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MS. MAXWELL, COULD YOU, UH, TAKE US THROUGH THE ROLL CALL? MR. ALEXANDER? HERE.
MS. CALL IS ABSENT THIS EVENING.
MS. HARDER? HERE, MR. WAY HERE.
[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]
OKAY.NOW WE'D LIKE TO DO THE ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVALS, UH, OF THE MINUTES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 6TH, 2025 MEETING.
PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL CALL MS. HARDER.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD OF CITY COUNCIL WHEN REZONING AND PLOTTING A PROPERTY ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION.
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[Case #24-159AFDP]
THERE IS ONE CASE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CA CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING.CASE 24 1 5 9 A FDP SAR NOVA HEADQUARTERS AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION WISH TO HAVE THE CASE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE CASE? THANK YOU.
UM, I WILL, UM, ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT THAT INCLUDES THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE, UH, CASES TONIGHT.
UM, WAIT, DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? YEAH.
THE CASE REVIEW, UM, CASE NUMBER 25
[Case #25-010AFDP]
DASH 0 1 0 A FDP DUBLIN CIO BUILDING ADDITIONS.UH, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR TWO BUILDING ADDITIONS TO AN EXISTING SCHOOL.
THE 65.25 ACRE SITE IS ON PUD PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NORTHEAST QUAD, AND IS LOCATED NORTH OF THE HARD ROAD AND BRYSON COVE CIRCLE INTERSECTION.
SO WE'D FIRST LIKE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
HEY KIM, I'M GONNA STEP OUT REAL QUICK FOR RECUSAL.
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YOU READY FOR ME? THE FLOOR IS YOURS.WELL, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU.
I'M WITH FANNING HOWIE ARCHITECTS.
UH, WE ARE LOCATED AT 5,200 UPPER METRO PLACE, SUITE THREE 50 HERE IN DUBLIN, 4 3 0 1 7.
UH, WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DUBLIN CITY SCHOOLS, UH, REQUESTING A TWO STORY ACADEMIC WING EDITION, AS WELL AS A SMALL DINING COMMONS EXPANSION AT THE DUBLIN CIO HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS, LOCATED AT 4,000 HARD ROAD.
TAMMY, IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING TWO SLIDES ACTUALLY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
UH, THE EXISTING TWO STORY HIGH SCHOOL CONSISTS OF MOSTLY BRICK MASONRY EXTERIOR FACADES WITH STUCCO ACCENTS, A COMBINATION OF FLAT ROOF AND SLOPED METAL ROOF AREAS, AS WELL AS EXPOSED COLUMN ACCENTS AND SELECT AT SELECT CORNERS AND ENTRIES OF THE BUILDING.
UM, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SLIDE, UH, ARE A FEW IMAGES OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE DINING COMMONS.
AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE IS ARE IMAGES OF THE NORTH LAWN BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING ACADEMIC PODS, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, THE NEW ACADEMIC EDITION.
UH, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION THESE IMAGES TO THE BRICK, BOTH THE FIELD BRICK AS WELL AS THE SUBTLE BRICK ACCENT BANDING.
YOU ALSO NOTICE THE ALUMINUM STOREFRONT WINDOW SYSTEM WAS SLIGHTLY TINTED GLAZING, AS WELL AS THE EXPOSED COLUMN ACCENT IN, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO ACCOMMODATE 600 ADDITIONAL STUDENTS BY AUGUST OF 2026, WE ARE PROPOSING A TWO STORY 56,000 SQUARE FOOT ACADEMIC WING TO THE NORTH OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE LARGER GREEN BLOCK, UH, IN THE DIAGRAM ON THE SCREEN.
AND AS A RESULT OF THE ADDITIONAL 600 STUDENTS ON CAMPUS, UH, THE EXISTING CAFETERIA REQUIRES, UH, EXPANSION OF APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, TO SUPPORT THE ADDED POPULATION.
AND THE CAFETERIA EXPANSION IS REPRESENTED IN THE SMALLER GREEN BLOCK ON THE LEFT SIDE, UH, OF THE DIAGRAM.
AND THEN ON YOUR SCREEN IS AN ENLARGED FIRST FLOOR PLAN, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE SEAMLESS INTEGRATION OF THE ACADEMIC EDITION, AS WELL AS OUR EFFORT TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE DAY-TO-DAY SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
UH, THE ACADEMIC WING, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IS SHOWN IN GREEN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.
IT CONSISTS OF 10 CLASSROOMS, THREE SPECIAL LEARNING COMMUNITIES, CLASSROOMS, AS WELL AS STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES.
THE CAFETERIA EXPANSION IS SHOWN IN GREEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.
IT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF ADDITIONAL INDOOR DINING SPACE AND 2000 SQUARE FEET OF COVERED OUTDOOR DINING SPACE.
AND THEN THE NEXT IMAGE IS THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE FLOOR PLAN.
UM, AND THIS, THIS IS OF AND HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN.
THIS IS THE ACADEMIC EDITION, ACADEMIC EDITION, WHICH MIMICS THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, FOOTPRINT AS WELL AND CONSISTS OF 14 CLASSROOMS, MECHANICAL SPACE AND STUDENT SUPPORT SPACES.
NOW, THE ACADEMIC WING AND CAFETERIA EXPANSION ARE DESIGNED TO MATCH THE EXTERIOR FENESTRATION MATERIALS, SCALE, AND MASS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING AS TO SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATE INTO THE OVERALL CAMPUS.
THE RENDERING ON THE SCREEN IS A VIEW FROM THE NORTHWEST, LOOKING AT THE EXISTING ACADEMIC POD ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND THE NEW ACADEMIC WING EDITION ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THE SAME BRICK MATERIAL AND PATTERNING THE SAME WINDOW RHYTHM PATTERN AND GLAZING WITH A STUCCO BAND JUST BELOW THE ROOF EVES AND A SLOPE METAL ROOF MATCHING THE PITCH AND HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING ADJACENT ROOFS.
UH, THE NEXT VIEW IS OF THE EAST ELEVATION OF THE NEW ADDITION, WHICH IS IN THE FOREGROUND AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE IMAGE.
UH, THIS VIEW SHOWCASES THE SAME USE OF BRICK MASONRY, STUCCO AND METAL ROOFING WHILE HIGHLIGHTING THE APPLICATION OF A STUCCO ACCENT MEDALLION AND EXPOSED COLUMN DETAIL THAT EXISTS ACROSS CAMPUS.
AND THEN THE FINAL RENDERING IS OF THE CAFETERIA EXPANSION.
UH, IN THE FOREGROUND, YOU WILL NOTICE THE COVERED OUTDOOR DINING AREA WITH THE NEW GLASS FACADE
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OF THE INDOOR DINING AREA JUST BEYOND, UH, THE GLAZING AND WINDOW FRAME MATERIAL AND PATTERN MATCHES THE EXISTING SYSTEM UTILIZED THROUGHOUT CAMPUS.NOW, AS FOR THE EXTERIOR MATERIAL SELECTIONS, UH, WE ARE MATCHING THE FIELD BRICK OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING AND THAT IS SHOWN AS BRICK COLOR.
A UH, THE ORIGINAL ACCENT BRICK IS NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION.
SO, BUT WE ARE UTILIZING AS CLOSE AS MATCH AS WE WERE ABLE TO FIND, AND THAT IS SHOWN AS BRICK COLOR B.
AND I HAVE THOSE SAMPLES TONIGHT IN MY BAG OF GOODIES IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT 'EM IN MORE DETAIL.
UM, THE PROPOSED MASONRY GROUT HAS BEEN COLOR MATCHED AND WILL BE APPLIED IN AN OVER GROUT APPLICATION METHOD, AS IS THE TECHNIQUE USED ON THE EXISTING BUILDING.
AND THEN THE ANODIZED ALUMINUM WINDOW SYSTEM WILL MATCH THE EXISTING CHAMPAGNE FINISH AND THE GLAZING WILL MATCH THE SAME TINTING AS THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
UH, WE ARE ALSO MATCHING THE ACCENT STUCCO BAND, BOTH THE SAND PEBBLE TEXTURE AS WELL AS THE SANDSTONE COLOR.
WE'RE ALSO REPLICATING THE STUCCO ACCENT MEDALLION ON THE ACADEMIC EDITION.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, IN THE CENTER OF YOUR IMAGE ON THE, WHICH IS AN IMAGE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, UH, THE ROOF, THE METAL ROOF AREAS WILL BE THE SAME STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF PROFILE AND FINISH.
NOW, ONE UNIQUE DETAIL OF THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THERE ARE NO ROOF GUTTERS ON THE EXISTING ACADEMIC ACADEMIC WINGS.
AND, UH, WE CAN, WE ARE INTENDING TO CONTINUE THAT APPROACH OF NOT HAVING ROOF GUTTERS ON OUR ACADEMIC WING ADDITION.
AND THEN THE, UM, NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A COUPLE MORE IMAGES OF THE SAMPLES THAT I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT, UH, AGAINST THE ORIGINAL BUILDING FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
UH, THE FIRST TWO IMAGES ARE OF BRICK COLOR, A, THAT IS THE FIELD BRICK.
UH, YOU'LL NOTICE JUST THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT COLORS 'CAUSE IT'S TAKEN IT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY.
UH, THE MIDDLE IMAGES OF BRICK COLOR B, WHICH IS AGAIN THE ACCENT BANDING, UH, THE BRICK MORTAR COLOR.
AND THEN FINALLY THE WINDOW AND DOORFRAME MATERIAL AND COLOR.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST TWO SLIDES ARE JUST A COUPLE MORE TECHNICAL ELEVATIONS THAT SHOW, UH, THE ELEVATIONS IN DETAIL AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE IS THE NORTH ELEVATION.
BELOW THAT IS THE WEST ELEVATION.
ON THE FAR RIGHT IS THAT, UH, STUCCO ACCENT, JUST, UH, ENLARGED.
AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION, THE EAST ELEVATION.
AND THEN THE TWO, UH, SMALLER ELEVATIONS ON THE RIGHT ARE THE CAFETERIA EXPANSION.
UH, AND WITH THAT, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MEGAN TO DISCUSS KIND OF THE TECHNICAL SITE PLANNING AND SITE ENGINEERING OF OUR PROPOSAL.
I'M MEGAN SEER WITH THE KLEINER GROUP THREE 50 WORTHINGTON ROAD, SUITE H WESTERVILLE, OHIO 4 3 0 8 2.
UM, IN THE PLAN THAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, UM, IS OUR SITE LOGISTICS PLAN.
UH, THE NEW ADDITION BEING LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
WE ARE REQUESTING A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION DRIVE ACCESS CURB CUT TO HARD ROAD, UH, WITH THE INTENT TO HELP MAINTAIN SEPARATION OF BUS TRAFFIC AND STUDENT AND STAFF TRAFFIC DURING THE DAY AS WELL.
AND WE ARE ALSO, UM, AS PART OF THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, UH, WE ARE REMOVING TREES, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND WE ARE PUTTING THEM BACK, REPLACING THEM PER THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, WE'VE LOCATED THEM ALONG THE MAJORITY OF THEM ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE NEW ADDITION TO HELP BREAK UP, UM, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THE VIEW OF THAT, UM, THE ELEVATIONS THAT TODD HAD SHOWN, UH, DON'T HAVE THESE TREES IN THEM, BUT THEY WILL BE THERE, UM, WHEN AFTER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.
AND SO WE'RE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT TAMMY HAS TOO.
UH, WE'LL HOLD HER QUESTIONS UNTIL AFTER THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
SO, MS. NOBLE, ARE YOU READY? READY.
SO THE APPLICANT'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES FOR THE SCHOOL AND GENERALLY WHAT THE APPLICATION IS PROPOSING JUST FOR PROCESS, UH, CONVERSATIONS FOR THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS AN AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND IT, IT DOES INCLUDE TWO ADDITIONS THAT THE SCHOOL IS PROPOSING.
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UH, IN TERMS OF PROCESS.THE ORIGINAL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE SCHOOL WAS IN 1993.
UM, AND WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL, UM, AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS, INCLUDING TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION REGARDING AMENDMENTS FOR THE SCHOOL, UH, THAT WILL CONTINUE AS THEY ADD, UH, TO THE SCHOOL'S, UH, SITE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE COMMISSION TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW THIS PROPOSAL ALIGNS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TEXT THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE SCHOOL.
DOES IT, UM, ADHERE TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WE'VE PROPOSED? SO THE SITE IN GENERAL, IT'S A 65 ACRE SITE.
ITS NORTH OF HARD ROAD, JUST WEST OF SAW ROAD.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE, UM, NORTHWEST NORTHEAST QUAD, UH, PUD.
AND THIS IS CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN THAT, UH, QUAD.
IT'S A QUITE LARGE, UH, PLANNED DISTRICT.
UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THE, UH, PRIMARY BUILDINGS IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE WITH PARKING SURROUNDING IT, AND ATHLETIC FIELDS TO THE NORTH EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THIS IS JUST SHOWING, SHOWING, UH, WHERE ELEMENTS OF ADDITIONS ARE BEING PROPOSED AND THE SITE CONDITIONS SURROUNDING, UH, WHERE THE ADDITIONS ARE PROPOSED.
