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          ALL RIGHT. 
          I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE MS. SALUTO? HERE. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS. HERE. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA. 
          HERE MR. KEELER? HERE. 
          MS. CRAM. 
          HERE. 
          MR. REINER. 
          HERE 
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I MOVE TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING THE EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE AND THE APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL. 
          MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. CRAM? YES. 
          MS. ULTO? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MS. REINER? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          WE WILL RECONVENE AT 7:00 PM GOOD 
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EVENING, EVERYBODY. 
          WE WILL RECONVENE THE COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER THE 25TH. 
          UM, CHRISTINA, COULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? SO 
          [SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS/RECOGNITION]
THIS EVENING, WE ARE HAPPY TO WELCOME DR. 
          MARSH HAUSEN, WHO IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE UPCOMING SCHOOL LEVY. 
          SO, WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, VICE MAYOR DEROSA, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, OR CALLAHAN. 
          UH, GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THE BOARD'S LEVY REQUESTS THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT ON NOVEMBER 7TH. 
          JOINING ME TONIGHT IS OUR TREASURER, C C F O, UH, BRIAN KERN. 
          UH, WE ARE FACED WITH TWO CHALLENGES AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY ARE INDEPENDENT, BUT THEY ARE VERY MUCH INTERRELATED. 
          WE HAVE A GROWING SCHOOL POPULATION. 
          WE ARE GROWING BY 270 STUDENTS PER YEAR, WHICH OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD IS ABOUT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EVERY THREE YEARS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE SOME AGING AND OLDER BUILDINGS THAT NEED MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP. 
          AND AT THE SAME TIME AS ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE ARE ON A FIXED INCOME BETWEEN LEVY CYCLES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO NOT GET THE INFLATIONARY GROWTH THAT WE WOULD GET WITH OUR, UH, REAPPRAISALS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR OUR NEW HOUSING THAT'S COMING THIS WAY. 
          UM, I'M GONNA ASK MR. KERN TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW OUR BOND ISSUE IS NO NEW MILLAGE AND HOW THE REAPPRAISALS AFFECT THE OPERATING LEVY THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU FOR INVITING US THIS EVENING. 
          UM, THIS SE WE DO HAVE, IT'S TO ISSUE 12. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE $145 MILLION, NO NEW MILLAGE BOND ISSUE. 
          AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR A WHILE AND LIVED IN THE DISTRICT, YOU'VE SEEN THAT PROBABLY SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS. 
          UM, THE LAST ONE BEING, UM, IN 2018 WHERE WE DID $195 MILLION, NO NEW MILLAGE ISSUE, UM, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, AS YOU IMAGINE, HOW DO YOU DO IT? NO NEW MILLAGE, UH, AS YOU PAY DOWN, UH, DEBT AND HOW IT'S STRUCTURED AND, AND ALONG WITH INCREASES IN VALUATION, IT ALLOWS US TO MEET OUR DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS WITHOUT RAISING THE MILLAGE AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          UM, THE OPERATING LEVY IS NEW MONEY. 
          UM, IT'S 7.9 MIL OPERATING LEVY, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE BALLOT. 
          UM, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT IT'LL RAISE, UH, APPROXIMATELY $34.2 MILLION AND, UH, FOR BASED OFF A CURRENT VALUES THAT IS $277 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF VALUATION OR MARKET VALUE. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, UH, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN, UH, FRANKLIN COUNTY, YOU'VE GOTTEN YOUR LITTLE POSTCARDS AND, UH, AND MOST LIKELY THOSE HAVE WENT UP EXPONENTIALLY, UH, FROM YOUR LAST, UH, LAST TIME. 
          AND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH REAPPRAISAL NOW IN FRANKLIN AND DELAWARE COUNTY. 
          SO, UH, OTTER ASANO FROM FRANKLIN COUNTY WAS OUT AT OUR BOARD MEETING, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND HE MENTIONED, UH, IN ONE OF HIS SLIDES THAT HE ESTIMATES AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, AND NOW EVERYTHING'S BEING FINALIZED. 
          AND I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, THERE'S, UH, SOME LEGISLATION IN THE OHIO, UH, HOUSE AND BOTH THE SENATE, UH, THAT MAY CHANGE HOW REAPPRAISAL TURNS OUT. 
