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[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]
TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 9TH, 2020, 2025 MEETING.THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL WHEN PLANNING OF PROPERTY OR REZONING OR UNDER CONSIDERATION.
IN SUCH CASES, COUNCIL RECEIVES A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
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STATE THAT NO NEW AGENDA ITEMS ARE TO BE INTRODUCED.
AFTER 10:30 PM THE ORDER OF EVENTS FOR THIS EVENING, THE APPLICANT WILL FIRST PRESENT THEIR CASE, UH, FOLLOWED BY STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION.
THE COMMISSION WILL THEN BE FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF BOTH THE APPLICANT AND OF STAFF.
FOLLOWING THESE QUESTIONS, WE WILL, WE WILL OPEN TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THE COMMISSION DELIBERATES ON EACH CASE.
ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE INVITED IN.
PLEASE ENSURE THAT THE GREEN LIGHT ON YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON AS YOU SEE HERE.
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[Case #24-150CP]
ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST CASE.THIS IS 24 DASH ONE 50 CP REVIEW AND NON BITING FEEDBACK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 330 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, COMMERCIAL AND OPEN SPACE.
THE APPROXIMATELY 19 ACRE SITE, LO, IS LOCATED NORTH OF BLAZER, PARKWAY AND SOUTH OF THE CAUSE GRADE DITCH, AND IS ZONED OFF OFFICE, LABORATORY AND RESEARCH DISTRICT.
YOUR MICROPHONE IS CURRENTLY LIVE.
UH, ERIC BOX 6 2 9 NORTH HIGH STREET.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN, A COUPLE NEW FACES SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT WE PRESENTED THIS PROPOSAL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UH, ALMOST EXACTLY, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, ARE REALLY EXCITED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.
UH, IT'S BEEN, I THINK AFTER OUR LAST MEETING IN, IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, WE FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE FRAMEWORK OF THE PLAN WAS GOING.
UH, WE WERE INCORPORATING A LOT OF THE COMMENTS FROM THIS COMMISSION AND STAFF.
UH, IT HAD BEEN LIKE, I THINK OUR THIRD MEETING AT THE TIME.
UM, AND WE WERE REALLY READY TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP.
UM, AND TALKING WITH, WITH CHRIS AND JENNY AND, AND STAFF THAT WE REALIZED WE WERE OUT AHEAD OF THE CITY A LITTLE BIT ON THEIR PLANNING STUDY FOR, FOR THIS AREA.
SO WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD WAIT, UM, LET THEM DO, UH, WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO IN THEIR PROCESS, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE CAME BACK HERE, WE WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE ANY OF THE IDEAS AND CHANGES, UM, THAT CAME OUTTA THAT PROCESS INTO OUR PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND TO THANK, UM, CHRIS AND JENNY AND ZACH.
UM, THEY DID A TREMENDOUS JOB OVER THIS LAST YEAR, EVEN THOUGH WE WEREN'T HERE FOR A YEAR, WE WERE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THEM, UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE, THE METRO COMMUNITY.
AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET DONE WITH THEIR CONSULTANT TEAM IN THE LAST YEAR HAS BEEN BEEN PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS STILL A CONCEPT LEVEL PLAN.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT THAT WE STILL HAVE TO COORDINATE AND WORK WITH STAFF AND COMMISSION ON, UH, A LOT OF THE DETAILS, UH,
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THAT WE STILL NEED TO, TO FIGURE OUT.UM, BUT I WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES REALLY QUICKLY AND THEN I'LL HAND IT OFF TO JEFF TO COME UP AND REALLY GO OVER THE PLAN.
UH, SINCE WE WERE HERE, UH, THE LAST TIME.
I THINK WE HIT A LOT OF THESE SLIDES, SO I DON'T WANNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON 'EM.
I WANT TO BE, UM, UM, HAVE A, JUST GO THROUGH 'EM REALLY QUICK.
I THINK THERE'S ONE SLIDE SPECIFICALLY RIGHT HERE.
SO ONE THING I DO WANNA MENTION AGAIN, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IT DOES SAY 18.9 ACRES, BUT THERE'S ABOUT A FOUR AND A FIVE ACRE PART OF THAT NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE THAT IS IN THE COSWAY CORRIDOR FLOODPLAIN.
UH, SO WE REALLY HAVE TO STAY BELOW THAT.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PLANT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE STAYING A LITTLE BIT SOUTH.
AND THEN JEFF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GO OVER OUR PLAN.
UH, COMMISSIONERS JEFFREY GON MKSK 4 6 2 SOUTH LUDLOW ALLEY.
KEEPING ME UP PRETTY WELL HERE.
SO, UM, Y YOU'RE ALL WELL AWARE OF THE, UM, METRO PLACE, UM, OUTCOMES AND WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY, UM, WITH IS, UM, OUR, UM, FIRST SORT OF, UM, ATTEMPT TO REALLY FIT INTO, UM, THAT METRO PLACE PLAN AND SPECIFICALLY THE STREET GRID AND CONNECTIONS, UM, FROM NORTH, UH, METRO PLACE TO SOUTH BLAZER PARKWAY, UM, IN THE BEST, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BEST OF INTENTS.
SO CHRIS, COULD YOU HELP ME OUT AND POINT TO THE SORT OF BLAZER PARKWAY, NORTH SOUTH EXTENSION TO METRO PLACE? DID MR. BUCK LEAVE THE SLIDE ADVANCER UP HERE? YES.
DOES THAT, DO I HAVE A MOUSE ON HERE ALSO? YEP.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A MOUSE TO POINT OUT, BUT, OKAY.
YOU ALL KNOW YOUR WAY AROUND THE MAP.
THE, THE, I JUST WANNA REFERENCE A FEW, COUPLE, UM, KEY CONNECTIONS HERE.
ONE IS BLAZER PARKWAY IN ITS NEW EXTENSION NORTH TO METRO PLACE.
THE BLAZER PARKWAY T INTERSECTION, CHRIS, RIGHT ABOVE YOUR THANK YOU.
AND THEN THE EAST WEST ROAD THAT RUNS ALONG COS GRAY ROAD AND THEN CONNECTS BACK UP TO METRO PLACE.
AND THEN FINALLY THE LAST ONE, CHRIS, IS THAT CONNECTION DOWN TO THE OLD ASHLYN SITE, WHICH IS, YES, THANK YOU.
SO IN ESSENCE, OUR NEW PLAN IS GONNA TRY TO REACT OR IS TRYING TO REACT TO THOSE NEW STREETS.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT STREETS CREATE, THEY CREATE DEVELOPMENT BLOCKS AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIT INTO THERE.
UM, THIS IS AN ENLARGEMENT OF THEIR PLAN.
I'LL USE THIS, UM, AS NEEDED FOR REFERENCE IN THE FUTURE.
BUT, UM, THIS, I THINK SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO OUR SITE, THE NEXT, THE CONNECTION TO COS GRAY RUN TO THE EAST SMILEY PARK, AND TO THE WEST, A FUTURE OPEN SPACE AMENITY THAT WILL BE DEFINED IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THIS MAP IS AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTING THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE, UM, WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SORT OF REITERATE WHAT THE METRO PLACE PLAN WAS TRYING TO DO, WAS TRYING TO CREATE A MORE CONNECTED STREET GRID FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
AND, UM, ALONGSIDE THAT, UM, WHAT THIS MAP SHOWS IN THE DASHED ARROWS ARE THE SORT OF PEDESTRIAN, UM, ROUTES OF TRAVEL CONNECTIVITY TRAILS AND WHATNOT, UM, THAT CONNECT FOLKS FROM METRO DOWN TO BLAZER, AS WELL AS TWO POINTS ALONG THAT FUTURE COS GRAY RUN PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AMENITY.
SO THIS IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT, UM, OF THIS IS OUR PLAN REACTING TO THOSE STREETS.
THIS IS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IN PLACE.
SO IF YOU'LL FOLLOW ALONG AS I DON'T THINK MY POINTER WILL WORK UNLESS CHRIS WANTS TO HELP ME OUT HERE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT NEW T INTERSECTION WHERE BLAZER PARKWAY COMES INTO THAT NORTH, SOUTH ROAD.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD CONNECTING UP TO, UM, METRO PLACE THAT WOULD BE AS DESIGNED, UM, IS A BOULEVARD, UM, ROADWAY SECTION, UM, WITH ON STREET PARKING AND THE SORT OF HIGH QUALITY AMENITIES THAT YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, UM, ALONG THAT ROADWAY.
SO THAT'S SORT OF A, A PRIME, UH, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY, UM, ROADWAY INTERSECTION.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE EAST WEST ROAD ALONG COS GRAY, UM, RUN, WHICH CONNECTS, UM, TWO POINTS EAST
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AND POINTS WEST AND ESSENTIALLY FRONTS THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH A PUBLIC STREET ONTO THAT PUBLIC OPEN SPACE COMPONENT.AND THEN FINALLY, UM, LAST ONE ON THIS SLIDE, I THINK CHRIS IS THE CONNECTION FROM, FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL DOWN TO THAT ASHLAND SITE.
AND YOU KNOW, THE INTENT OF THAT ROADWAY AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, IS TO CREATE A MORE SORT OF TRADITIONAL STREET GRID, UM, CONNECTION TO THAT SERIES OF BUILDINGS AND THAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO IN ESSENCE, MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PLAN, BUT IT'S A SERIES OF, UM, FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, UM, UH, POTENTIALLY SOME THREE STORY BUILDINGS FURTHER TO THE WEST WHERE THE SCALE GETS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, UM, AS NEEDED.
UM, THE HEART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SORT OF A FEW OR THE NOT HEART, BUT THE KIND OF KEY AMENITIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ARE A FEW DIFFERENT PIECES.
SO I'LL START ON THE SOUTH ALONG BLAZER WITH THE MAIN ENTRY INTO THE PROPERTY AND A RETAIL COMPONENT THAT YOU SEE LABELED THERE AS YOU MOVE FARTHER NORTH IN THE CENTER OF THE, UM, PROJECT, YOU SEE KIND OF THE COMMUNITY PRIMARY AMENITY THERE, WHICH IS THAT, UM, UM, UM, POOL AND OUTDOOR, UM, RECREATION AMENITY AND THEN JUST SORT OF NORTH NORTHEAST OF THAT IF, IF YOU WILL, UM, IS THE CLUBHOUSE FEATURE.
SO THE IDEA, UM, KNOWING THAT THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, A SORT OF, UM, INTENSELY ACTIVE STREET, BUT WE ARE STILL PROVIDING SORT OF PULSE POINTS ALONG THAT NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR THAT GIVE IT A LEVEL OF ACTIVATION, UM, AT THE GROUND FLOOR.
SO, UM, THE RETAIL AT THAT NEW BLAZER PARKWAY INTERSECTION, UM, THE ENTRY TO THE CLUBHOUSE.
AND THEN FINALLY AS YOU GO NORTH OVER COS GRAY RUN, UM, SOME SORT OF, UM, PARK FEATURE THAT WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ANCHOR THAT, UH, ALONG THE WAY.
UM, LET ME KIND OF CLICK THROUGH HERE.
SO SOME SIMILAR, UM, IMAGES THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE IN TERMS OF WHAT PASSIVE AND MORE ACTIVE SPACE LOOK LIKE AND WHAT SOME OF THE OUTDOOR REAL OUTDOOR RETAIL SPACE POOL AND LAWN SPACE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
JUST TO PAINT A PICTURE OF, UM, THE EXTERIOR ENVIRONMENT.
AND THEN A QUICK LOOK AT, UM, WHAT THAT, UM, NORTH SOUTH ROAD THAT CONNECTOR WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH, UM, THE BOULEVARD STREET SECTION.
SOME ON STREET PARKING AND, UH, TRAVEL LANES.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT'S FLANKED BY, UM, BOTH A SHARED USE PATH, UM, AND A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS DIAGRAM.
AND THEN THE EAST SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM, JUST A TRADITIONAL STREETS SCAPE WITH A SIDEWALK SO THAT YOU HAVE BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND, AND BICYCLE AMENITIES HERE.
UM, THIS IS, UM, AGAIN, SORT OF A, A RE REPRESENTATION OF THAT STREETSCAPE AS APPLIED TO, UM, OUR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AND THEN THIS TRANSITIONS INTO ARCHITECTURE.
SO, UM, CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO, UM, PASS IT ON TO TIM TO TALK ABOUT ARCHITECTURE OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE SITE, YOUR PRESENTATION? SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO PROCEED THROUGH IT.
WE'LL HANDLE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS AT ONCE.
HELLO, I'M TIM DONAHUE WITH MA DESIGN, UH, 7 75 YARD STREET.
UM, SO THE, THE ARCHITECTURE, THIS, WE'VE KIND OF HAD THIS ONGOING KIND OF DESIGN THEME WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, NOW THROUGH A LOT OF THESE ITERATIONS, UM, OUR INTENTION IS TO, UH, USE, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF MORE NATURAL MATERIALS, SO THE BRICK, ESPECIALLY DOWN, DOWN LOW WHERE, UH, THE PEOPLE WILL ENGAGE IT WITH THE ALONG THE SIDEWALK, UH, AND THEN KIND OF THE WOOD LOOK ACCENT SIDING, UH, KIND OF TO GIVE SOME RELIEF TO THE BUILDING.
AND THEN FIBER CEMENT SIDING THE REST OF THE FACADE, UH, TRYING TO DO KIND OF LARGER WINDOWS.
UH, AND THEN THE GROUND FLOOR, THE INTENTION IS ALONG THE PRIMARY STREETS TO KIND OF DO MORE OF A KIND OF TOWNHOUSE ENTRY FEATURE THAT WILL HAVE A STOOP AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO KIND OF INTERACT WITH THE STREETS SO THEY CAN COME AND GO, UH, AND, AND ENGAGE THE, UH, SIDEWALK AND THE THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS.
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UM, SO REAL QUICK ON THE ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS, AND I KNOW CHRIS AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S STILL STANDARDS BEING DEVELOPED FOR, FOR THIS AREA AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK, UM, WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE, THE STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICT, UM, LIVING WITH ART.I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT ON THE LAST COUPLE PRESENTATIONS, BUT I THOUGHT I'D HIT ON IT AGAIN AND I THINK KIM, IT, I THINK IT WAS YOU A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO THAT TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, A DESTINATION AND CREATING THESE DESTINATION PLACES AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MULTIPLE, UM, THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO CREATE THESE DESTINATIONS, RIGHT? ONE, YOU KNOW, REALLY FOCUSING ON THE COSWAY CORRIDOR AND THE OPEN SPACE AND BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE, TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, RIGHT? KIND OF OPENING THAT PUBLIC REALM.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE RETAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE WITH THE DOG PARK.
AGAIN, JUST KIND OF DRAWING PEOPLE TO THAT PORTION OF THE SITE.
AND THEN FOR US, IT'S KINDA REALLY DEAR TO OUR HEART IS THE, IS THE LIVING WITH ART.
AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT BEFORE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE CURATED ART PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE ART INSIDE THE BUILDING AND THE ROOMS IN THE AMENITIES SPACES AND THE CLUBHOUSES AND THE CORRIDORS, BUT ALSO THE OUTWARD PUBLIC FACING ART WITH THE MURALS, SCULPTURES, YOU KNOW, THESE LITTLE MOMENTS IN TIME AROUND THE, AROUND THE SITE THAT REALLY CREATE A UNIQUE PACE, PLACE THAT DRAWS, THAT DRAWS PEOPLE IN.
UM, AND I THINK SOME OF THESE IMAGES ARE JUST SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF MURALS OUT OUTSIDE OF LIBRARY PARK, UH, PHASE TWO DOWNTOWN IN COLUMBUS.
AND THEN JUST SOME EXAMPLES ON THE INTERIOR OF HOW WE, UM, PLACE THESE PIECES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITH IT EVERY DAY AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A MUSEUM TO APPRECIATE, UM, AND SEE ART.
AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
UM, JEFF, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO HIT ON THE SITE? UH, RATHER RESPONSIBLE? YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.
WE'LL TURN TIME OVER TO STAFF AT THIS TIME.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN IS, UM, TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE NON-BINDING FEEDBACK TO THE APPLICANT AND GUIDANCE AT THE EARLY STAGES OF THEIR PROPOSAL, UM, PRIOR TO SUBMITTING A FORMAL APPLICATION LATER.
KEY CONSIDERATIONS AT THIS STAGE ARE THE LAND USE AND DENSITIES, UM, THE GENERAL SITE LAYOUT, STREETS AND CIRCULATION, OPEN SPACE FRAMEWORK AND INTEGRATION WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
UM, DISCUSSION QUESTIONS ARE PROVIDED.
THE 19 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF BLAZER PARKWAY.
THE SITE CONTAINS COSWAY RUN TO THE NORTH, UM, IN A RIPARIAN CORRIDOR.
THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE IS IN AGRICULTURAL USE.
THE COMMUNITY PLAN FEATURE LAND USE FOR THE SITE IS MIXED USE CENTER.
MIXED USE CENTER IS INTENDED TO CREATE A VIBRANT MIXED USE DISTRICT ORGAN ORGANIZED AROUND OPEN SPACE BUILDINGS, TWO TO EIGHT STORIES IN HEIGHT WITH VERTICAL MIXED USE AND GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION AND KEY LOCATIONS.
UM, THE PRINCIPAL USES IN THIS DISTRICT ARE OFFICE HOSPITALITY, MULTIFAMILY LABORATORY AND RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT WITH COMMERCIAL RETAIL BEING SUPPORTING USES.
UM, AS MR. BUCK NOTED, UM, SINCE THE COMMISSION LAST SAW THIS APPLICATION, THE CITY HAS COMPLETED THE METRO CENTER REVITALIZATION PLAN.
UM, CITY OF COUNCIL ADOPTED THIS PLAN IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UM, AND ESTABLISHED THIS WITH A NEW VISION FOR METRO CENTER AS A MIXED USE WALKABLE DISTRICT THAT CONNECTS DEVELOPMENT IN NATURE.
UM, WITHIN THE PLAN, OUR DESIGN FRAMEWORK AND GUIDELINES, UM, WHICH PROVIDE THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY A TOOL TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS TO ENSURE THEY'RE PART OF A COLLECTIVE WHOLE.
UM, AS THE CITY CONDUCTED THIS PROCESS, WE ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY AND MANY STAKEHOLDERS, UM, PITI COMPANY AND THE APPLICANT, UM, WERE ACTIVE MEMBERS AND, UM, WE APPRECIATE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND ENGAGING, UM, WITH THEIR STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK.
SO SOME OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PIECES OF THE FRAMEWORK, UM, ARE MOBILITY, OPEN SPACE AND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE APPLICANT SHOWED SOME OF THESE IMAGES BEFORE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING THEIR SITE TO THE SOUTHWEST IN THAT BLACK AREA, UM, AS PART OF THE MOBILITY FRAMEWORK.
UM, FOLLOWING THE PARADIGM SHIFT RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN, THE INTENT OF METRO CENTER IS TO REALLY, UM, REPRIORITIZE MOBILITY AND FOCUS ON PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLISTS AND CREATING CONNECT CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND THROUGH OTHER PIECE, OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
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UM, RATHER SO SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS SITE OR THE NEW METRO BLAZER CONNECTOR, CONNECTING BLAZER WITH METRO PLACE SOUTH.UM, THE CREATION OF A NETWORK OF NEW STREETS DESIGNED TO BE CONTACT SENSITIVE, AGAIN ORIENTED AROUND PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLISTS.
UM, A METRO BIKE LOOP RUNNING THROUGH THE COS GRAY RUN, CONNECTING TO THE REST OF METRO CENTER.
UM, AND A MOBILITY HUB NEAR THE COS GRAY RUN AS WELL SHOWN HERE AND EARLIER BY THE APPLICANT TOO IS A CONCEPTUAL PIECE OF WHAT THAT METRO BLAZER LOOKS LIKE.
TWO LANE STREET ON STREET PARKING, UM, RICH PEDESTRIAN BICYCLIST, UM, FACILITIES.
THE INTENT AGAIN HERE IS TO MAKE THIS MORE BIKE FRIENDLY, UM, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, BUT ALSO ADD GREEN INTO THE STREETS SCAPE AS WELL.
THE OTHER MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE REVITALIZATION PLAN IS THAT OPEN SPACE NETWORK.
UM, THE PLAN REALLY RECOMMENDS TAKING AN OPEN SPACE FIRST APPROACH TO DESIGN.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE LARGER METRO CENTER IS DESIGNED AROUND FIVE LANDSCAPE ROOMS, COS GRAY ONE IS ONE OF THOSE ROOMS THAT ARE ON PRESENT ON THIS SITE.
THE INTENT OF THE COS GRAY RUN IS TO CREATE A MORE NATURALIZED EXPERIENCE.
IT'S A CORRIDOR FOR WALKING AND BIKING, BUT ACTIVATION AROUND KEY NODES.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THE STRATEGIC ACTIVATION AREA IS ONE OF THOSE KEY NODES ALONG THE COS GRAY RUN.
UM, AND THE IDEA IS TO ALSO CREATE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS TO THE COS GRAY RUN AND OTHER OPEN SPACES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, UM, BUILDS UPON THE MI FEATURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
UM, AND ONE OF THE CORE TENETS OF THE REVITALIZATION PLAN IS TO REIMAGINE THE MIX OF USES, WHICH ARE IN METRO CENTER TODAY, WHICH IS PRIMARILY AN OFFICE, UM, IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
SO RESIDENTIAL IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, RECOMMENDED USES, UM, IN THE DISTRICT IN THE FUTURE.
AGAIN, BUILDING UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
MIXED USE IS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN METRO CENTER.
THE PLAN TENDS TO PRIORITIZE WHERE WE NEED TO PUT COMMERCIAL AND GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION.
UM, AGAIN, OVER THE NEXT 5, 10, 20 YEARS, THERE'S AL ONLY SO MUCH DEMAND FOR COMMERCIAL IN DUBLIN AND IN METRO CENTER.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THAT IN A SMART WAY THAT IS PRIORITIZED MOSTLY TOWARDS THE WATERWAY PARK OR THE INTERLOOP AREA.
UM, THIS SITE DOES HAVE ACTIVE EDGE AND STRATEGIC ACTIVATION, UM, AREA RECOMMENDATIONS BY BLAZER PARKWAY, UM, AND CLOSER TO COS GRAY RUN, THE PLAN MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT ARE APPROPRIATE USES IN THOSE AREAS, INCLUDING ACTIVATED SHARED LOBBIES, UM, KIND OF CLUBHOUSES YOU CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL AS WELL, UM, AND RESIDENTIAL ACTIVATION PIECES AS AS WELL.
UM, THE SITE PLAN THAT THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON ON JANUARY, 2024 IS TO THE LEFT.
UM, THIS INCLUDED SIX RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, A CLUBHOUSE, UM, THE NORTH SOUTH METRO BLAZER CONNECTION, UM, AND THE COSGRAVE RUN.
YOU CAN SEE THE STREET WAS, UH, AT A DOG EAR WITH THE STORMWATER PONDS CLOSER TO BLAZER PARKWAY.
UM, AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED, THE PROPOSED CHANGES HAVE STRAIGHTENED OUT, UM, AND REALIGNED THAT METRO BLAZER CONNECTION AND INTERSECTION WITH BLAZER PARKWAY.
THE CITY HAS CONTINUED TO STUDY THAT INTERSECTION AS PART OF THAT REVITALIZATION PLAN.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS CONTINUING TO, UM, FOCUS ON THE COS RUN WITH THE ADDITION OF A MOBILITY HUB AND, UH, EXTENSION OF THE METRO BIKE LOOP.
UM, THEY'VE SHIFTED THE CLUBHOUSE CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION, WHICH FURTHER ACTIVATES THAT INTERSECTION IN ADDITION TO THE, THE BIKE HUB AND THEIR PLACEMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING ALONG BLAZER PARKWAY FURTHER ACTIVATES THAT INTERSECTION AS WELL.
UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS AND CHARACTER IMAGERY ARE UNCHANGED AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED FROM LAST TIME OR THE PREVIOUS, UH, PLAN REVIEW.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REVIEW AND NON-BINDING FEEDBACK.
WE HAVE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS, UM, TO FACILITATE THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK.
AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MR. WILL, UH, LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS.
MR. CHIN, DO YOU WANNA START US OFF? SURE, THANKS.
UM, SO I GUESS I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE, UM, APPLICANT.
YOU, MIKE, CAN YOU PUT THE, UH, FRAMEWORK PLAN BACK UP PLEASE? THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE OR JUST THE BIG FRAMEWORK THAT HAS, THAT SHOWS THE SITE WITH METRO PLACE ON THE SAME AS THE FRAMEWORK MAP? YES.
SO MY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IS THAT, AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS VERY, A VERY CONCEPTUAL
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LOOK AT THE WHOLE SPACE, BUT AS YOU KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE CONNECTION, THERE'S A LOT OF ORGANIC NATURE TO HOW METRO PLACES IS NOW AND HOW IT'S GOING TO EVOLVE.AND I THINK WE'VE, I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IS YOU'VE KIND OF STRAIGHTENED OUT THE ROADS, YOU'VE KIND OF MADE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'LL CALL IT RIGID.
YOU'VE LOST A LITTLE BIT OF THE ORG.
I AGAIN APPRECIATE THE BOULEVARD.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, HOW YOU FEEL LIKE THE, THE REASON, I'M SURE IT WAS PROBABLY COST, YOU CAN MAXIMIZE THE SITE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE LOST A LITTLE BIT OF ORGANIC NATURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN METRO PLACE.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS LAID OUT THE SITE, SOME OF THE REASONS FOR DOING THAT? YEAH, THANK YOU.
UM, SO YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT ON.
UM, YEAH, CHRIS, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US THE SIDE BY SIDE AND IF WE NEED TO COME, WELL HOLD HERE FOR A SECOND.
SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT CAME DIRECTLY OUT OF THE METRO PLACE PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT STREET GRID, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE INTERNALIZED ON OUR PROJECT.
SO, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS, BUT IT JUST, LET'S SAY IT OUT LOUD THEN CHRIS, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SIDE BY SIDE FOR ME THAT, UM, JANUARY 24 TO JANUARY 25, I THINK.
SO IF I'M INTERPRETING RIGHT, UM, YOU USED THE WORD ORGANIC, ORGANIC OR NATURAL OR YEAH.
SO, UM, MAYBE A COUPLE WAYS TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
THE PLAN ON THE LEFT, UM, HAS THIS SORT OF ORGANIC LEE SHAPED OR, YOU KNOW, AMOEBA SHAPED, UM, RETENTION PONDS AT THE ENTRY, WHICH WOULD GIVE IT SOME, A MORE ORGANIC FEEL.
AND IT ALSO HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, JUST STRAIGHT UP KIND OF GREEN SPACE, UM, AT THE CORE OF IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE RESPONDING TO AS WELL.
UM, THEN DOES OUR, UM, UH, CURRENT PLAN AND IN SOME WAYS THAT'S A REACTION TO CONNECTING THE STREET GRID, UM, IN THE WAY THAT YOUR FRAMEWORK SUGGESTED.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE SHAPES OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE, ON THE LEFT OR THE WEST HALF OF THE SITE CHANGE A LITTLE BIT FROM PLAN TO PLAN.
AND THAT'S REALLY SO THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT CONNECTION NORTH AND SOUTH DOWN TO THAT ASHLAND SITE.
I WAS CURIOUS, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
I WAS MORE, YEAH, I'M MORE, I WAS GETTING MORE TOWARDS YOU GETTING NATURE OF HOW THE BUILDINGS ARE LAID OUT ON THE SITE, HOW THAT, ESPECIALLY THE NORTH ROAD THAT RUNS, UM, EAST, WEST KIND OF STRAIGHTENS OUT AND YOU KINDA LOOK AT IT IN THE, THE BIGGER PICTURE PLAN.