IN TERMS OF THE TWO, UH, ADDITIONS, AGAIN, THE PRIMARY ADDITION IS THE ACADEMIC WING.
I'M CALLING IT THE ACADEMIC WING, WHICH IS TO THE REAR OF THE, UH, BUILDING.
IT'S A 5,600 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION, UH, CENTRALLY LOCATED BETWEEN TWO EXISTING, UH, NODES OF THE BUILDING.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A 6,200 SQUARE FOOT DINING, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS BUILDING IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS TO ADDRESS, UH, INCREASED STUDENT POPULATIONS WITHIN THE BUILDING.
UM, AS PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY ARE PROPOSING A PATHWAY THAT WILL CON CONNECT THE TWO ADDITIONS.
AND THERE IS A DETENTION, DETENTION REPEAT DETENTION BASIN, SORRY.
UM, FOR THE, UH, NEW ADDITION IN TERMS OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT, UH, MEGAN TOUCHED ON THIS SLIGHTLY, BUT THERE ARE THREE EXISTING, UM, CURB CUTS FROM HARD ROAD, ALL OF WHICH THAT ACCESS, UH, PARKING AREAS IN THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
THEY ARE PROPOSING A FOURTH ACCESS POINT THAT WOULD ALLOW, UH, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS A TEMPORARY ACCESS POINT.
IT IS NOT A PERMANENT ACCESS POINT, UM, OF WHICH THE CITY HAS CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY FROM THE SCHOOL POPULATION, UM, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT DOES, UM, NEED TO BE REMOVED UPON, UH, THE COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.
IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURE, AGAIN, I WON'T, I WON'T UH, BELABOR THIS, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF MATCHING THE EXISTING COMPONENTS TO, UH, THE BUILDING WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED IN NOT ONLY THE LARGE ADDITION, BUT THE, UM, DINING FACILITIES OF WHICH COVERS THE AREA AND AGAIN, USES ELEMENTS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH, WITH THE MATERIALS THAT ARE, UH, CURRENTLY ON SITE.
IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CONDITIONS, UM, TO MEET OUR, UM, CRITERIA THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, THE, UM, CONDITIONS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERING STAFF TO CONTINUE WITH STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS, WORKING WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE, UH, WITH FIRE, UH, SUPPRESSION FOR THE BUILDING.
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SPECIFICALLY THAT THE, UM, APPLICANT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH OUR ENGINEERING STAFF TO MEET, UH, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
THAT THE TEMPORARY ACCESS NOT ONLY BE REMOVED UPON COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT THAT THE SITES RESTORED TO AN EQUAL OR IMPROVED CONDITIONS OF THE SITE, UM, PRIOR TO THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND THAT THE APPLICANT WORKS WITH THE WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE FIRE ACCESS.
AND OF COURSE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT TEAM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UM, LET US KNOW.
OKAY, LET'S OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS.
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US OFF? YEAH.I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
ONE THING I NOTICED, UH, WITH THE ADDITION, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T NOTICE ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING.
IS THERE A NEED FOR THAT AT THIS TIME OR IS THAT BEING CONSIDERED OR WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE AS THE EXPANSION TAKES PLACE? SO, ZONING CODE, SORRY, THOUGHT I WAS ON.
SO PER THE ZONING CODE, WE ARE MEETING PARKING PER THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, UM, PER THE ZONING CODE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, SEVERAL, I GUESS, WAYS THAT YOU CAN CALCULATE THE PARKING.
ONE IS BASED ON CLASSROOMS AND STUDENT POPULATION.
ANOTHER IS THE SIZE OF THE AUDITORIUM, AND THE THIRD IS THE SIZE OF THE STADIUM, THE SEATS AND THOSE GATHERING ASSEMBLY SPACES.
UM, CURRENTLY THE SIZE OF THE STADIUM AND THE BLEACHERS, UH, AND THEN ALSO THE, THAT I, THAT'S WHAT IS, UM, REQUIRING THE, THE MOST PARKING, THE ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS AND THE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS DO NOT CHANGE THAT NUMBER.
AND TAMMY, COULD YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT STAGE IF, UM, IF IT WERE TO BE APPROPRIATE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY TRAFFIC STUDY NEEDED FOR THE ADDITION? OR IS THAT SOMETHING RELEVANT IN THIS CASE? YEAH, FOR AN MFI DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT'S NOT APPLICABLE.
AND THEY REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
DOESN'T THE, THE SITE HAVE A LARGE RETENTION POND IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY? IT DOES, YES.
AND COULD YOU, UM, IS IT CAPACITY, IS IT DISTANCE? COULD YOU INDICATE WHY MAYBE YOU'RE NOT USING THAT RETENTION POND FOR THE ADDITIONS? IT IS BEING CONSIDERED IN OUR CALCULATIONS AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, UM, THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE STORAGE THAT WE NEED FOR THE ADDITION, UH, IN THOSE CALCULATIONS.
SO THERE'S ALSO BEEN SINCE THAT, WHEN THAT UH, SITE WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1993, THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FROM A EP, A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, WATER QUALITY PERSPECTIVE THAT WE'RE ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WITH THIS ADDITION AS WELL.
SO THE, UM, NEW STORM WATER WILL MEET THOSE WATER QUALITY, CURRENT WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EPA AS WELL.
UM, ARE THERE, AM I CORRECT, ARE THERE ACTUALLY TWO DETENTION PONDS PER CORRECT.
THERE IS ONE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE BUILDING AND THE GRADES, IT KIND OF SITS AT A SADDLE POINT.
SO WE HAVE DRAINAGE CONVEYED TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST.
BOTH ARE ALL TRIBUTARY TO THE CURRENT POND.
UM, AND SO WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THOSE IN OUR CALCULATIONS SO THAT WE'RE STILL MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SENDING MORE STORM WATER OFFSITE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY GOING THAT WAY.
AND IT, IS IT NOT FEASIBLE TO COMBINE THOSE? IT IS NOT, NO.
WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE ONE RATHER LARGE TO LET THE OTHER GO DETAINED THE, I TRYING TO, I WAS LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING, BECAUSE THERE'S ONE OF, I THINK THE MORE SUCCESSFUL DETENTION PONDS IS ON BRAND ROAD, WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE A REALLY LARGE RAIN GARDEN BECAUSE IT'S PLANTED WITH TREES AND AND LANDSCAPE IN THAT.
IS, IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR, IS IT POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A BIG UTILITY UNDERNEATH IT, ONE OF 'EM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PLANT IT SO IT LOOKS MORE GARDEN LIKE OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE A, A, A PIT WITH GRASS ON IT? WE HOPE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A PIT WITH GRASS, BUT, UM, IT, UH, THERE ARE SOME TREES IN THE EASTERN BASIN ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, THESE WATER, THESE LOCATIONS ARE STORM WATER DETENTION.
SO WHEN A RAIN EVENT OCCURS, IT WILL HOLD THE WATER AND THEN THE WATER WILL ALL BE RELEASED.
SO IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE A GRASS AREA WHEN IT'S DONE.
IT WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THE POND THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE ON HARDWARE.
BUT SO MY POINT IS WHEN, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA BE OPEN MORE THAN IT'S CLOSED WITH, WITH WATER.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IS THERE GOING TO BE LANDSCAPE, AND YOU MENTIONED IN ONE, BUT HOW ABOUT THE OTHER ONE? THE OTHER ONE IS DIFFICULT WITH THE, UH, STORM WATER, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE UNDERNEATH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING THE WATER QUALITY.
UM, WE COULD LOOK AND, AND LOCATE SOME TREES IN AND AROUND THAT BASIN TO TRY AND CONVEY THE SAME LOOK THAT WE'RE OBTAINING ON THE EAST SIDE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, HAVE YOU ALL MET WITH PARENTS AND TEACHERS AND JUST GOING OVER YOUR PLAN AND, UM, JUST INFORMING THE PUBLIC? UH, WE HAVE CERTAINLY MET WITH TEACHERS ALL THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
UM, I'D ACTUALLY HAVE TO, UH, REFER TO JEFF STARK OF THE COMMUNICATION TO PARENTS, UM,
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ON A GREATER PROCESS OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.JEFF STARK, 63 71 SHIRE RINGS ROAD AT THE DISTRICT.
UH, THE PRINCIPAL HAD, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, WITH HIS PARENTS AND WE MET WITH THE PRINCIPAL.
WE MET WITH TEACHERS, UH, MOSTLY WITH PRINCIPALS AND UH, WAS MORE OF A, LIKE A REPUBLIC STRUCTURE, UH, THAT HE MET WITH THEM.
BASICALLY ALL THE TEACHERS ALSO GOT TO TOUR THE JEROME SITE BECAUSE THIS MIMICS, UH, WE WERE, WE UM, WE WERE IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD JUST A FEW YEARS AGO FOR THE JEROME EDITION.
THE JEROME EDITION IS ALMOST A REPLICA OF THIS EDITION.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE OF THE LAYOUT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME TYPE.
SO, UM, AND THIS IS SUCH A FAST, FAST MOVING PROJECT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A ROBUST COLLABORATIVE PLAN JUST BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT AND THE GREAT NEED.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE GOT THE TEACHERS INVOLVED, THE PRINCIPAL, AND THE PRINCIPAL I THINK HAS COMMUNICATED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FROM THERE.
UM, IN THE CAFETERIA AREA, YOU HAVE A, A WIDE, UM, SPECTRUM OF, OF GLASS THAT, THAT COVERS THAT AREA AROUND THE SCHOOL.
THAT TINTED IS, UM, A TINTED THAT IS LIKE A SPECIAL GLASS THAT CAN'T BE BROKEN.
IT WAS A SPECIAL FILM PUT ON IT.
WILL THAT HAVE THAT ON THOSE WINDOWS AS WELL TOO? WE HAVE, WE, WE HAVE A STANDING OPERATING PROCEDURE, UH, A SPECIAL FILM.
AND IT'S NOT AT ALL PLACES 'CAUSE WE LEAVE SOME OPEN WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUST THROUGH.
BUT WE'RE, UM, WE'RE VERY DISCREET IN HOW WE, WE PUBLICIZE THAT.
BUT WE DO HAVE THAT TYPE OF, WE HAVE A FILM THAT'S NOT UNRE.
WHAT IT DOES IS IT GIVES A, AN EXTRA 20 TO 30 SECONDS BEFORE THE, THE, THE GLASS CAN BE ACTUALLY BROKEN.
AND OBVIOUSLY THAT 20, 30 SECONDS MAKES A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT AT, UH, WE HAVE IT AT ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS AND ALL OF OUR NEW STRUCTURES NOW.
AND YOU'LL WORK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE'S AGREEABLE TO.
I DON'T THINK THE FIRE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH, UH, UH, UH, INPUT USUALLY ON THAT.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT A FIRE HAZARD OR ANYTHING.
BUT, UM, UH, BUT WE WORK WITH ALL APPLICABLE, ANYONE ANYONE'S APPLICABLE.
YOU ACTUALLY WORK WITH, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT GETTING OUT.
IF, IF IT'S A NON BREAKABLE GLASS AND THAT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THERE.
YEAH, USUALLY THE DESIGN GROUP TELLS US, WHICH ARE LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCH A, SCIOTO IS SUCH AN AREA OF ART.
UM, IS THIS A WAY OF INCORPORATING IN, ESPECIALLY IN THAT CAFETERIA OUTDOOR AREA ART? AND ON TOP OF THAT QUESTION IS, DO YOU SEE OUTDOOR CLASSROOMS? SO, BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE PUT A, LIKE A NICE PERGO ON TOP OF IT AND, UM, THERE'LL BE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO SIT AND I THINK THEY'LL USE IT A LOT MORE.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE SOME MORE GRASS AREA.
AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UP TO, THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE PRINCIPAL AND THE ADMINISTRATION THERE AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE IT.
OUR BASIC FUNCTION RIGHT NOW IS TO GIVE THEM THE SPACE FOR THE STUDENTS AND THE OPERATING ROOM FOR IT.
AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE SIDEWALK GOING AROUND.
I'M CALLING IT A SIDEWALK, BUT TONIGHT YOU CALLED IT A PATH.
UM, IT WAS, WAS THERE A VISION WITH THAT? THAT IT KIND OF CIRCLED THE BUILDING? 'CAUSE IT WASN'T THERE BEFORE? IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE DO HAVE, AT ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS, WE TRY TO HAVE AS MANY WALKING PATHS AS POSSIBLE.
UH, NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE SCHOOL, BUT TO, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATE THEIR WAYS AROUND IT.
SO REALLY THE INPUT HERE WAS JUST, UH, TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE OUTSIDE, TO NEGOTIATE, NEGOTIATE AROUND THE BUILDING AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
UM, I JUST HAVE A, A FEW, UM, ONE, I HAD A, A BASIC KIND OF BIG PICTURE QUESTION.
WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MASTER PLAN FOR IT, AND I JUST WONDERED IF ANYBODY KNOWS IF AN ADDITION WAS CONTEMPLATED AT THE POINT OF WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT, OR IS THIS JUST COME ALONG BECAUSE OF NEED? UM, WELL, FANNING HOWIE DESIGNED THE BUILDING IN 1995.
SO WE HAVE ALL THE ORIGINAL PLANS.
