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GOOD EVENING,[CALL TO ORDER]
AND WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN.YOU CAN JOIN THE P MEETING IN PERSON AT 55 55 PERIMETER DRIVE OR ACCESS VIA THE LIVE STREAM ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WILL, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UH, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION, UNDERG GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU, MS. BEAL, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL MR. CHINOOK.
MR. WE HERE AND MR. AK IS EXCUSED.
UH, AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN A
[ACCEPTANCE OF DOCUMENTS and APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 7TH MEETING.THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL WHEN REZONING AND PLANNING A PROPERTY ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION.
IN SUCH CASES, THE, THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVES A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
IN OTHER CASES, THE COMMISSION HAS THE FINAL DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITY.
ANYONE WHO INTENDS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY OF THESE ADMINISTRATIVE CASES MUST BE SWORN IN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
STATE THAT NO NEW AGENDA ITEMS ARE TO BE INTRODUCED AFTER 10:30 PM THIS EVENING'S MEETING IS, UH, WILL FEATURE ONE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR ENVISION DUBLIN STAFF WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN FOR THE AGENDA TOPIC TONIGHT, AS NO DETERMINATION WILL BE PROVIDED, AND, UH, THERE IS NO NEED TO SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES THIS EVENING.
[Case #24-019ADMO]
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE ENVISION DUBLIN, MR. WAY.AND I BOTH SERVE ON THE, THE ENVISION COMMITTEE COMMITTEE, AS DOES ONE OF OUR, OUR PARTICIPANTS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
UH, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE HAS SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS, HUNDREDS OF HOURS, UH, STAFF.
THE, UM, CONSULTANT GROUP, I'M NOT REMEMBERING THEIR NAME.
UH, THE CONSULTANT GROUP AND, UH, MANY DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.
THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE HAS REPRESENTATION FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, HAS REPRESENTATION FROM THE PRIVATE PARTNERS, HAS, HAS REPRESENTATION FROM SOME OF OUR DEVELOPERS, HAS CIVIC, EVEN A STUDENT.
AND SO THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY, A WIDE DIVERSITY OF STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THE IDEA TONIGHT IS A PRESENTATION TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AS A STEERING COMMITTEE.
YOU RECEIVED A MEMO TALKING ABOUT THIS IS THE, WE INTRODUCED THAT IT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
WE INTRODUCED THAT IT WAS HAPPENING WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING.
NOW THAT WE'RE COMING TO A, A, AN AREA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS AS AN ACTION ITEM AND FORWARD IT TO CITY COUNCIL, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.
SO, WE TALK ABOUT IN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE TALK ABOUT CRAYONS AND DUPLOS.
SO THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION TO THE DUPLO.
WE EXPECT THAT ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS HAPPEN BETWEEN EACH OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND STAFF TO GO DOWN TO THAT DUPLO LEVEL.
UH, SORRY TO GO DOWN TO THAT LEGO LEVEL TO ACTUALLY GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS.
THE ENTIRE PLAN IS PRESENTED FOR US.
HOWEVER, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT THE AREAS THAT AFFECT US.
OF COURSE, WE WANT PERSPECTIVE FROM EVERYONE.
HOWEVER, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE LIKE SEWER AND STORM DRAIN THAT DON'T NECESSARILY NEED ACTION NEEDS SCRUTINY FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THOUGH OUR PERSPECTIVES ARE WIDE AND VARIED AND USEFUL AND WANTED IN THAT DISCUSSION.
MS. ASH, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD ADD TO THE INTRODUCTION AND WHAT THE GOALS OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION ARE? YEAH, AGAIN, I'M GONNA, AS YOU SHARED, I'M GONNA GIVE A, UM, SORT OF A DETAILED PRESENTATION OF THE WORK THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE'S DONE, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE BREADTH, UM, AS THE AS CHAIR, UM, PERSON CALL HAS SAID, WE'VE REALLY WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO COME UP WITH, UM, THIS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE PLAN.
SO I'M GONNA TALK THROUGH THAT.
TONIGHT, I'VE PRINTED OUT COPIES.
AGAIN, IF YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT, THAT'S GREAT AND HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU, YOUR INITIAL, UM, REACTION AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED.
UM, THIS, AGAIN, THE STEERING COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PRETTY THOROUGH, UM, AND COME BACK WITH A LOT OF DATA, UM, AND
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RESEARCH BEHIND THEM.SO I THINK TONIGHT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO USE THIS IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS.
SO ARE THERE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE, UM, ADDED OR BEEFED UP OR THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD HELP YOU IN DOING THAT, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO, AGAIN, HAPPY TO TALK AT LENGTH ON WHAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT.
AND THEN AS UH MENTIONED, WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET INDIVIDUALLY AND TALK ABOUT DETAILED QUESTIONS.
SO, SO THEN OFFICIALLY READING IN, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS CASE NUMBER 24 DASH ZERO NINE A DMO.
THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN, A VITAL POLICY DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSION BASED ON THE CITY'S STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AND THE COMMUNITY'S SHARED VISION, VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
SO, WITH THAT INTRODUCTION, MS. ROUSH, I WILL TURN THE TIME OVER TO YOU FOR THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE EFFORT THAT'S GONE INTO PREPARING FOR THIS EVENING.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN AN EXCITING PROCESS.
UM, SO I THOUGHT I WOULD START WITH, UM, THE TIMELINE AND THE, AND THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THROUGHOUT THIS, UM, ENVISION DUBLIN UPDATE, WHICH WILL THEN HELP TALK THROUGH THE DIFFERENT TASKS AND SORT OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF EACH OF THOSE, WHICH WE INCLUDED IN THE MEMO.
SO, UM, WE STARTED THIS BACK IN 2022 AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, AND WORKED THROUGH THAT PROJECT INITIATION TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHICH IS MOVING TOWARDS THE RED, UM, PART OF THIS, WHICH IS RED MEANS GOOD IN THIS, UM, IN THIS SCENARIO BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING TO THIS DRAFT, UM, THIS DRAFT FINAL PLAN, UM, THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE AT THE END OF APRIL, AND THEN MOVE THROUGH THAT PUBLIC ADOPTION PROCESS.
AND I HAVE SOME SLIDES AT THE END, UM, THAT TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
SO IT'S BEEN A VERY DETAILED AND THOROUGH PROCESS IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, ON A REALLY GREAT, GREAT DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT'S GONNA HELP US DO OUR JOBS.
SO, UM, AS MENTIONED, WE HAVE A PRETTY, UM, THOROUGH CONSULTANT TEAM THAT'S BEEN HELPING US.
KIMLEY HORN, UM, HOUSE OF LEVINE, MH AND T TOOL DESIGN, TISLER VICE, UM, MS CONSULTANTS DOING ALL KINDS OF, UM, SPECIFIC MODELING AND RESEARCH, UM, AND, AND DATA, UM, ANALYSIS TO HELP US MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN IS SOLID FROM ALL ASPECTS.
UM, I'VE SHARED THIS BEFORE AS WELL, BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T, THERE'S THE CONSULTANT COORDINATION WITH STAFF, BUT ALSO ALSO SORT OF INTERNAL COORDINATION AND COORDINATION OF OTHER PLANNING PROJECTS AND PROCESSES THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
SO WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, WORKING TOGETHER, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM PREVIOUS THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED, LIKE THE HOUSING STUDY PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WEST PASSENGER RAIL AND EAST BRIDGE STREET CORRIDOR STUDY, WHICH YOU'LL SEE GLIMPSES OF THOSE, UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, BUT HOW ARE WE INTEGRATING THOSE AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S ALL ALIGNING.
SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, AS WELL AS THEN JUST OUR, AS MENTIONED, MOBILITY, TRANSPORTATION, THOROUGHFARE PLANNING, UTILITY MODELING, FISCAL MODELING.
SO THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THIS PLAN.
UM, ALSO AS MENTIONED, THE STEERING COMMITTEE, SO COUNCIL, UM, APPROVED OF THIS PROCESS OF A STEERING COMMITTEE LEADING, UM, THE CHARGE FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE.
IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT MODELS WHERE IT WAS A JOINT WORK SESSION OF PLANNING, COMMISSIONING COUNCIL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
SO WITH THIS, GIVEN THAT IT'S AN UPDATE TO THE EXISTING PLAN COUNCIL, REALLY FELT LIKE THE STEERING COMMITTEE GIVEN THIS BREADTH OF, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT REPRESENT, YOU KNOW, ALL DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS.
SO IT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT PROCESS, UM, I THINK, AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD CROSS SECTION OF INDIVIDUALS AND GREAT PARTICIPATION.
'CAUSE THIS, AGAIN, HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR LONG PROCESS, AND WE REALLY CONSISTENTLY HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT FROM OUR, FROM OUR MEMBERS, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT.
UM, UM, SO OUR PLANNING BOUNDARY, WHICH WE'VE SHARED BEFORE, REALLY LOOKS AT THE CITY OF DUBLIN, WHICH IS THAT LIGHTER GREEN AREA.
AND THEN THE DARKER GREEN IS AREA OUTSIDE OF OUR, UM, CITY LIMITS, BUT WHERE WE WANT REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT LAND USE TRAFFIC, UM, ALL THOSE PIECES AND HOW DO WE HELP PLAN FOR GROWTH AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THOSE AREAS OUTSIDE THE CITY.
AND ALSO INCLUDING OUR COORDINATION WITH THOSE REGIONAL PARTNERS.
SO AS PART OF THIS, UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, INCLUDING OUR NEIGHBORS.
SO, UM, THAT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS TO SEE WHERE WE ALIGN AREAS WHERE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO HAVE FURTHER COMMUNICATION AS WELL.
UM, SO AS I SHOWED, UM, EARLIER, WE RIGHT, HAD THESE SORT OF EIGHT TASKS OUTLINED.
SO THE PROJECT INITIATION WAS TASK ONE, SO THAT REALLY WAS THAT DECEMBER TO MARCH TIMEFRAME, WHICH WAS REALLY THAT KICKOFF OF THE PLAN.
SO INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, CREATING OUR BRANDING, CREATING A WEBSITE, WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS TEAM, UM, TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED AND LEARN ABOUT DUBLIN.
UM, AND THAT REALLY WAS THAT SORT OF FIRST THREE MONTH PERIOD AND REALLY HAD THAT INITIAL COMMUNITY UNVEILING, UM, AT THE STATE OF THE COMMUNITY OVER A YEAR AGO, UM, WHERE WE HAD OVER 300 ATTENDEES AT THAT MEETING, UM, TO SORT OF LEARN ABOUT THE CITY IN GENERAL.
BUT WE HAD A STATION FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT REALLY HELPED KICK THAT OFF.
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SO WITHIN THIS FIRST TASK, OUR, OUR PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS FOR THAT WERE, AGAIN, ALL THOSE REVIEW OF ONGOING PLANS AND STUDIES UNVEILING THIS PUBLICLY AND REALLY GETTING THAT ESTABLISHED IN THE COMMUNITY.SO IF EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE SECOND TASK, THIS REALLY KICKED OFF OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF THIS, WHICH STARTED IN THAT MARCH TIMEFRAME HAS BEEN ONGOING UP AND THROUGH, UM, TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK, WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, TO LOOK AT THE AREA PLANS.
SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN A MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, INCLUDING BEING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD BUSINESS WORKSHOPS.
WE TOOK, YOU KNOW, DO IT YOURSELF KITS TO DIFFERENT GROUPS TO GET THEIR INPUT.
WE WERE IN THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE, SO SOME REALLY UNIQUE THINGS, UM, FOR US FARMERS' MARKET.
THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF US DOING THAT.
SO, UM, BEING ON THE PLAZA IN THE, UH, RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK.
SO IT'S BEEN REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD PARTICIPATION, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS, UM, PROCESS.
UM, AGAIN, HERE'S JUST SORT OF A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF SOME OF THE GREAT, UM, PROJECT INPUT THAT WE'VE HAD ALONG THE WAY.
WE'VE HAD SOME VISIONING SESSIONS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS THAT I MENTIONED.
SO WE'VE REALLY HAD SOME GOOD, UM, GOOD PARTICIPATION THROUGHOUT THIS.
UM, SO, SO FAR WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALLY THIS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
UM, WE'VE HAD OVER 5,000 POINTS OF ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT.
UM, OVER 36 MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS.
UM, I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, OUR SURVEY RESULTS, UM, AND REALLY PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS.
WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, SHARING THAT.
SO OVER 2000, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AS WELL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
UM, THAT THEN LED INTO TASKS THREE.
SO UNDER, YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTANT TEAMS UNDERSTANDING, UM, OUR COMMUNITY AND GETTING THAT INITIAL PUBLIC INPUT REALLY HELPED US DO THIS EXISTING CON CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT.
SO THAT REALLY HELPED US FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS? MAKING SURE THAT THIS PLAN IS REALLY GROUNDED IN WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE.
SO THIS EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT, UM, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN LIKE A JUNE, AUGUST TIMEFRAME, UM, AS WELL AS COUNCIL, THAT WAS A REALLY THE FIRST DELIVERABLE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
SO THEY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT IN GREAT DETAIL, PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS.
WE UPDATED THAT, AND THEN A FINAL VERSION WAS PROVIDED TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE IN AUGUST.
BUT THAT REALLY HELPED SET THE TONE FOR HOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE FOCUSED ON THESE KEY TAKEAWAYS AND MAKING SURE THE PLAN IS ADDRESSING THAT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THOSE REALLY FOCUS ON THE GROWTH PRESSURES THAT WE'RE SEEING.
HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS, HOUSEHOLD COMPOSITION, UM, HOUSING MIX, HOW ARE WE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY? SO THAT WAS A BIG PART OF IT.
UM, COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUR VISION FOR THE FUTURE? THAT WAS A BIG KEY COMPONENT.
UM, AGAIN, HOUSING VARIETY, EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT WAS ALSO SOMETHING, UM, REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT IMPACTING OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS IN A NEGATIVE WAY? WHAT ARE SOME REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT, UM, TO SUPPORT THEM? AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT THESE ECONOMIC TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING FROM THE PANDEMIC, FROM THE CHANGE IN WAY PEOPLE WORK, UM, WHERE THEY WORK, WHY PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK TO THE OFFICE.
SO THIS, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT HOW ARE THESE TRENDS BEING REFLECTED IN THE PLAN.
UM, AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH, THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY KEY, KEY COMPONENT IN DISCUSSION OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
SO FROM THAT EXISTING CONDITIONS, WHICH IS REALLY LIKE THE WHERE ARE WE NOW, PIECE OF THIS, THEN THAT HELPED LEAD US INTO ESTABLISHING OUR GOALS AND VISION FOR THIS.
UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY THE SECOND DELIVERABLE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S SORT OF THE CORNERSTONE OF THIS PLAN, WHAT'S OUR VISION, UM, FOR THE FUTURE IN OUTLINING THOSE, UM, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES RIGHT UP FRONT THAT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN INCLUDES.
UM, AND WE HAD A COMMUNITY VISIONING WORKSHOP, SO, UM, I BELIEVE MR. CHINOOK WAS THERE, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF MY OTHER, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND YOU SITTING AROUND THE TABLE LOOKING AT MAPS AND PROVIDING THEIR COMMENTS AND COMMENTARY, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT AND HELPED A LOT OF, UM, SIMILARITIES IN THE COMMENTS PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS WITH THAT, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT TO SEE.
LIKE THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED, OKAY, THESE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO, SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD VALIDATION, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, WHICH REALLY LED TO THOSE, TO THOSE VISION AND GOALS, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE SORT OF OUR KEY HIGHLIGHTS, AND AGAIN, STRESSING THE IMPORTANCE THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW DO WE STRESS THE IMPORTANCE WITH THE CONNECTION TO THE CITY'S STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK, SO THE RESILIENCY, CONNECTION, AND SUSTAINABILITY.
SO, UM, WHEN THE PLAN COMES FORWARD, YOU'LL SEE THAT EACH CHAPTER REALLY TALKS ABOUT AND TRIES TO HIGHLIGHT HOW ALL THOSE PIECES COME TOGETHER.
UM, AGAIN, KNOW, KNOWING THAT THOSE, THOSE ARE COUNCIL'S, UM, SORT OF BIG STRATEGIC GOALS FOR US.
SO THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION AT THE STEERING COMMITTEE AS WELL.
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CREATION OF, UM, THE SPECIAL AREA PLANS AND THE PREFERRED, UM, LAND USE SCENARIO, WHICH WE'LL GO OVER THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WHEN I'M DONE WITH, UM, THE BACKGROUND PIECE OF THIS.BUT THAT'S REALLY THE PIECES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, WHICH THIS WAS HONESTLY THE BULK OF OUR WORK.
SO THIS WAS LIKE ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS OF OUR TIME, UM, BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A LOT OF ITERATION.
SO, UM, THE SPECIAL AREA PLANS WE HAD IN OUR PREVIOUS PLAN, I THINK WE HAD NINE.
UM, WHICH THIS PLAN, WE IDENTIFIED SIX, WHICH IN SOME INSTANCES INCLUDED, UM, SUCH AS THE EMERALD CORRIDOR, WHICH IS THAT GREEN SWAP THAT SORT OF RUNS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TWO 70, OBVIOUSLY ALONG THE EMERALD PARKWAY.
UM, SO THAT COMBINES SEVERAL OF THEM.
UM, WE'VE MODIFIED BOUNDARIES TO THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT TO ALIGN WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE DISCUSSION, UM, DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN THAT IS MODIFIED A LITTLE BIT TO ALLOW THAT EMERALD CORRIDOR, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, TO BE INCORPORATED IN THERE.
SO REALLY LOOKING AT EACH OF THESE PLANS AND THE CHARACTER OF THEM AND THE DETAILED DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD WANT SEE WITHIN THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TWO, UM, TARGETED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UM, FOCUSES ON, ON THE SPECIAL AREA PLANS.