IT'S, IT'S CURVED, SO I JUST, AND, AND SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE THAT ARE IN THAT PLAN HAVE A LITTLE LIKE, ARE JUST NOT SO, I GUESS WELL LACK OF BETTER TERM GRIDED WHEN YOU LAY IT OUT THE SITE.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO IF YOU GUYS ACCOUNTED FOR THAT.
YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THE BUILDINGS COULD ADD A LITTLE MORE INTEREST IN TERMS OF BEING YEAH, I THINK LAID OUT.
I THINK MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO RESPOND TO THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF THE BUILDINGS IS GENERALLY UNCHANGED.
YOU HA YOU CAN SEE FROM PLAN LEFT TO PLAN, RIGHT? JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ARTICULATION IN THE BUILDING AS WE'VE DEVELOPED THE ARCHITECTURAL FOOTPRINT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, UM, I THINK CONCEPTUALLY, UM, ERIC YOU CAN SPEAK UP, BUT THE BUILDINGS ARE LARGELY UNCHANGED FROM PLACE TO PLACE PLAN TO PLAN.
YEAH, I, NO, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT JEFF.
AND I THINK REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PLAN ON THE LEFT AND THE PLAN ON THE RIGHT IS REALLY US REACTING TO THE METRO REVITALIZATION PLAN AND JUST TRYING TO FIT WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK.
AND THEN, UH, SO THEN I GUESS KIND OF A LITTLE FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT WAS THE BIG, THE BIG THING HERE OBVIOUSLY IS MIXED USE AND MIXED USE MEANS SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THIS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL WITH A SMALL SECTION OF RETAIL.
CAN YOU TALK A BIT FIRST ABOUT WHAT, WHAT RETAIL MEANS IN THAT SPACE? IS IT RESTAURANT OR DID YOU GUYS HAVE A IDEA FOR WHAT RETAIL MEANS? AND THEN FOR THE REST OF THE SITE, WHAT ELSE IS MIXED USE ABOUT? AND, AND AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR VISION.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU SEE AS MIXED USE ABOUT THE SITE? IS THERE GONNA BE OFFICE SPACE? IS THERE, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS BEHIND THAT? SURE.
AND MAYBE, MAYBE CHRIS, YOU, YOU COULD HELP A LITTLE BIT ON THIS TOO, BUT I, I WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MIS MIXED USE DISTRICT PIECE WASN'T NECESSARILY, EACH SITE WAS A MIX OF USES.
NOW WE DO HAVE A MIX OF USES ON HERE WITH THE RETAIL ON THE SOUTH, BUT UM, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THEY RE-ENVISION OR THE CITY REENVISIONED THIS WHOLE AREA IS THAT IT'S THE WHOLE DISTRICT IS A MIX OF USES.
UM, NOW AS FAR AS THE RETAIL GOES, UM, WE SEE IT MORE OF LIKE A SPECIALTY RETAIL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF A RESTAURANT WOULD NECESSARILY BE THE RIGHT USE, ESPECIALLY THIS, THIS FAR BACK.
I, I DO THINK THAT WANTS TO BE MAYBE IN THE CORE OF THE, THE METRO CENTER PLAN OR EITHER ON FRANCE ROAD, BUT YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE A COUPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RETAIL.
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A YOGA STUDIO OR PILATES OR SOME, SOME KIND OF SPECIALTY USE THAT HELPS ACTIVATE THAT CORNER AND BRINGS PEOPLE BACK TO THAT AREA OF THE METRO DISTRICT.
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IS ALL RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALL LABELED.I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THIS, ALL THE BUILDINGS ON THIS PLANT ARE RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND THEN CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT, I I'M SURE YOU GUYS STUDIED DOING GARAGES VERSUS SURFACE PARKING AND KNOW WE KIND OF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAST TIME.
UM, CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE YOU, YOU TALK ABOUT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY IS, IS ONE OF THE WORDS THAT WAS MENTIONED IN HERE AND UM, OBVIOUSLY LESS SURFACE PARKING AND MORE GARAGES MAYBE COULD BE TRANSLATED TO PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT, UM, AGAIN, I'M SURE YOU STUDIED PUTTING GARAGES IN.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT WHERE, HOW YOU GOT TO THIS POINT? UM, JUST BEFORE I DO, WHEN YOU SAY GARAGES, ARE YOU MEANING LIKE BIG PARKING STRUCTURES OR YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
OR BELOW, BELOW, YOU KNOW, BELOW THE RESIDENCE'S PARKING GARAGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE WE'VE SAID BEFORE, IT'S FINANCIALLY IN THIS AREA, LIKE THE RENTS JUST DON'T SUPPORT, UM, SURE.
AND I BELIEVE SB FRIEDMAN DID THIS STUDY AND CAME TO THE, THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF SUBSIDY FROM THE CITY, UM, THE RENTS WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE TRY TO BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL WITH THE PARKING, UM, AND PEOPLE DO WANNA PARK CLOSE TO WHERE THEY LIVE.
UH, SO WE TRY TO LAY IT OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CORRECT PARKING RATIO PER BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE.
AND JEFF, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE STREET GRIDS THEMSELVES ARE A REACTION TO THE, THE METRO CITY OR METRO REVITALIZATION PLAN.
APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.
UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS MORE JUST TRYING TO GET THE BEARINGS ABOUT, UM, GETTING OVER TO METRO, UH, CENTER, THE NEW LOCATION.
HOW MANY MINUTES DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE ME TO WALK OVER TO THAT AREA? JUST THINKING IN ABOUT THAT TIME PERIOD AND THAT CONNECTIVITY? YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY, UM, NORTH TO SOUTH.
MAYBE CHRIS IS GONNA SHOW US A DIFFERENT MAP HERE, BUT
UM, WELL JUST, YEAH, YOU DON'T, MY GUESS IS IT'S PROBABLY BETWEEN A THIRD AND A HALF A MILE FROM OKAY.
UM, I, I'M GUESSING HERE, YOU KNOW, OFF THE RECORD, METRO PLACE TO, UM, OR, OR I'M SORRY, BLAZER UP TO, UM, METRO PLACE SOUTH THAT FEELS LIKE A THOUSAND TO 2000 FEET, KIM.
SO, AND THAT TRANSLATES TO LIKE A FIVE TO 10 MINUTE WALK.
YOU KNOW, MUCH LESS ON A BIKE.
AND THEN ALSO LIKE THE SPEED, UH, IF THE CITY COULD HELP US WITH THAT, IF THEY'RE ANTICIPATING, UM, THAT TO BE A CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA, UM, MORE LIKE A, WOULD IT BE LOWERED OR ABOUT THE SAME OR, AND THEN ESPECIALLY THAT NEW, UH, CORRIDOR, MAYBE TINA CAN COME UP AND ANSWER A FEW OF THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT MAYBE THE EXISTING SPEED.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THE INTENT OF THE FUTURE STREETS ARE TO BE MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED.
UM, SOMEONE MIGHT THINK THESE, UH, SHARED OR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS ARE MORE THAT 25 MILE PER HOUR AND REINFORCED BY THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT TO KIND OF SLOW TRAFFIC VERSUS JUST MARKING IT.
TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND YEAH, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THESE NEW ROUTES WOULD BE POSTED AT 25, HAVE THE NARROW LANES AND, AND THAT, UM, ENVIRONMENT TO SUPPORT SPEED COMPLIANCE.
AND THEN, UM, SO LATELY WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME BACK TO US AND WENT TO UPDATE THINGS THAT HAVE, UH, ABOUT BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 25, 30 YEARS.
THE PRODUCTS THAT YOU ARE BRINGING FORWARD TO US, JUST THINKING INTO THE FUTURE, IF THERE WAS A CHANGE AND YOU END TO UPDATE THINGS, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE PAINTING THEM? UM, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE BRICK, I DON'T, I SEE KIND OF LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, YOU KNOW, FEATURES AND THINGS THAT YOU'RE USING.
AND I'M NOT SURE DOWN THE ROAD IF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU COULD, COULD UPDATE.
I MIGHT ASK TIM TO COME UP AND SPEAK MORE.
I THINK THE INTENTION FOR MOST OF THE ELEVATION WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BRICK AND WE HAVE THE KIND OF WOOD LOOK SIDING, THOSE WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE TOUCHED.
THEY WOULD KIND OF REMAIN THE SAME.
THE ONLY THING THAT COULD PROBABLY EVER BE TOUCHED WOULD BE THE FIBER CEMENT KIND OF SIDING.
SO, UH, AND YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF WORKS WITH THE COLOR SCHEME, SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD VARY TOO FAR OFF OF WHAT IT, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING NOW.
I SAID MAYBE THE ONLY THING I'D ADD TO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO UPDATE A BUILDING IN 30 YEARS FROM NOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BRICK IS, IS BRICK, RIGHT? MM-HMM
I MEAN, YOU COULD PAINT IT MM-HMM
UM, THE OTHER MATERIALS YOU COULD TAKE OFF AND REMOVE OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A BUS STOP CLOSE IN THIS AREA AND WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE TO BE CONSIDERED WITH THE VOLUME NUMBER? IF WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THAT ONE? THERE ARE BUS STOPS ALONG BLAZER AND ON FRANCE ROAD AND CODA SERVICE ALSO THROUGH THE METRO PLACE LOOP, WE'LL CALL IT NOW NORTH AND SOUTH.AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE TRANSIT AND WALKABILITY.
AND THEN I, I JUST HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, UM, FOR THE CITY AS WELL TOO.
SO TWO 70, THERE'S STILL, YOU'RE ABOUT 800 FEET, UM, FROM TWO 70 I BELIEVE, AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF THAT BUFFER OF A BUILDING AND SO FORTH.
ARE YOU ANTICIPATING ANY NOISE OR SITUATIONS FROM TWO 70? IS THAT NOT EVEN A, AN ISSUE? I THINK THE PROPERTY'S 950 FEET FROM THE I TWO 70 RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THERE WAS NOT A NOISE STUDY.
UM, PART OF THE REVITALIZATION PLAN DOES RECOMMEND OFFICE AND MORE OF THAT SUBURBAN HIGHWAY ORIENTED OFFICE ALONG, AND I'LL PULL UP A SLIDE MAYBE THAT HELPS WITH THAT.
UM, ALONG THAT TWO 70 FRONTAGE AND CORRIDOR AND SOME OPEN SPACE AROUND WHERE THE COS GRAY ONE RUN IS, I THINK THE INTENT IS TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT AND VIEW FOR THOSE USES FROM TWO 70 WITH THE MORE MIXED AND RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER USES BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERIOR TO THE SITE.
AND THEN IT'S NEW TO ME TALKING ABOUT THE MOUND THAT'S ALREADY THERE, EXISTING TREES AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA, IF WE DON'T TOUCH THAT, WHICH IS THAT'S THE AVENUE YOU'RE TAKING, UM, AND THEN YOU BUILD ANOTHER AREAS, DOES THAT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS FOR THAT OR ARE YOU FORESEEING ANYTHING TO COME UP IN THAT AREA? THANK YOU.
ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO OCCUR OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.
WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT THE FLOW OF WATER THERE AND IS THE INTENT OF THE PLAN TO KIND OF PRESERVE THAT RIPARIAN OR AREA ALONG THE COS GRAY RUN AND KIND OF REALLY ENHANCE THAT AS BOTH A AESTHETIC FEATURE BUT ALSO A, A SUSTAINABILITY AND A NATURAL ECOLOGICAL FEATURE AS WELL.
UM, ANY BURMING ALONG THE STREET MIGHT CHANGE AGAIN AS THE STREET GRID RECONFIGURES.
UM, AND THEN THE INTENT WOULD BE, UM, TRANSITION FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE IS DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST THAT IS NOT CHANGING WITH THIS.
SO WE WOULD POTENTIALLY, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE TR APPROPRIATE TRANSITION.
SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME LANDSCAPING OR TRADITIONAL SCREENING, UM, IN THE INTERIM.
UM, CHRIS, CAN YOU PULL UP THE MOBILITY PLAN? I JUST HAD A QUESTION I I SEE ON, THERE'S A WHOLE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLANS BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
UM, SO TO THE, THE SOUTH OF THE, WHAT'S THIS IS SHOWING THE, THE LAYOUT OF BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE.
THERE'S ANOTHER WHITE LINE THAT RUNS EAST WEST AND THERE'S SOME RED ARROWS OFF OF BLAZER, METRO BLAZER CONNECTOR.
IS THAT, IS THAT HAVE ANY WEIGHT AS A STREET OR OR CONSIDERATION THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO PRESERVE THAT CORRIDOR AS A STREET? SO THE EXHIBIT HERE IS THE BICYCLE NETWORK MAP AND NOT THE STREET NETWORK.
AND I DO NOT HAVE THAT PULLED UP FOR YOU.
UM, THAT MAP DOES IDENTIFY STREET CONNECTIONS BOTH, UM, FROM THE THOROUGHFARE OR MULTIMODAL PLAN STANDPOINT AND WITH DEVELOPMENT IN METRO CENTER.
THE LINE THAT YOU'RE SH REFERENCING AND I'LL REFERENCE FOR THE COMMISSION, UM, IS NOT IDENTIFIED IN THAT MOBILITY NETWORK AS A PUBLIC STREET.
UM, HERE I THINK IT IS SHOWN AS SOME TYPE OF CONNECTION OTHER THAN A PUBLIC STREET.
SO, UM, A COUPLE OF THE PLANS SHOW A CONNECTION TO THE EAST ACROSS THE PROPERTY, THE EAST PROPERTY LINE INTO IS THERE ANY INTENTION OF A STREET CONNECTION THAT KIND OF BREAKS UP THAT BIGGER BLOCK TO THE EAST? I THINK THE, OR SORRY, THE PLAN KIND OF IDENTIFIES THE FUTURE OF WHAT METRO CENTER IS.
SO AS DEVELOPMENT MIGHT OCCUR, SET THAT FRAMEWORK.
SO LIKE THIS SITE AND SURROUNDING SITES, THEY'RE FAIRLY LARGE SITES TO MAKE THEM MORE WALKABLE AND PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR DEVELOPMENT.
ONE MIGHT OR THE PLAN DOES RECOMMEND EXTENDING THAT WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT EVER OCCURS.
MR. WILL, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON MR WAY'S FIRST QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THE ITEM THAT WAS PREPARED FOR US IN OUR PACKET THAT IS TERMED THE LAND USE AND ACTIVATION MAP, WHICH DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT'S SPECIFIC TO BICYCLE NETWORK? THIS ONE? YES.
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SHOWS, AGAIN, THAT ONE AGAIN SHOWS THAT IT KEEPS SHOWING UP AND I JUST WONDER WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THATUM, SO IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE APPLICA, THE APPLICANT'S PLAN, UM, AND THIS COULD, THIS QUESTION COULD PROBABLY BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH THERE, THERE IS A INDICATION THAT THERE'S A CONNECTION TO THE EAST TO THAT PARCEL, AND I JUST WANTED TO, IT'S PROBABLY MORE THE APPLICANT'S QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE INTENT OR NATURE OF THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S REQUIRING OR THAT YOU DESIRE OR IS IT JUST SOMEBODY DREW THE
UM, CHRIS, I'LL START IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON HERE OR ERIC.
I THINK KIM, WE WERE TRYING TO BE TRUE TO YOUR INTENT OF CREATING A STREET GRID AND DOING ALL THE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT BLOCK ORIENTED THINGS.
UM, WE HAD SORT OF ALWAYS, OR YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SHOWING A ROAD THERE.
IT ALSO SHOWED UP IN YOUR REVITALATION REVITALIZATION PLAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A HAPPY ACCIDENT.
AND WE DO HAVE IN THE FUTURE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT BOTH EAST AND WEST.
SHOULD THE CITY WANNA DO THAT OR YOU ALL FIND THAT VALUABLE AS THOSE PROPERTIES REDEVELOP.
I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ANSWERING YOU OR NOT, BUT YOU, YOU'RE, MY QUESTION IS KIND OF TWOFOLD AND YOU ANSWERED IT ABOUT THE BLOCKS AND LOTS KIND OF FUTURE OF THIS AREA.
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THAT JUST AGAIN, GIVES YOU A FRAME, A REFERENCE, BUT THAT LINE THAT YOU'RE SHOWING CONNECTS TO THE DRIVEWAY OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT, DO YOU NEED THAT FOR INGRESS OR EGRESS OR IS NO, THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT FOR THAT.
UM, BUT THAT CONNECTION CAN OCCUR.
I'M GOING TO SWITCH, UM, GEARS HERE.
UM, SO YOU'VE BEEN HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES, UM, AND THE, THE UNIT COUNT HAS NOT CHANGED PRETTY MUCH.
YOU'VE A COUPLE UNITS ARE THERE, SO YOU, YOU'RE KIND OF, YOU'RE STUCK ON A, A DENSITY, UH, THAT STARTED BEFORE ALL OF THE PLANNING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
SO WE NOW HAVE THE COMMUNITY PLAN, AND THIS IS A CERTAIN TYPE OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE THE METRO CENTER PLAN THAT OBVIOUSLY IS TRYING TO REDEFINE DENSITY FOR METRO CENTER.
UM, YOU'VE CHOSEN TO DISREGARD BOTH OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO THINK ABOUT DENSITY HERE.
AND I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK ON THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT PARKING GARAGES.
I DON'T WANT TO GO SPECIFICALLY TO THERE, BUT IF YOU COULD INCREASE DENSITY HERE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS, IT, IT CHANGES YOUR KIND OF YOUR WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, RIGHT? OR DOES IT, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS COULD INCREASED DENSITY, UM, MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT MORE PALATABLE ECONOMICALLY, UM, FOR YOU AND, AND THAT, AND THAT WOULD LEAD LIKE, OH YEAH, BUT WE'RE GONNA NEED STRUCTURED PARKING TO SUPPORT MORE DENSITY.
SO THEN IT'S THEN IF YOU, IF YOU BUILT MORE UNITS, COULD YOU AFFORD TO DO STRUCTURED PARKING AND STILL KEEP IT AT A PRICE POINT THAT FITS WITHIN THE MARKET? UM, THE, TO ANSWER THE LAST PART OF THAT QUESTION IS NO, THE RENTS STILL DON'T SUPPORT THE COST OF THE STRUCTURED PARKING.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY OF LIKE 330 UNITS.
WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
IT'S REALLY, IT'S NOT A MAGIC NUMBER, IT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT WE'RE BEING ABLE TO FIT WITH THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET ON THE SITE.
UM, AND TO INCREASE DENSITY, WE'D NEED TO BE GIVING UP GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE, WHICH WAS KIND OF COUNTER OF WHAT THE, UM, I THINK WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO IN THE METRO REVITALIZATION PLAN.
IT WAS OPEN SPACE FIRST AND THEN MAYBE LESS DENSE IN THIS AREA, MORE DENSE IN THE CENTRAL METRO AREA.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT YEAH, I I WENT BACK AND READ MY COMMENTS FROM THE PAST THREE, I THINK IT WAS THREE MEETINGS, AND YOU'VE HEARD THIS FROM ME BEFORE.
YEAH, THAT DENSITY, DENSITY, DENSITY.
AND NOW WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY PLANNING TOOLS TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT.
I'M ASKING QUESTIONS AND NOT MAKING COMMENTS.
UM, ONE OTHER, JUST A, AGAIN, A SIMPLE QUESTION ABOUT THE PLAN.
UH, THE PREVIOUS PLANS HAD THIS, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILDINGS WRAPPING IN OPEN SPACE AND CREATING KIND OF THAT PRIVATE AMENITY.
AND WE, I TH I KNOW IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING, YOU KNOW, NOT CLOSED OFF, BUT BEING KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN TO PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, SO PEOPLE CAN KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S PERMEABLE, RIGHT? BUT NOW YOU'VE TAKEN HALF OF IT AND YOU'VE MADE IT SURFACE PARKING, SO NOW YOU'VE GONE AWAY FROM CREATING ANY KIND OF AMENITY IN THE CENTER AND YOU'VE
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GOT HALF OF IT, BUT THE OTHER HALF IS A PARKING LOT AND JUST, IS THAT BECAUSE YOU NEEDED TO PICK UP PARKING? YEAH, IF, CHRIS, YOU'RE PLAYING GAMES WITH ME ON THE PLAN UP HERE.UM, I THINK A COUPLE THINGS HERE.
UM, THE LOCATION OF THE STREETS, SPECIFICALLY THE, THE, THE WESTERN NORTH SOUTH STREET ALONG WITH, UM, THE STREET WIDTH OF THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR FROM BLAZER TO METRO CHEWED UP SOME GROUND AND PERIOD.
WE ALSO HAVE A GOAL, KIM, TO, TO HAVE AS FEW SORT OF MULTI DEPTH PARKING TRAYS ON THIS SITE.
SO WE TRIED TO KEEP IT TO 60 FOOT PARKING BAYS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE KIND OF BREAK THAT RULE A LITTLE BIT ON THE FAR WEST, BUT I OR EAST.
BUT I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE GIVEN THE DIAGRAM THAT MAKES SOME SENSE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE APPLICANT'S INTENT, ERIC SPEAK UP, BUT THE SRE CORRIDOR PARK THAT IS A FOUR ACRE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE COMPONENT CONNECTED TO A PRIMARY PUBLIC STREET THAT BRIDGES BLAZER AND METRO.
AND SO IF YOU SORT OF THINK ABOUT A HIERARCHY OF PARKS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY PARKS AND SECONDARY PARKS AND COURT.
AND SO IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARK THAT SURROUND OR THE BUILDINGS THAT SURROUND OUR POOL, THAT'S A COURTYARD AND THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE THAT BUILDING'S FRONT ON AND THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIGGER PUBLIC PARK.
SO, I MEAN, NOT SURPRISING YOU IF ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S SORT OF, THAT'S KIND OF ATTITUDE ABOUT IT.
WELL I'M TAKING, YOU KNOW, THE MULTIMODAL TRAIL THAT'S GOING ALONG THE SIDE OF THE STREET NOW TOO, LIKE YOU SAID, IT CHEWED UP A LOT OF, YEAH, THANKS.
YEAH, SO HERE'S, THAT'S HELPFUL HERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS LOTS AND BLOCKS, KIM.
I WAS HERE, WHERE WERE WE TWO WEEKS AGO?
AND SO IT WAS A GREAT POINT AND SORT OF A REAL SIMPLE WAY TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR ALL ATTITUDE IS HERE AND LOTS AND BLOCKS IS A GREAT WAY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, DESCRIBE THAT.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE DID, UM, AND IT WASN'T A BIG SWING, IS WE'VE BUILT WITHIN THE LOTS AND BLOCKS YOU ALL PROVIDED IN SPIRIT.
UM, AND THERE'S SURE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO SKIN THAT CAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE CHALLENGE, GIVEN THE MARKET, GIVEN THE LOCATION, GIVEN THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE RESPONSIVE TO LOTS AND BLOCKS, UM, STREETS AND PARKS AND SORT OF, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND FEEL LIKE COURTYARD AND PARK, UM, ON THIS SITE FEEL APPROPRIATE TO ME.
AND I I'M JUST, AND I'M ALSO GUESSING BUILDING ONE, ONE AND TWO, ARE THOSE DON'T LOOK LIKE THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS THE REST? ARE THEY A DIFFERENT UNIT TYPE? YEAH.
THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT UNIT TYPE.
COULD BE THREE, COULD BE FOUR DEPENDING ON THE UNIT COUNT, HOW IT SHAKES OUT.
I CAN'T EVEN, I CAN'T SEE IT THE FAR, THE TWO, THE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE FAR LEFT.
SO THAT ACTUALLY IS, IT'S ACTUALLY TUCKED UNDER PARKING WITH KIND OF A FLAT AND A TOWN HOME STYLE FEEL ON THAT WESTERN EDGE.
AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE PUTTING THOSE THERE BECAUSE YOU WANT STREET C TO HAVE ARCHITECTURE ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, WHICH CORRECT.
SO THE TRADE OFF OF GETTING RID OF THE SURFACE PARKING LOT AND PUTTING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IS, YEAH, IT'S GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE.
THANK YOU MR. MAY, MR. ALEXANDER, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE AREAS I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT.
ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES I SEE BETWEEN THIS PLAN AND THE OTHER PLAN AND ALSO OUR COMMUNITY PLAN IS WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR, YOU'VE MADE THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR MORE OF A FEATURE AND HIERARCHICALLY IT BECOMES MUCH MORE IMPORTANT IN THE PLAN THAN OUR COMMUNITY PLAN SUGGESTS.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA TREAT THOSE BUILDINGS DIFFERENTLY? BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY PLAN DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ACTIVATING THAT EDGE, BUT THAT EDGE MAY DESERVE ACTIVATION.
SO HOW ARE YOU TREATING THOSE BUILDINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN THE BUILDINGS THAT FACE COS GRAY? YEAH, UM, GREAT QUESTION.
UM, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE SET BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT WITH A, A A BIT MORE LANDSCAPE, NOT IN A SUBURBAN WAY, BUT THEY'RE SORT OF, UM, SCALED APPROPRIATELY TO THE, TO THE STREET WITH WE THINK, UM, THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE GENEROUS.
SO IT'S GOT A MORE BOULEVARD PARKWAY APPEAL TO IT.
IT'S ALSO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE CLUBHOUSE, THE FRONT DOOR OF THE RETAIL AND THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF THAT, NOT UNLIKE COS GRAY, UM, UM, STRETCH.
THOSE ARE ALL, UM, GROUND FLOOR, UM, FRONT DOOR UNITS.
SO, UM, THERE ARE A FEW MOMENTS LIKE THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE RETAIL AND THE UM,
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UM, ACCESS TO THAT COURTYARD, UM, THAT ACTIVATE THAT NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT EDGE IS MORE OF AN URBAN CONDITION VERSUS WHAT'S FACING COS GRAY.SO THAT'S WHAT WHAT LEADS TO THAT QUESTION? YEAH, I I I THINK THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT.
I THINK IT PRIMARY YES, URBAN SURE.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER AREA I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS PUBLIC SPACE.
SO, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURED PUBLIC SPACE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN PARK AND WE SEE THAT AT THE SOUTH END DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATELY SIDED AT THE RETAIL AND KIND OF A GATEWAY LOCATION.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION AT THE NORTH END BESIDES THE LITTLE HUB MOBILITY HUB WHERE YOU HAVE THE TWO PRIMARY ELEMENTS OF CIRCULATION COMING TOGETHER, SOME SORT OF PUBLIC STRUCTURED PUBLIC SPACE THERE? YEAH, I THINK, ERIC, YOU CAN JUMP IN HERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
I WOULD SAY BY AND LARGE, WHAT YOU SEE ON OUR PLANS ARE A SORT OF CONCEPTUAL NOD TO PARK.
AND SO THE IDEA THAT THERE COULD BE SOME MORE STRUCTURED PUBLIC PLAZA OR FEATURE OR MORE ORGANIZED SPACE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
I WOULD SAY GENERALLY THAT'S UNDESIGNED RIGHT NOW.
MR. DESLER, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS, UM, FOR BOTH, BUT FOR STAFF FIRST CHRIS, WHAT CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT RELATIVE TO THEIR, UH, PROPOSED DENSITY AND ESSENTIALLY MAJORITY APARTMENT PROPOSAL HERE? YEP.