THE ONLY MASTER PLAN PIECE WAS ACTUALLY THE ADDED, UH, THEATER, WHICH HAPPENED JUST A COUPLE YEARS LATER.
UH, THERE WAS NOT A MASTER PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM EXPANSION OF THIS SIZE.
UM, THE OTHER THING I, AND IT WAS AN ISSUE I WAS GOING TO, UH, RAISE, BUT I THINK YOU'VE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED IT WAS, YOU SAID IT'S, THERE'S NO GUTTERS, SO THE WATER'S SHOOTING OFF OF THE ROOF, AND I ASSUME IN THE EXISTING, UM, SCHOOL, IT'S JUST GOING DOWN INTO GRASS.
THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN ALL OF THE IMAGES.
THERE'S NO NOTHING TO RECEIVE THE WATER OTHER THAN JUST A, A GRASS ENVIRONMENT.
IS THAT RIGHT? UH, YES, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT THERE.
AND PART OF, SO IT, THE BUILDING HAS REALLY LARGE OVERHANGS, WHICH ENABLES US TO DO THAT.
SO IT ROLLS OFF IN THE ADDITION, THERE IS A FIVE FOOT WIDE MO DRIP, WHICH HAS A, UH, FRENCH DRAIN UNDERNEATH IT THAT TAKES ALL THAT WATER TO THE UNDERGROUND THAT MEGAN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THAT WAS THEIR ORIGINALLY IN THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
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HAS SINCE GRASS HAS GROWN INTO THAT, WHICH IS WHY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY GRASS.UM, BUT UNDERNEATH THERE THE ROCKS ARE STILL THERE AND THE DRAIN IS STILL THERE.
SO OTHERWISE, IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT IT, IT WOULD JUST BE A, HONESTLY, A MUD PIT AROUND THAT AREA.
SO THAT STUFF IS STILL THERE, WHICH WAS MY CONCERN.
BUT ALL OF THE IMAGES DON'T SHOW IT LIKE THAT.
IT SHOWS, IT IS GRASS GOING RIGHT UP TO THE BUILDING.
SO I, AND I WAS, AND I, AND I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT YOU PUT IN THAT, THAT FIVE FOOT, UM, MAINTENANCE EDGE WATER, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY POROUS ROCK ENVIRONMENT THAT IT RECEIVED THE WATER, IS THAT RIGHT? OR IS IT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THE LITTLE SECTION AND IT LOOKS VERY LIKE, IT'S ALMOST PAVED, LIKE IT'S IN MORTAR OR SOMETHING IN, OR IS IT JUST NATURAL? IT, IT'S JUST A, UM, IT'S JUST A RIVER ROCK MO STRIP.
THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK IS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BUILDING.
SO THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH WHERE THE WATER'S COMING DOWN.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE, UM, MADE SURE THAT WE HAVE SNOW GUARDS ON THE ROOF ABOVE ANY EXITS AND, UH, SO WE'VE KEPT THOSE TWO SEPARATE.
UM, JUST WANTED THE, THE ISSUE OF THE SIDEWALK, I ASSUME THAT'S ALSO, UH, FIRE, UM, ACCESS OR EGRESS.
IT, IT IS THAT YOU HAD TO FIRE DOORS.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PAVED WALKWAY TO GET OUT, RIGHT? YES.
THE, THE, THE SIDEWALKS ARE CONNECT TO ALL THE EMERGENCY EXITS, RIGHT? UH, AS REQUIRED BY CODE.
IT, THOSE ARE NOT FOR, UM, EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
BUT IN ADDITION TO JUST ADDING A RECREATIONAL PATH, THAT'S ALSO SERVING FOR FIRE EGRESS.
UM, I THINK NOW, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS.
WE'D LIKE TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY INTERESTED IN COMMENTING ON THIS CASE? PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM AND THE MICROPHONE IS OFF.
THANK, UH, JENNY, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FROM, OKAY.
UM, SO NOW WE HAVE THE DUTY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION.
UM, UM, I WOULD, UH, WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH CONDITIONS.
DO YOU WANNA, DID YOU WANT TO HAVE COMMISSION DISCUSSION? OH, I AM SO AMBITIOUS TONIGHT.
YES, LET'S DELIBERATION PLEASE.
I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLAN WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS PUT FORWARD.
I THINK THAT THE ARCHITECTURE'S PRETTY LOGICAL.
I THINK THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
I THINK THEY ARE ENHANCING IT.
UH, THEY'RE ADDING ALL THE LITTLE DETAILS THAT NEED TO COME WITH IT.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER SCHOOLS, EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN LITTLE, UM, UNIQUENESS.
AND I THINK THAT BRINGS, YOU'RE BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
YOU'RE ADDING IN THOSE SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS GREAT.
THE LAST THING TOO IS, UM, WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT ROAD COMING IN, THE EXTRA, UH, YOU'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WITH SOME OTHER MAINTENANCE AND THE PUBLIC IS PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT.
AND GOOD SIGNAGE WILL KEEP EVERYBODY OUT OF THAT.
SO I, I APPLAUD YOU ALL AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
I'M ALSO VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION AND, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO THROUGH.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE DELIBERATIONS AND WE CAN NOW MAKE A MOTION
UM, SO, UM, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPRO FOR APPROVAL OF THE FINAL AMENDED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH CONDITIONS.
WE'LL BRING JASON BACK IN NOW AND WE CAN PROCEED WITH OUR NEXT CASE, C
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AS MR. DRESSLER IS SITTING DOWN.WE WILL, UH, GO AHEAD WITH THE NEXT CASE.
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DASH 0 0 5 A DMC CODE AMENDMENTS.UH, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS TO SECTION 1 5 3 0.076.
REGARDING PROPERTY NUISANCE REGULATIONS.
UH, STAFF PRESENTATION PLEASE.
UM, SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING CODE, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SECTION.
SO YOU'LL RECALL IN NOVEMBER WE WERE HERE AND INTRODUCED SORT OF FOUR, UM, POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS.
YOU SAW THREE OF THEM AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
UM, WE NEEDED A LITTLE BIT EXTRA, UM, TWEAKING OF THIS, UM, PARTICULAR DRAFT.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS LAGGING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
SO, UM, THE, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SECTION OF THE CODE, UM, WHICH IS WHAT REGULATES AND PROTECTS THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE CITY.
UM, AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT OUR, UM, A LOT OF WHAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM USES, UM, TO ENSURE THAT PROPERTY VALUES ARE MAINTAINED, PEOPLE ARE MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY, UM, THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENT STANDARDS, UM, RELATED TO THOSE PARTICULAR POTENTIAL PUBLIC NUISANCES.
UM, AND REALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE, RIGHT, THAT WE'RE HAVING SAFE CONDITIONS, THAT WE'RE REDUCING DISTURBANCES OR NOISE, UM, ODORS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
MAKING SURE THAT ANY, UM, VACANT PROPERTIES ARE MAINTAINED, UM, AND PRESERVED.
AND THEN OVERALL, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT ANY, UM, OBSTRUCTIONS OR DEBRIS AND HOW YOU'RE MAINTAINING, UM, YOUR PREMISES IS MAINTAINED.
SO THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS SECTION OF THE CODE IS.
UM, THE GOAL OF WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS SOME, UM, CLARIFICATIONS IN THE LANGUAGE.
SO AGAIN, AS THEY DO THEIR WORK, UM, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY'S EVOLVED OVER TIME.
UM, WE'VE NOT UPDATED THIS SECTION, UM, IN QUITE SOME TIME.
SO LOOKING AT WHAT ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES THAT WE CAN MAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO, TO DO THEIR JOB, UM, CONSISTENTLY ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO, UM, WE WORKED REALLY HEAVILY WITH THEIR, UM, WITH THAT TEAM, UM, OF FOUR, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INCORPORATES WHAT THEY SEE ON A DAILY BASIS TO HELP THEM SORT OF CLOSE THOSE GAPS.
UM, SO WHAT THE AMENDMENT INCLUDES, AND I'M HAPPY TO, UM, TALK THROUGH ANY DETAILS SPECIFICALLY, UM, IS REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, SO CURRENTLY THE CODE TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE INTENT OF THIS RELATED TO STRUCTURES.
WE HAVE, UM, BROADENED THAT APPLICATION TO BE THE PREMISES SO THAT ANYTHING INCLUDING YOUR STRUCTURE, BUT YOUR ENTIRE SITE NEEDS TO BE, UM, YOU NEED TO ADHERE TO THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THIS SECTION.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, A PORTION OF THE CODE THAT THEN WAS REALLY, UM, LOOKING AT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ON THE RESIDENTIAL PART, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT IN TO INCLUDE ALL, BASICALLY ALL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY HAVE TO MEET THIS, WHETHER IT'S, UM, RESIDENTIAL OR NOT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING SOME CLARIFICATIONS RELATED TO HOW YOU'RE, UM, MAINTAINING YOUR PREMISES.
SO ADDING SOME, UM, INFORMATION IN THERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN HAVE, UM, ON YOUR PROPERTY AND WHAT THE PURPOSES OF THAT ARE, UM, INCLUDING.
UM, WE'VE INCLUDED LIKE PORTABLE STORAGE.
UM, SO IF YOU HAVE A POD YOU CURRENTLY, THE CODE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ALLOWANCE FOR THAT.
SO IF YOU HAVE THAT THERE, I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE.
SO WE WANTED TO SET SOME PARAMETERS TO ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE THAT, BUT FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, AND THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE REMOVED.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED.
UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME CLARIFICATIONS RELATED TO, UM, GRASS AND WEEDS, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS ALLOWING FOR, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT TO GIVE SOME CONSISTENT GUIDANCE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE MAINTAINING YOUR GRASS.
UM, BUT PARTICULARLY WEEDS, NOT NECESSARILY ONES THAT ARE NOXIOUS, BUT ALL WEEDS.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S BEEN CLARIFIED WITH THE CODE, THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE HAD, UM, AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR HOW TO SCREEN YOUR TRASH CANS IN RECYCLING.
UM, SO CURRENTLY THE CODE ALLOWS YOU TO DO LANDSCAPING.
UM, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ADDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A FENCE, UM, OR A WALL TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
UM, SO THAT THAT, AND THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITHIN THAT AREA.
SO WE HAVE ADDED THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, WITHIN THE CODE AS WELL.
AND THAT'S TO BE MAINTAINED AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OPACITY.
SO IF IT'S A, IT CAN'T BE LATTICE, IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH, UM, THAT IT REALLY HAS TO BE OPAQUE AND THAT HAS TO BE LIKE FROM DAY ONE THAT THAT'S THERE.
AND IT HAS TO BE TO THE SIDE OR THE REAR OF YOUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND IF YOU'RE DOING A FENCE, IT HAS TO BE ENCLOSED BASICALLY ON ALL THREE SIDES AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GATE.
SO THERE'S NOT A, AN OPENING NECESSARILY WHERE THE LANDSCAPING RIGHT NOW YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPENING POTENTIALLY TO THE REAR.
UM, SO REALLY THE GOAL IS TO, TO PROVIDE THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS
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WHERE GARAGES ARE SMALLER AND YOU DON'T HAVE SPACE SOMETIMES IN YOUR GARAGE TO, TO PUT ALL, TO PUT ALL YOUR THINGS AND YOUR CARS.SO, UM, SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE.
AND THEN JUST SOME CLARIFICATIONS ABOUT VEHICLES, UM, AND WHERE THOSE CAN BE STORED AND HOW THOSE ARE SCREENED.
UM, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THEY'RE ON A HARD SURFACE AND OPERABLE VEHICLES, MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR, UM, ABOUT WHERE THOSE, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR THAT.
SO THAT IS GENERALLY WHAT, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UM, WE DO HAVE A RED LINE IN THE, IN YOUR ONBOARD, UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED THAT HAS THE DETAILED, UM, I GUESS PROPOSAL.
SO I'M, AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR PULL IT UP AND LOOK AT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THIS AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE WILL THEN PUT THIS AMENDMENT WITH THE OTHER THREE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN AND TAKE THAT FORWARD, UM, TO A UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING.
KATHY, LET'S START WITH YOU THIS TIME.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION 'CAUSE IT, IT GETS INTO TALKING ABOUT ODOR FUMES AND, UM, I WAS THINKING ABOUT INSIDE YOUR HOME, UM, BUT YOU MAY, IT, SOMETHING MAY BE SMELLING NEXT DOOR.
AND WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT SMELLS NOW.
UM, I'LL MENTION MARIJUANA IS ONE, IS HAS THAT BEEN PLACED AS A THOUGHT IN THAT AS, OR EVEN IF YOU'RE OUT ON YOUR PATIO OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT, DOES ODOR AND I GUESS NOT FUMES, BUT ODOR, DOES THAT FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY FOR CODE ENFORCEMENTS? IF, IF, IF YOU WOULD GET SOMEONE WHO'S, UH, A NEIGHBOR WHO'S HEARING THOSE, UH, COMPLAINT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? I MEAN, WITH ANY, UM, COMPLAINT THAT'S SHARED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY WOULD GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE THAT.
SO UNDER THIS AMEN, OR UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, I MEAN, IT DOES ACCOUNT FOR ODORS AND FUMES.