          UH, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WITH WHAT CURRENT, WHAT HE'S CURRENTLY SEEING, IT'LL BE COLLECTED AT 6.27 MILS OR ABOUT $219 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF MARKET VALUE. 
          SO, A AS WE KNOW, UM, UH, HOUSE BILL NINE 20 AND, AND REAPPRAISAL, UM, DOESN'T ALLOW US TO GET THE WINDFALL. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE DELAWARE COUNTY AUDITOR AUDITOR KITA, UH, HAS MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE DELAWARE COUNTY PORTION OF DUBLIN CITY SCHOOLS, UH, 35% INCREASE WITH TAXES ONLY GOING UP FOR 4%. 
          AND THAT ALLOWS FOR THE INSIDE MILLAGE, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S SPLIT AMONG US. 
          WE HAVE FOUR MILLS OF THE INSIDE 10 MILLS, CITY OF DUBLIN, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, UM, 
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UH, WE DO NOT GET THAT WINDFALL FROM HOUSE BILL NINE 20. 
          AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH TIME, UH, WE'LL ALWAYS COLLECT THE $34.2 MILLION AS WE LOOK AT THE NO NEW MILLAGE BOND PORTION. 
          IN 2018, THE LEVY PASSED ALLOWED US TO BUILD HOPEWELL ELEMENTARY, DEPP ELEMENTARY, EVERSOL RUN MIDDLE SCHOOL, PUT A 60,000 SQUARE FOOT EDITION ON JEROME HIGH SCHOOL THAT JUST OPENED THIS YEAR, HAVE A CENTRALIZED PRESCHOOL AND OPEN THE EMERALD CAMPUS. 
          ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE OPENED WITH THE STAFF ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WITHOUT ANY NEW REVENUE. 
          THE REVENUE THAT WE COLLECTED IN 2018 IS THE SE SAME REVENUE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING TODAY. 
          IF YOU SEE KAUFMAN HIGH SCHOOL, WE'RE NOT KEEPING IT. 
          ORANGE KAUFMAN HIGH SCHOOL IS GETTING NEW SKIN OR NEW SIDING AND NEW WINDOWS THAT ALLOWS US TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENT OF THE TAXPAYERS. 
          FOR A HIGH SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT IN MULTIPLE PHASES OVER DECADES, WE'RE PUTTING MULTI HIT FACILITIES AT BOTH C JEROME AT, OR SORRY, AT KAUFMAN AND S OTA TO MATCH THE FACILITY THAT IS THERE. 
          AT JEROME, WE HAVE OUR JOURNEY 2030 MASTER PLAN. 
          THAT MASTER PLAN ALLOWS US TO KEEP AHEAD OF GROWTH THAT IS NATURALLY COMING. 
          UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THE EIGHTIES IN DUBLIN. 
          WE DEAL WITH GROWTH. 
          WE PREPARE FOR GROWTH, WE RESPOND TO GROWTH, AND WE KEEP OUR FACILITIES IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE THE HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION. 
          OUR COMMUNITY HAS COME TO KNOW. 
          OUR EMERALD CAMPUS SERVES 1,550 STUDENTS PER DAY. 
          IT ALLOWS US, WITH THE ADDITION ON JEROME TO NOT BE HAVING A CONVERSATION TODAY ABOUT A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL WITH EMERALD CAMPUS AND THE ADDITION ON JEROME, WE'RE ABLE TO PUT OFF SEVERAL YEARS THE CHALLENGES WE ARE ULTIMATELY GONNA FACE WITH OVERCROWDING AT OUR THREE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE WAYS AND BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS THAT ALLOW US TO STRETCH THOSE FACILITIES AS LONG AS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CRITICAL CONVERSATION AS A COMMUNITY. 
          JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON OUR FINANCES AND STUFF, AND ALMOST KIND OF WHY ARE WE HERE FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UH, FROM THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS. 
          AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT LITTLE PIE CHART THERE, UM, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOCALLY FUNDED. 