SO THE COMMUNITY PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE MIXED USE CENTER PRESCRIBES, USES AND MIXES, AND THEN THE DENSITY IS REGULATED OR INFORMED OR RECOMMENDED MORE BY BUILDING HEIGHT AND FAR.
SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC UNIT OR DENSITY COUNT, SO THE, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, UM, ON THAT MATTER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE UNIT COUNT HAS REALLY CHANGED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSALS.
UM, THE METRO CENTRALIZATION PLAN REALLY WORKS MORE ON, UM, STRATEGIC ACTIVATION, AT LEAST FOR THIS SITE AND THOSE, UH, INTERSECTION BY BLAZER AND THEN CLOSER TO COS GRAY RUN.
UM, IT DOES RECOMMEND MIXED RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS.
AGAIN, THERE WAS A MARKET STUDY DONE, UM, BY THE, BY THE CONSULTANT FOR THE METRO CENTER REVITALIZATION TO THINK ABOUT 5, 10, 15, 20 YEARS WHERE THE MARKET CONDITIONS AND ONE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR FINDINGS WAS THAT THERE IS LIMITED, UM, DEMAND FOR COMMERCIAL IN GREATER DUBLIN AND METRO CENTER.
SO TO SPREAD THAT AROUND THE CITY AND TO SPREAD THAT AROUND METRO CENTER, WE NEED TO USE THAT WISELY.
SO WE SHOULD FOCUS THAT ON AREAS WHERE WE INTEND TO HAVE THE MOST ACTIVATION, UM, AND KIND OF SIGNATURE MOMENTS.
AND I THINK IN METRO CENTER, THAT IS REALLY WHERE THAT WATERWAY PARK IS MORE CLOSER TO WHERE THE INTERLOOP IS, UM, TODAY AND AGAIN, USING THESE OTHER METHODS TO ACTIVATE, UM, DIFFERENT PARTS OF METRO CENTER, INCLUDING, AGAIN, UM, CLUBHOUSES, UM, SHARED COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENTRIES, GYMS, FITNESS CENTERS, CAFES, COMMERCIAL IN SOME PLACES, UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
AND SO JUST TO, TO TAIL ON THAT, I MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THAT THE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AREA.
I'M TAKING OUT THE SMALL RETAIL RIGHT NOW, BUT GENERALLY BEING A RESIDENTIAL ONLY AREA, SO THE REVITALIZATION PLAN DOES RECOMMEND REC MIX RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS, AGAIN, WITH A LARGER METRO CENTER AREA, THE MORE INTENSE USES AND THE MORE ACTIVE MIX USE, VERTICAL MIXING IS RECOMMENDED FOR THAT.
WHAT I'M GONNA PUT UP THE DIAGRAM AGAIN, SORRY.
UM, IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE MY CURSOR MM-HMM
UM, ALONG THIS AREA WHERE THAT IS WHERE THE STORMWATER PONDS ARE INTENDED TO BE REIMAGINED AND RECONFIGURED TO CREATE THIS KIND OF SIGNATURE, UM, PUBLIC SPACE.
WHILE THIS AREA IS KIND OF A CONTRIBUTING PIECE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN, MIXED RESIDENTIAL IS RECOMMENDED HERE AS PART OF THAT, BUT USING THOSE STRATEGIC ACTIVATION AND THOSE ACTIVE EDGES TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL AND NOT A, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE WANT A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, AND AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT.
I KNOW A COUPLE OF US DON'T OF BEING HERE LAST TIME AND PROBABLY ASKING A FEW QUESTIONS, SO I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON THE TOES OF, UH, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAD THE, HAD SOME COMMENTARY LAST TIME.
BUT SO THE, THE, THE CLUBHOUSE, THE, THE, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE POOL, THE CLUBHOUSE, THE MAJORITY OF ALL THOSE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE JUST PRIVATE
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FOR THOSE RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS.AND SO WE HAVE THE ONE RETAIL PIECE, WHICH WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY CERTAIN WHAT WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE, BUT WHAT IS THE, YOU HAVE THE OUTDOOR SEATING AT RETAIL, SO YOU GAVE POTENTIALLY SOME IDEA THAT IT'S GONNA BE, AND YOU'RE NOT SURE YET, AND I TOTALLY GET THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, IT'S AN EXERCISE FACILITY OR SOMETHING THEREOF.
IS IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THERE IS OR YOU'RE THINKING IT COULD BE A RESTAURANT AT THAT AREA WHERE THERE'S OUTDOOR SEATING? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO ONE OF OUR RETAIL BROKERS, WILL ROTH, WHO YOU KNOW, IS LEASING A LOT OF THE STUFF TO THE EAST OF HERE RIGHT NOW OF THIS LOCATION.
AND IN TALKING WITH HIM, HE, AND WE AGREE FRANKLY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESTAURANTS AND THOSE USES ARE BETTER IN THE KIND OF CORE AREA OF THE METRO DISTRICT AND THEN ALONG FRANCE ROAD AND THAT THE MORE SPECIALTY STYLE RETAIL, AND IT COULD BE A COFFEE SHOP, I, WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? IT JUST IS, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT OUT, WE'LL SEE WHO WE GET, UH, BUT WE SEE IT MORE OF AS SPECIALTY USE BACK IN THIS AREA, BUT SOMETHING THAT COULD DRAW PEOPLE BACK THERE AS A DESTINATION.
THE, I'M CURIOUS HERE, I'M GONNA GO OVER MY NOTES OBVIOUSLY, BUT THIS, THE ONE BUILDING THAT IS NEXT TO THE RETENTION POND, AND I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T OUTLINED ALL THE UNITS.
I MEAN, BUT LOOKING, JUST LOOKING AT THAT CONCEPTUALLY, I I MEAN THAT IT FEELS LIKE THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN AND OUT BASED ON HOW THE PARKING IS SET UP.
DO, DO YOU FORESEE THAT COULD, COULD BE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH THAT BUILDING? JEFF, I'LL LET YOU, MAYBE YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT PARKING DISTRIBUTION INSIDE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ON THAT BUILDING'S LOCATION.
WELL, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA BE, I, I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING IF I'M, IF I'M RENTING YEAH, THERE, YEAH.
AND ALL THOSE SPOTS RIGHT OUT FRONT ARE GONNA BE TAKEN, RIGHT? WHERE WHERE AM I GONNA BE? I'M GONNA PARK.
YEAH, NO, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO WE UM, AND CARRIE IN YOUR OFFICE DID THIS FOR US.
WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED IN, IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE DID A BUY BUILDING LIKE PER UNIT PARKING COUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DISTRIBUTED THE PARKING APPROPRIATELY PER LIKE, ON EACH BUILDING TO MAKE SURE WE HAD AT LEAST, I THINK IT'S LIKE 1.4 FOR EACH BUILDING.
UH, WE'RE 1.63 I THINK OVERALL.
UM, SO WE COULD SHOW YOU, UM, THE MATH ON IT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING OF IT CONCEPTUALLY LIKE AN AN ACTUAL REALITY.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE NUMBERING THE SPACES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ASSIGNED SPACES PER UNIT, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, LOOK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS SORT OF OFFSCREEN, IF YOU WILL, LIKE ERIC DESCRIBED, UM, IS A STUDY OF BUILDING BY BUILDING PARKING SPACE BY PARKING SPACE.
DOES IT FEEL LIKE IT'S OVERLOADED OR OVERLOADED IN ANY GIVEN AREA? AND YOU KNOW THAT THIS MAY EMERGE OR EVOLVE A LITTLE BIT OVER TIME, BUT RIGHT NOW WE GENERALLY FEEL LIKE WE HAVE GOOD PARKING DISTRIBUTION BUILDING BY BUILDING.
WE, ONE THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT.
I WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN A SECOND.
I THINK THIS MAY BE FOR THE, UH, TRAFFIC.
UH, CAN YOU PULL UP THE ONE, UM, PICTURE THAT HAS LIKE THE DRIVE LANE AND THEN THE MEDIAN AND THEN THE PARALLEL PARKING PIECE.
AND THIS IS ON, UM, THAT CONNECTOR STREET.
WAS THIS THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED OR THE SECTION FROM THE PLAN? YES.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING I'M NOT NECESSARILY CERTAIN I'M AWARE OF, AND I GUESS YOU COULD HUMOR ME FOR A LITTLE BIT IF I'M SEEING THIS, ARE, IS THERE GONNA BE INTENTION THAT THERE COULD BE DELIVERY TRUCKS OR SEMI-TRUCK DRIVING DOWN THIS BOULEVARD? THERE AREN'T A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL OR I THINK FREIGHT USERS IN THIS AREA.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT A HIGH AMOUNT OF SEMI TYPE TRAFFIC.
OF COURSE, MAYBE DELIVERIES, UM, AMAZON, FEDEX, WHAT YOU MIGHT IMAGINE WOULD USE THESE STREETS AS WELL.
AND, AND I GUESS THIS, AND THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SURE I I, IT FEELS TIGHT ON SOME OF THE LANE DISTANCES HERE IN THAT AREA.
I MEAN, IS THAT AS PART OF THE REVITALIZATIONS PLAN AND COMMUNITY PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS TO
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PARADIGM SHIFT REALLY PRIORITIZE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS IN OTHER MODES OF TRAFFIC OR TRAVEL RATHER.UM, SHRINKING OR REDUCING LANE WIDTH IS ONE OF THOSE STRATEGIES TO HELP ACCOMMODATE THAT TO KIND OF CHANGE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT TO SLOW TRAFFIC.
UM, SO THAT IS A STRATEGY THAT'S USED IN METRO CENTER OR RECOMMENDED IN METRO CENTER.
I MEAN, I, AGAIN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
IF YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING 300 WHATEVER UNITS HERE, YOU'RE GONNA, THERE'S GONNA BE TONS OF DELIVERIES ALL THE TIME.
SO I, I DON'T, AND THIS IS JUST ON THAT, I, I IMAGINE THEY'RE GONNA USE THAT CONNECTOR.
THAT'S THE PRIMARY PATH, REGARDLESS OF WHICH WAY THEY COME IN AND OUT.
UM, I MEAN THE DESIGN IS NICE.
I'M JUST NOT SURE WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT IS IN PLACE.
THERE COULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE.
I MEAN, I COULD SEE THAT STREET GETTING CLOGGED UP, UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF THE CLUBHOUSE HAS ANY KIND OF AMENITIES WHERE THERE'S A DELIVERY REQUIRED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ONE, CAN I JUMP IN CHRIS? YEAH.
IN FUTURE STEPS, UM, WITH A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE WOULD LOOK AT AND REVIEW CIRCULATION AND ACCESS, UM, AND PARKING AND, AND LOADING, UM, PLANS AS WELL AS WITH THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
JUST REAL QUICK ON, ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, THERE'S A FEW THINGS TO CONSIDER.
SO ONE OF THEM IS, UM, NEW TENANT, UM, PARKING.
WHERE DO THEY VISIT THE CLUBHOUSE WITHOUT IT INCONVENIENCING THEMSELVES OR RESIDENTS? UM, MOVE IN, MOVE OUT.
SOMETIMES THOSE ARE BIG ROADWAY TRUCKS, THE SORT OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
AND THEN AMAZON DELIVERY, WHICH TYPICALLY YOU HAVE A PACKAGE DELIVERY ROOM NOW.
SO THOSE ARE THE SORT OF THINGS THAT, UM, WE SORT OF TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, BY PRACTICE IN EVERY PROJECT LIKE THIS.
SO I COULD IMAGINE, LIKE CHRIS IS ALLUDING TO IN FUTURE STEPS, YOU WOULD SEE WHERE THE AMAZON TRUCK PARKS, YOU WOULD SEE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS THAT CONFIRM THAT A ROADWAY TRUCK CAN MAKE HIS WAY THROUGH THE SITE AND THAT THE LANES ARE APPROPRIATELY SIZED.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THE SORT OF BASIC GEOMETRIES OF THE SITE ARE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ON THE MATERIALS.
UM, ARE YOU THINKING THAT EVERY BUILDING IS GONNA HAVE THE EXACT SAME COLOR AND TYPE OF MATERIALS? IS THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL? SO I KNOW WE, OKAY, SO I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST MEETING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS WILL RELATE TO EACH OTHER, BUT THEY WON'T LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND SOME OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CHANGING SOME COLORS, CHANGING IN HEIGHT, RIGHT.
TO KIND OF BREAK IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE A COOKIE CUTTER BUILDING, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU WERE MM-HMM
DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT IS? IS IT, OR IS THAT STILL AN EVALUATION? UH, IT'S STILL AN EVALUATION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH STAFF ON TO MAKE SURE IT'S KIND OF A PART OF THE APPROVED LIST OF MATERIAL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. HARPER COMMISSION ASKED A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS, I THINK GOT MISSED OF MINE OUT OF THE WAY.
UM, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR CHRIS, WHEN YOU SAID THE FUTURE STUDY, UH, SHOWED THAT MAYBE YOU NEED TO FOR BETTER, YOU SAVE THE COMMERCIAL FOR THAT CENTER OF, UM, OF THE METRO PLACE REVITALIZATION, DID THAT SEPARATE, UH, RETAIL VERSUS OFFICE? IS THERE ANY STATEMENT ON OFFICE NEED IN THE AREA? SO THE LAND USE AND ACTIVATION DOES CONTEMPLATE A BASE TYPE OF LAND USE VERSUS OFFICE VERSUS MIXED USE.
AND THEN WITHIN MIXED JUICE, DIFFERENT WAYS OF, UM, CERTAIN SITES NEED TO BE PRESERVED BECAUSE OF VISIBILITY OR LOCATION FOR A COMMERCIAL OFFICE.
HOSPITALITY THINKING ANY FUTURE HOTELS AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN THE GROUND FLOOR BEING ANOTHER LEVEL OF THAT WHERE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE, THOSE ARE PRIMARILY MADE, UM, AGAIN, AROUND THAT WATERWAY PARK.
IT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED IN THE PLAN, UM, OFFICE ALONG THE TWO 70 FRONTAGE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ALONG FRANCE AND BLAZER PARKWAY.
SO NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, 'CAUSE I THINK THIS HAS BEEN ASKED TO A COUPLE WAYS, BUT REALLY THE THOUGHT IS OFFICE ON THE OUTSIDE ON THE TWO 70 SIDE RETAIL INSIDE THE CORE OF METRO PLACE.
AND THEN THIS WOULD BE EXPECTED TO BE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL, IF NOT ALL.
THAT'S WHAT'S RECOMMENDED IN THE PLAN.
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UH, WE HAVE AN HOUR REPORT THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY 332 PER PROPOSED UNITS AT AN AVERAGE OF
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21 UNITS PER ACRE.WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO IN FAR? THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THERE IS A BILL BUILDING FOOTPRINT, UM, MATHEMATICAL EQUATION AND STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IS NOT AT THAT LEVEL OF REVIEW.
YEAH, TIM, WAS IT AT, IT WAS CLOSE TO ONE, I THINK RIGHT? SHY ONE.
UM, FOR FUTURE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES CALL OUT FAR AND THEY DO NOT CALL OUT DENSITY.
CAN WE HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN FUTURE STAFF REPORTS, PLEASE? YES.
AND AS ONE OF THE RE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE REVITALIZATION PLAN IS TO LOOK INTO DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES AS WELL.
UM, WHAT WE REQUIRE ALSO MIGHT BE AS PART OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING FOR BOTH STAFF AND THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW AT THOSE APPROPRIATE STAGES.
THANK YOU MR. WELL, UH, ONE QUESTION SPECIFIC TO, SO IN OUR PACKET, THE, THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION ON METRO PLACE, PAGE 80, WE TALK ABOUT THE METRO BIKE LOOP.
UH, WE DO TALK ABOUT SHARED USE LAYOUT THAT IT IS SUPPORTING MOSTLY BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION, BUT HAS, UM, SECONDARY USE OF PEDESTRIAN IN OUR DOCUMENTATION.
THAT'S, UM, DEPICTED AS KIND OF A STRAIGHT LINE IS THAT THE VISION FOR THE MOBILITY STREET NETWORK, BIKE PATH NETWORK TO BE THOSE STRAIGHT LINES ON THE CORRIDOR AREAS.
SO THE PLAN PROVIDES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIKE AND PED FACILITIES.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE LEGEND HERE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THIS SCREEN.
UM, SO THE BIKE, THE METRO BIKE LOOP IS INTENDED TO BE KIND OF A CIRCUIT THROUGHOUT METRO CENTER AND A SIGNATURE FEATURE OF THAT.
AND THE, OR THE INTENT IS THAT AS IT MOVES THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT SPACES THAT IT HAS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.
SO THIS AREA, IT'S IN THE COS GRAY RUN, SO IT'S PART OF THAT MORE NATURALIZED NATURE PLAY EXPERIENCE AS IT WOULD MOVE AROUND MORE TO THAT WATERWAY PARK.
AND IN THE INNER LOOP IT HAS A MORE ACTIVE AND ENGAGED AND EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, UM, SPECIFIC ALIGNMENTS OR ROUTES FOR THAT ARE NOT RECOMMENDED.
THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IS NOT RECOMMENDED IN THE PLAN.
UM, ONE WOULD EXPECT WITH DEVELOPMENT TO COME WITH AS DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED WITH EACH OF THOSE PROPOSALS.
UH, AND THEN ONE QUESTION FOR THE ONE, TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE YOUR PLAN CURRENTLY DRAWN ON BLAZER PARKWAY, YOU HAVE THE DOG PARK AND YOU HAVE THE KIND OF BOUTIQUE SPECIALTY RETAIL AREA.
WHAT IS YOUR ENVISION FOR FOUR SEASON ACTIVATION ALONG BLAZER PARKWAY WITH THOSE PARTICULAR TWO USES? YOU WANNA TRY TO TAKE IT? WELL, YEAH, I, GREAT QUESTION.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE DOG PARK GETS FOUR SEASON USE AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A DOG PARK OUT IN BLAZER PARKWAY WAS GONNA REQUIRE THAT WE DESIGN IT IN A NICE WAY SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ACTIVE AND ATTRACTIVE SPACE.
UM, AS FOR THE RETAIL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE TRANSPARENT, UM, UM, RETAIL SPACE OFF OF BLAZER SPACE THAT YOU CAN SEE INTO THAT'S ATTRACTIVE.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW THE RETAILER YET, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU A GREAT ANSWER ON WHAT FOUR SEASON LOOKS LIKE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I WOULD START WITH THAT QUESTION.
UH, AND THEN ONE QUESTION YOU HAD IN YOUR KIND OF ASPIRATIONAL IMAGES IN THE PACKET, YOU HAD YEAGER SQUARE CALLED OUT, UH, THAT, AND AND I DON'T WANNA GO DOWN TO ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS AND THAT SORT OF THING, HOWEVER, UM, MR. WAY ASKED ABOUT THOSE TWO, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT NOMENCLATURE AND OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENT KIND OF LOOK TO THEM ON THE LOTS AND BLOCKS KIND KIND OF LOOK.
UH, THEY'RE REMINISCENT VERY MUCH OF OUR OWN CALLWELL.
THE ARCHITECTURE IS, IS YOUR ENVISION THAT THAT BUILDING TYPE BE IN OUR ONE AND TWO BLOCKS AND THEREFORE HAVE BACKSIDE GARAGES? YEAH, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT I MEANT BY THE TUCK UNDER PARKING.
SO LIKE WE GO AROUND, YOU PULL UNDERNEATH AND IT'D BE A TOWN HOME STYLE APARTMENT OR MAYBE A FLATS WITH, OR TWO FLATS ABOVE THE GARAGE.
ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, WE A WE INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND WE DO REQUEST THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
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IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT THOUGH, MS. ROUSH? WE DID GET A PAPER COMMENT, BUT THAT WAS ON THE OTHER APPLICATION.HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL HERE THAT WE NEED TO PAUSE TO REVIEW? OKAY, THANK YOU.
FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UH, NOW ENTERS COMMISSION DELIBERATION AND I'M GONNA FOLLOW THE SAME ORDER THAT WE DID QUESTIONS.
SO MR. CHINNOCK, CAN YOU START US OFF? OKAY.
UM, I THINK AGAIN, I THINK, UH, REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF, OBVIOUSLY YOU HEARD OUR, HEARD OUR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, PAST, PAST COMMENTS AND YOU'RE DEFINITELY REACTING TO THEM.
UM, I, I THINK WHEN WE'VE, WE'VE ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, A LOT, I THINK A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS ARE, ARE BRINGING UP SOME ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES YOU HAVE.
GENERALLY I'M IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
MY CONCERN IS JUST, AGAIN, STUFF THAT'S BEEN ITERATED ALREADY TONIGHT, BUT I MEAN, AT THE SOUTH END, IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE METRO PLACE.
DEVELOPMENT'S A REALLY MAJOR, MAJOR INITIATIVE, A REALLY BIG DEAL.
SO I HATE TO USE THE WORDS LIKE SPECIAL, BUT THIS, THIS AREA I THINK NEEDS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVATION, A LITTLE MORE LIFE.
AND I TALKED ABOUT THE ORGANIC NATURE OF THE BUILDINGS, HOW IT FLOWS.
IT'S KIND OF RIGID, IT'S KIND OF, AND I, AND I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENT TO, TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENT LOOKS OF THE BUILDINGS AND GETTING, I KNOW WE'LL GET THERE, BUT JUST TO CONSIDER HOW THE BUILDING MASS AND MASSING WORKS, HOW IT ALL KIND OF, AGAIN, WE USE WORDS LIKE ACTIVATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
'CAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THIS SPACE.
I, I THINK WE'RE MISSING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT NOW HERE TODAY.
SO THAT'S MY COMMENT IS JUST TO REALLY CONSIDER HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, STILL, STILL DO WHAT'S INTENDED, BUT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIAL.
WE MENTIONED, I MENTIONED WORDS LIKE ORGANIC, MAKE IT KIND OF FLOW A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND KIND OF TRANSITION BETTER INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING AT, AT METRO.
UM, AND I, AND I'D ALSO SAY SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE INSPIRATION YOU GUYS BROUGHT IN HERE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BY THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SHOWING ONE TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE, BUT THEN YOU'RE SHOWING INSPIRATION FROM OTHER ARCHITECTURE.
SO I, I JUST, I'D WANNA REALLY AGAIN, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BUILDING MASSING IS LIKE AND HOW THE, HOW THAT ALL KIND OF INTERACTS TOGETHER, WHICH I KNOW WE'LL GET THERE, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AS WE KIND OF MO MOVE FORWARD HERE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT USE, AND I THINK, YES, THIS IS GONNA BE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT CAME UP TOWARDS THE END THAT, OH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME TOWN HOMES OVER HERE.
THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK ALL THAT STUFF'S GREAT.
SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DEFINE MIXED USE.
IT COULD BE MIXED RESIDENTIAL, DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL, DIFFERENT AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT MAKE THIS ATTRACTIVE.
WE, WE WANT TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO WANNA LIVE HERE BECAUSE IT ONLY HELPS US, AGAIN, ACTIVATE METRO.
SO I THINK ANYTHING YOU GUYS CAN DO TO FULLY ARTICULATE WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S IMAGES OF THE GYMS AND, AND SOME OF THAT STUFF, WHICH WILL INEVITABLY HAPPEN.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND, REALLY YOUR VISION FOR IT.
AND LASTLY, I'LL GO BACK TO THE PARKING.
UM, I THINK WE BROUGHT UP SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING.
I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, I I KNOW GARAGES ARE OFF.
SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE MAYBE NOT ON THE TABLE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE, THE BIG PARKING FIELD BEHIND THE BUILDING.
AND THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY KIND OF CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ABOUT THE PARKING PEDESTRIAN INTERACTION.
UM, AND JUST THE, JUST THE OVERALL, AGAIN, FLOW OF THE SITE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.
I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, GOOD CONVERSATION TONIGHT AND EACH WAY WE KIND OF KEEP MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BRING TOGETHER WITH THE ROAD AND COMING THROUGH AND ALL THE STREETS AND SO FORTH, UM, I THINK THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE OTHER, BUT WHAT'S GONNA GET US IS THE PARKING AND HOW, HOW ALL THAT'S GOING TO MANEUVER THROUGH.
SO, I MEAN, THE FIRST SITTING HERE, I I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE UNDERGROUND PARKING OR I LOVE THE IDEA ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO KIND OF BLEND 'EM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, THE STREET PARKING JUST FEELS FULL AND IT WON'T HAVE THAT GOING DOWN THE STREET AND KIND OF GETTING YOUR WAY DOWN THERE.
IT'S GONNA FEEL A LITTLE WONKY TO ME.
AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME FOR US TO KIND OF FEEL THAT THROUGH.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THAT CON THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION.
'CAUSE UM, THEY'RE COMING OUT IN DUBLIN TO SAY, HEY, FORGET ABOUT YOUR CAR.
AND THIS IS THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR THAT.
SO, SO THE, EVERYBODY LOOKING AT THE CARS IS GONNA REALLY FEEL, UM, HEAVY IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, OPEN SPACE, UM, MAKING THE OPEN SPACE PUR PURPOSEFUL.
I THINK YOU'RE IN THAT, THAT DIRECTION OF THAT WITH THE BIKING AND THE PRIVATE AMENITIES.
AND, UM, BUT THEN, AND THEN THE, HOW YOU'RE GONNA FIT IN AND THE DOG PARK.
BUT THINK ABOUT LIKE, THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO HIDE.
LIKE PEOPLE PLAY BASKETBALL, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKE TO, THEY LIKE TO KIND OF FIND A, A LITTLE NOOK THAT NO ONE ELSE KNOWS WHERE THAT IS, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY KIND OF MEET UP IN THAT AREA.
THE ART, KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT.
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THINK YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OF THAT AND, AND MAKING THAT CONNECT TO, TO ALL OF METRO.AND ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON A PATH TO FIND THINGS AND YOU END UP ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT WAY.
UM, NUMBER THREE WAS LIKE THE BUILDING TYPES.
AND AGAIN, I THINK, UM, JUST SO YOU HAVE THINGS MIXED UP IN MY MIND, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE, UM, AT THE OUTDOOR SEATING, THAT IT REALLY HAS A PURPOSEFUL FIT, LIKE TO GATHER PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO GO TO THE POOL, BUT THEY ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO COME TO THIS GATHERING SPOT.
AND SO, UM, IT MAY BE A PLACE, UH, LIKE THEY DON'T WANNA REST FROM GOING ON A LONG BIKE RIDE.
UH, WHERE IS THAT GOING TO BE? AND, AND, AND TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS THERE.
SO I HOPE TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE ROOF A LITTLE BIT, UH, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING IS IMPORTANT AND WORKING TOGETHER AND KEEPING, I'M SO IMPRESSED THAT YOU ALL ARE CONNECTING WITH, UM, METRO AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTED IN THAT AREA.
KEEP THAT GOING WITH THE, WITH THE CITY AS WELL TOO.
WELL, I NEED TO BE CONSISTENT, RIGHT? THIS IS MY FOURTH COMMENTS ON THE PROJECT.
SO I, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA VARY FROM MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND THE METRO CENTER PLAN HAVE REALLY KIND OF VALIDATED THAT THIS SITE SHOULD BE DENSER THAN WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE DENS, THERE'S DENSITIES TALKED ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND SO, UM, MY, MY EXPECTATION WAS THAT YOU WOULD, THERE WOULD BE PODIUM BUILDINGS HERE WITH PARKING UNDER AND RESIDENTIAL ABOVE.
UM, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND CHALLENGES ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT IN OUR REMIT TO, TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT TO COME UP WITH THE BEST PLAN.
