[CALL TO ORDER]
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OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE? MAYOR AROSE GROOMS. HERE.
[ADJOURNMENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]
OKAY.I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSIDERING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION RELATED TO A REQUEST FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ASCENT ASSISTANCE THAT INVOLVES PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO HIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND WITH EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE POSSIBLE INVESTMENT OR EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO BE MADE IN CONNECTION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND PERSONNEL MATTERS CONSIDERING THE APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES.
WE'LL RECONVENE IN THIS LOCATION AT 7:00 PM OKAY.
[RECONVENE (7 P.M.)]
WILL RECONVENE THE MONDAY, JUNE 3RD, 2024 REGULAR DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CRAM, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THE, OKAY.THIS BRINGS US TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.
IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.
AS A REMINDER, WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE SIGN IN ON THE KIOSKS JUST OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER AND WE WILL RECOGNIZE YOU TO PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
LINDSAY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGN IN TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.IS THERE A REQUEST TO REMOVE ANY ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTING OF THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 13TH, 20, UH, MAY 20TH AND, UM, LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY FOR A D FIVE J AND D SIX LIQUOR PERMIT? HEARING NONE, UH, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. REINER? YES.
[Ordinance 09-24]
SECOND, READING, PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCES ORDINANCE ZERO NINE DASH 24 AUTHORIZING A MODIFICATION TO THE CITY'S DEBT POLICY AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE FROM MATT STIFFLER.GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE SINCE THE FIRST HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS ORDINANCE? HEARING NONE.
COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MAYOR AROSE GROOMS? YES.
[Ordinance 10-24]
DASH 24 AUTHORIZING A MODIFICATION TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND POLICY AND THE STAFF REPORT AGAIN, WILL BE FROM MR. MATT STIFFLER ONCE AGAIN.WE HAVE NO CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE SINCE THE FIRST READING.
IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PRESENT PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS ORDINANCE? HEARING NONE.
COUNSEL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MS. OSA? YES.
[Ordinance 11-24]
24 AUTHORIZING A MODIFICATION TO THE CITY'S INVESTMENT POLICY.OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE FROM MR. MATT STIFFLER FOR THE THIRD OUT OF FOUR TIMES.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES SINCE THE FIRST HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS ORDINANCE? HEARING NONE.
COUNSEL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL A ROLE MS. CRAM? YES.
[Ordinance 12-24]
12 DASH 24 ADOPTING THE PROPOSED TAX BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 SURROUNDING THIRD.OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE FOR MATT STIFFLER.
ONCE AGAIN, THERE ARE NO CHANGES SINCE THE FIRST HEARING.
AND IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS ORDINANCE? HEARING NONE.
COUNSEL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULE MS. FOX? YES.
[Ordinance 13-24]
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13 DASH 24 AMENDING THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE FROM MATT STIFFLER.
GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
WE HAVE SOME NEW MATERIAL FOR THIS EVENING.
UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF APPROPRIATIONS PERTAINING TO CAPITAL ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED, UH, IN THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, THE MEMO ACCOMPANYING THE OR ORDINANCE, UH, SPECIFIES THE DETAILS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS ORDINANCE? HEARING NONE COUNSEL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.
IT WAS UNDER SECTION THREE AND I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE VERY LAST SENTENCE OF THAT SAYS THAT AN ADDITIONAL 400,000 IN PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES TO COORDINATE THIS PROJECT WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK.
D WHAT, WHAT IS THAT PRO? WHAT IS THIS PROJECT? IS THIS SECTION? THIS? SURE.
SO THIS IS, UH, THE ATCH PROJECT, THE NORTHERN HISTORIC DUBLIN AREA IMPROVEMENTS, THE $1.12 MILLION BUDGET, COORDINATED THE DESIGN OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT DID NOT INCORPORATE HOW THE PARK AND THAT AREA WOULD INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARK THAT ARE ONGOING.
SO THIS INCREASES TO ALLOW THE PARK AND THIS PROJECT TO BE BETTER COORDINATED AND I'M HAPPY TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE SECOND HEARING.
I WAS JUST CONFUSED 'CAUSE IT CAME RIGHT AFTER TALKING ABOUT THE BRIGHT ROAD CORRIDOR AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED.
SO THE BRIGHT ROAD CORRIDOR WAS JUST REFERENCING THE FUNDING CHANGE IN THE FIRST QUARTER SUPPLEMENTAL.
WE MOVED THE FUNDING FROM FUND 4 0 1 TO FUND 4 0 4 FOR BRIGHT ROAD.
AT THAT TIME, WE LIKELY SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THIS CHANGE AS WELL 'CAUSE THEY'RE BOTH MAKING THE SAME MOVEMENT, BUT IT WAS NOT INCLUDED.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S INCLUDED HERE IN THIS SUPPLEMENTAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MATT? MM-HMM.
SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR JUNE THE 17TH, ORDINANCE
[Ordinance 14-24]
14 DASH 24 VACATING 0.223 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF DAN CHERRY AVENUE AS A PUBLIC ROAD IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN, COUNTY OF FRANKLIN, STATE OF OHIO.AND CONVEYING AND COMBINING THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE VACATED PROPERTY WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER 2 7 4 0 0 0 0 4 9 0 0 OWNED BY R THOMAS LOWE AND CONVEYING AND COMBINING THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE VACATED PROPERTY WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER 2 7 4 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0.
OWNED BY RALPH STEVEN MARCUS, AND CASSANDRA MARCUS CO-TRUSTEES OF THE S AND K LIVING TRUST.
OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE FROM OUR ASSISTANT LAW DIRECTOR, PHIL HARTMAN.
TONIGHT IS THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 1424.
THIS ORDINANCE IS, UH, REQUIRED TO FINALIZE AN AGREEMENT UPON SETTLEMENT FOR AN EMINENT DOMAIN MATTER AGAINST THE MARCUSES THAT ACTUALLY BEGAN IN 2007.
UM, AS PART OF THE SETTLEMENT OUTLINED IN THE JUDGMENT ENTRY FROM THE COURT, UH, THE MARCUSES ARE ENTITLED TO, UH, GET A PORTION OF THE DEAD END OF DAN SHERRY AND WE WILL HAVE TO VACATE THAT TO DO THAT.
SO WE NEED COUNSEL ACTION TO DO, UH, FINALIZE THAT PRIOR TO THE MARCUS'S, UH, LET ME STEP BACK.
THE MARCUS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF AVERY ROAD IN DAN, SHERRY.
IT'S IN BETWEEN AND NORTH OF KENDALL RIDGE AND SOUTH OF TUSS.
WELL, THE ROUNDABOUT THIS IS TAKING, UH, WAS PART OF THE AVERY ROAD WIDENING PROJECT.
IF YOU RECALL, AFTER FIVE YEARS OF LITIGATION, THE PARTIES AGREED AND THE COURT AGREED TO ALLOW, UH, DAN SHERRY, WHICH IS A DEAD ENDING HAMMERHEAD RIGHT OFF OF AVERY ROAD TO BE VACATED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS SINCE BOTH OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS USED AND SHERRY TO EXIT ONTO AVERY ROAD.
SO TODAY WE'RE HERE TO FINALIZE THIS.
THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH A REZONING AND COMPLETED THAT BEFORE WE HAD TO VACATE.
SO THAT THIS IS JUST THE FINAL STEP IN A LONG PROCESS.
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS LEGISLATION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION, HEARING NONE.
SECOND READING WILL, UH, BE HELD SCHEDULED FOR JUNE THE 17TH.
INTRODUCTION, PUBLIC HEARING VOTE RESOLUTION RESOLUTION 18, I'M SORRY.
[Resolution 28-24]
28 DASH 24 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A LETTER OF AGREEMENT WITH THE OHIO POWER COMPANY TO RELOCATE ELECTRIC POLES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE WEST SHARED USE PATH PROJECT.AND OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING WILL BE FROM BRIAN GABLE.
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MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING AS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A LETTER OF AGREEMENT WITH THE OHIO POWER COMPANY AS PART OF THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE WEST SHARED USE PATH PROJECT.THE OHIO POWER COMPANY DOING BUSINESS AS A EP OHIO HAS ALREADY REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED THE LETTER OF AGREEMENT PROVIDED WITH THE STAFF REPORT STAFF HAS FINALIZED THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT IN 2023 AND IT HAS BEEN AWAITING APS RELOCATION TO COMMENCE PRIOR TO BIDDING THE PROJECT.
STAFF ANTICIPATES BIDDING, UH, TO BEGIN EARLY THIS FALL FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 2025.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 28 DASH 24 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A LETTER OF AGREEMENT WITH THE OHIO POWER COMPANY.
I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION.
IS THERE, UH, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS RESOLUTION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. REINER? YES.
[Resolution 29-24]
DASH 24 TO EXTEND THE MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM AND TO PERMIT THE OPERATION OF LOW SPEED MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES ON LOW SPEED STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND SHARED USE PATHS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 12 MONTH PERIOD.OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING WILL BE FROM JM RAYBURN.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS RESOLUTION 29 24, WHICH WILL EXTEND THE MICRO ABILITY PILOT FOR ADDITIONAL 12 MONTHS IN THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION.
I'LL GO OVER THE PILOT HOW IT PERFORMED TO DATE AND THEN TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AS WE THEN REVIEW THE POST PILOT SURVEY AND THEN PRESENT CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU RECALL, PHASE ONE WAS LAUNCHED ON MAY 1ST, 2022 VIA RESOLUTION 1822.
AND PHASE ONE IS NOTATED IN THE PURPLE OUTLINED AREA, MOSTLY WITHIN I TWO 70.
PHASE TWO EXPANDED THE PROGRAM VIA RESOLUTION 42 23 AND THAT WAS TO EXPAND THE PILOT CITYWIDE AS WELL AS INCORPORATE MORE OPERATIONAL PARAMETERS TO HELP WITH THE SAFETY AND EASE OF THE PROGRAM.
THESE INCLUDE RESTRICTING SCOOTERS FROM RIDING IN BIKE LANES AND ROADWAYS OVER 25 MILES PER HOUR, AS WELL AS INSTALLATION OF GLOW PAVERS AT THE JOHN WRIGHT SURFACE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM THE PILOT, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, IN THE GRAY BAR IS 2024 YEAR TO DATE, THE ORANGE IS 2023 AND THE BLUE IS 20 20 20 IS UH, 2022, EXCUSE ME.
AND WHAT WE SEE OVER THE YEARS IS THAT DEMAND FOR RIDING MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES CONTINUES TO GROW IN DUBLIN EVEN DURING THE COLD WEATHER MONTHS.
BIRD SCOOTERS SKIPPED HIBERNATION DURING THE 2023 TO 2024 WINTER SEASON DUE TO HIGH RIDERSHIP COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS WHEN OPERATIONS TYPICALLY PAUSED FROM LATE NOVEMBER AND RESUMED AT THE END OF MARCH.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A LOT OF, WE HAD THE MOST MILES TRAVELED IN 2022.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN 2023, WHILE THE TOTAL MILES DID DECREASE, WE SEE MORE RIDES ACTUALLY OCCURRED.
AND WHAT THE DATA IS SHOWING US THAT THE SCOOTERS ARE FILLING THE GAP BETWEEN ONE TO TWO MILE, UH, TRIPS THAT ARE HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, SO THAT'S INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE DATA IS TELLING US HOW THE USE IS HAPPENING WITH SOME OF THE RIDERS.
IN TERMS OF 2023, SINCE WE DID NOT GO INTO HIBERNATION, WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A HEADSTART IN TERMS OF THE RIDERSHIP.
SO TO DATE, IN THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS, WE SAW 905 UNIQUE RIDERS TAKE 1,532 RIDES FOR A TOTAL OF 3,121 MILES, UH, IN THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS.
THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE RIDES THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE DUBLIN COMMUNITY.
WE SEE RIDES ARE OCCURRING IN THE BUSINESS BUSINESS DISTRICTS AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOODS.
MICRO MOBILITY OPTIONS ARE CRUCIAL TO THE PROSPERITY OF AFGHAN DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.
AS NOTED, NOTED IN THE 2023 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
IN SHORT, PROVIDING CONNECTIONS THROUGH MICRO MOBILITY ARE IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO JOBS AND HOUSING, ALLOWING ALL RESIDENTS AND WORKFORCE, REGARDLESS OF ECONOMIC STATUS TO BE MOVED CLOSER TO A VARIETY OF DESTINATIONS.
AS WE'RE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES MOVING FORWARD FOR THE PROGRAM, A NATIONWIDE BEST PRACTICE IS TO INCORPORATE AN ANNUAL MICRO MOBILITY OPERATOR PERMIT FOR OPERATORS WISHING TO PLACE THEIR DEVICES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
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OPERATING PERMIT CONCEPT STAFF PLANS TO INCLUDE THE, THE CONCEPT OF AN ANNUAL MICRO MOBILITY OPERATING FEE IN A FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE COST STUDY PERFORMED BY FINANCE.FURTHERMORE, STAFF IS COURTING WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS ON DEVELOPING A REGIONAL RFP FOR MICRO MOBILITY AS WELL AS BIKE, SHARED BIKE OR RENTABLE BIKE SERVICES AS A BIKE SHARE.
UM, AND WE WILL BE LOOKING TO INCORPORATE AN OPERATING PERMIT AS THE PART OF THE TERMS FOR A SUCCESSFUL OPERATOR WORKING WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS ON THAT.
AND DUBLIN STAFF WILL REMAIN INVOLVED THROUGH THE OPERATOR SELECTION PROCESS THAT COLUMBUS IS UH, UNDERTAKING.
SIMILARLY, STAFF IS ALSO ACCORDING WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS ON INCLUDING ENHANCED PARKING COMPLIANCE MEASURES IN THE RFP, RECOGNIZING THAT SOME CURRENT CHALLENGES WITH THE CURRENT OPERATOR EXIST.
AND WE HOPE THAT SOME OF THESE NEW PARKING COMPLIANCE, UH, MEASURES SUCH AS REQUIRING A LOCK TO CITY INFRASTRUCTURE COULD HELP FURTHER, UM, WITH FURTHER, UH, FURTHERING PARKING COMPLIANCE.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD MEAN, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO PARK A SCOOTER ON CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, SUCH AS BIKE RACKS.
UM, BUT WE WOULD NOT WANT PEOPLE TO PARK THESE OR LOCK THEM TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OR OTHER AREAS SUCH AS BUS SHELTERS OR SIGNPOSTS AND TREES OF THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE DID, UH, PUBLISH A POST PILOT SURVEY TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE OPINIONS AND FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO MICRO MOBILITY.
35 RESPONDENTS COMPLETED THE POST PILOT SURVEY AND THESE INCLUDED RESIDENTS AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE WORKFORCE AND VISITORS TO DUBLIN.
OF ALL THE RESPONDENTS, ALL BUT ONE HAS HAD EXPERIENCES WITH SCOOTERS IN DUBLIN, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE FEEDBACK INCLUDE BETTER PARKING OR MORE PARKING LOCATIONS AND RIDE REQUIREMENTS.
SOME OF THE RESPONDENTS WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE SCOOTERS ALTOGETHER.
OTHERS SAID THAT SCOOTERS ARE BEST, UH, TO AVOID SIDEWALKS OR OTHER AREAS THAT COULD BE A HINDRANCE FOR PEDESTRIANS.
OTHER RESPONDENTS SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE MORE SCOOTER AVAILABILITY AS WELL AS MORE REBALANCING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN LONG, UH, THE LAST KIND OF BUCKET, IF YOU WILL, IS THERE RESPONDENTS THAT DO SUPPORT A VARIETY OF TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, INCLUDING MICRO MOBILITY AS AS PART OF THE PILOT.
CONTINUING WITH THE SURVEY, WE ASKED ARE THERE OTHER MOBILITY OPTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT IN DUBLIN? GENERAL SUPPORT WAS NOTED FOR VARIOUS MODES OF TRANSPORTATION RESPONDENTS IDENTIFIED WALKING AS WELL AS BIKING AND MORE TRANSIT OPTIONS, INCLUDING TRAINS AS THINGS THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE OR NOW.