          YOU KNOW, 82% OF OUR LOCAL TAX ARE REVENUE COMES FROM THE LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          UM, I MEAN, THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT IS, UM, WHEN YOU PAY THE PROPERTY TAX, IT COMES TO US. 
          IT DOESN'T GO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU PAY JUST LIKE LOCAL INCOME TAX FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN, IT COMES TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN, UNLIKE YOUR STATE INCOME TAX WHERE IT GOES TO, UH, THE STATE OF OHIO, AND THEN IT SEEMS TO GO EVERYWHERE ELSE. 
          UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ABOUT OF THAT 15%, 9% IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE FORMULA FUNDING, AND WE GET APPROXIMATELY 13 CENTS FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT OUR RESIDENTS SEND IN STATE INCOME TAX BACK TO THIS DISTRICT, WHILE THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE IS PROBABLY AROUND 85 CENTS. 
          SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO LOCAL TAX PAYERS EVERY SO OFTEN TO ASK FOR, UH, UH, REVENUE INCREASES. 
          AND, UH, WHILE THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD IN THE SENSE THAT IT COMES BACK TO US FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AND ALSO IS IT GIVES THAT ACCOUNTABILITY THAT OUR TAXPAYERS DO IT. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. 
          WE'VE HAD CLEAN AUDITS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, UH, MANY REPORTING AWARDS THROUGH G F O A, UH, AND WE'RE ALSO JUST, I'D LIKE THE CITY, WE'RE ALSO TRIPLE A RATED FROM S AND P WHEN IT COMES TO OUR DEBT. 
          SO, UH, WE FEEL REAL GOOD WITH WHAT WE DO. 
          UH, IT IS JUST, UNFORTUNATELY, WE, WE DO HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM AND THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT JUST FROM AN EXPENSE STANDPOINT TO JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE'RE A SERVICE INDUSTRY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, UH, 85% ARE SALARIES AND BENEFITS. 
          AND, AND OF, OF THAT, IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR LATEST STATE REPORT CARD, WHICH WAS GREAT, UM, WE, 75% OF THAT IS SPENT ON DIRECT CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT. 
          WELL, OTHER THINGS WHILE THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, UH, THAT WE HAVE LIKE BUS DRIVERS AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, UM, ONE, ONE OTHER LAST THING. 
          SO WHY ARE WE REALLY HERE? AND, AND DR. 
          MARSHALL HASN'T TALKED ABOUT A REVENUE ISSUE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WE'LL ONLY EVER RAISE $34.2 MILLION, YOU SEE OUR REVENUE LINE THERE AND THE BLUE LINE IS JUST FLAT AS IT GOES ALONG OVER TIME. 
          AND, AND AS EVERYONE'S, UH, KNOWS, UH, THROUGH WHETHER IT'S INCREASED ENROLLMENT, UH, ADDITIONAL NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS, AS WE ADDED STAFF, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE STAFF DEPENDENT. 
          UM, EXPENSES HAVE GONE UP OVER TIME OVER THEN, BUT YET OUR, OUR FUNDING STAYS FLAT, SO WE DO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS. 
          UM, SO ONE THING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT TOO IS IF WE DON'T PASS THIS TIME, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS WE HEAD INTO FISCAL YEAR 26 AND OUR FISCAL YEAR RUNS FROM A JULY ONE TO JUNE 30TH BASIS, UM, THAT WE'LL HAVE A 
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FORECASTED DEFICIT IN FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          AND SO A LOT OF THE THINGS DR. 
          MARSH HASEN IS GONNA TALK ABOUT IS LATER IS IF IT'S ACCEPTS OR REJECTED, IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A POSITIVE CASH BALANCE AS WE GO INTO 27. 
          'CAUSE AS, AS YOU KNOW, UNLIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE CAN'T OPERATE AND BE IN THE RED AND, UH, AND BE IN THE DEFICIT CASH BALANCE. 
          SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO, IF IT'S REJECTED, WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME REDUCTIONS THAT GET US ONE MORE YEAR, UH, OF FISCAL SOLVENCY. 
          ABRAHAM DEPP ELEMENTARY WAS BUILT TO HOUSE 750 STUDENTS. 
