY, LIKE I KNOW PEOPLE, YOU, THEY SAY THEY CAN'T PARK ON POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD, BUT ON STEELHOUSE, WHICH YOU CAN'T SEE ON THE END THERE, THAT THE CITY OF DUBLIN ACTUALLY OWNS THAT PROPERTY WHERE THAT N IS RIGHT THERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD PARK ON STEELHOUSE, LEGALLY, IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD.

THEY COULD WALK THROUGH CITY OF DUBLIN'S PROPERTY RIGHT THERE, AND THEY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GO INTO THE ACTUAL, LIKE, GO INTO OUR PROPERTIES AT ALL.

THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF IS ON THAT FIELD, CLOSEST TO THE NORTH END, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A ROW OF MINIVANS FROM MOMS PARKING THERE TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS AFTER PRACTICE, ALL RIGHT? LIKE, THOSE KIDS DON'T WANNA WALK ALL THE WAY TO THE PARKING AREA.

THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST PARKED THERE.

THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT LEAVING THEIR CAR.

AND THEN THE KIDS WILL JUST WALK RIGHT WHERE THAT END IS, WHERE THE CITY OF DUBLIN PROPERTY IS, AND THEY'RE GONNA PICK THEM UP RIGHT THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO IF ANYTHING CITY OF DUBLIN COULD DO PLANT A LOT OF TREES, WHERE THAT END IS, THAT'S, THAT'S DUBLIN'S LAND.

BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IF, IF THIS WAS GONNA GO THROUGH, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF MOUNDING AND A LOT MORE TREES TO BLOCK THAT.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S VERY MINIMAL.

HOW INTENSE THINGS CAN GET, ESPECIALLY GAMES AND TOURNAMENTS.

MY NAME IS SENGA.

I LIVE IN 6 9 5 6 POSH PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN, UH, POSH PRESERVE FOR OVER 15 YEARS.

BEFORE MOVING INTO DUBLIN, I WAS IN HILLIARD AND GROVE CITY, AND, UH, I REALLY LOVED DUBLIN AND CONSIDERED MOVING INTO DUBLIN BECAUSE OF ITS DIVERSITY AND THE WAY YOU MAINTAIN CITY, THE PLANNING, JOINING EVERYTHING.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASON.

AND I, I'VE BEEN, EVER SINCE I MOVED INTO DUBLIN, I REALLY LOUD AND INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'VE BEEN PART OF CPA OR CITY OF DUBLIN VOLUNTEER, ALL THOSE THINGS FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

AND I AM SORRY TO SAY THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

I KNOW THE PLANNING TEAM IS DOING THEIR JOB BY LOOKING AT THIS BLACK AND WHITE AND PROVIDING THEIR APPROVALS, BUT THE PROPOSAL THAT THE CHURCH BROUGHT FORWARD SHOULD BE TREATED AS COMMERCIAL.

I KNOW IT'S COMING IN FROM THE RELIGIOUS STANDPOINT, WHY THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED AS COMMERCIAL AND WHY IT IS BEING TREATED AS OTHER WAY AND WHY NOT COMMERCIAL JOINING IS COMING TO PICTURE.

I'M NOT SURE, AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS AS COMMERCIAL BEFORE CONSIDERING.

THE NEXT POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS BY PROVIDING APPROVAL.

WHAT KIND OF DISRUPTION IS BRINGING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE MY SON PLAYED SOCCER FOR HIS, HIS, UH, SENIOR IN AT OSU, AND HE WAS A SOCCER GOALIE.

I KNOW HOW THINGS CAN GO WHEN KIDS OR WHEN PARENTS AT THE TOURNAMENTS AND

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UH, IT'S HARD TO CONTROL NOT JUST THE PLAYERS, THE SPECTATORS, AND THOSE CAN GET OUT OF CONTROL NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY AND WHAT YOU CAN SAY.

THE OTHER THING IS, WE HAVE HAD, I REPRESENT HYA AS WELL, BY THE WAY, AND THE MULTIPLE MEETINGS WE HAD THAT WE WERE NOT HAPPY, NOT A SINGLE PERSON REPRESENTED, NOT JUST THE HYA FROM ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

WE WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THE RESPONSES WE GOT BECAUSE THE WAY WE WANTED TO RECEIVE THE COMPLAINTS AND HOW THEY ARE BEING MANAGED, WE WERE NOT HAPPY BECAUSE THEY SAY WE TAKE ACTION.

HOW DO YOU FOLLOW UP WITH THE COMPLAINT? WE DON'T HAVE A SATISFACTORY RESPONSE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, HOW THESE COMPLAINTS ARE FILED, HOW THEY ARE TRACKED, HOW THEY ARE MANAGED AND RECTIFIED.

WITHOUT THAT, I CANNOT SAY THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME THOSE ACTIONS TAKEN.

YOUR YOUR MICROPHONE IS OFF, SIR, I THINK YOU HIT THE BUTTON FROM THE MICROPHONE.

IT NEEDS TO, THE GREEN LIGHT SHOULD BE ON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU, .

MY NAME'S LARRY HANSEN.

I RESIDE AT 69 48 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD, UH, FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

MY WIFE OF 53 YEARS, UNFORTUNATELY, CANNOT BE HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING.

UH, WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH THREE CHILDREN AND NINE GREAT, OR NINE GRANDCHILDREN, EXCUSE ME.

OUR HOME IS OUR ONLY ASSET.

UH, CINDY AND I TREASURER ARE SITTING ON OUR PATIO, WHICH FACES THE, UH, PROPOSED SOCCER FIELDS AND, UH, AND ENJOY THE PEACE AND QUIETNESS IN OUR PATIO WHEN THE WARM WEATHER IS WARMER, MUCH WARMER THAN TODAY.

UH, WE ESPECIALLY ENJOY OUR DINNER AND EVENING ON OUR PATIO WITH SOME DELICIOUS HOT DOGS AND HAMBURGERS BY MADE BY YOURS, TRULY.

AND, UH, FINALLY, UH, JUST A QUESTION, I GUESS.

UH, HOW WILL MY WIFE AND I BE ABLE TO CON TO CONTINUE TO ENJOY THIS PEACE AND QUIETNESS AND, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, OUR BACKYARD, IF WE INTRODUCE THESE SOCCER FIELDS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THANK YOU.

SPEAKING OF CHILDREN, I WANT TO PICK UP, BRING UP A PERSONAL CONCERN FOR MY 8-YEAR-OLD BROTHER AND HIS FRIENDS WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, HELLO.

MY NAME IS ESHA OLLI, AND I LIVE AT 6 9 4 0 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED RADIANT LIVE SOCCER, EXCUSE ME, RADIANT LIFE SOCCER FIELDS, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON A RESIDENTS OF POST PRESERVE.

FIRST, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE NOISE AND PRIVACY CONCERNS.

WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF SOCCER FIELDS FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE MUST CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF THOSE OF US WHO LIVE CLOSE BY SOCCER FIELDS CAN BE LOUD WITH SHOUTING, CHEERING, AND LARGE CL LARGE CROWDS.

THIS WILL DISRUPT OUR QUIET RESIDENTIAL AREA, ESPECIALLY DURING WEEKEND GAMES AND EVENTS.

THE PROPOSAL MENTIONS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT NO MATTER HOW WELL PLANNED THIS IS, IT WON'T BE ENOUGH TO FULLY BLOCK OUT THE NOISE.

WE'LL BE FORCED TO LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT NO LONGER FEELS LIKE A PEACEFUL HOME.

ADDITIONALLY, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL COMPROMISE OUR PRIVACY.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A SENSE OF CALM AND SPACE, BUT IF SOCCER FIELDS JUST NEXT DOOR, WE'LL LOSE THAT.

YOU'LL BE WATCHING FROM THE FIELDS AND THE FIELDS.

ACTIVITIES WILL BE VISIBLE FROM OUR HOMES.

THE BUFFER MAY REDUCE THIS, BUT IT WILL NEVER FULLY RESTORE THE PRIVACY WE WANT CURRENTLY ENJOY.

NEXT, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.

THE APPLICANT CLAIMS THAT TRAFFIC WILL ALL BE ROUTED TO A CHURCH'S PARKING AREA, BUT I WAS SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THIS.

EVEN IF THE GOAL IS TO DIRECT ALL THE VEHICLES TO THE CHURCH'S PARKING LOT, THE PROPOSED GAPS IN THE LANDSCAPE AND TREE LINE WILL LEAD TO CARS CUTTING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE'LL BE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO PARK ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND USE THE GAPS IN THE TREE LINE AS SHORTCUTS TO GET TO SOCCER FIELDS.