SO TO ME, A PLAN LIKE THAT WOULD BE REALLY ADDRESSING THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND ALL THE OTHER PLANS THAT KIND OF ARE SUPPORTING THIS AREA.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I COULD ALSO SEE AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
AND I THINK THE, THE REALLY IMPORTANT EDGES HERE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE THE, THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR AND THEN THE FRONTAGE ONTO COSGRAVE PARK.
I COULD SEE WHERE THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD BE TALLER AND MORE, AND LOOK MORE DENSE.
SO HERE'S, THIS IS THE SMOKESCREEN APPROACH IS MAKE THE, THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR AND THE CAUSE GRAY EDGE LOOK DENSE.
AND SO MAYBE THERE'S SIX STORIES AND THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE LOWER.
AND SO YOU GET THIS VERY, KIND OF THIS HIGHER DENSITY EDGE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MOVING THROUGH.
AND ALSO THAT FRAMES THE EDGE OF THE PARK.
UM, I ALSO THINK THE BUILDINGS COULD BE BROUGHT CLOSER TOGETHER, THE ENDS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, HEAD END PARKING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CREATING A SETBACK THAT AGAIN, IS MORE SUBURBAN THAN URBAN.
I'M TRYING TO CREATE THAT MORE URBAN DENSE FEEL.
UM, AND THEN I, INSTEAD OF THE DOG PARK, I WOULD MAKE THAT A BIGGER BUILDING.
I DON'T WANNA CALL IT RETAIL, BECAUSE RETAIL IS, WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.
BUT IF THERE WAS A BUILDING THAT WAS BASICALLY A BIGGER BUILDING, FRONTING BLAZER PARKWAY IS KIND OF THE GATEWAY BUILDING.
AND YOU'VE GOT A GREEN SPACE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT, WHICH COULD BECOME A SCULPTURE PARK OR SOMETHING, SEE, OF THIS REALLY DRAMATIC GATEWAY.
YOU HAVE THIS WONDERFUL BOULEVARD THAT CUTS THROUGH AND CONNECTS UP TO METRO CENTER, AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS REALLY NICE, UM, EDGE OF UNITS LOOKING OVER THE PARK.
THAT TO ME WOULD BE, UM, AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WE COULD CONSIDER.
BUT THE ARCHITECTURE'S GOTTA BE SPECTACULAR.
THE STREETSCAPE GOTTA BE SPECTACULAR.
WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, SCREEN OUT THE PARKING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER THAT GIVES YOU, UM, THE, THE ILLUSION OF A DENSER DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH A DIFFERENT PARKING SOLUTION.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S ROOM TO EXPLORE BOTH OF THOSE AND COME BACK TO US WITH WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK, HOW YOU COULD ACHIEVE BOTH OF THOSE.
I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS PRESENTED THIS EVENING.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT ITEMS. F FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE THE FORMALITY OF THE PLAN BECAUSE WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THE BOULEVARD, NOW THERE'S HIERARCHY IN THE PLAN, WHICH I DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS IN THE EARLIER PLAN.
UM, THERE'S A HIERARCHY OF THAT STREET NETWORK.
I THINK THE BLAZER T CONNECTION TO THE WEST, AS WELL AS THE CONNECTION TO THE SOUTH OF THAT ONE ROAD PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TOO FOR, TO CARVE OUT ANOTHER BLOCK IN A FUTURE TIME AND DEVELOP THAT IN A SIMILAR WAY, WHICH I THINK IS POSITIVE.
SO I SUPPORT THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU'VE ESTABLISHED.
UM, THE OPEN SPACE I SUPPORT WITH THE CAVEAT ALONG THAT BOULEVARD YOU HAVE ANCHORING
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AT ONE PUBLIC SPACE.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE NORTH END.
PARTICULARLY YOUR SITE IDENTIFIES A FEATURE BUILDING THERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST A BUILDING TENDS TO BE MORE PRIVATE USE.
IF YOU HAVE A, A PUBLIC SPACE THAT CAN BE USED, THEN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY COULD BENEFIT FROM IT.
I ALSO, HERE AGAIN, I THINK THIS PLAN, I SEE IT AS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER OTHER ONE BECAUSE THERE'S A HIERARCHY IN THE PUBLIC SPACE TOO.
NOW THAT POOL IS A SEMI-PUBLIC SPACE, SO IT'S JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE.
AND THEN YOU'RE PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE FRONT OF THE UNITS TO HAVE PRIVATE GREEN SPACES FOR THE UNITS.
SO THERE'S A MUCH GREATER HIERARCHY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SPACE NETWORK, WHICH I, WHICH I THINK IS, IS POSITIVE AS WELL.
UM, I HAD A SIMILAR COMMENT TO KIM.
IT'S A SIMILAR THINKING IN THAT IF YOU COULD DIFFERENTIATE, AND THIS GOES BACK TO MY COMMENT BEFORE ABOUT THE TWO EDGES, IF YOU COULD DIFFERENTIATE THOSE EDGES MORE, UM, WHETHER IT'S BUILDING HEIGHTS AND SO IS THE WALL ALONG COS GRAVE, ALMOST LIKE CENTRAL PARK WHERE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE TALL AND CREATE A WALL AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AMENITY THERE.
AND THE BUILDINGS ON THE BOULEVARD MAY HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT CHARACTER.
UM, UH, BUT THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GREATER DENSITY, BUT ALSO DIFFERENTIATE THESE, THOSE TWO ROUTES IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, UM, AND, AND I'M OKAY WITH THE WAY MIXED USE HAS BEEN DEFINED HERE.
MORE OF THE OFFICE USE WE HAVE AND IS CONSIDERED TO BE A PART OF ADJACENT PARCELS.
AND THIS BEING PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF THAT, AND TO ME, THAT, THAT MAKES, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
MR. DESLER, I CERTAINLY THINK WHAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED, AGAIN WITHOUT HAVING THE, UM, BEEN BEING HERE.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A, A BETTER PROPOSAL THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE.
THAT SAID, I SHARE COMMENTS OF, OF ALL MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, ESPECIALLY REGARDING THAT, UH, THE BLAZER CONNECTION, I THINK I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UH, THE, THE DOG PARK, I FEEL IS MISPLACED.
IF THERE IS A DOG PARK, IT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE IN THE, IN THE FRONT OF THE, THE ACTIVATION AREA.
UH, AND AGAIN, THE RETAIL PIECE, I'M JUST CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AND WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE AND HOW THAT'S GONNA INTERPLAY ON THAT FRONTAGE.
UM, BUT THE, THE STREET ASPECT, UH, THE BOULEVARD AND, YOU KNOW, I DID MENTION SOME CONCERNS.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S MORE, PROBABLY MORE FOR THE CITY THAN YOU.
I DO LIKE THE BOULEVARD, HOW IT'S SET UP.
I THINK THAT THAT OPENS IT UP.
UH, SO MO MOBILITY STANDPOINT, I'M SUPPORTIVE, BUT I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK RELATIVE TO THE OPEN SPACE.
I FEEL LIKE THAT THE, THE PARKING LOT IN THE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE, AND I KNOW THAT WE WANT IT TO BE HIDDEN IN HOWEVER YOU'RE GONNA MAYBE POTENTIALLY INCREASE DENSITY OR HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS.
I FEEL THAT THAT SOMEHOW NEEDS TO BE INCORPORATED BETTER WITH AN INTERNAL GREEN SPACE, POTENTIALLY AS YOU ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY HAD IT ORIGINALLY.
BUT WITH THE POOL THERE, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TOGETHER.
IT KIND OF BLOCKS OFF EVERYTHING WHERE IT'S PRIVATE JUST FOR THOSE, UH, THOSE INDIVIDUALS RENTING THE APARTMENTS OR THE TOWN HOMES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, AGAIN, I, I, I SHARE THE SAME, UH, POSITIONS.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME PARTICULARS RELATIVE TO THE BUILDINGS, HOW THEY'RE GONNA LOOK, THE ARCHITECTURE, AND JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS JUST, IT'S NOT, UH, IN DEPTH ENOUGH FOR US TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A FULL FLEDGED DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ASPECT.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND, AND, AND PRESENTING.
YEAH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I, UH, I, ANOTHER ONE WHO WASN'T ON THE EARLIER ITERATION OF THE COMMISSION, UH, BUT READING THROUGH THE COMMENTS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF REACTING TO THEM, OF TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE CITY'S LOOKING FOR AND THAT COMMISSION'S LOOKING FOR.
SO, UM, I'M ALSO GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, UH, THE MOBILITY F FRAMEWORK LOOKS LIKE IT ALIGNS WELL WITH, UH, THAT REVITALIZATION PLAN.
UM, THE OPEN SPACE, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE KIND OF THROWN OUT AS OPTIONS.
I THINK, UH, SOME OF THE MATERIALS REFERENCED EXERCISE NODES OR MINI GARDENS, I THINK THOSE, ANY LITTLE THING LIKE THAT CAN ADD INTEREST TO THAT BOULEVARD INTO THE, UH, TERTIARY SPACES.
UM, I DO WANT TO SEE THE KIND OF POTENTIAL FUTURE WALKWAY THROUGH THAT COS GRAY DITCH AREA TO BE ACTIVATED.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT, THAT'S FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH BECAUSE, UH, THAT REALLY IS WHAT, UH, SUPPORTS THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS ON THIS.
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IF THAT CAN BE CONNECTED, IT LOOKS LIKE THROUGH A BIKE FRAME, DOWN THROUGH SMALL, UH, SMILEY PARK, SMILEY PARK, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WOULD, UH, CREATE A NICE UNINTERRUPTED OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT URBAN NATURE FEEL.UM, SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AS WELL, AS LONG AS YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE THAT, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WILL.
AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UH, ARTWORK AS WELL TO ACTIVATE THAT BOULEVARD IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU THERE.
UM, AND, UH, AND YEAH, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK.
I THINK, UH, JASON BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT WITH THE, UM, THAT, THAT EXTRA BUILDING DOWN THERE, IT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE MOST PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THAT BUILDING, ARE GONNA HAVE A LONG WALK TO THEIR CAR.
UM, SO IT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER THAT MAY, UH, RESOLVE ITSELF AS YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS OF THE COMMISSION.
SO, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, LOOKS AT APPLICATIONS WITH BOTH OBJECTIVITY AND SUBJECTIVITY, RIGHT? SO OBJECTIVITY, WE HAVE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX, LIKE THE COMMUNITY PLAN, LIKE THE METRO PLACE REVITALIZATION PLAN, AND OF COURSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES.
AND THOSE ARE OBJECTIVE VALUES.
AND SO, HENCE MY QUESTION ABOUT THE FAR SUBJECTIVE, RIGHT? IF THE PLAN SAYS, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ONE AND A HALF.
IS IT ONE AND A HALF TO THREE? YEAH, ONE AND A HALF TO THREE IN THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, THAT THEN THAT'S AN OBJECTIVE METRIC, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE WEIGH THINGS AGAINST.
UM, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE OBJECTIVE METRICS THAT I DON'T SEE BEING MET BY THIS PARTICULAR PLAN.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE, UH, IF WE LOOK AT WHY METRO PLACE IS BEING REVITALIZED, A LOT OF IT IS SEAS OF PARKING.
AND WHAT I SEE ON THIS PLAN IS SEAS OF PARKING.
AND SO I FEAR THAT WE WILL END UP IN THE SAME PLACE.
FAST FORWARD A LITTLE WHILE ON, ON, UH, AS THE AREA CONTINUES TO DEVELOP, PARKING LOTS DON'T LOOK GOOD THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT ATTRACTIVE FEATURES.
WE CAN TRY TO DRESS 'EM UP, BUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG DOESN'T MAKE A PARKING LOT A A WONDERFUL PLACE TO GO.
AND I THINK YOU FEEL THAT FROM A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS ABOUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURED PARKING, UNDERGROUND PARKING, INTEGRATED PARKING, ACTUAL GARAGES, BACKSIDE LOADED, UM, THIS IS AND COULD BE, UH, A CATALYST FOR DEVELOPMENT IN METRO PLACE, WHICH BENEFITS EVERYBODY.
IT BENEFITS YOU, IT BENEFITS THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN THE METRO PLACE REVITALIZATION PLAN.
AND IT CERTAINLY BENEFITS THE CITY AND ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE ITEMS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION AND WE HAVE REALLY GOOD REASONS FOR VIOLATING ANY OF THOSE OBJECTIVE METRICS THAT TOOK YEARS OF PLANNING AND TIME FROM STAFF AND YOURSELF.
YOU WERE PART OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
UH, UH, I SEE THE PARKING AS A CHALLENGE.
I ALSO SEE THE BLAZER PARKWAY, THE RETAIL DOG PARK.
I, I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD FROM US MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE MIXED USE, AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE CITY DOESN'T PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS, RIGHT? SO IT, IF YOU ARE BUILDING RESIDENTIAL IN AN AREA THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE, THEN WELL, WHAT IF EVERYBODY COMES AND SAYS, HEY, WE WANT RESIDENTIAL, THEN THE LAST GUY TO THE TABLE, WE SAY, OH, SORRY FOR YOU.
EVERYBODY ELSE TOOK YOUR TURN.
AND SO WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SUBJECTIVELY THAT WE ARE WEIGHING THOSE PROPORTIONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
UH, BUT I WILL HIGHLIGHT, THE FIRST TIME YOU HEARD FROM US, IT WAS ALMOST A RESIDENTIAL NO-GO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT VIEW CORRIDOR, DUBLIN DOES NOT BUILD RESIDENTIAL ALONG TWO 70.
AND SO YOU'RE HEARING WE'RE OKAY WITH RESIDENTIAL AND YOU'RE HEARING DENSITY'S, OKAY.
A LOT OF DEVELOPERS NEVER HEAR THAT, HEY, GO LOWER, GO LOWER.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT MORE OPEN SPACE, WE WANT MORE GREEN SPACE.
WE WANT A BALANCE, WE WANT DENSITY.
WE KNOW WE, WE WANT DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL TYPES.
I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE A WAY TO GO.
I DO WANNA COMPLIMENT THE, THE COS GRAY CORRIDOR.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PARCEL THAT HAS A NATURAL FEATURE THAT THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT, RIGHT? UNLESS YOU WANNA GO ARMY CORPS AND ALL, ALL THAT ROUTE, IT'S THE REALITY.
BUT THE WAY THAT YOU'VE TREATED THAT, LOOKING AT THE BUILDING BLOCKS, THOSE, THE METRO PLACE PLANS SPECIFICALLY,
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YOU'VE INCORPORATED THAT VERY WELL.AND I THINK THAT THE, THE OVERALL PROJECT IS BETTER FOR IT.
BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO, UH, MAKING SURE THAT MOBILITY, OPEN SPACE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK I TOUCHED ON ANY, ON MY PARTICULAR ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALRIGHT, UH, DO YOU SEEK ANY CLARIFICATION FROM THE COMMISSION SEEING A HEAD SHAKE? UM, THE, UH, PLAN, PROBABLY THE METRO REVITALIZATION PLAN.
UH, DO HAVE THE ONE FOR MARS SLIDE THAT WAS, THAT SHOWED ALL THE BUILDINGS ON IT.
AND THEN WHILE HE WAS PULLING THAT UP, CHRIS, I, I GUESS I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE, LIKE, THE DENSITY FROM AN FAR STANDPOINT HAD NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED YET.
I KNOW, I, I, I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMUNITY PLAN.
IT WAS, WOULD YOU SAY IT WAS ONE AND A HALF TO THREE? I WAS ALSO UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE STILL WORKING ON, UM, THROUGH THEIR METRO STUDY, CHRISTIE, AND, AND JUST TO CALL OUT, THAT'S FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES MM-HMM
WHICH, WHICH ARE COMPLIMENTARY.
AND THOSE SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THOSE FA NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT SPECIFICALLY WAS FOR THIS AREA.
SO IT, IT'S HELPFUL TO, TO CLARIFY THAT.
SO, AND A LOT OF THIS, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE, SEAS OF PARKING AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I, YOU KNOW, WE AGAIN, ARE REACTING A LOT TO THIS REVITALIZATION PLAN.
AND YOU'LL SEE LIKE THE PARKING LOT LOCATIONS AND WHERE WE HAVE THEM ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THIS CURRENT PLAN.
I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT LESS IN THAT CENTER AREA.
IF WE, IF YOU WANNA, CHRIS, IF YOU WANNA GO BACK TO OUR, OUR PLAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS, WHETHER YOU PERCEIVED THE SEA OF PARKING.
I THINK KIM, AT THE END OF OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR PARKING LAYOUT.
I THINK THE PARKING WAS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU DID NOT FEEL LIKE THIS WAS A SEA OF PARKING AND THAT WE FELT LIKE THAT WE HAD ADDRESSED PARKING.
I, I DON'T THINK I USED THE TERM SEE PARKING.
I THINK THAT WAS THE CHAIR'S COMMENT.
I JUST SAID, I WAS JUST SAYING I WOULD SUPPORT MORE PARKING IN PODIUMS THAN TO GET THE DENSITY.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE, IN MY ALTERNATIVE
I MEANT, I MEANT AT OUR LAST MEETING, NOT THIS MEETING.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY NOTES AGAIN.
AND, UM, BUT AGAIN, LIKE, SO REGARDLESS OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO REACT TO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY, BY THE CITY AND THE STAFF, UM, FOR THEIR METRO REVITALIZATION PLAN WITH THEIR STREET GRID AND, AND KIND OF WHERE THEY THOUGHT, UM, THE PARKING SHOULD BE LOCATED.
SO I, I GUESS JUST TO CLARIFY, I, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, UM, OBVIOUSLY, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S SUPPORTIVE OF, IN GENERAL OUR PLAN BEFORE WE TAKE THE NEXT STEP.
BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG, THERE IS A BIG SPEND, UM, ON OUR PART TO GO TO THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I, I HEAR THE PODIUM PARKING KEEP COMING UP.
WE, YOU KNOW, THE RENTS DON'T SUPPORT PODIUM PARKING.
THE SIX STORY BUILDING WOULD BE A PODIUM PARKING BUILDING.
UM, I DO UNDERSTAND AND AND AGREE WITH HAVING THE TALLER BUILDINGS ALONG THAT CONNECTOR.
I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DONE OUR STUDIES, I THINK THE CITY'S DONE THEIR STUDIES AS FAR AS RENTS IN THIS AREA JUST DON'T SUPPORT THE STRUCTURED PARKING.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, WE, WE BRIDGE THIS GAP.
UH, 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE DO KEEP HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DECIDE HERE IF WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOESN'T GET INTO ECONOMICS, RIGHT? SO WE, WE HAVE TOOLBOX, CITY COUNCIL OF COURSE HAS DIFFERENT PARAMETERS, UH, BUT PLANNING AND ZONING, WE, WE DON'T CONSIDER ECONOMIC VIABILITY AS PART OF OUR OBJECTIVE NOR SUBJECTIVE CRITERIA.
SO CHRIS, MAYBE A, A CLARIFYING QUESTION FROM YOU WAS, WAS STRUCTURED PARKING SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF CALLED OUT FOR, FOR THIS AREA AND THE METRO PLAN? I MEAN, I SEE IT KIND OF OFF TO THE, ON THE OTHER PARCEL, CLOSER TO THE OFFICE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE GONNA BE PULL UP OTHER PAGE FROM THE REVITALIZATION PLAN.
SO JUST TO ORIENT THE COMMISSION, WEST BRIDGE STREET, UM, FRANCE INTERSECTION IS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE TWO 70 IS KIND OF TOWARDS THE TOP.
THE APPLICANT'S SITE IS AROUND WHERE IT SAYS NINE, UM, BLAZER PARKWAY.
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THE TOP LEFT.SO AGAIN, SUBJECTIVELY AS ONE PERSON OF A SEVEN MEMBER COMMISSION, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR, THE, THE PARKING ON NINE IS INTERNAL.
AND SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VIEWS WHERE YOU CATCH PARKING YOUR PLAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE, THE PERIMETER AT LOWER.
SO SOUTHERN WEST SIDE, PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE YOU LOOK INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BLAZER PARKWAY, RIGHT AT THE CORNER, YOU SEE PARKING.
THE, UH, HORIZONTAL, THE, THE EAST WEST RUN THAT SEPARATES THOSE TWO LOWER BUILDINGS ON THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR TO THE TWO UPPER, IT'S ALMOST A STREET THAT IS A PARKING LOT.
AND SO VISIBILITY IS, WELL, IT'S A LOT OF PARKING.
SO IT'S THAT, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S KIND OF TUCKED IN.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR, SO THE LEFT OF THE NINE ON THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING, THAT PARTICULAR ONE IS IN ANTICIPATION OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE KIND OF HATCHED AREA.
SO THAT COULD HUG AROUND AGAIN, AGAIN, INTERNALIZING THAT PARKING.
I, I THINK I JUST WANTED, AGAIN, MY, MY POINT IS ABOUT DEN AND IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE THE DENSITIES THAT ARE THOUGHT OF IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH IS THE MIXED USE CENTER, YOU, YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO USE STRUCTURED PARKING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO FIGURE OUT.
BUT I'M LOOKING FOR MORE DENSITY AND, AND IF IT REQUIRES PODIUM PARKING OR WHATEVER, THAT'S A DIRECTION.
AND THEN THE OTHER DIRECTION IS, WHAT I SAID IS MAYBE WE JUST LOOK ABOUT HOW DO WE GIVE THE LOOK AND FEEL OF DENSITY WITHOUT ACTUALLY DOING STRUCTURED PARKING.
SO THAT'S, I'M BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AS THE APPLICANT SAYING, COULD YOU EXPLORE THAT AND LET US KNOW? MAYBE YOU COULD, MAYBE WE CAN ACHIEVE SOMETHING REALLY POSITIVE IN THE SECOND APPROACH, BUT, OKAY.
I DON'T WANNA DESIGN IT FOR YOU.
MR. ALEXANDRA, DID YOU HAVE YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE A, FOR MY OWN BENEFIT BEING ONE OF THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT WAS DESCRIBED, WAS THAT CALCULATED ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE OR ACROSS THE BUILDABLE AREA? SO, SO THAT'S IN A NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINE.
SO THIS ONE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEREFORE FALLS INTO THOSE DESIGN CRITERIA.
AND SO THEREFORE IS, UH, I DON'T WANNA SAY SUBJECTED TO, BUT UH, THE, THE CALL OUT FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO IS SPECIFIED BASED ON THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
RIGHT? NO, I KNOW, I KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN? NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES? MM, I'M, IT'S, IT'S IN, I THINK IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, BUT IT'S IN THE TABLE, THE TABLE IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT HAS THE, ON THE TWO UP.
JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE COMMISSION.
I THINK YOU'D MENTIONED NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU MEANT THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
BUT EMBEDDED IN THERE, THEY HAVE THOSE PAGES ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPES THAT HAVE THE TWO UP PAGES THAT ARE LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOMETHING.
SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S CALLED NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
BUT IT'S THAT TWO UP PAGE THAT HAS THE HOUSING TYPE AND THE MATRIX ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
MY QUESTION'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ELEMENTARY.
THE MATH, IS THE MATH DONE ACROSS THE WHOLE SITE? YES.
SO THEY HAVE A SITE WHERE YOU CAN'T BUILD ON A THIRD OF IT.
IS THAT FAIR TO APPLY THAT TO THE WHOLE SITE? THE THE DENSITY COULD THEN GO UP? WELL, IF YOU SAID THEY CAN ONLY BUILD ON, IF THEY'RE, IF THE AREA THAT THEY'RE USING BECOMES A SMALLER NUMBER, THEN THEIR MATH WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
THEIR NUMBER WOULD COME OUT DIFFERENTLY.
INSTEAD OF 0.9 PER ACRE, YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT CURRENTLY ON, I APOLOGIZE, WAITED TOO LONG.
I, I SAID, UM, I SAID IT WOULD CHANGE.
I I DON'T HAVE THOSE CALCULATIONS OFF HAND.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, BECAUSE I'M WONDERING IF IT'S FAIR WHEN YOU HAVE A SITE THAT SO MUCH OF IT'S UNBUILDABLE TO APPLY THAT STANDARD, WHICH DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE, UM, THAT STANDARD ASSUMES THE SITE IS NEUTRAL AND YOU CAN BUILD ON IT ALL, WHEREAS THEY CAN'T BUILD ON IT ALL.
SO THEY ALREADY HAVE A HARDSHIP.
UM, SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UM, THEY'RE, YOU'LL GET A HIGHER NUMBER, RIGHT? IF YOU USE THE BUILDABLE AREA.
IT'S, SO YOU BA YOU DID BASE IT ON THE BUILDABLE AREA, NOT THE SITE.
THEN THAT, DID YOU TAKE THAT? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR.
DID YOU TAKE OUT THE WORDS? AND AGAIN, OKAY, THESE NUTS AND BOLTS THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO ARE MORE THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT WE'RE REACTING TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT, HEY, THE NEXT STEP,
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YOU KNOW, WE NEED CLARIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL, AGAIN, YOUR WORDS FINANCIAL IMPLICATION OF THAT NEXT STEP.AND, AND AGAIN, THE LAST TIME YOU CAME BEFORE US, WE, THE COMMUNITY PLAN WASN'T ADOPTED.
AND SO, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUIDANCE.
SO NOW WE HAVE GUIDANCE AND WE AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, WE HAD AN OLD, YEAH, WE HAD, WE HAD THE PREVIOUS COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH DIDN'T TALK ABOUT DENSITY HERE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, I GUESS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO THAT, THAT NEW COMMUNITY PLAN AND THE DENSITY THAT IT PROJECTS FOR THIS AREA.
AND I GUESS THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUSHING BACK HERE TO UNDERSTAND WHY HAVEN'T YOU LOOKED AT THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND, AND TRIED TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU COULD ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVES OF THAT THAT SETS OUT FOR A COMMUNITY FOR A MIXED USE CENTER.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR YOU TO RESPOND TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE APPLICATIONS TO RESPOND TO THAT.
MIKE AND JEFF, UNLESS YOU HAVE ENOUGH.
NO, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME.
HE HAS REC RECUSED HIMSELF FROM THIS NEXT CASE, SO WE WILL GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO EXIT BEFORE I READ IN THE TOPIC AGAIN, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
AND, AND YOU GUYS ARE VETERANS, BUT AS YOU'RE EXITING, IF WHEN YOU EXIT, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSIONS, IF YOU COULD HEAD DOWN PAST THE KITCHEN AREA, THIS AREA, JUST OUTSIDE OF THE, THE ROOM IS AN ECHO CHAMBER.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, OUR NEXT CASE
[Case #24-160CP]
IS 24 DASH ONE 60 CP COS GREAT COMMONS.THIS IS A REVIEW AND NON-BINDING FEEDBACK OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND OPEN SPACE.
THE 43 AND A THIRD ACRE SITE IS LOCATED SOUTHWEST AT THE INTERSECTION OF POST ROAD AND STATE ROUTE 1 61 POST ROAD, AKA STATE ROUTE 1 61 AND UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD AND IS ZONED ID TWO RESEARCH FLEX DISTRICT.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TURN THE TIME OVER TO OUR APPLICANT FOR PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.
STAFF WILL THEN PROVIDE STAFF ANALYSIS AND REC RECOMMENDATION.
AFTER WHICH THE COMMISSION WILL ASK QUESTIONS, WE WILL THEN OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE DELIBERATION.
I'LL TURN THE TIME OVER TO YOU.
I'M WITH NBBJ HERE REPRESENTING OUR CLIENT TONIGHT, TWO 50 SOUTH HIGH STREET, COLUMBUS, OHIO.
UM, WE PRESENTED, UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW.