OTHER THOUGHTS? WE ASKED AS PART OF THE SURVEY, WE DID RE RECEIVE RESPONSES THAT SOME RESPONSES WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE MICRO MOBILITY CITYWIDE.
OTHERS HAVE NOT NOTED BETTER ORGANIZATION OF THE SCOOTERS WHEN THEY'RE PARKED.
AND THEN A FEW RESPONDENTS ALSO SAID BANNING SCOOTERS IS, WAS, WAS WHAT THEIR PREFERENCE WOULD BE.
OTHER THOUGHTS INCLUDE WALKING.
THAT WAS AGAIN MENTIONED, UH, NUMEROUS TIMES.
UM, BUT THE LONG STORY SHORT IS THE MORE MOBILITY OPTIONS THE BETTER WAS, UM, ANOTHER OBSERVATION FROM THE RESPONDENTS OF THE SURVEY.
SO WHILE THERE HAVE BEEN OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED DURING THE COURSE OF THE MICRO REALTY PROGRAM, UM, PILOT PHASES BASED ON INCREASED RIDERSHIP THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE DATA, AS WELL AS THE COVERAGE AREA THAT WE SAW FROM THE RIDERS WHO DID USE THE SCOOTERS OVER THE PAST YEAR OR TWO, UM, WE DO SEE THAT THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS AS WELL AS ASSOCIATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS.
UM, AND SO STAFF DOES VIEW THE PILOT OVERALL AS A SUCCESS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM, AN EXTENSION TO ALLOW MICRO OR LOW SPEED MICRO REAL DEVICES SUCH AS BIRDIE SCOOTERS ON STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
AND SURE PATH IS NECESSARY ONCE AGAIN.
SO DURING THIS TIME, DURING EXTENSION, STAFF WILL DRAFT MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING CODE, TO PERMANENTLY PERMIT THE OPERATION OF LOW SPEED VEHICLES, UH, LOW SPEED MOBIL, UH, MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES IN DUBLIN.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS GIVEN THE SUCCESS OF THE DEMONSTRATION PILOT, WE PROPOSE A FOLLOWING NEXT STEPS AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ADOPTING RESOLUTION 29 24, AS WELL AS DIRECTING STAFF TOWARDS THE CODE MODIFICATIONS AND WITH A REFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC, A REFERRAL TO THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE AS WELL AS OTHER, UH, POTENTIAL MODELS SUCH AS THE FEE AND LOCKING MECHANISMS. THANK YOU.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS RESOLUTION? HEARING NONE COUNCIL QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, ON SLIDE SEVEN THERE'S A COMMENT ABOUT REVENUES COULD BE USED TOWARDS
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SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE.SO HOW DOES, HOW DOES THE REVENUE WORK? THE CITY RECEIVES REVENUES FROM THIS OR, OKAY, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ONE MODEL THAT WE'VE, THAT WE HAVE STUDIED IS OUR NEIGHBOR COLUMBUS, THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL FEE THAT I OPERATORS MUST PAY ON TOP OF A PER SCOOTER FEE ANNUALLY.
SO WE WOULD INVESTIGATE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IN DUBLIN, AND IF SO, WHAT WOULD THAT FEE BE? SO, SO FAR THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY.
UM, AND THEN THE YEAR TO DATE RIDERSHIP IS, UH, ONLY 1,532 COMPARED WITH 7,554 THE YEAR BEFORE, BUT IT'S SEASONAL, RIGHT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, WE'RE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS DATA IS THROUGH.
SO IS IT END OF APRIL? END OF MAY.
SO THIS YEAR IT'S, WE HAD RIDES IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH AND APRIL.
UM, AND THAT'S UNIQUE COMPARED TO YEARS PREVIOUSLY IN 2023 AND 2024.
SO THE REASON WHY WE SAID YEAR TO DATE IS TYPICALLY WE START TRACKING RIDERSHIP IN END OF MARCH OR APRIL, BUT THIS YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT GIVEN THE DEMAND FOR RIDERSHIP.
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, IS RIDERSHIP UP OR DOWN THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY IN, UM, 2023, AS YOU SAID, THE NUMBER OF RIDES INCREASED EVEN THOUGH THE RIDES WERE SHORTER DISTANCES, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE RUNNING SCOOTERS IN 2023 THAN IN 2022.
HOW DOES THAT LOOK FOR 2024? YEAH, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE, UH, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE GATE SINCE WE DIDN'T, NEVER WENT INTO HIBERNATION.
SO THIS WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE AS WE LOOK AT COMPARING MONTH TO MONTH FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT 2023 NUMBERS, WE DID SEE THAT YEAR OVER YEAR DATA SHOWS THAT THERE ARE 31% MORE RIDES THIS YEAR THAN THERE WERE IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR WHEN THINGS WERE, WHEN THE SEASON WAS JUST STARTING.
SO THIS IS ENCOURAGING SO FAR FOR THIS YEAR.
UH, AS I'VE SAID TO YOU, JAM, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE SCOOTERS OUTSIDE OF BRIDGE PARK.
SO WHEN I TRY TO FIND A SCOOTER, I'M, I'M BASICALLY FINDING THEM IN HISTORIC DUBLIN OR BRIDGE PARK, NOT REALLY IN THE OTHER AREAS.
EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN RIDE A SCOOTER UP TO MUIRFIELD, RIGHT.
YOU JUST CAN'T FIND A SCOOTER TO RENT FROM THERE.
AND MY MY POSITION IS IF YOU LIVE IN MUIRFIELD AND YOU WANNA GO DOWN TO BRIDGE PARK AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC OR PARKING, YOU RENT THE SCOOTER BY YOUR HOUSE, YOU RIDE THE SCOOTER DOWN AND THEN YOU TAKE IT BACK.
SO I WOULD JUST ADVOCATE FOR MORE SCOOTERS IN MORE PLACES.
I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT AND I I WON'T BELABOR IT TOO MUCH 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GONNA, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO SEND IT BACK TO PUBLIC SERVICES TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TODAY WE HAVEN'T CHARGED, 'CAUSE WE'VE, WE HAVE ONE COMPANY, BIRD IS THE ONLY PERSON, RIGHT? SO IF WE OPEN THIS UP TO OTHER COMPANIES, RIGHT, THEN WE WOULD, WE COULD CHARGE MULTIPLE COMPANIES.
WHAT I WOULD CAUTION, HOWEVER, AND WHAT I NOTICE IN COLUMBUS IS THEN YOU GET A TON OF, THEN YOU GET TOO MANY SCOOTERS.
UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SCOOTERS PER COMPANY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT OR A MAXIMUM IN, UM, I JUST DON'T WANNA OVERWHELM.
'CAUSE YEAH, YOU GO DOWN TO, UM, COLUMBUS AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FOUR, I THINK THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT COLORS AND THEY'RE JUST LOOK CLUTTERED AND THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.
SO JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE.
AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA SEE IT AT PUBLIC SERVICES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING AS WE WATCH THIS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, BUT I GO BACK TO, AND JM YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH MICRO, MICRO MOBILITY, BUT THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO GET PEOPLE OUTTA THEIR CARS AND INTO SOMETHING ELSE THAT GETS THEM MOVING WITHOUT BEING IN THEIR CARS.
SO IT REALLY DISTURBS ME TO SEE AN ENTIRE SURVEY OF PEOPLE SAYING, GET RID OF THE SCOOTERS.
AND I THINK MAYBE, UM, I AGREE WITH ANDY.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET, UM, A PILOT PROGRAM OF SCOOTERS INTO NEIGHBORHOODS TO SEE IF THEY REALLY WILL BE USED FOR THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO BE USED TO BE ABLE TO USE IT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, AND WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH, IS THAT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN BRIDGE PARK IS SUCH A POPULAR AND INTENSE AREA THAT IF WE PUT EVERYTHING THAT'S FUN DOWN THERE, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT BECOMES TROUBLESOME AND BECOMES TOO DENSE AND TOO BURDENSOME.
WE DON'T HAVE DEMOGRAPHICS ON WHO'S RIDING THESE SCOOTERS.
IF THEY'RE JUST KIDS AND THEY'RE CAUSING ISSUES ON THE BRIDGE AND ON THE SIDEWALKS, THEN THAT'S NOT MEETING THE OBJECTIVE OF GETTING PEOPLE INTO A MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES.
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I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND IT FOR ANOTHER 12 MONTHS, LET'S LOOK AT INSTEAD OF MORE SCOOTERS, MAYBE MORE E-BIKES BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO RIDE A BIKE THAN THEY KNOW HOW TO RIDE A SCOOTER.I'M NOT GONNA GET ON A SCOOTER, BUT I'LL GET ON A BIKE.
UM, MAYBE A SEATED SCOOTER, LIKE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE RECOMMENDED THAT MAYBE SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE AFRAID TO RIDE A SCOOTER BUT WOULDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT RIDING A SCOOTER.
THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING YOU GOT AT KROGER'S
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK EX EXPAND THE MICRO MOBILITY OPTIONS INSTEAD OF EXPANDING THE SCOOTERS.
'CAUSE THE SCOOTERS ARE CAUSING A LOT OF PROBLEMS. UM, AND I THINK, UM, IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY GO BACK TO WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS.
NOT JUST THINK ABOUT SCOOTERS, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT MAKING SURE THEY PARK IN THE RIGHT PLACES AND ALL THAT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS JAM AND THE TEAM.
UM, DO, DO I RE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS, IF WE ADD THAT UP, THERE WAS 37 RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY.
DID I, IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? YES.
I, I MEAN, I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE TAKING, I MEAN, 37 ISN'T, STATISTICALLY I CAN'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT OF THAT ONLY 10 OF THEM EVER RIDDEN.
SO WE'RE LISTENING TO 10 PEOPLE WHO HAVE RIDDEN A SCOOTER.
AND SO I WOULD, BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO PUBLIC SERVICE, FIGURE OUT A MECHANISM TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST SURVEY BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO, TO TAKE 37 COMMENTS AND SAY THAT EXTRAPOLATES TO 50,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
SO I, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO THIS, BUT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IN IN FACT TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE AS I WAS READING HIM, I THOUGHT, WELL, IT'S NEGATIVE, BUT IT'S SO SMALL.
I I YOU WE CANNOT FEEL EITHER GOOD OR BAD ABOUT IT.
I, I, I CAUTION US TO DO THAT.
UM, THE OTHER COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT IF WE WANT TO, UM, ANDY'S POINT, IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO WRITE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT BIKE RACKS ALONG OUR, OUR WALKING PATH SO THAT THERE'S SOMEPLACE TO DOCK THESE, THESE, BECAUSE THE LITTER IS A PROBLEM, RIGHT? WE'VE ALL SEEN IT.
AND IF WE WANNA DO THAT, I THINK IT'S A QUITE A GOOD IDEA.
BUT WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW ME, I'M ALWAYS ABOUT MORE BIKE RACKS, RIGHT? THAT IS, THAT IS THE THING I, I RODE THIS MORNING TO THE BANK AND THERE'S NO BIKE RACK AT THE BANK, RIGHT? SO I FELT PRETTY GOOD LEAVING MY THING IN FRONT OF THE BANK.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, I I, I JUST THINK IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO PUT THE BIKE RACKS ALONG AND THEN TO JANE'S POINT, THEN YOU CAN HAVE MORE BIKES OR WHATEVER.
BUT WE, WE GOTTA DO THAT PART ALONG WITH THIS PART.
AND I WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR MORE PLACES TO PARK, UM, TO PARK YOUR COMMENT ABOUT A REGIONAL ONE.
I THINK IT'S ALWAYS LOVELY WHEN WE CAN DO REGIONAL, BUT DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN US.
AND I WOULD CAUTION ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO US IN THAT.
AND I, I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, I WOULD AS, AND IF WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE PILOT AND PICKUPS, IF, IF IT'S TRUE WHAT WE READ IN THESE 37 COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T PICKING UP AND THEY'RE THERE FOR DAYS AND WHATEVER, THEN MAYBE WE NEED A DIFFERENT PARTNER IF WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THIS, UM, OR HOLD THEM TO WHATEVER AGREEMENT.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS SAMPLE SIZE IS TRUE, BUT IF THAT IS IN FACT THE CASE, UM, I'M FOR IT.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO THINK HOLISTICALLY ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS THING REALLY SING.
UM, AND I'M FOR ANYTHING THAT GETS US, YOU KNOW, OUT AND ABOUT.
SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.
WE NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO PARK THEM.
UM, AS AMY SAID, I THINK WE NEED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF VENDORS.
BUT REGARDING THE SURVEY, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE SURVEY RESIDENTS ON THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT, VERY COSTLY.
UM, WHERE WE MAY HIRE A COMPANY TO ACTUALLY MAKE PHONE CALLS AND, YOU KNOW, CALL, CALL OUT TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA TAKE THE TIME TO RESPOND.
I THINK THE, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT MOST RESIDENTS PROBABLY JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO IT OR THEY'RE LIKE ME AND THEY SUPPORT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REINVENT THE WAY THE CITY WAS LAID OUT NECESSARILY.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A, A COMMUNITY PLAN AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW IF YOU GO TO, IF YOU GO TO ITALY, YOU GO TO SPAIN, THESE THINGS ARE VERY COMMONPLACE.
UM, AND THOSE ARE VERY DENSE AREAS.
AND DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS IS VERY DENSE.
I WOULD ARGUE THIS IS BETTER FOR A SUBURB THAN IT IS A DENSE AREA.
SO THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, STRONG ADOPTERS
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AND DENSE AREAS WERE SPREAD OUT.UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK, I MEAN IF I WERE TO REINVENT THE WAY WE LAID OUT THE CITY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, SPRAWLING TWO ACRE LOTS AND THAT KIND OF, OR FOUR ACRE LOTS, UM, LIKE, LIKE I DO.
UM, BUT MY POINT IS, IS THAT I THINK, UM, SCOOTERS, IF ANYWHERE THEY MAKE SENSE HERE.
AND AS I SAID, IF IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME, IF ALL THE ACTIVITY IS IN THE DENSER AREAS LIKE METRO CENTER OR BRIDGE PARK, I HAVE NO WAY TO GET THERE TO RENT THE SCOOTER.
I'VE GOTTA DRIVE A CAR THERE TO GET THE SCOOTER.
SO IF YOU CAN PUT THE SCOOTERS NEAR THE HOMES, I THINK THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DATA IS AVAILABLE TO US? THIS IS REAL, VERY TIMELY.
'CAUSE JUST TODAY I HAD A RESIDENT REACH OUT AND THEY WERE DRIVING THROUGH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ON FRIDAY EVENING AFTER 10:00 PM AND SAID THAT THERE WERE, UM, MORE THAN A DOZEN YOUNG PEOPLE ON SCOOTERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
AND SO DO, CAN WE, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE SCOOTERS CROSSING AT CROSSWALKS? ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS HAPPENING? IF THERE ARE OTHER, IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS, LIKE IF THE SCENARIO YOU JUST DESCRIBED, UM, SOMETIMES THEY WILL REACH OUT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY WILL NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
AND THEN WE CAN DO AN INVESTIGATION WITH THE DATA THAT WE, THAT IS COLLECTED AND SEE IF BIRD CAN DETERMINE IF THESE WERE BIRD SCOOTERS OR PRIVATELY OWNED SCOOTERS.
UM, SO WE RELY ON FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
SOMETIMES IT CAN BE IN THE FORM OF COMMENTS OR COMPLAINTS.
UM, BUT WE HAVE DONE A FEW OF THESE WHERE WE'VE GONE BACK TO SEE ARE, IS THIS A BIRD RIDER, IS THIS A PRIVATE RIDER? AND WHAT CAN WE DO IN TERMS OF RECTIFYING BAD BEHAVIOR? YOU KNOW, MAYBE ON THE WEEKEND HOURS AFTER 10 WE MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT DATA.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE TIMES THAT, UH, IT'S MOST LIKELY TO PERHAPS HAVE OFFENDERS.
UM, ANYTHING, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? OKAY.
UM, HEARING NONE, UH, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. KEELER? YES.
AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REFER THE MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM TO THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW OF DRAFT CODE MODIFICATIONS AND MICRO MOBILITY OPERATION MANAGEMENT OPTIONS.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MS. CRAM? YES.