THIS WILL RESULT IN THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR RESIDE RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH WAS NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE THIS VOLUME.

THE APPLICANT'S PLAN TO HAVE A UNIFORMED OFFICER TO DIRECT TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THIS REALITY, AND IT'LL MAKE OUR STREETS LESS SAFE, PARTICULARLY FOR CHILDREN WHO WALK IN OR BIKE IN THE AREA.

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THEY PLAY OUTSIDE, RIDE THEIR BIKES, AND WALK THROUGH THE AREA.

WITH THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND THE LARGE CROWDS THAT WILL COME WITH THE SOCCER FIELDS, IT WILL BECOME MUCH MORE DANGEROUS FOR THEM.

THAT IF VEHICLES AND PEOPLE WILL CREATE A HAZARD FOR KIDS WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO ENJOY THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'LL MAKE IT HARDER FOR PARENTS TO, UM, FEEL SAFE LETTING THEIR CHILDREN PLAY OUTSIDE.

WHILE THE CITY MAY BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR US, THE RESIDENTS OF POST PRESERVE COSTS ARE REAL.

WE'LL FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF DECLINING PROPERTY VALUE, DAILY DISRUPTIONS, AND THE OVERALL DECLINE IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

IF YOU LIVE HERE, WOULD YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THE NOISE TRAFFIC AND THE PRI LOSS OF PRIVACY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT EVERY SINGLE DAY? WOULD YOU WANNA SEE YOUR HOMES VALUE DECLINE BECAUSE OF IT? WE NEED MORE THAN JUST PROMISES FROM THE CITY AND DEVELOPERS.

WE NEED CLEAR AND FORCEFUL PLANS TO PROTECT OUR HOMES, OUR SAFETY, AND OUR PRIVACY, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY FOR CHILDREN LIKE MY BROTHER WHO DESERVE TO GROW IN A SAFE AND PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF THIS PROPOSAL ON THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

WE NEED MORE SOLUTIONS THAT TRULY ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS, NOT JUST ASSURANCES THAT WILL BE FORGOTTEN OVER TIME.

THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS MUST COME FIRST.

THE MIC IS ON.

I LIVE IN, UH, 6 9 7 2 POST PRESERVER BOULEVARD.

UH, I'M, I'M, I'M SURE YOU GUYS HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER, BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT HERE TO, UH, PREVENT THAT CHURCH FROM EXERCISING THE RIGHTS OF OUTREACH OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE DOING WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO WITH THEIR LAND, EXCEPT THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR A SOCCER FIELD SURROUNDED BY ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

SO I HAVE, UH, EIGHT, SEVEN, AND SIX YEARS OLD KIDS, EIGHT, SEVEN, AND SIX YEARS OLD, AND THEY PLAY SOCCER TOO, BUT I'M CONCERNED, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S, WHO'S, THIS CROWD WILL BRING SEX OFFENDERS, FELONS, UH, RUNNING CARS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S MY, THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN IS MY GREATEST CONCERN.

OF COURSE.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE LIKE THE 15% AT LEAST DECLINE IN OUR PROPERTY VALUE.

THAT'S ALL I WANNA SAY TODAY.

THAT CONVERSATION WAS NEVER ENTERTAINED.

MY NAME IS DEEPTI SONI.

I LIVE IN 69, UH, 80 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

UM, I'VE LIVED IN THIS BEAUTIFUL, QUIET, PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FOR ABOUT 17, 18 YEARS NOW.

WE DECIDED TO BUY OUR FIRST HOUSE AND RAISE OUR FAMILY.

KNOWING DUBLIN IS A CITY THAT VALUES THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF ITS RESIDENT, AND THAT IT'LL PRIORITIZE ITS RESIDENTS OVER ANYTHING ELSE.

IF THESE SOCCER FIELDS WERE BUILT, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES.

IMAGINE HUNDREDS OF RANDOM STRANGERS WALKING RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR BACKYARD WHEN THERE IS NO FENCING.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL SAFE YOURSELF AND NOT THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF MY TWO GIRLS, UM, KNOWING HOW CLOSE IT'S GONNA BE TO MY BACKYARD.

UM, THE CHURCH SAYS IT'S THEIR WAY OF GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

IN MY OPINION.

THEY'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT IS CLOSEST TO THEM.

WE'VE BEEN THEIR CLOSEST NEIGHBORS FOR 20 YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN BEST NEIGHBORS ANYBODY COULD ASK FOR, AND THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECTED FROM CHURCH.

I KNOW TONIGHT, MULTIPLE TIMES WE'VE HEARD, UH, PEOPLE FROM CHURCH, FROM CITY, YOU GUYS, UM, SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS, CHURCH AND US, THE RESIDENTS, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE.

EVERY TIME, ME, MYSELF, HAVE BROUGHT IT UP, WHY? SOCCER FIELDS, WE'VE GIVEN MULTIPLE OPTIONS.

WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS VERSUS THIS VERSUS THIS? WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN, NEVER BEEN ENTERTAINED.

WE WERE ALWAYS TOLD, THIS IS WHAT THEY WANNA DO, AND THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

TALK NEXT STEPS.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED TALKING NEXT STEPS.

AND WHEN WE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE, ONLY ONE AND A HALF THING WAS THEY AGREED TO.

OUT OF 15, 20 THINGS WE POINTED OUT, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, RIGHT? UH, I MEAN, I URGE ALL

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YOU MEMBERS OF COMMISSION, UM, TO PLEASE COME TO MY HOUSE, WALK THROUGH MY PROPERTY, MY BACKYARD, WALK THROUGH THE CHURCH'S PROPERTY, AND THEN PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES AS A MOTHER, AS A FATHER, AS A GRANDPARENT, AND THEN MAKE A DECISION IF THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND IS THE BEST LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE IN ENTIRETY OF DUBLIN FOR THESE SOCCER FIELDS.

I MEAN, IT'S MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO THE BOARD TODAY.

PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT RUIN THE SANCTITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

DO NOT RUIN OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES, AND DO NOT APPROVE THIS REQUEST.

APPRECIATE IT.

LAST POINT I WANNA MAKE IS, UM, THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONDITIONS WHICH HAVE PUT IN, IN PLACE, OKAY? THEY, THEY WILL DO THIS, THEY WILL DO THIS, THEY WILL DO THIS.

DROP EVERYTHING AND RUN.

UM, MY NAME IS RAVI SONY, AND, UH, I LIVE IN 6 9 8 0 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD, DUBLIN, OHIO.

UH, DROP EVERYTHING AND RUN.

THAT'S WHAT MY REALTOR TOLD ME WHEN I TOLD THEM THAT SOCCER FIELDS ARE COMING FROM BACKYARD.

AND THAT'S WHEN I, MY LIFE WAS SHOCKED.

I DON'T HAVE A PREPARED SPEECH.

I WILL GET EMOTIONAL.

PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

UM, I HAVE TWO, TWO DAUGHTERS, AND I'VE CAME TO THIS FIRST DUBLIN AREA THINKING THAT LIFE HERE ON WOULD BE VERY PEACEFUL, VERY CALM.

MY DAUGHTERS AND COLLEGE, I PLAN TO LIVE A VERY PEACEFUL WIFE WITH MY WIFE.

BUT THAT FUTURE SEEMS TO BE FAR, FAR AWAY NOW.

AND IT'S NOT ONLY THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING DOWN, THE SALEABILITY OF THE HOUSE WILL GO DOWN TO, I WOULD NOT FIND ABLE TO FIND ANY BUYERS.

THAT'S WHY NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I'M A TAXPAYER.

I PAY LOTS OF TAX TO WCDI EARN A LOT.

BUT WHEN I SEE THAT DUBLIN CITY HAS BOUGHT A SPORTS FACILITY, $44 MILLION WAS SPENT FOR THAT WITH MY TAX MONEY.

NOW MY PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING DOWN.

I'M SLAMMED ON THAT THIRD THING.

SORRY, I I FORGOT THE THIRD PART.

UM, ANOTHER POINT I WANNA BRING FORWARD IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE CHURCH APPLIED FOR THIS IN SEPTEMBER LA LAST YEAR, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITHOUT ANYTHING.

SO IT MEANS THEY DID NOT DO THEIR HOMEWORK AT THAT TIME.

EVEN NOW, ALSO, THEY'VE DONE HALF OF THEIR WORK.

SO I, I HAVE LOST TRUST IN DUBLIN CITY IN APPROVING SUCH THINGS.