UH, HOPING FOR GREAT FEEDBACK AS WE, UH, MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS, UH, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, WE WERE HERE AND RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK IN, UH, MAY ON THE INFORMAL REVIEW.
AND SO WE'RE ATTEMPTING TONIGHT TO ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE GOT, UH, AS WE'VE CONTINUED TO DEVELOP THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE SHARED, UH, PRIOR BACK IN MAY IS IN THE APPENDIX OF THIS PRESENTATION.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OVER THAT AGAIN, BUT WE DID FEEL LIKE IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO JUST, UH, UNEARTH THIS DIAGRAM AND RECYCLE IT, BRING IT BACK.
UH, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES MOSTLY, UM, TO THE WEST OF OUR SITE AS THE SITE FOR THE, UH, RAIL STATION HAS EXPANDED AS WELL AS THE SPORTS OHIO SITE TO THE SOUTH OF US HAS EXPANDED.
UH, WE REALLY SEE OUR SITE AS A POTENTIAL OF BEING, UH, THE HEART OF THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
AND, UH, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SHOWING THE DIAGRAM HERE, UH, SUPPORTS THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEW INTERCHANGE, UH, THE PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, EVERYTHING THAT'S SLATED FOR THIS AREA.
UH, OUR CLIENT AND US WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM, UH, MR. ALEXANDER, UH, LAST TIME WAS THINKING JUST ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.
UH, SO WE'VE TRIED TO PUT A LITTLE ADDITIONAL THOUGHT INTO THAT, AT LEAST AT A CONCEPTUAL LEVEL FOR THIS PLAN.
UH, YOU COULD SEE WE'RE BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT, UH, SUSTAINABILITY, STORMWATER HARVESTING, BRINGING A LOT OF THAT TO BE A, A CENTRAL FEATURE OF THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE THAT YOU SEE HERE.
RUNNING IT ALONG THE ONE EARTH, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT IN A NORTH TO SOUTH DIRECTION, FUNNELING EVERYTHING TO THE MIDDLE.
AND, UH, POTENTIALLY HAVING THE IDEA OF THE ONE EARTH BEING THIS KIND OF GREEN STREET.
UH, WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS, I THINK REMAINS TO BE SEEN, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT DUBLIN WILL ALLOW AND IS INTERESTED IN.
UH, BUT THAT'S A CONCEPT THAT WE'RE EXPLORING.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE SITE, YOU KNOW, JUST, IT'S A NORTH SOUTH
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SITE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH EFFICIENCY AS POSSIBLE OUT OF THE BUILDINGS, ORIENTING THEM NORTH, SOUTH, WHICH ISN'T ALWAYS, UH, THE BEST SOLAR ORIENTATION, WHICH I THINK WAS BROUGHT UP IN OUR LAST MEETING.BUT I THINK YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE FACADE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE DONE AT A CONCEPTUAL LEVEL, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO, UM, MITIGATE SOME OF THE, THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT, THAT MAY HAVE ON THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN JUST FROM A MATERIAL STANDPOINT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION PROGRAMMATICALLY ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH IN THE SITE.
THE NORTH SIDE BEING SOMETHING, UH, A LITTLE MORE POLISHED, INNOVATIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO GO WITH THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, UM, AND BEING MORE PROGRAMMED.
THAT'S ABOUT COMMERCIAL HOTEL, UH, CONFERENCE RETAIL, KIND OF A, A MIXED USE URBAN DISTRICT.
AS WE MOVE SOUTH IN THE SITE, THE MATERIALS SORT OF NA UH, NAVIGATE MATERIAL TYPOLOGIES FROM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S METAL TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE MASONRY, UH, TO SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, WOOD.
NOT EXACTLY WOOD, BUT WOOD, LIKE PROBABLY, UH, WE, WE FEEL THIS REFLECTS NICELY, UM, FROM A MATERIAL STANDPOINT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE, THE PROGRAM OF THE SITE, THE SITE PLAN.
UH, JUST A FEW POINTS I WANNA MAKE ON THIS.
NUMBER ONE, UH, WE'VE PUT A SIGNIFICANT AT, AT, UH, THE SUGGESTION OF YOU ALL.
WE PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT INTO THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE.
WE WANT THE OPEN SPACES, UH, AT THE CENTER OF THIS PROJECT AND AROUND THE PROJECT TO BE MEANINGFUL, UH, AND NOT RESIDUAL.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THAT.
UM, PHASING WISE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE NORTHERN PARCELS.
PROBABLY, UH, COMING FIRST, THERE WERE SOME PHASING QUESTIONS LAST TIME, UH, AND MAYBE EVEN A FAVOR TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST.
UH, AND THEN LAST POINT, I KNOW THAT, UM, MRS. HARTNER MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT DROP OFF IN CIRCULATION.
WE HAVE TRIED TO WORK THOSE INTO THE PLAN, UM, TO, TO A CONCEPTUAL LEVEL, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW DROP-OFFS BETTER WORK FOR BUILDINGS, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, OR UM, HOTELS.
THEY ALL KIND OF FUNCTION DIFFERENTLY.
I'M GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH A SERIES OF RENDERINGS, WHICH I KNOW YOU'VE ALL SEEN, BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE A FEW, I THINK IMPORTANT POINTS.
UM, THERE'S A KEY PLAN AT THE TOP, RIGHT? SO THIS WOULD BE IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY IN A HELICOPTER ABOVE THE ROUNDABOUT, LOOKING TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY AIMING FOR IMPACT IS PROBABLY THE WORD AT THAT CORNER.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE HOTEL THAT WE HAVE THERE.
AND, UM, JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS YOU COME AROUND THE CORNER, UH, A BIG EXCLAMATION POINT FOR THE PROJECT, ANNOUNCING THE PROJECT, UH, HELPING FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS KIND OF A GATEWAY INTO THE PROJECT IS, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR THERE.
AIR, THE CENTRAL SPACE, UM, MY FAVORITE, YOU COULD SEE, UH, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN BRIDGE PARK.
THIS PROJECT COULD HAVE A HILL.
UH, AND WE'VE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, IN AN INTERESTING WAY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, DUBLIN'S KIND OF THE FOUND FOUNDING OF DUBLIN AND THINKING ABOUT, UH, WHY IT'S NAMED DUBLIN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, BUT THE HISTORIC HOUSE REMAINS.
UH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT THAT BACK.
UH, BUT AT THE, UM, DIRECTION TALKING WITH CHRIS AND, AND THE TEAM, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT INTERIOR EXAMPLES AS WELL AS LANDSCAPE EXAMPLES AS YOU CAN SEE, WHICH ARE A LITTLE MORE CONTEMPORARY, UH, WHICH PLACED THIS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE AT HOME IN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
BUT WE DO LOVE THE IDEA OF THE HISTORIC HOUSE.
MAYBE HAVING SOME RELATIONSHIP TO SOME OF THE OTHER HISTORIC STRUCTURES ALONG OLD POST ROAD, UH, AND HEARKENING TO THE PAST IN THAT WAY.
UH, FOLKS, UH, COMING FROM THE WEST, PLAIN CITY, COVILLE, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THIS VIEW.
UH, WE HAVE REARRANGED THE HOTEL TO THIS CORNER.
MAYBE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT RESIDENTIAL BUILDING BEING ON THAT CORNER, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UH, SO WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF MOVED SOME PROGRAM AROUND AND WE ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S DEMAND FOR MORE THAN ONE HOTEL.
AND WE THINK THAT'S A REALLY NICE USE FOR THAT CORNER TO ANNOUNCE, UH, THE SITE.
IN TERMS OF GATEWAY, LAST POINT I WANNA MAKE ON THIS SLIDE, SORRY.
WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO, UH, AFTER MEETING WITH TINA ABOUT THE SHARED USE PATHS AROUND THE SITE.
YOU'LL SEE THOSE ALONG COS GRAY AND THE LONG POST ROAD THERE.
UH, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT I THINK, FOR CONNECTIVITY TO THE COMMUNITY BEYOND, UH, BUT ALSO CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS INTO THIS SITE.
UH, FEEDBACK I THINK WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
ROUTE ABOUT INTENTIONAL LANDSCAPE SPACE AND BUFFER ALONG COS GRAY AND ALONG INDIAN RUN, UH, YOU COULD SEE AT LEAST CONCEPTUALLY WE'RE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING AMPLE LANDSCAPE IN THESE AREAS, UH, ADDING LANDSCAPE TO THE, THESE AREAS, BUT ALSO BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT THAT LANDSCAPE LOOKS LIKE AND, AND CODING IT A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU WILL.
SO INDIAN RUN WOULD HAVE, UH, KIND OF AN AESTHETIC, WHEREAS COS GRAY WOULD HAVE AN AESTHETIC, UM, STARTING IT AGAIN.
AND THEN THINK ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE TYPOLOGIES OF THE SITE
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ON THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE SITE, UH, THAT YOU COULD SEE HERE.YOU COULD START TO SEE SOME OF THE UH, UH, TOWN HOMES, WHICH WE'RE SHOWING A TOTAL OF 31.
UH, REALLY NICE, I THINK PROGRAM ELEMENT ON THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE SITE AS IT RELATES TO INDIAN RUN, QUIETER, CALMER ON THIS END OF THE SITE.
UH, I THINK A REALLY NICE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU ARRIVE.
WE'RE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO HOW UH, FOLKS ARRIVE SO WELL.
THIS IS PROBABLY A MAIN ARRIVAL.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE.
SO, UH, THERE'D BE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON YOUR RIGHT.
THE BUILDING KIND OF IN THE DISTANCE ON YOUR LEFT IS A MARKET OR GROCER, UH, TRYING THIS, THIS IS THE OPEN SPACE THAT ALIGNS, KIND OF CONNECTS AND, UH, REFLECTS THE OU OPEN SPACE.
SO SOME OF THE MAIN OPEN, SOME OF THE MAIN ARRIVAL POINTS, UH, OFF OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE, AS WELL AS COS GRAY, UM, OPEN RIGHT AT, UH, LARGE LANDSCAPE OPEN SPACES, WHICH WE THINK IS A NICE WAY TO KIND OF GREET PEOPLE INTO THE SITE.
AND THEN OPPOSITE THAT, THIS IS COMING IN OFF OF COS GRANDE ON THE SAME STREET, ANOTHER VIEW, UM, OF THE HOTEL AT THAT CORNER.
THIS RENDERING WAS DONE, UH, BEFORE THE INTERCHANGE WAS OPEN.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC THAT YOU SEE IN THE, THE VIEW HERE.
UM, BUT WE DO, WE DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS, THIS VIEW IS GONNA BE A REALLY IMPORTANT ICONIC MOMENT FOR THE PROJECT.
KIND OF AN ENLARGEMENT OF THE COMMONS HERE AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET INTO MORE VIEWS OF THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE HEART OF THE SPACE, REALLY THE HEART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, EVERYTHING FRONTS ONTO THIS, EVERYTHING TIES TO THIS.
WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
YOU CAN START TO SEE THIS IDEA OF THE HILL.
UM, AND, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS, UH, AGAIN, KIND OF A REFLECTION OF MAKING THIS A, UH, A MORE SUSTAINABLE TYPE DEVELOPMENT IS STARTING TO THINK ABOUT THOSE JEWEL BUILDINGS OF THAT PROGRAM, UH, THAT RETAIL, UM, MAYBE LIVING UNDER THIS.
UM, AND THERE'S EXAMPLES OF THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND INTERESTING.
YOU COULD SEE IT HERE, ESPECIALLY, IT BRIDGES THE STREET PRETTY ASPIRATIONAL OBVIOUSLY.
BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, REAL, AS I SAID, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THINKING ABOUT THE ARROW THAT I SHOWED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO BRING INDIAN RUN THROUGH THE SITE TO THE NORTH.
AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT? HOW DO YOU PULL PEOPLE? HOW DO YOU CREATE AN EXCITING PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE, AN ICONIC PIECE OF, UH, LANDSCAPE THAT ACTUALLY DOES DRAW PEOPLE THERE? AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING TO THE RESTAURANT, BUT IT'S ABOUT EXPERIENCING THE HILL.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UH, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE WARNER.
UM, SO THIS VERY LIKE, KIND OF VERTICAL MIXED USE OPPORTUNITY.
RETAIL ON THE LEFT OFFICE ON THE RIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CURBLESS STREET WITH BOLLARDS AND PAVERS.
UH, THERE'S A PLAZA THERE AND KIND OF THE BURIED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS VIEW WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE THINK ABOUT THIS IDEA OF, UH, YOU KNOW, FOUNTAINS OR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOOD TRUCKS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THIS WOULD BE A HIGHLY ACTIVATED OUTDOOR LANDSCAPE SPACE.
AND ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE PROJECT IS HOW WE PROGRAM IT.
AND THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE, THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIVE HERE.
THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE HERE.
THEY WANT TO BE, THEY, THEY WANNA LIVE, WORK, PLAY HERE.
UH, BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE THAT, WE REALLY THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A MARKET OR GROCER THERE.
SO THAT'S A BIG CHANGE, UH, FROM THE LAST, UH, SUBMISSION.
UH, SO YOU COULD SEE WE HAVE KIND OF A MARKET GROCER TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, MEZZANINE SPACE IN VISION, KIND OF THE NORTH MARKET, BUT PROBABLY MORE CONTEMPORARY IN KEEPING WITH THE ARCHITECTURE HERE.
BUT, UH, A REALLY ACTIVATED SPACE THAT, UH, LIVES RIGHT AT THE HEART OF THE PROJECT AND CAN BE PROBABLY AN EARLY, EARLY, UM, EARLY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GET HIT THE GROUND RUNNING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES HERE AS YOU MOVE TOWARDS THE SOUTH, A A CIVIC OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR A BUILDING.
WE HAVE A NATURE CENTER ALONG INDIAN RUN.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF BOOKENDING THIS, THIS REALLY GREAT LANDSCAPE COMMON SPACE ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH THIS HISTORIC HOUSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WITH THE, THE NATURE CENTER.
UM, AND ALL OF THE ACTIVATED ARCHITECTURE ALONG THE EDGES IN BETWEEN, UH, THIS COULD HAVE A RELATIONSHIP TO RETENTION, A RELATIONSHIP TO THE WOOER, UM, YOU KNOW, AND POSSIBLY A RELATIONSHIP TO A, UH, A, MAYBE A CORRIDOR OF A SIGNATURE TRAIL THAT COULD HAPPEN ALONG INDIAN RUN.
WE ALSO TOOK THE TIME, I WANNA MAKE THIS POINT WHILE I'M ON THE SLIDE TO, UH, AFTER TALKING WITH CHRIS ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE SAFETY ON THE WOO EARTH TO DEAD END SOME OF THE WOO EARTH, UH, STREETS SO THAT THEY DIDN'T, UH, CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH AT HIGH RATES OF SPEED.
SO IT'D BE KIND OF LIKE HIGHLY LOCALIZED TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING ON THOSE STREETS.
AND THEN LAST SLIDE, UH, THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING EAST, OR SORRY WEST ALONG THAT SOUTHERN STREET WITH INDIAN
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RUN KIND OF ON YOUR LEFT AND THE, THE TOWN HOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAM ON THE RIGHT.I THINK THAT'S ALL FROM OUR, UH, TEAM.
MR. WILL THANK YOU AGAIN, LIKEWISE TO THE PREVIOUS UH, CASE.
UM, AGAIN, IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE NON-BINDING FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS TO AN APPLICANT BEFORE THEY SUBMIT A FORMAL APPLICATION.
AGAIN, LAND USE AND DENSITY, GENERAL SITE LAYOUT, STREETS AND CIRCULATION, OPEN SPACE FRAMEWORK AND INTEGRATION TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE KEY CONSIDERATIONS AT THIS STAGE.
DISCUSSION QUESTIONS ARE PROVIDED, UM, FOR DISCUSSION, UH, BUT NO DETERMINATION IS REQUIRED.
UM, THE SITE HERE HIGHLIGHTED 43 ACRES IS LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF POST ROAD AND UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD.
UM, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY IN AGRICULTURAL USE.
UM, THERE IS A TRIBUTARY TO THE SOUTH FORK AT THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, COS GRAY ROAD BOUNDS THE SITE TO THE WEST.
UM, THE SITE IS ALL SURROUNDED BY OU CAMPUS TO THE EAST, THE DELIN GREEN AND COSTCO SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH.
UM, A EP OWNED LAND AND SPORTS OHIO TO THE SOUTH AND THE OFFICIAL INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE WEST.
THE SITE IS IN PORTIONS OF BOTH UNION AND FRANKLIN COUNTIES.
SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS, PHOTOS FROM THE SUMMER SINCE WE STILL HAVE SNOW ON THE GROUND.
UM, THE PHOTO AT LEFT IS LOOKING TO THE SOUTHWE SOUTHWEST AT THE ROUNDABOUT OF UNIVERSITY AND POST ROAD.
AND THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT IS LOOKING TO THE SOUTHEAST FROM THE ROUNDABOUT AT POST ROAD AND COS GRAY RUN, SHOWING THE AGRICULTURAL FIELDS, UM, SOME MATURE TREES ALONG POST ROAD AND THAT TRIBUTARY AND RIPARIAN CORRIDOR AT THE FAR SOUTH END OF THE SITE.
UM, SIMILAR TO THE LAST APPLICATION, THE COMMUNITY PLAN FEATURE, LAND USE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS SITE IS ALSO MIXED USE CENTER.
UM, AS A REMINDER, UM, THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO CREATE A VIBRANT, WALKABLE, MIXED USE DESTINATION.
UM, HORIZONTAL MIXING OF USES, VERTICAL MIXING OF USES AT KEY LOCATIONS.
UM, PRINCIPAL USES OFFICE HOSPITALITY, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL LABORATORY, AND RR AND D SUPPORTED WITH THOSE COMMERCIAL, CIVIC AND RETAIL SPACES.
DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO BE TWO TO EIGHT STORIES TALL AND ORGANIZED, ORGANIZED AROUND A SYSTEM OF OPEN SPACE AND STREETS.
THE SITE IS ALSO WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT SPECIAL AREA PLAN.
UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A PRINCIPLE FOCUS OF THIS DISTRICT.
WHILE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES SERVE AS AMENITIES TO SUPPORT EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYERS, THE CREATION OF A DISTINCT WALKABLE MIXED USE NODE IN THE WI IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
IN 2016, THE OHIO UNIVERSITY AND THE CITY COLLABORATED TO CREATE AN OU DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK PLAN, WHICH ILLUSTRATES A VISION FOR THEIR CAMPUS.
UM, JUST TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.
THOUGH THIS SITE IS NOT WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK BOUNDARY, WE CAN'T LOOK TO IT FOR VIEW CORRIDORS, UM, STREET LEVEL EXPERIENCES, GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE NETWORK.
UM, TO THE LEFT IS A PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE SITE PLAN, WHICH THE COMMISSION, UM, PROVIDED FEEDBACK IN JUNE OF 2024.
FEEDBACK WAS GENERALLY POSITIVE, UM, WITH A GOOD RESPONSE TO THE CREATIVITY AND THE OPEN SPACE FRAMEWORK.
SOME CONCERN, UM, WAS PROVIDED FOR THE DENSITY OF THE SITE AT WRIGHT IS THE PROPOSED PLAN TONIGHT THAT THE COMMISSION IS REVIEWING A FEW KEY CHANGES BETWEEN THE TWO THAT THE APPLICANT NOTED THAT'LL HIGHLIGHT AND READ TO THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE.
USES WERE REORGANIZED TO PUT TO MOVE THE HOTEL ALONG POST ROAD AND ELIMINATE, UM, APARTMENTS OR RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY FRONTING POST ROAD.
UM, IN PURPLE, A OFFICE RETAIL BUILDING HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A RETAIL GROCERY BUILDING AND BLUE.
THE STANDALONE, UM, RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITHIN THAT OPEN SPACE HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THIS HILL OR LANDSCAPE FEATURE.
AND THEN THE WOUND EARTH, WHICH CONNECTED TO POST ROAD AND THE MOST SOUTHERNLY NEW STREET, HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED.
AND THIS GENERALLY ALIGNS WITH BEST PRACTICE FOR ACCESS MANAGEMENT ALONG POST ROAD AND TO ELIMINATE THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THIS ROUTE FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
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GENERALLY CONSISTENT.THE APPLICANT CONTINUES TO PROPOSE ABOUT NINE ACRES OF OPEN SPACES, UM, WITHIN PARK SPACE, STREET SCAPES AND SETBACKS AND TRANSITIONS TO NEARBY AREAS.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS ADVANCED THE PURPOSE AND DESIGN OF THE OPEN SPACE AS HE DEMONSTRATED EARLIER.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO, UM, PROVIDED ADDITIONAL, UM, ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS SHOWING MASSING AND SCALE OF BUILDINGS AS WELL AS CHARACTER.
UM, AS THE APPLICANT NOTED, BUILDINGS GENERALLY ARE TALLER AND MORE INTENSE AND ACTIVE ALONG POST ROAD AND QUIETER AND SMALLER AS YOU MOVE CLOSER TO THE TRIBUTARY AT THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.
WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REVIEW AND NON-BINDING FEEDBACK.
UM, THE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS ARE ORGANIZED TO FRAME THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK.
THANK YOU, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. WILL, UH, WE'RE GONNA REVERSE ORDER GO WITH MR. GARVIN.
UM, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I'LL STICK TO QUESTIONS HERE.
SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE EARLY IN THE STAGES, UM, BUT YOU DID TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THAT HOTEL ON THE, UM, 1 61 SIDE.
UM, GIVEN THE GUIDELINES OF TWO TO EIGHT STORIES, DO YOU EXPECT IT TO FIT WITHIN THAT OR DO YOU EXPECT TO LOOK FOR A EXCEPTION VARIANCE FOR THAT? UH, CURRENTLY WE WE'RE SHOWING AT 12 STORIES.
UM, AND SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION, THAT ONE BUILDING EVERYTHING ELSE FITS, UH, WITHIN THE, THE TWO TO EIGHT STORIES WE'RE JUST, I, LIKE I SAID, TRYING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT CORNER.
UM, AND TO UNDERSTAND, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF YOUR STRATEGY FOR PARKING, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SEVERAL GARAGES.
MAYBE ONE OF THE CONCEPTS YOU HAD WAS KIND OF A GARAGE HIDDEN.
AM I, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PICTURE'S HANDY OF THAT.
WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD UP, THERE'S A GARAGE KIND OF INTERIOR TO A FEW BUILDINGS.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT IDEAS TO MAYBE ACTIVATE THE, THE TOP OF IT AND NOT USE THAT FOR PARKING.
IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S, THAT'S ACCURATE, YEP.
AND SO, UM, I GUESS I, IT'LL MAYBE COME LATER, BUT, UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GIVE A THOUGHT TO TRAFFIC AROUND ENTERING AND EXITING THOSE GARAGES THAT THEY'RE CENTRALLY LOCATED.
OBVIOUSLY, UM, WITH THE MASSIVE BUILDINGS HERE, YOU'LL NEED A LOT OF PARKING.
UH, I, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT SOLUTION, UM, BUT IT DOES BRING UP SOME CONCERNS OF GETTING IN AND OUT.
CHRIS, DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR OU DUBLIN IN TERMS OF, IS THERE ANY FUTURE ANTICIPATION OF NEEDING DORMS OR HOUSING OR ANYTHING ON THAT SITE? OR DO YOU THE FRAMEWORK PLAN IDENTIFIES FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S BOTH EDUCATIONAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PIECES TO CREATE THIS CAMPUS LIKE EXPERIENCE.
UM, THE CITY OR STAFF IS UNAWARE AT THIS TIME OF ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR IN THE PIPELINE FOR THAT SITE.
AND OUR CONNECTION WITH OU IS MAYOR AROSE GROOMS, SHE'S ON COMMITTEES WHERE THAT INTERFACING IS DONE.
IF THERE IS AN UPDATE, IF THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK JUST FOR CONTEXTUAL REASONS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE USEFUL.
UM, NOT TO GET AHEAD OF OUR PROCESS, BUT ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC ON COS GRAY.
UM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE COS GRAY BEING A MAIN POINT OF ENTRY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? UH, I THINK WE, RIGHT NOW IT'S PROBABLY SECONDARY, BUT NOT BY MUCH.
UH, WE HAVE A PRIMARY END OF SECONDARY, BUT I THINK THEY'RE BOTH GONNA BE USED.
UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NEXT PHASES.
WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE, UH, DO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF FURTHER STUDY WITH A REZONING AND PDPA TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WOULD BE REQUIRED OF THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME.
ADDITIONALLY, THE MULTIMODAL PLAN, UM, DOES RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE SITE.
NO ADDITIONAL THOROUGHFARE FUNCTIONAL CLASS TYPE STREETS THROUGH THE SITE.
COS GREAT TO THE WEST IS PROPOSED OR RECOMMENDED TO BE A FOUR LANE FROM THE TWO LANE SECTION.
AND THEN UNIVERSITY IS PROPOSED TO EXTEND IN ITS CURRENT KIND OF SECTION TO THE SOUTH TO LINK UP WITH UNIVERSITY CLOSER TO THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY WEXNER MEDICAL FACILITY.
THE, UH, YOUR PREVIOUS PROPOSAL, AND I'M TAKING THIS
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FROM THE, THE PLAN THAT, UH, CHRIS PUT TOGETHER INCLUDED 2 MILLION, UH, SQUARE FEET FOR DEVELOPMENT.DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR FIGURES ARE FOR THE THIS PROPOSAL? ROUGHLY THE SAME.
AND THE GARAGES, IT LOOKS LIKE, ARE ALL OF THEM JUST STACK GARAGES IN THE MIDDLE WITH SOME TYPE OF SUSTAINABLE GREEN GARDEN TOP? YEAH.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE, UH, WITH THESE PODIUM STYLE BUILDINGS IS, UM, THAT TOP LAYER OF THE GARAGE GETS AMENITIZED, UH, EITHER GREEN ROOF POOL AND IT, IT KIND OF RELATES TO THE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE ADJACENT TO.
UH, SO WE ARE INDICATING THAT THEY WOULD BE, UM, AMENITIZED IN SOME WAY WITH LANDSCAPE ON TOP OF THE GARAGE.
AND THOSE WOULD BE, I GUESS, LEMME ASK THIS OTHER QUESTION.
ARE YOU THINKING ANY OF THESE LIKE APARTMENT CLOSED, APARTMENT COMPLEX AREAS WOULD HAVE A POOL TOP GARAGE? YES.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT SHOWN ON HERE.
UH, I KNOW IT WAS LOOKS LIKE IN ANOTHER ONE, MAYBE IN THE PRIOR ONE I, IF WE'RE LOOKING HERE, BUT YEAH, I DON'T, UM, FRANKLY, THE INTENT THERE WAS, UM, I THINK THE INTENT IS STILL THAT THEY WOULD BE AMENITIZED IN THAT WAY, POSSIBLY WITH POOLS, GRAPHICALLY.
WE WANT THE PLAN TO READ AND RESONATE IN THE CENTRAL COMMONS.
AND WE FELT THAT SOME OF THE OTHER WORK WAS A LITTLE DISTRACTING.
IT'S NOT THAT IT WOULDN'T BE THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S SECONDARY I THINK, TO OUR CONCEPT AT THIS POINT.
AND THAT CENTRAL COMMENTS PIECE WHERE ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE PROPOSING AN ELEVATED WALKWAY, I DON'T, OBVIOUSLY, I'M SURE YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT ESSENTIALLY GREEN TOP TO AN ELEVATED WALKWAY WITH THAT RETAIL UNDERNEATH.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE, BUT LEMME JUST CHECK MY NOTES.