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THIS BRINGS US TO THE OTHER BUSINESS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA AND WE WILL NOW HEAR THE DUBLIN SUSTAINABILITY PLAN UPDATE AND OUR STAFF REPORT WILL BE FROM EMILY OLIVER.GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I'M GONNA DO A QUICK TEST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONSULTANTS CAN HEAR US.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BE BRINGING FORWARD THE DUBLIN SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR YOUR REVIEW THIS EVENING.
AS YOU'LL HEAR, THIS PLAN HAS BEEN UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR OVER A YEAR.
IT IS INFORMED BY GLOBAL BEST PRACTICES INDUSTRY EXAMPLES AND IS DRIVEN BY DATA.
JOINING US THIS EVENING, AS I JUST MENTIONED, IS OUR CONSULTANT TEAM FROM ASKER ROBINSON THAT WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PLAN.
ISABELLE, KYLE, AND ANDREW ARE JOINING US VIRTUALLY FROM TEXAS WHERE ASKER ROBINSON IS BASED.
UM, THE EPA REPORTS THAT COMMERCIAL AIRPLANES CONTRIBUTE TO 10% OF US TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS AND 3% OF GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS PRODUCTION.
SO IN THE INTEREST OF SUSTAINABILITY THIS EVENING, UH, WE CHOSE TO HAVE THEM JOIN US VIRTUALLY.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, IN JULY, 2022, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE DUBLIN STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK.
THIS FRAMEWORK SET FORTH THE CITY'S VISION OF BEING THE MOST SUSTAINABLE, CONNECTED, AND RESILIENT GLOBAL CITY OF CHOICE.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL CATEGORY OF THE MOST SUSTAINABLE GOAL SET FORTH DUBLIN AS A CITY THAT IS A MODEL FOR SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY DESIGN, ZERO WASTE, CARBON NEUTRAL AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND FURTHERANCE OF THESE GOALS.
AND TO PRESERVE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, STAFF HAS UNDERTAKEN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE PREVIOUSLY KNOWN DUBLIN SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK TO THE DUBLIN SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT I JUST MENTIONED SERVED THE CITY WELL IN ITS FIRST, UH, AS THE FIRST DOCUMENT TO OUTLINE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
UH, BUT GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF SUSTAINABILITY IN ACHIEVING COUNCIL'S VISION, STAFF DID ADMINISTER AN RFP.
UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, SELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ASKER ROBINSON TO HELP DRAFT A WORLD-CLASS SUSTAINABILITY PLAN THAT WOULD LEVERAGE THEIR INDUSTRY EXPERTISE.
KER ROBINSON HAS DEVELOPED AWARD-WINNING SUSTAINABILITY PLANS
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THAT FOCUS ON ACTIONABLE METRICS TO GUIDE COMMUNITIES IN IMPLEMENTING THEIR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.AND THAT WAS A KEY FACTOR IN OUR CHOOSING THEM FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO AS PART OF THE, UH, FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, ESKER ROBINSON REVIEWED SEVERAL LOCAL AND REGIONAL PLANS TO ESTABLISH ALIGNMENT WITH ONGOING EFFORTS.
THIS INCLUDED REVIEWING THE DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN, WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT SPECIAL AREA PLAN, THE DEI FRAMEWORK, MORSE'S REGIONAL SUSTAINABILITY AGENDA, AND OF COURSE THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO BEEN SUBSTANTIAL WORK DONE TO ESTABLISH ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AND THE ENVISION DUBLIN COMMUNITY PLAN.
ASKER ROBINSON HAS MET WITH HOUSE OF LEVINE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS TO DISCUSS HOW TO TIE THE PLANS TOGETHER AND TO COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.
IT ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO BE PERFECT TIMING AS BOTH PLANS ENTERED THE FINAL STAGES AT JUST ABOUT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO MATCH UP THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ENSURE THAT THEY SPOKE TO EACH OTHER.
SO WHILE THE PROJECT OFFICIALLY KICKED OFF IN MAY, 2023, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION AT CSAC.
THE PROCESS STARTED BY GETTING C SACS INITIAL THOUGHTS IN 2022 AND THEN KICKED OFF OFFICIALLY LAST MAY.
SINCE THEN, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL TOUCH POINTS WITH THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING SURVEYS, A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP, STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, UM, AND MORE.
AND AT THIS POINT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ISABELLE TO INTRODUCE HER TEAM AND DIVE DEEPER INTO THE PROCESS THAT WE TOOK TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN.
AND GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
SO TOUCHING ON THE TIMELINE AND ENGAGEMENT, UM, WE STARTED OUR WORK IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, AND THIS TIMELINE ILLUSTRATES AN ITERATIVE AND INCLUSIVE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
IN THE EARLY MONTHS, OUR TEAM CAME FOR A SITE VISIT WHERE WE HELD AN INITIAL LISTENING AND VISIONING SESSION WITH THE ECO DUBLIN TEAM.
LATER IN THE SUMMER, WE DISTRIBUTED AN ONLINE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT RESULTED IN 165 RESPONSES THAT SHED LIGHT ON PERSPECTIVES SURROUNDING TOPICS OF ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
MOVING INTO THE FALL, WE HOSTED A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS LEARNED ABOUT THE PLAN AND EXPRESSED THEIR OPINIONS AND PRIORITIES FOR SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES.
IN DECEMBER, WE TARGETED OUR ENGAGEMENT TOWARDS FOCUS GROUP SESSIONS TO GATHER FEEDBACK ON THE VISION AND FRAMEWORK FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THIS INCLUDED SESSIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL, LOCAL AND REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, DUBLIN CITY SCHOOL STUDENTS AND BUSINESS PARTNERS, WHICH WERE ALSO PAIR PAIRED WITH A BUSINESS COMMUNITY SURVEY.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THEN OPERATIONALIZED INTO AN ACTION PLAN WHERE WE ENGAGED THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM IN BOTH AN INITIAL AND FINAL REVIEW PROCESS THAT RESULTED IN THE PLAN WE PRESENT TODAY.
ULTIMATELY, THIS PROCESS WAS ABOUT CREATING A PLAN THAT ALIGNS WITH THE COMMUNITY'S VISION AND PERCEPTIONS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, PAIRED WITH THE HARD DATA ON HOW THE COMMUNITY PRACTICES SUSTAINABILITY.
SO BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE PLAN'S, GOALS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'RE GONNA COVER THAT ALIGNMENT PROCESS IN TWO AREAS.
THE COMMUNITY SURVEY FEEDBACK AND THE GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY.
SO COMMUNITY SURVEY FEEDBACK, UM, RESULTED IN SIX KEY FINDINGS.
THE FIRST ONE HERE ON THE LEFT IS SUSTAINABILITY RELATED ISSUES.
UH, THE AREAS OF GREATEST CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY TODAY ARE RELIABLE POWER, UTILITY COSTS, AND AIR POLLUTION.
TO THE RIGHT HERE, PERCEIVED BENEFITS IS THE SECOND KEY FINDING.
WHEN ASKED ABOUT BENEFITS OF SUSTAINABLE CITIES, RESPONDENTS INDICATED THAT NATURAL AREA CONSERVATION AND REDUCING WASTE WERE THE TOP TWO BENEFITS, UM, FOR THEIR HOUSEHOLDS.
THE THIRD FINDING WAS PERSONAL PRACTICES.
SO WE HEARD THAT NEARLY ALL RESPONDENTS WERE INTERESTED IN AND OR ALREADY TAKING MEASURES FOR RECYCLING, IMPROVING THEIR HOME ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND HAVING HIGH QUALITY LANDSCAPING THAT IMPROVES HABITAT QUALITY AND BIODIVERSITY.
THE FOURTH FINDING WAS SUSTAINABLE SERVICES AND OPTIONS.
SURVEY RESPONDENTS IDENTIFIED SUSTAINABILITY SERVICES AND OPTIONS AS HAVING SOME LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE IN DECIDING THEIR OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE HOUSING AND WHERE THEY EAT.
THE FIFTH IS SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
SO WE ASKED, UM, RESPONDENTS TO RANK GOALS ACCORDING TO THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE, RESPONDENTS IDENTIFIED RECYCLING AND DIVERSION AND SUSTAINABILITY IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AS THE TOP PRIORITIES.
AND THE SIX AND FINAL IS SUSTAINABILITY RELATED PROGRAMS. SO PROGRAMS THAT RECEIVED THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF PARTICIPATION BY DUBLIN RESIDENTS INCLUDE THE CITY'S WASTE RELATED EVENTS, PROGRAMMING FROM NATURE-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS AT WORK OR SCHOOL.
SO THESE FINDINGS HELP INFORM SOME OF THE COMMUNITY'S VISION AND PERCEPTIONS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE PAIRED THIS WITH HARD DATA ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNITY PRACTICES SUSTAINABILITY.
I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO ANDREW TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS PROCESS AND DATA.
GREAT, THANK YOU ISABEL AND GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY THAT WAS CONDUCTED USING 2022 DATA.
UH, WHEN WE STARTED THE PROCESS, THIS WAS THE MOST RECENT
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FULL YEAR OF CALENDAR YEAR DATA AVAILABLE.AND SO WE WANT TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THIS PROCESS.
WE LOOKED AT BOTH GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS, SO THE EMISSIONS PRODUCED BY THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S, GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS, YOUR BUILDINGS, VEHICLES AND FACILITIES, AS WELL AS AN OVERALL ESTIMATE OF COMMUNITY UM, EMISSIONS.
SO I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THESE INCLUDE BOTH EMISSIONS PRODUCED IN THE LOCALITY.
SO WHETHER YOU'RE, UM, USING GASOLINE IN A VEHICLE OR NATURAL GAS FOR A, A BOILER OR FURNACE VERSUS SCOPE TWO EMISSIONS MORE INDIRECT.
IF YOU CONSUME GRID ELECTRICITY, YOU MIGHT BE USING IT HERE, BUT THE ENERGY IS PRODUCED OUTSIDE OF LOCALITY AND AS WELL AS SCOPE THREE, WHICH ARE THE INDIRECT EMISSIONS AS WELL.
SO, UM, COSTS THAT ARE INCURRED FURTHER DOWNSTREAM.
I'LL START WITH THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS INVENTORY.
AND THIS WAS INTENDED TO HAVE A ESTIMATE OF WHERE THE CITY OF DUBLIN CURRENTLY STANDS WITH ITS BUILDINGS AND FACILITY USAGE BEING THE TWO PRIMARY AREAS.
I WILL NOTE THAT THIS IS PRE THE CONTRACT FOR THE 100% RENEWABLE GRID ELECTRICITY, BUT IT DOES, UM, ALLOW US TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHICH BUILDINGS IN THE CITY ARE THE MAIN ENERGY USERS HERE.
AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY DOES PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICES.
IT HAS QUITE A FEW BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES, IT DOES MANAGE.
UH, WE ESTIMATED THAT ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 3,600 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT, WHICH IS THE STANDARD UNIT FOR A GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY TO COMPARE ALL THE DIFFERENT EMISSIONS THAT COME OUT.
UM, WERE PRODUCED AS A RESULT OF BUILDINGS CONSUMING GRID ELECTRICITY AND NATURAL GAS, AGAIN, PRE RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY.
AND ABOUT A QUARTER OF THAT, UM, WAS USED FOR THE FLEET EMISSIONS, WHICH INCLUDES SERIES OF GASOLINE, COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS AND DIESEL VEHICLES.
SO I'LL NOTE THAT, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE EMISSIONS WERE, WOULD BE CAPTURED WITH THE GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS.
WE USED METER DATA THAT WAS FROM THE, PROVIDED BY THE CITY TO ESTIMATE THIS, BUT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S A MIX OF VEHICLE TYPES HERE AND NOT, NOT ALL VEHICLES ARE FEASIBLE AS EVS YET.
AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF VARIETY HERE IN TERMS OF THE VEHICLE SIZE AS WELL.
BUT WANNA PROVIDE THIS AS A BENCHMARK FOR SORT OF WHICH BUILDINGS HAVE THE BIGGEST, UH, RELATIVE FOOTPRINT HERE.
CERTAINLY AS WE LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY SCALE, THIS IS SORT AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST AREAS WE HAVE TO, TO HELP MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND HELP REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE GAS, UM, EMISSIONS AND CARBON FOOTPRINT HERE AS WE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF, UM, CATEGORIES INCLUDING TRANSPORTATION, WHICH WAS MODELED USING, UM, VEHICLE MILES TRAVEL PROVIDED BY THE, UH,
UH, WE JUST FIND THAT TRANSPORTATION IS THE OVERALL BIGGEST CATEGORY OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
BUT WE DID NOTE THAT THE ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND COMMERCIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL ENERGY USERS WAS, WAS FAIRLY HIGH.
UH, WHILE THIS DOES INCLUDE SOME MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, UH, THERE'S SOME INTERESTING NOTES ON THIS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND AS WE LOOK AT OTHER LOCALITIES AND PEERS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID NOTICE THAT OVERALL MAYBE SOME AREAS FOR THE CITY OF DUB TO TO WORK WITH, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, EACH LOCALITY IS DIFFERENT, EACH MIX OF ENERGY IS DIFFERENT.
UM, WITH TRANSPORTATION BEING ONE OF THE BIGGEST CATEGORIES, WE DID KNOW THAT VEHICLE TRAVEL WAS A BIT HIGHER HERE.
SO AGAIN, FINDING WAYS TO REDUCE VEHICLE MILES, TRAVEL PER CAPITA, UM, WITHIN THE CITY, REDUCE THE USAGE OF, YOU KNOW, SINGLE OCCUPANCY DEALS, PROVIDED WAYS TO REDUCE THE OVERALL CARBON FOOTPRINT HERE.
AND AS WE LOOKED AT THE NON-RESIDENTIAL ENERGY USAGE, IT WAS HIGHER THAN SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES WE LOOKED AT, INCLUDING THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA.
AND ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND DUBLIN DOES HAVE A SORT OF UNIQUE, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING INVENTORY AND BUILDING BASE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LARGE CORPORATE OFFICE PRESENCE IN THE CITY.
SO LOOKING AT THOSE AS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, Y'ALL DO HAVE AN OUTSIZED CAPACITY OF OFFICE SPACE PER PERSON HERE.
AND WE SUSPECT THAT MOST LIKELY DRIVEN BY, AGAIN, THESE LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT TAKE A LOT OF ENERGY TO LIGHT, HEAT AND COOL OVER TIME.
BUT, UM, ALL I WOULD SAY WITH THE GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY, THESE ARE HERE TO MORE SHAPE RELATIVE PRIORITIES.
THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY ABSOLUTE COUNTS 'CAUSE THEY ARE FAIRLY MODELED, BUT PROVIDE SOME LAY ON WHERE THE CITY CAN PRIORITIZE EFFORTS MOVING FORWARD ASSET BACK TO THE REST OF OUR TEAM.
THE PLAN IDENTIFIES FOUR THEMES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO ADDRESS.
THE FIRST IS MODEL SUSTAINABLE LEADERSHIP.
AND THIS IS REALLY LEVERAGING DUBLIN'S SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS TO LEAD THE WAY IN SUSTAINABILITY.
THE SECOND IS DESIGN SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS IS THINKING ABOUT ASPECTS OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS TO MULTIMODAL MOBILITY, RESILIENCY, EFFICIENCY, AND RENEWABLE ENERGY.
THE THIRD IS TO SUPPORT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
THIS IS THINKING ABOUT SUPPORTING NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION AND SPECIFICALLY
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TARGETING ACTIONS IN WATER, ECOLOGY, AND AIR.AND THE FOURTH IS ACHIEVE ZERO WASTE, MAKING A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO REACH ZERO WASTE AND TO SUPPORT A CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
TO ACHIEVE THESE FOUR THEMES, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN ORGANIZED INTO AN ACTION PLAN BASED ON THREE KIND OF FACTORS HERE, THEIR IMPACT, COST, AND TIMEFRAME.