UM, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE, IDENTIFY IS THIS A PROBLEM? THAT'S, AND AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF OPEN-ENDED, BUT THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS OF THAT? UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE A DETERMINATION AND, AND, UM, TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION IF THEY JUST DETERMINE THAT'S NECESSARY.
I MEAN, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW IS TO NOT BE OFFENSIVE NOR TO CREATE A HAZARD.
SO THERE IS AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO USE THEIR DISCRETION FOR THAT.
SO, AND THEN ONCE THIS IS ALL SET, WILL YOU THEN MEET WITH THE HOAS AND HAVE A, UH, JUST TO UPDATE THEM ON WHAT THIS IS, IS THAT AT, AT YOUR QUARTERLY ME MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE, WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR HOW TO COMMUNICATE THAT.
I KNOW, UM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC INFORMATION TEAM SEND OUT A REGULAR, UM, NEWSLETTER OF INFORMATION.
WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS INCLUDED IN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENTS.
ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO COME OUT AND TALK TO HOAS ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN UPDATED.
AGAIN, I THINK THIS WILL HONESTLY HELP, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS AND, AND GIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT OTHER, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OOMPH IN SOME OF THESE INSTANCES WHERE THEY'VE NOT HAD CLARITY BEFORE.
SO I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE, HAD IT HERE, UM, THE FIREWOOD NOW WE'RE ADDING THERE, UH, WHAT SECTION IS IT IN? SHOOT, I JUST HAD IT.
YEAH, IT'S IN THE EXEMPTIONS PIECE ON, TRYING TO THINK WHAT NUMBER.
SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING FIREWOOD FOR PERSONAL USE TO BE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY MM-HMM
I, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT WHERE THERE HAS TO BE SOME MECHANISM BY WHICH IT'S STACKED OR MAINTAINED IN A, IN A FASHION THAT'S NOT JUST A PILE OF FIREWOOD.
DO WE, BECAUSE I'M READING THIS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS COULD BE INTERPRETED AS, I COULD HAVE A STACK IN MY SIDE YARD OF JUST A PILE OF FIREWOOD AND LEAVE IT THERE.
I'M GUESSING THIS IS GETTING AT, UM, MAYBE THERE WEREN'T REQUIREMENTS AT ALL, SO YOU COULD PRETTY MUCH HAVE IT ANYWHERE, RIGHT? WELL, NO, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD CALL OUT.
I LIKE THE, I LIKE THE REQUIREMENT AND I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT STILL MAINTAIN A, UH, YOU KNOW, WOODBURN FIREPLACE AND THEY HAVE IT NICELY STACKED THAT'S ON THEIR SIDE.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN TALK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST LANGUAGE IS FOR THAT BEFORE THAT GOES TO COUNSEL AND ADD YEAH.
AND THE OTHER THING ON THIS, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER AN OBLIGATION WHERE IT HAS
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TO BE COVERED IN SOME MANNER, WHETHER A COVERAGE HAVE TO BE A TARP OR LIKE A BUILT-IN LIKE WOOD SECTION.BECAUSE IN THEORY, IF YOU ARE BURNING, SOAKED AND DAMP WOOD, WHETHER IT'S OUTSIDE OR EVEN IN YOUR, IN YOUR FIREPLACE INSIDE, IT'S GONNA CREATE ADDITIONAL SMOKE WHEN IT'S DAMP AND WET COMPARATIVELY TO IF YOU'RE HAVING DRY FIRE WOOD FROM A, FOR A HEAT SOURCE.
I KNOW THAT MAY BE JUST UNDER CONSIDERATION JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE OTHER PIECE GOING TO THE TRASH CAN SCREENING OR THE, THE GARBAGE SCREENING, AND I KNOW THIS WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION BEFORE, IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WHERE THE SCREENING IS OF A LANDSCAPE BARRIER, KIND OF THAT SECOND COMPONENT, THE SIDE THAT'S OPEN IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO FACE IN THEORY IN THE BACKYARD.
I'M READING THAT CORRECTLY, CORRECT? MM-HMM
ARE, DO WE NEED SOMETHING TO INDICATE THAT THE, THE LANDSCAPE BARRIER MUST NOT BE, THERE CAN'T BE ANY GAPS IN IT.
BECAUSE I CAN FORESEE A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY PUTS IN SOME ARBORVITAE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF EVERGREEN TYPE PLANT AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, YOUR SLATS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABLE TO STILL SEE IT.
DO WE HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT IN A FORM OR FASHION? I WOULD THINK THAT THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT YEAR-ROUND OPACITY REQUIREMENT WOULD GET TO THAT BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PREVIOUSLY THE CODE LET YOU GET TO THAT WITH THE LANDSCAPING, GET TO THAT OPACITY WITHIN TWO YEARS.
AND AT THIS, THIS AMENDMENT IS BASICALLY SAYING AT DAY ONE, THIS HAS TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OPAQUE.
'CAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE OPTION FOR A FENCE THAT'S GONNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OPAQUE DAY ONE.
SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE CONDITION THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING WHERE THERE'D BE GAPS LIKE YOU WOULD BE PLANTING, I SEE IT.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT WAS THE OTHER PIECE OF IT, RIGHT? YOU COULD PLANT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GROW TO, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE FEET TALL TO SCREEN IT IN TWO YEARS, BUT FOR THE THOSE TWO YEARS YOU GOTTA STA AT, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT'S GROWING.
SO WE'VE MADE THAT ACCOMMODATION.
I SEE HOW, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S YEAH, NO, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND BECAUSE WE MENTIONED IT UP TOP DISCUSSING NATURAL LANDSCAPE AREA, A HUNDRED PERCENT YEAR ROUND OPACITY, AND THEN IT GETS ONTO THE NEW, THE NEWER SECTION, AND THEN WE WERE BRINGING UP THE LANDSCAPE BARRIER AGAIN.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NO, AND MAYBE WE COULD REORDER THAT I, YEAH.
LET ME LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO TIE THERE.
I THINK YOU HAVE IT THERE, THIS TOGETHER.
JUST AGAIN, WE, FROM A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET A NEIGHBOR COMPLAINING OR OBVIOUSLY THAT'S HOW IT'S GONNA ARISE.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, CODE ENFORCEMENT, I WOULD IMAGINE IS NOT DRIVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S GONNA BE FROM A COMPLAINT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A COMPLAINT, THERE'S CERTAINLY A SITUATION WHERE THE NEIGHBORS MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE GETTING ALONG, WHICH IS FINE, IT HAPPENS, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING STAND WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, LOOK, THERE IS NO RIGHT WAY AROUND THIS PIECE.
THERE YOU, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE FULLY SCREENED.
BUT BEYOND THAT, I'M, I'M, UH, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE AMENDMENT.
NO COMMENTS? SO I HAVE, I HAVE TWO.
UM, AND I, JASON KIND OF BROUGHT THE FIREWOOD THING UP BECAUSE I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT, UM, THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM HAVING A NICELY STACKED FIREWOOD, YOU KNOW, IN A, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
AND THEY LEAVE AND THEY LEAVE THE FIREWOOD, THE PEOPLE MOVE IN, THEY'RE NOT WOOD BURNING, AND THE WOOD JUST SITS THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
AND IS THERE ANY KIND OF WAY TO LIMIT THE LONGEVITY OF HOW LONG A STACK
AND SO THEN YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO SORT OF PEG A STARTING MOMENT IN TIME, BUT IF IT'S STARTING TO ROT, THEN YOU RUN INTO A CODE ISSUE.
ROTTING FIREWOOD IS VERY EASY TO DETERMINE
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THE SECOND THING I, AND MY FAVORITE SUBJECT, UH, THE TRASH ENCLOSURES.
UM, AND THAD, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP WITH THIS, THE DEFINITION OF A FENCE OR A WALL, DO WE HAVE MATERIALS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, OR COULD THEY BE OF ANY MATERIAL IN THE DEFINITIONS OF THE CITY OR JUST THE DEFINITION OF A, DOES IT, DOES THE CITY HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT A FENCE IS? IT HAS TO BE EITHER METAL
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OR IT HAS TO BE WOOD, OR CAN IT BE PLASTIC? CAN IT BE A, UH, IT, IT CANNOT BE, AS I RECALL, IT CANNOT BE VINYL.THERE ARE, UM, SPECIFIC MATERIALS THAT ARE PROHIBITED, PERMITTED IN THE FENCE CHAPTERS OF THE CODE.
SO THAT'S, SO, AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S COMPANIES THAT PRODUCE ENCLOSURES THAT ARE VINYL AND, AND THEY ARE BEING USED.
UM, AND SO I JUST, I, AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE'RE COVERED WITH THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I NOTICE IS THAT THOSE, UM, TYPES OF MATERIALS DON'T REALLY HAVE A, UM, A VERY PERMANENT KIND OF LIKE POSTS THAT HOLES IN.
THEY'RE USUALLY LIKE METAL RODS THAT GET PUSHED DOWN TO THE EARTH AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY MOVE AND THEY'RE NOT KIND OF SOLID.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT THE FENCE DEFINITION OR THE WALL HAS SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT SUPPORTS THAT ARE ANCHORED INTO THE GROUND OR SOMETHING.
WOULD THAT BE TRUE? THE FENCING DEFINITION DOES, AND I THINK THAT FOR THIS IN PARTICULAR, UM, LET'S SEE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT FOR THESE, AND REALLY IT'S, IT'S A LANDSCAPE BARRIER MORE SO THAN A TRUE FENCE.
BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT IN ADDITION TO SORT OF THE GENERALLY APPLICABLE MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS, IT HAS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE MATERIAL AND COLOR OF THE ADJACENT STRUCTURE.
SO YOU COULDN'T HAVE A BRICK STRUCTURE AND A VINYL FENCE NEXT TO IT.
BUT A, A LOT OF HOUSES HAVE VINYL SIDING AND THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS THAT'S THE MATERIAL THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT.
SO, BUT YOU CAN'T DO VINYL ON THE FENCE.
WE'RE THE LANGUAGE COVERS IS FROM ALL OF THOSE, THE, THOSE POTENTIAL THINGS HAPPENING.
SO BASED ON MY QUESTIONS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TIGHTENED UP IN THIS STATEMENT OR YOU THINK WE'VE PRETTY WELL COVERED YET? OPACITY, YOU'VE GOT SECURE TO THE GROUND, NOT PLASTIC OR NOT VINYL, LET PUT IT THAT WAY.
I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST WHERE YOU'RE THINKING LIKE, LIKE A PERMANENT, WELL, I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE, I KNOW THAT THE, THE BIG BOX STORE, I'M GONNA GO BUY AN ENCLOSURE FOR MY TRASH RECEPTACLE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE, WHAT I'M HEARING MM-HMM
THE GUIDELINES ARE RECOMMENDING OR ALLOWING, I MEAN, I CAN LET THAT WEIGH IN TOO.
I MEAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT, WE CAN, THAT'S WHAT TAMMY WAS WONDERING, IF THE BUILDING, LIKE IF YOU'RE GONNA INSTALL A FENCE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE BUILDING CODE THAT WOULD ACQUIRE THAT ANYWAY, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO AND SEE ON OUR END IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDED THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT, BUT YEAH, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE, I'M LOOKING AT THE FENCING, UM, PROVISIONS AND IT, IT REFERS TO THEM BEING STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND COMPLETELY FINISHED AT ALL TIMES, UNLESS THEY'RE UNDERGOING, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF REPAIR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT, UM, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES HOW THEY'RE ANCHORED IN THERE, BUT THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY TIGHTEN THAT UP BEFORE ITS COUNCIL.
BUT SECURELY WOULD MEAN JUST NOT JUST SOME THIN, YOU KNOW, METAL ROD OR SOMETHING THAT'S USED AS THE PIVOT POINT BETWEEN TWO PIECES OF SOMETHING.
UM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAD AND I THINK, I THINK WE ANSWERED THEM WELL.
ANOTHER ONE, JASON WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS.
JENNY, ARE YOU AWARE FROM A CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS ARE RECEIVED RELATIVE TO THE RECYCLING AND TRASH SCREENING ON A YEARLY AVERAGE? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I KNOW THEY KEEP TRACK OF THAT.
UM, I, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE FAIRLY COMPLIANT AND PEOPLE HONESTLY ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT IF IT'S OUT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A DOOR HANGER PROGRAM, SO YOU'RE NOT GETTING WRITTEN UP, RIGHT? YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE HANGER LIKE, HEY, YOUR TRASH CANS ARE OUT PLEASE OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A HANDFUL OF SORT OF REPEAT THINGS THAT THEY SEE.
SO THEY TRY TO USE THAT USER FRIENDLY APPROACH, UM, AND, AND TALK THROUGH SOLUTIONS.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THIS AMENDMENT HELPS TO TRY TO GET AT.
NO, I THINK, THINK THAT SOLUTION, BUT YEAH.
I MEAN IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THEY DEAL WITH, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, AND THE REASON I ASK, AND I WOULD IMAGINE, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ON THIS, THIS, THESE AMENDMENTS WERE ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT SAW AS A REOCCURRING OR CONTINUAL TYPE COMPLAINT THAT, UM, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ST STOOD OUT.
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I WOULD IMAGINE.I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR IS ATTEMPTING TO FIX THAT, THAT ISSUE.
AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SMALL NUMBER TOO, BUT I THINK THAT ISSUE, RIGHT, IT CAN'T BE RESOLVED WITH THE LANDSCAPING PART OR IN THE GARAGE.
SO PROVIDING THIS OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
SO THE, THE ONE OTHER THING IS THE LAST SENTENCE IN THAT, NOW I'M REREAD IT, THE SUBJECT, THE RESIDENTIAL WASTE AND RECYCLING CONTAINER SCREENING.
IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL THROUGH THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.
IS THAT MEANING THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS TO APPLY FOR, RIGHT.
SO OUR OFFICE WOULD REVIEW THAT PERFECT.
ENGINEERING ON THE BUILDING STANDARD SIDE WOULD LOOK AT IT AS WELL.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE RIGHT, THAT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING YES.
THEY'RE DOING IN YOUR REQUIRED SIDE YARD.
I MEAN THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER IMPLICATIONS, RIGHT.
WHERE DOES IT FIT IN SNOW REMOVAL FOR SIDEWALKS? UM, WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS GOING TO WALKING ON TO SCHOOL, THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME? UM, I KNOW THERE'S AN ORDINANCE FOR THEM, BUT YEAH, I, I I DON'T THINK YOU ARE, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN OBLIGATION TO, TO ADDRESS THE SIDEWALKS THAT THIS IS PROBABLY LEGALLY YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, UM, BECAUSE HE COULD SET YOU UP.
UM, I, I DON'T, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES RESIDENTS TO REMOVE SNOW FROM THE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES GENERALLY.
UM, I, I CAN SAY THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE I HAVE LOOKED INTO PERIODICALLY OVER THE COURSE OF MY CAREER AND IT BECOMES MORE COMPLICATED FROM A LIABILITY SHIFTING PERSPECTIVE THAN THAN ONE MIGHT THINK AT FIRST BLUSH.
MAYBE IF WE LOOK INTO IT, SEE WHERE WE ARE.
UM, I RECENTLY, I THINK IN THE DISPATCH THEY HAD A WHOLE ARTICLE ABOUT IT AND, UM, WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY IN SUPPORT OF MARY'S COMMENT IS THAT THERE IS ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY WHO PUBLICLY STATES EXACTLY WHAT MARY SAID, THAT HOMEOWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEARING SIDEWALKS, PUBLIC SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT WE SHOULD PUT IT IN THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, THAT'S I THINK OTHERS, FOR OTHERS TO JUDGE, BUT I THINK SHE, IT'S GROUND WHAT WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS GROUNDED IN IS VERY ACCURATE.
AND, AND DOESN'T IT TIE BACK TO JUST SIDEWALKS IN GENERAL AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE, ISN'T IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND GOOD CARE OF THE SIDEWALKS OF THEY, THEY'RE T THEY'RE TRESPASS THAT, UM, MAINTENANCE OF THE, THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF A RESIDENCE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER AND THE HOMEOWNER IS, UH, JUST AS ANYONE IS PROHIBITED FROM, UH, PLACING OBJECTS OR PLACING OBJECTS ON THE SIDEWALK THAT WOULD MAKE THEM IMPASSABLE.
THE SNOW REMOVAL, UH, BECOMES COMPLICATED BECAUSE AT, AT LEAST AS I RECALL THE, THE LIABILITY ISSUES THERE IS NOT LIABILITY FOR NATURAL ACCUMULATION OF SNOW.
THERE IS POTENTIALLY LIABILITY FOR, UH, NEGLIGENT REMOVAL OF SNOW OR NEGLIGENT CARE THAT CAUSES THE SIDEWALK TO BE IMPASSABLE, FOR EXAMPLE, BY ICE OR AN UNNATURAL ACCUMULATION OF SNOW, SUCH AS SOME KIND OF PILE OR SLIPPERY SPOT.
SO, UM, I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO TAKE, UH, A FRESH LOOK AT IT.
BUT, UH, IT HAS RAISED SOME ISSUES THAT HAVE PREVENTED ME.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I'VE LOOKED AT IT FOR DUBLIN SPECIFICALLY, BUT IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES I'VE WORKED WITH THAT HAVE PREVENTED ME FROM RECOMMENDING THAT THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH SUCH AN ORDINANCE.
IS THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS EVERYBODY HAS ANY FURTHER DELIBERATION? DO WE JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION? OH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING ME OUT HERE.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE? OKAY, JENNY, NO PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE.
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OKAY.SO SHALL WE, UH, MAKE A MOTION, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING CODE? SO I HAVE A QUESTION IF WE WANT SOME CHANGES THOUGH.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK YOU COULD JUST INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION THEN.
WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S A LOT THOUGH.
DAN, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND THEN TAKE CARE OF THAT
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CODE ADJUSTMENTS TO SECTION 1 5 3 0.076 REGARDING PROPERTY NUISANCE REGULATIONS WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS PUT FORTH THROUGH DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
IS THAT CLEAR? THAT'S KRISTEN.
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LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE NUMBER 24 DASH ZERO EIGHT Z.UH, A REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR REZONING OF NINE PARCELS FROM R RURAL DISTRICT TO ID TWO RESEARCH FLEX DISTRICT AND ID THREE.
RESEARCH AND ASSEMBLY DISTRICT.
THE PARCELS ARE LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SHIRE RINGS ROAD AND COS GRAY ROAD AND NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF RINGS ROAD AND HUARD ROAD.
UM, SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REZONING.
UM, IN THIS INSTANCE THIS WILL BE GOING FROM ONE STANDARD DISTRICT TO ANOTHER, UM, WITHIN OUR WEST INNOVATION.
SO WITH THIS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, AND ASKING THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
UM, AND YOU'RE CONSIDERING FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS, ANY THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS ANY AREA PLAN, UM, IN SURROUNDING LAND USE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONSIDERATIONS.
SO THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS, UM, INCLUDED WITH THIS.
NOTHING'S BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THESE PARCELS.
SO I'LL TALK THROUGH, UM, WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD IN THE BACKGROUND TO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, THE COMMISSION TO MAKE, UM, A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS REQUEST.
UM, SO AS MR. W INDICATED, UM, THERE ARE NINE PARCELS THAT ARE PART OF THIS REZONING REQUEST.
UM, THE CITY ACQUIRED, UM, THE NORTHERN TWO PARCELS LOCATED AT THAT INTERSECTION OF SHIRE RINGS AND COS GRAY, UM, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
AND THOSE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY, VERY RECENTLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
UM, SO AS PART OF THAT, UM, WE WERE BRINGING FORWARD, UM, THE CITY OWNED PARCELS, BUT THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, WITHIN THAT AREA, UM, THAT ALSO WANTED TO BE A PART OF THIS APPLICATION THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.
UM, AGAIN, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED.
UM, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES HAVE COME IN, UM, AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
UM, SO AS YOU RECALL, UM, WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN ENVISION DUBLIN, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO THIS WEST INNOVATION AREA.
SO, UM, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE CODE.
UM, THE AREAS NORTH OF SHIRE RINGS, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE ZONING MAP, UM, HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ALREADY HAVE THAT WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
SO THAT CODE EXISTS, UM, AND THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
SO THE FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH ENVISION, DUBLIN WAS LOOKING AT SHOULD THE THERE BE ADDITIONAL AREA, UM, INCORPORATED WITHIN THAT WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
UM, AND THAT WAS A DETERMINATION AS PART OF THAT PLAN UPDATE AGAIN, TO PROVIDE THAT, UM, OTHER ALTERNATIVE TO CREATING SORT OF THE ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE CITY, RIGHT? IT'S NOT ONLY OFFICE BASED, BUT THERE ARE OTHER RESEARCH, UM, INNOVATION USES THAT WOULD BE, UM, HELPFUL TO THE CITY FROM A FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY, UM, STANDPOINT.
UM, AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE, WHAT'S THE BOUNDARIES, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE MAP HERE, UM, WEST OF COS GRAY ROAD IS THAT LIGHTER PURPLE COLOR WITH THE, UM, FXI, WHICH IS THE FLEX INNOVATION, UM, DISTRICT.
SO THAT IS REALLY LOOKING AT, AGAIN, THOSE OFFICE USES INNOVATION, RESEARCH, UM, FOCUS, AND THEN AS YOU GO ONTO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, UM, WANTING TO LOOK AT MORE INDUSTRIAL USES SO THAT IT'S LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION, THOSE TYPES OF USES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE.
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CREATE THAT BALANCE, UM, AND TRANSITION AS YOU MOVE, UM, FURTHER OUT OF THE CITY.UM, SO AGAIN, THERE'S THE COMMUNITY PLAN, RIGHT? HAS THE LAYERING, IT HAS THE FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THEN IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY IN SOME AREAS SUCH AS THE WEST INNOVATION AREA TO HAVE A SPECIAL AREA PLAN.
SO THERE ARE MORE SITE SPECIFIC AND AREA SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WHICH WILL BE APPLICABLE WHEN DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS COME FORWARD, UM, FOR THIS, UH, FOR THESE PARCELS, SHOULD THAT, SHOULD THAT EVER COME.
SO, UM, SOME KEY PIECES TO THAT ARE, UM, ALONG THE COSWAY ROAD FRONTAGE, THE COMMUNITY PLAN RECOMMENDS A 200 FOOT BUFFER, UM, THAT IT WOULD, IS SHOULD HAVE MOUNTING AND LANDSCAPING AGAIN TO CREATE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SIGNIFICANT SETBACK FROM COSWAY ROAD AND THE RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BALL TRAY, OR EXCUSE ME, ON COSWAY INVAL TRAY.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT, PARTICULARLY FOR, UM, THE TWO CITY OWNED PARCELS IS, UM, THERE'S AN EXISTING FARMSTEAD THAT'S THERE.
UM, AND THE PLAN RECOMMENDS THAT THAT BE PRESERVED, UM, AS PART OF ANY DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT WOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT BUFFER.
SO IF YOU'RE ON THAT STREET AND YOU SEE THAT FARMSTEAD THAT IS INTEGRATED INTO THIS RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR THAT TO BE PRESERVED AND PART OF THAT BUFFER, UM, YOU'LL ALSO SEE WHERE, UM, TUTTLE CROSSING BOULEVARD, THERE'LL BE A POTENTIAL FUTURE, UM, EXTENSION OF THAT FROM ITS CURRENT STUB FURTHER, UM, EAST IN THE CITY.
BUT THAT KIND OF HUGS THE OTHER END OF, UM, THIS WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
AND GUESS, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT IS REALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
AND THIS REZONING, UM, APPLICATION REALLY HELPS TO SET THAT, SET THAT UP.
UM, SO AGAIN, THESE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED, UM, R IN THE RURAL DISTRICT, UM, INCLUDING THEN THE TWO CITY PARCELS THAT HAVE COME IN WHEN YOU'RE, UM, ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
IF YOU'RE, UM, ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THOSE BECOME A RURAL DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS, AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN RECOMMENDED.
UM, SO THAT AREA THAT IS SOUTH OF SHIRE RINGS AND EAST OF THE RAILROAD, ALSO BOUND BY COS GRADE.
THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD BE THAT ID TWO DISTRICT, UM, THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT PROPERTY ON RINGS ROAD WOULD BE ID THREE.
UM, SO THEN THIS SHOWS THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS.
UM, AGAIN, ID TWO IS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT FLEX, UM, AND INNOVATION.
SO YOU CAN HAVE, UM, OFFICE OF EV LIKE MANY, MANY KINDS OF OFFICE.
UM, WE, I DATA CENTERS AND, UH, MANUFACTURING ASSEMBLY ARE ITALICIZE AN ASTERISK ON HERE BECAUSE THAT CODE AMENDMENT THAT'S GOING FORWARD TO COUNCIL, THOSE ARE CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, AND THAT ALIGNS WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN AS WELL, WHICH MEANS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE.
UM, WHEREAS THEN THE ID THREE IS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT, UM, MORE DATA CENTER, WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UM, AS A PERMITTED USE.
SO YOU'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING THAT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INDUSTRIAL, UM, USE ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT HAS ADDITIONAL STANDARDS RELATED TO SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHT, ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, LANDSCAPING, PARKING.
SO I MEAN, THAT CODE, UM, EXISTS AND HAS A NUMBER OF STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE MET, UM, IN ANY APPLICATION THAT'S SUBMITTED, UM, WITHIN THIS DISTRICT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM.
SO THEY'RE SUBMITTING A FORMAL APPLICATION TO STAFF, SIMILAR TO EVERY OTHER APPLICATION, UM, THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD SEE THAT'S REVIEWED BY OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM, AND THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
AND IF, AND IF REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE ARE NOT MET, THEN THE, THAT'S WHAT GETS FORWARDED TO THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO, UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE LAND USE.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UM, OR ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THIS.
UH, TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS, DAN.
UM, SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, AND I DON'T WANNA JUMP THE GUN ON PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I JUST WANNA CLARIFY.
UH, THERE WAS A HISTORIC HOME ON COS GRAY 59 87.
ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT CONCERNING? IS THAT THE, THE THAT IS THE SAME.
THAT IS THE SAME ONE, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
'CAUSE AGAIN, WHEN, AND THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY, SO AGAIN, THAT WE HAVE DEFINITELY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THAT BEING, UM, PRESERVED WHEN, WHEN, AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THAT PARCEL.