YOU HAVE AN INTERMEDIARY QUESTION.
YEAH, YOU REMINDED ME OF ONE THAT I DIDN'T ASK.
I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY SUPPORT THE ELEVATED WALKWAY AS A FEATURE.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, TREES ON THE ROOFTOP BEFORE? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE EVENTUALLY YOU'VE GOT ISSUES WITH ROOTS OR IS THAT ALL SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE AND UNDERSTOOD? UH, YEAH, IT HAS BEEN DONE.
AND, UM, THEY ALSO, THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TREES.
I MEAN, WE, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE PRECEDENTS WE LOOKED AT IS A, A PROJECT IN, UM, GREEN BAY, WISCONSIN TIDAL TOWN.
UH, THEY HAVE A, A SLEDDING HILL THAT'S ON TOP OF A BUILDING ON TOP OF A RETAIL BUILDING.
AND, UM, I CAN FEEL MY CLIENT, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I SAY THAT, UH, THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO ECONOMIC AND, YOU KNOW, FIGURING THOSE THINGS OUT.
BUT EVEN, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GO OVER TOP OF THE BUILDING, I STILL THINK THERE'S WAYS, UH, FOR US TO CREATE THIS TYPE OF, UM, ARCHITECTURE, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FEATURE TO MAKE IT A, A REALLY UNIQUE SPACE.
THIS IS GONNA GO ON DENSITY PIECE.
DID YOU, DID YOU CALCULATE HOW MANY APARTMENTS THAT YOU WERE THINKING OF HAVING? UH, I DID.
UM, IT'S RIGHT AROUND A THOUSAND.
AND WOULD THOSE BE VARIED BETWEEN ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM? YES, SIR.
AND THE TOWN HOMES, ESSENTIALLY THOSE ARE GONNA BE CONDOS, RIGHT? FOR SALE, YOU SAID HOW MANY OF THOSE? 31? YES.
I KNOW I ASKED THIS LAST TIME, WAS THERE EVER ANY CONSIDERATION ON ANY OF THOSE APARTMENT TYPE BUILDINGS WHERE YOU WOULD DO A CONDO INSTEAD? AND I'M, I'M, AGAIN, I'M LOOKING IN THE BACK PORTION, UH, OF THE PROPERTY, THE MM-HMM
WHAT IS THAT? THE SOUTH, UM, HAS IT, WAS THAT EVER UNDER CONSIDERATION OR DISCUSSION? UH, YEAH, FORGIVE ME FOR MISSING THAT COMMENT.
UM, MY ANSWER WOULD BE THAT IT'S PROBABLY LARGELY MARKET DRIVEN.
UM, I DO THINK THAT, UH, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT RESIDENTIAL STUFF BEING AT THE SOUTH.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL IN THE MIDDLE BAND OF THE PROJECT, SO I COULD IMAGINE THE MIDDLE BAND BEING MORE APARTMENT ISH AND, AND CLOSER TO THE HEART OF THE PROJECT.
AND MAYBE THE, AS WE GET TO THOSE LARGER BUILDINGS TOWARDS THE SOUTH BEING MORE CONDO LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M OKAY FOR NOW.
UH, ARE YOU, DO YOU INTEND TO LINK YOUR OPEN SPACE THAT'S CLEARLY ORGANIZING ELEMENT IN THIS SCHEME WITH OU WITH THEIR CAMPUS AND, AND HOW ARE YOU THINKING DOING THAT? YEAH, YOU CAN SEE, UM, THAT THAT'S A CHALLENGE ALONG
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UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD.IF WE LOOK AT UL'S PLAN, THERE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, SWATH OF GREEN SPACE THAT WORKS EAST TO WEST AND, UM, KIND OF DARTS DARTS ITSELF TOWARDS OUR SITE.
WE HAVE TRIED TO KIND OF BOOKEND THAT AND CAPTURE THAT IN OUR SITE TO, UM, PLAY NICE AND BE GOOD WITH THE OU PLAN.
I THINK THAT THAT'S BEEN OUR, OUR GOAL.
UM, I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS UNDERSTANDING LONG-TERM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE OU CAMPUS.
UH, SO YOU, YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE ENTRY NODES WITH, UM, THESE OPEN SPACES.
I THINK MY THOUGHT IS THAT IF THAT OU PLAN DIDN'T MATERIALIZE AND THERE WASN'T THIS CENTRAL SPACE, THAT IT WOULDN'T LOOK ODD THAT, THAT WE HAD THIS OPEN SPACE, IT WOULD STILL BE VIEWED AS KIND OF AN ENTRY POINT.
IT IS THAT THE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE THAT'S OFF OF UNIVERSITY AND IT, IT ESSENTIALLY CREATES A CROSS AXIS ACROSS THE SITE.
UM, HAVE YOU TA YOU HAVE, UM, FAIR AMOUNT OF RETAIL USE THAT'S INTERNAL TO THE PLANT.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS WHO WOULD DEVELOP RETAIL SPACE AND SEE THAT, THAT WITH THAT VISIBILITY IT'S NOT OUT IN A MAJOR ARTERIAL STILL MAKES IT VIABLE AND USABLE SPACE? UH, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR GI ON THAT ONE PROBABLY, BUT DO, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? HE'S HANDLING ALL THE MARKET.
THAT ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DROVE US TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT TO ADD THE MARKET GROCERY IS JUST SOME OF THE MARKET DEMAND.
ALSO WORKING WITH CHRIS, WE ALSO DID NOT WANT TO HAVE THE SAME SOURCE OF SITUATIONS ACROSS STREET, STANDALONE DRIVE, QSRS RESTAURANTS.
WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE THIS A DENSER URBAN FEEL WHERE YOU'RE GONNA COME INTO THE ENVIRONMENT OKAY.
WALK AROUND AND EXPERIENCE ALL ASPECTS OF IT.
BUT AS HE MENTIONED, EVEN WITH WHERE THE GROCERIES PLACEMENT IS, CONNECTING THAT INTO OU IS IMPORTANT TO TRY TO CREATE THAT WALKABLE OKAY.
WELL, MY CONCERN, 'CAUSE THE GROCERY IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT HAS VISIBILITY BOTH SIDES, BOTH OUTSIDE AS WELL AS INSIDE.
WHEREAS YOU HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF RETAIL THAT'S JUST FACING THE INSIDE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE ADVANTAGE THAT BRIDGE PARK HAS WHERE THEY HAVE VISIBILITY ALONG, UM, RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
SO, AND YEAH, I MEAN NOW WE DO LEASING THERE.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE WHEN WE REPRESENT TENTS JUST ON THE RETAIL SIDE, IS THAT STILL BECOMES A DESTINATION.
YES, YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY, BUT YOU'RE NOT ON A MAIN ARTERY FOR A LOT OF THAT.
YOU'RE SEEING IT, BUT YOU'VE RIGHT.
ENTERED THAT KIND OF BRIDGE PARK CORRIDOR WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT RETAIL ON THE OUTSIDE.
SO YES, A LOT OF OURS IS MORE ON THE INSIDE, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME WAY ON COS GRAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SAME ABILITY.
YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WALKING AS MUCH.
YOU WANT TO BRING THEM IN TO SEE AND EXPERIENCE.
SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHY WE FOCUS THE RETAIL MORE ON THE INNER SIDE.
BUT I, I COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING WITH TONY WOOL.
AS LONG AS YOU, YOU THINK THAT'LL WORK.
BUT I HAD A QUESTION TOO ABOUT THE GARAGES.
'CAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE, THE THREE DS, THE GARAGE LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE STORY.
THERE'S JUST ONE LAYER ABOVE GRADE.
AND THEN, UM, AND SO I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, AND I REALIZE THESE ARE REALLY SMALL SCALE, BUT YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY THE, THE 3D ON THE RIGHT AND WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE, THE HEIGHTS OF THOSE ARE, IS PART OF THAT GONNA BE UNDERGROUND OR IS IT GONNA BE LIKE THREE OR FOUR STORIES? NO, NOT NONE OF IT'S UNDERGROUND.
THE, THE ONE STORY THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS PROBABLY ADJACENT, UM, GARY TO THAT UH, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING SO THAT THE NEEDS WERE LESS THERE.
THE U SHAPE, UH, THE U SHAPES.
AND ALSO THAT ONE ON THE IMAGE ON THE LOWER RIGHT.
THE ONE CLOSEST TO US THAT BUILDING, THE OTHER ONES ARE, ARE TWO AND THREE STORY.
UM, WHAT IS, IS THE SIGNATURE TRAILHEAD CONNECT WITH OUR NETWORK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY? IS THAT, IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT IN THE PLAN? SO THE EWA SIGNATURE TRAIL IS CURRENTLY UNDERST STUDY BY THIS CITY.
NOW, UM, THE ROUTE OR ALIGNMENT OF THAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED.
GENERALLY IT WILL GO FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST.
SO AROUND THIS AREA TO SAWMILL.
UM, THE SOUTH FORK INDIAN RUN IS A POTENTIAL KIND OF CORRIDOR TO THIS.
THIS SITE IS NOT DIRECTLY ON THE SOUTH FORK.
IT IS ON A TRIBUTARY TOUR TO IT.
THE APPLICANT IS SHOWING A SHARED USE PATH OR A PATH CONNECTION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO THAT OR ANY FUTURE TRAIL CONNECTION ALONG THE SOUTH FORK.
THOSE ARE MY INITIAL QUESTIONS.
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THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.I APPRECIATE GETTING MY HEAD AROUND ALL OF THIS AND, UM, TRYING TO, UH, GET A FEW OF THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
ONE IS, HAVE YOU MET WITH THE, UM, LIKE AT OU AND SOME OF THE BUSINESSES AND ANYBODY ELSE REGULARLY? JUST SO THERE'S A GOOD COMMUNICATION HAPPENING? YEAH, WE, UH, I COULD SAY THAT OUR CLIENT HAS MET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVEN'T MET WITH OU YET, BUT THAT'S PLANNED FOR NEXT WEEK.
AND THEN, UM, IS THERE ANY SPEED THAT WOULD BE CHANGING IN THAT AREA AS WELL TOO? UM, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THE LARGE HOTEL YOU'RE MENTIONING AND, UH, THINGS OF THAT SORT, UH, THAT WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULD ANTICIPATING WOULD BE ANTICIPATING, UH, SIMILAR TO THE LAST APPLICATION, THE, THE NEW STREETS, LIKE INTERNAL MM-HMM
THE SITE WOULD HAVE THE LOWER SPEED LIMIT, UM, PROBABLY 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT WITH THAT, UM, NARROWER FEEL AND THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, THE EXISTING ROUTES ON THE PERIMETER OF THE SITES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO REMAIN AT THEIR EXISTING, UM, SPEED LIMITS SET BY STATE STATUTE.
SO THAT WOULD BE STATE STATUTE.
AND IS THAT 35 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, OR, UM, COS GRAY JUMPS AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER POSTED SPEED LIMIT.
UM, AND IT CHANGES AS THE JURISDICTION BOUNDARIES CHANGE.
UM, AND POST ROAD I BELIEVE IS 35.
WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT AND, AND FOLLOW UP.
SO YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE THOSE CHANGING TO 25? NO.
UM, AND UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD IS 35 AS WELL, SO THOSE PERIMETER ROUTES WOULD HAVE THOSE HIGHER SPEED LIMITS.
AND THEN, UM, IS IT SOLAR ON TOP OF THE MARKET, ON TOP OF THE, THE GROCERY AREA? IS THAT, UH, NO, WE, IT'S, IT IS ANGLED LIKE SOLAR WOULD BE, UH, YEAH, WE, AND IT'S, I GUESS I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT SOLAR, IT JUST WASN'T, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A, A MARKET TYPE BUILDING AESTHETIC THAT JUST LETS A LOT OF LIGHT IN.
WOULD THE HISTORICAL HOUSE BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD VISIT OR IN AND OUT OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT OR MAYBE USED IN CERTAIN WAYS? UH, YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF IDEAS.
YOU HAVE VISITOR CENTER, UM, YEAH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT VENUE.
COFFEE SHOP AND LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, UM, THE TREE LINE ON BOTH SIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UM, WITH THE TOWNHOUSES AND SO FORTH TOO.
ARE THOSE DRIVE UP GARAGES OR JUST TO RECONNECT WITH THAT IDEA AS WELL TOO? WE HAD SHOWN THEM AS, UM, UH, LIKE GARAGES IN THE BACK, SO IT'D BE WALK UP IN THE FRONT.
AND THEN CAN YOU SEE, SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING.
THE ONE THAT, UM, YOU SHOW US COMING INTO THE SITE, CAN YOU SEE PEOPLE WALKING ON THE HILL AS YOU'RE DRIVING IN IT? IT KIND OF DEPICTS THAT AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A INTERESTING LOOK THERE.
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN, UM, ON ONE OF THE, SO IT'S THE ONE, UM, THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
UM, AND WE, WE THINK THAT'S AGAIN, A, A PRETTY NEAT FEATURE.
AND, AND THEN DO YOU DRIVE UNDERNEATH IT? I DIDN'T GO THAT FAR.
JUST SO I'M VISUALIZING ALL THAT.
AND THERE WAS ONE MORE QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE NATURE PLACE TOO.
DO YOU SEE SITTING AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OUTSIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE? UH, HAVEN'T THOUGHT THAT FAR, BUT YEAH, SURE.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THERE IS THAT THAT'S A NODE ALONG THE TRAIL, RIGHT? WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW WHAT IT IS, IF IT'S A, A LARGE TYPE NATURE CENTER OR IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SMALLER, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU STOP AT.
UM, UH, BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S ALL OPEN TO DESIGN.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MANY MORE QUESTIONS WITH ALREADY ASKED, BUT FIRST I WANT, I DO WANNA SAY THANK, I MEAN YOU GUYS, JUST AS YOU DID LAST TIME, EXCEPTIONAL JOB SHARING YOUR VISION AND REALLY EXPLAINING IT IT THROUGH THE VISUALS AND AS WELL AS YOU PRESENTED IT.
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING HERE.
UM, MY, MY ONE AND I, I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME.
I STILL HAVE A, A, A VERY BIG CONCERN ABOUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT THIS GREAT PEDESTRIAN CENTER SPACE.
IT'S GONNA BE SUPER ACTIVE, GONNA BE A TON OF PEOPLE USING IT.
IT'S INEVITABLE THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO COME FROM DUBLIN GREEN TO GO TO SHARE IN THE SPACE.
HOW ARE WE HANDLING CROSSING 1 61? 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S, IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CITY, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING
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THAT I THINK WE'RE CREATING.I JUST KNOW MY HIGH SCHOOLER, HE'S GONNA WANT TO COME ACROSS THE STREET
OR MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CITY AS WELL.
THAT TO ME IS A ONE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AS GREAT AS IT IS.
THAT TO ME IS GONNA BE, COULD, COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ISSUE.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AND UH, I KNOW OUR TEAM HAS TALKED ABOUT IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST PEOPLE WHO, UH, AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MAY LIVE HERE, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT A MARKET GROCERY, BUT THEY MAY ALSO WANT TO GO ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, TO SOME OF THE PLACES OVER THERE.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE THAT WALKABLE.
UM, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED IT, UH, BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT.
CAN, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO THAT? SO THERE ARE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AT THE POST ROAD ROUNDABOUTS WITH COS GRAY AND WITH UNIVERSITY TODAY, THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING FACILITIES OF POST ROAD STATE ROUTE 1 61 BETWEEN THOSE.
TINA MAY WANT TO COME UP WITH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT AS IT IS A STATE ROUTE TOO, THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDING SAFETY, TRUCK TRAFFIC, ET CETERA.
SO CAN MR. WILL, BEFORE YOU TURN OVER THE MIC, CAN YOU ALSO TOUCH, TOUCH ON JURISDICTION BECAUSE THAT, THAT DUBLIN GREEN ISN'T DUBLIN, RIGHT? THE COSTCO AND ALL OF THAT, THAT'S NOT DUBLIN.
THE COSTCO GREEN, OR SORRY, DUBLIN GREEN AND THE COSTCO ALDI'S IS WITHIN JEROME TOWNSHIP AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
SO PLANNING THERE WOULD OCCUR OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION THAT WE ALWAYS LOVE TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR NEIGHBORING PARTNERS.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IT'S STILL SOMETHING WE NEED TO, I MEAN, THAT CAN'T BE AN EXCUSE FOR CREATING A REALLY PROBLEMATIC AREA, SO I THINK WE NEED TO JUST COME UP WITH SOMETHING BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR AHEAD WITH THIS.
SORRY, THAT'S, SO MS. MUIC, COULD YOU JUST TALK THROUGH WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM A COLLABORATION? YEAH.
UH, IT IS NOT WITHOUT CHALLENGES, RIGHT? UH, WHEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE AGENCIES INVOLVED.
SO THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS JURISDICTION OVER, UM, A PORTION OF POST ROAD RELATED TO THE INTERCHANGE.
UH, UNION COUNTY HAS JURISDICTION OVER, UM, PARTS AND PIECES OF THESE ROUTES.
AND THEN UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD IS GENERALLY WITHIN, UM, DUBLIN CORP LIMITS, BUT SOUTH OF, UH, THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE COORDINATING WITH THOSE OUTSIDE AGENCIES, PARTICULARLY ON THE NEXT PHASE WHEN WE GO INTO THAT FURTHER TRAFFIC IMPACT, UM, STUDY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GAIN CONSENSUS FROM, UH, NEIGHBORING AGENCIES ON THOSE.
AND, AND CONSIDERING, LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, NOT JUST VEHICLES.
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, PROBABLY APPLICANT.
UM, CAN YOU, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU HAVE THE FAR CALCULATION FOR THIS PROJECT? UH, SO IT'S, IT'S 1.0 FOR THE WHOLE SITE.
UH, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT DEVELOPABLE AREA AFTER YOU TAKE OUT, UH, THE ROADS AND THE RIGHT OF IT'S 2.0.
UH, AND THEN CAN YOU, CAN YOU BRING UP THE, THE LAYOUT? CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT, UM, AS PART OF OUR SPECIAL AREA PLAN AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE LAND USE, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
CAN YOU POINT OUT THOSE AREAS ON THE SITE PLAN, THE, THE NEW JANUARY, 2025 SITE PLAN THAT QUALIFY AS THOSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVERS? UH, YES, CERTAINLY.
UM, ALL OF, I WILL SAY, START OFF BY SAYING ALL OF THE RETAIL IN THE CENTER OF THE SPACE WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THAT.
UH, EVERYTHING IN THE NORTH BLOCK, UH, THE NORTHERN TWO BLOCKS IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL HOTEL.
UM, AND THEN IN THE, THE MIDDLE BLOCKS, IT'S KIND OF 50 50.
UH, I HAVE, I, I KIND OF DID A CALCULATION, WE'RE RIGHT AT AROUND 50 50 IF YOU JUST GO BY SQUARE FOOT.
UH, 50% EMPLOYMENT, 50%, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
UH, NOW AS FAR AS A HIGHER LEVEL OF EMPLOYMENT RATHER THAN YOUR RETAIL CENTRIC, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OFFICE USES, UM, THOSE TRUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVERS THAT CITY COUNCIL IS TYPICALLY CONCERNED WITH, CAN, CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT THOSE? HAS ANY CALCULATION BEEN DONE ON PERCENTAGE IN REGARDS TO THOSE OFFICE USES? UH, I CAN'T SAY PERCENTAGE, UM, BUT I CAN SAY THAT, UM, WE'RE RIGHT AT 400,000, UH, SQUARE FEET.
AND AGAIN, IT'S SAME, SAME ANSWER.
IT'S KIND OF IN THOSE NORTHERN TWO BLOCKS AND PARTIALLY IN THE MIDDLE BLOCKS.
UM, HO HOTEL AND CONFERENCE IS ABOUT ANOTHER
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THREE 50.AND THEN THE RETAIL WAS ONE 50.
UM, AND THEN, UM, JUST, UH, AGAIN, KIND OF BUILDING BLOCK WISE, THE NATURE CENTER, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THAT AS A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT RATHER THAN IS AN ISOLATED ALL ON YOUR PROPERTY, THEREFORE ON YEAH.
AND, AND NATURE CENTER IS, IS PROBABLY, UM, UH, A STRONG NAME FOR, FOR WE, I MEAN, WE WOULD ALL WANNA FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS TOGETHER, I THINK.
WELL, AND, AND I THINK WE WOULD SO CONSIDER THE, THE HONDA PROPERTY OFF OF HIGHLAND CROIX, EVEN THE BOARDWALK.
THAT'S NATURE CENTER, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH.
THAT LABEL CAN FIT MANY CRITERIA.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
UH, THE TIME IS NOW OPEN FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, WE WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND WE DO ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE NEED TO PAUSE FOR? ALRIGHT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL OPEN COMMISSION DELIBERATION.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA MIX IT UP A LITTLE BIT, MOSTLY BECAUSE I'M TIRED AND I NEED TO KEEP MYSELF ON MY TOES.
SO, MR. ALEXANDER, DO YOU WANNA START US OFF? OKAY.
UM, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY OTHER THAN REINFORCING WHAT I SAID BEFORE.
UM, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSAL.
I DO THINK THE, UH, PLAN HAS IMPROVED IN TERMS OF THE OPEN SPACE NETWORK.
I THINK REMOVING THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAN BEFORE YOU HAD A NUMBER OF SMALL BUILDINGS, AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ON THE TOWNHOUSES AND THINGS.
I THINK TAKING THOSE OUT AND DEDICATING THAT ENTIRE MIDDLE SPACE TO PUBLIC USE IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT.
UM, I ALSO LIKE THE VARIETY OF EVENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE SPACE.
WHERE YOU START, YOU HAVE THE NATURE CENTER AT ONE END, YOU HAVE THE BRIDGE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY THAT CAME FROM THE HIGH LINE IN NEW YORK.
AND THE MIDDLE SECTION, YOU HAVE THE, UM, HISTORIC BUILDING ON THE ONE END, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, THE TWO, UM, PUBLIC SPACES ON THE CROSS AXIS.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE POTENTIALLY USING THOSE, ONE OF THEM FRONTS THE MARKET, WHICH I THINK IS VALUABLE, BUT USING THEM AS KIND OF ORGANIZERS FOR SOME RETAIL OUT AT THE PERIMETER, I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE A VALUABLE USE OF THOSE SPACES.
UM, I I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION EARLIER.
IS THERE SPACE FOR ACTIVE PLAY? WHERE DO PEOPLE THROW FRISBEES? WHERE DO PEOPLE THROW FOOTBALL? WHERE IS THERE SPACE FOR, IS THERE ENOUGH SPACE FOR ACTIVE PLAY IN, IN YOUR PLAN? MAYBE IT CAN OCCUR DOWN NEAR THE NATURE CENTER, BUT YOU FILL UP THAT PLAN WITH SO MANY, SO MANY THINGS THAT SOMETIMES HAVING JUST OPEN GREEN SPACE CAN BE VALUABLE TOO.
UM, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE ACCESS.
I THINK YOU'VE TRIED TO IMPROVE THE ACCESS A LITTLE BIT OVER WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU HAD LAST TIME, THE CHARACTER AND SCALE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, BUT I HOPE
YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS GREEN BECAUSE OF A COMMENT I MADE THAT HAS COME FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO, AND I HOPE YOU WOULD GO BEYOND JUST MAYBE STORM WATER BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO, LIKE YOUR IDEA OF USING WOOD AND METAL.
WELL, MASS TIMBER CONSTRUCTION IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WORLD IS, IS NOW SEEN AS REALLY A SUSTAINABLE WAY OF BUILDING AND NOT USING STEEL AND CONCRETE, WHICH WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD, YOU'VE SAID CHANGING MATERIALS IS IMPORTANT.
YOU COULD USE MARY'S QUESTION.
YOU COULD HAVE PHOTOVOLTAIC PANELS ON THE ROOFS OF ALL THESE FLAT ROOF BUILDINGS AND NOBODY WOULD SEE THEM.
AND SO YOU, YOUR, YOUR ENERGY IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY TO SAVE ENERGY AND IT WOULDN'T GET IN THE WAY OF THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING.
SO I, I HOPE YOU DON'T JUST GO SORT OF SKIN DEEP WITH THIS.
UM, APPROACH TO A SUSTAINABILITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MY, MY COMMENTS.
I TOO APPRECIATE THE UPDATED SITE PLAN.
I THINK THE, WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO ACTIVATE THAT MIDDLE CORRIDOR, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
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ENJOYED SEEING THAT ELEVATED WALKWAY OR BRIDGE OR WHATEVER YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, DESIGN THERE.I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING PRETTY SPECIAL IF IT ACTUALLY CAME TO FRUITION.
UM, BUT RELATIVE TO THE, OUR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS HERE AGAIN, UH, FOR NUMBER ONE, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE.
THE OPEN SPACE, I'M SUPPORTIVE.
UM, THE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A BETTER JOB.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN PREVIOUSLY ABOUT SOME OF THE INTERNAL TRAFFIC PIECES AND HOW, UH, INTERNS AND OUTTURNS IN SOME OF THE AREAS.
SO I DO THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, BEEN ADDRESSED, UH, TO SOME EXTENT THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME WORK.
UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO BROUGHT IT UP.
I THINK IT MIGHT'VE BEEN GARY RELATIVE TO THE, WITH, WITH OU PLAN AND HOW THAT COULD, HOW THAT COULD RELATE.
AND THEN, UH, I KNOW THAT JAMIE'S POSITION, AND I I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE RELATIVE TO SOME TYPE OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY MECHANISM TO GET ACROSS, UH, THAT, THAT THAT AREA, UH, WHERE, WHERE DUBLIN GREEN IS, AND AGAIN, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT HURDLES WITH ALL THE JURISDICTIONS, BUT I'M SURE THE CITY CAN CAN WORK ON THAT WITH, WITH THE APPLICANT.
UM, I'M STILL, I DON'T, I, I'M, I LIKE THE, THE BUILDING STRUCTURES OR HOW THEY'RE PLACED IN THE SCALE, HOW, HOW THEY'VE CHANGED.
AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE GARAGE MECHANISMS WHERE THEY'RE HIDDEN AND THEY'RE ALSO SUSTAINABLE.
THE, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE SHOULD BE, NOW IT'S SOMETHING DOWN THE LINE RELATIVE TO ADDITIONAL MAYBE CONDOMINIUMS INSTEAD OF APARTMENTS IN THAT BACK AREA, UH, WHERE THE, TO SUPPORT THE TOWNHOUSES IN SOME EXTENT.
BUT I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED DOWN THE LINE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, APPRECIATE IT AND, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE THIS GOES.
UM, ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF THE, THE PROJECT IN GENERAL.
UM, I'LL GO THROUGH THE QUESTION.
SO THE ORGANIZATION MIX, I DO APPRECIATE THAT TRANSITION.
I THINK YOU'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING TO KIND OF CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENT FROM DUBLIN GREEN TO WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING.
SO, UM, I, UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE MORE FORMAL SIDE THERE.
UM, BUT I'LL SKIP TO THE, UH, CHARACTER AND SCALE.
I DO, AS I ALLUDED TO, HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE MASSING OF THAT MAIN HOTEL.
WHEN YOU COME IN JUST FROM UNDER THE BRIDGE UNDER 33.
I THINK THAT'LL BE, UM, PRETTY INTENSE.
UM, THE UPDATES TO THE OPEN SPACE ARE WHAT I'M MOST SUPPORTIVE.
I, I THINK THAT'S, UH, THE IDEA OF AN ELEVATED WALKWAY IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY UNIQUE THAT, UM, MAYBE SOLVES FOR SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AROUND RETAIL NOT BEING, UH, ON THE, UH, ON A ROADWAY THAT VISIBLE.
BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE DRAWN INTO A FEATURE LIKE THAT.
SO I'D BE REALLY DISAPPOINTED IF, UH, IF, IF THAT DIDN'T BECOME FEASIBLE FOR YOU GUYS.
UM, AND THEN ACCESS AND CIRCULATION, AS JASON SAID, I'VE, I'VE GOT CONCERNS THAT I ALLUDED TO AROUND THE TRAFFIC.
UM, THOSE WILL BE, I'M SURE ADDRESSED AS WE GET TO TRAFFIC STUDIES THOUGH.
MS. HAR, I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I LIKE THE IDEA WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE I WANNA GET THERE AND GO THERE.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY A THOUSAND PEOPLE, UM, OR PART OR COMP, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.
SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND, GET MY HEAD WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT AND, AND HOW MUCH THAT DENSITY IS.
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA HOW YOU'RE FRAMING THINGS FROM THE BEGINNING, UH, TO THE END.
THINK, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERESTING THINGS, UM, ABOUT, UH, WHICH WAY TO GO WITH THEM AS WELL TOO.
SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GROCERY RIGHT THERE BRINGING PEOPLE IN.
AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.
AND I HOPE YOU TOUCH AGAIN ABOUT THE SAFETY.
MR. CHINOOK, MAY I ASK ABOUT THE SAFETY AGAIN,
AGAIN, I, I THINK YOU GUYS DID A WONDERFUL JOB EXPLAINING IT.
I THINK IT'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS.
UM, YOU, YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE A VISION FOR IT.
AND I THINK YOU'VE ARTICULATED JUST IN THE SUPERB JOB WITH THAT, IN MY OPINION.
UM, I, I DO, AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA, I'LL SAY IT JUST TO GET A RECORD.
GOTTA FIGURE OUT THE, THE CONNECTION THERE AT 1 61.
UM, AND EVEN TO GO EVEN FURTHER, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP, BUT EVEN HOW WE, HOW IT MAYBE CONNECTS TO SPORTS OHIO AT SOME POINT.
AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT CONNECTING OU.
SO JUST HOW YOU GET TO THE SITE.
'CAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS SUCH A UNIQUE, EXCITING PLACE.
PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO GET THERE FROM ANY POSSIBLE WAY THEY CAN GET THERE.
WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS.
I THINK IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, LIKE IF I WAS GONNA DRIVE TO THE GROCERY STORE AND I WASN'T A RESIDENCE OR THE MARKET, I WASN'T A RESIDENT THERE,
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IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING FOR MORE PUBLIC ACCESS? IT, IT FEELS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE IN THAT ONE IN THE GARAGE ON THE NORTH, UH, EAST SIDE.BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GARAGES AREN'T SO, UM, RESTRICTED TO THE TENANTS.
ONLY IF THERE'S A WAY TO HAVE IT MORE PUBLIC.
UM, AND THEN OVER, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCALE.
I THINK, I THINK THE OVERALL SCALE IS GREAT.
I JUST THINK IN SOME OF THE RENDERINGS, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE HEIGHTS ARE VARYING A LITTLE BIT.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS, I JUST, IT'S HARD TO TELL.
AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE CONCEPTUAL, BUT, UM, IF EVERYBODY EVERYTHING'S MAXED TO EIGHT STORIES ACROSS THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE MISSED SOMETHING THERE.
SO I WOULD SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ARTICULATION IN THE SCALE IN TERMS OF HEIGHTS OF THE BUILDINGS.
BUT AGAIN, OTHER THAN THAT, SUPER SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
LIKE, LIKE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING.
WE TALK ABOUT KIND OF CREATING THESE SPECIAL SPACES AND THIS, THIS DOES THAT IN ALL, ALL ACCOUNTS.
UM, LOOKING AT, UH, THE, THE FIRST ONE, THE, THE MIX OF USES.
WE HAVE A, A LITTLE BIT OF INTERPLAY IN OUR TOOLKIT FOR THIS ONE.
UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, YOUR, YOUR SPOT ON, RIGHT? IT CALLS OUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE.
YOUR FAR IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
I, I, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPOT ON WHERE I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT.
MY NAPKIN MATH USING KIND OF YOUR 50 50 LEVERAGE, THAT PUTS US AT 22% OF THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATION, UH, PROPORTION WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT TYPICALLY SPEAKING, UM, HAS QUALIFIED AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR COUNCIL.
AND SO PRINCIPLE IS THE WORD THAT IS USED IN OUR DOCUMENTATION PRINCIPLE, PRINCIPALLY FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND, UM, HOUSING SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
SO 22%, IT'S SIGNIFICANT, BUT IS A PRINCIPLE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW IT'S A TERRIBLE TIME TO BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS.
I MEAN, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, 2008, 9, 10, 11, 12 WERE TERRIBLE TIME TO BUILD HOUSES.
UM, BUT I WOULD CHALLENGE AS WE COME BACK, IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THAT, UH, EMPLOYMENT CENTER, ESPECIALLY THAT LABORATORY FOCUS, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THEY'RE KIND OF TRYING TO YEP.
UH, SO I'D BE LOOKING FOR THAT.
EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK THAT YOU ARE YOUR DOING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN, TO THE, YOU KNOW, STREET NETWORK MAP TO ALL OF THAT, THAT SHOULD BE DONE AT THIS PARTICULAR PHASE.
AND MS. WASKOWITZ KIND OF WALKED US THROUGH NOT ONLY THE CHALLENGE OF, WE ALWAYS HAVE CHALLENGES OF THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY THAT WELL, YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE TO DEVELOP OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN OWNERSHIP.
YES, THERE ARE IMPACTS, THERE ARE SHARED AGREEMENTS, ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO IT GETS COMPLICATED WHEN THERE ARE TWO, UM, STAKEHOLDERS.
IT GETS EVEN MORE COMPLICATED WHEN THERE ARE IN NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS.
AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING THIS ALREADY.
SO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF CON CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND, AND WE WANT YOUR INSIGHTS, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT BAD TRAFFIC OR SAFETY ISSUES ANYMORE THAN WE DO ANY, ANYMORE THAN OUR TRACK ENGINEERS DO ANYMORE THAN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS DO.
AND I KNOW THAT CHANGE IS HARD, RIGHT? YOU'RE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, NEIGHBORS, CONSTRUCTION'S GONNA BE HARD, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE HARD.
BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN DO A GOOD JOB IN PLANNING THE, THE OVERALL PROJECT TO MITIGATE AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE.
UH, UH, THE ONLY OTHER CALL OUT IS THE SCALE THAT, THAT HOTEL ON THE CORNER.
UM, I, I AGREE THAT WE WANT THE GATEWAY, THE PUNCH FACTOR, RIGHT? MM-HMM
I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WE COME BACK FOR THE MASSING OF THE BUILDINGS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST MODELS WERE SOME TYPE OF VISUALIZATION THAT ACTUALLY HELPS US TO SEE THOSE VIEW CORRIDORS FROM THE DIFFERENT ANGLES, GIVEN THE REALITY.
SO WHETHER THAT'S COMING UNDER THE BRIDGE, I THINK MR. C***K HIGHLIGHTED THAT OBVIOUSLY IS GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT IMPACT THAN COMING OUT OF THE TRAVELING SOUTH TO THE ROUNDABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT IS THAT INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY? MM-HMM
SO ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS, AS MUCH OF THAT MATERIAL YOU CAN BRING BACK TO US AS THIS PROGRESSES THROUGH, I THINK WILL HELP US ALL TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
DO YOU SEEK ANY CLARIFICATION FROM THE COMMISSION? I DO NOT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS NON-BINDING.
SO, UM, INFORMAL REVIEW CONCEPT PLAN, UM, ARE NON-ACTION ITEMS. SO WE'RE
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NOT CALLING FOR, UM, ANY TYPE OF ACTION FROM THE COMMISSION.HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT DONE WITH OUR AGENDA YET.
WE DO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS LEFT.
I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER, ASK IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE A FIVE MINUTE BIO BREAK BEFORE WE START THE NEXT ONE.
WITH THAT, MR. WADE'S NOT HERE, UH, TO BANG THE GAVEL.
SO I'LL JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES AND I'LL GO GET MR. WE ALL RIGHT.
UH, WE WILL RE-ENTER THE MEETING.
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COMMUNICATIONS WE HAVE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT OVERVIEW.UM, SO WE HAD TALKED AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, ABOUT MAYBE GIVING A QUICK OVERVIEW TO SOME OF OUR NEWER MEMBERS ABOUT THE BRIDGE STREET CODE, UM, AND JUST SORT OF HELPING TO PROVIDE THAT BACKGROUND.
UM, SO I'M GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CODE.
I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO A TON OF DETAIL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR DO LIKE A PART TWO IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT TO DIG INTO, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE PRIMER OF THE BACKGROUND.
AND THEN TINA, UM, HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO SHARE, UM, ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AND THE TRAFFIC MODELING AND ALL THOSE PIECES.
'CAUSE THAT IS ALWAYS A GOOD CONVERSATION AMONGST THE COMMISSION.
WE WANT YOU TO FEEL ARMED WITH UNDERSTANDING THE BACKGROUND OF THAT.
AND SAME THING, IF THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT, WE CAN DEFINITELY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND OR COME BACK FOR THE FUTURE.
SO, I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, BUT I THINK REMINDING EVERYONE, SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD TONIGHT ABOUT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROVIDES, UM, AS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE FOR HOW PEOPLE WANNA LIVE AND WORK AND INTERACT IN THE CITY.
SO, I MEAN, THIS WAS DEFINITELY A, UM, COMPLETE CHANGE IN HOW WE, UM, APPROACH DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 10 TO 12 YEARS AGO.
SO IT REALLY PROVIDED US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HOW TO CAPITALIZE ON THE SUCCESS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND USE, UM, THE SCIOTO RIVER AS THAT SORT OF GROUNDING POINT FOR, FOR THAT LARGER BRIDGE STREET DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN HOW THAT SORT OF INTERFACES AND TRANSITIONS OUT TO THE REST OF THE CITY, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UM, AND, AND REALLY FOCUS ON THAT ECONOMIC VITALITY PIECE OF THAT.
SO HOW DO WE ATTRACT WORKERS, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR LARGER CORPORATIONS, RIGHT? PEOPLE AND, AND WORKERS WANT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE AND WORK IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS THAN A TYPICAL SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE RETAINING THAT.
SO, AND THERE'S A BIG PART OF BRIDGE STREET THAT WAS VERY MUCH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE KEEP THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, WITHIN THIS AREA OF THIS CITY? UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN THAT SUCCESS OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, DECADE PLUS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW, UM, VIBRANT THAT IS FROM AN OFFICE STANDPOINT.
WORKERS ARE THERE WORKING IN THE OFFICE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THAT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEY PRINCIPLES, UM, WITHIN THE VISION, UM, THAT WE DID.
AS WELL AS THEN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR CONNECTIONS, CONNECTIVITY FROM A PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT, RIGHT? IT'S VERY WALKABLE.
IT PROVIDES THAT OPPORTUNITY OF THE SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT AND CREATING THAT SORT OF NEW CENTER FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
SO AS I MENTIONED, LIKE SCIOTO RIVER, REALLY WANTING TO FOCUS ON THAT, WHICH AGAIN, YOU'RE SEEING AS PART OF THE METRO PLAN WEST INNOVATION.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY BIG THEME FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN, AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROVIDING THIS BUILT ENVIRONMENT, BUT HOW DOES THAT COMPLEMENT AND INTEGRATE WITH, UM, THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT? UM, AND THEN AGAIN, I MENTIONED CHOICES.
SO NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL, BUT YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL, RECREATION, TRANSPORTATION.
SO THIS REALLY WAS INTENDED TO BE THAT AREA THAT PROVIDES THIS RANGE OF CHOICES FOR ALL DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE CITY.
AND THEN AGAIN, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CREATING THAT QUALITY PLACE, UM, THAT PEOPLE WANNA BE AT.
SO THAT REALLY TRANSLATED INTO THE VISION PLAN THAT WE CREATED IN 2010, UM, WHICH AGAIN, JUST STARTS TO LAY OUT A VERY DIFFERENT STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, FOR THE CITY WITH LOTS OF STREET CONNECTIONS AND, AND BREAKING THESE DOWN INTO BLOCKS THAT ARE VERY COMFORTABLE, WALKABLE.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT MIX OF USES.
SO THAT WAS A REALLY KEY COMPONENT OF THE PLAN, UM, THAT WE WENT THROUGH WHEN WE DEVELOPED BRIDGE STREET.
AND THAT'S BEEN CARRIED THROUGH TO TODAY.
SO THIS IS THE SPECIAL AREA PLAN FROM ENVISION DUBLIN THAT WAS ADOPTED.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE STILL SEEING THAT SAME, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AND ADHERENCE TO, AGAIN, ADDITIONAL CONNECTIVITY LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND AREAS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A SMALL GEOGRAPHY IN THE, IN THE LARGER PART OF DUBLIN, BUT WITHIN THIS BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, THERE ARE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND DIFFERENT QUALITIES AND DIFFERENT CHARACTERS.
AND THE, AND YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CODE, THAT THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH BUILDING TYPES AND FORM AND TYPE OF DESIGN.
SO THAT'S PURPOSEFUL, RIGHT? THAT THERE'S NOT EVERY AREA IN THE CITY, UM, SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY, NOR SHOULD THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.
SO THE CODE ITSELF, UM, IF YOU LOOKED AT IT IN GREAT DETAIL,
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UM, IS REALLY TAKING SORT OF YOUR TRADITIONAL CONVENTIONAL ZONING CODE, WHICH IS VERY MUCH ABOUT USES.UM, AND, AND TAKING THAT AND KEEP RETAINING SOME OF THAT AND MAKING A HYBRID WITH FORM-BASED CODES, WE KIND OF TOOK TWO PIECES AND, AND PUT 'EM TOGETHER.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE USES AND 10 STATEMENT THAT YOU'D FIND IN A TRADITIONAL CODE.
SO IF SOMEBODY COMES AND SAYS THEY WANNA DO DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT USE PERMITTED, RIGHT? WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
BUT THEN IT REALLY FLIPS TO HOW DOES IT GET DEVELOPED? HOW DO YOU LAY OUT YOUR LOTS AND BLOCKS, YOUR STREETS, YOUR BUILDING TYPES? HOW DO THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD STANDARDS THAT I MENTIONED, HOW DO THOSE GET HOW SORT OF LAYERED ON TOP OPEN SPACE? UM, AND THEN AGAIN, GOING BACK TO SOME OF THAT CONVENTIONAL ZONING CODE.
SO PARKING, UM, SCREENING FENCES, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO THOSE, THOSE LEVELS OF DETAIL.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE REVIEW PROCESS.
SO THE CODE REALLY DOES A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO TAKE THE PIECES THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER TO CREATE THAT.
SO IN TERMS OF USES, UM, IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT, AS I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN WHEN YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT, UM, PERMITS MIXED USE IN ALL.
SO IT'S A MIX OF USES IN ALL THE DISTRICTS.
UM, TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, ZONING CODE IS VERY RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL TYPES OF USES PER YOUR DISTRICT.
SO IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, THAT'S REALLY LOOKING AT A MIX, UM, WITHIN ALL DISTRICTS, AND IT'S REALLY FOCUSING ON, UM, THE CHARACTER AND LAND USE, RIGHT? WHAT DO WE WANNA SEE THERE? AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, RIGHT, THERE'S THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS OR SORT OF DESIGN CHARACTER THAT COORDINATES WITH BUILDING TYPES.
UM, AND WHICH SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPES ARE PERMITTED WITH, WHICH, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE.
BUT WITHIN EACH OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO ACCOUNT FOR IN THE CODE FOR EXISTING USES.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT CHANGING.
SO AS PART OF THIS CODE THAT WAS A, WAS A BIG DISCUSSION IS HOW DO WE HELP EXISTING BUSINESSES AND USERS NOT HAVE TO NECESSARILY COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH BRIDGE STREET? 'CAUSE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE THAT'S VERY SUBURBAN AND, AND, UM, THOSE OWNERS WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE PROTECTED, UM, UNDER THE CODE.
AND THERE ARE ALLOWANCES IF, YOU KNOW, MODIFICATIONS NEED TO BE MADE, HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
UM, SO THE BRIDGE STREET CODE THEN STARTS TO LAY OUT.
SO ONCE YOU'VE DETERMINED YOUR USES, HOW ARE YOUR LOTS AND BLOCKS DETERMINED? SO THERE ARE DIMENSIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, AS YOU LAY OUT YOUR BLOCK, WHAT THAT MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM, YOU KNOW, DEFINITION SHOULD BE FOR THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCK AS WELL AS THE TOTAL PERIMETER.
SO THE WHOLE GOAL, RIGHT, IS TO BREAK THOSE DOWN INTO, UM, AREAS THAT FEEL WALKABLE, THAT ARE COMFORTABLE, SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING SORT OF A SUPER BLOCK THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NEVER GETTING TO THE END OF OR TO THE NEXT PIECE.
UM, SO THAT IS SUPPLEMENTED WITH, YOU KNOW, MID-BLOCK PEDESTRIAN WAYS.
SO RIGHT WHEN WE HAVE THOSE BIGGER BLOCKS, AND YOU SEE THAT IN BRIDGE PARK, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, OR TALLER FLATS WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ON A BLOCK THERE'S FOUR BUILDINGS, BUT THEN THERE IS, IT'S NOT A STREET CONNECTION, BUT A CONNECTION THAT YOU CAN PASS THROUGH TO THAT, UM, TO THE OTHER EITHER CONNECTING STREET.
AND THE WHOLE GOAL OF THAT IS TO SORT OF LIMIT HOW, HOW MANY ACCESS POINTS THERE ARE.
SO AGAIN, ON THOSE PRINCIPLE FRONTAGE STREETS, WHICH I'M SURE TINA WILL TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY LIMITING OUTRIGHT, HONESTLY EXCLUDING, UM, YOU KNOW, VEHICULAR ACCESS OTHER THAN WHERE THOSE LOTS AND BLOCKS ARE CREATED AGAIN, TO SORT OF, TO ENSURE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A LOT OF CONFLICT POINTS.
AND THAT ALSO HELPS TO FIND THOSE FRONT AND CORNER PROPERTY LINES, WHICH IS WHERE WE REALLY WANT BUILDINGS TO BE LOCATED, TO KEEP THAT STREET EDGE.
UM, STREET TYPES, I'LL, I'LL LET TINA TALK THROUGH THAT IN DETAIL, BUT IT REALLY IS LOOKING AT CREATING ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OVER TIME, RIGHT? SO WHEN DIFFERENT NEW BLOCKS COME IN, WE MAKE YOU PROVIDE THOSE STREET CONNECTIONS BECAUSE WE WANT THAT NETWORK TO BE BUILT OVER TIME.
UM, AND THE CODE INCLUDES THAT, THOSE REQUIRED STREET CONNECTIONS TO DO THAT.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, BUILDING TYPES, THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF BUILDING TYPES AND THEY ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT ATTENTION TO DETAIL SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THEY ALL INCLUDE A REQUIRED BUILD ZONE.
SO AGAIN, WITHIN A TRADITIONAL CODE, YOU HAVE A SETBACK WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, YOU HAVE A ZONE, DEPENDING ON YOUR FRONTAGE, WHERE YOUR BUILDING IS REQUIRED TO BE AND A PERCE AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR BUILDING HAS TO BE WITHIN THAT ZONE.
AGAIN, THE WHOLE POINT IS PULLING THOSE BUILDINGS UP TO THE STREET, UM, AND, AND OCCUPYING THAT SPACE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT, UM, THAN WE HAVE IN OUR TRADITIONAL ZONING CODE.
UM, THE LOTS AND BLOCKS HELP YOU DETERMINE, RIGHT, YOUR STREET FRONTAGES.
SO WHERE ARE THOSE? SO THAT RBZ, AS WE CALL IT, IS NOT ON EVERY FRONTAGE, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S REALLY THOSE FRONTS AND CORNERS, UM, AND REALLY WANTING TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
AND THE CHART, WHICH IS KIND OF HARD TO READ, BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPE, WHICH DISTRICTS THOSE ARE PERMITTED
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IN, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T WANT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED THAT'S ONLY PERMITTED OBVIOUSLY IN THE RESIDENTIAL, THE BSD RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.WE DON'T WANT THAT NECESSARILY IN EVERY DISTRICT.
UM, SAME WITH THE OTHER BUILDING TYPES.
SO THE CONSULTANT TEAM THAT HELPED US, UM, DO THIS REALLY HELPED TO IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE.
SO AGAIN, HERE'S JUST THE VARIOUS BUILDING TYPES, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CODE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE LITTLE CIRCLES WITH THE LETTERS AND THAT REALLY CORRESPONDS TO, I PICKED THIS MIXED USE BUILDING, SO IT CORRESPONDS TO A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT.
SO AGAIN, TRANSPARENCY, WHERE CAN YOUR, WHERE DOES YOUR BUILDING HAVE TO BE LOCATED SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SITING THAT RBZ, WHERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING TYPE BETWEEN ZERO AND 10 FEET, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR BUILDING LOCATED.
AND WITHIN THAT WE'RE SAYING 95% OF THAT RBZ HAS TO HAVE A BUILDING IN IT.
SO BASICALLY ONLY 5% CANNOT HAVE A BUILDING.
SO IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT HOW TO, AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DIAGRAMS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HOW THAT'S IMPLEMENTED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT FACADE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS WHERE YOUR BUILDING ENTRANCES ARE, HOW FAR THOSE NEED TO BE LOCATED FROM EACH OTHER, WHICH SORT OF, WHICH ULTIMATELY DETERMINES, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER, UM, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS.
SO THAT'S WITHIN THE BUILDING TYPE REQUIREMENTS, UM, WHAT THOSE STORY HEIGHTS ARE.
SO NOT JUST A NUMBER OF STORIES, BUT HOW TALL THOSE STORIES SHOULD BE.
AGAIN, THAT'S ALL GOING TO THAT CHARACTER.
UM, PIECE OF THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT TRANSPARENCY, UM, PARTICULARLY AT THAT GROUND STORY, RIGHT? WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT GROUND STORY TRANSPARENCY CONVERSATION THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR A PARTICULAR BUILDING, THE ONE THAT'S SHOWN HERE FOR THAT MIXED USE IS WANTING 75% OF THAT TO BE TRANSPARENT, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU'RE ON THE STREET, YOU CAN LOOK IN, SEE THE SPACE, INTERACT WITH THAT.
UM, IT'S NOT JUST A WALL OF BUILDING.
AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD STANDARDS, UM, WHICH ARE THEN SORT OF THAT EXTRA LEVEL OF DETAIL FOR CHARACTER, WHICH FOCUS ON THE FOUR THAT ARE IN THE CODE ARE THE INDIAN RUN NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THAT IS THAT OCLC AREA TWO 70.
UM, THEN WE HAVE THE HISTORIC TRANSITION, WHICH IS AS YOU'RE MOVING FROM 33 1 61 TOWARDS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT PARTICULAR AREA, CIO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD IS LARGELY THE BRIDGE PARK DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN SAWMILL CENTER IS MOVING THEN TOWARDS DUBLIN VILLAGE CENTER.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT THAT HELPS TO PROVIDE SOME MORE PLACEMAKING ELEMENTS IN THE CODE AND REALLY GIVE SOME, SOME MORE PARAMETERS OF THINGS WE'D LIKE TO SEE THERE, WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NODES OR ARCHITECTURAL GATEWAYS, THOSE TYPES OF FEATURES THAT ENHANCE THE CHARACTER THAT WE WANT SEE WITHIN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEN OPEN SPACE IS ANOTHER KEY COMPONENT, RIGHT? WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS URBAN DENSE ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE DON'T WANNA FORGET ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE.
SO, UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS YOU CAN MEET THAT WITH THE VARIOUS OPEN SPACE TYPES.
UM, AND THE CODE, YOU KNOW, HAS MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM SIZES FOR THE VARIOUS TYPES AND THEN GOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF AMENITIES WE WOULD WANNA SEE WITHIN THOSE PARTICULAR OPEN SPACES.
SO IT'S NOT JUST WE WANT OPEN SPACE, IT'S, WE WANNA PROVIDE MEANINGFUL, MEANINGFUL AREAS AND WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND A VARIETY OF THAT, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL SEE TOO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF BRIDGE STREET DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NOT JUST TYPICALLY ONE TYPE, THERE'S MULTIPLE TYPES.
SO HOW DO WE HELP? UM, THE CODE REALLY WANTS THAT TO PROVIDE THAT VARIETY.
AND THERE'S WALKABLE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS.
SO NOT JUST THAT IT'S PROVIDED, BUT IT HAS TO BE ACCESSIBLE, RIGHT? THAT IT'S NOT SO FAR AWAY YOU CAN'T GET TO IT.
AND AGAIN, IN OUR TYPICAL SORT OF SITE DEVELOPMENT, SO PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UM, WHICH IN BRIDGE STREET IS, IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS IN SOME INSTANCES FOR DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKING PLANS THAT COME BEFORE YOU.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE GOAL IS TO BE HAVING USES THAT OFFSET EACH OTHER, SO WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH PARKING AS MAYBE WOULD NEED IN A TRADITIONAL, UM, SETTING LANDSCAPING, SCREENING WALLS, FENCING SIGNS, ALL THOSE THINGS, WHICH AGAIN, YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
BUT AGAIN, SO THE CODE HAS ALLOWANCES FOR THAT.
IT DOES PROVIDE A LOT OF LEEWAY AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, UM, WHICH YOU SEE IN THE FORM OF WAIVERS.
SO AGAIN, OUR TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS SIMILAR, UM, TO A PUD WITH THE THREE STEPS, UM, WITHIN THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING FORWARD THAT AMENDMENT, MAKING THAT DETERMINATION, UH, ONLY A CONVERSATION.
UM, BUT AT THIS, BUT WE'LL KEEP THOSE SAME THREE STEPS.
BUT AGAIN, THE WAIVER PIECE OF THIS, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING AND PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT THAT IS INTENDED, THAT WAS REALLY, IT SOMETIMES FEELS LIKE PEOPLE ARE ASKING
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FOR AN EXCEPTION, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT IT'S INTENDED FOR.THE GOAL IS THAT THESE ARE THE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF MINIMUM STANDARDS WE WANNA SEE.
AND THEN THAT WAIVER IS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING ABOVE AND BEYOND, AND WE'RE GONNA ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT THROUGH THIS MECHANISM.
THERE'S CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE MET, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT REALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING CREATIVE DESIGN, UM, FORWARD AND, AND PUSH THE ENVELOPE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A BETTER DESIGN AND CREATE A MORE CREATIVE DISTRICT.
SO THE GOAL OF MAT WAIVER PROCESS IS REALLY, UM, REALLY A KEY COMPONENT.
YOU CANNOT GET A WAIVER TO USES THOUGH.
SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARD IN THE CODE, YOU COULD GET A WAIVER TO, BUT USE IS, IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THESE COUPLE SLIDES HERE, HOPEFULLY I HAVE 'EM IN THE RIGHT ORDER.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU HOW THE CODE KIND OF LAYERS ON TOP OF ITSELF.