SO IMPACT REALLY RELATES TO WHETHER OR NOT THE RECOMMENDATION DIRECTLY LOWERS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
WHILE SOME STRATEGIES HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT, OTHER STRATEGIES ARE GEARED TOWARDS IMPROVING CAPACITY OR EDUCATION THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THOSE DIRECT IMPACTS.
COST HAS FOUR CATEGORIES AND THIS DEMONSTRATES SORT OF THE RANGE OF PROGRAMS, POLICIES AND PROJECTS ENVISIONED IN THIS PLAN.
AND FINALLY, TIMEFRAME, WHICH INCLUDES ACTION IN PROGRESS TODAY, BUT ALSO PRIORITIZES ACTION IN THE SHORT, MEDIUM, AND LONG-TERM SCENARIOS.
WE'LL DISCUSS MORE ABOUT THE ACTION PLAN IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT FIRST WE'D LIKE TO GO A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO KYLE NOW TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FOUR CRITICAL THEMES.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.
IT IS AN HONOR TO BE SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY AND IT HAS BEEN A TRUE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOUR CITY STAFF AND COMMUNITIES TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN.
UH, I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY HIGH LEVEL HERE AND JUST KIND OF GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT OUR THEMES AND OBJECTIVES.
UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS IF WE WANT TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UH, A LITTLE BIT LATER ON.
SO JUST JUMPING RIGHT INTO THEME ONE, UH, MODEL SUSTAINABLE LEADERSHIP.
SO LEADERSHIP IS CRITICAL FOR DEVELOPING MORE SUSTAINABLE WAYS OF BEING A SUSTAINABILITY IN MANY WAYS ABOUT CHANGE MANAGEMENT AND FOSTERING COLLECTIVE IMPACT.
TRANSITIONING TO SUSTAINABLE MODES OF DOING AND BEING REQUIRES US TO ADOPT NEW PERSPECTIVES AND PRACTICES THAT MAKE CHALLENGE OUR NORMS AND STANDARDS.
AND TO COLLABORATE ACROSS SECTORS AND PROPERTY LINES AMONG OTHER BARRIERS TO GENERATE BROADER CHANGE THAT CUMULATIVELY CAN AFFECT MEANINGFUL COLLECTIVE IMPACTS.
TO HELP MAKE THIS HAPPEN, THE CITY CAN BE A SUSTAINABILITY SHEPHERD BOTH THROUGH LEADING BY EXAMPLE AND BY BRINGING THE RIGHT PEOPLE INTO THE ROOM TO COLLECTIVELY PURSUE SHARED SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
SO TO JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THE OBJECTIVES WITHIN THIS THEME, UM, WE HAVE THE FIRST CREATED CONSTELLATION OF PARTNERS.
SO THERE REALLY IS NO SINGLE PERSON, UH, ORGANIZATION OR DEPARTMENT THAT CAN BUILD A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.
IT'S A SHARED EFFORT THAT REQUIRES BUY-IN AND PARTICIPATION ACROSS SECTORS, UH, AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE OBJECTIVE TO CREATE A CONSTELLATION OF PARTNERS IS DEVELOP TO HELP LAY THE FOUNDATIONS FOR A NETWORK OF COLLABORATIVE PARTNERS ALIGNED BY A SHARED PURSUIT OF SUSTAINABILITY, AND TO LEVERAGE THESE PARTNERSHIPS TO EXPAND REACH SUCH THAT WHERE THE CITY'S INFLUENCE BEGINS OR ENDS, RATHER, THE INFLUENCE OF PARTNERS BEGINS, UH, FROM NONPROFITS AND UNIVERSITIES TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND DUBLIN CITY SCHOOLS.
THE CITY IS WELL POSITIONED TO BE THE CENTRAL ANCHOR FOR SUCH COLLECTIVE EFFORTS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE INSTITUTIONALIZATION, UH, OF THE USE OF SUSTAINABILITY DATA.
WHILE THERE ARE SEVERAL BIG PIECES OR KEY IDEAS FOR THEME ONE, UM, WE REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AS A KEY DRIVER FOR SUSTAINABILITY IN DUBLIN.
UM, BECAUSE THESE ELEMENTS ARE FUNDAMENTAL FOR EFFECTIVE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMMING AS THEY ENABLE DUBLIN TO BOTH EFFECTIVELY EVALUATE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND NEEDS, WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING LONG-TERM MEASUREMENTS AND EVALUATION OF PROGRAMS, POLICIES AND REGULATIONS.
WHILE MANY CITIES MAY HAVE CREATED HIGH QUALITY SUSTAINABILITY PLANS, GREAT IDEAS, A FEW OF US HAVE DEDICATED THEMSELVES TO EFFECTIVELY MONITORING AND EVALUATING, UH, IN WAYS THAT ARE TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC AND CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED.
UM, SO A BIG PIECE OF THAT IS TO CREATE A PUBLIC DASHBOARD, BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHICH REALLY CREATES A TRANSPARENT SENSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND IT ALSO HELPS FOLKS TO JUST UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY IS DOING, UH, WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW THEIR EFFORTS ARE HELPING TO PUSH THE DIAL.
SO FOR THEME TWO, DESIGNING SUSTAINABLE COM COMMUNITIES, UM, SUSTAINABILITY RIGHT IS OF COURSE A VERY FAR REACHING PURSUIT, TOUCHING NEARLY EVERY ASPECT OF OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND DAILY LIVES.
SO THIS SECOND THEME, DESIGNING SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES ENDEAVORS TO PROVIDE WIDE REACHING STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS TO HELP SHAPE A SUSTAINABLE DUBLIN THROUGH MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, ADAPTIVE AND OR EFFICIENT BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES.
AND THE EXPANSION OF ACCESS TO AND USE OF RENEWABLES.
TRANSPORTATION OF BUILDINGS IN PARTICULAR ARE TWO TITANS OF ENERGY USE AND EMISSIONS GENERATIONS.
SO WE SOUGHT TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION BUILT ENVIRONMENT RELATED PRACTICES THAT ARE CUSTOM TAILORED TO DUBLIN'S CAPACITIES TO LAY OUT A PRAGMATIC, ACHIEVABLE ROADMAP TO DESIGNING MORE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES.
SO FOR A QUICK HIGHLIGHT FROM THIS THEME, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT EFFICIENCY.
UM, EFFICIENCY IS REALLY THE BIG PIECE FOR A THEME TWO, UH, WITH ALL OTHER OBJECTIVES
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EFFECTIVELY SUPPORTING OR OTHERWISE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PURSUIT OF BETTER WATER AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY.UM, SO FOCUSING ON EFFICIENCY IS AN EFFECTIVE PATH TO FOSTERING BEHAVIORAL CHANGE, JUST CRITICAL FOR MEANINGFUL SUSTAINABILITY GAINS, UM, WHILE ALSO CREATING EFFECTIVE TARGETS FOR MORE SUSTAINABLE BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES THAT WILL GUIDE OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT, UH, TOWARDS A NEW MODE OF EFFICIENCY THAT CAN SUPPORT LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
EFFICIENCY ALSO HAS PRACTICAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS, UH, CAN IMPROVE, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS RATHER WITH EFFICIENCY TYPICALLY OF ROIS AND CAN LEAD TO INCREASES IN QUALITY OF LIFE OR COMFORTABLE BUILDINGS, LOWER BILLS, UH, AND SO ON ALONGSIDE THE BEHAVIORAL CHANGE.
SO SLIDE, UH, THEME THREE, RATHER SUPPORT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
UM, SO BEYOND THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, UM, TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND ENERGY SYSTEMS OR THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF SUSTAINABILITY.
BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES ALLOWS US TO FOSTER A MORE VIBRANT PRESENT WHILE ENSURING A VER FUTURE FOR COMING GENERATIONS.
UM, TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING, I'M GONNA DRIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAN THIS, UH, OBJECTIVE LEVEL.
UM, WITHIN REGENERATIVE CITY WE HAVE 3.2 0.1, ENHANCED QUALITY OF NATURAL SPACES ON CITY OWNED LAND THROUGH PILOT PROJECTS, FUTURE PLANNING AND COORDINATION OF MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT.
UM, SO ALONGSIDE EFFORTS TO MAKE THE CITY MORE EFFICIENT AND REDUCE RESOURCE CONSUMPTION AND CRITICAL COMPONENT OF MORE SUSTAINABLE WORLD IS THE PURSUIT OF ECOLOGICAL REGENERATION, WHICH IS WHY I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IDEA.
CITY OF DUBLIN IS WELL POSITIONED AND EXPERIENCED WITH LEADING BY EXAMPLE IN SUSTAINABILITY, AS WE'VE SEEN IN REVIEWING THE WORK Y'ALL HAVE DONE SO FAR.
AND THIS STRATEGY SEEKS TO LEVERAGE CITY ASSETS TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING TRULY INNOVATIVE, COMPELLING AND EFFECTIVE LANDSCAPE FEATURES THAT CAN IMPROVE WATER AND BUT POTENTIALLY ENERGY EFFICIENCY CAN SUPPORT BIODIVERSITY AND PROVIDE MEANINGFUL MODELS OF MORE SUSTAINABLE SITE DESIGN IN THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD SENSE.
IN ADDITION TO SUSTAINABILITY BENEFITS, PURSUING PILOT PROJECTS SUCH AS GRAY WATER REUSE OR LARGER SCALE RAINWATER CAPTURE ON CITY ON LAND COULD RESULT IN THE TYPES OF LANDSCAPES THAT CAPTURE NATIONAL ATTEN NATIONAL ATTENTION.
UM, CERTAINLY COULD BE AWARD SUBMITTALS, UM, CASE STUDIES AND REALLY HOPE TO PUT DOUBLET ON THE MAP.
THAT'S THE MOST SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ACHIEVING ZERO WASTE.
UH, SO WASTE IS ONE OF THE MOST PRESSING CHALLENGES FACING CITIES ACROSS A GLOBAL SPECTRUM OF CONTEXT.
UM, YET WITH EACH CHALLENGE WE FACE, THERE ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND BETTER WAYS OF TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS.
UH, SO WITH WASTE WE HAVE A MYRIAD OF OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE COMMON FORMS OF WASTE THROUGH CIRCULAR ECONOMIC PROCESSES, UH, TO GENERATE RESOURCES FOR NEW PRODUCTS OR PROCESSES AND REDUCE OUR RESOURCE USE IN THE PROCESS.
UM, SO FOR THIS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING IDEAS WITHIN CIRCULAR CITY, WHICH IS 4.1 0.1, UH, FORMALIZED DECONSTRUCTION AND MATERIAL REUSE AS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR REDEVELOPMENT PROCESSES.
SO THIS AN AREA THAT TOUCHES ON ECONOMICS, WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND RAW INNOVATION THAT WE'RE TRULY EXCITED TO SEE DOUBLE AND EXPLORE.
UH, DECONSTRUCTION MATERIAL REUSE PROCESSES ARE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY CUTTING EDGE.
WHILE THE CORE CONCEPTS MAY NOT BE NEW, THEIR ROLE IN SUSTAINABILITY IS GAINING TRACTION RAPIDLY AS MORE CITIES BEGIN TO EXPLORE AND IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES TO FOSTER MORE CIRCULAR ECONOMICS IN THE ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRIES, THIS IS A CRITICAL PIECE OF REDUCING EMISSIONS AS BUILDINGS, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION PROCESSES ARE THE SINGLE HIGHEST USE OF ENERGY AND CONSERVING THE ENERGY EMBODIED AND EXISTING BUILDING MATERIALS IS CRITICAL FOR REDUCING CLIMATE IMPACTS FROM RAW MATERIAL USE.
ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING ASPECTS OF THIS, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE CITY TO LEAD THROUGH DEVELOPING A BUILDING MATERIAL INNOVATION OR REUSE CENTER.
WE'VE SEEN GREAT SUCCESS IN A FEW US CITIES SO FAR THAT HAVE PURSUED THIS STRATEGY.
THERE'S ALSO ROOM HERE FOR DUBLIN TO ESTABLISH ANOTHER AREA OF LEADERSHIP AND SUSTAINABILITY THAT CAN HELP SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS AT THE CITY LEVEL WHILE ESTABLISHING DUBLIN AS A REGIONAL LEADER AND PRACTICAL CIRCULAR ECONOMICS.
A KEY FOCUS THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THIS PROJECT KICKED OFF WAS ENSURING THAT THE RESULTS OF IT WOULD BE ACTIONABLE.
SO PART OF HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE TIMEFRAMES WAS BASED ON THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE STRATEGIES, WHICH INCLUDED THE IMPACT OF THEM HIGHER IMPORTANCE ITEMS WERE DESIGNATED IN THE SHORT TERM AS THEY WILL YIELD IMMEDIATE IMPACTS ON EMISSIONS, WHILE ALSO SETTING THE FOUNDATION FOR THE MEDIUM AND LONG TERM STRATEGIES.
IMPACT WAS ALSO A FACTOR IN THESE TIMEFRAMES, UM, IN PURSUIT OF REDUCING EMISSIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK STRATEGIES WITH THE DIRECT IMPACT THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED EARLIER IN THE TIMELINE WERE INCLUDED IN THE SHORT TERM.
SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS IN THE MEDIUM AND LONG-TERM.
UM, TIMEFRAMES HERE CAN BE COMPLETED ONCE THE ITEMS IN PROGRESS OR LISTED UNDER SHORT TERM ARE ADDRESSED.
THIS WILL GIVE US TIME TO GET THINGS IN MOTION THAT ARE HIGH IMPACT AND THEN REALLY HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ON SOME OF THE STRATEGIES WITH LESS IMPACT
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OR THAT MIGHT TAKE MORE TIME TO IMPLEMENT.SO WITH THAT STAFF IS SEEKING FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL REGARDING THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS.
UM, WHAT IS COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK REGARDING THE STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS OUTLINED IN THE DRAFT DUBLIN SUSTAINABILITY PLAN? IS THERE ANYTHING NOT INCLUDED IN THE PLAN THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? AND IS COUNCIL SUPPORTIVE OF REFERRING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DOUBLE AND SUSTAINABILITY PLAN TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR THEIR FEEDBACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS COMING BACK TO COUNCIL.
UM, AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ALL HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UH, IS THERE ANY RESIDENT PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT RELATIVE TO THIS UPDATE? HEARING NONE, UH, COUNCIL QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, UM, SOMETHING I WONDERED ABOUT RELATED TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS, UM, WHY THERE'S NOT CITY ORDINANCES.
AND THIS IS REALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS KYLE, MAYBE AND ISABELLA AND UH, ANDREW, WHY THERE'S NOT A CITY ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A CISTERN, WHICH ARE NOW JUST PLASTIC.
IN THE OLD DAYS THEY WERE MASONRY OUTSIDE EVERY NEW BUILD.
SO ALL THE WATERS TAKEN OFF, THE HOUSES PUT INTO THERE, YOU CAN USE IT FOR NON PORT PORTABLE USE FOR THE HOUSEHOLD FOR IRRIGATION.
AND THEN YOU ALSO DON'T WEAR OUT YOUR SEWERS AND WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY RELY THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW WHY, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS GONNA INCLUDE SOMETHING INTO YOUR PLAN, I'D SAY AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES ALL NEW BUILDS TO HAVE A CISTERN AND ALL THE DOWNS SPOUTING TO RUN INTO THAT CISTERN SO THAT YOU COULD U UTILIZE THE WATER.
I MEAN, JUST ONE SUGGESTION FOR THIS THING, IT WAS FILLED WITH A LOT OF INTERESTING, UM, IDEAS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE COME OUT IN THE LAST MAYBE 60 YEARS ON SUSTAINABILITY, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU GUYS HAD ANY, UM, EXPERIENCE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT A CITY GOVERNMENT COULD PASS EASILY, UH, WITH A PRETTY SIMPLE ORDINANCE.
SO JUST THROW IT BACK TO THE, UH, ADVISORS.
UM, KYLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ONE? SURE.
I, I WELCOME THE, THE TEAM TO, UH, CHIME IN AS WELL.
I, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ME CONVINCED.
I, I WOULD HAVE NO ARGUMENTS THERE REALLY.