BUT YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS GETTING AT.
UH, AND THEN JUST A POINT OF CLARITY.
SO, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE LAND USE KIND OF HAD MORE FLUID BOUNDARIES, RIGHT? FOR SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS.
YOU'RE, UH, YOU SHOWED THE, THERE YOU GO, THE FXI, WHICH IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT LIGHTER THAN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING
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KIND OF FLOWS THROUGH THAT PROPERTY.SO ACTUALLY I THINK I MISSED, SAW IT BEFORE.
THIS MAKES MORE SENSE THAT I'LL RETRACT THAT QUESTION.
I THINK YOU SAID IT EARLIER, A LOT OF THE LAND HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE CITY OWNS A LITTLE BIT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT, THAT, THAT CURRENTLY OWN THE LAND AND WANT TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
SO CAN YOU HELP ME CLARIFY SOMETHING? CAN YOU GO TO WHERE THE, THE NEXT SLIDE? I THINK, UH, MAYBE NOT ONE MORE HAD LIKE WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE WITH THE IDS AND YES.
SO IS IT, IS IT FAIR TO ASSUME THAT THE BULLET POINT RELATIVE AND, AND THIS IS IN BOTH THE CIVIC, PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USES, THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, AND I KNOW THAT WE, GETTING AHEAD HERE, BUT I'M THINKING FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL WITH AROUND, THERE'S SOME RELATION HERE FROM A DISTANCE PERSPECTIVE TO SPORTS OHIO AND DARI.
WOULD, WOULD THOSE USES ALLOW FOR A WORLD CLASS ATHLETIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY? OUTDOOR, LET ME ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION FIRST ABOUT ANNEXATION OR, AND THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE INCLUDED.
SO ALL THESE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY, SO NOBODY HAS TO ANNEX, THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE CITY.
SO THIS IS ESTABLISHING ZONING ONLY, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND THEN, SO SPORTS OHIO AND DARI FIELDS ARE KIND OF ON THE, THEY'RE ABOVE THIS, RIGHT? SO DARI'S OVER HERE THAT'S ZONED ID THREE MM-HMM
UM, AND THE CITY ALSO ACTUALLY OWNS THIS OTHER PARCEL, UM, THAT ALSO HAS BEEN RECENTLY ANNEXED, UM, WHICH IS PART OF THAT SAME DUET, UM, FAMILY PROPERTY AND THEN SPORTS OHIO IS THIS ID FIVE.
SO THAT ALREADY HAS STANDARDS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT THAT ALLOW THAT SPORTS COMPLEX.
AND THEN ID THREE, WHICH IS WHERE THIS, TO YOUR POINT, THIS CIVIC PUBLIC PIECE OF THAT WOULD FALL INTO, UM, SO AGAIN, AS A DECISION'S MADE ABOUT HOW SPORTS OHIO'S GONNA BE OPERATED AND WHAT THE FUTURE PLANS ARE FOR THAT LARGER SPORTS PIECE OF IT, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT.
I MEAN, THE GOAL OF THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES, AND WE'VE KIND OF DRAWN THAT AT LEAST INITIAL LINE IN THE SAND OF THINGS SOUTH OF SHIRE RINGS.
WE REALLY WANT THAT TO BE, AND THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE PURCHASE THESE PROPERTIES, REALLY FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO AGAIN, AS THAT MASTER PLANNING FOR, FOR THE SPORTS PIECE OF THAT COMES INTO PLAY, WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RIGHT COMBINATION OF PARCELS ARE.
BUT, UM, THOSE USES COULD BE CONSIDERED THERE DOES.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, DOES THE ID THREE ALLOW FOR THAT USE? AND I WOULD ASSUME IT DOES BECAUSE OF HOW DARI IS CURRENTLY SITUATED.
YEAH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I, I GUESS THAT'S IN THE END.
DARI CAN BE THERE AND CAN EXPAND AND I WOULD CONSIDER THAT TO BE PART OF THAT CIVIC, UM, PUBLIC USE OF THAT PROPERTY.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE DEFINITION OF, OR THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE ID TWO RESEARCH FLEX, DID THAT DEFINITION COME FROM INTERNALLY COME FROM THE CITY OF DUBLIN, DETERMINING WHAT SHOULD BE THERE? OR IS THAT A, A PLANNING, UM, STANDARD FOR THIS TYPE? AND THE REASON I, THE REASON I ASK THAT IS IT IT PROMOTES FOR GOOD OR FOR BAD A VARIETY OF BUILDING TYPES THAT MAY NOT BE INCOMPATIBLE.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS, UM, FLAT, LONG BUILDINGS, BUT THEN YOU SEE SOME OF THE OTHERS, LIKE INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, YOU KNOW, INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT COULD BE PRETTY SMALL.
NOW YOU COULD HAVE A BIG GYM OR AN INDOOR TENNIS FACILITY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, THAT CAN ALSO BE, WE SEE A LOT OF STOREFRONTS THAT ARE, SO, I, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AND I, I REALIZE THIS SAYS FLEX
BUT I'M WONDERING WHERE IS THIS, IS THIS A UNIVERSAL STANDARD? 'CAUSE I CAN SEE PLACES WHERE THE ADJACENCIES AREN'T COMPATIBLE IN HERE.
SO WHAT'S ON HERE IS WHAT IS THAT LARGER DISTRICT INTENT THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
SO IT HAS SORT, HERE'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT IS, AND THEN IF YOU'LL RECALL, THERE'S A SHEET FOR EACH, OR SORT OF A CATEGORY FOR EACH LAND USE AND WHAT THOSE SORT OF PRINCIPLE USES AND SUPPORTING USES WOULD, UM, SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND THEN AGAIN, IT ALSO INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
DENSITY, THOSE AND BUILDING FORMS AND ORIENTATION, UM, OPEN SPACE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IS FOR EACH
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OF THEM.SO THAT'S WHERE THIS PARTICULAR DESCRIPTION CAME IN WAS FROM THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF LIKE USES UNDER FLEX INNOVATION, OFFICE, RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT, FLEX OFFICE, CLEAN MANUFACTURING, AND THEN IT DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMERCIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE WHAT THE SPECIFIC USES ARE.
SO LIKE INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, FITNESS AND EXERCISE HAVE A SIZE LIMITATION, UM, OF LIKE 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER LOT.
SO YOU, THAT'S REALLY MINIMAL WHERE YOU WOULD EVEN PROBABLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO THAT WOULD MAYBE BE LIKE IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, FOR THESE PROPERTIES, I MEAN, IF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO ABOUT HOW THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE INTEREST IN THIS, AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ARE LARGELY LOOKING AT, UM, BUILDINGS THAT'D BE SIMILAR TO, UM, LIKE THAT COMMAND ALCON BUILDING ON 1 61 OR THE BUILDING THE VAN TRUST BUILT, UM, AGAIN, ADJACENT TO AMAZON, UH, VA DATA, LIKE THOSE KINDS OF INDU, MORE INDUSTRIAL FLEX BUILDING, SO YOU CAN DIVIDE THEM UP INTO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT SIZE AND CONFIGURATION DEPENDING ON THE USE.
SO, BUT, SO YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
THIS IS KIND OF AN INTERNAL YEAH.
DECISION OF WHAT YOU THOUGHT YEAH.
WOULD WORK, HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHOSE, UH, PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE REZONED, ARE THEY AWARE OF IT? YES.
THEY'VE BEEN, I MEAN, E ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PROVIDED THEIR LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND THE AUTHORIZATION TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH, LIKE I MENTIONED WITH EACH OF THEM ABOUT WHAT PROPERTY OR WHAT PROJECTS THEY MIGHT WANT TO PUT THERE AND SORT OF UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UTILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO COME AS WELL, UM, BEFORE ANYTHING COULD EVEN HAPPEN HERE.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING AS PART OF THIS, WE'RE ALSO DOING SORT OF A LARGER WEST INNOVATION, UM, INTEGRATED PLAN WITH PLANNING NEXT.
SO THAT'S HELPING TO TIE, THAT'S KIND OF HAPPENING AS A SEPARATE PROJECT, BUT HELPS TO TIE ALL THOSE PIECES TOGETHER AND HAVE FINALLY FOR ME, HAVE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BEEN NOTIFIED SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
UM, WE SENT OUR TYPICAL NOTICES, BUT WE ALSO EMAILED PARTICULARLY BALANCE TRAY SINCE, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTION WITH THEM.
ZACH REACHED OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY AND SHARED THIS INFORMATION AND OFFERED, YOU KNOW, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO.
KATHY, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, GREAT REPORT.
UH, JUST SOME CLARIFICATION FOR ME.
UM, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT, UH, ID TWO THAT WOULD DIRECTLY COME TO P AND Z COMMISSION, WHEN I LOOK AT ID THREE THAT WOULD GO TO, UM, A RT AND SAY THEY HAVE, THEY, THEY PASS IT FINE, DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND SAY, I DISAGREE WITH THAT AND PULL IT? OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? OR DOES IT HAVE THE FINAL SAY? SO WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, UNLESS THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE, OR YOU ARE NOT MEETING ONE OF THE, THE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE CODE, ALL DISTRICTS, ANY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION GOES THROUGH A RT.
SO NOTHING, IT DOESN'T, IT DIFFERENT DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS.
IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE USES AND THOSE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.
AND AGAIN, THE INTENT OF THIS IS SORT OF THAT SPEED TO BUILD, RIGHT? IF THE CODE IS SET UP AND YOU CAN MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
SO THAT INCLUDES, UM, SO PLANNING, I'M THE CHAIR PERSON, OR MY DESIGNEE IS THE CHAIR OF A RT, AND THEN ENGINEERING FROM A TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITY STANDPOINT, POLICE, FIRE BUILDING STANDARDS, PARKS AND RECREATION.
SO ALL THOSE ENTITIES HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND REVIEW APPLICATIONS.
UM, AS PART OF THAT, UM, AS PART OF ANY APPLICATION.
I MEAN, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOTIFIED WHEN AN APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A STANDARD DISTRICT, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER STANDARD DISTRICTS WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ROBUST REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THIS.
SO UNLESS THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, CITY COUNCIL WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED, UM, WITH THAT EITHER.
SO, UM, AND JUST COULD YOU SHARE WITH US IF YOU, UM, WITH HAVING THE RAILROAD, UM, TRACKS THERE MM-HMM
AND, UM, ALSO THERE TALK ABOUT, UM, A STATION, AND I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION FOR IT, BUT IF THINGS KIND OF MOVED, IS THAT A LOCATION THAT COULD BE A CONSIDERATION JUST OR SURE.
I MEAN, I, AGAIN, I WE'RE TARGETING, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR SOME OF THAT PURCHASING OF THE CARTER FARMS PROPERTY AND THAT OTHER A HUNDRED ACRES THAT THE CITY OWNS ON 1 61, REALLY TRYING TO TARGET THAT LOCATION FOR A FUTURE RAIL STATION.
UM, BUT THAT AGAIN, HAS SIMILAR RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF LAND USE, WHICH WOULD BE THAT ID TWO OR THREE, DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE,
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UM, OF THE, UH, OF THE ROAD YOU'RE ON FOR THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.THAT'S ABSOLUTELY, AND, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISTRICT, RIGHT? TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW IT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
SO I, I JUST HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION.
UM, AGAIN, THE 200 FOOT BUFFER IS, IS QUITE A AMENITY AND A GOOD TRANSITION BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND, AND ANOTHER USE, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT 200 FEET IN ITSELF.
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OTHER PLACES, UH, IN THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE A 200 FOOT BUFFER, AND I'M THINKING OF, UM, HIGHLAND, CROY ROAD HAS, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIMENSION IS, BUT IT'S A VERY, VERY, IT VARIES BUFFER.
HAS A DECENT BUFFER AND, AND THAT'S A PARK MM-HMM
AND THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING THIS BUFFER FROM ALSO BEING SOMEWHAT OF A REC A RESOURCE.
AND I ASSUMED WITH ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO CAUSE GRAY ROAD, I THINK IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THEY HAVE PROBABLY YEAH.
UM, SIDEWALKS OR PATHWAYS ALONG IT SO THAT THAT 200 FOOT BUFFER IS A, BECOMES AN AMENITY MM-HMM
UM, THAT PROVIDES A BUFFER, RIGHT.
WHICH IS PROVIDING A GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN USES, BUT IT'S ALSO PROVIDING AN AMENITY FOR THAT AREA.
WHICH I THINK IS REALLY POSITIVE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
UH, PLEASE, UH, MOVE TO THE PODIUM AND THE MICROPHONE IS NOT ON RIGHT NOW, SO YOU NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON.
UM, LYNN RUS, UM, 58 30 HUARD ROAD, UH, DUBLIN OH ONE SIX.
WE ARE NOT IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN, BUT WE ARE AN ADJACENT PROPERTY TO WHAT IS SHOWN UP THERE.
COULD YOU P BRING THE SLIDES UP AGAIN? MM-HMM
UM, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 34 YEARS, AND, UM, I REMEMBER WHEN THE CORNER OF 1 61 AND HUARD WAS CONSIDERED FOR, I THINK MAYBE A SOCCER STADIUM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THERE'S AN AMAZON DATA CENTER NOW, UM, ABOUT A MILE, UH, NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY.