THEY, DO THEY EVEN CARE FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS, CITY TAXPAYERS? I DON'T THINK SO.

PROBABLY I WILL MOVE AWAY FROM DUBLIN.

PLUS I'LL ASK OTHER PEOPLE TO MOVE AWAY FROM DUBLIN.

THIRD POINT I WANNA MAKE IS LIKE I MET CHURCH PEOPLE.

UH, WE LIVED THERE.

WI WIFE JUST SAID THEY LIVED THERE 20 YEARS AND WE NEVER HAD ANY, ANY PROBLEM WITH THEM.

THEY HAD EASTER, THEY HAD HALLOWEEN, BUT RECENTLY THEY STARTED GETTING MORE, MORE VIOLENT.

THEY'VE BEEN PLAYING MOVIES IN THE BACKYARD AT VERY FULL VOLUME AT 10:00 PM UM, WHEN, WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST MEETING WITH THE CHURCH SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR, UH, WE WERE VERY HAPPY.

THE CHURCH IS READY TO TALK TO US.

AND LIKE 20 OF THE RESIDENTS WENT TO THE CHURCH AND WE SHARED OUR CONCERNS WITH THEM, AND WE WERE VERY SHOCKED THAT THEY WERE NOT READY TO LISTEN TO US.

THERE ARE NO MEETING NOTES TAKEN, THEN NOTHING WAS SHARED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT ROOM? I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? IS THE CHURCH READY TO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS OR NOT? AND THAT'S WHEN LIKE, WE STARTED RESPONDING.

WE STARTED PUTTING COMMENTS AND ALL, AND THE CHURCH TOOK THE APPLICATION BACK.

SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THEM, RIGHT? BUT THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA, WHICH THE REPORT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS REPORT.

AND AS MY FRIEND SAID, LIKE, HAVE YOU DONE ANY STUDIES, TECHNICAL STUDIES? NO, NOTHING.

EVEN THE TRIP SUMMARY, WHICH IS PART OF THAT, THAT REPORT THAT CLEARLY SAYS THEY HAVE NOT STUDIED IMPACT OF TOURNAMENTS ON THAT TRIP.

TRIP, UH, TRAFFIC AT ALL.

IT'S ONLY SAYS THAT WE HAVE STUDIED FOR PRACTICES AND THAT ONLY WITH LIMITED DATA.

SO IT MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF EYE WATCHES, EYE WATCHES GOING ON.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS, IS KIND OF IGNORING ALL THE DATA, IS IGNORING.

MY WIFE WENT TO MEET WITH, WITH SARAH HOLT, AND SHE HAS NOT ATTENDED TO VERY, VERY NICELY.

MY WIFE'S COMMENT WAS THAT THEY'RE VERY RUDE.

THEY'RE NOT ENTERTAINING OUR, OUR REQUESTS AT ALL.

UM,

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BUT WHO'S GONNA ENFORCE? ARE WE GOING TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? ARE WE GOING TO GO TO THE CHURCH? ARE WE GOING TO THE CITY? EVENTUALLY, I'M PAYING TAX TO THE CITY.

I'M GONNA GO TO THE CITY, RIGHT? I'M GONNA COME BACK TO YOU GUYS.

HEY, YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS.

NOW FIX THIS.

WILL YOU COME TO A BACKYARD AND FIX THAT AT THAT TIME? I DON'T THINK SO.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANNA SAY TODAY.

HI, UH, I'M, I'M JAG UH, I'M LIVING OUT OF 7 1 9 9 SPRING VIEW LANE THAT'S JUST BEHIND THE SOCCER FIELD.

I MOVED, UH, TO THIS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2004.

I WAS THE FIRST ONE IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MOVED THERE, UM, WITH THE HOPE THAT THIS PLACE IS MY HOME FOR THE FUTURE.

I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OF THE MEETINGS THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING, AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING ALL THE PROCEEDINGS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND, AND, AND THE ENTIRE HOA AND, AND THE RESIDENTS.

A COUPLE OF OF US ARE NOT HAPPY.

I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN A PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE MADE A LIVING.

KIDS GREW UP.

I MEAN, WE GO TO THE CHURCH.

I GO TO THE CHURCH.

WE'VE BEEN DONATING TO SEVERAL CHURCHES IN, IN THE CITY OF OHIO.

BUT IF, IF THAT LA PIECE OF LAND IS USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, IF, IF THE CHURCH WANTS TO EXTEND THE CHURCH OR HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE ARE OKAY WITH IT.

BUT USING THAT PIECE OF LAND FOR COMMERCIAL IS WHAT WE FEEL IS, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I MEAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING THERE OR LEAVE IT AS IS, AS YOU ARE DIS AS WE FEEL THAT PIECE OF LAND, WHEN WE WAKE UP AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE IN THE MORNING, WE SEE GREENERY IN THAT PLACE.

WE SEE A LOT OF GOOD, UH, IN THAT, IN THAT FIELDS.

BUT IF, IF, IF THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE COMING UP, THAT'S GOING TO DISRUPT THAT PLACE.

NOT ONLY THAT, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING DISRUPTED WITH, WITH SEVERAL HALLOWEEN PARTIES, WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS COMING IN, BANGING DOORS, AND, AND DOING A LOT OF THINGS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIVING IN A FEAR RIGHT NOW.

COPS USED TO COME AND PATROL THAT PLACE AND NOW NO LONGER DOING IT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO REACH OUT TO YOUR POLICE OFFICE TO HAVE MORE PET PATROL.

WE DON'T WANT MORE HEADACHE, MORE POLICE PATROLLING AT THIS PLACE IF THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE COMING.

SO PLEASE HELP US.

LISTEN TO US.

WE ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY IN THE DUBLIN CITY.

WE DON'T WANT THIS FORUM TO IGNORE US AND GET AN UPPER WALL FOR SOCCER FIELDS.

WE HUMBLY REQUEST THAT THIS IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE PROJECT TO BE APPROVED.

THE CHURCH, ABSOLUTELY ZERO.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JILL PEACH, AND I LIVE AT, UM, 69 16 POST PRESERVE.

UM, AS MY HUSBAND SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MOVED HERE 20 YEARS AGO.

UM, WE PROBABLY PUT A PATIO ON, ON THE BACK OF OUR HOUSE, I WOULD SAY ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.

AND ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS THAT.

MY HUSBAND AND I LIKE TO SIT ON THE BACK PATIO, LISTEN TO MUSIC AND TALK AND WHATNOT.

AND OUR HOUSE IS LITERALLY ALMOST BACKING UP TO ONE OF THE, THAT SOCCER FIELD THAT IS GONNA BE AT THE VERY TOP THERE.

I THINK YOU CALLED IT, THE NORTH END.

UM, SO THAT IS GOING TO HINDER OUR QUIET, PEACEFUL TIME, BEING OUT ON THE PATIO, BEING ABLE TO ENJOY EACH OTHER, ENJOY FAMILY AND WHATNOT.

AND I MEAN, I'M FROM PHILLY, PA TRUST ME, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN A CITY.

I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND.

I MOVED OUT HERE TO DUBLIN, OHIO THINKING I WAS MOVING TO A QUIET, PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND NOW YOU WANNA PUT A, ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS A SPORTS CENTER IN THE BACK OF, UH, IN MY, IN MY BACKYARD.

YOU CAN CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT.

YOU CAN SAY THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWS THE RURAL RULES, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT'S A SPORTS CENTER.

YOU GUYS WOULDN'T WANT A SPORTS CENTER IN THE BACK OF YOUR YARD, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

ALSO, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, OH, THE CHURCH HAS BEEN SO COMMUNICATIVE WITH US.

DEFINITELY NOT THE TRUTH.

I'VE HAD CHILDREN PEE IN MY BACKYARD.

I'VE CALLED THE CHURCH, ASK ME HOW MANY RESPONSES I'VE GOTTEN FROM

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I'VE ALSO HAD A CAR DRIVE RIGHT THROUGH MY YARD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND DRIVE IT THROUGH THE, THE CHURCH AND ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS LEAVING THE CHURCH.

SO THEY DECIDED TO DRIVE RIGHT THROUGH MY BACKYARD.

SO MY HUSBAND AND I PUT IN A ROW OF TREES, AGAIN, CONTACTED THE CHURCH, RECEIVED NO COMMUNICATION BACK FROM THEM.

I FINALLY HAD TO PUBLICLY TWEET ON THE DUBLIN, UH, TWITTER BEFORE I RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM ANYBODY AT THE CHURCH.

AND I HAVE ALL OF THIS IN WRITING IN MY PHONE.

I ALSO STILL HAVE THE TWEET WHERE I, THERE HAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE CHURCH.