          WE'VE ALREADY MOVED OVER 150 STUDENTS OUT OF THAT ATTENDANCE ZONE, AND WE HAVE 12 MODULAR CLASSROOMS THERE THIS YEAR. 
          IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AT ABRAHAM DEPP, IT'LL BE 1400 STUDENTS IN THREE YEARS. 
          EVERSOL RON REACHES ITS CAPACITY IN 26, 27, AND JEROME HIGH SCHOOL WITH THE NEW EDITION REACHES CAPACITY IN 26 27. 
          WHEN THESE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT IN 2018, THE TEAM THEN DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. 
          AT THE TIME, WE WERE TOLD THAT JEROME VILLAGE WAS GONNA BE 2,400 HOMES AND IT WAS ZONED FOR 2,400 HOMES. 
          THERE ARE NOW 5,000 HOMES IN AND AROUND JEROME VILLAGE. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW THINGS LIKE JEROME GRAND ON HIGHLAND CROIX WAS GONNA HAVE 320 APARTMENT UNITS, CONDO UNITS THAT PRODUCE NOW 120 STUDENTS. 
          WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE NON-STUDENT HOUSING, THAT IT WAS MARKETED TOWARDS THOSE 20 SOMETHINGS AND THOSE 60 SOMETHINGS. 
          NOW, IT SAYS, WHEN YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE, JEROME GRAND LUXURY LIVING IN THE DUBLIN JEROME SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE THE JEROME TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES HAVE A 10 75 TIFF ON THAT LAND. 
          SO WE ARE ONLY RECEIVING 25% OF THE REVENUE WITH 120 STUDENTS WHILE THE OTHER 75% OF THAT REVENUE GOES TO SCHOTTENSTEIN REALTY. 
          SO AS WE LOOK AT THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING HERE, NOT ONLY ARE WE SEEING GROWTH WHERE WE DO NOT SEE INFLATIONARY REVENUE COME TOWARDS US, WE ARE SEEING TAX INCENTIVES BEING USED TO PUT MORE TYPES OF HOUSING IN THE DUBLIN CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHERE WHEREBY WE EVEN GET LESS REVENUE THAN WE WOULD'VE BEFORE. 
          I'M SO GRATEFUL TO THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN DUBLIN. 
          WE TALK OFTEN ABOUT THE BRIDGE STREET PROJECT AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE REACHED WHEN BRIDGE STREET CAME PRIOR TO BRIDGE STREET BEING WHAT IT IS TODAY, WE RECEIVED ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAXES FROM THAT AREA. 
          NOW WE HAVE A $1.5 MILLION COMPENSATION AGREEMENT AND 18 STUDENTS, BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY OF DUBLIN SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD HOUSING THAT DOESN'T BRING STUDENTS TO THAT AREA, YOU DO WHAT YOU SAY. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN JEROME TOWNSHIP AND A BLANKET 10 75 TIFF THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED, AND NOW UNION COUNTY AND JEROME TOWNSHIP IN LITIGATION OVER WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS WORK, THAT'S CONCERNING TO US AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN WE SEE THE CITY OF COLUMBUS TAKE THE OLD ATHLETIC CLUB AT OLD SAWMILL AND PUT A 15 YEAR A HUNDRED PERCENT TAX ABATEMENT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WILL HAVE 200 MULTI BEDROOM UNITS ON IT, SAYING THAT IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN ONLY 20% OF IT NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO GET PROJECTED BETWEEN 85 AND A HUNDRED STUDENTS FROM THAT LAND AND ZERO TAX REVENUE FROM IT FOR 20 YEARS. 
          WE HAVE CONCERNS, BUT WE ARE GRATEFUL TO OUR PARTNERS IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT YOU DO NOT TIFF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. 
          WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT NON-SCHOOL TIFFS ARE USED AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES. 
          AND WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WITH EVERY HOUSE THAT COMES THAT BRINGS A CHILD, THERE'S A COST TO OUR TAXPAYERS FOR THAT. 
          AND SO WE WISH THE OTHER SIX MUNICIPALITIES, 'CAUSE WE GET TO WORK WITH SEVEN OF THEM, WE WISH ALL OF THEM UNDERSTOOD WHAT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH MEANT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. 