SO I'VE INCLUDED THESE IN HERE JUST AS A SNAPSHOT, BUT WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SPECIFICALLY, SO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, IS REALLY TAKING THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT OUT OF BRIDGE STREET, UM, THAT, THAT REALLY WAS COUNCIL'S DIRECTIVE THAT WE, THIS WAS SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE.
THIS SHOULDN'T BE INCORPORATED IN BRIDGE STREET ANYMORE.
SO THAT NEEDED TO BE PULLED OUT.
UM, THE SPEC, OR EXCUSE ME, THE SOUTHWEST AREA, UM, IS OBVIOUSLY THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY, BUT OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, UM, THAT'S CONSISTENTLY WHERE WE'VE, UM, BEEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE BULK OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEN HOW DOES THAT TRANSITION TO THEN, UM, THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
UM, SO THAT DISTRICT HAS GROWN A LITTLE BIT, UM, WITH FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ENSURING THAT EMPLOYMENT BASE IS REALLY MET THERE AND WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AND HOW THAT COMES TOGETHER.
UM, AND THEN THE EMERALD CORRIDOR, AS I MENTIONED THIS, SO THIS IS PULLING TOGETHER SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS.
THE THEME IS THE SAME, THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CORRIDORS.
SO HOW ARE WE, UM, TARGETING DEVELOPMENT AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SUPPORT THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT AS WELL, UM, THAT LARGELY REMAINS THE SAME, MORE TARGETED RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON OUR FEEDBACK, UM, AND, AND LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 12 YEARS WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN.
SO, UM, WE HAVE SOME SITE SPECIFIC PIECES IN HERE, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, WE HAVE OUR METRO CENTER IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT'S UNDERWAY AS WELL.
UM, SO HOW ARE WE, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO BE COORDINATED AS WELL.
UM, SO THIS TASK FIVE AND TASK SIX WERE REALLY LINKED TOGETHER, UM, WHICH WAS AGAIN, THIS MIDDLE PART OF THE WORK, WHICH IS REALLY LOOKING AT HOW THESE INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER OF THESE AREAS THEN HELP IDENTIFY THESE LAND USE SCENARIOS.
SO, UM, AND IT'S BEEN, AGAIN, ITERATIVE.
WE TALK ABOUT LAND USE, THEN WE TALK ABOUT SPECIAL AREA PLANS, 'CAUSE THE DETAILS MATTER, AND THAT HELPS INFORM WHAT COLORS GET PUT ON THE MAP, RIGHT? THAT, THAT'S REALLY A PRINCIPALLY, UM, A KEY COMPONENT OF THIS.
AND THIS ALSO WAS THE BULK OF OUR COORDINATION WITH TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY, AND UTILITIES.
BECAUSE IF THE ROAD NETWORK DOESN'T WORK AND YOU CAN'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER, THEN WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS.
AND CAN YOU FISCALLY SUPPORT THIS FROM A CITY STANDPOINT? SO, UH, THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS IT ALL WORKS, SO, WHICH IS GOOD.
UM, BUT THAT AGAIN, TOOK, IT SOUNDS EASIER THAN IT WAS.
SO, UM, WE WENT THROUGH MULTIPLE SCENARIOS, UM, TO GET THERE.
SO WE HAD OUR CURRENT LAND USE, WHICH IS BASED ON THE CURRENT PLAN THAN WE HAD, UM, TWO OTHER ALTERNATIVES, UM, THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE LOOKED AT AND PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON, WHICH THEN HAS LED US TO OUR, UM, PREFERRED SCENARIO.
BUT THE BIGGEST GOALS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS IS, AGAIN, WHERE CAN WE PROVIDE THESE MIXED USE CENTERS? WHERE IS THAT APPROPRIATE? UH, PARTICULARLY FOCUSING ON DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN, BRIDGE STREET, AND WEST INNOVATION, MAKING SURE THAT THAT I TWO 70 CORRIDOR, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AT THE COMMISSION BEFORE, IS REALLY PRESERVED FOR THOSE EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES.
SO THAT OBVIOUSLY HOUSING, UM, AND THOSE USES SHOULD NOT BE LOCATED ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS.
UM, CONCENTRATING, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AT KEY KEY LOCATIONS, INCLUDING TUTTLE AND 1 61, UM, AGAIN, SO THAT WE'RE PUTTING DEVELOPMENT IN THE RIGHT PLACES.
UM, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, EXPANDING OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN GROWTH AREAS, AGAIN, SUPPORTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT AS WELL.
AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO CO COOPERATE WITH OUR SURROUNDING JURISDICTION.
SO A LOT OF, UM, STEERING COMMITTEE DIRECTION TO IDENTIFY SORT OF THOSE GOALS THAT HELPED GUIDE US.
AND THEN THE NUANCES THEN ULTIMATELY LED US TO THIS PREFERREDLY IN USE SCENARIO.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, AND AGAIN, HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH HOW WE GOT TO THOSE, UM,
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PARTICULAR LAND USES.UM, WE ALSO THEN WITHIN THIS PLAN, OUR PREVIOUS PLAN HAD, I THINK LIKE OVER 20, UH, LAND USE CATEGORIES, 19 MAYBE IN OUR PREVIOUS PLAN.
WE HAVE, UM, MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT AND REDUCED THAT TO 16, UM, WITHIN THEN THE OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN OUR CURRENT PLAN TO REALLY HELP IDENTIFY FROM A CHARACTER STANDPOINT.
SO NOT JUST DENSITIES OR, UM, USES, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT IN THIS PARTICULAR LAND USE CATEGORY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CHARACTERISTICS HELP DEFINE THAT SO THAT WHEN IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU, RIGHT, IT'S NOT JUST ANY RESIDENTIAL TYPE THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT IT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THEN THIS DOCUMENT IS.
SO THAT'S EACH OF THOSE LAND USE WITH THEN SOME CHARACTER IMAGE PICTURES, SO YOU GET A SENSE OF THAT.
SO WE REALLY HAVE OUR SORT OF FOUR KEY RESIDENTIAL, LOW SUBURBAN, MIXED, AND MEDIUM.
AND AGAIN, HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY OF THOSE IN DETAIL.
WE THEN HAVE FOUR MIXED USE DISTRICTS, UM, THAT VARY IN TERMS OF THEIR CHARACTER AND STYLE, UM, AND SORT OF WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE ORGANIZED AROUND.
SO THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT THE STEERING COMMITTEE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS FOR TOO MANY, SHOULD THERE BE COMBINATIONS OF THAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENT, UM, GOALS, WHICH WITH EACH OF THOSE.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY, I THINK WILL BE A CONVERSATION AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, UM, TO OUR FINAL DRAFT.
AND THEN OUR EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES, SO OUR VARIOUS OFFICES, FLEX INNOVATION INDUSTRIAL USES AS WELL, UM, AND THEN INCLUDING SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AND THEN, RIGHT, OUR CIVIC PARKS, OPEN SPACE, AGRICULTURAL.
SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR EACH OF THOSE, BUT THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER.
UM, SO THEN AS I MENTIONED, AND JEANNIE, UM, WILLIS PRESENTED THIS AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, UM, JUST A QUICK REMINDER DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SO NOT ONLY THE LAND USE PIECE OF THIS, BUT HOW DOES THIS TIE INTO THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY COMPONENT OF THIS? UM, AND, AND OUR CHANGING OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE PRIORITIZE PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLE AND, YOU KNOW, SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE STEERING COMMITTEE LEVEL, UM, THAT LED TO THEN THE DETERMINATION FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS PARADIGM ON THE RIGHT.
SO HOW DOES THAT THEN TRANSLATE TO OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, OUR MULTIMODAL, UM, AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
SO THOSE ALL NEED TO GET TIED TOGETHER.
SO THAT THEN RESULTED IN THE CREATION OF OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT REALLY HELPED PRIORITIZE, UM, OUR STREETS AND HOW WE'RE HANDLING THAT DOWN TO COMING UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DRAFT STREET SECTIONS WITH THE STEER, WHICH THE STEERING COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED.
UM, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT OUR PLANNED FUTURE ROADWAYS, UM, AND HOW THOSE FIT TOGETHER, INCLUDING OUR NEW SIGNATURE, UH, GREENWAY OR STREET, WHICH IS, OR CORRIDOR GOODNESS, WHICH IS THE GREEN, UM, AREA THAT SORT OF RUNS THROUGH THE CITY.
SO THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION, UM, AS WELL.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA PROMOTE ALL MODES OF TRAFFIC.
SO THIS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS A KEY COMPONENT OF THAT.
SO LOOKING AT OUR, FOR DUBLIN, OUR FIRST MOBILITY PLAN, HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THIS SHIFT IN HOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON SERVICE, UM, FOR ALL LEVELS.
AND THEN SORT OF THOSE TWO PIECES COMBINED, CREATE THIS MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UM, WHICH IDENTIFIES RIGHT OF WAY, WIDTHS, ALL THOSE PIECES.
SO IT'S REALLY PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER, UM, AND HELPING TO INFORM HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD FROM A TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
SO AGAIN, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MODELING BASED ON THAT, UH, PREFERRED LAND USE AND THE PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF OUR LAND USE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORKS.
UM, AND WE'VE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL STREET CONNECTIONS WHERE THOSE ARE NEEDED, UM, THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND REGIONALLY, HONESTLY, WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE AREAS OUTSIDE THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO COORDINATE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO PROVIDE SOME, UM, IMPROVED TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES TOO.
UM, AND THEN OUR SEWER, SHE WATER PRESSURE DISTRICTS, MICHAEL GAVE A, UM, HENDERSHOT GAVE A NICE DETAILED PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION TOO.
UM, AGAIN, MORAL OF THAT STORY IS, THAT WORKS TOO.
SO I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME THINGS.
UM, IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
UM, AND HE'D LOVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT, I'M SURE.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.
AND HOW ARE WE, UM, YOU KNOW, DIVIDING UP THESE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN SERVE ALL OF OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS.
SO THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
SO, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME, UM, GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS COME OUT OF THAT AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ALL FITS TOGETHER.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS RESULTED IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE COMING UP WITH THIS PREFERRED LAND USE PLAN, UM, THOROUGHFARE PLAN, MOBILITY, ALL THOSE PIECES AND UTILITY ANALYSIS.
SO THAT AGAIN, IS WHERE WE'VE SPENT THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS COMING UP WITH, UM, THIS PLAN.
AND SO THEN FROM THERE, WE'RE TAKING ALL THOSE PIECES, UM, AND CREATING OUR DRAFT DOCUMENTS.
SO AGAIN, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS LIKE ONE 10TH OF WHAT THIS WILL ULTIMATELY LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO WE HAVE DRAFT VERSIONS OF,
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UM, ALL THE CHAPTERS, UM, IN VARIOUS STAGES.AND THE GOAL OF THAT IS FOR THAT TO BE, UM, PRESENTED TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE IN APRIL.
SO THEY'LL SEE THAT SORT OF FINAL DRAFT.
UM, AND THEN IT WILL COME BEFORE, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, WE'RE THINKING AT POTENTIALLY THAT MAY 23RD MEETING.
SO THAT GIVES A CHANCE FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO MAKE COMMENTS AND FOR US TO, UM, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES.
SO, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE HAD A, A COMMUNITY MEETING ON TUESDAY, WHICH WAS, UM, NICELY ATTENDED AND GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK AND SUPPORT FOR THE SPECIAL AREA PLANS AND PREFERRED LAND USE SCENARIO.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY OFFERING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND WANNA TALK THROUGH THINGS.
UM, SO WE CAN GET INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE DETAILED CONVERSATION.
UM, AND THEN OUR ENVISION DUBLIN STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL ENTER THE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS.
SO THAT'S AGAIN, WHY WE WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO HELP CONTINUE TO PRIME THIS CONVERSATION SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO YOU IN MAY, YOU'RE FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU FEEL LIKE AT THAT POINT YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL OF THAT.
BUT THEN I DEFINITELY WANTED TO SORT OF, NOT NECESSARILY GO PAGE BY PAGE, BUT JUST TALK THROUGH THE FORMAT OF THIS ANSWER, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO, SO THEN THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD CHALLENGE THE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THINKING OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD RECENTLY AND WHERE YOU HAVEN'T, YOU HAVEN'T FELT LIKE YOU HAD ALL OF THE RESOURCES YOU NEEDED TO KNOW, DOES THIS APPLICATION MEET CODE? DOES IT NOT MEET CODE? DOES THIS FIT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN? DOES IT NOT FIT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN? SO LEVERAGING THOSE PREVIOUS AND MOSTLY RECENT EXPERIENCES WITH, DOES THIS HELP OR IS THERE STILL A HOLE? IS THERE A VOID WHERE YOU STILL THINK, HEY, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE ALL OF THE TOOLS.
IF WE BEEFED UP THIS AREA, THEN I WOULD FEEL LIKE IN MY, MY TOOL CHEST, I HAD ENOUGH DETAILED DOCUMENTATION TO LEVERAGE SHOULD ANOTHER APPLICATION COME FORWARD TOMORROW.
YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS WHAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE GOT AT THE END OF MARCH.
SO WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN COMMENTS, UM, BY SOME OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AGAIN, WE HAD THIS PUBLIC MEETING THE OTHER DAY, STAFF HAS BEEN CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE LAST TIME THE STEERING COMMITTEE SAW IT.
UM, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, THERE BEING SOME ADDITIONAL REFINEMENT AND THERE'S, I KNOW THERE'S SOME TYPOS IN THERE, UM, DESPITE OUR BEST EFFORTS.
SO, UM, AGAIN, KEEPING IT AT THAT REALLY HIGH LEVEL TO, TO REBECCA'S POINT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU DO YOUR JOB BETTER? UM, THAT'S HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TOO.
SO, AND MAYBE AGAIN, WE CAN, SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO START.
SO THIS, YOU KNOW, PREFERRED LAND USE MAP AND ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S SHOWN WHERE AND WHY, I AM HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THAT.
AND THEN THAT TIES IN NICELY TO THE, UM, LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS.
AND AGAIN, WE REALLY WANTED TO HELP OURSELVES IN THIS, IN IDENTIFYING, RIGHT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE USES THAT WE SEE HERE? DENSITIES, WE REALLY, PARTICULARLY FOR RESIDENTIAL, UM, HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT IN A VERY MEANINGFUL WAY? UM, BUT THEN REALLY GETTING INTO LIKE BUILDING FORM AND ORIENTATION.
SO WHAT COULD YOU EXPECT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE? UM, 'CAUSE AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION, LIKE NOT ALL RESIDENTIAL IS CREATED EQUAL.
SO HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE IN, YOU KNOW, ENSURING QUALITY NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, SUSTAINABILITY, AGAIN, MAKING THAT TIE TO WHAT DO WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE SUSTAINABLE MEASURES THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS, UM, OPEN SPACE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS, WHETHER THAT'S A FORMALIZED SOMETHING OR IT'S A MORE NATURAL, UM, STREET SCAPE, WHAT'S THAT STANDARD FEEL LIKE? RIGHT? IS IT A HUGE SETBACKS WITH WIDE SIDEWALKS OR IS IT A MUCH MORE URBAN CONDITION WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE CLOSER TO THE STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO START, UM, IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CHANGED.
SO BETWEEN THE LAST TIME WE HAD A COMMUNITY PLAN MM-HMM.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED, NOT JUST INSIDE THE CITY OF DUBLIN, BUT ALSO IN IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AREAS, CORRECT.
HOW THAT WOULD AND SHOULD AFFECT THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
THERE WERE SOME INITIATIVES PUT FORWARD BY CITY COUNCIL SAYING, HEY, WE WANNA LOOK AT THESE STRATEGIC GOALS.
AND SO HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT THOSE? HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO A COMMUNITY PLAN? UH, ONE OF THOSE, UM, CAN YOU TALK THROUGH, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HELP ME.
WHAT IS THE WORD FOR THE, THE MAIN CORRIDOR? THE, YES.
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TRAIL.SO IF YOU COULD TALK THROUGH IT.
KIM REMEMBERS THESE WORDS BETTER THAN I DO.
THE SIGNATURE TRAIL, WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT OF THOSE STRATEGIC GOALS, HOW THAT MEETS THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN MM-HMM.
SO I THINK THE BIGGEST AREAS, UM, WHERE YOU'LL SEE, AND THAT ALSO IS HELP, IS REFLECTED IN THESE SPECIAL AREA PLANS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, IS WITHIN THAT WEST INNOVATION AREA.
SO WHAT WE FINALLY CALL THE PURPLE AREA, UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S OUR, UH, FLEX INNOVATION AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN, UM, MODIFIED PARTICULARLY, UM, IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY.
AND AGAIN, THIS GOES TO A CONVERSATION OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THEIR GOAL OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THIS CONTINUED BALANCE OF RESIDENTIAL AND EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES SO THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY IS STILL FISCALLY STRONG AND ABLE TO, UM, SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS WELL.
SO A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, ALONG THE RAIL CORRIDOR AS WELL AS WITHIN THE WESTERN INNOVATION DISTRICT ITSELF, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME ADDITIONAL SORT OF PURPLE, UM, FLEX INDUSTRIAL USES AND OR FLEX INNOVATION IN INDUSTRIAL USES THERE.
UM, WITHIN THE OU CAMPUS AREA, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT SORT OF BROWN, UM, THOSE BROWN PARCELS THAT'S RIGHT ALONG 1 61 BETWEEN COS GRAY AND IMAN, ESSENTIALLY, UM, THAT IS A MIXED USE CENTER DESIGNATION.
SO TRYING TO ALIGN BETTER WITH THE OU FRAMEWORK MASTER PLAN, UM, THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2016 TO HELP PROVIDE THAT SORT OF CAMPUS MAIN STREET FEEL.
SO MAKING SURE THAT THAT, UM, ALIGNS WITH, WITH THAT.
UM, AS YOU MOVE FURTHER TO THE WEST, UM, AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE RAIL LINE AND 1 61, YOU'LL SEE SORT OF A LIGHTER BROWN THAT'S ALSO A MIXED USE NODE THAT REALLY COINCIDES WITH THIS WEST DUBLIN PASSENGER RAIL STATION.