FINALLY, SOMEBODY CONTACTED ME.

SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CONTACT THE CHURCH BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES.

WE WILL RECEIVE NO COMMUNICATION BACK FROM THEM.

THEY SAY THEY WANNA DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WANNA SPIRITUAL OR SPREAD THE WORD OR THE GOSPEL, OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLING IT.

THEY HAVE SHOWN NO NEIGHBORLY, THEY'VE SHOWN NOTHING NEIGHBORLY TO ME TO EXPRESS THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE SAYING EITHER.

THE RELIGION I FOLLOW SAYS IT'S NOT BY WORD, IT'S BY ACTION.

I'VE RECEIVED NONE OF THAT FROM THIS CHURCH.

SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER, WOULD YOU WANT A SPORTS CENTER IN YOUR BACKYARD? THANK YOU.

HI, UH, MY NAME IS AN VISHA AND I LIVE ON 69 24 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT YOU WOULD SEE NEXT TO, IT'S ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THOSE THREE TREES NEXT TO THE SMALLER SOCCER GROUND THAT'S THERE.

UM, IN ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT I HAD WASHED, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL TALK TO THAT LATER IN.

ONE OF THE MOVIES I HAD WAS, THERE WAS A THING THAT BASICALLY SAID, DOCTORS ARE VERY SMART.

THEY HAVE MACHINES TO MEASURE YOUR HEART RATE.

THEY HAVE MACHINES TO MEASURE YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY CAN DO, BUT THEY CANNOT STILL MEASURE OUT STILL THE AMOUNT OF STRESS THAT A BRAIN HAS AT ANY POINT OF A TIME IN A DAY FOR ANY PERSON.

SO WHAT, WHAT WHAT THE CHURCH HAS DECIDED TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL PUT AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF STRESS FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.

AND SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY, BUT THEY ARE ALSO IN THE SAME BOAT WE HAVE SEEN.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I LIVE JUST NEXT TO IT.

AND, UH, I HAVE NEVER COMPLAINED EVER TO THEM ABOUT ANY OF THESE THINGS.

IT'S BECAUSE I CONSIDER MYSELF AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

THEY WENT AHEAD.

THEY WENT AHEAD, AND THEY DID ALL OF THIS WITHOUT INFORMING.

AND AS MY, UH, NAB, MY FRIEND RAVI HERE, MENTIONED THAT THOSE MEETINGS THAT WERE CONDUCTED WITH THE HOA WAS JUST TO DO WHAT I CALL A CHECK MARK.

THEY WERE JUST TO SAY THAT YES, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT.

THAT WAS ALL IT WAS.

IT WAS NOTHING BUT WHAT I CALL IS JUST A WHITEWASH.

THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THERE WAS NOTHING MORE TO IT.

THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS THEY HAVE SAID, MOST OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, I I I ASKED THEM SPECIFICALLY IF WE CAN REDUCE THE TIME A LITTLE, BUT YOU KNOW, MORE THAN THE CHURCH.

THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO ME IS DSL HAS WAY MORE POWER, AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DICTATING HOW THIS THING WILL PAN OUT.

AND THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY REFUSED TO ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING THAT WE AS COMMUNITY HAVE ASKED.

AND I, I EARLY AND I'M A DEEPLY RELIGIOUS HUMAN BEING, AND I DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THE RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE ALWAYS HAPPENED.

AND I'VE NEVER, YOU GO BACK AND ASK THEM.

AND I, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY EMAILS, BUT I HAVE NEVER SENT THEM ANY EMAILS.

BUT THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS REACH OUT.

BACKYARD, AND THEREFORE I OPPOSE THIS IDEA.

AND I, I PURELY REQUEST YOU TO NOT LET THIS GO FURTHER.

I LIVE IN 6 7 2 7 ROYAL BLUE.

AND YOU CAN'T SEE MY HOUSE FROM THIS.

AND I WON'T BE DIRECTLY GETTING IMPACTED.

I'M SLIGHTLY FARTHER, FORTUNATELY, BUT I LIVE WITH THESE NEIGHBORS AND I SEE THE PAIN IN THEIR, WHENEVER I MEET WITH THEM FOR LAST ONE YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, HOW THEIR LIVES HAVE, GET, GOT IMPACTED BY THIS DECISION.

IF IT HAPPENS, IT HAS NOT YET HAPPENED.

AND THEY'RE THINKING SO MUCH ABOUT THAT.

IMAGINE WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE IT COMES IN THEIR

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I, UH, UH, UH, I'M, I'M, I'M A RESIDENT OF 7 1 9 1 SPRING VIEW LANE.

IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE SOCCER FIELDS.

BEING A PROUD DUBLIN RESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS, I TAKE PRIDE IN HOW SUCH A PLANNED CITY, THEY TAKE CARE NOT TO PUT ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES CLOSE TO LIKE RESIDENTIAL, ALWAYS TAKING CARE.

IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO SEE THAT HAPPENING, LIKE RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD.

ALONG WITH, I AGREE WITH ALL THE POINTS MY N NEIGHBORS HAS BROUGHT IN.

AND, UH, UM, FROM THE SAFETY, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU HEARD IT SEVERAL TIMES.

EVERYBODY'S BEEN 18 TO LIKE 20 YEARS HERE.

SO WE FEEL IT AT HOME.

UM, ALONG WITH ALL THE CONCERN THEY HAVE BROUGHT, THE ONLY ONE ADDITIONAL POINT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR PETS, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A STRESSOR FOR OUR PETS.

SEEING PEOPLE ALWAYS BEING IN THE BACKYARD, THEY'RE GONNA BE ANXIOUS.

UH, THERE MAY BE O OTHER PATHS COMING IN, YOU KNOW, CAUSING ADDING TO THEIR ANXIETY.

UM, SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME AS WELL.

HI, I'M LAKSHMI.

I LIVE IN 6 9, 5, 6 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

UM, I LIVE DIRECTLY, UH, BEHIND THE PROPOSED SOCCER FIELD.

UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO VOICE MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M AGAINST THE SOCCER.

MY SON PLAYED FOR ALMOST LIKE 15 YEARS.

UM, AND HE LOVES SOCCER.

IT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE WRONG LOCATION.

UM, IT'S SO CLOSE TO OUR HOME.

IT'LL BRING CONSTANT NOISE, UH, HEAVY TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERN FOR OUR FAMILIES, AND IT'LL DISRUPT OUR PEACE.

UH, IT'LL LOWER OUR PROPERTY VALUE AND ALSO CONGESTION IN THE, IN OUR QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO THERE ARE BETTER LOCATIONS, I BELIEVE, FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, THAT WON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTS.

UM, I URGE THE CITY TO RECONSIDER AND FIND MORE ACCC, UH, MORE APPROPRIATE LOCATION.

GAME AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT'S OUT THERE.

OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I AM GONNA CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD.

I'M SORRY.

OH, , I DIDN'T SEE YOU.

I, I, I, I, I LIVE IN, UH, 6 9, 6 4 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD.

AND WHICH IS, UH, JUST, UH, THE 2, 2, 2 THINGS THAT I DO IN THE MORNING WHEN I WAKE UP.

EITHER GO AND, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE FRONT DOOR, AND, UH, WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOW WITH A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN POST PRESERVE, I, I, I COULDN'T STAY THERE TO SEE THE TRAFFIC EACH IN THE FRONT DOOR.

SO I, I GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUTSIDE THE PATIO NOW.

I SEE VERY, VERY, IT'S VERY PEACEFUL.

THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE.

I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ANY VOICES.

UH, I KNOW, I MEAN, I, I REALLY WANTED TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LIKE, HOW IT IS RIGHT NOW, OR, AND AGAIN, IT'S SUCH, UH, WHO, WHO CAN DICTATE OR WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT THE COMMERCIAL WAY.

I, I LIKE TO DO, HAVE IT AS A SERVICE WAY.

AND ONE MORE THING THAT I NOTICED AS LIKE NOW THE TRAFFIC IN DUBLIN, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE HAVE THIS POST ROAD, I DON'T SEE ANY ACCIDENTS AND, UH, UH, THE WAY HOW IT IS LAID OUT RIGHT NOW, THERE WILL BE EACH SINGLE ROAD.

AND WHEN SOMEBODY, UH, AND WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY SAID THAT THERE IS A SOCCER FIELD COMING UP, I DID GOOGLE AND SAW THE, UH, WHAT WOULD IT CAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, TRAFFIC AND ACCIDENTS, THE SPORTS IS A SENTIMENT.

UH, AND IT'S EMOTIONAL.