UM, SO YOU HAVE A SITE, YOU HAVE YOUR LOTS AND BLOCKS, SO YOU'RE LAYING OUT WHAT YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE STREET CONNECTIONS ARE GONNA BE, SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN, YOU'RE IDENTIFYING WHERE YOUR PRINCIPAL FRONTAGE STREET IS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN IDENTIFYING, OKAY, AM I MAKING SURE THAT MY MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZE IS MET? SO IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, WE'VE PICKED A BRIDGE STREET RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THEN WHERE'S THAT SERVICE STREET OR ALLEY GONNA BE A POTENTIAL MIDBLOCK CROSSING.
SO YOU START TO SEE HOW ALL THESE PIECES LAYER ON EACH OTHER AND CREATE THOSE, THOSE BLOCKS AND, AND DEVELOPABLE AREAS SO LET'S SAY WE'RE GONNA PICK THESE THREE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND PUT THEM IN THOSE LITTLE PIECES.
SO WE HAVE TO PICK OUR FRONT AND OUR CORNER SIDE PROPERTY LINES, MAKING SURE OUR BUILDING IS LOCATED IN THAT RBZ.
HERE'S WHERE YOU WOULD SHOW THAT BUILDING.
THEN, UM, FOR A PARTICULAR, AGAIN, PRIORITIZING THAT FRONT BUILDING, UM, FRONT BUILDING LINE, BUT THEN YOU SEE IT'S ALSO IN THE CORNER AS WELL.
WE WANT PARKING TO BE LO ON STREET PARKING, BUT ALSO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SURFACE PARKING, YOU'RE GONNA PUT THAT TO THE REAR OF YOUR BUILDING.
WHERE MIGHT I PUT MY OPEN SPACE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? SO SHOWING THAT LOCATION, THEN AGAIN, PREVENTING A DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPE FOR THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT BLOCK.
AND THEN MAYBE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, ALL WITH ACCESS AND PARKING TO THE REAR.
SO THOSE STREET, THOSE MAIN PRINCIPLE FRONTAGE STREETS ARE OCCUPIED BY BUILDINGS.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE OPEN SPACE WHERE YOU, UM, COULD BE AS PART OF A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT, BUT LET'S SAY YOU'RE PART OF A LARGER, BIGGER PLAN.
SO YOU WANNA FILL IN THAT OPEN SPACE WITH ADDITIONAL BUILDING, AND THEN MAYBE YOU'RE PROVIDING A DIFFERENT PARK AREA AS PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS RIGHT, LIKE IT'S, IT'S YOU'RE TAKING EACH OF THESE PIECES AND THEY'RE BUILDING UPON EACH OTHER, UM, AND TO CREATE THAT, THAT URBAN FABRIC.
SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, OR IF YOU WANT TINA TO TALK THROUGH HER SLIDES AND TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.
AND THEN JUST, UH, TO THE COMMISSION, THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS.
WE WANNA HAVE MORE REGULARLY TO GET MORE FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX.
BUT ALSO WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE ONCE A YEAR MEETING.
THAT'S THE JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONS, THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS AND COUNCIL.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTRODUCE, HEY, WE, WE WANNA HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TRAINING SESSION OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO, UH, FEEDBACK IS APPRECIATED.
OKAY, I'LL LET TINA MAYBE GO NEXT AND THEN WE CAN TALK AFTER.
I'M TINA WASKOWITZ, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, UM, AND TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING ARE ALWAYS SO CLOSELY TIED TOGETHER AND WE'RE REALLY VERY, VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE, UM, A WONDERFUL WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH, UM, JENNY AND HER TEAM, ALL OUR PARTNERS IN PLANNING.
UM, AND THIS COMES THROUGH IN THIS BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT PLAN, AS WELL AS THE METRO PLAN AND, AND LOTS OF OTHER STUFF THAT
UM, SO IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, UM, TRANSPORTATION HAS REALLY BEEN WOVEN INTO THIS PROCESS ALONG THE WAY.
SO, UM, STARTING WITH THE VISION PLAN IN 2010 THAT ACTUALLY, UM, CONTEMPLATED THE GRIDED STREETS.
WE TOOK THAT, UM, AND PUT SOME NUMBERS TO IT.
AND, UH, THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THERE WITH A TRANSPORTATION REPORT, UM, WHICH GOT FOLDED RIGHT INTO THAT REZONING THAT, UM, JENNY TOUCHED ON.
AND THEN ALL OF THOSE PARTS AND PIECES WENT INTO THAT THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE IN 2013.
UM, AND OFF THE HEELS OF THAT, WE, UH, DID ANOTHER BIG TRANSPORTATION PLANNING STUDY, UM, THAT I'LL COME BACK TO IN A MOMENT.
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IT OR NOT, A 10 YEAR LOOK BACK, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY THIS WAS ALL HAPPENINGIT'S ALREADY A DECADE UNDER OUR BELT.
UM, SO I'M GONNA FOCUS ON THOSE TWO TRANSPORTATION STUDIES.
UM, AND THE LAST ONE THROUGH THE LENS OF THAT, UH, 10 YEAR LOOK BACK, THE STUDY IN 20 THAT WRAPPED UP IN 2012 DONE BY, UM, NELSON NYGARD SHOWED US THAT THAT GRID VISION, UM, THAT WE SAW IN THAT ORIGINAL CONCEPT, UM, REALLY DID WORK WHEN WE PUT NUMBERS BEHIND IT.
UM, SO WE FOUND THAT TWO LANE STREETS GENERALLY WORK, UM, ON THE INTERIOR OF THE DISTRICT, UM, AND MULTIPLE GRID CONNECTIONS ALLEVIATE CONGESTION, THE MULTI-MODAL OPTIONS, WALKING, BIKING, AND TRANSIT, ALL SUPPORT, UM, LOWER INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, NEEDS, AS WELL AS THAT MIX OF LAND USE, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THOSE TRIPS TO STAY SHORT.
UM, WHAT WE LOOKED AT THE, THE RIVER CROSSINGS, UM, AND STARTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IMPROVES THE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THOSE AREAS AND THE ACCESSIBILITY.
IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY ELIMINATE CONGESTION AT KEY AREAS, UM, BUT IT DOES REALLY HELP BRING THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER.
UM, AND THE STREET FAMILIES WERE CREATED, LIKE JENNY WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, JUST A MINUTE AGO.
SO THROUGH ALL THAT, WE, UM, WORKED WITH PLANNING TO REALIZE THAT WE DIDN'T NEED INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES IN THIS DISTRICT.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
THAT'S WHY AS WE PUT NUMBERS TO IT, WE UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTOOD HOW THE NETWORK WAS GONNA WORK, UM, AND THEN WE, UM, WERE ABLE TO BASICALLY STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT THROUGHOUT THAT ZONING CODE.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT TRANSPORTATION PLANNING STUDY, UM, THAT WE DID WAS REALLY LOOKING AT, OKAY, WELL, WE KNOW THAT, THAT WE GOT THERE TO THE, THAT LONGER TERM PROJECTION OF WHEN EVERYTHING WAS BUILT OUT, BUT HOW DO WE STEP THROUGH IT? HOW DO WE LIVE THROUGH THE GROWING PAINS BASICALLY OF GETTING THERE THROUGH, UM, BOTH LAND USE AND THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, UM, AND WANTING TO REASSURE OURSELVES, UM, OR UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, UM, TO GET THROUGH THAT WITHOUT INDIVIDUAL SITE, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES.
SO I'LL LOOK AT, UH, A COUPLE OF THE KEY FINDINGS FROM, FROM BOTH OF THOSE STUDIES.
UH, WALKABILITY, WHICH JENNY HAS ALREADY
UM, AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF THE SMALL LOTS AND BLOCKS AND THE WAY THOSE, THOSE DEVELOP.
WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE QUALITY AND THE ACCESS OF THOSE SIDEWALKS AND CONNECTIONS AND REALLY MAKING THAT, UM, THE FRONT DOOR OF, OF EVERY BUILDING AND MAKING IT CONNECT TO THE NEXT, RIGHT.
UM, TRYING TO AVOID ANY OF THOSE GAPS IN THE SYSTEM AND MAKE IT REALLY COMFORTABLE FOR FOLKS JUST TO GET AROUND ON THE, UH, ON THE STREETS AND THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, IT ALSO, UM, SPEAKS TO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON A COUPLE OF THE CASES TONIGHT, RIGHT? KEEPING THE SPEEDS LOW, KEEPING THOSE INDIVIDUAL STREET VOLUMES LOW, UM, MAKES THAT MORE A COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR A PEDESTRIAN AS WELL.
AND REALLY NARROWING THE STREETS AS OUR, UM, MAIN MECHANISM FOR SPEED COMPLIANCE.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT CAME OUTTA THAT FIRST STUDY WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE GRID.
UM, AND I WILL SAY, UH,
IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THIS GRID.
UM, AND THIS IS WHY THERE WERE BASICALLY TWO ROUTES HERE, UM, BEFORE THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, RIGHT? THE, UM, BRIDGE STREET ITSELF, 1 61 WEST DUBLIN GRANDVILLE ROAD, ALL THE NAMES FOR IT, UH, BASICALLY ONE ROUTE.
UH, AND THE OTHER ROUTE WAS, WAS TELLER ROAD.
AND THOSE WERE REALLY THE ONLY TWO TRUE THROUGH ROUTES, UM, PROVIDING ABOUT SIX LANES OF CAPACITY ALTOGETHER.
UM, WITH THE VISION OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, UM, WERE CREATING 32 LANES.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT CAPACITY, UM, REALLY ADDS UP, BUT IN SMALL PIECES SO THAT IT STAYS COMFORTABLE FOR ALL OF OUR USERS.
SO THIS IS WHY THE GRID IS SO IMPORTANT, AND THAT CAPACITY PIECE OF IT ONLY COMES TO FRUITION WHEN THE ENTIRE GRID IS CONNECTED.
SO, UM, WHEN WE, UH, SEE INDIVIDUALS, UH, APPLICATIONS COME IN, ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENT REQUESTS WE GET IS, WELL, DO WE HAVE TO BUILD THAT PIECE OF ROADWAY? DOES IT REALLY MATTER? IT'S 50 FEET, IT'S A HUNDRED FEET, YES, IT MATTERS.
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WALKING, BIKING, UM, IN EVERY MODE.THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE STARTED FIGURING OUT OUR PRINCIPAL FRONTAGE STREETS, LIKE JENNY WAS DISCUSSING IN THOSE STREET FAMILIES.
SO IT TURNS OUT THE WAY WE TALK ABOUT STREETS IS IMPORTANT, UM, AND THOSE STREET FAMILIES, UM, GIVE US THE RIGHT CONTEXT, AND THOSE ARE BUILT INTO BOTH THE CODE ITSELF.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE CARRIED THEM INTO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THE MULTIMODAL THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND ENVISION DUBLIN AS WELL.
SO THE OTHER STUDY, UM, IS THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WAS PERFORMED TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE TRANSITIONED FROM, UM, THE EXISTING CONDITION IN 20 13, 20 14 ISH, UM, THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, OF WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO BE THE FULL BUILD OF THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.
UM, SO AT THAT TIME, UM, 2015 WAS STILL IN THE FUTURE.
SO
UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS EMERALD PARKWAY DIDN'T EVEN CONNECT BACK THEN, IF YOU CAN REMEMBER THAT.
UM, UH, AND THAT RIVERSIDE DRIVE, UM, REALLY HUGGED THE RIVER, AND WE HADN'T PUSHED THAT AWAY TO, TO GAIN THAT PARKLAND YET.
SO SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE DONE EARLY ON IN THAT, UM, IN THE OVERALL TIMELINE.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A COUPLE OF EARLY DEVELOPMENT, UM, CONSTRUCTIONS OCCUR, RIGHT? THE, THE GRAND BLOCK Z UM, GRAYSTONE MUSE WAS ACTUALLY STILL, UH, WRAPPING UP AND, AND GETTING THOSE LAST UNITS, UM, COMPLETED.
WENDY'S EXPANDED, UH, CHANGED WHERE THEIR STORE WAS.
UM, AND THEN THAT HEARTLAND SITE, UH, ALSO OPENED IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
UH, AND I MENTIONED THOSE TWO INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES.
SO THEN THE, THE NEXT PHASE, UM, THAT WE EXPECTED BY ABOUT 2020, UM, HAD SOME MORE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, ANTICIPATED AT THAT TIME THAT WE DID THIS STUDY.
SO WHAT WE'VE FOUND THAT CAME TO FRUITION WAS THE LIBRARY REDEVELOPMENT BLOCKS A, B, C, AND D, UM, IN BRIDGE PARK TELLER FLATS, THE STATE BANK DOWN ON 1 61, UM, SUNRISE SKILLED NURSING ALL CAME, UM, TO FRUITION.
AND THEN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, WE ACTUALLY GOT A LITTLE BIT AHEAD, UM, ON SOME OF THESE PIECES.
SO JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY WAS, UH, CONSTRUCTED IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED.
THE ORDER FLIPPED AROUND A LITTLE BIT ON THE EAST END, UM, BUT A LOT OF THAT CAME, UM, INTO PLAY IN THIS PHASE.
UM, BRIDGE PARK AVENUE OBVIOUSLY GOT CONNECTED, UM, IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
DALE DRIVE GOT, UM, SORT OF STRAIGHTENED OUT AND CONNECTED MCCUNE AVENUE, UM, TOLER RIDGE DRIVE, AND ALL OF THOSE STREETS THAT KIND OF WERE INTEGRAL TO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAME IN, UM, UP ABOVE.
AND THEN WE ALSO SAW, UM, KIND OF, UH, A HEADSTART I'LL SAY ON WHAT WE EXPECTED BY 2025.
SO THE SPRING HILL SUITES, THE BOX SEA TOWN, UH, SORRY, YEAH, THE HOTEL, UM, THE BAILEY, WHICH HAS JUST SHIFTED OVER INTO THIS CONSTRUCTED
AND THEN A A COUPLE OF MORE KEY PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UM, MOODY STREET AND THEN BRIGHT ROAD BEING CUT OFF, UM, AND DISCONNECTED FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE WITH A CUL-DE-SAC.
SO WHAT WE FOUND IS WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING WHERE WE EXPECTED TO BE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND THE BUILD OUT SIDE, AND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, SO WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE PHASES.
UM, WE ARE, THE PIECES THAT WE'RE AHEAD ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ARE 14 AND 16 ON THIS SLIDE.
SO THAT PIECE OF JOHN SHIELDS PARKWAY WEST OF VILLAGE, UM, PARKWAY, AS WELL AS THAT FULL CONNECTION OF BRIDGE PARK AVE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS A, IS A GREAT CONNECTION HERE, UM, FROM RIVERSIDE ALL THE WAY TO SALMON MILL.
SO HOW, HOW ARE WE DOING? UM, WE LOOKED BACK AT OUR TRAFFIC COUNTS, UM, AND WE ARE, UH, DEFINITELY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE GRID AND DISTRIBUTING THE TRAFFIC.
UM, AND OUR PROJECTIONS WERE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, UM, THAN OUR COUNTS, SO WE'RE DOING GOOD.
WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE NOT OUTGROWN OUR PROJECTIONS, BASICALLY
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UM, SO LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME DIFFERENT TURNING MOVEMENTS, SOME DIFFERENT PATTERNS KIND OF FLIPPED AROUND, BUT OVERALL, THESE KEY INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED AROUND ALONG BRIDGE STREET AND UM, RIVERSIDE DRIVE ARE ALL, UM, THE GROUND COUNTS ARE ALL SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHERE WE PROJECTED THEM TO BE, UM, IN LINE WITH THAT STUDY.SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
UM, FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE, WE CONTINUE TO, TO BUILD ON OUR MULTIMODAL NETWORK AND OUR TRANSIT TO SUPPORT, UM, THE LOWER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, UM, FOR THE VEHICULAR SIDE, WHICH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, TENDS TO BE THE MORE COSTLY ONE AND, UM, WANT TO, TO, TO REALLY SHARE THOSE MODES, SPREAD THAT, UM, LOAD ACROSS THE, THE NETWORK.
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR GET INTO ANY MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
I WAS TELLING, UM, ZACH AND JENNY, I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT, SO YOU MAY HAVE TO PULL ME AWAY.
YEAH, SO JUST, I MEAN, AGAIN, IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO THE PLANNING ZONING PIECE OR TINA'S PART, OR IF WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S FURTHER DEEP DIVE OF INFORMATION AT A FUTURE MEETING, HAPPY TO DO ANY AND ALL OF THAT, THAT HELPS YOU ALL.
MR. CHINO? YEAH, JUST BY THIS GRAPH, THIS GRAPHIC IS REALLY INTERESTING.
IS THIS JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY NOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE REST OF THE CITY.
IS THAT, IS THERE, IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF, ARE THE PROJECTIONS DOWN CITYWIDE OR JUST FOR THIS AREA IS OUTTA CURIOSITY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, NATIONWIDE, THERE WAS A DIP IN VOLUMES, UM, DURING THE CI PERIOD, RIGHT, WHERE PEOPLE WEREN'T DRIVING TO WORK.
AND THEN, UM, PARTICULARLY THOSE PEAK HOURS.
SO WHAT WE SEE HISTORICALLY IS THAT EIGHT TO 9:00 AM AND THE FOUR TO 5:00 PM 4 30, 5 30, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THOSE A M PEAK PM M PEAKS ARE TRADITIONALLY VERY PRONOUNCED.
SO WHAT WE SAW WITH COVID IS THAT THOSE PEAKS FLATTENED OUT AND THE WHOLE DAILY VOLUMES DROPPED ACROSS OUR SYSTEM.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS THAT THAT IS BACK ON THE RISE, UM, AND CONTINUES TO GROW.
UM, WE HAVE BASICALLY C CAUGHT UP WITH, WITH, UM, TRAFFIC GROWTH ACROSS THE NETWORK.
WE STILL ENJOY A LITTLE BIT OF A REDUCTION ON THOSE PEAKS, UM, BECAUSE I THINK EMPLOYERS HAVE IMPLEMENTED MORE HYBRID WORK, MORE OPTIONS, UM, FOR COMING AND GOING.
SO THOSE REALLY HIGH COMMUTER PEAKS HAVE COME DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND THAT OVERALL GRAPH IS A LITTLE MORE ROUNDED, WHICH IS, IS GOOD FOR THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, MR. DISHER? I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHEN'S THE JOHN SHIELDS BRIDGE GONNA BE DONE? WE HAVE INVESTIGATED THOSE ALIGNMENTS AND TAKEN A LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE TYPE.
UM, I WANNA SAY MAYBE AROUND 2016 OR SO, THOSE INITIAL, UM, STUDIES WERE DONE AND WE HAVE, UM, PROGRAMMED THAT IN FUTURE YEARS IN THE CIP, BUT IT HASN'T, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION YEAR HASN'T FALLEN INTO THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW YET.
IS IT FAIR TO ASSUME THAT THE BRIDGE OVER TWO 70 IS GONNA BE DONE BEFORE JOHN SHIELDS AND I MEAN FOR MOUNT CARMEL? SO THAT'S THE EMERALD CONNECTOR PROJECT.
UM, WOULD, WOULD BE EXTENDING VILLAGE PARKWAY UP TO EMERALD PARKWAY.
WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEKING FUNDING FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A FULL FUNDING PACKAGE, SO WE DON'T HAVE A YEAR, UM, DESIGNATED FOR THAT.
IN TERMS OF STUDY AND DESIGN, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD.
UM, THAT ONE HAS THE INITIAL, UM, BASICALLY ONE ONE EXTRA LEVEL OF, OF DETAILED DESIGN.
IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOT, STILL GOT A WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE'RE EVEN, UM, THROUGH THE DETAILED DESIGN.
BUT WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADSTART ON DETAILED DESIGN FOR THE EMERALD CONNECTOR, UM, VERSUS THE STRUCTURE TYPE STUDY ON THE, UM, JOHN SHIELDS RIVER CROSSING.
MR. ALEXANDER, I HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL QUESTION FOR YOU, JENNY.
WHEN THE CODE WAS WRITTEN, WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT, BECAUSE THE CODE ALLOWS BUILDINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT TYPES BE ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER ON THE STREET AND HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS, WHEREAS SOME TRADITIONAL COMMUNITIES, YOU LOOK AT THE STREET FIRST AND THEN THE BUILDING TYPE
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BEYOND YOU ESTABLISH HEIGHTS FOR BUILDINGS, YOU COULD ESTABLISH MEZZANINE LEVEL, YOU STILL MIGHT HAVE THAT 20 TO 80, BUT IT, IT EMPHASIZES THE PUBLIC REALM VERSUS THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDING.WAS THERE ANY, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE IN MORE TRADITIONAL COMMUNITIES, EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT? BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN PLACES LIKE BRIDGE PARK WHERE YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF NEW PROJECTS, YOU COULD CREATE, CREATE GREATER CONTINUITY AND APPROACH LIKE THAT A LITTLE BIT HARDER WHERE YOU'RE FITTING THINGS IN WHEN YOU HAVE EXISTING SORT OF QUASI SUBURBAN BUILDINGS, ARE YOU TALKING LIKE HOMOGENEOUS, LIKE IT ALL JUST KIND OF BLENDS TOGETHER AND LOOKS THE SAME? NOT THERE ARE PLACES FOR INDIVIDUALITY, SO THERE'RE PLACES FOR INDIVIDUALITY IN IT.
SO IT, IT'S, BUT THERE'S MORE CONTINUITY THAN WHAT WE SEE AND THE EMPHASIS IS ON THE STREET VERSUS THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDING.
WAS THAT AT ALL DISCUSSED WITH YOUR PLANNING CONSULTANTS? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND SEE HOW THAT WAS ESTABLISHED.
I MEAN, THE CODE REALLY DOES TALK ABOUT COMPATIBLE BUILDING TYPES, RIGHT? SO I THINK THE GOAL WAS WANTING TO ALLOW THAT FLEXIBILITY.
I MEAN THERE'S SOME THAT WE DEFINITELY DON'T IN THE CODE DON'T, THAT DON'T WANNA BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
UM, BUT THERE IS INTENDED TO BE SOME SYNERGY AMONGST THE ONES THAT ARE.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND TO THAT, BUT I CAN ASK.
YEAH, IT'S AN INTERESTING, I'M POINT THOUGH, IMPLEMENT IT MM-HMM
BUT IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF APPROACHING MM-HMM
BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS MORE ON THE STREET, UM, YEAH, THOSE ARE WAYS TO, THAT'S A WAY TO DO IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, MS. HARDER? I SAID, UH, COUPLE.
FIRST OF ALL, I, UH, JENNY, I DID LIKE THE OVERLAYS.
I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO, AND I KEEP US ALONG AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT TINA, ABOUT, UM, SAFETY TOO.
SO WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS HAPPENING, BRIDGE STREET, HOW DID YOU TALK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND UH, TALKING ABOUT LITTLE ROADS AND SO FORTH AND SAFETY? YEAH, WE, UM, ARE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT SAFETY IN THE FOREFRONT.
UM, AND, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WALKABILITY, HOW TO MAKE THAT COMFORTABLE AND SAFE FOR PEDESTRIAN.
UM, AND NARROWING STREETS IS, IS, LIKE I SAID, ONE OF OUR MAIN TOOLS, UM, TO GET DRIVERS TO COMPLY, UM, WITH LOWER SPEED LIMITS.
SO WE DO, UM, FOLLOW THE MINIMUM FIRE CODE, UM, AND THE MINIMUM LANE WIDTH.
UM, THEY ARE IN ON THE REVIEWS WHEN A CASE COMES INTO PLANNING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN SERVE THAT, UM, LAND USE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, GET THEIR EQUIPMENT IN OR SPRINKLE OR WHATEVER IT IS THEY NEED TO DO FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE.
THANKS MR. MAY I, I JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG AT ALL, BUT I DON'T THINK I AM.
SO AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS, WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY PLAN NOW WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AS I REMEMBER, THERE'S A CHART THAT PLOTS OUT EVERY ROAD IMPROVEMENT OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
IT KIND OF PUTS IT INTO A SEQUENCE, IS THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, IT LISTS ALL THE PROJECTS AND IT HAS THE YEAR THAT THEY MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED, THAT THEY MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED.
DEPENDING ON FUNDING AND, AND PRIORITIES.
BUT I, I FOUND THAT JUST REALLY INS REALLY INTERESTING.
AND, AND BACK TO THE QUESTION, WHEN IS SOMETHING GONNA BE BUILT? I KNOW IT'S, IT'S A GUIDE
AS WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT AT PROJECTS.
AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, STAFF'S GONNA HIGHLIGHT ALL THAT IN EVERY CASE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO AND LOOK OUT WHAT'S THE PROJECTION FOR DIFFERENT ROADWAYS, THAT'S A GOOD SOURCE, RICHARD.
UM, AND AGAIN, IF THE COMMISSION SEES OPPORTUNITIES WHERE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, PLEASE COMMUNICATE.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER ITEM, UH, WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT SCHEDULE WAS IN DECEMBER.
UM, I AM GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN FOR A FEW WEEKS AND SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE PROGRAMMED TO ONLY HAVE, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO OUR CALENDARS, ONE MEETING IN MARCH ON THE EIGHTH.
I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN FROM FEBRUARY THE 20TH THROUGH MARCH THE EIGHTH.
SO I WOULD MISS BOTH OF THOSE MEETINGS.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA BRING BACK DATES IN MARCH TO KIND OF LOOK AT EVERYONE'S SCHEDULES.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY OR IF THERE'S DESIRE.
I AM ONE OF SEVEN, SO OBVIOUSLY THE MEETING CAN GO ON JUST FINE WITHOUT ME.
MR. WADE WOULD HAVE HIS INAUGURAL, BUT, BUT WHO'S GONNA GAVEL THIS OUT? I KNOW.
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I CAN'T, I GOTTA KEEP, YOU'D HAVE TO DO DOUBLE DUTY, I SUPPOSEYEAH, SO THAT IS AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE.
WE MAY HAVE TO DO WITHOUT YOU 'CAUSE THERE'S STATE OF THE CITY IS THE 13TH, BZA IS THE 20TH, AND SPRING BREAK IS THE 27TH.
SO WE WERE, WE WERE SORT OF HEMMED IN.
IT'S MORE LIKE THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS ROOM IS THE ISSUE.
SO, UM, BUT WE CAN, IS ANYBODY ELSE GONNA MISS THAT MEETING ON THE SIXTH? EVERYBODY ELSE AVAILABLE? UH, I THINK I COME BACK ON THE EIGHTH.
YOU SAID, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THE MEETINGS ON THE SIXTH.
YEAH, AND I'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED WITH THE LIAISON FROM CITY COUNCIL, SO THEY'RE AWARE THAT I'M GOING TO BE OUT.
WE'LL PROBABLY JUST HAVE TO DO OUT FIRST ONE.
SO FEBRUARY 20TH IS A THURSDAY.
I LEAVE ON A THURSDAY AND THAT WAS UNAVOIDABLE.
I HAVE TO BE IN AUSTRIA ON FRIDAY FOR A SITE TOUR.
SO CAN, UNLESS THERE'S THE CONCORD COMES BACK, I HAVE TO LEAVE ON THE 20TH OR ALL RIGHT,
UM, SO IF THOSE COULD BE BROUGHT BACK, EVEN IF I'M NOT HERE FOR THE MEETING, IF WE CAN BRING BACK DATES FOR THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW.
UM, I'LL, KIM I'LL GIVE YOU MY MAY DATE THAT I'M GONNA BE IN PERU JUST FOR, IF I'M NOT HERE DURING THE MEETING.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SCHEDULE, AGAIN, I'M ONE SO I DON'T MISS MEETINGS VERY OFTEN.
THE FACT THAT I MISS THREE IN A YEAR IS LIKE ALRIGHT.
ANY OTHER COMMUNICATIONS FROM STAFF OR FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.