UM, SO THE CITY HAS ACQUIRED A HUNDRED ACRES, UM, WITHIN THAT AREA AND, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME DETAILED PLANNING, UM, WHICH AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE SOME, UM, INITIAL PIECES OF THAT IN THE SPECIAL AREA PLANS, BUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT MIX OF USES? HOW COULD WE LEVERAGE THIS SITE TO CREATE THIS, UM, FUTURE RAIL STATION? AND REALLY THINKING THAT THROUGH, UM, AND PROVIDING LAND USES THAT SUPPORT THAT.
SO, UM, CITY COUNCIL'S SEEN THAT IN A EARLY STAGE.
WE'VE PROVIDED THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, UM, ON TUESDAY NIGHT AGAIN, AND THERE'S SOME INFORMATION IN HERE AS WELL.
HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH THAT AND MR WE CAN ALSO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALSO FOCUSED ON.
AND WHAT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, THEN AS YOU'RE MOVING FURTHER SOUTH, UM, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT TO BALANCE TRAY, WHAT'S THE RIGHT MIX OF USES? SO THE CITY HAS PURCHASED SOME PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT AREA FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE THAT? BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING THE BOUNDARY, UM, ALONG BALANCE TRAY AND PROVIDING THE RIGHT BUFFERING AND SCREENING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STILL FEELS COMFORTABLE FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT.
UM, AND THEN MOVING INTO OUR SOUTHWEST AREA, REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME INCREASED, YOU KNOW, MINIMAL INCREASED DENSITY, BUT REALLY TO HELP GET AT THIS MIX OF HOUSING TYPES, UM, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE QUALITY RESIDENTIAL THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE HOUSING HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT TOPPING AS PART OF THIS.
AND HOW ARE WE PROVIDING, UH, PROVIDING FOR THAT.
JENNY, CAN, CAN I ADD TO THE, I JUST WANTED TO REINFORCE, UM, WHERE YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT AND, AND ROUTE 1 61 AND THIS INTRODUCTION, INTRODUCTION OF THE, UH, MIXED USE CENTER AND THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE AT THE FUTURE INTERSECTION OF, UM, TUNNEL CROSSING BOULEVARD AND 1 61 THAT'S, YOU SEE A PIECE OF IT THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, 1 61 IS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW INTERCHANGE, IS GONNA BE A REALLY, I THINK, IMPORTANT, UM, ROADWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY, IF YOU WILL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND PLAIN CITY ALSO HAS GROWTH PLANS AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU START SEEING THAT AREA CHANGING DRAMATICALLY INSTEAD OF THINKING OF, OF 1 61 AS JUST ONE THING, JUST ONE KIND OF LAND USE AND THINKING OF IT AS A SERIES OF NODES THAT SUPPORTS A GROWTH AREA IS, IS A REALLY, REALLY BRILLIANT STRATEGY.
AND I THINK I'M, I JUST WANTED TO REINFORCE THAT.
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OF TAKES THAT ON, SO.I APPRECIATE, YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, REINFORCEMENT OF THAT.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE, UM, IN, IN, IN DETERMINING WHAT THESE USES SHOULD BE.
UM, LET'S SEE, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE.
I MEAN, AGAIN, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE CITY, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL GRAPHICS IN THE LARGER COMMUNITY PLAN THAT SHOW THAT, BUT REALLY PRESERVING, YOU KNOW, OUR CORE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE EXISTING.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGES THERE.
UM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, SORT OF RE SUPPORT SERVICE AREAS AND NODES.
UM, AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PLAN AS WELL, UM, IN SOME SUBSEQUENT DETAIL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THESE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THERE TO BE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT SERVICES WHERE THAT'S APPROPRIATE? IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL USE.
IS IT A PARK SPACE? IS IT SOME OTHER CIVIC USE? THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO REALLY LOOKING AT HOW TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE.
WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION RELATED TO BRIDGE STREET AND THE DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN.
UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER SOME OF THE INTENSITY OF USES WITHIN THOSE AREAS SHOULD BE MODIFIED CHANGE, AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE REALLY FELT STRONGLY ABOUT, PARTICULARLY THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, THAT THAT LEVEL OF USES AND INTENSITY REMAINED THE SAME.
UM, SO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT OCLC SITE SHOULD THAT EVER REDEVELOP, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THAT FITS THE BRIDGE STREET STANDARD.
AND THEN AS YOU GET TO THAT DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA, SO AGAIN, THE INTENT OF THESE LAND USES FROM THE MIXED USE URBAN TO THE MIXED USE CENTER IS NOT NECESSARILY A DIFFERENCE IN INTENSITY.
IT'S REALLY HOW IT'S ORGANIZED, RIGHT? THAT THE MIXED USE URBAN IS JUST THAT IT'S A VERY URBAN CONDITION, WHEREAS MIXED USE CENTER IS MORE ORGANIZED AROUND OPEN SPACE.
UM, SO YOU CAN ENVISION METRO CENTER AS IT CURRENTLY IS, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN AND GREEN SPACES.
SO HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THAT THROUGH, THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT? SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CALLOUTS THAT CAME, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT THIS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GREEN ON THAT WEST SIDE.
AND SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP IN THE DISCUSSION, KEEP IN MIND, WE, WE DON'T CHOOSE THE PLACEMENT OF PARKS UNLESS IT'S OUR LAND.
THAT PARKS AND OPEN SPACE USUALLY COMES IN CONJUNCTION WITH DEVELOPMENT.
SO BY NO MEANS IS THE LACK OF GREEN ON THIS WEST SIDE INDICATIVE OF LACK OF FUTURE PARKS.
IT'S JUST THAT WE ARE NOT IDENTIFYING THOSE RIGHT NOW ON THE MAP BECAUSE THIS IS STILL THE CRAYON PHASE.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THE LAND USE COMES WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, PARK REQUIREMENTS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS CRAYONS ON PAPER IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE NOT YET DEVELOPED.
WHEREAS THE AREAS THAT ARE DEVELOPED, YOU'RE SEEING LEGOS, YOU'RE SEEING, HEY, HERE'S EXACTLY WHERE THE PARKS ARE, HERE'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE NOT BY ANY MEANS SAYING THAT THE WEST SIDE IS GONNA BE LESS GREEN THAN, THAN THE REST OF DUBLIN.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, INVITED ALL OF US INTO THE CITY.
IT'S JUST WE CAN'T DESIGNATE THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS YET BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T COME ALONG.
SO AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNDERSTANDING, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ON THIS MAP, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE OTHER SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, THAT THE WORDS IN HERE HELP YOU TO IDENTIFY THAT SHOULD ANYTHING COME IN, IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY CRAYON, THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH TOOLS TO UNDERSTAND, OKAY, WELL THIS IS WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
HEY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT PER ONE EIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE, THE RELATIVE RATIO IS THAT YOU CAN ENVISION THAT, AND THAT, THAT MEETS THE COMMUNITY PLAN OBJECTIVES THAT YOU'RE READING IN TEXT IN THESE DOCUMENTS.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
UH, SO THE SAME GOES FOR OTHER SERVICES.
OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T CALL OUT, YOU KNOW, ANY DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SERVICES.
WE STILL, LIKE JENNY TOUCHED ON, HEY, IF WE DON'T HAVE WATER, SEWER STORM DRAIN, NOTHING'S GOING THERE BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO TAKE PLACE.
AND THAT'S FURTHER SORT OF ILLUSTRATED DOWN AT THAT SPECIAL AREA PLAN, RIGHT? SO IN THE SOUTHWEST AREA, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT THAT, YOU SEE IF THERE'S EXISTING WOODS OR NATURAL RESOURCES THAT WE WANNA BE PRESERVED, THAT'S ONE THING.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREEN CORRIDOR.
SO IT'S NOT, SO THE SPECIFIC LAND USE IS DESIGNATED TO THE WHOLE PARCEL.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING PARTICULAR ABOUT THAT PARCEL, THAT WHEN WE DRILL DOWN THEN TO THAT NEXT LEVEL THAT WE WANNA BE PRESERVED OR WE WANT TO BE ADDED OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
TO, TO REBECCA'S POINT, THAT'S WHAT THE SPECIAL AREA PLAN HELPS TO DO.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING IN THAT LENS OF WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT AREA, ABOUT APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF.
AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY GENERATED A LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.
BUT AGAIN, AS YOU'RE THINKING THAT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S THINGS ON THESE AREA PLANS IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF
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WHAT REBECCA SAID ABOUT THE LACK OF GREEN AND A LOT OF THE NEW AREAS THAT, THAT, THAT WILL COME WITH EACH PROJECT, RIGHT? OPEN SPACE WILL GET INCORPORATED AND THEN WHEN THE MAP GETS REPAINTED, THAT GREEN WILL START TO SHOW JUST LIKE IT DOES IN THE EXISTING PART OF THE CITY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.SO, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST, IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
THE, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD WAS THE BACK TO THE, UM, THE BRIDGE, UH, BRIDGE STREET AREA AND THE DENSITY OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT THAT IS OUR CITY CENTER AND WE, IF WE'RE GONNA CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT IN, IN A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DENSITY, THAT'S THE PLACE TO DO IT.
THE FIRST, I THINK ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS, UM, ACTUALLY SHOWING LESS DENSITY.
AND THE STREAM COMMITTEES SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO MAKE IT ALL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DARK RED COLOR, THE DARK RED COLOR GOT MORE CONCENTRATED.
AND, AND PART OF THAT IS THAT THE 1 61 CORRIDOR IS PART OF THE, THE C UH, CITY OF COLUMBUS'S LINK IS PROGRAM.
AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE BUS, UM, RAPID TRANSIT ON IT.
AND SO THINKING OF THAT AS A TRANSIT CORRIDOR AND THEN THINKING OF LAND USES ALONG THAT, THAT START TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS'S ZONING RIGHT NOW AND THEIR NEW REZONING IS ALL FOCUSING ON CORRIDORS AND WHERE DENSITY CAN OCCUR, WHETHER THERE'S TRANSIT TO SUPPORT IT.
SO I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER RATIONALE FOR REALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT DENSITY.
AND, AND THEN IF I COULD HAVE YOU TOUCH ON, AND YOU, AS THE PLURAL, YOU AND TINA, I, I MIGHT LEVERAGE YOU HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT, UM, SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE WENT INTO TRAIL WIDTH THAT OUR MIXED USE TRAILS, UM, IN, IN MOST AREAS ARE DEEMED TOO NARROW FOR WHAT WE WANT TO USE THEM AND THE UTILIZATION, UH, THE STREET SCAPE DIFFERENCES, UH, WITH OPPORTUNITIES FOR BIKE LANES THAT ARE SEGMENTED ON THE HIGHER, UM, SPEED, ROADWAYS, THOSE ARTERIALS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
AND THEN KIM, IF I COULD LEVERAGE YOU IN TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SIGNATURE TRAIL, THE VISION FOR IT, UM, WHEN COMBINED WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND SO JUST THINGS THAT I THINK STUCK OUT AND THAT HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO HEAR.
UM, SO DO YOU WANNA START WITH SIGNATURE TRAIL A LITTLE BIT? JUST YOUR TAKEAWAY OF WHAT THE, THE CITY'S VISION FOR SIGNATURE TRAIL AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WENT INTO IT YEAH.
AND WHY WE LANDED ON THAT AREA THAT IT IS CURRENTLY OUTLINED.
WELL, AGAIN, I THINK THE IDEA OF THIS SIGNATURE TRAIL, THANK YOU.
WAS TRYING TO THINK OF, UH, A CORRIDOR THAT YOU COULD GET ON THAT WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON PEDESTRIANS AND BIKERS AND MAYBE OTHER MICRO MOBILITY, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW,
BUT IT'S, IT'S WHERE YOU, IT'S IT'S, UM, FOCUSED ON, AND AGAIN, THE CORRIDOR HAS NOT BEEN, IT'S GENERALLY BEEN DEFINED, BUT IT, IT MIGHT BE ALONG RIPARIAN CORRIDORS AND IT MIGHT BE ALONG STREETS, IT MIGHT BE BOTH, BUT TO PROVIDE A REALLY, REALLY WIDE, OR MAYBE IT'S A SERIES OF DIFFERENT, UM, UH, PATHWAYS, IF YOU WILL.
SO MAYBE THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY, MAYBE THERE'S A BIKEWAY, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT MIXING THAT, THOSE TWO THINGS, BUT YOU HAVE ENOUGH ENVIRONMENT, ENOUGH WIDTH TO DO ALL OF THAT AND TO CREATE THIS MAJOR CONNECTION ACROSS THE CITY THAT CONNECTS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CENTER, IF YOU WILL, BRIDGE STREET, BRIDGE PARK, UM, ALL THAT AREA.
AND THEN TAKING IT OUT AND CONNECTING, UH, METRO PLACE AND CONNECTING OUT, YOU KNOW, OUT TO THE WESTERN PARK, EVEN ALL THE WAY TO THE, IT COULD BE ALL THE WAY TO THE RAIL STATION.
IT DOESN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT GOES OBVIOUSLY OUT TO THE OU CAMPUS.
SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY EXCITING, UM, ELEMENT BECAUSE I'VE, AS A BIKER, I'VE BEEN, I TRY AND MAKE MY OWN SIGNATURE TRAIL AND IT'S JUST NEVER COMPLETE, RIGHT? I'M EITHER ON A TRAIL OR ON THE ROAD OR, SO I THINK IT'S, THAT'S A REALLY EXCITING ELEMENT.
I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW THAT EVOLVES.
DID THAT GET TO WHAT YOU WERE
IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE, THE TRAIL WIDTH AND THEN THE STREET, STREET SCAPE DIFFERENCES IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND HOW THAT WOULD BE IMPACTING FUTURE APPLICATIONS AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR ASKING SOME INSIGHTFUL QUESTIONS.
SO IN TERMS OF TRAIL WIDTH, WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED, UM, AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS THAT, UM, NATIONAL AND STATE STANDARDS ARE, UM, TRENDING TOWARDS MUCH WIDER PATHS.
UM, THE STATE OF OHIO NOW HAS, UM, 11 FEET.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING AT, UM, 11 TO 12 FEET, MINIMUM OF 10 FEET.
I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT OURS STANDARD IS AN EIGHT FOOT PATH.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE MAIN ELEMENTS OF THIS PLAN
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AND FOCUSING ON THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PORTION OF IT AND CREATING THAT COMFORT AND SAFETY LEVEL FOR THOSE, USING IT, THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WIDTH IS SUFFICIENT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, VARIOUS TYPES OF MODES.SO WALKING, BIKING, SCOOTING, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, UM, AND BIDIRECTIONALITY, UM, AT THE SAME TIME, UM, PEOPLE WITH STROLLERS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO IN THIS PLAN, WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE AN 11 FOOT, UM, SHARED USE PATH STANDARD.
THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE ARE SAYING THAT IT MIGHT BE OKAY TO SQUEEZE IT DOWN TO 10 IF THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS IN THE AREA THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT.
THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR AREAS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, NEW DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE THE EIGHT FOOT PATH.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND WIDEN AS CONDITIONS AND CONSTRAINTS ALLOW.
SO WORKING WITH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS, THIS WAS A, A MATTER OF, UM, GREAT IMPORTANCE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WE, UM, WORK WITH EACH INDIVI THAT WE WEREN'T TOO PUNITIVE AND TOO INVASIVE ON, UM, EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, AND SO IN OUR, UM, OBJECTIVES, WE DO SAY THAT IN THOSE AREAS OF EXISTING, UM, PATH THAT WE WILL WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AS CONSTRAINTS AND CONDITIONS ALLOW FOR US TO WIDEN.
UH, OUR NEW STANDARD FOR A SIDEWALK WIDTH FOR ALL AREAS IS SIX FEET WIDE.
FOUR FEET IS JUST VERY NARROW.
IF ANYBODY WALKS ON A SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WALK SIDE BY SIDE ON OUR STANDARD SIDEWALK WIDTH, WHICH IS FOUR FEET.
UM, IN OUR COMMERCIAL AREAS, IT'S TYPICALLY FIVE.
UM, BUT EVEN FIVE DOESN'T QUITE GET YOU THERE, RIGHT? IT'S STILL, YOU'RE TIGHT, YOU'RE SQUEEZED.
SO WE ARE LOOKING TO WIDEN THAT OUT, UM, AS WELL, AGAIN, FOR AREAS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE HOPING THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD BE FOCUSING ON, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE STANDARDS WERE MET IN THOSE AREAS OF EX EXCUSE OR AREAS OF REDEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN THOSE AREAS OF EXISTING, UM, PATHS OR SIDEWALKS, UH, WE WOULD WIDEN THOSE ON, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AS CONDITIONS AND CONSTRAINTS ALLOW SUBJECT.
BUT YOU REMINDED ME THAT, HOW HAS IT WORKED OUT WITH THE SAW CUT SIDEWALKS? YOU WANNA PUT YOUR, I'M SORRY, THE SAW CUT SIDEWALKS, UH, TO BE USED AS DUAL AS BIKE PASS.
ALSO WITH MEREFIELD DRIVE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE ZONE THAT IN THAT THOSE, THE SIDEWALK ON THE RIGHT GOING SOUTH, UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE SAW CUT SIDEWALK, AND IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.
OH, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO YOU'RE RIDING THE BIKES ON THEM, SO YOU'RE ASKING ME HOW THEY'RE WEARING OVER TIME.
SO FOR WIDENING SIDEWALKS, THEY MIGHT WORK OUT AS A, AS A BIKE PATH ALSO.
IT THE, IT COULD CERTAINLY WORK OUT THAT WAY, YES.
AND WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? THE STREET SCAPE.
SO WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE, A LOT OF OUR STREETS LOOK VERY SIMILAR, RIGHT? YES.
TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION, NO TURN LANE IN A LOT OF THE CASES, BUT IN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT MODES OF MOBILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT MODALITY METHODS, YEAH.