          AND WE HOPE AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE PUSH FOR MORE HOUSING IN CENTRAL OHIO, WE KNOW THAT INTEL HAS CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE THAT COLUMBUS BECOMING THE SILICON VALLEY OF THE MIDWEST HAS CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANNA MOVE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE ECONOMIC RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE DO AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SO THE BOARD FOR THE FIRST TIME HAS PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THE LEVY IS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IF A LEVY IS REJECTED BY THE VOTERS. 
          IF THE LEVY IS 
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APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, WE WILL MAINTAIN A POSITIVE CASH BALANCE THROUGH AT LEAST FISCAL YEAR 27. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THIS LEVY LAST NOT THREE YEARS, BUT FOUR. 
          WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENTS, CLASS SIZES, AND CLASS OFFERINGS, AND WE WILL ONLY HAVE TARGETED REDISTRICTING. 
          THAT TARGETED REDISTRICTING WOULD BE NECESSARY 'CAUSE WE WOULD BUILD ELEMENTARY 15 ON THE FORMER RIVIERA GOLF PROPERTY BEHIND THE JEROME HIGH SCHOOL VISITOR BLEACHERS. 
          WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE CITY'S WORK IN PLANNING AND ZONING AS WE PREPARE THAT SITE AND MOVE A WATER RETENTION POND SO THAT WE ARE READY TO PUT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE. 
          IF THE VOTERS GIVE US PERMISSION AND APPROVE THIS ON NOVEMBER 7TH, THAT BUILDING WILL OPEN IN AUGUST OF 2025, AND THE REDISTRICTING WILL BE LIMITED TO DEPP, GLACIER RIDGE, DEER RUN, AND PENNY WITH THE NEW BUILDING AS WE REDISTRIBUTE THE STUDENTS UP IN THAT AREA, IF APPROVED. 
          IT WILL ALSO PUT AN ADDITION ON OUR PRESCHOOL. 
          WE ARE MANDATED BY LAW TO PROVIDE PRESCHOOL SERVICES TO SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS WHO ARE THREE AND FOUR YEARS OLD. 
          WE ARE RUNNING OUTTA SPACE AND WILL BE OUT OF SPACE IN THAT PRESCHOOL IN 2025. 
          IT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO DO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AT 14 OF OUR EXISTING BUILDINGS. 
          WE HAVE BUILDINGS LIKE SCIOTO HIGH SCHOOL THAT IS APPROACHING ITS 30TH ANNIVERSARY THAT NEEDS A NEW ROOF, THAT NEEDS A NEW ELEVATOR, THAT NEEDS NEW PARKING LOTS. 
          ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF YOUR HOUSE GOT TO BE 30 YEARS OLD, YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. 
          WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ON A GRANDER SCALE. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT A SCHOOL DISTRICT THIS SIZE ON OUR WEBSITE, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE, THIS IS A LITTLE SMALL HERE, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE PART OF THAT $145 MILLION BOND REQUEST. 
          WE WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT WHEN ABRAHAM DEPP AND HOPEWELL ELEMENTARY WERE BUILT, THE COST WAS $285 PER SQUARE FOOT. 
          OUR ESTIMATE FOR THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS $515 PER SQUARE FOOT, AND THAT GOES UP EVERY DAY. 
          SO THE SOONER WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO MARKET AND GET OUR BIDS OUT, THE BETTER WE'RE GONNA BE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN WE DO. 
          UH, IT'S HARDER TO FIND CONSTRUCTION FOLKS TO EVEN BID ON SOME OF OUR PROJECTS NOW, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT INTO THE MARKET. 
          IF THE LEVY IS REJECTED, WE HAVE TO CUT $45 MILLION FOR OUR BUDGET SO THAT WE DON'T GO INTO THE RED. 
          IN FISCAL YEAR 26, THE BOARD HAS ALREADY SAID, IF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN NOVEMBER OF 23, WE'LL BE BACK ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER OF 24. 
          THIS $45 MILLION IN REDUCTIONS ONLY BUYS US ONE MORE YEAR OF SOLVENCY. 
          $45 MILLION IN CUTS EQUATES TO ABOUT 200 POSITIONS. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING ADMINS, INTERNS, DEANS OF STUDENTS, FIELD TRIPS PAY TO PLAY. 