OUR PROPERTY IS THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE.
THAT'S THE BACKSIDE AS YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE.
YEAH, A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF THERE.
OUR PROPERTY DOES INCLUDE PART OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON OUR EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
UM, SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED, I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR SURE, BUT AMAZON IS NOT FULLY ONLINE YET, BUT THERE IS A NOISE THAT IT PRODUCES, UM, WATCHING SOME DOCUMENTARIES.
I'M NO EXPERT WHATSOEVER, BUT IT'S CALLED, UH, ULF AND VLF ULTRA LOW FREQUENCY AND, UH, VERY LOW FREQUENCY NOISE.
IT'S SOUND, IT'S WHAT WHALES USED TO TALK ACROSS THE ATLANTIC, AND I THINK NUCLEAR SUBS USED TO COMMUNICATE.
UM, IT GOES THROUGH WALLS, IT GOES VERY LONG DISTANCES, IT GOES THROUGH MASONRY, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS HEAR THIS NOISE.
AND ABOUT A YEAR AGO, OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, AND, AND SOME DO HEAR IT AND SOME DON'T.
MY WIFE AND I STARTED HEARING THIS WHENEVER THAT AMAZON WAS RUNNING.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GOODYEAR BLIMP FROM A DISTANCE, LIKE YOU'RE AT MUIRFIELD WHEN THE BLIMPS OVER AND YOU'RE WAYS AWAY.
THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, BIG FANS.
UM, AND I WONDER WHEN AMAZON DOES COME FULLY ONLINE, UM, HOW MUCH FARTHER THAT WILL CARRY INTO BALL TRAY IN ALL OF THE AREAS, NOT JUST OUR PROPERTY.
OUR, UM, WE, WE ARE THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WOODS, WHICH WAS KNOWN AS ADRIAN WOODS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OFFICIAL NAME OR NOT, BUT IT'S STILL, UM, ORIGINAL WOODS, OLD GROWTH, PRISTINE WOODS BACK HERE THAT ABUTS THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS.
UM, AND OVER TO THE GEESE FARM.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE HOMESTEAD FARM ON THE, UH, UH, WEST OF COSGRAVE, BUT EAST OF THE TRACKS.
UM, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST 35 YEARS IS LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WAS EVER ADDRESSED OR TALKED ABOUT WHEN THESE OTHER PROPERTIES NORTH OF US WERE APPROVED.
UM, AND PERHAPS, UM, UM, SOMEONE COULD SHARE, IF THERE IS A RECOLLECTION OF THAT.
I MEAN, I, I'M ASKING AND OPEN TO THAT.
SO, UM, WHEN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WENT THROUGH, THEY WOULD BE REVIEWED AGAINST THE ZONING CODE, WHICH HAVE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT HAVE TO BE MET FOR THAT.
SO I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF SO ANY ISSUES.
SO I, I'M ACTUALLY, THANK YOU.
UM, UM, I'M TALKING ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION, NOT ENOUGH LIGHT TO, UH, BE SAFE AND FEEL SECURE, BUT, UM, REGARDING WILDLIFE AND HABITAT DESTRUCTION AND THE INTERRUPTION OF MIGRATORY, UM, SPECIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS AREA IS WET, IT RUNS ALONG THE TRACKS, WHICH MIGHT SOUND LIKE
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A BAD THING.WE'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, BUT, UM, WE'RE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE TRACKS, BUT RAILROAD TRACKS ACTUALLY PROVIDE A, A, A RUNWAY FOR WILDLIFE TO GET FROM ONE AREA TO THE NEXT WITHOUT BEING DISRUPTED BY TRAFFIC.
AND I THINK I HAVE THREE MINUTES, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S LIGHT IS TELLING YOU.
WELL, ANYWAY, UM, FROM WHAT, UM, UH, TAMMY NOBLE DESCRIBED ALL THOSE CRAZY USES AND MANY USES THAT AREN'T DEFINED OR PLANNED REALLY.
SO WE'RE OPEN TO ALMOST ANYTHING, UM, DOES LEAVE US OPEN TO SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT MANY OF US DON'T EVEN REALIZE HOW, HOW DISRUPTIVE THIS WILL BE ONGOING WHEN AMAZON FULLY COMES ONLINE, ESPECIALLY BALANCE, ANDRE AND THIS AREA HERE IS MUCH CLOSER IN PROXIMITY TO US.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT IN DUBLIN, BUT WE'RE PART OF THIS, UH, WE SHARE A PROPERTY LINE WITH THE WHAT'S UP HERE.
UM, AND, UH, I GUESS THAT'S IF I'M OUT OF TIME.
AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE SOME MORE CONSIDERATION AS TO HOW THIS GOES FORWARD, UM, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN A LONG-TERM PLAN.
AND I JUST, I, I WOULD JUST REMIND THE AUDIENCE THAT THE CITY JUST WENT THROUGH A COMMUNITY PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH THIS, THIS AREA WAS, WAS, UH, INCLUDED IN THAT COMMUNITY PLAN WAS APPROVED.
AND NOW THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW IS REZONING TO MATCH THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
SO THERE'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS TO GET TO THIS POINT.
SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT.
UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS WENT ON FOR A YEAR, HAD MULTIPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND SO THIS IS NOT JUST A PLAN BEING DEVELOPED, BUT IT'S A PLAN BASED ON A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND, AND OTHERS OVER A VERY LONG TIME.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS JUST TRYING TO ALIGN THE COMMUNITY PLAN WITH OTHER PLANS THAT THE CITY IS PUTTING TOGETHER.
UM, WERE THERE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS CITIES OF THE WEB SERVICES BUILDING MS. ROUSH? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
SO I, AND AGAIN, FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE WOOD, BUT THEN ELSEWHERE IN, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF TREE REMOVAL, TREE PRESERVATION, RIGHT? ALL THOSE STANDARDS STILL HAVE TO BE MET.
UM, WE DO, THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT JUST TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE LIGHTING, BUT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE LIGHTING IMPACT.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A CONSIDERATION.
UM, BUT THAT'S GOOD FEEDBACK FOR US AS WELL TO TAKE FORWARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS THESE PROPERTIES COME IN AND BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS, UM, THE CODE ALSO HAS BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN USES, UM, THAT ARE, ARE DIFFERENT USES, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL OR AN, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH FLEX USE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE ARE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MET.
SO THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S GOOD FOR US AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE AMENDMENTS OR THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AS PROJECTS COME FORWARD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
THE MIC IS ON NOW, SO YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, MY NAME IS RICHARD WEEKS 5 8 2 6 CHAR ROAD, NEXT DOOR TO MY NEIGHBOR.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES WHEN WE FIRST MOVED INTO THIS AREA ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE YEARS AGO, UH, THE AREA SOUTH OF US WAS A RURAL TRANSITION AREA.
AND THEN I'VE NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING LIKE WE DID FOR THIS MEETING THAT SAID, OH, WE'RE CHANGING ALL THAT STUFF.
SO I'M PRETTY CONCERNED 'CAUSE MY PROPERTY IS LIKE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT, UH, SITE ON THE LEFT.
AND SO I'M SEEING THE AMAZON BUILDING THE, UH, STORAGE BUILDING OR WHATEVER THAT THING IS ON THE CORNER OF, UH, 1 61 AND COS GRAY, UM, LIKE HE MENTIONED BEING, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT, UH, STRESSING.
AND THEN NOW WE'RE LOOKING AND SAYING WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE AN INDUSTRIAL USE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS OR IF THERE'S LIMITATIONS.
YOU MENTIONED, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME, SORRY.
BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THESE THINGS.
UH, HOW BIG WOULD THAT BUFFER ZONE BE? IS IT COULD BE 200 FEET
UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A VERY DESIRABLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, UH, ONCE YOU PUT UP ALL OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE LIGHT POLLUTION WAS ANOTHER ONE.
WE GET ENOUGH LIGHT POLLUTION FROM ENTRE NOW, AND OF COURSE THAT'S JUST BEEN GROWING SLOWLY AS THEY DEVELOP THINGS.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT AT NIGHT, YOU CAN'T SEE THE STARS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A MINOR ISSUE PROBABLY ON YOUR PLATE, UH, BUT IT, AS A,
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A HOMEOWNER, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT TO US.SO I GUESS I'M KIND OF FEELING LEFT OUT OF THE WHOLE, UH, PROCESS SINCE YOU MENTIONED IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
UH, AND WE'VE ONLY RECEIVED THIS ONE.
NOTICE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A MEETING ABOUT IT.
THE MICROPHONE IS ON, SO ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 58 26 HUARD ROAD, DUBLIN, OHIO.
I'M JUST A COUPLE, ACTUALLY A COUPLE LOTS UP FROM THE LARGE HOCHER PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
AND LIKE RICK SAID, WHEN WE MOVED THERE, ORIGINALLY MOVED FROM BALLANT TREE, ACTUALLY GREAT, GREAT DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE MOVED OUT, WANTED TO BE A LITTLE OUT IN THE COUNTRY AND IT'S PRETTY DARK OUT THERE.
IT'S REALLY NICE FOR LOOKING AT STARS, GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF COUNTRY AND TRYING TO AVOID MORE OF THE CITY LIFE.
UM, AND WHEN WE, WHEN I HEARD SOME ORIGINALLY A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THEY WERE LOOKING AT PROPERTY AND DEVELOPING IT.
AND ON THE COS GRAY SIDE, THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOING SOME ENTRE HOMES, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS EXCELLENT.
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU HAVE ENTRE THERE, YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CONTINUITY.
AND THEN ALSO HEARD ABOUT SOME RURAL TRANSITION WHEN WE INITIALLY BEEN EIGHT YEARS AGO.
THEY'RE IN CONSIDERATION OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE THERE.
WE'RE NOT IN A BALANCE TREE SITUATION.
WE'RE IN THE COUNTRY, HAVING HOMES THAT GO IN HAVE A LITTLE LARGER LOTS THAT WOULD BLEND IN.
ALSO, LIGHT POLLUTION IS HUGE.
YOU GET WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN STREET LIGHTS OR WHATEVER, PERMANENT LIGHTS THAT ARE GONNA BE ON.
BUT AS I SAT HERE TONIGHT AND I LISTENED TO ALL THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOUR, THE WOOD OR THE FENCING, ALL THE THINGS THAT I KNOW I LIVED UP MORE TOWARDS, UM, OFF OF, UH, DUBLIN ROAD WHEN WE FIRST FIRST MOVED HERE MANY 35 YEARS AGO.
YOU TAKE A LOT OF CONSIDERATION OF WHAT YOU DO, WHAT YOU BUILD IN THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE HERE.
I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU WILL ALSO TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION FOR O THOSE OF US WHO LIVE ON THAT STREET.
BECAUSE WHEN I SEE THE INDUSTRIAL USES AND WHAT, HOW WIDE THAT CAN BE AND WHAT'S GONNA BE AT THE END, TWO, TWO PLOTS OVER FROM ME.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE LIVED THERE, WE'VE INVESTED IN THERE, WE HAVE EIGHT ACRES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT THAT VALUE'S GONNA BE.
BUT EVEN BEYOND THE VALUE, WE, WE BUILT THAT TO LIVE THERE THE REST OF OUR LIVES.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP THINGS.
I JUST HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND WE'RE IN THE COUNTRY, WE'RE NOT IN YOUR DUBLIN PROPER, THAT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE IN CONSIDERATION EVERYBODY WHO LIVES ON THAT STREET BEFORE YOU PUT ANOTHER WAREHOUSE ON THERE.
UM, SO I WAS SHOCKED LOOKING AT WAREHOUSES AND INDUSTRIAL USES AND KNOWING HOW QUICKLY THINGS CAN SLIDE BY ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE BUILDING AND THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE.
SO I'M HOPING THAT AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, YOU WILL TAKE ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA OR WHATEVER AREA YOU'RE WORKING ON, AND IT JUST DOESN'T SLIDE IN UNDERNEATH THE DOOR.
AND WE HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE TAKING CONSIDERATION FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO LIVE IN DUBLIN AND THE WOOD AND THE FENCES, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT US AND SAY, WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE OUT HERE? NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY FOR US PERSONALLY, BUT VISUALLY.
AS YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND YOU HAVE WAREHOUSES OR INDUSTRIAL USES, YOU'VE GOT FARM HOMES OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU COULD HAVE HORSES, ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET HAS FOUR HORSES.
IT'S A DIFFERENT AREA THAN WHAT YOU HAVE IN DUBLIN PROPER.
SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO US.
I, I'M SHOCKED AND UPSET BY RIGHT NOW TONIGHT.
AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU'RE, YOU, YOU'RE PUTTING YOURSELVES IN OUR POSITION IF YOU LIVE THERE AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND HOW YOU'RE REZONING THAT YOU'RE TAKING CONSIDERATION THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THAT STREET.
I'M SORRY, I'M A LITTLE UPSET, A LITTLE WORRIED, BUT THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND, AND MAYBE TOO I CAN REITERATE, SO WHEN AN APPLICATION GETS SUBMITTED, UM, IT'S A 300 FOOT BUFFER.