LOOKING AT DIFFERENT STREET SCAPES WHERE WE HAVE SOMETIMES PARTITION BIKE LANES, SOMETIMES INTEGRATED FLOOD BIKE LANES, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UM, IN THE NEW, UM, TRANSPORTATION CHAPTER, WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS THAT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL STREET TYPOLOGIES, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
WE DID GET QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR STEERING COMMITTEE ON WHAT THOSE TYPOLOGIES SHOULD LOOK AND FEEL LIKE.
UM, AND GOING BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION PARADIGM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, OKAY, PEDESTRIANS ARE AT THE TOP, THEN WE'VE GOT BICYCLISTS, THEN WE'VE GOT TRANSIT, THEN WE HAVE PRIVATE AUTOS, THEN WE HAVE, UM, FREIGHT AND, UM, WHAT'S THE LAST ONE? RIDE SHARE THINK.
SO IT'S RIDESHARE, THEN FREIGHT.
SO THE WAY THAT, THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE WANTED OUR PARADIGM TO BE SET UP, THE REASON THAT THE PRIVATE AUTO IS STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PARADIGM IS BECAUSE WE WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT BY AND LARGE, THERE ARE MANY DUBLINS WHO STILL DRIVE A PRIVATE VEHICLE TO AND FROM WORK EVERY DAY.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO YOUR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT OR EVEN WHEREVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING OUTSIDE OF DUBLIN, SAFELY EASILY, WHETHER YOU'RE IN YOUR CAR OR, YOU KNOW, AS AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USER.
SO OUR NEW STREET TYPOLOGIES, UM, RECOGNIZE DIFFERENT AREAS AND DIFFERENT FUNCTIONALITIES OF ROADS.
SO OUR ROADS THAT CONNECT TO OUR INTERSTATE SYSTEM OR TO OUR MAJOR ARTERIALS
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ARE THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTIONS ARE STILL TO MOVE VEHICLES AND GET FOLKS TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO EFFICIENTLY.AVERY MUIRFIELD IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
EMERALD PARKWAY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
FRANCE ROAD, UM, BRIDGE STREET, EAST AND WEST BRIDGE STREET, THOSE TYPES OF ROADS THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT TO MAKE THAT ROADWAY, UM, COMFORTABLE AND SAFE FOR NOT JUST THE VEHICLE, BUT FOR ALL USERS? SO THERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING PHYSICALLY SEPARATED ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION BUFFERS, PHYSICAL BUFFERS BETWEEN LIKE A BIKE LANE AND A TRAVEL LANE.
UM, MAYBE SEPARATED BY FOUR FEET, THREE FEET, FOUR FEET CURB.
UM, AGAIN, WIDER, UM, SHARED USE PATHS AND SIDEWALKS SEPARATED BY THE, SEPARATED FROM THE, UM, BIKE LIGHT, BIKE LANE, EXCUSE ME, IF IT'S PRESENT BY A TREE LAWN.
AND THEN AGAIN, UM, THE OTHER SHARED USE PATH TYPE FACILITY, WHETHER IT'S THE SIDEWALK OR THE SHARED USE PATH.
THEN AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION, UM, THAT WE'RE BUILDING WITH THIS PLAN, WE START TO BRING THE, UM, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENTS CLOSER TO THE TRAVEL WAY.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, SPEEDS AND VOLUMES GET LOWER, AND WE'RE STARTING TO SHIFT THAT FOCUS AWAY FROM THE SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLE BACK TO THAT, UM, PEDESTRIAN OR THAT VULNERABLE ROAD USER.
THE YES, THEN THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, BUT CAN YOU ALSO TOUCH ON ROUNDABOUTS, BECAUSE THAT PLAYED A, A BIG ROLE IN THAT? OH, YES.
SO IN AREAS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, THANK YOU.
IN AREAS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, BECAUSE ROUNDABOUTS ARE SO MUCH SAFER, UM, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A GREAT TRACK RECORD HERE IN DUBLIN.
UM, WE CAN POINT TO NUMEROUS LOCATIONS.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER MAIN POINTS IS SMALLER ROADS, MORE OF THEM.
SO KIND OF REPEATING THE BRIDGE STREET EXAMPLE, BUT NOT MAYBE QUITE AS STRINGENT OF A GRID, BUT CREATING MULTIPLE REDUNDANT ROUTES SO THAT WE DON'T NEED AS LARGE OF A ROADWAY.
UM, SO SPEEDS ARE LOWER, VOLUMES ARE LOWER.
UM, YOU CAN INTEGRATE THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVE USES.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO INTERSECTION TRAFFIC CONTROL, OUR PRIMARY OR OUR FIRST, UM, ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? AND THEN IF THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT, THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO TO OTHER TYPES OF TRAFFIC CONTROL.
BUT OUR FIRST STEP IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT.
UM, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING ACTUALLY.
I THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT STEP FORWARD FOR US AND REALLY INTEGRATING IT INTO OUR ROADWAY NETWORK A LITTLE MORE HOLISTICALLY THAN WE HAVE.
THE STATE TALKED ABOUT THAT YEARS AGO.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON BUILDING WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WIDENING ROADS, BUILDING, LEAVING THE ROADS NARROW AND BUILDING MORE WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO GET RIGHT.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE REDUNDANT ROUTES, YOU ARE HAVING EXPONENTIALLY INCREASES, RIGHT? SO THEN YOU DON'T EXPERIENCE CONGESTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY PLACE THAT HAS A GRID, YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING HAPPENING ON ONE STREET.
YOU JUST GO OVER A BLOCK AND YOU CAN GET AROUND AND YOU GET AROUND.
SO IT, THE PRINCIPLE WORKS, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IT WORKS IN BRIDGE STREET.
WE HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD, AND THAT'S A MUCH MORE PLEASANT EXPERIENCE, BY THE WAY, FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED, RIGHT? YEAH.
DID YOU, I JUST, I JUST HAD ONE OTHER, THIS IS, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS AND, BUT HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND IT.
UM, SO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A LAND USE PLAN AND WE'VE HAD A THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THEY, THEY, THEY NEVER COME TOGETHER.
AND SO I'M, NOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS LAND USE PLAN AND THINKING OF SOME OF THE ROADWAY NEW ROADWAYS THAT ARE PLANNED IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT LITERALLY KIND OF INFORMED THE LAND USE ALONG THEM.
AND I WONDERED, IS THERE A WAY TO MARRY SOME OF THOSE THOROUGHFARE? IT MAY NOT BE ALL OF THEM, BUT LIKE, UM, THE SHIRE RINGS ROAD, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PARALLEL ROAD TO 33, WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL THAT, THAT DOESN'T SHOW COMPLETED HERE, AND IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON HOW YOU THINK ABOUT THE LAND USE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
THE OTHER WOULD BE TITLE CROSSING BOULEVARD AS IT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY DEFINING, I THINK, SOME OF THESE LAND USE, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE ONLY TWO ROADS I'M, BUT IT JUST WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS DESIGNED AS WE START TO DEVELOP THOSE SPECIAL AREA PLANS.
SO THEY COME OUT, WE BRING, WE MARRY THOSE TWO, UM, IN THAT WAY.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY NECESSARILY SHOWN,
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LIKE THOSE KEY THOROUGHFARES ARE NOT NECESSARILY SHOWN ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.UM, AND SO IT'S PROBABLY, YEAH.
AND AGAIN, THESE, THE, THE SPECIAL AIRPLANES ARE FOCUSED IN, BUT TO UNDERSTAND LIKE A NEW ROAD THAT'S CONNECTING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CITY, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A BIGGER MOVE HERE THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE RESPOND TO ANYWAY.
I JUST THOUGHT SOME OF THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
AND I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE IT'S TRADITIONALLY NOT DONE THAT WAY.
IT'S, THEY'RE TRADITIONALLY LEFT SEPARATE.
I DON'T, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
UM, BUT I MEAN, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THOSE NEW ROADWAYS WERE DEVELOPED 100% WITH THE SPECIAL AREA.
LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY FOR US TO DO IT.
IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY LIKE, WHY IS THERE THIS WEIRD SWOOP OF THIS? RIGHT? WELL, IT'S LIKE, WELL, BECAUSE WE THINK THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A ROAD, THERE'S A ROADS GONNA BE THERE.
SO IT, IT COULD BE AS, AS EASY TO, TO MEET THE, THE HELPFULNESS MEASURE.
IT COULD BE AS EASY AS HAVING A LAYER ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
THAT IS THE THOROUGH FAIR PLAN THAT, UH, AND IF SHOULD WE ZOOM DOWN THE SPECIAL AREA PLAN WITH AN OVERLAY THAT IS THAT THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND IF YOU TRY TO OVERLAY BOTH, I CAN'T SEE THE GREEN, IT'S BEHIND THE MICROPHONE.
UM, IF YOU OVERLAY BOTH OF THEM, IT JUST MIGHT GET TOO WAY TOO, LIKE MESSY AND COMPLEX.
I'M, I'M JUST SEEING SOME OF THE KEY ROUTES THAT ARE GONNA INFORM THE FUTURE OF LAND USE.
UM, SO LOOKING BACK, I, IF WE WANNA GO BACK TO LAND USE.
UM, SO LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION, I THINK JENNY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB INTRODUCING KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS LOTS OF COLORS, LOTS OF, UH, DETAIL THAT SOME OF US HAVE MORE BACKGROUND WITH THAN OTHERS.
SO LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY CALLOUTS, ANY COMMENTS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND KIND OF WHAT THE VISION IS THERE BEFORE WE ZOOM DOWN INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED AREAS? SO I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK EVERYONE HAS DONE AND, UM, AND JUST LIKE ALL THE CITIZENS, WE'VE ALL TAKEN A LITTLE DIPPING SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
UM, SO WHEN WE'RE TAKING ALL THIS IN THIS EVENING, AND WE'RE GONNA BE PROGRESSING THROUGH THIS AND INDIVIDUALLY, THAT'S GREAT.
UM, BUT LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS WHEN THERE'S WORDS THAT SAY BE PROTECTIVE OF THE RAIL WAYS, HOW AS A COMMISSION IS, DOES THAT COME BEFORE US? BEFORE THAT? OR WHEN THOSE WORDS ARE OUT THERE, WHEN I'M SEEING IT IN TEXTS, WE WANNA BE PROTECTIVE OF, UM, THE ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT A HUNDRED ACRES AND WHAT HAPPENS THERE OR WHAT HAPPENS AROUND IT.
UM, I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING, HOW DO I LOOK AT THAT? THANK YOU.
SO, AND AGAIN, MAYBE THAT WE CAN DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SPECIAL AREA PLANS, BUT THE GOAL OF THAT WOULD BE WHEN A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL COMES FORWARD, RIGHT? THERE'S BOUNDARIES TO THAT.
SO WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THAT SITE? BUT THEN THERE ARE ALSO LIKE CONTEXTUALLY SOME LARGER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT.
SO WOULD WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL X THAT COMES BEFORE YOU, IS IT MEETING THAT RECOMMENDATION? RIGHT? AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S OPEN-ENDED, BUT IN SOME INSTANCES OTHERS, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC.
SO I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE LIKE THAT SPECIFIC DETAIL BROUGHT TO YOU.
IT'S REALLY HOW DOES THAT FIT IN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
DOES THAT ANSWER THAT? THAT HELPS.
UM, AND ALSO I'M JUST THINKING OF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A HOUSING PROJECT THAT'S GOING NEAR THERE AND, UM, WHAT'S TOO CLOSE, WHAT IST CLOSE AND, AND HOW THAT ALL REFRAINS WITH THAT.
SO MAYBE LET'S PUT THAT, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GET TO THE AREA PLANS.
'CAUSE IT DOES SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THAT, PARTICULARLY ALONG LIKE TOTAL CROSSING BOULEVARD OR THE RAIL RAILROAD, WHAT'S THAT APPROPRIATE BUFFERING, RIGHT? SO THAT'S INCLUDED.
BUT TO MS. HARDER, TO YOUR POINT, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANNA UNDERSTAND.
IF THERE ARE STILL QUESTIONS GIVEN, GIVEN THE DOCUMENTATION, GIVEN THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE THAT STATEMENT, IT IS VERY, UH, LOOSE AS A STATEMENT ALONE.
BUT AS WE DIG DOWN, DOES THAT STATEMENT MARRY AND MATCH WITH THE DETAILS IN THE AREA PLAN? OR DOES THE AREA PLAN SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A 12 FOOT SETBACK.
AND YOU SAY, WELL WAIT A SECOND, I DON'T SEE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THIS STATEMENT AND THIS, UM, APPLICATION.
THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO IDENTIFY, TO HIGHLIGHT, TO CALL OUT.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, THEN DEVELOPERS ARE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS, THEN RESIDENTS ARE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS.
EVERYBODY ELSE IS GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS.
WOULDN'T THE WOULDN'T STAFF MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE DEVELOPER WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING THEIR
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PLAN SAYING, WELL, YOU, THIS IS THE SETBACK, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.THERE'S GONNA BE A TRAIN COMING THROUGH HERE AND SURE.
I MEAN, THE COMM YES, OF COURSE.
I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY PLAN AGAIN, IS THERE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AS YOU, I'M SURE KNOW WHEN THINGS COME BEFORE YOU.
PEOPLE WANT TO ASK FOR THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY MEET THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND THEY MIGHT HAVE A COMPELLING REASON FOR WHY THEY DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S THERE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND SOME OF THOSE ARE LEFT A LITTLE MORE OPEN-ENDED BECAUSE AGAIN, IT PROBABLY DEPENDS, IT MAY DEPEND ON THE PROJECT.
I, I WOULD THINK THE DEVELOPER WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH CHOICE IF IT, IF THE PLAN IS LAID OUT THE TRANS WELL THE PLAN IS A HIGHER LEVEL RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? RIGHT.
IF IF THE CODE IS ONE'S LAID OUT, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE THERE.
SO, SO IF, WHY SHOULD WE WRESTLE WITH THE DEVELOPER? IT'S A FACT.
WHEN HE SUBMITS THE PLAN TO YOU, THE STAFF, HE'S, THAT'S MADE CLEAR AND THAT IT'S NOT A, NOT A YES NO THING.
SO MR. BOGS, IF YOU COULD CHIME IN, STAFF IS GOING TO GUIDE THE DEVELOPER AS THE CODE READS AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
RIGHT? BUT FROM THEIR RIGHTS, CAN YOU TALK THROUGH WHAT THEY HAVE TO, WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BRING FORWARD VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BRING FORWARD? RIGHT? AND THAT, AND THAT, THAT GETS TO THE DISTINCTION.
YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CODE TALKS ABOUT, ON THE ONE HAND, SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO PUT FORWARD TO HAVE A COMPLETE APPLICATION? AND THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY EQUATE TO HAVING A COMPLETE AND, UH, LAND USE PLAN COMPLIANT APPLICATION.
AND SO IF THEY HAVE A COMPLETE APPLICATION AND THROUGHOUT EVERY INTERACTION STAFF HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS, UM, THAT WE HAVE THIS A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER AREA, YOUR PLAN DOESN'T CALL FOR THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL ON THAT BASIS.
THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA SHOW UP IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
BUT STAFF IS NOT ABLE TO STOP A COMPLETE SUBMISSION FROM MOVING FORWARD AND HAVING THE DEVELOPER MAKE THAT CASE TO YOU, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THE POWER TO SAY TO, TO, UH, DEPART IF YOU THINK THAT THAT IS COMPELLING OR AT LEAST TO RECOMMEND DEPARTURE IF YOU THINK THAT'S COMPELLING ONTO COUNCIL.
I, I GUESS I, MAYBE I'M NAIVE, BUT I THOUGHT WHEN, IF I'M A DEVELOPER AND I'M GOING TO PUT A DEVELOPMENT ON 500 ACRES, UM, I COME TO STAFF RIGHT AWAY AND SAY, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS PARCEL? IS THERE A RAILROAD GOING THROUGH? IS THERE A THIS OR THAT? AND THOSE ARE NOT VARIABLES.
OKAY? SO WHEN, THEN WHEN HE PUTS HIS PLAN TOGETHER, IT HAS TO COMPLY TO THOSE.
THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER THINGS HE CAN DO.
BUT, BUT, UH, UH, WE'VE DONE THAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
IF THERE'S, THERE'S, THE CITY HAS A ROAD PLAN TO GO THROUGH THAT TRACK, HE'S NOT GONNA PUT HOUSES IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT WHERE THE ROAD'S GONNA BE, YOU SEE? SO I JUST THINK THAT IF THE DEVELOPER IS ADVISED THERE'S A RAILROAD COMING THROUGH HERE, OR WE'RE DOING PUBLIC TRANS OR WHATEVER, THAT'S IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THERE'S NO YES NO ANSWER TO THAT.
THAT'S, I MEAN, IT, THAT DEVELOPER PROBABLY GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN FRONT OF THIS, THAT DEVELOPER'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN FRONT OF THIS BODY GETTING AN APPROVAL OR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
BUT THAT DOESN'T, JENNY AND HER STAFF DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO SAY, WE CAN'T EVEN, WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO PUT THIS FORWARD IF THEY HAVE A COMPLETE NO, THEY DIDN'T PLAN FOR IT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE STAFF IN THE PAST HAS SAID TO THE DEVELOPER, WELL, THERE'S GONNA BE A ROAD COMING THROUGH HERE, SO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, AS THE COMMUNITY, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IN IN THE SOUTHWEST AREA, IT TALKS ABOUT, SO ON PAGE 22 AND 23 OF THIS REALLY MEATY DOCUMENT, THERE IS ONE THAT SAYS PROTECT AND INTEGRATE WATERCOURSE AND TREE STAND INTO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT IS PRETTY VAGUE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE IS TREE STANDS, BUT HOW THEY DO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? THAT I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO PRESERVE EVERY SINGLE TREE.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS REALISTIC, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE PART THAT'S SORT OF THIS NE NOT NECESSARILY NEGOTIATION, BUT PART OF THE REVIEW AND THE DISCRETION OF STAFF.