          WE WOULD ALSO BILL TWO TEN TWO HOUR DELAYS INTO OUR SCHEDULE TO GIVE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO TEACHERS. 
          BUT WHERE THE REAL MEAT OF THE REDUCTIONS HAS TO BE IS IN STAFF BEING 85% SALARY AND BENEFITS. 
          THE ONLY WAY TO CUT THIS TYPE OF MONEY IS TO CUT PEOPLE. 
          RIGHT NOW, OUR ELEMENTARY CLASS SIZES ARE 24 IN GRADES, FIRST IN KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE, 26 AND SECOND AND THIRD GRADE, AND 28 AND THIRD AND FOURTH GRADE. 
          IF THE LEVY IS NOT SUCCESS, WE'LL WE'LL GO TO 28 STUDENTS IN K ONE AND 30 STUDENTS IN GRADES TWO THROUGH FIVE. 
          WE WILL ALSO GO TO 32 PLUS IN GRADES SIX THROUGH 12 AND HAVE NO SECTIONS OF LESS THAN 20. 
          BY INCREASING CLASS SIZES, IT MEETS BOTH OF OUR NEEDS. 
          IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE LESS STAFF SERVING THE SAME NUMBER OF STUDENTS, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY AT EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COULD HOUSE BETWEEN 60 AND A HUNDRED ADDITIONAL STUDENTS. 
          WE WOULD LITERALLY DOMINO STUDENTS FROM THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE DISTRICT DOWN TOWARDS THE SAN SOUTHEAST. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO LOWER THE ENROLLMENT AT DEPP GLACIER AND PENNY LOW ENOUGH SO THAT OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE HAD SPACE FOR THE STUDENTS WHO INEVITABLY WILL INEVITABLY ENROLL IN OUR SCHOOLS. 
          IT WOULD BE A MASSIVE REDISTRICTING THAT REDISTRICTING WOULD TAKE PLACE WITH THE HELP OF CROPPER AND ASSOCIATES. 
          CROPPER AND ASSOCIATES IS THE FIRM WHO HAS HELPED OLAND TANGIE OVER THE YEARS WITH THEIR REDISTRICTING PROJECTS. 
          WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM NEXT WEEK TO START GIVING THEM THE DATA SO THAT IN THE EVENT WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL, THEY'RE READY TO ROLL AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL. 
          IT WOULD MEAN WHEN WE ELIMINATE COURSES OF LESS THAN 20 STUDENTS, IT WOULD MEAN THAT OUR IB PROGRAM WOULDN'T BE SUSTAINABLE. 
          WE HAVE 52 AP COURSES THAT ARE LESS THAN 20 STUDENTS, AND IT WOULD CHANGE HOW WE OFFER FINE ARTS RELATED ARTS WORLD LANGUAGES AND SOME OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. PEOPLE SAY THAT YOU'RE THREATENING, IT'S A REALITY. 
          WE 
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HAVE TWO PROBLEMS. WE'RE GROWING 270 STUDENTS A YEAR, AND WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA MONEY IN FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          WE EITHER MUST INCREASE REVENUE OR REDUCE OUR EXPENSES. 
          I ALWAYS ASK HOW, WHEN DOES THIS STOP? WHEN DO YOU SEE THE END TO THIS? WELL, IF A LEVY PASSES, WE'LL BREAK GROUND IN EARLY WINTER AND WE'LL OPEN A NEW ELEMENTARY IN AUGUST OF 2025. 
          IN 25, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A COMMUNITY. 
          DO WE WANT THREE BIG HIGH SCHOOLS OR DO WE WANNA OPEN A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL? THE DISTRICT PURCHASED A HUNDRED ACRES ON THE CORNER OF INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY AND MITCHELL DEWITT. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S SOYBEANS, WHICH IS REALLY NICE. 
          UM, THE DISTRICT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROACTIVE. 
          WE OWN THE LAND THAT HOPEWELL SITS ON FOR 30 YEARS. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE THE LAND BEHIND RIVIERA IN CASE WE NEEDED IT. 
          BEING PROACTIVE ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT LAND. 