I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY BE CHALLENGING IN TERMS OF, UM, COST FEASIBILITY FOR DEVELOPERS, BUT I ALWAYS TEND TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO FOR IT.
LET'S CHALLENGE, UH, CURRENT STANDARDS AND LET'S SEE, UH, WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN PUT INTO PLACE.
SO I MEAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
UM, I'LL DEFER TO, UH, ISABELLE PROJECT MANAGER WHO HAS MORE AUTHORITY ON SUCH THINGS, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE THE IDEA AND YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S BASICALLY NO MORE THAN A BACKHOE AND A AND A, UH, PLASTIC LARGE PAL PLASTIC CONTAINER PLANTED AT THE FOOT OF EACH HOUSE.
AND, AND, UH, WHERE I USED TO LIVE IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, THAT'S WHERE ALL YOUR WATER CAME FROM.
THERE WAS NO CITY WATER, YOU COLLECTED IT OFF YOUR ROOF AND UTILIZED IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST COST EFFICIENCY, RECYCLING AND EVERY OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT, THIS THING IS A WIN-WIN DEAL.
YEAH, I THINK TO POTENTIALLY ADD TO SOME PIECES WHERE WE HAVE CONSIDERED THAT, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT AREAS AND THIS WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT KIND OF INCORPORATING THIS FEEDBACK.
UM, FIRST IS THE INTEGRATED KIND OF ONE WATER PLAN, KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THIS AT A LARGER SCALE AND JUST THE ROLE OF WATER AND EFFICIENCY IN GENERAL AND HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, GOES FROM A CITY LEVEL DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT.
UM, ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE'VE SOUGHT TO KIND OF ADDRESS SORT OF STANDARDS IN NEW DEVELOPMENT IS KIND OF HIGHLIGHT HIGHLIGHTED IN KIND OF THE ADAPTIVE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAD SET FORTH, UM, KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO CREATE NEW STANDARDS FOR, UH, THAT ACHIEVE CERTAIN, UM, LIKE SITES OR LEAD, UM, RECOGNITION THAT KIND OF ROLL IN SOME OF, UM, WATER EFFICIENCY INTO SOME OF THE PERFORMANCE OF AND OF THOSE, UM, CERTIFICATIONS, IF YOU WILL.
UM, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO AREAS WHERE WE WERE SORT OF ROLLING THE IDEA OF WATER AND WATER MANAGEMENT, UM, INTO THE PLAN.
I JUST THINK THIS WOULD BE, UM, A PROGRESSIVE IDEA THAT YOU GUYS COULD UTILIZE IF, IF THIS IS YOUR BUSINESS.
UH, IT'S AN EASY THING TO PASS AND IT'S SIMPLE THING TO DO, AND IT'S RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE AND, UH, THERE'S JUST SO MANY USES FOR IT, ESPECIALLY FOR LAWN AND IRRIGATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT CERTAINLY WATCH THE DOG.
OTHER THOUGHTS HERE ON
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PLAN NOW AND METRO CENTER.FOR ME, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, STARTING NOW EITHER ENCOURAGING OR REQUIRING BUILDERS TO INCORPORATE GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS LIKE GREEN ROOFS OR OTHER THINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, FOR ME, IT'S, I THINK IT'S HARDER TO CHANGE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
UM, IT'S EASIER FOR US TO CHANGE WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD AND WHAT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET.
SO AS COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, REINER JUST MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, NEW HOMES THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED, HIS IDEA WOULD, COULD BE A REQUIREMENT OF THAT.
UM, NEW BUILDS IN METRO CENTER OR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AROUND THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
SO I, I, I SEE THAT CODIFYING SOME OF THIS STUFF IS IN, IS A SUGGESTED LONGER TERM PLAN FOR ME.
I WOULD MAYBE SPEED THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT HERE.
HUNDREDS OF SUGGESTIONS, THINGS LIKE, LIKE GREEN DATA MANAGEMENT.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T GRA GRAPPLE WITH WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS, HOW YOU MANAGE DATA IN A GREEN WAY.
FOR ME, IT'S THE, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND, AND, UM, UH, THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT.
SO FOR ME, IT, IT WOULD BE SPEEDING UP THE THINGS THAT ARE MORE, UM, IMPACTFUL.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CS A'S JOB WOULD BE.
ASSUMING WE AGREED TO REFER THIS TO CSAC, IT WOULD BE LOOKING AT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE CODIFIED, UM, GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS AND, UM, MAKING THAT HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
I KNOW IT HAS BEEN AN ENDEAVOR.
UM, I I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK A BIT ON ANDY'S.
I, MY IMPRESSION IS THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH HERE.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINE AFTER LINE AFTER LINE, I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D EAT THAT ELEPHANT, IF YOU WILL.
AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS, WE HAD A DISCUSSION EARLIER IN THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT EMISSIONS.
WHAT ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE? WHAT ARE THEY? AND FOCUS ON THOSE.
AND I THINK WHEN I HAD THE INTERVIEW, UM, WITH YOU GUYS, I THINK I SAID THAT EXACT SAME THING.
SO A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, UM, I I THINK ARE, IF IF IT'S ADMISSIONS, WHAT'S GONNA LOOK DIFFERENT A YEAR FROM NOW IF WE DO THESE ACTIVITIES? I CAN'T CONNECT THESE ACTIVITIES NECESSARILY WITH WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, WE HAVE DONE AS WE HAVE SET GOALS, I'LL JUST THINK ABOUT SOME COUNCIL GOALS.
WE'VE SAID WE WANNA GROW REVENUES AT LEAST 3% EVERY YEAR.
THERE'S A DEFINED GOAL, WE CAN MEASURE IT.
WE WANTED TO CONNECT EVERY HOME WITH FIBER IN THE CITY.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO KNOW WHETHER WE DID IT OR NOT.
I, I THINK IT, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL MAYBE IN EACH OF THE CATEGORIES ARE ALL, WHAT ARE OUR THREE BIG GOALS? WE'RE GONNA REMOVE PLASTIC FROM EVERY PART OF THE CITY.
WE'RE GONNA REDUCE ADMISSIONS BY 10%.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, BUT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME PERSONALLY CONNECTING ALL THE ACTIVITIES WITH WHAT IT WILL ACHIEVE.
AND SO IT, I'M NOT, I'M, I'M SURE ALL THE ACTIVITIES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS KEEP IT SIMPLE, TIE IT TO THE BIGGEST IMPACT AND MAKE IT A BIT AUDACIOUS.
AND I, I SHARED THAT, I MEAN, IF, IF THE GOAL IS TO REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE, SET A LOFTY GOAL, BUT MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE AND ACHIEVABLE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO ALL OF THESE THINGS.
SO WHAT ARE THE FIVE THAT REALLY MATTER? SO I I, I, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS WORK TO GET TO THAT NEXT STEP.
SO IT'S NOT THE, ANY OF THIS WORK ISN'T, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.
I DON'T, I THINK NOW YOU TAKE THIS AND SAY, OKAY, OF ALL OF THIS, WHAT ARE THE THREE THAT ARE GONNA MATTER? WHAT IS THE AUDACIOUS GOAL AND HOW WILL I KNOW IF I'VE ACHIEVED? AND, AND TO ME, THAT WOULD GIVE ME, UM, THAT WOULD GIVE ME SOMETHING GREAT TO THEN SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES OR SOMEBODY TO SAY, DOES THIS FEEL RIGHT? SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK.
'CAUSE I, I KNOW THESE ARE STEP THINGS, SO THANK YOU.
UM, AND I, I'M WONDERING IF, UH, SO AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH SECTION, WE HAVE A BOX THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE MEASURING SUCCESS.
SO THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS, UM, INCREASING THE PERCENT OF FLEET, UH, COMPOSED OF EV OR CLEANER FUEL VEHICLES TO, TO 45% OF THE CITY'S FLEET BY 2035.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE TOO SMALL FOR ME RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO MAYBE HIGHLIGHTING THOSE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE, REDUCING THAT DOWN INSTEAD OF MAYBE A LIST OF SEVEN THINGS TO JUST THE, THE THINGS OUT OF THAT, THAT ARE GONNA
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MAKE THE MOST IMPACT OR MAYBE HIGHLIGHTING THOSE THINGS BETTER IN THE PLANET ITSELF.UM, UH, 'CAUSE I THINK, I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, WE, WE DO ADDRESS IN THE PLAN THAT THOSE, THOSE, UM, UH, GOALS AND THOSE, UH, HIGH IMPACT ITEMS, BUT MAYBE HIGHLIGHTING THOSE A LITTLE SEPARATELY, UM, OR MAYBE DENOTING THEM SEPARATELY WITHIN THE PLAN.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND, AND I THINK WHAT I, I SHARED WHEN WE HAD A CONVERSATION IS IF THE PLAN IS MORE THAN 10 PAGES, IT'S TOO BIG OF A PLAN.
I THINK I SHARED THAT BECAUSE YOU, YOU CANNOT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT IF WE TRY TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THEN TRY TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT FAIR.
SO THE SHORTER THE REPORT, THE MORE CONCRETE, THE MORE PRIORITIZED.
I, I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ATTACK SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AND AS DIFFICULT AS THIS, THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS TO, IS THAT, SO THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.
I WAS GONNA SAY, MY COMMON PIGGYBACKS OFF THAT VERY WELL.
SO MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IN DEPTH TECHNICAL HUGE REPORT, AND LIKE, NO CITIZEN'S GONNA PICK THIS UP AND READ THIS AND LIKE, WONDER WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I, I AM JUST THINKING THAT WE NEED TO BOIL THIS DOWN.
I MEAN, THE INTRODUCTION IS GREAT.
IT EXPLAINS, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA READ ABOUT AND IT GIVES YOU THE FOUR.
BUT WHAT THIS REALLY NEEDS IS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WHERE IT'S JUST HERE THE FOUR GOALS WE CAME UP WITH, HERE ARE THE 10 OBJECTIVES.
WE'RE GONNA DO OUR TOP 10 PRIORITIES, BUT WE NEED LIKE A TWO PAGE, VERY SIMPLE, GET RID OF THE PLANNING JARGON, DEFINE THE TERM.
I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, JUST THINK SUSTAINABILITY'S A BUZZWORD.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS.
LIKE, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AND WE JUST NEED LIKE A TWO PAGE FLYER THAT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN WILL SAY, THAT BOILS THIS DOWN OF, I MEAN, THIS IS GREAT.
IT'S 159, IT'S VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION, BUT WE NEED TO SAY, HERE ARE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
NOW THEY CAN READ THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT AND LEARN WHY WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, BUT WE NEED A SUMMARY OF HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE,
SO I, YOUR TOP THREE WERE WAS VERY GOOD.
I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED IN HERE, THE PLAN IS A COLLEGE COURSE IN SUSTAINABILITY.
NOT AS USABLE AS I WOULD LIKE
UM, YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO PAGE 59 TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT BENCHMARK WAS FOR THE FLEET.
UM, NOT SAYING THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA GIVE US STRATEGIES AND ACTION SUGGESTIONS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, IT WILL.
BUT ONE OF THE LESSONS WE'VE LEARNED IS IN RECYCLING THAT WE HAVE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE 60% OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT RECYCLING, BECAUSE WE HAD ONE PROGRAM, WE GAVE IT GOOD MARKETING, UH, WE MADE IT EASY TO USE AND EVERYBODY USES IT.
SO I THINK THAT IF, UM, WITH KATHY AND AMY'S SUGGESTION, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THREE GOOD STRATEGIES THAT WOULD DO THE MOST IMPACT AND CONCENTRATE OUR EFFORTS ON THOSE, PROGRAM THEM, MARKET THEM, BENCHMARK THEM, SHARE WITH THE CITY HOW WE'RE DOING WITH THEM, GET THEM USED TO THE BEHAVIOR CHANGE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE AN IMPACT AND WE'LL SEE.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS THIS, THERE'S MANY THINGS IN HERE THAT DESCRIBES ACTIONS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
MICRO MOBILITY, FOR INSTANCE, THERE WERE SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS IN HERE ON MICRO MOBILITY.
PIGGYBACK THOSE WITH THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND TAKE THOSE ACTION SUGGESTIONS AND EXPAND THEM.
WHEN WE DISCUSS, UM, MICRO MOBILITY OR IF WE TALK ABOUT, UM, ADDING MORE CHARGING STATIONS, WHAT ARE THE SUGGESTIONS IN HERE? I MEAN, WE CAN CHERRY PICK THE GREAT THINGS OUT OF HERE THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING INSTEAD OF CREATING A WHOLE NEW DYNAMIC THAT'S GONNA COST MONEY, CREATE DATABASES.
UM, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET SIMPLE AND HOW DO WE CHANGE BEHAVIORS TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN SAVE THE CLIMATE A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND WE'LL HELP THEM DO IT.
UM, USING WORDS LIKE PRIORITIZE, EMPHASIZE, EXPLORE.
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I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO GET, UM, HERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO AS A CITIZEN TO HELP REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AND, UM, MAKE IT SIMPLE.UM, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, THE FIRST QUESTION, UH, FEEDBACK REGARDING THE STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS, I, I THINK THERE, I THINK IT'S, UH, THE RESEARCH IS REALLY GOOD.
AND SO WE, WE HOPEFULLY KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW, RIGHT? WHERE ARE WE? THIS IS BENCHMARKING OF THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
AND YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GO SOMEWHERE TO GET WHERE YOU WANNA GO, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU ARE.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THIS, UM, THIS BACKGROUND IS REALLY USEFUL ON THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUR X AND Y COORDINATES AS IT IS, AS IT WERE, RELATIVE TO SUSTAINABILITY.
UM, I, I THINK THE, I WOULD AGREE THAT THE, THE DRAFT PLAN IS, IS REALLY LONG.
UM, AND CERTAINLY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A PLAN AND A HANDBOOK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU WANNA HAVE A, A LONGER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WHOLE PLAN AND THIS IS THE HANDBOOK.
THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO TODAY OR, OR NOT.
I MAYBE, UM, MAYBE IF WE CAN'T PARE DOWN THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN ENOUGH, WE AT LEAST HAVE A HANDBOOK THAT IS AS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT SAYS, THESE ARE OUR NEAR TERM GOALS AND THIS IS HOW YOU CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THOSE NEAR TERM GOALS.
IF, IF ALL OF THIS DOESN'T IN FACT NEED TO BE IN THIS SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, MAYBE WE HAVE A COMPANION DOCUMENT THAT, UM, MAKES IT MORE USABLE.
YOU ASK, IS THERE ANYTHING NOT INCLUDED IN THE PLAN THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS OUR BUILDING CODE IN THIS SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, METRO CENTER AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A REVITALIZATION BECAUSE MANY OF THE BUILDINGS THERE ARE REALLY GOOD.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT OUR, UM, AT OUR BUILDING PRACTICES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT THIS AND ANY BUILDING OVER THREE STORIES BE A SLAB BUILDING RATHER THAN A STICK BUILDING, BECAUSE THOSE BUILDINGS CAN SERVE MULTIPLE PURPOSES OVER TIME.
AND THE MOST SUSTAINABLE AND THE MOST, UM, RESILIENT BUILDINGS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE WELL BUILT AND CAN SERVE MULTIPLE PURPOSES OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT, UM, AS PART OF THIS SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
AND I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE INCLUDED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE TO A SPACE WHERE IF YOUR BUILDING IS GOING TO BE OVER THREE STORIES TALL, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A SLAB BUILDING AND NOT A STICK BUILDING.
UM, BUT THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT MAKE BUILDINGS E EXTEND THE LIFESPAN OF EVERY, GIVEN ANY GIVEN BUILDING, WHICH MAKES IT MORE SUSTAINABLE BY NATURE.
UM, AND, UH, AS IT, AS IT RELATES TO, UM, REFERRING THIS TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR THEIR FEEDBACK, I, I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE A RELATIVELY TIGHT TIMEFRAME ON IT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY HAVE A ROBUST REVIEW, BUT THAT IT DOESN'T LINGER ON FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH ONLY PUSHES OUT OUR MOVEMENT TOWARDS BECOMING MORE SUSTAINABLE.