AND ULTIMATELY THOUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, DEPENDING ON WHAT PROCESS THEY'RE IN.
SO I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS IS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE.
WE SHARE THAT WITH APPLICANTS OBVIOUSLY AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT SOME OF THESE ARE MEANT TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, AS WE WORK THROUGH A PROJECT, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION TO
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ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
AND, AND, AND TO THAT END, AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS.
ANY DEVELOPER AT ANY TIME COULD COME FORWARD AND SAY, I WANT TO PUT THIS FORWARD.
IT DOESN'T MEET WHAT YOUR CURRENT CODE IS, BUT I STILL WANT YOU TO CONSIDER IT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS THE DOCUMENTATION THAT HELPS US TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO THE THOROUGH FAIR PLAN, THEY LEFT OFF A ROAD.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN CALLS FOR A ROAD, YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE IT.
THAT IS A CONDITION OF, OF APPROVAL OR TREE STANDS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A HUNDRED ACRES AND 20 ACRES OF THAT IS TREE STANDS YOUR PROPOSING THAT TWO ACRES BE INCLUDED.
WE WANT 18 ACRES, BUT DO WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION? DO WE HAVE THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US TO PAINT THE PICTURE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD? I I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.
I, I GUESS I WAS, WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES IN, HE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO VARIABLE ON THAT.
IF THERE'S A, THERE'S A RAILROAD TRACK COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, HE'S GOT RESTRICTIONS THAT HE CAN'T BUILD WITH A RAILROAD.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT, THAT, THAT THAT STAFF HAS THE RIGHT TO INFORM HIM OF ALL THAT STUFF.
AND I DON'T THINK HE'D BE AN IDIOT TO COME IN AND SAY, UH, TO US, WE WANT YOU TO MOVE THE RAILROAD TRACK.
SO, UM, UH, IF I THINK IT'S, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE HE KNOWS THAT THAT'S NOT A, A VARIABLE THING.
AND, AND, AND WE LOOK AT THIS MA THIS HEARING, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME RESTRICTIONS AS THERE HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS.
SO, YEAH, I DON'T THINK, I THINK IT, IT SHOULD BE ALL LAID OUT BEFORE IT COMES TO THIS BOARD AS FAR AS HE KNOWS WHAT HE CAN DO AND WHAT HE CAN'T DO.
I MEAN, EVERY, PRETTY MUCH EVERY APPLICATION THAT HAS COME BEFORE YOU IS, WE'VE MET WITH THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.
AND THAT IS A HUGE PART OF IT.
WHAT'S THE COMMUNITY PLAN RECOMMEND? WHAT'S THE CURRENT ZONING? WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS? YEAH.
AGAIN, IF IT'S A PUD, THEN THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE NEGOTIATED PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, EVEN WITH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, I MEAN, THERE ARE ROADWAYS SHOWN ON THERE, BUT THEIR EXACT ALIGNMENT IS NOT ALWAYS KNOWN.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING, RIGHT? LIKE YES, THERE IS A ROADWAY.
WHERE EXACTLY IS IT GONNA GO? THAT'S PART OF OUR REVIEW PROCESS AND COLLABORATION WITH TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY IS WHERE'S THAT GONNA GO? YOU KNOW, AND HOW DO, HOW DOES IT ALL FIT TOGETHER? AND THEY MAY PROPOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE, RIGHT? THAT WE HAVE AN ALIGNMENT AND THEY SHOW SOMETHING.
IT'S LIKE, OH, WELL, THAT WE COULD CONSIDER THAT AND THAT WORKS MAYBE BETTER.
AND WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT, OR NO, IT MUST BE HERE BECAUSE WE'VE STUDIED IT.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY, BECAUSE IT HAS DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS, RIGHT? LIKE TU CROSSING, RIGHT? LIKE THAT HAS IMPLICATIONS IF WE CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT SOMEWHERE TO HOW IT FITS.
SO I MEAN, WE'RE, WE ARE DEFINITELY DOING THAT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, TO, TO, BUT TO KATHY'S POINT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE RAILROAD ISSUE, RIGHT? SO IN THAT SAME SECTION IT SAYS, UM, DWELLING SHOULD BE AT LEAST 200 FEET BACK FROM THE RAIL LINE.
AND I CAN'T, I THOUGHT SOMEHOW, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A WHOLE IN THE, THE BIGGER NARRATIVE THERE THAT'S ADDRESSED ALSO.
IS THAT RIGHT THERE? YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY ADDITIONAL, THIS IS SORT OF A SNAPSHOT PIECE OF THIS, BUT THEREM SAYING IF THERE'S SPECIFICS, LIKE WE SHOULD PULL IT OUT AND JUST MAKE IT MORE OF A CLEAR, UH, LIKE JUST THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE IT REALLY PROBABLY IS AFFECTED, RIGHT? SO IT'S SPECIFIC HERE, BUT IT SHOULD BE MORE OF A GENERAL GUIDE GUIDELINE.
AND, AND WHILE I'VE CALLED OUT THIS EVENING, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SEES THIS HAS TOOLS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WE, WE ARE BY NO STRETCH, THE ONLY BODY THAT'S GOING TO BE REFERENCING THIS AS STAFF BRINGS FORWARD THEIR PLANNING REPORTS, THAT THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB IN PREPARING.
THEY'RE GONNA BE LEVERAGING THE SAME INFORMATION.
SO WHEN THEY COME FORWARD, EVEN BEFORE THEY COME FORWARD TO US, WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE USING THE SAME TOOLS.
THEY'RE USING THE SAME DOCUMENTS.
AND THEN THE PLANNING REPORT IS GOING TO SAY, UM, THE APPLICANT IS BRINGING FORTH AN ALIGNMENT THAT IS DIFFERENT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER IT.
AND EITHER PLANNING STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE ALIGNMENT OF THE THOROUGHFARE AND FINDS IT, YOU KNOW, MORE ACCEPTABLE THAN THE ORIGINAL, OR, HEY, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR BECAUSE OF THOSE DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS.
BUT, BUT REGARDLESS, IT'LL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PLANNING REPORT AS ONE MORE TOOL, RIGHT.
FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO MAKE A A DECISION.
I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S SOME WITH THIS PLAN THAT'S A LITTLE LESS FLEXIBLE, IF YOU'RE PUTTING A RAILROAD TRACK THROUGH A PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT, IT, IT, IT'S GONNA BE THERE.
OR WE'RE GONNA DO A, A ROAD OR WHATEVER IT, IT'S GONNA BE THERE.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT CAN BE SETTLED
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WITH YOU BEFORE IT COMES TO US.YEAH, THERE IS FLEXIBILITY TOO, I'M SURE.
THE CURVE OF A ROAD OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW? YEAH, I WAS JUST COMMENTING ON THAT WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THOSE AREAS, THEY MAY BE DEVELOPING THOSE AREAS AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AND, AND, UM, IF THEY WANT US TO KEEP THAT PROTECTED 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GONNA GO THERE, HOW DO WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION? SO THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY, IT'S JUST THE, THE PLACE, THE ITSELF, THE LAND ITSELF.
I, I WAS KIND OF THINKING ABOUT.
UM, SO IF WE COULD GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL AREA PLANS, JUST ONE BY ONE, IF YOU WANNA DO AN INTRODUCTION, UH, THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN EACH OF THEM, UH, ANY NOTED ITEMS, AND WE'LL TAKE 'EM JUST ONE BY ONE, STARTING WITH THE WI REBECCA, BEFORE WE GO THERE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THE LAND USE CATEGORIES AND UNDER THE CATEGORY OF DENSITY, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO MEASURE DENSITY, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT IS TRADITIONALLY THE WAY YOU DO IT, BUT I THINK FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 2D PER ACRE OR 12,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE OR A 0.5 FAR MEANS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A, IN THE TOOLKIT CHEEK, SOMETHING THAT GIVES YOU A VISUAL OF WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THIS, BUT I HAVE JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
SO I MEAN, THIS, THIS, AS WE SAID IS JUST THE CROWNS POINT OF THE, THE GAME.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE SPECIFICITY ADDED.
LIKE WHEN WE SAY BUILDING MOUNTED SOLAR, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST A COMMENT THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT MORE DETAIL ON WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS, AND THAT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED A LOT FURTHER.
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, EVALUATING THIS IS GREAT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT START, BUT TO BELABOR THE DETAILS OF IT AT THIS POINT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WELL WAY PUTTING THE CAR BEFORE THE HORSE, RIGHT? SO I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE DETAIL THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM A CODE STANDPOINT THAT EXPLAINS WHAT EXACTLY BUILDING MINES MOUNTED SOLAR MEANS.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? THAT IS FAIR.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ZONING CODE THAT GETS UPDATED AFTER THIS IS APPROVED, CORRECT? RIGHT.
I MEAN THAT, IT PROBABLY WILL BE THAT CORRECT.
NO, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ON HERE, AGAIN, I MEAN AT THIS POINT WE'RE USING EITHER WHAT THE CODE SAYS OR THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF IT, RIGHT? THAT YOU, 'CAUSE WE'VE PUT SOME THOUGHT BEHIND THAT TOO, LIKE BUILDING MOUNTED SOLAR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE IN EVERY OR, UM, GEOTHERMAL OR, YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ELSE IS ON HERE.
LIKE ALTERNATIVE BUILDING MATERIALS, PERMEABLE PAVER PAVEMENT.
LIKE THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE IN EVERY SITUATION.
SO WE'VE DEFINITELY TRIED TO PICK WHERE WE THINK, NOT THAT SOMEBODY COULDN'T ALSO PROPOSE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE SUSTAINABLE DESIGN GETS INCORPORATED IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.
SO SAME WITH THESE OTHER PIECES, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THESE AS YOU GO FORWARD, AND AGAIN, WHEN WE MEET, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT LIKE, THESE OPEN SPACE, WELL THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE OR, YOU KNOW, THIS NEEDS TO BE, SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE SOMETHING ELSE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO NECESSARILY, WE'RE TRYING TO INCLUDE AS MANY THINGS AS THEY'RE APPLICABLE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE CATEGORIES MIGHT BE.
SO, UM, IN YOUR BIG SPECIAL AREA PLAN PIECE OF THIS, UM, AGAIN, IT GIVES A LITTLE INTRO.
WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO DO ABOUT LIKE HOW YOU USE IT AND WHAT'S INCLUDED.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE LAYOUT IS.
UM, AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THEM HAVE SOME, WE HAVE VARYING LEVELS OF, YOU KNOW, DEGREES OF DESIGN, RIGHT? SOME ARE VERY BUBBLY, SOME ARE VERY SPECIFIC DOWN TO LIKE SHOWING POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR BUILDING.
SO WE NEED TO HELP CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, GIVES A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THAT.
SO THE VERY FIRST ONE IS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UM, AND IN EACH OF THESE SPECIAL AREA PLANS, YOU HAVE SORT OF YOUR PREFACE HERE OF LIKE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF BACKGROUND, THEN WHAT'S OUR INTENT? SO WHAT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SORT OF THE SO WHAT OF THIS, WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.
AND THEN IT JUMPS INTO SORT OF THE LARGER PLANNING CONTEXT OF WHAT ARE THESE KEY FACTORS THAT REALLY SHOULD BE, THAT WERE CONSIDERED OR THAT HAVE IMPACTED HOW, WHY THIS AREA PLAN IS IMPORTANT.
UM, AND REALLY TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
AND THEN IT GOES INTO, UM, LARGER AREA PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR SPECIAL AREA PLAN.
AND THEN KEY SITES AND OPPORTUNITIES.
SO AREAS WHERE THERE'S EITHER A PARTICULAR SITE OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, HOLISTICALLY OR AGAIN, DOWN TO LIKE, I HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, DERBY LOT FOR EXAMPLE.
LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE COULD MAYBE DO HERE AND THINGS TO CONSIDER, UM, SHOULD DEVELOPMENT COME FORWARD FOR THOSE SITES.
AND THEN IT GOES INTO THESE DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS ON ONTO THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN.
SO THAT'S THE FORMAT FOR EACH OF THEM.
SOME OF 'EM HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT NUANCES AND WE'VE WE'RE TALKING TODAY ABOUT HOW TO MAYBE MAKE THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPATIBLE
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'CAUSE SOME ARE DIFFERENT OR THEY HAVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION.SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT AS CLEAR AND CONCISE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY, A LOT OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED UNDER THE PLANNING CONTEXT PART, RELATE TO THE WORK OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TASK FORCE.
THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
SO THAT GROUP SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TALKING THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THESE PARTICULAR THINGS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND THOUGHT ABOUT.
SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE REALLY HONESTLY A LARGE COMPONENT OF WHAT'S IN HERE.
SO OBVIOUSLY PRESERVATION, SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, HOW SOUTH, YOU KNOW, IN ENSURING VITALITY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH HIGH STREET, STREET SCAPE CONVERSATIONS, CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE DIS LIKE WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND THEN OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT.
UM, WE HAD, SO SOMETHING ADDITIONAL IN HERE THAT WASN'T IN THE, IN THAT DISCUSSION WAS REALLY THIS MICRO MOBILITY AND MOBILITY CORRIDOR.
SO WE'VE DEFINITELY TRIED TO INFUSE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THAT TIME.
BUT, UM, SO THAT'S INCLUDED PARKING, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
AND THEN LIKE, AS AN EXAMPLE, SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT THE INDIAN RUN.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HEAVILY DISCUSSED, UM, AND KNOW WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW DISTRICT BUT, OR BOARD.
BUT AS PART OF THIS, UM, TASK FORCE PLANNING.
SO WE'VE CALLED OUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE, UM, INCLUDED IN THERE AS WELL AS GATEWAYS WAY FINDING ART AND CULTURE, AND THEN HOW TO HELP SUPPORT THE DISTRICT.
SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF INITIATIVES TO, YOU KNOW, HELP PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT.
SO THOSE ARE AGAIN, SORT OF THE HIGH LEVEL AREA RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE KEY SITES, THAT NORTH RIVERVIEW AREA, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE? RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK IS A KEY, UM, A KEY AREA.
UM, THE POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SCHOOL SITE, UM, AS WELL AS, AND I MENTIONED THE DARBY LOT, UM, THAT PROPERTY AT THE VERY SOUTHERN END OF THE DISTRICT, UM, WHICH USED TO BE A QUARRY.
WE CALL IT THE MCDOWELL PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN 55 SOUTH HIGH STREET.
SO THAT IS ON SOUTH HIGH STREET, SORT OF THAT L-SHAPED BUILDING THAT SEEMS KIND OF OUT OF PLACE THERE.
SO IF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE DEVELOPED, HERE'S THE CONSIDERATIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO BE MINDFUL OF AS, AS SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE.
THAT WAS THE TEST OF WHETHER YOU INCORPORATED THAT DOCUMENT OR NOT, BECAUSE THE L-SHAPED BUILDING WAS THE
SO AGAIN, SOME OF THESE, AS YOU READ THROUGH IT, LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REFINEMENT, PROBABLY SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATIONS OR INFORMATION.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE, WE AS STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED, OH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY MENTION THIS SITE, OR INSTEAD OF THIS RIVERVIEW VILLAGE BEING ONLY RELATED TO THE KATCH HEADQUARTERS, THIS PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE BROADENED TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING ON NORTH RIVERVIEW AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND THAT.
SO THINGS LIKE THAT ARE, ARE ITEMS, UM, DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK ON.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE HAVE TRIED TO LOOK AT THE LARGER AREA RECOMMENDATION AND, AND APPLY THAT PARTICULARLY TO, UM, TO THE ILLUSTRATIVE GRAPHIC.
UM, BUT THEN AGAIN, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS AND THERE ARE THINGS MISSING.
I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'VE HAD SOME DETAILED DISCUSSIONS TODAY ABOUT, OH, WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THIS, OR WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT BRIDGE STREET CORRIDOR, RIGHT? AS THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENT OF PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH MONTEREY.
SO THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, OH, WE SHOULD INCLUDE THAT OR MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ADDRESSING THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
SO FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, AGAIN, WE'RE, SINCE THIS HAS BEEN, I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS ONE FEELS THE MOST COMPLETE BECAUSE WE'VE HASHED THIS AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE TO ALMOST 20 YEARS, UM, IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND AGAIN, MOST RECENTLY, LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL, UM, AND A RB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS RIGHT.
SO IT'S A REALLY SMALL AREA, BUT IT'S REALLY ROBUST IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT WE WANNA SEE THERE.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IN PARTICULAR, OR CONCERNS OR THINGS THAT, AGAIN, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF HISTORIC DISTRICT PROJECTS, SO I'M GONNA BE AT A RB NEXT WEEK TO SHARE THIS PARTICULAR PLAN WITH THEM TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK SINCE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, IMPACTS THEM AS PART OF THEIR REGULAR REVIEW OF APPLICATIONS.
SO THEN, UH, JUST BEFORE WE HEAD INTO SOUTHWEST AREA PLAN, UH, SO JENNY WILL WALK THROUGH THE SAME WAY WE JUST DID WITH HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF APPLICATIONS IN THE SOUTHWEST AREA PLAN IN THE VERY RECENT PAST.
SO AS YOU GO HOME TONIGHT, BEFORE YOU PREPARE FOR YOUR ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSIONS WITH PLANNING, UH, WITH PLANNING STAFF, UM, LOOK AT THE TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS PLAN, IN THE AREA PLAN ITSELF IN THE DOCUMENTATION AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE AND SEE IF YOU STILL FEEL LIKE THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITIES
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THAT MAY HELP SHOULD ONE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS COME BACK IN OR A NEW APPLICATION IN THAT AREA.IF YOU STILL FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MISSING ANYTHING.
SO JENNY, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.
YEAH, NO, AND THAT BRINGS UP A, UH, SOMETHING ELSE TOO.