AND MOST OF THE TIMES THE, UH, THE PARENTS THINK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE GAME.

AND, UH, PEOPLE WHO LOSE THE GAME, THEY THINK ABOUT WHY, I MEAN, WHO, WHO, WHO DIDN'T PLAY WELL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT COULD CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, UH, THAT'S A SURVEY.

I MEAN, I MEAN THAT'S, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF ANALYSIS IN THE GOOGLE THAT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS.

DUBLIN BEING A PLACE WHERE THERE ARE NO ACCIDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE POST ROAD.

IT'S SINGLE, SINGLE, SINGLE LANE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, CHURCH, I MEAN, UH, TO JUSTIFY OR, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, COME UP WITH A PLA I MEAN, IF THEY CAN ANSWER THAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE LANE IF YOU TAKE RIGHT, ESPECIALLY THE SOCCER

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WHAT I MEAN DOES THE POLICE IS, I MEAN, DOES, DOES THE POLICE, A TRAFFIC POLICE IS OUT THERE TO SUPPORT IF ANY ACCIDENT HAPPENS.

AND ARE WE READY FOR THAT? KNOWING AND BEING IN DUBLIN FOR THIS LONG, THE ONLY, ONLY, UH, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY TO ENTER INTO THE CHURCH, THAT'S THE ONLY PART THAT WE HAVE, IS ONE, ONE LANE.

AND, UH, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE VERY BAD.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR KIDS, UH, WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR KIDS TO THINK THROUGH WHEN YOU'RE WALKING ON THAT ROAD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S MORE WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE SPORTS EMOTIONS THAT YOU NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHILE RIDING THE ROAD.

SO I HONESTLY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SAY NO TO, UH, UH, THIS, UH, SOCCER, TO THE SOCCER FIELDS.

AND, UH, EVEN, I MEAN, UM, I'M A SPORTS PERSON, BUT, UH, I LOVE SPORTS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE PLACE WHERE I WANTED TO SEE, UH, THE SOCCER FIELD.

I WOULD RATHER GO TO, UH, A SPORTS FACILITY AND, UH, PAY, BUY, BUY THE TICKET, AND WATCH THE SPORTS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

DID YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? I'M NOT SURE IF I CAUGHT THAT.

MS. MAXWELL DID, DID, IF YOU COULD RE REPEAT IT, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS ANE ANI.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COMING UP FOR A COMMENT.

UH, NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE 1300 SIGNATURES THAT I REFERENCED WHEN I, UH, UH, TESTIFIED, UH, PER PREVIOUSLY, UH, BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK AND, UH, UH, MAINTAINED IN THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I AM PUR.

WE LIVE IN 7 1 8 3 SPRING UNION, NORTH OF THE SOCCER FIELDS.

I'M NOT AGAINST, UM, USING CHURCH, USING THE LAND FOR OUTREACH COMMITTEE OR ANYTHING, BUT HAVING AN ATHLETE KIND OF SOCCER, WHICH IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, CHEERING NOISE IS THE FIRST THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

THE LIGHTS WHEN THEY'RE, LIKE, DURING THE MONTHS OF OCTOBER WHEN THERE IS NO LIGHTS, THERE WILL BE LIGHTS.

SO HOW MANY, HOW MANY THINGS ARE WE GONNA SUPPORT, UH, SAY THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

NOBODY CAN CONTROL WHAT THE CROWD WILL DO BY JUST GIVING THE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THE SOCCER FIELDS OUT THERE IN MY BACKYARD.

YOU'RE GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NOT ENJOYING THIS PRIVATE SPACE WE CURRENTLY ENJOY.

THAT'S MY MOST CONCERN.

I ALWAYS, I SUPPORT WHAT MY NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING COMPLETELY TO THAT, BECAUSE WHAT I EXPECT FROM HOME IS A PRIVATE LIFE PEACEFULNESS AND JUST ENJOY THE SURROUNDINGS, NOT JUST TO LOOK AT SOMETHING.

OKAY, A BALL COMES ROLLING, WHAT WILL THEY DO? THEY WILL COME INTO OUR FIELD, OUR BACKYARDS.

THEY'LL TAKE IT.

IT'S NOT, I'M NOT AGAINST KIDS PLAYING OVER THERE, BUT I'M JUST AGAINST GIVING EVA A PIECE OF PRIVACY FOR SO MANY MONTHS FROM MARCH TO NOVEMBER IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

I, I THINK, UH, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.

HI.

I KNOW IT'S GETTING VERY LATE.

I'LL JUST TAKE TWO MINUTES.

MY NAME IS, UH, KUMAR, I STAY AT 6 9 4 1 POST PRESERVE BOULEVARD, JUST OPPOSITE THE, THE PROPOSED, UH, SOCCER AREA.

SO I, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO GIVE A, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

I, I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, IN HANDS WITH ALL THE, MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE JUST EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERN, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY LIKE 200% TRUE, RIGHT? MY SON PLAYS HIGH HOCKEY, RIGHT? SO I REALLY KNOW HOW THE VIOLENCE CAN TURN WHEN THESE HEAVY INTENSITY SPORTS ARE PLAYED.

AND SECOND ONE IS THE SOCCER ONE, RIGHT? SO WHENEVER THERE'S A VIOLENCE MEANS I CAN IMAGINE MYSELF BEING IN THOSE HOUSES, LIKE OPPOSITE HOUSES, MY NEIGHBOR HOUSES, HOW BAD IT WOULD BE LIKE SHOUTING, SCREAMING, AND HIGH INTENSITY.

AND DEFINITELY THAT IS NOT BEARABLE.

I WILL STRONGLY SUGGEST NOT TO APPROACH OR AGREE FOR THIS PROJECT AT ALL.

THAT'S ALL.

MY IMAGINATION, THAT IN THE BACKYARD OF MY NEIGHBORS, A PROPOSAL THAT IS COMMERCIALIZED WILL BE BROUGHT EVEN IN FRONT OF THE CITY.

HI.

MY NAME IS GARISH PATIA, AND UH, I LIVE IN 6 8 0 2 IS STILL HOUSE LANE.

ALL THE CONCERN RAGED BY MY FRIENDS, MY NEIGHBORS, UH, PRIVACY, NOISE, SECURITY.

THESE ARE SERIOUS CONCERN AND THESE SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED.

I STRONGLY URGE THE CITY TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL.

THIS IS, I'VE BEEN STAYING HERE IN DUBLIN, LIKE 25 YEARS BEYOND

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IT SHOULD BE REJECTED.

HELLO, MY NAME IS KARINA.

I'M LIVE IN 71 91 SPRING VIEW LANE, AND I ECHO ALL THE CONCERNS THAT MY ALBUS, UH, RAISED, AND I REQUEST, UH, THE COMPANY TO CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL SERIOUSLY.

AND WE ARE ALL AG, UH, FOR THIS PROPOSAL.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS SHETA TI.

I LIVE IN 6 9 4 1 POST PRESERVE.

BELOVED.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT HOW MUCH I WANTED TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I SACRIFICED BUILDING A NEW HOME IN THE PLAIN CITY JUST BECAUSE I WANTED TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE MY KIDS GROW IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT IS ESTABLISHED.

AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS AND AS MY OTHER FRIENDS MENTIONED THAT MY KIDS, I JUST LEAVE THEM OUTSIDE.

THEY JUST GO OUT AND PLAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SO GOOD, FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE IF THE SOCCER FIELD COMES UP.

I CANNOT LEAVE MY KIDS ALONE AT ALL.

THEY'RE NOT SAFE.

SO I KINDLY REQUEST YOU ALL TO NOT APPROVE THIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TENDENCY IN THESE SORTS OF SITUATIONS IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS GET USED TO, UH, HAVING SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT AND AS A BLANK CANVAS, AND THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S THEIR OWN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD.

AND, UH, JENNY, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? IT.

OKAY, MR. BOGGS? THANK YOU, MR. WE, UH, JUST BEFORE WE GO INTO THE COMMISSION'S DELIBERATION, AND GIVEN THE, UH, LARGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WE HAVE HERE, I WANTED TO JUST SHARE SORT OF WHAT IS GOING TO OCCUR NEXT.

SO THE APPLICATION IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE.

AND SO IN THAT KIND OF AN APPLICATION, THE COMMISSION ACTS AS A, WHAT'S CALLED A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY.

SO THEY TAKE THE EVIDENCE THAT'S PUT FORWARD IN THE APPLICATION AND THOSE MATERIALS, AS WELL AS THE TESTIMONY GIVEN BY THE APPLICANT AND STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THIS EVENING.