UM, SO IS THERE OTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE? MY ONLY THOUGHT WOULD BE, DOES THIS GO TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION NOW OR AFTER SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GAVE? THAT IT'S A TIMING QUESTION THAT I, I WOULD PUT FORTH BECAUSE I, I THINK IF, IF THE, IF THE CONCISENESS, THE CONSOLIDATION, THE TOP GOALS OR WHATEVER, IT MIGHT BE A MORE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
SO MAYBE IT'S A TIMING QUESTION.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD PUT OUT THERE.
YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE THIS BACK, GIVEN OUR INPUT TONIGHT BEFORE WE SEND IT TO THE, OR AT LEAST, AT LEAST MORE CONCISE.
EVEN IF IT'S, EVEN IF IT'S WRITTEN, BECAUSE I, I, I'M, I'M THINKING YOU MIGHT GET THE SAME TYPE OF FEEDBACK YOU JUST GOT, UM, FROM THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT IF, IF IT CAN BE BROUGHT TOGETHER, SIMPLIFIED, TOP COUPLE GOALS, WHATEVER, AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE GROUP, YOU, YOU MIGHT HAVE A MORE MEANINGFUL EXCHANGE.
I'M, THAT'S MY, I'M JUST PUTTING THAT THERE FOR CONVERSATION.
SO I THINK THERE WAS AGREEMENT.
WE NEED TO FIND THREE, THREE-ISH THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPACTFUL.
THE QUESTION IS, WHO'S BEST SUITED TO DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT CSAC HAS THE DATA THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO US THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW TO SAY THAT.
SO IF THEY DON'T, THEN YOU FOLKS HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.
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THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE PONDERING YOUR 200 THINGS GOING, GOING DOWN THE LIST AND PICKING THE, THE THREE-ISH THINGS THAT ARE MOST IMPACTFUL WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE AND DATA TO BACK UP WHY THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPACTFUL.I THINK THE, THE INTENT OF, UM, GOING TO CSAC WOULD BE AFTER IT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE TAKING IT TO THEM FOR THE KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS, EXCUSE ME, WOULD COME FROM CSAC BACK TO YOU FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.
SO OF THE, THOSE ACTION ITEMS OF THE GOALS.
UM, SO THIS, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A MOTION OR ANYTHING THIS EVENING.
AND THEN, UM, IF WE, WHEN WE COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU WANTED IT TO INCLUDE REFERRAL TO CSEC, AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS EVENING, UM, WITH REGARD TO NEXT STEPS, WE CAN GO BACK AND WORK ON THIS DOCUMENT DEFINITELY IS WRITTEN MORE AS AN INWARD FACING, IT'S A GREAT ROADMAP FOR STAFF WITH ALL OF THE DETAILS ON, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTATION THERE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD PRODUCED FOR PARKS AND RECREATION OR, UM, YEAH, PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN PREPARE THE MORE EXTERNAL FACING, UM, EXECUTIVE SUMMARY HANDBOOK TYPE OF DOCUMENT HIGHLIGHTING THOSE, UM, BIGGER PRIORITIES, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK WHEN THOSE MATERIALS ARE READY, UM, AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ADOPTION.
YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, CSAC TOO, LOOK AT, UM, ORDINANCES OF, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A CLASS A CITY WITH UNIQUE AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND PROGRESSIVE IDEAS, YOU GOTTA HAVE PROGRESSIVE ORDINANCES.
AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE WATER AND IT'S A CISTERN IDEA, BUT ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM REINVESTIGATE IS TOP SOIL.
BECAUSE EVERYTHING SOMETHING'S BUILT HERE, THEY BURY THE TOP SOIL UNDER FOUR FEET OF YEAR OF SOIL.
THEY DIG IT OUTTA THE BASEMENT AND THEN THEY BURY IT INSTEAD OF, IT SHOULD BE PUSHED ASIDE ON EVERY PROJECT AND THEN REUSED.
IT TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS TO GET AN INCH OF TOP SOIL.
AND THAT'S OUR NATIONAL WEALTH.
SOMEDAY, A MILLION YEARS FROM NOW, YOU MIGHT BE PLANTING A GARDEN IN YOUR FRONT YARD 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LAND TO SUSTAIN CIVILIZATION, BUT WHO KNOWS? BUT ANYWAY, THE IDEA OF WASTING TOP SOIL AND NOT HAVING THAT, UM, AND SOME KINDA LEGISLATIVE CODE WHERE DEVELOPERS, WHEN THEY COME IN, STORE THE TOP SOIL AND THEN REDISTRIBUTE IT BACK OVER THEIR CLAY WHEN THEY FINISHED THEIR PROJECT, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT MANDATE SHOULD BE MANDATED.
I KNOW THE BIA FOUGHT IT TOOTH AND NAIL BECAUSE IT WAS AN EXTRA STEP FOR THEM, BUT SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY PROGRESSIVE ORDINANCES THAT WE COULD COPY WHERE WE COULD, UH, PUT THIS ON OUR CODE.
UM, I, I WOULD ONLY ADD ONE LAST THING TO GO OFF OF WHAT JANE WAS SAYING ABOUT, UM, HOW THE RECYCLING AND HOW SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAD HAPPENED.
AND REALLY WHERE THE RECYCLING HAP STARTED WAS WE, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT THOSE LITTLE GREEN BINS INITIALLY AND THEY REALLY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.
AND THEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS, RIGHT? AND TEACH THE KIDS ABOUT RECYCLING.
AND, AND THEN FAST FORWARD, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS LATER, WE'RE DOING THE GIANT BLUE TRASH CANS, UM, AT CURBSIDE.
NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CHANGED IN THE MEANTIME, BUT I, I WOULD, PART OF THIS SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, I THINK WOULD BE THE, UM, THE EVANGELISM OF IT, RIGHT? OF HOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA ROLL THIS OUT, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OUR ENERGIES AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOUR CHILD SAYS SOMETHING AT HOME ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, PARENTS TEND TO, UM, LISTEN TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S THEIR EARTH THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE HAVING THE IMPACT ON.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT BE PART OF THE, THE ROLLOUT WHENEVER WE GET TO DOING THAT PORTION.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED FROM US? I THINK WE DO, YES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND TEAM, THAT'S, UM, THAT CERTAINLY IS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF DATA, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO.
THIS WILL BRING US TO THE NEXT OTHER BUSINESS ITEM IS THE SOUTH HIGH STREET UTILITY BURIAL PROJECT, AND WE WILL WELCOME BACK BRIAN GABLE WITH THAT STAFF REPORT.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
UM, TONIGHT, UH, WE'LL DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE, UH, STATUS OF THE SOUTH HIGH STREET UTILITY BURIAL PROJECT, UM, AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE, UH, KEY FACTORS.
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I MENTIONED, WE'LL DO A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW.UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NECESSARY EASEMENTS AND THEN THE PROJECT TIMELINE.
UM, AND AS IT RELATES AS WELL TO, UH, SOME OF THE FEATURES ALONG HIGH STREET.
UH, PROJECT OVERVIEW, UH, I'M GONNA BE VERY BRIEF ON THIS AS, UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS ON, UH, DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THIS PROJECT.
BUT, UH, AS A BIT OF A HIGH LEVEL REMINDER, UH, THE PROJECT WAS SPLIT INTO TWO PHASES, UH, AT THE REQUEST OF A EP.
UM, THEY WANTED PHASE ONE TO BE, UH, PERFORMED FIRST, UM, THAT PROVIDED THE MAIN PRIMARY, UH, BURIAL OF THEIR, UH, FACILITIES, UM, AND SOME OF THE DISTRIBUTION ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH HIGH STREET.
AND THEN PHASE TWO IS THE, UH, KIND OF REMAINDER PORTION, UH, WHICH WILL BURY THE, UH, DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF HIGH SOUTH HIGH STREET.
UM, THESE TWO PROJECTS ARE BOUNDED, UH, SEPARATELY.
PHASE ONE IS BOUNDED TO THE NORTH BY WEST BRIDGE STREET TO THE SOUTH BY SHORT STREET TO THE WEST BY FRANKLIN STREET AND TO THE EAST BY SOUTH HIGH STREET.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH HIGH STREET.
AND THEN, UH, PHASE TWO IS BOUNDED BY, UH, TO THE NORTH BY EAST BRIDGE STREET TO THE SOUTH BY SHORT STREET TO THE WEST BY SOUTH HIGH STREET, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE ONLY THIS TIME.
AND, UH, TO THE EAST, ESSENTIALLY BY BLACKSMITH LANE.
UM, AND THOSE ENTITIES RECEIVING, UH, SERVICES FROM BLACKSMITH LANE.
THE PHASE TWO PROJECT ALIGNMENT, UM, OVERALL STARTS AT SHORT STREET ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE, NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.
UM, THE PURPLE LINE IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE PRIMARY, UH, FACILITIES WILL GO, UM, TO SUPPLY, UH, POWER TO THE NECESSARY, UH, BUSINESSES ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH HIGH STREET.
UM, AND ALONG THIS PATH, YOU CAN SEE, UM, COMES DOWN SHORT STREET AND THEN GOES IN, UH, WHAT I'LL REFER TO AS THE BACK LOTS BETWEEN SOUTH HIGH STREET AND SOUTH RIVERVIEW, UH, CONTINUES THROUGH THESE BACK LOTS AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S AN OLDER SECTION, SO THEY, UH, DO KINDA WIGGLE A LITTLE BIT UP, UH, BACK AND FORTH.
SO, UM, THIS ALIGNMENT DOES ITS BEST TO, UH, CAUSE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES AND WORKS ITS WAY ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, PENNY HILL.
FROM THERE, UM, HITS A FEW PRIMARY, UH, ITEMS THERE FOR A EP AND THE OTHERS, AND THEN IT'LL CONTINUE DOWN BLACKSMITH LANE.
THEN, UH, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE ALIGNMENT UP TO WEST BRIDGE STREET, THE, UH, PURPLE YOU SEE HERE ALONG SPRING HILL, UM, IS JUST FOR A EP.
THEY NEEDED A REDUNDANT CONNECTION, UH, TO THE PHASE ONE WORK.
UM, CURRENTLY THE AERIAL LINES ARE THEIR REDUNDANT CONNECTION.
UM, SO AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS, WE REMOVE THOSE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE, UH, THIS CONNECTION GOES HERE.
UM, JUST TO NOTE THE, UH, RESIDENCE ON THE, UH, ALONG SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET, UM, ALMOST NO ONE SERVED FROM THE, UH, BLACKSMITH LANE AREA.
UM, PARTICULARLY, THERE'S NO FACILITIES ALONG, UH, THE BACK LOTS HERE.
SO WE WILL HAVE, UM, THERE'LL BE TRANSFORMERS SIZE FOR THESE RESIDENTS IF THEY SHOULD THEY EVER WANT TO CONNECT.
UM, BUT THEN SOUTH RIVERVIEW STREET, UM, THEY'LL STILL HAVE THEIR FACILITIES FROM THE FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY, UH, DURING THAT TIME.
SO THEN MOVING INTO THE, UH, EASEMENTS REQUIRED FOR THE PHASE TWO PROJECT, UM, PHASE TWO EASEMENTS.
SO, UM, WE WILL HAVE KIND OF TWO SNAPSHOTS HERE.
THE FIRST IS BETWEEN SHORT STREET AND, UH, PENNY HILL LANE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE DARK GREEN AREAS HERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE REQUIRE, UM, NEW EASEMENTS.
UM, THE OTHER KIND OF COLORIZED AREAS ARE AREAS WHERE THE EXISTING EASEMENTS, UH, EXIST OF VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES.
UM, SOME OF THESE ARE SANITARY EASEMENTS.
UH, SOME OF THESE ARE GENERAL USE EASEMENTS, UM, THAT, UH, WORK FOR THESE PURPOSES.
UH, HEREIN THE WIDTH, EXCUSE ME, THE WIDTH OF THE ACQUISITION ON THESE IS, UH, PRIMARILY 20 FEET IN THE BACK LOTS HERE.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CITY'S INTENT IS TO BE, UM, BORING THE UNDERGROUND FACILITIES IN THIS AREA SO AS TO NOT REMOVE AND IMPACT THE MATURE TREES THAT ARE ALONG THE, UH, MAIN ROUTE, WHICH THERE ARE PLENTY OF.
SO, UM, THIS ALIGNMENT DOES ITS BEST TO KIND OF AVOID MOST OF THOSE AND, AND BE ABLE TO, UH, FACILITATE THAT.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION, RYAN? OF COURSE.
UM, CAN THEY BORE THROUGH STONE? YES.
UM, AND IN FACT, UM, THE BEDROCK HERE IS A BETWEEN TWO AND THREE FEET TO
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THE TOP OF THE BEDROCK.UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MORE SOLID BEDROCK BELOW THAT, ABOUT FOUR TO SIX.
UM, PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, UH, PERFORMING THIS THROUGH A, A BEDROCK BOAR THAT'S A LITTLE DEEPER AT ABOUT FIVE FEET.
UM, AND THAT'S MAINLY SO THAT WE CAN HOLD THE INTEGRITY OF THE BORE AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT IF WE TRY TO RIDE ALONG THE EDGE OF THE TOP SOIL, THAT THAT BORE WILL JUST COLLAPSE IN ON US.
AND, UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY WELL AWARE OF THAT.
UM, THIS IS, IS THE PRIMARY SECTION OF WHERE WE HAVE SOME BEDROCK BORING IN THIS AREA.
UM, IT, IT CERTAINLY COMES AT ITS OWN COST, BUT, UM, WITH THE, THE SIZE AND THE SCALE OF THE ESTABLISHED AREA THERE, WE, WE FELT IT WAS A, AN APPROPRIATE, UM, WAY TO GO ON THIS AREA.
AND THEN THE SECOND AREA OF OUR EASEMENTS IS A LITTLE EASIER, UM, BECAUSE WE BEGIN TO USE THE BLACKSMITH LANE, UM, RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THESE ARE MORE JUST SPOTTED, UH, LITTLE SMALL, UH, AREAS HERE THAT WE WILL LOCATE THE, UM, ABOVE GROUND STRUCTURES, UH, TRANSFORMERS AND PEDESTALS AND PULL BOXES FOR, UH, EACH OF THE UTILITIES IN THESE AREAS.
MOST OF THESE ARE RATHER SMALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY USUALLY DON'T EXCEED, YOU KNOW, UH, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST WOULD BE A 10, 10 FOOT BY 15 AREA.
UM, SO MOST OF THESE ARE VERY SMALL IN THEIR SIZE OVERALL.
UM, THESE EASEMENTS WERE CREATED TO BE AS SMALL AS FEASIBLE, WHILE ALSO GIVING US A LITTLE EXTRA SPACE TO ALLOW FOR SOME LANDSCAPING, UH, THAT WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THESE A LITTLE BIT HIDDEN AS WE GO THROUGH.
UM, AND THEN JUST I'LL NOTE THE ONE HERE THAT'S KIND OF ON THE EAST SIDE, A BLACKSMITH, WHOOP, SORRY, HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW FACILITIES OR A FEW HOMES HERE THAT RECEIVE THEIR POWER AND, AND COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE REAR, UM, BECAUSE OF SOME LARGER TREES THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE TO TRY AND, AND WORK AROUND THAT.
SO THESE PROPOSED EASEMENTS, UM, WE ARE, UH, IN THE ACQUISITION PROCESS NOW, WE DID REQUEST, UH, DONATIONS FROM ALL THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, NONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS DESIRED TO DONATE THEIR EASEMENTS.
SO, UH, AS A RESULT OF THIS, WE ARE MOVING INTO THE, UH, APPRAISAL PROCESS AND NEGOTIATIONS.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, FINISHED THE APPRAISALS AND, AND WE'VE, UH, GONE AHEAD AND MOVED FORWARD WITH PROVIDING THE GOOD FAITH OFFER LETTERS TO ALL OF THESE OWNERS THEMSELVES, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TRYING TO NEGOTIATE AND ACQUIRE THE NECESSARY PROJECT EASEMENTS.
OVERALL, WE EXPECT THE ACQUISITION PROCESS TO TAKE ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIX AND 12 MONTHS, UM, AS WE GET THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, APPRAISAL, PROCESS NEGOTIATION, THEN GO THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT CITY, UH, ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND SUCH.