SO ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT PLAN, ANY, ALL OF THEM PROBABLY NEED A KEY AND SOME OF THE COLORS DON'T MATCH.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AREA PLAN IN PARTICULAR, THERE ARE SOME SITES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT PROPER.
SO THAT MONTEREY SITE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE CEMETERY AND CORBIN'S MILL, LIKE IT'S RELEVANT TO THE AREA PLAN.
SO WE'RE SHOWING THAT, BUT IT'S KIND OF SHOWN AS A HATCHED OUT AREA BECAUSE THAT AND THE AREA WHERE, UM, THE BLOCK Z BUILDING, UM, ALONG NORTH HIGH STREET AND THE LIBRARY, THOSE ARE NOT ALSO WITHIN THE TRUE HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARIES, BUT THEY RELATE TO THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON THERE.
SO THOSE ARE BOTH IN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT.
SO, BUT WE WANNA SHOW THAT FOR CONTEXTUAL PURPOSES.
AND AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE AREA PLANS, KEEPING IN MIND THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE OVERLAYS, WE DO HAVE AREAS.
AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PLANS FOR THE BRIDGE PARK, BRIDGE STREET AND HISTORIC D HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT THEY MESH THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT NUMBER 17, THAT NORTH HIGH STREET AREA, IF THAT WERE TO FALL UNDER BRIDGE STREET AND HISTORIC DISTRICT IS ALL SURROUNDING IT, WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IT'S, IT'S A PIECE OF A DIFFERENT PUZZLE THAT YOU STUCK ON THE BOARD.
AND SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT IT WITH THAT LENS, UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE AREAS ALL MEET, SO THEY COULD BE PERFECT IN AND OF THEMSELVES, BUT IF WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THE JUNCTIONS, THEN WE MAY BE DOING THE CITY A DISSERVICE.
SO THEN MOVING TO THE SOUTHWEST AREA, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS WHERE THERE'S THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL SORT OF SINGLE FAMILY TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, NOT THAT THERE'S NOT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIGHER DENSITY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE APPROPRIATE, BUT THIS IS WHERE THERE'S THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY MEET THAT.
BUT THAT COMES WITH THE NEED FOR TUTTLE CROSSING BOULEVARD AND THE EXTENSION OF UTILITIES.
SO, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT AND HOW ALL THOSE PIECES FIT TOGETHER, UM, IS A BIG COMPONENT OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
SO UNDER THE PLANNING CONTEXT, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DUBLIN HOUSING STRATEGY AND STUDY AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
SO THAT REALLY HELPS INFORM, UM, THAT CONVERSATION, THIS PLANNING CONTEXT ALSO NEEDS TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, IN OUR NEXT ITERATION OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES.
'CAUSE THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT TO SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA PLAY INTO HOW THESE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS FIT TOGETHER.
UM, AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT JENNY YES, PLEASE.
THAT YOU SAID I WAS GONNA ASK YOU THAT QUESTION.
SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN STANDARDS, HOW DO, IS THAT AN OVERLAY THEN TO THIS ALSO? UM, IT'S MORE OF JUST A SUPPLEMENTAL POLICY DOCUMENT THAT WE USE FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT TO ME, I THINK IT'S WORTHY TO HIGHLIGHT HERE SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, THEN IT HELPS YOU LIKE KNOW YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND WHY WE DID THAT, THAT THAT CONTEXT OF RESIDENTIAL QUALITY AND HOW, HOW ALL THOSE DETAILS ARE HANDLED, I THINK FIT PRETTY NICELY IN HELPING.
BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WILL IT REFERENCE THOSE? YES, IT WOULD DO, YES, IT WOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
I THINK IT DOES IT IN THE, ONE OF THE BEGINNING CHAPTERS ABOUT OUR PLANS AND POLICIES, I THINK.
BUT WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT HERE.
AND THEN THAT COULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN OUR HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SECTION OF THE PLAN TOO.
AND ALSO THE, THE CONSERVATION STAFF REPORT, ALSO THE CONSERVATION, UM, SIGN OVERLAY.
AND THAT'S, BOTH OF THOSE ARE IN THE CODE.
SO THAT'S EVEN, I JUST, I THINK THE REFERENCING, BECAUSE AGAIN, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT APPLICATIONS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE PLAYING INTO IT, RIGHT? YEP.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S IN OUR STAFF REPORT.
WE WOULD SEE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AND STAFF WOULD SAY, HEY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IN ALIGNMENT WITH COMMUNITY PLAN, NEIGHBORHOOD GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE LISTED.
BUT BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THAT PART, STAFF IS HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT DOCUMENTS THEY NEED TO EVEN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, TO WARREN'S EARLIER COMMENT, HEY, I HAVE THIS A HUNDRED ACRES, 500 ACRES, WHAT AM I ALLOWED TO DO WITH IT? MM-HMM,
UM, SO ALONG, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THAT, OR WITHIN THAT SOUTHWEST AREA, THERE'S SORT OF DIFFERENT SEGMENTS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CHARACTER.
LIKE THEY ALL RELATE, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF NUANCES TO THAT.
SO YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THAT ENROLLED AVERY PIECE COMPARED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ALONG COS GRAY AND AMLIN VERSUS THEN WHEN YOU'RE TRANSITIONING OUT FURTHER TOWARDS MADISON COUNTY.
SO WE REALLY TRY TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CHARACTER SHOULD BE, UM, WITHIN, WITHIN THOSE PLANNING CONTEXTS.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE AREA PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT TOTTLE CROSSING BOULEVARD, UM, AND RINGS ROAD.
'CAUSE THE ROADWAY CHARACTER IN THESE AREAS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, SO THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S
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THAT SORT OF RURAL CHARACTER IS BEING MAINTAINED, UM, WHERE APPROPRIATE.A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RAILROAD.
UM, AND I THINK YOUR QUESTION, UM, KATHY, ABOUT LIKE, IT'S NOT PRESERVATION OF THE RAIL CORRIDOR.
IT'S, OR AT LEAST NOT MAYBE IN THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD THINK OF TRADITIONALLY.
THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE CORRIDORS ARE PRESERVED FOR EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES.
SO IF THAT'S NOT CLEAR, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CLEAR, THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO PRIORITIZE RESIDENTIAL ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS WHERE POSSIBLE.
UM, I MEAN, AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE WE ARE TRULY ADJACENT TO ALL RESIDENTIAL.
SO RESIDENTIAL'S GONNA WORK, BUT THEN THAT'S WHERE THE BUFFERING LANDSCAPING, ALL THOSE BI THINGS COME INTO PLAY.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT THAT AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH RESIDENTIAL COMES, UM, SCHOOLS AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S THAT SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL.
WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE STEERING COMMITTEE ABOUT, UM, HOW TO, HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, MULTIMODAL PLAN.
SO THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN HERE.
UM, AS WELL AS THEN SORT OF THESE GATEWAY OPPORTUNITIES AT EITHER END, UM, OF THE SOUTHWEST AREA.
UM, A LOT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, TREE STANDS, THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NATURAL FEATURES ARE PRESERVED.
UM, GREENWAYS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE STEERING COMMITTEE ABOUT GREENWAYS, UM, THE HERITAGE TRAIL THAT'S PART OF THE METRO PARK SYSTEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO LINK TO THAT WHERE WE CAN THE DUBLIN SIGNATURE TRAIL, UM, HOW THAT, HOW THAT WORKS.
UM, ITS WAY THROUGH THAT VARIETY OF HOUSING IS A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL AS THEN, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE PONDEROSA SITE.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND OUR PREVIOUS PLAN REALLY DID A GOOD JOB OF CALLING THAT OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUES TO BE PROTECTED.
WHICH AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD RELATED TO THAT.
SO HAVING, AGAIN, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN HERE REALLY HELPS, UM, HELPS WITH THAT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THING ABOUT THAT IS THE, THAT WOODED, THE WOODED RESERVE AT AVONDALE WOODS.
SO IT SHOW THAT THAT WHOLE WOODED AREA SHOWS UP IN THE AREA PLAN.
AND IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT IS FOR IS IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, THERE'S A PUBLIC PARKING AND A PUBLIC FACILITY.
IS THAT WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PRESERVED AREA? OR IS THE IDEA THAT IT IS GONNA BE OPENED UP TO AS LIKE A PARK? I, I WAS, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS NOT CLEAR TO ME.
'CAUSE I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHAT THE AGREEMENTS ARE WITH THE AVONDALE WOODS PRESERVATION AREA.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS LIKE TOTALLY LIKE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEM.
THAT DEFINITELY IS, SO THIS IS WHERE IMAGES AND WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSING ON AND WHAT PEOPLE SEE ARE TWO NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME THING.
UM, SO I THINK IF, AGAIN, THAT IMAGE IS JUST MEANT TO SHOW LIKE LARGER TREE STANDS, BUT, BUT WHERE IT SAYS FOUR IT SHOWS LIKE THERE'S A ROAD THAT COMES OFF AND A CUL-DE-SAC AND A BUILDING.
AND I JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, I I, AGAIN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ISN'T THE ACTUALLY THE PRESERVED WOODS A AS A DESIGNATED WITH A BOUNDARY AND I MEAN IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IF THAT, UM, PUD TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THERE WOULD BE PARKING AND ACCESS.
SO YOU COULD HAVE SOME, YEAH, YOU COULD MEANDER THROUGH THERE.
I TRULY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT THAT'S ONE I CAN SEE.
I'M CURIOUS, YEAH, CURIOUS AS WE LOOK AT APPLICATIONS IN THAT AREA OF WHAT YEP.
UM, WHAT ELSE? SO THEN IN TERMS OF, UM, SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, AGAIN, THERE'S SUCH LARGE AREAS THAT IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THESE BIG AREAS OF LAND AND HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE? UM, PARTICULARLY ALONG, YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HEARTH AND TU CROSSING, WE GET LOTS OF INTEREST IN THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT HAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THE EXISTING TREE STAND AND THERE'S UM, STREAM CORRIDOR, UM, ALONG THERE.
SO AGAIN, HOW DO YOU PRESERVE THAT, RIGHT, AS PRIVATE PROPERTY? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT GETS PRESERVED BUT THEN ALSO PROVIDE SOME DENSITY, UM, THEN IN THE OTHER SORT OF SOUTHERN PORTION OF THAT.
SO HOW DOES THAT, AS AN EXAMPLE? UM, AND THEN SIMILARLY LIKE WILCOX AND TUTTLE CROSSING THAT THERE'S UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES.
HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THAT MEETS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD INTENDED SCALE, PARTICULARLY ALONG TUTTLE CROSSING BOULEVARD? SO, UM, SO SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN OUR ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN, AGAIN, REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, SHOWS HOW RESIDENTIAL COULD BE, UM, INCLUDED AT A LARGER SCALE, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S NOT DOWN TO THE SPECIFIC LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS LOOKING AT POTENTIAL STREET CONNECTIONS.
'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, AS PART OF APPLICATIONS, LIKE WHERE ARE THE ROADS, CONNECTIONS, WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO THE PLAN IS REALLY TRYING TO GET TO
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THAT.BUT THEN ALSO SHOWING, YOU KNOW, TUTTLE CROSSING BOULEVARD AND WHERE THAT'S BEEN SHOWN, WE ARE SHOWING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT TO THEN CARRY THAT FURTHER TO THE WEST TO HELP PROVIDE THAT REGIONAL, UM, CONNECTION, WHICH IS GONNA REQUIRE SOME COORDINATION WITH OUR, WITH OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
I DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA COPY OF THIS.
UM, ANYWAY, SO THAT'S I THINK THE BIGGEST PIECES WITHIN THE SOUTHWEST AREA THAT I CAN THINK OF.
I DON'T KNOW IF REBECCA OR KIM, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA HIGHLIGHT? NO.
ANY QUESTIONS OR CALL OUTS FROM ANYBODY AT THIS POINT ON THAT? OKAY.
UM, THEN WEST INNOVATION, AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S REALLY LOOKING AT, SO FROM A PLANNING CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UM, WHAT THE FOCUS OF THAT HAS BEEN, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REMAINING COMPETITIVE IN THE REGION, BUT THEN ALSO PROVIDING THAT BALANCE OF LIKE, YOU, YOU COULD LIVE HERE, YOU COULD WORK HERE, YOU'RE ADJACENT TO THAT.
UM, AND THEN RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
'CAUSE THERE'S A GOOD MIX, UM, WITHIN, IF NOT WITHIN THE AREA, SURROUNDING THAT AREA.
SO HOW DO ALL THOSE PIECES, UM, COME TOGETHER FROM A PLANNING CONTEXT STANDPOINT? SO REALLY LOOK, EXCUSE ME, LOOKING AT, UM, AND PULLING FROM, AND ALL OF THESE, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT AS WELL.
LIKE, WE HAVE EXISTING AREA PLANS.
SO WE REALLY DID TRY TO SYNTHESIZE AND LOOK AT WHAT IS THE PREVIOUS PLAN SHOW.
AND SOME OF THESE, PARTICULARLY WEST INNOVATION, IT HAD ITS OWN SORT OF SEPARATE, I MEAN, IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, BUT IT'S ITS OWN SEPARATE THING.
SAME WITH DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA WHERE IT'S LIKE 80 PAGES.
SO I'M TRYING TO TAKE THAT AND PUT THAT IN A DIGESTIBLE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS ANOTHER ITERATION HERE.
BUT REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON WHAT WERE THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THAT THAT ARE REALLY RELEVANT, UM, AT CURRENTLY.
UM, SO AGAIN, PARTNERSHIPS AGAIN WITH OU, OSU, UM, FUTURE PARTNERS IN THAT AREA, REALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UM, BALANCING THOSE AMENITIES THAT I TALKED ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IN INNOVATION DISTRICT IS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST THAT, RIGHT? WE'RE INNOVATING, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES AND SUPPORTING USES AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD, UM, FURTHER THAT, BUT NOT GIVING UP ON THAT CHARACTER AND DESIGN ELEMENT THAT MAKES THIS UNIQUE.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF INTERESTING NATURAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES WITHIN THIS AREA.
SO POTENTIAL FOR GREENWAY CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED.
UM, A BIG PART OF WEST INNOVATION IS THE REGULATORY PROCESS.
THAT THAT IS A MUCH, UM, EASILY DEFINED AND NAVIGATED PROCESS THAT A LOT OF IT HAPPENS AT THE A RT LEVEL.
UM, SO THAT IF THINGS DON'T MEET THE CODE THEN IT COMES TO YOU.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS APPROVED OUT THERE THAT IS REALLY SORT OF THAT SPEED TO BUILD AND HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, NOT FORGETTING ABOUT OUR STREETSCAPE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT? THIS IS INTENDED TO BE EMPLOYMENT, BUT YOU KNOW, WORKERS WANT TO GET OUTSIDE AND USE THAT.
AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AND CONNECTIVITY.
SO HOW DO ALL THOSE PIECES, UM, COME TOGETHER AS WE LOOK AT THIS PLAN? JENNY, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE PIECE THAT MM-HMM,
UM, I, I KNOW I GO BACK TO THE, THE LAND USE PLAN, WHAT IT SHOWS FOR THIS AREA AND THEN WHAT THE AREA PLAN SHOWS AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE DARI FIELDS, IT SHOWS EXPANDING OUT THE GRAY, UM, IN THE AREA PLAN.
AND IT ALSO REALLY CELEBRATES SPORTS OHIO AS A, AS A GREEN PART OF THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND OBVIOUSLY, UM, MOVES SOME FIELDS SO THAT START TO ALIGN IT MORE WITH D FIELDS HERE STARTING TO REALLY CREATE A MAJOR SPORTS COMPLEX.
BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY REFLECTED IN THE OVERALL LAND USE PLAN.
AND I, I, THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT POINT.
UM, WHY I'M ASKING IS, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION.
NO, I'M GONNA, I'M, IT'S A GOOD, I'M GLAD YOU RAISED THAT 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT SAME DISCUSSION INTERNALLY TOO.
SO TYPICALLY IF THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY AND IT'S PARK, WE SHOW IT AS PARK AS A FUTURE LAND USE, RIGHT? SO IN THIS INSTANCE, SPORTS OHIO IS NOT A CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
SO IF THAT WOULD DEVELOP OR REDEVELOP YES, IT'S, WHICH IS WHY ON THIS, ON THIS SPECIAL AREA PLAN, IT SHOWS IT AS PARK BECAUSE THAT'S, OR LEAST SPORTS USES 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT THE FUTURE LAND USE, IF SOMEBODY WOULD COME FORWARD, WE WOULD WANT THAT OPPORTUNITY POTENTIALLY FOR SOME OTHER EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USE THAT IS WORTHY OF A NOTE PROBABLY ON THE MORE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN.
LIKE THIS IS WHAT'S THERE NOW, BUT SHOULD SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAPPEN, WE WANNA SEE SOMETHING THAT MEETS THE FUTURE LAND.
THAT'S THE THING THAT JUST WE HAVE TO KEEP IN OUR MIND
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IS THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU DON'T OWN IT AND IT'S NOT DESIGNATED AS PARK, YOU CAN'T REALLY SHOW IT THAT WAY.BUT THE AREA PLAN IS, THERE'S JUST A LOT THERE IN THE AREA PLAN THAT REALLY PROMOTES THAT AS A GREEN PLACE WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
AND IT, IT, SO IT, TO ME IT'S, I DON'T KNOW
WHERE DOES THE, WHERE DOES THAT INDOOR RECREATION FALL ON AS A DESCRIPTION? IS IT, IS IT CONSIDERED INDUSTRIAL? 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT THE, THE, THE ROCKING ROCK AND JUMP AND THE AIR PARK OVER THERE.
THERE'S SOME OF THOSE INDOOR LIKE REC SPACES THAT SPORTS OHIO HAS.
WHAT'S THAT FALL UNDER IN TERMS OF THESE CA IS THAT INDUSTRIAL OR SOME OF THOSE ARE A TECH FLEX ZONING.
UM, SPORTS OHIO HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC ZONING WITHIN THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT.