SO SIMILAR TO TONIGHT, THE RESIDENTS WITHIN, WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE CITY OR NOT, IF YOU'RE AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, YOU'RE GETTING NOTIFIED WHEN A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION COMES FORWARD.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU'D BE MADE AWARE WHEN A PROJECT COMES FORWARD AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO STAFF.
AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M HEARING DEFINITELY HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, AND WE'RE AGAIN LOOKING AT THIS LARGER WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT FROM A, UM, FOR POTENTIAL OTHER CODE AMENDMENTS THAT MAYBE NEED TO BE MADE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS OTHER, THIS, UM, INTEGRATED PLANNING PROCESS.
SO THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR US AND FOR US TO BE MINDFUL WHEN PROJECTS COME FORWARD.
YEAH, YOU READ, YOU READ MY MIND.
I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO ACTUALLY ELABORATE ON THAT.
SO YOU, YOU YOU DID THAT AND, AND AGAIN, I WANNA
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REITERATE THAT, UM, THIS GROUP, OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IS GUIDED BY THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH WAS JUST APPROVED LAST YEAR.AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE HERE TO UPHOLD THE COMMUNITY PLAN, THAT PROCESS AND THE PROCESS OF, OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
SO IT, WE, WE HAVE, UM, OVERSIGHT OVER MAKING SURE THAT THI THE, THE RULES ARE FOLLOWED, THE THE CODE IS FOLLOWED.
AND THAT, AGAIN, IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH IS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, INCLUDING LAND USE, WHICH THEN DRIVES ZONING AND THEN DRIVES DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, WE ARE FOLLOWING AND, AND SUPPORTING THE, THE CITY'S CODE THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED.
OTHER COMMENTS YOU MENTION? SO THAT'S FOR NOTIFICATION, NOT FOR ANY KIND OF SITE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE PROPERTY ABUTS, YOU KNOW, ANY PROPERTY THAT COMES IN WITHIN THIS AREA, THERE'S A YEAH.
ANYONE THAT LIVES WITHIN 300 FEET WOULD GET A NOTIFICATION WHEN AN APPLICATION COMES FORWARD.
YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR, UM, RESPONSIBILITY OR YOUR COMMITMENT IS TO FOLLOW THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
THAT TIDE IS ABOUT CHANGING WHAT IS TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR BY CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING.
THIS ZONING IS A, THE NEXT STEP OF FROM GOING FROM LAND USE TO THEN ZONING TO ESTABLISH THE TYPES OF USES THAT WOULD OCCUR WITHIN THE LAND USE IS ESTABLISHED IN THAT PLAN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
JENNY, IS THERE ANY ONLINE COMMENTS? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYMORE.
WHAT'S QUESTION FOR JENNY? SO, BASED ON WHAT SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS, I WOULD, PEOPLE THAT DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY HAVE NOTICED AND OR AN ABILITY TO COMMENT ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT'S FOR THE CITY.
AND, AND I GUESS I, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A POOR QUESTION ON MY END BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS A DOUBLE QUESTION.
WOULD THEY, WOULD, IS THERE AN OBLIGATION ON THE CITY TO PROVIDE NOTICE WITHIN A CERTAIN RANGE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE ON THE OUTS THAT DO NOT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY, ARE PROVIDED A NOTICE, DIRECT NOTICE VIA MAIL OR PERSONAL THAT THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
SO, I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY PLAN EFFORT THAT WE UNDERTOOK WAS, WE DID NOT SEND DIRECT NOTICES TO PEOPLE IN THE CITY.
SO, I MEAN, THAT WAS DEFINITELY, OTHER THAN I THINK MAYBE THE VERY FIRST TIME, UM, JUST TO SORT OF KICK OFF THAT PROJECT.
SO, UM, IT WAS ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE HAD, I MEAN, LOTS OF COMMUNICATION OPPORTUNITIES SHARED.
WE HAD, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF YEAH.
SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT WE ALSO, I MEAN THIS, THAT WAS BEFORE YOUR, THIS BODY ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD CITY COUNCIL, AROUND A HALF A DOZEN TIMES.
SO I MEAN, THERE WAS LOTS OF PUBLIC FORUMS FOR THAT, UM, THAT WAS SHARED COMMUNITY WIDE AND BEYOND.
UM, SO YES, THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
AND I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M TRUE.
AND WE DID HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE TOO, I GUESS.
UM, SO WE DID HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE, UM, THAT INCLUDED WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, UM, REPRESENTATION, UM, AS A MEMBER OF THAT AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
I THINK WE'VE SHARED THAT BEFORE.
WRIGHT CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS.
SO WE REALLY TRIED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A WIDE VARIETY OF PEOPLE, UM, ON THAT COMMITTEE TO HELP REPRESENT ALL THOSE INTERESTS AS WELL.
NO, I, I JUST, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SOMEWHAT SIM SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT SOME OF THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE.
AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE THE BODY THAT MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS.
YOU HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN, AN ADDITIONAL CHANCE TO COME BACK AND TALK TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EXPLAIN THE SAME THINGS YOU EXPLAIN HERE.
UH, BUT TO BE CLEAR, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS CLEAR, IS THAT IF THIS GETS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AFTER OUR RECOMMENDATION, AND PLEASE, JENNY, WITH THAT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AS LONG AS THOSE, THE USES ARE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THOSE SECTIONS, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO.
'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY, IT'S NOT GONNA GO THROUGH US ANYMORE.
IT'S NOT GONNA GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.
SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT, THAT THAT'S
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THE WAY THAT'S GONNA WORK.SO YOU, SO A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, THEY'RE GONNA SUBMIT, AN APPLICANT IS GONNA SUBMIT AN APPLICATION RIGHT.
TO OUR DEPARTMENT, AND THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, CORRECT? RIGHT.
AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, UM, THAT THAT COULD BE APPROVED BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM.
IF THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE OR A STANDARD OF THE CODE THAT'S NOT MET, THAT IS WHEN THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT'S NOT BEING MET COMES TO YOU.
SO THAT DOESN'T OPEN UP THE WHOLE CAN OF WORMS FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
IT'S REALLY THAT ISSUE THAT IS, AND WE HAD THAT, UM, WITH THE VAN TRUST BUILDING, RIGHT? THERE WERE TWO PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ASKED TO, UH, MAKE A DETERMINATION ON.
OKAY, WE HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, SO APOLOGIZE, BUT WE'RE MOVING THROUGH WITH OUR DELIBERATIONS NOW, DAN, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IDEA THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED NOISE, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION, WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT NOISE.
UM, AND I WONDER IF THIS IS IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO, UH, NOT ONLY THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE UP BUT ALSO BALANCE TRAY THAN PREVIOUS.
UH, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE PARTICULARLY TALKING ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS, SO, UM, THAT IS OF CONCERN TO ME.
UM, BUT OVERALL, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOMEHOW CONSIDERED GOING FORWARD.
UM, I THINK SINCE THIS WAS PART OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED COMMUNITY PLAN, THOUGH, GENERALLY I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE TO MATCHING THE ZONING, UH, TO THAT PLAN.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER SOMETHING SHOULD BE INPUT TO, UH, ADDRESS SOUND.
CAN, CAN WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF NOISE AND WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO I MEAN, HONESTLY, THAT'S A VERY TIMELY QUESTION.
SO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SECTION THAT YOU JUST SAW, THERE'S A NOISE COMPONENT TO THAT.
SO, UM, WE WOULD, AGAIN, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, UM, WE WOULD, WE HAVE THE ABILITY AND HAVE, UM, DONE SORT OF NOISE STUDIES TO COMPARE, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO SORT OF THE, I FORGET WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS, BUT YEAH, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, UM, THAT WE CAN LOOK AT RELATED TO THAT.
YEAH, NOISE, NOISE ITSELF GENERALLY ISN'T ADDRESSED AS A LAND USE ISSUE.
UM, IT'S USUALLY ADDRESSED AS A NUISANCE TYPE OF ISSUE.
JASON, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? DELIBERATION? YEAH, I, I GUESS I JUST KIND OF THROW THIS OUT TO THE GROUP.
I'M, I'M STRUGGLING A BIT HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS, THE, THE, OUR ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN, AND I AGREE THAT THIS AREA IS RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND MODERNIZATION, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE IS APPROPRIATE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE NOTICE OR WHETHER WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP 'CAUSE THAT THAT'S THE TOWNSHIP THAT IT WAS IN, RIGHT.
IF THEY EVEN NOTIFIED THE RESIDENTS OR MADE ANY, ANY TYPE OF ARGUMENTS ON THEIR BEHALF.
I'M JUST NOT, I'M JUST NOT SURE.
UM, SO IT, YOU KNOW, I'M SU I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF THIS AREA, BUT, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE ALLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN SO LONG AS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES, UH, A PROCESS BY WHICH, UH, CAN SPEED UP THE EFFICIENCY OF THE DESIGN BUILD PIECE.
SO LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE CODE AND THE GUIDELINES, AND I DON'T KNOW, I, I JUST, IT'S LIKE I'M FOR IT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE, TO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE WITH OUTSIDE THE CITY ON THIS, ON THIS INSTANCE, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS A ALIGNING ZONING WITH LAND USE.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT THE LAND, THE LAND USE BEFORE WAS RURAL.
RIGHT? THEY, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT STUFF.
AND NOW IT'S, IT'S THE, THE CITY NEEDS OUR APPROVAL TO ALTER THAT, UH, ZONING.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST, I GUESS FROM THE STANDPOINT, THE COST OF A, A GROWING COMMUNITY, UM, FROM, FROM THAT INSTANCE.
SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR A DISCUSSION POINT.
GARY, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH JENNY, BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE HAVE DI WE HAVE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS BASED ON COMPATIBILITY OF USES AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE ADJACENT USE IS IN DUBLIN OR NOT,
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THAT THE PROPERTY IN DUBLIN IS GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE IF EVERYTHING WAS IN DUBLIN, THAT THEY WILL, IF THEY'RE ADJACENT TO A NON DUBLIN PROPERTY.SO THERE ARE PROTECTIONS BUILT INTO OUR CODE SO THAT, UM, PEOPLE CANNOT NECESSARILY DO THINGS BEYOND OUR CODE BECAUSE THEY'RE AJA, THEY'RE ADJACENT TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN DUBLIN.
SO WE HAVE SOME PROTECTIONS FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS, IS ONE OF THOSE TOO, THAT EVEN IF PEOPLE WERE IMPACTED BEYOND DUBLIN, THE MEASUREMENT OF THE NOISE CAN START AT THE SITE IN DUBLIN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE PROTECTIONS IN OUR CODE, I THINK FOR, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND ADJACENT USES THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT TO WHAT THIS COULD BE, BUT, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LOGIC TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND HOW IT WAS DEVELOPED.
SO I AM, UM, I UNDERSTAND CONCERNS, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PLAN, I DO THINK IT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU KATHY? UH, YES, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
I FEEL LIKE, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME SPENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN, UM, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, GIVING THAT CHANCE TO GROW AND TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THAT AREA TOO WITH THE RAILROAD AND SO FORTH.
AND THERE ARE MANY, UH, SAFEGUARDS THAT WE HAVE.
TONIGHT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT AS WELL TOO.
AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, PRECEDENCES WHERE WE, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT SUMMIT VIEW IN THAT CORNER, AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME KIND OF, UH, SITUATION, UH, THAT IT WON'T COME BACK TO US.
SO, UM, THIS IS A NEW OPPORTUNITY AND, UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, VALID FOR CITY COUNCIL TO, UH, HAVE, HAVE AT IT.
UM, I'M ALSO IN AGREEMENT OF THE REZONING.
I, I THINK IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S REINFORCING THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
UM, I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL LOCATED ALONG THE RAIL LINE AND WANTING TO KIND OF DISCOURAGE THAT.
AND IF IT HAPPENED THEN, YOU KNOW, HUGE BUFFERS AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE, AS WE LOOKED AT IT, UM, WE FELT THAT IT'S WAS MUCH MORE SUITABLE TO THESE TYPES OF USES.
AND I, SO I THINK THE COMMUNITY PLAN KIND OF SET THAT DIRECTION.
THE ZONING REINFORCES IT AND SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DELIBERATIONS, DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO, UM, UH, I'D LIKE A MOTION FOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OF THE STANDARD DISTRICT REZONING.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND COMING IN TONIGHT.
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COMMUNICATIONS, UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY, OTHER THAN I THINK ZACH MENTIONED, OR BASSA MAYBE MENTIONED ABOUT TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.SO PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THAT.
THERE'S STILL TIME TO SIGN UP FOR EITHER A PA OR ULI.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE CAN MAKE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS.
WE HAVE STAFF GOING TO BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO VIRTUAL OPTIONS FOR SOME OF THEM TOO, AND I BELIEVE SOME OF YOU WERE INTERESTED.
SO, UM, JUST BEING MINDFUL OF THAT.
SO THEN THE ONLY, YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS JUST OUR NEXT MEETING'S ON THE 6TH OF MARCH, SO THAT'S IT.
WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME TONIGHT.
IT WILL GET BETTER EVERY TIME.
AND BY THE WAY, I'M SHARING THE NEXT MEETING TOO, SO LOOK OUT