AND CONSIDER, UH, FACTS IN THAT TESTIMONY WITH RELATION TO A NUMBER OF STANDARDS FOR CONDITIONAL USES THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE CITY'S CODE.

UM, THE WAY THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS WORKS IS THAT THERE ARE 10 STANDARDS THAT AN APPLICANT MUST MEET TO SHOW, UH, THAT THEIR CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD BE APPROVED.

SO AS YOU HEAR THE COMMISSION DELIBERATE THIS EVENING, THEY WILL BE SPEAKING TO FACTS THAT ARE IN THE RECORD FOR THIS EVENING, UH, FIRSTHAND STATEMENTS OF FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH HOW PEOPLE, UH, USE THEIR PROPERTY, HOW THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO USE THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THINGS LIKE SPECULATION OR JUST SIMPLY THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS THAT ARE GIVEN, UM, WHILE VALUABLE, IT'S NOT SIMPLY A, A NUMBERS GAME IN THAT RESPECT.

THANK YOU, MR. BOB.

MR. GARBER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START OFF WITH OUR THANK MR. OH, MR. WADE? JUST AS A MATTER OF COURTESY, AND I DON'T, I DON'T, I KNOW WE ALL WANNA GET HOME.

UM, WOULD I HAVE THE CUR COURTESY OF A SHORT REBUTTAL GIVEN THE LENGTH OF, AND, AND I I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS TO CLARIFY.

GIVEN THE, THE NATURE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE AND THE APPLICANT HAVING THE BURDEN HERE, I, I WOULD AGREE IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THEY CAN HAVE A REBUTTAL.

OKAY, MR. GEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

FLOOR'S.

YOURS.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS BEING A COMMERCIAL VENTURE, AND AS I WAS SITTING BACK HERE, UM, WITH MR. HERRERA AND TALKING ABOUT THE PARTICULARS OF HIS, UH, THE CHURCH'S CONTRACT WITH THE, UH, SOCCER LEAGUE, THE INTENT IS NOT FOR THIS TO BE A PROFITABLE VENTURE FOR THE CHURCH.

THIS IS NOT A MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY.

THE, THE CONSIDERATION BEING GIVEN FOR THE LEASING OF THE PROPERTY IS TO MAKE, UH, TAKE CARE OF THE COST OF MAINTENANCE.

UM, THINGS LIKE STRIPING THE FIELDS, MOWING IT, UM, MAINTAINING, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THERE'S NO RUTS, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO TO CHARACTERIZE THIS AS A COMMERCIAL VENTURE IS, IS A STEP TOO FAR IN OUR OPINION, UM, FOR THAT REASON.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. BOGGS JUST HAD TO SAY.

UM, THE, UM,

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BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND, UM, THE CONCLUSION WAS REACHED BY THE STAFF THAT THIS WAS A CONDITIONAL USE AND A CONDITIONAL USE DOES GIVE YOU RIGHTS IN THE PROPERTY, SUBJECT TO THE WEIGHING OF THESE, THESE FACTORS, YOU KNOW, UM, BALD ASSERTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC OR CRIME, ET CETERA, ARE JUST THAT, THEIR OPINIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE TRAFFIC FRONT, WE WERE, WE DID EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY ASKED US TO DO.

THE SCOPE OF THE STUDY WAS DICTATED BY THEM.

UM, IT WAS A TRAFFIC GENERATION MEMO.

UH, THE CONCLUSIONS WERE PROVIDED, UH, TO ALL OF YOU.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO GO BEYOND THAT, IT'S JUST HEARSAY AND CONJECTURE.

AND SO I ASK YOU TO, TO STICK TO THE FACTS AS YOU HAVE THEM, BOTH FROM YOUR STAFF AND, AND FROM OUR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS.

I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS.

THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THIS IS MR. BUGS' POINT, UM, AS WELL, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN A ZONING CONTEXT, THERE'S A POLICY DECISION TO BE MADE.

YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY MAKING LAW.

AND JUST LIKE OUR WONDERFUL CONGRESS RIGHT NOW MAKES LAWS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN ALMOST TAKE ANYTHING THEY WANT UNDER CON TO CONSIDERATION WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE LAW.

AND THAT GIVES, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY A CITY COUNCIL WIDE DISCRETION.

WE ARE IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESS.

AND, UM, I WOULD ARGUE THAT, UM, YOUR OWN CITY STAFF, WHO YOU RELY ON A GREAT DEAL AND WHO WE'VE WORKED WITH VERY CLOSELY, HAD ZERO CONDITIONS AND HAS INDICATED ALL THE CRITERIA FOR CONDITIONAL USE OR MATTER, AT LEAST THE MAJORITY OF THEM, IN A SENSE THAT IT WARRANTED THEIR SUPPORT.

SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UM, A DECISION, UH, TO DENY THIS CONDITIONAL USE WOULD BE A DEC A DECISION THAT IS, UM, UH, IN, IN CONFLICT WITH THAT, UM, UH, I GUESS, UH, CONCLUSION BY YOUR STAFF.

AND I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS IN THE LIGHT IN WHICH, UH, IT, THIS IS, WHICH IS A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEED REBUT.

PLEASE LET THE, IT'S EX, EXCUSE ME, THE APPLICANT HAS THE FLOOR AT THE POINT.

ANYWAY, COMMENT, PERIOD IS CLOSED.

WE'RE LISTENING APPLICANT, MR. I, I UNDERSTAND THE EMOTION HERE, UM, BUT I, I JUST, THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT HAS THE FLOOR.

IT IS BEST FOR EVERYBODY REGARDLESS OF THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME THAT THE PROCEEDINGS ARE CONDUCTED WITH REGULARITY AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.

UM, WELL, I'M NOT SUBJECT TO THAT, BUT ANYWAY, I AM DONE.

OF A CITY FOR SAFETY AND PRIVACY.

WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR DELIBERATIONS, MR. GAR.

GAR.

GREAT.

GAR.

UM, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF POINTS WERE, UM, MADE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

UM, KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE, UM, BASED ON HOW COMPELLING I FELT THEY, THEY WERE.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION, UH, REGARDING COMMERCIAL USE.

'CAUSE THAT WAS, UH, SOMETHING UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ME.

I THINK THAT, UH, I DO, UH, I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, BELIEVE THAT, UH, IT IS NOT A PROFITABLE VENTURE.

THAT'S NOT THE IDEA FOR THE VENTURE HERE.

UM, I WASN'T AS COMPELLED BY THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE STATE, UH, OR, OR SORRY, EXISTING CONDITION OF THE LAND.

UM, JUST BECAUSE, UH, AS WAS ALLUDED TO, IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT OWNER AND, UM, IT'S, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD ALWAYS STAY THE SAME.

THE ONE THING I WOULDN'T POINT OUT THOUGH THAT I DID FIND COMPELLING WAS THE ARGUMENT ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUES.

AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR STIPULATIONS FOR CONDITIONAL USE.

UM, SO I GUESS WHAT I WOULD BRING TO THE BOARD IS, UM, I, I, FOR ME, THAT FIELD ONE IS REALLY THE, THE PROBLEM FIELD, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

UM, WITHOUT THAT I DON'T SEE, UM, AN ISSUE ON THE, THAT WEST SIDE, UM, THAT COULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES.

BUT, UH, I DID FEEL COMPELLED BY THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS WOULD PUT A LOT OF FANS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, UM, ON THOSE TOURNAMENT DATES.

UH, AS FOR PRACTICES, THE YEAR ROUND FOUR TO EIGHT 30, I THINK THAT POTENTIAL FOR, UM, NOISES VERY REDUCED FOR PRACTICE WITHOUT THE FANS THERE.

SO IT'D REALLY BE A CONCERN FOR ME OF THOSE TOURNAMENT DATES.

I THINK THAT PUBLIC AREAS ARE WOVEN THROUGHOUT OUR CITY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO, UH, PEOPLE'S HOMES.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXPECTATION

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I THINK OUR, OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICES DO A GREAT JOB OF MAINTAINING THAT.

UM, SO I GUESS FOR ME, THE ISSUE IS HOW MUCH DOES THAT, UH, THAT TOP FIELD THAT, UH, SORRY, WESTERN MOST FIELD, UM, AFFECT THE PRIVACY AND VALUE OF THOSE ADJACENT HOMES.

SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHERE YOU GUYS COME OUT.

THANK YOU, MR. DESLER.

THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION TO THE APPLICANT.

UM, MY TAKE, LOOKING AT THE, HOW MANY USES HERE, 10 CRITERIA, UH, IN MY EVALUATION, I FEEL THERE'S A FAILURE CURRENTLY TO MEET SIX OF THOSE, THAT'S NUMBERS 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, AND NINE.