IT'S, ID FIVE LIKE IT'S ITS OWN ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW IT TO BE THERE.
SO, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE LIKE ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE PART LIKE COME TOGETHER, UM, AT SOME POINT.
SO YES, WE DO HAVE SOME LIKE, UH, URBAN AIR IS AFLEX ZONING URBAN.
SO THAT, BUT THAT HAS LIMITATIONS TO, RIGHT.
SO THE ZONING HAS A LIMITATION THAT YOU CAN ONLY BE A CERTAIN TWO 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER PARCEL.
'CAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE USES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY COMPATIBLE.
THOSE ARE BIG, UM, BUILDINGS TO ME ARE FLEX INNOVATION BUILDINGS, BUT IT'S NOT HAVE A RECREATION USE.
IT'S NOT LISTED IN, IN THE SUPPORTING USES.
THAT'S A FOLLOW IN IN ACTUAL CATEGORY IF IT NEEDS TO BE.
I WAS JUST, I DON'T YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS.
SO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK AS A BODY AND WE'RE TAKING ACTION ON THEM, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL CONSIDERED SO THAT STAFF HAS TIME TO INCORPORATE STAFF'S NOT PERFECT.
AND, AND OF COURSE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
BUT FORCEFUL THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE WANT.
SO PLEASE KEEP, KEEP THOSE COMING.
THAT'S THE DANGER, RIGHT? OF DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
'CAUSE THEN YOU'RE MAYBE NOT THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PRECLUDING BY ACCIDENT.
SO, UM, WE CAN ALWAYS DOWN SPORTS OHIO, THINK ZONING COMMERCIAL, IT'S INDUSTRIAL OR SOMETHING LIGHTING.
IT HAS ITS OWN ZONING DISTRICT IN THE WEST.
INNOVATION WHAT? IT HAS ITS OWN ZONING CLASSIFICATION, RIGHT? FOR YEARS AGO, A ZONE RECORD, YOU COULD HAVE BUILT A MM-HMM.
WELL, RIGHT NOW IT HAS BASICALLY SPORTS AND REC USE ZONING.
BUT IT CAN BE RECREATE IT'S RECREATION NOW.
RIGHT? AND IT COULD ALWAYS BE RECREATION, RIGHT? YES.
SO, BUT, BUT YOU CAN, IT DOESN'T NOT NECESSARILY ZONE RECREATION.
THAT'S A DOWN ZONING FROM WHAT IT IS.
SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY PLAN COMES IN.
SHOULD IT REDEVELOP? THAT'S RIGHT.
WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO BE? AND SO JAMIE'S HIGHLIGHTING WAS, OR I THINK KIM STARTED, WAS, HEY, IT DOESN'T REFLECT ITS CURRENT USE, SO DO WE WANT TO NOTE THAT? RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS.
YEAH, YOU GOT INDUSTRIALS IS IN PLACE AND THAT, THAT WON'T BE APPROPRIATE WHEN DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT COUNSEL.
UM, ANY OTHER THINGS RELATED TO TO THAT? OKAY.
UM, THEN WE HAVE THE EMERALD CORRIDOR.
SO AGAIN, THIS AREA WAS ONE WHERE WE HAD A BRIGHT ROAD AREA PLAN.
WE HAD, UM, SOME AREA NEAR LIKE ADJACENT TO, UM, WE CALL IT THE BOW TIE, UM, BUT ADJACENT TO KAUFMAN PARK.
UM, AND THEN SOME AREAS FURTHER DOWN EMERALD PARKWAY.
SO WE REALLY FELT LIKE THE EMERALD CORRIDOR IN GENERAL REALLY NEEDED THAT SORT OF LIFTING UP OF THIS IS OUR EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR IN TERMS OF THOROUGHFARE, SO HOW DO WE, AND IT'S ADJACENCY TO TWO 70.
SO REALLY WANTING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, AND MAKE THAT SORT OF ONE DISTRICT SO THAT WHEN YOU GET TO SORT OF THAT PARKWOOD AREA THAT USED TO BE WITHIN THE DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN, THAT'S NOW WITHIN THE EMERALD CORRIDOR, UH, PLAN.
AGAIN, YOU COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT, IT PROBABLY FITS IN BOTH.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, REALLY LOOKING AT, SO THAT'S SORT OF SIMILAR TO THE SOUTHWEST AREA.
SO HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THE VARIOUS CHARACTERS, UM, ARE MAINTAINED? AND OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD, UM, A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT OVER THE YEARS RELATED TO THE BRIGHT ROAD AREA.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY MAINTAINING WHAT THAT'S IN ALL OF THESE, HONESTLY, WHAT THOSE PREVIOUS SPECIAL AREA PLANS ARE LOOKING AT WITH OBVIOUSLY SOME TWEAKS BASED ON THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, UM, RECENTLY OR IF WE'VE HAD ANY SORT OF CHANGE IN THINKING OF HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND ALL THAT IS ACTUALLY APPLICABLE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT PARKWOOD SITE.
UM, BUT OVERALL RECOMMENDATIONS, AGAIN, PARTICULARLY WHERE THERE'S, UM, ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
HOW ARE WE BUFFERING THAT? HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE, UM, GREEN SPACE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, BUT ALSO THIS IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS.
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SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING, UM, OUR CIRCULATION AND ACCESS ALONG THERE? UM, WITHIN THAT BRIGHT ROAD AREA, WE HAVE SOME ARCHEOLOGICAL FEATURES THAT WE WANNA PRESERVE.UM, THIS, IN MANY INSTANCES, THIS EMERALD CORRIDOR IS THIS REALLY HIGH VISIBLE AREA INTO DUBLIN.
UM, AND REALLY, SO NOT JUST INTERNAL BUT EXTERNAL WHEN YOU'RE ON TWO 70, THAT FRONTAGE IS REALLY KEY.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE REALLY GREAT ARCHITECTURE, UM, DYNAMIC BUILDINGS, SITE PLANNING AND THINGS ARE REALLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT VISIBILITY, UM, WHICH AGAIN GETS TO THAT HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, WITHIN THOSE AREAS.
AND AGAIN, MANAGING ACCESS ALONG THAT TOO.
LIKE WE CAN'T MOVE LOTS OF TRAFFIC IF THERE'S LOTS OF VEHICLE INTERRUPTIONS.
SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT IN A REALLY THOUGHTFUL WAY AS WELL? SO, UM, WITHIN THIS SPECIAL AREA, AS I MENTIONED, SO THE FIRST ONE IS THIS PERIMETER, CENTRAL EMERALD, UM, AREA, WHICH AGAIN, IS, IS RIGHT OUT HERE OFF OF EMERALD PARKWAY BETWEEN POST AND PERIMETER ESSENTIALLY.
UM, WHICH AGAIN IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACCESS, RIGHT? THAT'S A KEY KEY COMPONENT TO THAT, THAT ACCESS IS REALLY CONSOLIDATED IN THIS.
UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY GIVEN ITS VISIBILITY ON EMERALD PARKWAY, BUT ALSO THEN WHEN YOU'RE AT THAT, UM, INTERCHANGE, THAT'S A REALLY KEY KEY COMPONENT.
THANK YOU MR. WAY FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT
UM, BUT THAT'S A REALLY KEY PIECE TO THAT AND HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT.
UM, THEN THE NEXT ONE AS I MENTIONED IS BRIGHT ROAD.
SO THIS HAS A VERY INTERESTING VARIETY OF USES ALONG THAT IN THIS SMALL, SMALL SECTION.
SO, UM, REALLY LOOKING AT CONTINUING PARTICULARLY AT THE, THAT SORT OF CURVED PARCEL ADJACENT TO MOUNT CARMEL, THAT THAT CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN THAT OFFICE, THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OFFICE, UM, USES THERE.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS REALLY ADVOCATED FOR THAT TO RETAIN, UM, RETAIN THAT OFFICE USE THERE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SHOWING MOUNT CARMEL, UM, AND THEN OUR IMPROVEMENTS IN, IN THOSE AREAS WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS AND THEN THAT EMERALD CONNECTOR, WHICH WOULD, UM, I I ASSUME THERE'S A HEALTHCARE USE THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY IN THE KEY, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, BECAUSE IT'S GOT THE NURSING HOME.
WE HAD A COLORING LEGEND ISSUE, UM, YEAH.
SO WE'RE, WE'LL UPDATE THAT AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, 'CAUSE THAT INSTITUTIONAL USE ON THE NORTH SIDE ADJACENT TO LIFETIME FITNESS IS SOMETHING, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S NOT BEEN APPROVED, BUT THAT USE IS APPROPRIATE.
SO WE ACTUALLY ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT LIKE HOW DETAILED DO YOU SHOW A PLAN THAT'S NOT BEEN APPROVED IN THAT AREA.
SO WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THAT.
BUT, AND THE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS THREE, THREE RECENT APPLICATIONS.
SO THOSE ALSO MAKE GOOD TEST CASES.
AND I HONESTLY HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THAT SORT OF CURVED PARCEL ON THE, ON THE CORNER AND WOULD RESIDENTIAL BE ENTERTAINED THERE? AND IT WAS MY ANSWER WAS NO.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S CONTINUES TO BE AN AREA OF INTEREST.
SO, UM, THE PARKWOOD SITE IS DEFINITELY ONE TO HIGHLIGHT.
UM, AND DEFINITELY YOUR COMMENTS, UM, RELATED TO THIS, BE THINKING ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE YOU MAY SEE AN APPLICATION, UM, THAT'S AGAIN, THIS IS THE CHALLENGE WITH UPDATING THE PLAN, RIGHT? WE HAVE A CURRENT PLAN THAT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE PREVIOUSLY REALLY ONLY FOCUSED ON OFFICE.
AND OUR ENVISION DUBLIN DISCUSSION HAS BEEN, THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING CORNER AT WARNER TEMPLE AND EMERALD PARKWAY AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, AGAIN, SORT OF THAT MIXED USE NODE THERE AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDITION OF RESIDENTIAL USES IN THAT AREA TO SUPPORT OFFICE.
SO THAT IS A COMPLETE DEVIATION FROM OUR CURRENT PLAN AND WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
SO, UM, AND AGAIN, THE HOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE TALKING ABOUT NEXT WEEK.
BUT AGAIN, THAT REALLY COMES INTO PLAY OF, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO PRESERVE THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT TWO 70 FRONTAGE FOR OFFICE, FOR FUTURE OFFICE USERS TO BE THERE.
BUT THEN AS YOU'RE TRANSITIONING TO THE WEST TOWARDS EMERALD PARKWAY AND CAMDEN OFFICE, IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT, USES RESIDENTIAL USES? AGAIN, HOW THAT HAPPENS IS, UM, IS THE DISCUSSION, BUT SO THAT IS A CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS PLAN.
SO THIS, THIS AREA IN THE LAND USE PLAN IS DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE VV NO NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK, I THINK NEIGHBORHOOD, CHRIS AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING.
I THINK IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNOW THE COLOR CODING IS, UM, WE RAN OUTTA, I THINK IT'S NE I THINK IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.
THE ONLY VILLAGE IS ACTUALLY, UM, HISTORIC DUB.
HISTORIC DOUBLE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH YEAH.
AGAIN, IF YOU MATCH THAT UP WITH THE MM-HMM
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THE GRAPHICS AS WE KEEP GOING FORWARD HERE ARE GETTING REALLY, REALLY SPECIFIC, UM, TO DESCRIBE AN AREA.AND I WAS SAYING MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FRAMEWORK.
AND YOU COULD DO THE, YOU KNOW, SHELL BUILDINGS TOO.
BUT THE THE ONES BEFORE YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NEW YEAH.
INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT'S A ROAD.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE REINFORCING THAT ANIMAL PARKWAY, THIS ONE GETS INTO A MORE SPECIFIC RIGHT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S CHARACTER, YOU'RE DESIGNATE IT'S A DIFFERENT DESIGNATION TOO.
SO, UM, YOU MEAN WE DON'T WANNA CALL OUT EVERY TREE? JUST KIDDING.
SOME OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS, THAT'S FOR SURE.
I, IT AGAIN, IT JUST, YEAH, YOU GOT MY POINT FOR THE LAST TIME.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, LIKE HOW DO, HOW DO WE INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE BIGGER PICTURE FRAMEWORK PIECES VERSUS THEN, LIKE IN THIS INSTANCE, THIS DOES HELP TELL THE STORY OF LIKE, YES, IT'S MIXED USE, BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? RIGHT? IT'S, IS IT A SINGLE BUILDING THAT HAS RESIDENTIAL VERSUS MULTIPLE BUILDINGS THAT SCALE UP OR DOWN? I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S ALL PART OF THIS DISCUSSION OF WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THIS IS ONE WHERE I'M STRUGGLING WITH
CAN YOU REMIND ME? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE ASTERISK ARE.
I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING THE, THE RED ASTERISKS ON PARKWOOD.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE ARE, HONESTLY.
WELL I, IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S SORT OF LIKE LITTLE NOTES FEATURES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT'S, I WILL ASK THE QUESTION.
UM, YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY SOME LIKE NODE OR GATEWAY OR SOMETHING IS HOW WE DIFFERENTIATE THAT IN OTHER AREAS.
A COUPLE OF THEM LOOK LIKE THEY COULD BE GATEWAY, BUT THEN THERE ARE SOME THAT DEFINITELY LOOK LIKE THEY WOULDN'T BE, YEAH.
SO MAYBE VIEW CORRIDORS OR SOMETHING.
I THINK ANOTHER THING TOO, WHICH I, I ACTUALLY SKIPPED OVER THAT IN THE WEST INNOVATION IS WE HAVE SOME CALL OUT PAGES, UM, AND SORT OF SPECIAL SPREADS OF INFORMATION RELATED TO THE OU FRAMEWORK PLAN AND THE WEST PASSENGER RAIL STATION.
UM, WHICH AGAIN NEEDS SOME, THEY NEED A LITTLE LOVE, BUT THE GOAL IS TO HELP WHERE THERE ARE THESE OTHER STUDIES OR THINGS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO HELP DRIVE THE POINT HOME THAT WE WANNA INCORPORATE THAT.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY ASK YOU TOO, AND I'VE ASKED OUR STAFF TO DO THAT TOO.
ARE THERE OTHER THINGS WHEN WE MEET AND TALK ABOUT THIS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED, RIGHT.
OR OTHER GRAPHICS OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER IMPORTANT COMPONENTS TO THAT, UM, THAT WOULD HELP ILLUSTRATE THE POINT OR PHOTOS LIKE, I HATE THIS PICTURE 'CAUSE THIS DOESN'T DO, OR I SEE THIS AND THAT'S, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVEY TO ME? RIGHT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S ALL PART OF THIS, LIKE EVERY, ALL THESE PIECES MATTER, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
SO BE DEFINITELY BE THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO.
UM, SO THEN THE LAST ONE IN HERE I THINK IS, I THINK WE HAVE TWO MORE.
SO AGAIN, THAT IS VERY SIMILAR, UM, TO WHAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS, UM, AREA PLAN.
THE LEVEL OF DETAIL ON THAT ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN AS WE GET INTO THAT WILL CHANGE AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SYNTHESIZED.
'CAUSE WE NEED THAT LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL, UM, OF GRAPHIC DETAIL.
UM, THIS AT THIS POINT IS REALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE SORT OF NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, SAME THING WE'RE TAKING FROM THE VISION PLAN AND FROM THE PREVIOUS AREA PLAN AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING THE HIGH LEVEL LIKE JOHN SHIELD'S GREENWAY, WHAT'S HAPPENING ALONG THE, UH, RIVERFRONT, UM, THE CHARACTER AND CORRIDOR OF SOME OF THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
SO HOW, WHAT'S BUT THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT DOCUMENT, THE CODE IS MORE DETAILED THAN THIS.
THE VISION IS MORE, IS IS THE NEXT LAYER, RIGHT? YES.
AND THEN WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION THAT SUPPLEMENTS THIS.
UM, WHAT ELSE? YEAH, I MEAN, AGAIN, SOME OF THESE THINGS OVERLAP, RIGHT? LIKE THE INDIAN RUN GREENWAY AND THIS RUNS SUCH THE GAMUT, RIGHT? I MEAN IT'S SAWMILL ESSENTIALLY OVER TO 33.
SO, UM, IN TERMS OF OUR KEY SITES, WE'RE LOOKING AT MONTEREY DRIVE SITE, THE INDIAN RED NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS REALLY THAT OCLC AND CARDINAL SOUTH AREA.
SO HIGHLIGHTING WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE, UM, SHOPS AT RIVER RIDGE, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO HAPPEN THERE, DUBLIN VILLAGE CENTER.
SO WE REALLY TRIED TO, UM, AGAIN, USE THE INFORMATION IN THE EXISTING PLAN, BUT THEN BUILD ON THAT, UM, AS THIS MOVES FORWARD.
UM, AND THEN THE CALL OUT SORT OF PAGE SPREAD IN HERE IS RELATED TO THAT EAST OF EAST, I KEEP MESSING THAT UP.
EAST BRIDGE STREET CORRIDOR STUDY.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THAT 1 61 CORRIDOR, UM, LARGELY FROM THE ROUNDABOUT
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TO SAWMILL WITH THE INCLUSION OF LINK US AND THE, UH, BRT, THAT BUS WRAPPER TRANSIT.HOW COULD THIS LOOK? HOW DOES THIS FIT TOGETHER? WHAT ARE THE, WHAT DOES THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN LOOK LIKE, UM, AND HOW DO WE SET UP DEVELOPMENT TO SUPPORT THAT? UM, SO THAT'S AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA BE DONE BEFORE THE PLAN IS DONE.
BUT HOW DO WE CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ESSENCE OF THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR PLANNING EFFORTS ARE, UM, ALIGNING.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO INCLUDED IN HERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN, UM, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT OF, OF SOME OF THOSE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT, UM, YOU GET A SENSE PARTICULARLY ALONG THAT TWO 70 CORRIDOR.