SO WE'RE EXPECTING THIS PROCESS TO END, UM, OPTIMISTICALLY AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, UM, WITH THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT PROBABLY CONTINUING INTO THE LATER PART OF THIS YEAR, AND POTENTIALLY EVEN VERY EARLY INTO THE NEXT, UH, 2025.
SO, UH, PROJECT SCHEDULE OVERALL, WE, WE'VE TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE OUR BEST, UH, FOR THIS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S AN EXPECTED TIMEFRAME.
UM, THE SCHEDULE COULD BE IMPACTED FURTHER IF THESE ACQUISITIONS REQUIRED ADDITIONAL TIME.
SO WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PROJECT TIMELINES.
UH, AND WE'LL START WITH PHASE ONE OVERALL, THE PHASE ONE PROJECT IS ESSENTIALLY COMPLETE.
UM, AEPS PERFORM THEIR, UH, BURIAL OF THEIR UNDERGROUND LINES AND REMOVAL OF THEIR OVERHEAD, EXCUSE ME, REMOVAL THEIR OVERHEAD ELECTRIC FACILITIES.
UM, WE STILL HAVE SOME POLES OUT THERE AS THE COMMUNICATIONS COMPANIES ARE KINDA ALL HAVING TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER.
THEY'RE A BIT INTERTWINED IN THE AREA, SO, UM, THEY CAN ONLY GO AS FAST AS THE KIND OF SLOWEST ONE GOES, UNFORTUNATELY.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE GETTING THERE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, A FEW OF THEM SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE SOME OF THEIR LAST, UH, UNDERGROUND SPLICES HERE THIS MONTH, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THOSE, UH, AERIAL FACILITIES REMOVED PROBABLY.
UH, AND THEN THE POLLS REMOVED HERE SOMETIME IN JULY, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS THERE.
THE PHASE TWO UTIL UTILITY BURIAL PROJECT, AS I MENTIONED.
UM, WE, UH, FORMALLY BEGAN DESIGN ON THIS PROJECT IN JANUARY OF 2023.
UM, WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING, UH, REGARDING THE PROJECT AND THE OVERALL ALIGNMENT AND WHERE WE KIND OF EXPECTED THE EASEMENTS TO BE IN AUGUST OF 2023, TRYING TO DISCUSS WITH SOME OF THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT SOME OF
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THESE EASEMENTS IN ADVANCE AND SEE, UH, IF WE COULD, UH, GET ANYBODY TO BE WILLING TO, UH, DONATE AND HELP FACILITATE SOME OF OUR, UH, PROCESS HERE.AND THEN IN JANUARY, 2024, WE BEGAN THE EASEMENT ACQUISITION PROCESS, AS I MENTIONED, WITH KIND OF THAT FORMAL REQUEST OF, UH, DONATION AND MOVED INTO APPRAISALS THEREAFTER.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING, UH, AND HOPING THAT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, WE WOULD BE, UH, COMPLETING THE EASEMENT ACQUISITION PROCESS.
AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S OUR OPTIMISTIC GOAL.
UM, WE ARE CERTAINLY, UH, AIMING SOMETIME BETWEEN THAT SEPTEMBER AND FEBRUARY 25 TIMEFRAME.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONSTRUCTION BID OPENING EITHER IN NOVEMBER, 2024 OR IF OUR ACQUISITIONS ARE TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
UM, WE, UH, ANTICIPATED THAT A LITTLE BIT IN OUR, OUR SUBMISSION OF THE CIP THIS YEAR, AND, UM, ENABLED OURSELVES TO BE ABLE TO BID THE PROJECT IN EARLY 25.
AND THEN, UM, OVERALL GOAL IS TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN MARCH OF 2025 WITH, UH, THE GENERAL UNDERGROUND INSTALLATION OF THE CONDUIT COMPLETE IN, I'M SORRY, JUST SAY JULY.
I MEANT MARCH 25 WITH THE OVERALL, UH, CONDUIT INSTALLATION COMPLETE IN JULY, BEGINNING THEN IN JULY WITH THE ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATIONS, UH, TRANSITION TO UNDERGROUND.
AND THEN SEPTEMBER, UM, WE DO THE CONVERSIONS OCTOBER, HOPEFULLY WE'D HAVE ALL THE, UH, AERIAL FACILITIES ABANDONED ESSENTIALLY.
AND THEN, UH, BY THE END OF EITHER OCTOBER OR, UH, THIS YEAR, WE'D BE LOOKING AT REMOVING THOSE OVERHEAD POLES ON SOUTH HIGH STREET.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, UM, WANTED TO DISCUSS BRIEFLY ABOUT, UM, SOME OF OUR FACILITIES AND, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SOUTH HIGH STREET.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A EP ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, WE DISCUSS WITH THEM AT AT LEAST YEARLY ABOUT, UM, TREE TRIMMING.
AND, UH, NOT ONLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT AREAS THEY'RE LOOKING TO TRIM, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY REMEMBER THIS IS, THIS IS AN AREA WE DON'T WANT THEM LOOKING AT REALLY, AND, AND TRYING TO TRIM.
AND IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS, WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM.
UH, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO SPEAK WITH US BEFORE, UH, PERFORMING ANYTHING OUT HERE.
UM, THE TREES THAT WERE PLANTED AS PART OF THE, UM, UH, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, UH, THOSE ARE CALLED EMERALD CITY TULIP TREES.
OVERALL, THESE TREES GROW BETWEEN TWO AND FIVE FEET PER YEAR IN IDEAL CONDITIONS.
UM, THE LOCATIONS ALONG SOUTH HIGH STREET, UH, SPEAKING WITH BOTH FORESTRY AND HORTICULTURE, UM, THEY WOULD NOT VIEW THEM AS IDEAL CONDITIONS.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL, UH, BACKFILL AND TOP SOIL FOR THESE TREES.
UM, BUT EVEN THEN IT'S, IT'S FAR FROM AN IDEAL SITUATION.
SO, UM, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE TREES TO BE ABLE TO GROW THAT MUCH.
UM, THE TWO TO FIVE RANGE, UH, EVERY YEAR WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE, UM, SOME LEVEL, UH, CERTAINLY BELOW THAT.
UM, AS A RESULT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO EXPECT THAT WE WILL BE, UH, SORRY.
AS A RESULT, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THESE TREES BEING ABLE TO GROW ENOUGH, UH, TO BE IMPACTED BY APS EXISTING POLES UNTIL WELL AFTER THE POLES ARE EXPECTED TO BE REMOVED.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, FROM THE PHOTOS HERE, THAT THE TREES AS THEY STAND RIGHT NOW ARE, ARE JUST BARELY EITHER UNDER OR BARELY TOUCHING THE LOWEST OF THE COMMUNICATION LINES ALONG SOUTH HIGH STREET.
UM, THE GOOD NEWS HERE IS THAT COMMUNICATIONS COMPANIES, UM, TYPICALLY DO NOT PERFORM TRIMMING.
AND, AND TYPICALLY THEY ONLY DO IT IN THE AREAS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY OWN, UM, THE POLES THEMSELVES.
SO A EP WOULD BE THE ONES TO BE, UH, PERFORMING TRIMMING IN THIS AREA.
UM, THEY HAVE QUITE A BIT TO GROW BEFORE THEY EVER ACTUALLY COME CLOSE TO THE, UH, LIVE PRIMARY LINES, UH, UP AT THE VERY TOP OF THE PHOTOS HERE.
UM, AND HERE'S KIND OF A COUPLE OTHER, UH, EXAMPLES.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE IS CERTAINLY BELOW THE COMMUNICATION LINES.
UM, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS JUST BARELY TOUCHING, UH, WHAT LOOKS LIKE PROBABLY CHARTER'S LINE.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UM, BE OPEN TO HEARING ANY QUESTIONS OR ANSWERING ANYTHING YOU, YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ALTA FIBER COMING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN, WHEN IT'S ALL DUG UP BACK THERE, IS THAT, ARE THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES HERE WHILE THESE TRENCHES ARE OPEN FOR ALTA FIBER TO GET INTO THESE AREAS? YEAH, SO THE PHASE ONE PROJECT WAS ONGOING.
UM, BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, EVER, YOU KNOW, DURING KIND OF THE RFP PROCESS, UM, WE WENT AHEAD AND THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD PROVIDE A, A, A SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE OR, OR FACILITATE
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THEIR INSTALLATION.UM, SO PART OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, IS KIND OF BUILD A DUBLIN CONDUIT, UH, THAT WE OWN, UH, THAT GOES ALONG PART OF THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, UM, OF BOTH OFFICIAL AND, UH, ULTA FIBER TO, UM, BE ABLE TO FACILITATE SOME OF THAT ENTRY.
AND, UH, WE BELIEVE LONG TERM WE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD ANYBODY ELSE GET INTO THE AREA, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY NEGATE SOME OF THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA BY POTENTIALLY USING THAT SAME CONDUIT.
SO, SO YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING CON WHENEVER WE OPEN UP A TRENCH OR, OR PUT ANYTHING IN, YOU'RE PUTTING IN A CONDUIT SO THAT WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO THAT TO MAKE IT EASIER WITH ALL YOUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, WE, WE DID ONE, UH, ADDITIONAL CONDUIT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE BEDROCK AND SOME OF THE SIZING REQUIREMENTS, UH, WE COULDN'T PUT IN A FULL DUCK BANK.
THE, THE COST IS, IS QUITE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, SUBSTANTIAL FOR THAT.
UM, SO WE OPTED TO DO WHAT WE KIND OF KNEW WE NEEDED PLUS A LITTLE EXTRA SPACE FOR, UM, POTENTIAL FUTURE CITY INITIATIVES OR OTHERWISE.
AND THAT WOULD BE ON, UM, MAINLINE HIGH STREET, SOUTH HIGH STREET AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE LATERALS THAT'LL BE REQUIRED TO THE PROPERTIES, THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY.
WELL, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT STAFF REPORT.
DO YOU WANNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THERE ANY, IS ANYONE PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RELATIVE TO THIS INFORMATION? HEARING NONE.
UM, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY SURPRISING TO ME THAT NO ONE WAS INTERESTED IN DONATING THEIR EASEMENTS, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT GIVEN, UM, REALLY THE GREAT ADVANTAGE THAT IS WOULD BE TO THEM, I THINK MOST EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.
IF YOU GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BURY THEIR UTILITIES, UM, JUST FOR THE DONATION OF THE EASEMENT, I, I THINK PROBABLY MOST EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY WOULD DO THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY SURPRISING THAT THERE WAS, AND YOU SAY THERE WAS NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER.
THERE'S ONE OR TWO, UH, PARCELS WERE STILL WORKING WITH.
UM, THEY'VE NEITHER EITHER INITIAL RESPONSE WAS TO NOT DONATE.
UM, WE'RE STILL HOPING, UH, THROUGH SOME FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THEY HAVE THAT THEY MAY BE WILLING TO DONATE, UM, AS WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE AREA.
AND WHAT, WHAT KIND OF INTERACTION DID WE HOST TO, TO INTRODUCE THESE CONCEPTS AND PRESENT? THAT WAS ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THE, UM, PUBLIC MEETING WE HELD IN AUGUST.
UM, WE INVITED EVERYONE ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH HIGH STREET AND INCLUDING ANYBODY WITH THE HISTORIC DUBLIN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION TO COME.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD, UH, I, I THINK, UH, ABOUT SIX PROPERTIES REPRESENTED, UH, AT THAT MEETING.
UM, WE WALKED THROUGH THE PROJECT AND DISCUSSED EVERYTHING.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDED ALL OF THAT, UM, ALL THIS INFORMATION, THE PROJECT SLIDES ON OUR WEBPAGE AS WELL.
UM, LINDSAY'S TEAM'S BEEN MORE THAN, UH, ACCOMMODATING AND HELPING US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORD GETS OUT ON THIS PROJECT.
SO, UM, AND THEN WHEN WE BEGAN THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS, WE ALSO INTRODUCED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT AND ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRE FOR, YOU KNOW, THESE OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO DONATE THESE EASEMENTS AS WELL.
SO, UM, AND YOU GOT THE SAME REACTION FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER COMMUNITY THAN YOU, THAN YOU DID THE RESIDENTIAL OWNER COMMUNITY? YEAH, GENERALLY THE SAME.
I'M REALLY SHOCKED THAT PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THE VALUE THAT WE'RE GIVING EACH HOME BY TAKING THESE TELEPHONE POLES OUTTA THEIR FRONT YARDS.
I JUST, I CAN'T, I KNOW EVERY TIME WE ASK MEREFIELD FOR AN EASEMENT, WE HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT YOU CAN HAVE THE LAND.
WE KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MISSED THAT POINT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO DOWN THERE.
WELL, UM, DID YOU GET THE INFOR THE DIRECTIVE THAT YOU NEEDED FROM US OR ALL OF THE INFORMATION? GREAT.
[STAFF COMMENTS]
WILL BRING US TO THE STAFF COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR MEETING.GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR MY STAFF COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
I'D LIKE TO SHARE UPDATES REGARDING SEVERAL ITEMS THAT ARE OF INTEREST AND PRIORITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR EACH OF THESE ITEMS. I WILL ALSO OUTLINE MY PROPOSED NEXT STEPS WITH REGARD TO FUNDING OF THEM.
I'D APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK ON THESE ITEMS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME, OR WE CAN FURTHER DISCUSS AT A FUTURE MEETING.
I CAN PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA AS OTHER.
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ALSO HAPPY TO DISCUSS MODIFYING THE PLANS SHOULD THE FULL COUNCIL DECIDE FOR ME TO DO SO.THE FIRST ITEM, UM, IS A NOISE AND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR THE HARD ROAD AREAS.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL RESIDENTS, UM, RAISE CONCERNS TO BOTH STAFF AND SPECIFICALLY I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CRAM IN THE VICINITY OF HARD ROAD REGARDING THE VOLUME OF DUMP TRAFFIC OR DUMP TRUCK TRAFFIC, AS WELL AS THE RESULT IN NOISE THAT'S BEING GENERATED.
A STUDY WAS PERFORMED IN 2011 STAFF'S PROPOSING TO RETAIN A CONSULTANT TO UPDATE THE STUDY SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COMPARE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS TO THOSE IN 2011, ASSESS, UM, THE SITUATION, AND THEN POTENTIALLY IDENTIFY OPTIONS AND NEXT STEPS.
IN ADDITION TO THE NOISE AND TRUCK ANALYSIS COMPARISON, THE STUDY WOULD ALSO TEST THE ACCURACY OF THE NEWLY ACQUIRED RAHMA NOISE METERS TO VALIDATE READINGS FROM THE HANDHELD DEVICE.
WE OBTAINED QUOTES FROM A FEW CONSULTANTS AND THE PROPOSED COST IS AROUND $45,000.
DUE TO THE TIMING OF THIS ISSUE ARISING, UM, THE PROJECT WAS NOT BUDGETED IN 2024.
WE WOULD UTILIZE GENERAL FUNDS FOR THIS, UM, TYPE OF EFFORT.
AND SHOULD COUNCIL DESIRE FOR THIS STUDY TO BE INITIATED AND OCCUR IN 2024.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
UM, STAFF COULD ADD THE FUNDING TO THE Q2 SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THE SECOND READING.
WE COULD HOLD OFF AND WE COULD INCLUDE THE FUNDING IN THE Q3 SUPPLEMENTAL, OR WE COULD PROPOSE FUNDING AS PART OF THE 2025 OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH WOULD MEAN THE STUDY WOULD BE CONDUCTED NEXT YEAR.
MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT, BASED ON THE VOLUME OF COMMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING, WOULD BE TO ADD THIS TO THE Q2 SUPPLEMENTAL FOR SECOND READING.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL.
SO AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE ANY FEEDBACK NOW OR FOLLOWING THE MEETING.
IF NOT, I WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN REALLY LOUDLY.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I, I JUST WANNA ADD ONE COMMENT.
UM, I KNOW NOT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS HEAR THIS, THESE, BUT I DID HAVE AT EAST OVEN CIVIC ASSOCIATION ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND, UM, WE HAD REALLY GOOD TURNOUT.