I THINK IT'S REASONABLE EXPECTATION WHEN PEOPLE MOVE INTO AN AREA, REGARDLESS IF THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE A CHURCH, TO KNOW THAT THE, THAT BACK AREA, THEY MAY CHECK INTO IT, BUT THE BELIEF THAT IT COULD BE COMMERCIALIZED IS, IS NOT, IT'S, IT'S UNREASONABLE.

UM, AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL USE.

SO I'D I SAY THAT I, I I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA REJECT IT.

IT, THAT IF YOU'RE ON YOUR SECOND FLOOR OF YOUR HOME, YOU'RE STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT AS WELL TOO.

SO, MR. ALEXANDER, WELL, I'M REALLY TORN A LOT OF REASONS BECAUSE I THINK ON ONE, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY, THEY LIKE WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

WE ALSO SEE IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR CHURCHES TO SELL A PROPERTY.

AND WE SEE PUDS ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS.

CHURCHES SELL THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY MOVE.

SOME OTHER USE COMES TO THIS PROPERTY.

SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THIS SPACE WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE OPEN SPACE.

UM, AND WHAT THE PROPOSAL DOES IS IT PRESERVES GREEN SPACE, UM, WHICH IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE RARE IF IT WASN'T FOR OUR CODE.

IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES WE, WE FEEL HERE.

IT'S ALSO GONNA BENEFIT OTHER CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I REALIZE IT, IT PRESENTS A HARDSHIP FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S GONNA BENEFIT, UM, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, UM, THERE, THERE, THE, I I DO THINK THE PARKING ISSUE IS REALISTIC.

AND, AND I CAN SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE FROM MY OWN CHURCH HERE IN DUBLIN.

WE HAVE POSTED FIRE LANES AND MEMBERS PARK IN THOSE FIRE LANES, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE PLENTY OF PARKING SPACES BACK IN THE LOT, AND THESE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE OUTSIDERS, I, I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO POLICE PARKING THE WAY IT'S BEING PROPOSED.

UM, I THINK THE LEAST STRUCTURE IS AWKWARD IN THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, I THINK IS, IS A REAL QUESTION.

WHO'S ACCOUNTABLE? IS THE CHURCH ACCOUNTABLE OR ARE DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUES? I WAS HOPING SOMEONE FROM DUBLIN SOCCER LEAGUES WOULD BE HERE TO EITHER SUPPORT OR REFUTE MR. O'BRIEN'S STATISTICS.

UM, AND FOR ME, THE BIG ONE, AND IT'S SIMILAR TO, TO DAN'S POINT, BUT I'LL, BUT I'LL WORD IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

WE SUPPORT ADJACENT USES ON PROPERTIES WHEN THOSE PEAK TIMES DON'T CONFLICT, BUT THEY ACTUALLY COMPLIMENT.

BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PRO, IF THIS PROPERTY WERE DEVELOPED AS A SERIES OF SMALL OFFICE BUILDINGS WITH THE PROPER BUFFERS AND THINGS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE ACTIVITY.

AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS USE IS GONNA HAVE THE ACTIVITY, AND THIS USE IS HAVING THE ACTIVITY AT THE PEAK TIMES THE RESIDENTS ARE HOME.

SO I, I HAVE DIFFICULTY SUPPORTING THE PROPOSAL, SO THANK YOU.

I, I THANK YOU.

UH, PLEASE, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.

I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD DESCRIPTION ABOUT, UM, THE USE OF THE, THE LAND AND, AND WHAT IT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT IT COULD BE DOWN THE FUTURE.

I ALSO THINK IT'S A, A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THERE'S A LITTLE WALKWAY AND SO FORTH, BUT IT, IT, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC CALMING WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UM, WITH PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT AND IF THERE'S EXTRA PEOPLE COMING IN OUT OR DROPPING PEOPLE OFF, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC AREA, YOU COULD SEE THAT KIND OF HAPPENING.

AND, UH, ALL THAT COULD BE A, A DEFINITELY A DISRUPTION, UM, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO TO SOCCER FIELDS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE BIGGER THAN THIS FOR AS MANY THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND, UH, AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THAT CONCERN TOO, ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU ADEQUATELY BUFFER, COULD YOU ADEQUATELY DO THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE

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SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH DID REACH OUT TO, UM, THE CITIZENS.

I THINK YOU'RE HERE 'CAUSE THEY HAD SPOKEN WITH YOU AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT, AND YOU ALL GOT TOGETHER.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST PART OF, PART OF HOW THIS, THIS GOES AND SO FORTH.

SO, UM, BUT, AND I, I, I APPRECIATE THE CONDITIONS AT TIMES TOO THAT YOU MADE TOO ALONG THE WAY.

AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE POLICE OFFICER AND THINGS OF THAT SORT, UH, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY, UH, CONCERNS WITH THE SIZE AND, UH, AS MANY OF THE, UM, FIELDS THAT THERE ARE.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. HARD.

MR. CHINOOK, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE PRESENTATIONS.

I, I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE USE FOR THE VERY REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP WAS IT DOES PRESERVE GREEN SPACE.

IT DOES KIND OF MEET WITH THE ENVISION DUBLIN AS A RECREATIONAL USE.

AND I DO THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING THIS NICE FIELD THAT THE APPLICANT ALLOWS YOU TO USE, WHICH IS DIFFICULT WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE A CHANGE LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

BUT I DO THINK HAVING IT CONTROLLED, HAVING IT MONITORED, AND I THINK THE TWO DAYS OF THE YEAR WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE BUSY AND, YOU KNOW, THE PRACTICE TIMES, YOU KNOW, ACTIVATE THE SPACE AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE QUITE AS EXTREME AS MAYBE SOME, SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT.

HOWEVER, , I DO THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER PUBLIC COMMENT AS WE ALWAYS DO.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS HERE, AND I THINK THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK.

MAYBE IT'S MORE SCREENING, MAYBE THE HOURS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

MAYBE THERE'S SOME CONSENSUS HERE.

MAYBE THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO WORK A LITTLE BIT HARDER WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THIS WORK.

'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME THINGS THAT CAN, CAN IMPROVE.

UM, SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT UNTIL THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT PUT INTO IT, A LITTLE MORE WORK DONE ON IT.

AGAIN, IS IT FOR THE APPLICANT? IS IT MORE SCREENING? IS IT THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HALF AN HOUR, LESS AN HOUR LESS IN THE EVENINGS? IS THERE SOME OTHER KIND OF RESTRICTIONS THAT WE CAN PUT ON IT SO THE RESIDENTS FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, BUT IT ALSO MEETS SOME OF THE, THE RECREATIONAL USE AND SOME THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS, WITH THE PROPERTY.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHINOOK.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT AND PROVIDING YOUR COMMENT TO THIS BOARD.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE CONSIDER CASES LIKE THIS.

UM, I OBVIOUSLY, THIS AREA IS BEING USED INFORMALLY AS A RECREATION RESOURCE RIGHT NOW.

UM, I THINK THE THING THAT WORRIES ME IS THE INTENSITY THAT'S PLANNED, AND AGAIN, THE INTENSITY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A HARD THING TO MEASURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PRACTICE WAS, UH, GAMES LESS INTENSE THAN A TOURNAMENT OR, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY, WELL, 10 PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD BE MORE INTENSITY THAN REGULARLY OCCURRED.

SO MY CONCERNS IS ABOUT NOT IT AS A RECREATIONAL USE, BUT ABOUT THE INTENSITY AND AGAIN, THE TIMEFRAMES, THE AMOUNT OF MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THE DI THE TIMES OF THE DAY, AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO THE OTHER TERM THAT I'M SEEING HERE IN THE CONDITION IN THE IS HARMONIOUS.

UM, AND I THINK THE HARMONIOUS IS WHERE THERE STARTS TO GET THE CONFLICT WITH INTENSITY LEADS TO IT NOT BEING HARMONIOUS WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.

AND SO I'M STRUGGLING, UH, WITH THE INTENSITY OF THE USE PROPOSED AND THE, I GUESS THE THIRD THING YOU WOULD SAY IS I DON'T THINK THE APPLICANT HAS ADEQUATELY, UM, PROVIDED, UM, THE SCREENING BUFFERING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD HELP TO MITIGATE IT.

UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE PUT PLANT A TREE AT SIX FEET AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE EVERY WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE THAT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN EFFECTIVE SCREEN THAT WOULD AGAIN, HELP TO MITIGATE NOISE, PEOPLE MOVING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, UH, INDIVIDUAL LOTS, UM, DOING THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

SO, UM, I'M INCLINED TO BE CHALLENGED TO APPROVE THIS BASED ON, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS HARMONIOUS AS IT COULD BE.

I THINK AGAIN, STRONGER BUFFERING, MAYBE LESS FIELDS, UM, MIGHT MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE.

BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S ACTUALLY MEETING THE, ALL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE CRITERIA.

SO THAT'S MY, MY COMMENTS.

SO, UM, COMMISSION, OTHER, OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, OTHER DELIBERATION? NOT REALLY DELIBERATION, JUST KIND OF ASSESSING WHERE WE'RE AT.

IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY NO SUPPORT WITH WITHOUT CONDITIONS.

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UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPORT WITH CONDITIONS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH MAKING ANY HERE OR VOTING ON IT STRAIGHT UP.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? UM, I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION, CAN THE, WOULD THE APPLICANT TABLE THIS UNTIL THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND CONDITIONS OR, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION IS IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO TABLE IT AND BRING BACK, UH, REVISIONS BASED UPON THE HEARING THAT'S OCCURRED TONIGHT AND THE DELIBERATIONS OF THE COMMISSION.

UH, THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONTINUE ITS DELIBERATION AND ADDRESS SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT PERHAPS THE COMMISSION WOULD SUPPORT.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST NOW IS THE START OF SOCCER SEASON.

SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE RULES ABOUT RESUBMITTAL AND HOW LONG IN ADVANCE THOSE HAVE TO BE MADE, BUT ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS IF WE TABLE, HOW QUICKLY COULD WE BE BACK HERE IF WE'RE DILIGENT ON OUR PART? UM, IS THAT SARAH OR JENNY QUESTION? I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXISTING APPLICATION, SO IT WOULD BE ULTIMATELY WITHIN THAT 15 DAY RULE WINDOW OF THE NEXT OF A MEETING.

SO, BUT AGAIN, THAT PREDICATED ON YOU, YOU COMING TO TRYING TO COME TO SOME CONSENSUS OR ADDRESS.

IT'S 15 BUSINESS DAYS, IS THAT RIGHT? SO EFFECTIVELY IT'S MORE THAN 15 DAYS.

I THINK IT'S AT CALENDAR DAYS, I'M PRETTY SURE.

IS IT CALENDAR DAYS? YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME DEADLINES.

I MEAN, I THINK IF WE'RE NOT BACK HERE IN EARLY APRIL, THEN WE'VE PROBABLY GOT PROBLEMS. UM, SECONDLY IS, UM, IS MS CALL JUST ABSENT TONIGHT OR IS SHE NO LONGER, DO YOU ONLY HAVE SIX MEMBERS OR DO YOU HAVE SEVEN IS MY QUESTION? SHE, SHE IS ABSENT TONIGHT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE A SEVENTH MEMBER, WHICH, UM, I, I MEAN, I I GUESS I, IF IF THE ANSWER'S GONNA BE NO, UM, REGARDLESS, UM, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK THERE MAY BE A FEW TWEAKS WE COULD MAKE, BUT I, I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M PAID TO DO IS TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THAT'LL BE ENOUGH.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT COUNTING ENOUGH VOTES RIGHT NOW TO EVEN GET CLOSE.

SO, UM, IT'S THE OLD LINE FROM DUMB AND DUMBER.

IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S A CHANCE, MAYBE I'LL COME BACK, BUT IF NOT, WE'LL LET IT ROLL.

SO I, I, I DON'T KNOW, HOW DO YOU ANSWER THAT FOR ME WITHOUT ACTUALLY VOTING, BUT JUST TRYING TO READ THE TEA LEAVES.

I MEAN, I, I, I DID ASK THE QUESTION EARLIER ON ABOUT THE, THE, UH, COMMUNITIES, THE HOA COMMENTS THAT WERE, OR REC OR THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN YOU COMMENTED ON THOSE, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO FOLLOW UP TO ME.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO RESOLVE THAT CONVERSATION AND GET FEEDBACK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO YOUR SUGGESTIONS FROM THE HOA.

CAN I SAY SOMETHING NOW OR I DON'T KNOW, SIR, THE, IT'S CLOSED.

I MEAN, YOU CAN TAKE A STRAW POLL IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU WHAT, WHAT, WHERE I'M AT.

YEAH, LET'S DO A STRAW POLL.

SURE.

I'LL CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, FOR ME IT WOULD NEED TO BE A LOT MORE BUFFERING.

MY THOUGHT IS THAT I DON'T SEE HOW IT WORKS WITH THAT FIELD.

ONE, I'D NEED TO SEE MORE SPACE THERE.

I'M NOT AGAINST THE USE OF SOCCER FIELDS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE A LOT LESS IMPACTFUL ON THOSE NEIGHBORS.

AND THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, I I ALLUDED TO THAT CLOSER PARKING TO THE FIELDS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE DETERRENCE TOWARDS UTILIZING THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

SO IT'S NOT A NO FOREVER, BUT SURE.

NOT AS IS O ONE ONE IDEA WE HAD.

I'LL JUST THROW OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THIS, BUT IF WE, IF LET'S TAKE THE THIRD ONE DOWN.

THE, THE BIGGEST FIELD HERE.

IF WE COULD ANGLE THAT MORE TOWARDS THOSE TWO BUILDINGS, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHIFT THE SOCCER FIELDS TO THE RIGHT OF THAT ON OUR PLAN.

UM, LEFTWARD, WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE SOUTH AND POSSIBLY THAT MIGHT CREATE SOME ROOM TO BRING THE OTHER TWO FIELDS DOWNWARD ON THE PLAN, AND MAYBE WE COULD CREATE SOME SPACE THAT WAY.

WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE, UM, I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE LOOKED UPON FAVORABLY AND MAY SCORE SOME POINTS FOR ME.

THAT'D BE AN IMPROVEMENT.

UM, AND IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL AWAY FROM THAT NORTH END AS WELL.

A BIT TO ADD MORE BUFFER, BUT YEP.

MR. TE LER? YEAH, I, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, SURE.

I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THERE UNLESS THERE'S A MASSIVE OVERHAUL.

UH, AGAIN, I STATED THAT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE NOT SATISFIED, UH, SIX OF THE CRITERIA.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA HOLD OFF FOR NOW.

SO IF THERE'S, SO WOULD YOU BE SO YOU COULD NAVIGATE IT, THAT'S GREAT, BUT I'M, I'M PROBABLY A NO FOR THE LONG HAUL,

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MR. ALEXANDER.

IF, IF THERE WERE NO TOURNAMENTS, IF THERE WERE FEWER FIELDS, BOTH OF THOSE WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND IF THERE WAS A LOT MORE BUFFERING, THEN I MIGHT RECONSIDER MY POSITION RIGHT NOW.

APPRECIATE THAT.

HARDER, FEWER FIELDS ALSO BUFFERING, BUT IT REALLY HAS TO BE CLEAN.

MR. CHINOOK? YEAH, IT'S KINDA ECHO ECHO.

THE SAME THING.

I COULD BE, I COULD GET BEHIND IT IF, FOR THOSE CONDITIONS AND ALSO SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO COME TO SOME CLOSER ARRA.

I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE, BUT A BIT CLOSER WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S ASKING FOR.

AND, AND I HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WERE OPEN TO DIALOGUE.

THEY JUST FEEL LIKE SOME OF THEM DIDN'T FEEL THERE WAS, AND I WOULD BE REPEATING WHAT I SAID IN MY COMMENTS THAT INTENSITY AND BUFFERING AND SO REDUCED INTENSITY.

WE, WE WILL REQUEST A TABLE AND, UM, THE GOAL TO BE HERE IN APRIL SOMETIME IF WE CAN BE, UM, BUT WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT.

THANK YOU MR. UNDERHILL, THAT REQUIRES A MOTION.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO TABLE THE CASE BEFORE US.

IS THAT ADEQUATE MOTION TO TABLE THE CASE? SECOND.

SECOND.

MS. MAXWELL, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? CAN MR. GARVIN? YES.

CAN I, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CONTACT THE CITY DIRECTLY TO ASK ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA NOW, AND IF, IF YOU ALL COULD JUST, UM, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA STAY, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MOVE OUT, COULD YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE DOORS SO WE CAN, I THINK WE'RE ALMOST WRAPPED UP, BUT MS. RAUS, I, I HAVE NO COMMUNICATIONS COMMUNICATION, SO WE'RE GOOD.

SO WITH THAT, WE'RE ADJOURNED.