SAME THING CALLING OUT, RIGHT? SO MIXED USE URBAN IS THE LAND USE, THE BIG LAND USE THAT'S, UM, PERMITTED WITHIN BRIDGE STREET, BUT KNOWING, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THAT TWO 70 CORRIDOR, SO THAT NUMBER 10 GRAPHIC THAT'S ON HERE IS THAT IS FOR OFFICE EMPLOYMENT, PARKING, OPEN SPACE, NOT RESIDENTIAL.
SO THAT WE'RE REALLY HELPING TO SORT OF DRILL DOWN SOME OF THOSE KEY POINTS.
ANYTHING YOU TWO WANNA HIGHLIGHT ABOUT BRIDGE STREET? OKAY.
AND THEN THE LAST IS DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN.
UM, WHICH AGAIN, WE HAD DONE SOME PLANNING EFFORTS FOR MANY YEARS, UM, WHICH RESULTED IN THEN THAT, UM, DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN BEING ADOPTED IN LIKE THE EARLY, LATE NINETEENS TWENTIES, UM, WITH THEN SOME REFINEMENT OF THAT METRO CENTER IN PARTICULAR.
SO AGAIN, TAKING THAT EXISTING PLAN AND HELPING TO SORT OF SYNTHESIZE THAT DOWN INTO WHAT WERE THE KEY COMPONENTS AND THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UM, AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT PARTICULARLY THERE AREAS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN PARTICULAR, SUCH AS LIKE LEWELLEN FARMS, UM, OR THAT CORBIN'S MILL, SOME WATERFORD, THOSE AREAS THAT WERE REALLY MAKING SURE THAT THOSE TRANSITIONS, UM, ARE HAPPENING NICELY, BUT THAT WE'RE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THEIR COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF THAT PROCESS ARE MAINTAINED.
'CAUSE THAT WAS A, UM, A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION AND LED TO A BETTER PLAN WITH THEIR ENGAGEMENT.
SO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S MAINTAINED.
SO WE'RE REALLY, AGAIN, FOCUSING ON WITHIN THIS DUBLIN CORPORATE AREA PLAN, THE MIX OF USES AND AMENITIES.
UM, AGAIN, THE ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS PIECE OF THIS IS AGAIN, REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING AT HOW PEOPLE WORK, WHERE THEY WANNA WORK, WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
CONNECTIVITY, UM, WHETHER THAT'S INTERNAL IN METRO, BUT THEN ALSO EXTERNAL, UM, TO BRIDGE STREET, BUT THEN ALSO POTENTIALLY ACROSS TWO 70, UM, PLACEMAKING AND OPEN SPACE ARE KEY COMPONENTS TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, AGAIN, NOT WANTING TO REPLICATE BRIDGE STREET, BUT LEARN FROM THAT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO APPLY THAT SUCCESSFULLY HERE.
UM, A LOT OF OUR KEY SITES ARE RELATED TO, UM, FRANCE ROAD FRONTAGE AT METRO, THAT THAT'S A POTENTIAL LIKE CATALYTIC SITE THAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
AND A LOT OF WORK IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT FOCUSED ON WHAT THAT, WHAT THOSE SORT OF TENANTS OF, UM, DESIGN SHOULD BE FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, AND THEN WE GET TO SOME OF THESE RINGS ROAD PROPERTIES WHERE THERE'S LIKE THE UN UNINCORPORATED PROPERTY OR THE AREA WHERE THE CORNERS IS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT INFILL THINGS PARTICULARLY RELATED TO THAT EXISTING BUILDING THAT, UM, SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, UM, AND WEST BLAZER.
UM, SO AGAIN, IN THIS AREA WE HAVE SORT OF THESE THREE CALL OUT AREAS, UM, FOR THAT.
AND THEN AGAIN, METRO CENTER IS THE VERY LAST THING.
SO THAT REVITALIZATION, LIKE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ALSO CALLED OUT HERE PROBABLY WON'T BE NECESSARILY IN A SPACE WHERE THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED IN GREAT DETAIL.
BUT, SO AGAIN, I WOULD IMAGINE THIS WOULD GET, UM, UPDATED A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW THAT WE'RE AGAIN, CONTINUING TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO, SO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE WEST BLA BLAZER GRAPHICS IS REALLY PART OF THE METRO CENTER YES.
PLANNING, RIGHT? SO ALL KIND OF INTER KIND SO THAT INTER SO THOSE HAVE TO MARRY UP BETTER.
SO UNTIL THAT PLAN IS FINAL MM-HMM.
OR IS THIS PLAN ALREADY DRIVING? IS BEING INFORMED BY THAT PLAN? NOT NECESSARILY.
UH, I, I, AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT METRO CENTER IMPLEMENTATION PLAN HELPS TO DRIVE SOME OF THESE OTHER PIECES.
SO YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY TOO, IS HOW MUCH TO SHOW HERE.
PARTICULARLY WITH THAT ROADWAY CONNECTION, WHAT'S WHERE, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH APPLICANTS ALONG THE WAY, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT'S, WHERE'S THE RIGHT LOCATION AND PART OF THIS METRO CENTER PLAN IS GONNA HELP TO IDENTIFY THAT.
AND YOU HAVE YOU, YOU SAW MY COMMENTS ON THAT? YEAH.
AND IT'S, I MEAN, AND IT'S, SOMETHING DOESN'T, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT, RIGHT? LIKE HOW IS IT HERE? IS IT FURTHER TO THE EAST? YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE
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THEN AGAIN, IN ONE LOCATION YOU'RE POTENTIALLY CONTROLLING BOTH SIDES OF THE FRONTAGE.THERE'S LOTS OF PROS AND CONS TO ALL THESE PIECES AND BUT WHERE IT'S BEEN SHOWN HISTORICALLY IS NOT THIS ALIGNMENT.
IT'S FURTHER, IT'S FURTHER TO THE YEAH.
BUT YES, WHATEVER ON THAT PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND SO THAT IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON HOW THIS SITE DEVELOP.
SO YEAH, GETTING, AGAIN, THAT'S BACK TO THE FRAMEWORK, LIKE WHAT'S THE ROADWAY STRUCTURE, RIGHT? AND THEN MAYBE THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE.
I KNOW, RIGHT? IT REALLY ARE LARGE NUTSHELL.
UM, I MEAN, AGAIN, THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TOO TO HELP SUPPORT THIS IS, AND WE'VE DONE THIS IN SOME OF THE OTHER CHAPTERS OF THE PLAN, LIKE REALLY INFUSING WHAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN.
SO AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS IS BASED ON, UM, ENGAGEMENT.
SO LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN EACH OF THESE AREA PLANTS TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, TOP THREE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, JUST TO HELP REINFORCE THAT WE ARE NOT, IT'S NOT JUST US OUT HERE MAKING CHOICES.
UM, THAT IT'S REALLY TIED BACK TO DIRECTION AND FEEDBACK.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY ANTICIPATE YOU SEEING THAT.
UM, WHAT ELSE? YEAH, ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE GOOD QUOTES, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AREA HAS DID A GOOD JOB OF THAT.
'CAUSE WE DID THAT WITH THE TASK FORCE WORK.
UM, BUT I COULD SEE THAT HAPPENING TOO.
SO WE REALLY WANT THIS TO BE TYING BACK TO WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND NOT JUST AT THE STEERING COMMITTEE LEVEL.
SO WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, THOUGHTS, THINGS TO SHARE AT THIS POINT? WHEN ARE WE LOOKING AT SETTING UP THE ONE-ON-ONES? I COULD DEFINITELY SEE THAT HAPPENING IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
UM, IF, IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE, AND AGAIN, WE CAN DO THIS VIRTUALLY.
YOU CAN COME TO OUR OFFICE, WE CAN DO WHATEVER'S EASIER FOR EVERYONE.
UM, HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
SO I'LL PROBABLY JUST SEND OUT AN EMAIL WITH SOME LIKE BLOCKS OF TIME IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
UM, 'CAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH SOME ITERATIONS.
I'M TRYING TO NAVIGATE, WE NEED TO HAVE A DOCUMENT LIKE THE NEXT ROUND OF CHANGES FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
SO AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE INCORPORATED IN THIS NEXT ROUND.
BUT THEN BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU FOR A FINAL, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY WOULD, MY GOAL WOULD BE FOR OBVIOUSLY FOR THEM TO BE INCORPORATED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THAT MAY MEETING.
SO, SO THEN JUST KEEPING IN MIND, THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS NOT A, UM, AN ADMINISTRATIVE BODY.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE OFFICIALLY ADOPTING IT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WOULD BE RECOMMENDING THIS FOR APPROVAL.
SO CITY COUNCIL WOULD ACTUALLY VOTE TO APPROVE IT WITH INPUT FROM THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, CORRECT? YES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR NEXT STEPS.
SO THE NEXT, BUT WE HAVE A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL JOINT MEETING.
WE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT APRIL THE 29TH.
UM, COUNCIL'S ALREADY DOING A WORK SESSION THAT NIGHT.
SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, WOULD THAT BE AN OPPORTUNITY? SO THEN AT THAT POINT, YOU, THAT HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED YET, RIGHT? IT HASN'T.
'CAUSE I, AGAIN, WE HAD NOT ALL DISCUSSED IT AS A GROUP.
UM, AND I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONTINUES TO WORK FOR AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, UM, AS WELL.
SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK YOU TO LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE EVEN AVAILABLE.
UM, AND COUNCIL'S NOT HAD THIS SORT OF NEXT LEVEL EITHER.
SO SOME OF IT MIGHT BE REPETITIVE, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY TRY TO, I LIKE THE KEEPING THE HIGHLIGHTS PART OF THAT.
SO, SO, SO MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, MM-HMM,
SO IS THAT JUST A MM-HMM,
UM, WHICH AGAIN, MAY OR MAY NOT INCORPORATE ALL THE COMMENTS.
'CAUSE THAT'S, I BASICALLY HAVE A WHOLE WEEK TO MAKE THIS MAGIC HAPPEN HERE BEFORE NEXT FRIDAY.
SO, UM, SO THERE AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
LIKE, I DEFINITELY WANNA HEAR FROM YOU AND THAT'S GONNA HELP INFORM SOME OF THESE THINGS.
UM, IT'S JUST, IS IT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE DONE IN TIME, BUT NOT SUBSTANTIVE FEEDBACK AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PRETTY FINAL DRAFT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO LOOK, THERE'S, THERE BE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT COUNCIL AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE, BECAUSE THE STEERING COMMITTEE WON'T HAVE REVIEWED THIS FINAL DRAFT, I WOULD ENVISION THAT THERE WOULD BE NOT NECESSARILY LIKE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES,
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BUT THEY'RE GONNA WANNA SEE SOME THINGS OR HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL GRAPHICS OR THINGS INCORPORATED FOLLOWING THAT.WHICH IS WHY I THINK THAT VERSION THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE FOR YOUR MAY 23RD MEETING WOULD BE THE MOST FINAL VERSION, RIGHT? LIKE THAT WOULD BE OUR, WE HAVE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS.
WE'VE INCORPORATED ALL THESE THINGS.
UM, I MEAN, AGAIN, IF I CAN GET WITH PEOPLE NEXT WEEK, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT ON AND I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS STILL INTEREST IN DOING THAT.
SO I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT, UM, AND TRY TO MAKE THAT WORK.
UM, AND, AND SEVERAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, CORRECT? SO THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE SEEING THINGS ALSO FOR THE FIRST TIME.
I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN GETTING UPDATES SIMILAR TO YOU ALL ALONG THE WAY, RIGHT? BUT RIGHT.
BUT SEEING THE FINAL DRAFT AND NOT HAVING HAD THAT SORT OF PRIMER IS, UM, RIGHT.
IT'S A, IT'S A LOT, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
SO, SO ON THE 29TH, I FLY IN THAT MORNING.
I COULD MAYBE THERE'S JUST RISK OF FLIGHT DELAYS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
WELL, I WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP ON WHETHER THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT AND IF THAT'S MAKES SENSE.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'LL BE DOING FOR THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
SO
SO LUCKILY WE ONLY KU DO IT LIKE ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS.
EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED
IT'S LIKE, I MEAN, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
THIS IS WHY WE ONLY DO IT EVERY 10 YEARS.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONLY MY THIRD TIME BEING PART OF THIS, SO, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY WHY DUBLIN LOOKS LIKE IT DOES.
'CAUSE WE PUT A LOT OF TIME, EFFORT, AND YEAH.
SO YEAH, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE INNER LEAVING OF THE DIFFERENT PLANTS, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE DCAP PLAN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DISCUSSIONS THERE, METRO PLACE AND, AND UNDERSTANDING, ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DOCUMENTATION IN EACH OF THOSE AREAS IS NOT COOKIE CUTTER BECAUSE THE EVOLUTION OF THOSE AREAS IS NOT COOKIE CUTTER.
SOME OF 'EM ARE VERY EARLY, SOME OF 'EM ARE, YOU KNOW, FARMLAND TODAY AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY COULD BE.
OTHERS ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO REDEVELOP TO, AND OTHERS ARE, HEY, THIS IS JUST BRAND NEW BUILD.
AND SO THE LEVEL, THE DEGREE OF, UH, DETAIL IN EACH ONE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, KUDOS TO THE, THE ENTIRE GROUP BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S A VERY CHALLENGING TASK.
AND IT'S HARD FOR MY BRAIN WHO WANTS EVERYTHING TO BE VERY NICELY ORDERED AND THE SAME.
IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SO WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT SHOWS HOW MUCH HARD WORK WENT INTO IT.
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YOU EVERYONE.DO WE HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION ITEMS THIS EVENING? NO, WE HAVE OUR MEETING, A REGULAR MEETING NEXT WEEK, UM, WITH AGENDA ITEMS. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT PACKET TOMORROW.
UM, YEAH, SO THAT'S, I THINK ALL I CAN THINK OF AT THIS POINT.
SO WHAT MEETINGS? WE HAVE REGULAR P AND Z ON THURSDAY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I, AND AGAIN, SO SINCE WE'RE MEETING NEXT WEEK, I CAN DEFINITELY CLOSE THE LOOP ON THE 29TH.
AND, UM, IN OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THE, THIS, OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN DRAFT? NOTHING'S BEEN ADOPTED OR APPROVED AS WE DELIBERATE CASES.
HAVE THAT CHIME IN ON THAT TOO, IN TERM LAND USE PRINCIPLES.
SO ARE KIND OF OUR GUIDING THAT MR. BOGGS? YEAH, I MEAN, IN OUR PLANNING REPORT, JUST, I GUESS AT THIS POINT, THE WAY WE'RE TARGETING IT IS, UM, THIS, THERE'S A CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN RECOMMENDATION, FUTURE LAND USE.
WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED HERE'S WHAT THE PLAN IS SHOWING AND THEN LETTING YOU ALL SORT OF TALK.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S RIGHTFULLY SO, NOT BEEN ADOPTED, BUT THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.
SO I'LL LET THAT TALK THROUGH HOW HE THINKS THAT SHOULD GO.
AND THEN MAYBE I'LL REVISE MY STAFF REPORT.
NO, THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE THE CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN AND WE HAVE THAT COMMUNITY PLAN UNTIL IT IS SUPERSEDED, UH, BY THIS COMMUNITY PLAN OR SOME VARIANT, YOU KNOW, VARIANT OF IT.
UH, COUNCIL LAST SUMMER ADOPTED INTERIM LAND USE PRINCIPLES TO SORT OF, UH, PROVIDE SOME ORIENTATION IN THE APPLICATION OF THE EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN.
BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ENVISION DUBLIN PLAN, THE INTERIM LAND USE PRINCIPLES, I WILL SAY UNTIL I'M IN THE GRAVE, ARE NOT STANDALONE CRITERIA FOR DECISIONS, BUT ARE LIKE THE COMMUNITY PLAN ITSELF, PART OF
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THE WHOLE DECISION MAKING MATRIX.SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
DOES IT? IF IT DOESN'T, I'LL TRY AGAIN.
SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE NOW BEEN BRIEFED ON WHERE THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS GOING.
WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN, WE KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
WE KNOW WHAT IT, WHERE IT'S HEADED.
DOES THAT, UM, I IMPACT OUR REVIEW PROCESS AT ALL IN TERMS OF HOW WE LOOK AT APPLICATIONS? I WOULD SAY NO, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED BY COUNSEL.
NOW THAT DOES NOT, MR. BOGGS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT DOES NOT PRE PRECLUDE US FROM ADVISING PEOPLE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING YES.
ADVISING PEOPLE TO TAKE PART IN THE APPLICATION, TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC MEETING RECORDS, TO, TO ARM THEMSELVES, TO, UH, EDUCATE THEMSELVES ON WHAT COULD BE IN THE FUTURE.
THERE IS NO, NO RISK IN INFORMING SOMEONE THAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE HAPPENING.
WHETHER THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION, THEY'RE A RESONANT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THERE'S DOCUMENTS IN PLACE AND THAT'S WHAT'S GUIDING US, RIGHT? AND SO JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW THERE'S NEW INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE AND BEING TALKED ABOUT AND JUST, WE HAVE TO ALWAYS REVERT BACK TO, I'M TRYING TO REINFORCE THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO REVERT BACK TO WHAT'S APPROVED, WHAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO, ALRIGHT, WELL, IF THERE IS NO OTHER COMMUNICATION ITEMS THIS EVENING, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMUNICATION ITEMS THIS EVENING, THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, DELIBERATING AND, AND REVIEWING.
YOU CAN SEE THE EFFORT THAT'S GONE INTO IT, BUT THE, THE GOAL IS A SHARED GOAL TO MAKE IT SO THAT OUR JOBS ARE EASIER IN THE FUTURE SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO COME AFTER US KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
AND SO THAT RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS THEY COME FORWARD CAN SEE THAT WE CARE AS MUCH ABOUT DUBLIN, HOW IT DEVELOPS AS PREVIOUS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS CARED ABOUT HOW IT DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ALL TIME.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SACRIFICE AND MEETING ADJOURNED.