WE HAD ABOUT 55 RESIDENTS SHOW UP AND OVER HALF OF THEM WERE THERE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE ONE OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS WAS THIS, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND THE SAFETY.
AND SO THERE IS, WHEN, WHEN SHE SAY A FEW RESIDENTS, IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE CONTINGENCY OF RESIDENTS.
UM, AND, AND I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND DOING THE SURVEY THIS YEAR.
'CAUSE IT'S STILL, EVEN ONCE WE DO THE SURVEYS, WE STILL HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION AND TO PUSH IT ANOTHER 'CAUSE THE SUMMER'S THE WORST TIME.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS OVER THERE INVOLVED WITH THE DUMP TRUCKS.
I THINK THERE WERE TWO ACCIDENTS THIS WEEK, OR FRI LAST WEEK.
I, I HEARD THERE WERE TWO ACCIDENTS WITH DUMP TRUCKS LAST WEEK.
SO I, I, MEGAN, ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO, TO MOVE THAT ALONG EXPEDITIOUSLY, I THINK.
IT IS COMMON FOR US TO ADD ITEMS FOR SECOND READING THAT ARISE IN THE MEANTIME.
SO I'M COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.
THE, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE IS IF, IF THERE'S DOLLARS TO REMEDY IT, WE SHOULD ADD THOSE.
I MEAN THE STUDY AND IF WE HAVEN'T ANTICIPATED SO THAT WE, WE CAN MOVE ON IT BECAUSE FINDING OUT THE PROBLEM IS ONE THING, SOLVING IT IS ANOTHER.
SO IF WE KNOW SOME OF THAT NOW, I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THAT.
IF WE DON'T, THEN I GUESS WE HAVE TO WAIT, BUT, UM, WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE SHOULD FIX IT.
IS IT DUE TO, IS IT, IS IT WORSE NOW BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, GOING ON AT EITHER MOUNT CARMEL OR OTHER AREAS? THE MAJORITY OF IT, IT, IT, SO IT'S, THEY'RE COMING ON THE QUARRY ON SECTION LINE IN 42, THEY'RE COMING DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE, AND THEN THEY'RE TAKING HARD ROAD UP TO TWO 70 AND THEN THEY'RE HEADING OUT EAST.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY, IT'S NOT THE, THE CURRENT TRUCK TRAFFIC IS NOT BECAUSE OF LOCAL CONSTRUCTION.
IT IS A THROUGH ROUTE BETWEEN THE QUARRY AND TWO 70.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK THERE.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND INSERT THAT IN THE SECOND READING FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
THE NEXT THREE ITEMS THAT I HAVE ARE RELATED TO COMMUNITY EVENTS.
COUNSEL PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED DIRECTION TO ISSUE AN RFP FOR PHASE TWO OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR A POTENTIAL HOLIDAY MARKET AND FURTHERANCE OF THIS DIRECTION.
AND RFP WAS PUBLISHED IN FEBRUARY.
THE CITY RECEIVED FIVE RESPONSES TO THE RFP AND I'VE BEEN PROVIDING UPDATES IN THE MONTHLY REPORT.
UM, A COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM COMMUNITY EVENTS, PARKS AND RECREATION OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER, FINANCE, COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING VISIT DUBLIN, OHIO, AND THE DOWNTOWN STRATEGIC ALLIANCE REVIEWED THE RESPONSES AND SHORTLISTED THE PROPOSALS TO THREE.
THE THREE CONSULTANTS WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN AN INTERVIEW ON MAY 23RD.
ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS ENDED UP WITHDRAWING FROM THE PROCESS.
AND AFTER INTERVIEWING THE TWO REMAINING FIRMS, THE COMMITTEE
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UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS MOVING FORWARD WITH TOWN SQUARE FOR THIS PROJECT.TOWN SQUARE DEMONSTRATED STRONG EXPERIENCE, A KNOWLEDGE OF THE SPECIFICS OF A HOLIDAY MARKET AND A PASSION FOR IMPLEMENTING TRADITIONAL HOLIDAY MARKETS IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE PROPOSED COST, UM, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS FOR PHASE TWO OF THE STUDY IS $60,000.
AND DUE TO THE TIMING OF THE DIRECTION OF THE ISSUE TO ISSUE THE RFP, THIS PROJECT WAS NOT BUDGETED IN 2024.
WE WOULD UTILIZE HOTEL MOTEL FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
AND I'M PLANNING TO INCLUDE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR YOUR JUNE 17TH COUNCIL MEETING TO PROVIDE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON THE SELECTION PROCESS, THE CRITERIA, AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDATION TO INTRODUCE THE FIRMS THAT PROPOSED, UM, AND PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THAT DISCUSSION, THE FUNDING WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE Q3 SUPPLEMENTAL.
IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD IN ADVANCEMENT OF COUNCIL'S GOAL TO DEVELOP DUBLIN'S DESTINATION OF CHOICE NEXT GENERATION COMMUNITY EVENTS VISION AND RFP WAS ALSO ISSUED IN MARCH FOR CONSULTING SERVICES TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY EVENTS ROADMAP.
A COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM CITY COUNCIL, COMMUNITY EVENTS, PARKS AND RECREATION OFFICE OF CITY MANAGER COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING VISIT DUBLIN, OHIO IN THE DOWNTOWN DUBLIN STRATEGIC ALLIANCE.
REVIEWED THE FOUR RESPONSES RECEIVED, THE TWO SHORTLISTED RESPONDENTS PARTICIPATED IN IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS ON MAY 30TH.
THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS MOVING FORWARD WITH YARD AND COMPANY.
THEY SHOWED A STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF PLACEMAKING WITH SEVERAL EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY OF PLANS THEY'VE DEVELOPED TO PROVIDE TO COMMUNITIES TO ACTIVATE A SPACE.
THEY DISPLAYED A PASSION FOR LEVERAGING EVENTS TO CREATE COMMUNITY AND DEMONSTRATED AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT SCOPE.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER CRAM FOR SERVING ON THAT, UM, EVALUATION TEAM.
THE PROPOSED COST OF THE ROADMAP IS $50,000 DUE TO THE TIMING OF COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO ISSUE THAT RFP THE PROJECT WAS NOT BUDGETED IN 2024.
UM, HOTEL MOTEL FUNDS WOULD AGAIN BE UTILIZED FOR THAT EFFORT.
AND ONCE AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE HOLIDAY MARKET, I'M PROPOSING, UM, OR PLANNING TO INCLUDE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR YOUR JUNE 17TH COUNCIL MEETING TO PROVIDE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON THAT EVALUATION AND SELECTION PROCESS AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE 17TH, UM, THE FUNDING FOR THAT EFFORT WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE Q3 SUPPLEMENTAL.
AND THEN LASTLY, AND ALSO IN FURTHERANCE OF COUNCIL'S GOAL TO DEVELOP DUBLIN'S DESTINATION OF CHOICE NEXT GENERATION COMMUNITY EVENTS, VISION STAFF OF COLLABORATED WITH THE DOWNTOWN DUBLIN STRATEGIC ALLIANCE TO CREATE A PLAN FOR VARIOUS SMALLER SCALE SUMMER ACTIVITIES TO TAKE PLACE IN RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK AND COMPLEMENT THE VARIOUS PERMITTED ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ALREADY PLANNED THERE BY OTHERS.
UM, POTENTIAL EVENTS INCLUDE A SATURDAY MOVIE IN THE PARK WITH A LATE AFTERNOON SHOWING FOLLOWED BY AN EARLY EVENING SHOWING IN JULY, WHICH IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.
WE PLAN TO OFFER FREE EXERCISE CLASSES ON WEDNESDAY EVENINGS.
AND ANOTHER CONCEPT IS A BIG GAME NIGHT IN THE PLAZA ON THURSDAYS.
AND THAT CONCEPT COULD INVOLVE SUPER GAMES, BRINGING LARGE FORMAT GAMES SUCH AS CHECKERS, THE MATCH GAME, BATTLESHIP, AND THEN THOSE COULD ROTATE.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE, UM, STRATEGIC ALLIANCE.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS WASN'T SPECIFICALLY BUDGETED IN 2024.
WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN COVER SOME OF THESE COSTS WITH AVAILABLE FUNDS, UM, WITHIN APPROVED BUDGETS.
UM, WE PROPOSED PILOTING EACH OF THESE CONCEPTS WITH AVAILABLE FUNDS THIS SUMMER WHILE WE AWAIT ON THE COMMUNITY, UM, EVENTS ROADMAP.
AND I WANTED TO TEE UP THAT POTENTIAL THAT, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE, UM, LINE LATER THIS YEAR, WE MAY NEED TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE Q3 TO COVER EVENTS LATER IN THE YEAR, UM, DEPENDING ON THE SUCCESS OF THOSE PILOTS.
AND WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AS WELL IN A FUTURE MEETING.
AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.
HAPPY TO, AGAIN, HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN AT THIS TIME? NO.
[COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE]
THIS WILL BRING US TO THE COUNCIL ROUND TABLE PORTION OF OUR AGENDA, AND I WILL START AT MY FAR RIGHT WITH MS. GRAHAM.SO WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND THAT WAS WONDERFUL.
I DO WANT TO THANK OUR CHAIR OF THE ADMIN COMMITTEE, UH, MR. ROSS OVER THERE FOR ALL.
AND, UM, JAMIE MAXWELL, FOR ALL OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES WORK FOR ALL OF THE INTERVIEWS WE PUT IN AS ADMIN COMMITTEE.
AND THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF WORK IN IN DOING THAT.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE, KATHY, YOU, YOU GET YOUR DUE CREDIT FOR ALL THE WORK YOU PUT IN.
UH, OTHERWISE I'LL CON I JUST, ON MAY 22ND, I DID THE LAST CITIZEN U CLASS, WHICH WAS THEIR GRADUATION CLASS.
AND I JUST WANNA CONGRATS TO ALL OF OUR NEW CITIZEN U GRADS.
IT'S A SUCH A GREAT PROGRAM AND I LOVE TO SEE SO
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MANY PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY LEARNING ABOUT OUR CITY.UM, WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AFTER, UH, HEARING THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, THE GREAT PARKS MASTER PLAN, UM, PLAN AFTER PLAN AFTER PLAN, I JUST WANNA GIVE KUDOS OUT TO ALL OF OUR STAFF BECAUSE WHAT SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE, UM, REQUEST TO SAVE A LITTLE ENERGY OR HAVE A GREAT PARK TURNS INTO MASSIVE WORK FOR ALL OF YOU.
UM, I HOPE OUR CON, I HOPE OUR COMMENTS, UH, AREN'T CARRIED WRONG.
WE, IT'S JUST WORTH SAYING TO YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT WORK THAT YOU DO, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY AND IT'S A LOT OF HOURS.
UM, A SHOUT OUT AND A CONGRATULATIONS TO OFFICER, UM, BILL MORRIS WHO, UM, WHO HAS SERVED OUR CITY FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, AND ALSO OUR STUDENTS.
I'M SORRY THAT I, I MISSED THE RETIREMENT PARTY, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SAY PUBLICLY THANK YOU TO HIM AND TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AND TO OUR VISIT DUBLIN FOR THE SEVEN PRISM AWARDS.
SO COMMUNICATIONS AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND MARKETING IS, UM, STERLING AND SHINY OUT THERE, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THAT.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, SUGGEST THAT, UM, WE MAKE ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO GET SHADE TREES DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE CENTER LINE OF, UH, 1 61 FROM THE BRIDGE TO FRANZ ROAD.
I KNOW THAT WAS, WE HAD REQUESTED FROM ODOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND SOMEHOW THEY TURNED US DOWN.
AND I DO NOT KNOW THE REASONS, UH, BUT I THINK IT, IT IS JUST SCREAMING THOSE SIX LANES ARE JUST SCREAMING FOR SOME TREES.
AND IF WE COULD COME UP THERE, UH, ON EITHER SIDE AND DOWN THE MIDDLE, IT'D REALLY HELP THE AESTHETICS OF A MAJOR INTERSECTION IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN, UH, ONE OTHER COMMENT.
I, YOU KNOW, UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS HAS, UH, SAID HE'D BE INTERESTED IN HAVING A JUNIOR ROTC PROGRAM.
SO I THINK THE VETERANS COMMITTEE WILL BE WORKING WITH HIM ON THAT.
THERE WAS A PROGRAM ON MEMORIAL DAY THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.
IT SAID, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN YOUTH HAVE LOST THEIR RELIGION AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR PATRIOTISM AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE MUCH LEFT.
SO I THINK IT'D BE A REALLY, UM, IMPORTANT THING TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK THAT OUT AND GET THAT ESTABLISHED HERE.
ANDY, KATHY, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE, THE, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WERE PUT ON BOARD TONIGHT.
I, I HEARD A LOT OF VERY NICE ENERGY.
I WANTED TO PARTICULARLY THANK JAMIE MAXWELL, WHO HAS WORKED SO INCREDIBLY HARD IN THE GROUP.
UM, WHAT AN ENERGIZED, FABULOUS GROUP.
UM, AND AS WE KICK OFF SUMMER HERE AND THE KIDS ARE HOME, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE PARKS AND REX TEAM WHO, UM, WONDERFUL PROGRAMMING, WONDERFUL EVENTS.
UM, JUST SO MUCH WORK WE KNOW OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER.
AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS FOR THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ECHO THE CITY DOES REALLY LOOK GREAT.
I, IT'S ONE, IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC SPRING, BUT TWO, THERE'S BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF WORK PUT INTO IT AND IT, IT REALLY LOOKS GREAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE STAFF FOR THE WORK THEY'VE PUT INTO THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A COUPLE BRIEF UPDATES, UH, ON MAY THE 21ST.
I DID ATTEND THE COLUMBUS STATE OF THE CITY, UH, WHERE THE MESSAGES WERE, UH, REVOLVED AROUND HOUSING, POLICE AND LINK US.
UM, SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING, UM, TO SEE THAT THE PRIORITIES OF OF OUR NEIGHBOR COLUMBUS.
UM, ON MAY 22ND, I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK AT THE CODA BOARD MEETING, UM, THAT MORNING WHERE THEY DID TAKE A VOTE TO PUT LINK US ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
SO THAT IS OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE, UM, HEADED THAT DIRECTION AND REALLY THANK CODA, THE CODA BOARD FOR BEING WILLING TO DO THAT.
UM, IT WAS GOOD TO SEE OUR VETERANS COMMITTEE HERE, SOME OF OUR VETERANS COMMITTEE FOLKS HERE TONIGHT.
AND, UM, CERTAINLY I WANNA THANK ALL THOSE INVOLVED WITH THE MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION.
IT WAS, UM, NICE TO SEE SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME OUT.
UM, ON THE, UH, MAY THE 30TH, I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK AT THE COLUMBUS PARTNERSHIP MEETING THAT WAS HELD AT THE, UH, NEW RESEARCH CENTER AT THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY.
UM, AND THE POINT OF THAT WAS TO, UM, GARNER FUNDS FOR THE, UM, TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE FOR LINK US FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
SO THAT WAS, UH, WAS A REALLY GREAT MEETING AND MANY OF OUR CEOS FROM HERE IN DUBLIN WERE IN ATTENDANCE AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, WE HAD THE FOUR MILER LAST WEEK AND, UM, I'M STILL A LITTLE SORE, BUT, UH, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF OUR STAFF, I SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES, MANY OF OUR STAFF PARTICIPATED AND, UM, AMY, KATHY AND I DID AS WELL.
AND, UH, IT, IT WAS JUST A REALLY A GREAT NIGHT IN THE CITY AND PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCITED TO BE THERE.
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SO, UM, WITH THAT, WE ARE[ADJOURNMENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]
GOING TO HEAD BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, AS A CITY COUNCIL.WE WILL NOT HOLD ANY OTHER FORMER BUSINESS OUT HERE OTHER THAN TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PER PURPOSES OF PERSONNEL MATTERS CONSIDERING THE APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL, I'LL SECOND.
JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MAYOR A STROM? YES.
AND AS I SAID, WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY MORE FORMAL BUSINESS HERE ON THE DAAS OTHER THAN TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.