          IT COULD BE A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL, IT COULD BE A SIXTH MIDDLE SCHOOL AND 16TH ELEMENTARY. 
          THE COMMUNITY WILL BE PART OF THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS. 
          WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THREE LARGER HIGH SCHOOLS, WE COULD BUILD A FRESHMAN BUILDING ON EACH CAMPUS. 
          LAKOTA IS A DISTRICT ABOUT OUR SIZE. 
          THEY HAVE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS WITH FRESHMAN BUILDINGS. 
          WE COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD A MATH AND SCIENCE BUILDING AND OPERATE LIKE A SMALL UNIVERSITY AT ALL THREE CAMPUSES. 
          AS WE LOOK AT WHAT WE DO, WE HAVE THE OPTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          OUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS, IF WE LOOK AT MODERATE ENROLLMENT, HAVE US TOPPING OUT IN THE MID 2030S. 
          IF I LOOK AT THE HIGH ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS, THAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT. 
          AND PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THINGS. 
          IF I HAD TOLD YOU 10 YEARS AGO THAT ANDERSONS WOULD NOW BE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, YOU WOULD'VE TOLD ME NO WAY. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN UP AND DOWN SAWMILL. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE PUSH FOR HOUSING IN GREATER COLUMBUS. 
          WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SO AS WE LOOK AT OUR FUTURE, OUR GOAL IS TO ALWAYS HAVE OPTIONS, BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND BE ABLE TO PLAN AHEAD. 
          I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF YOU MAY HAVE. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH US TONIGHT. 
          QUESTIONS CHRIS? MINE'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION. 
          I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING WITH THE THIRD GRADE STUDENTS AT, UM, AT, UH, DEER RUN TODAY AND, AND JUST THE EXCEPTIONAL NATURE OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE. 
          AND, UM, BEING A DUBLIN HIGH SCHOOL GRAD MYSELF, IT'S CERTAINLY, I I UNDERSTAND I'VE UNDERSTOOD FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, THE, THE, UM, THE PAIN OF, PRESSURE OF GROWTH THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN. 
          UM, BUT THAT, THAT YOU'LL HONOR. 
          40, UM, 40 NATIONAL MERIT FINALISTS IN THIS ROOM TOMORROW, SPEAKS LOUDLY TO THE WORK THAT YOU DO, AND I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT BRINGS US TO THE CITIZEN COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. 
          SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. 
          LINDSAY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE? NO ONE HAS SIGNED IN. 
          GREAT. 
          ANYONE IN THE ROOM? OKAY. 
          A CONSENT 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA. 
          IS THERE A REQUEST BY ANYONE TO REMOVE ANY OF THE ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING? WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL MS. CRAM? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MS. VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          SECOND READING, PUBLIC ORDINANCE 
          [Ordinance 35-23]
ORDINANCE NUMBER 35 23, ADOPTING THE 2024 THROUGH 20 28 5 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          IN OUR STAFF REPORT TONIGHT IS DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, MATT STIFFLER. 
          MATT, GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, ORDINANCE 35 DASH 23. 
          UH, WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS WE'VE MADE TO THE ORDINANCE SINCE ITS FIRST HEARING AND WORK SESSION. 
          SO IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL CHANGES, UH, THE FUNDING FOR PRELIMINARY DESIGN WAS MOVED FROM THE C I P TO THE Q THREE SUPPLEMENTAL, BOTH OF WHICH ARE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT. 
          FUNDING FOR SPEED MANAGEMENT WAS INCREASED BY 20,000 IN 2024 TO ALLOW FOR THE ADDITIONAL, UH, DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS AND ROTATING DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGN PROGRAM. 
          THAT WAS A COMMENT AT OUR FIRST HEARING. 
          AND WE PROGRAMMED A MILLION DOLLARS IN DESIGN AND $15 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION FOR THE AMTRAK RAILWAY STATION IN THE FOURTH AND FIFTH YEAR OF THIS C I P. 
          THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT I BELIEVE WERE ADDRESSED 
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IN THE MEMO THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH THIS, UH, ORDINANCE. 
          IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTING THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT, UH, AND INCLUDING THAT THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WOULD MOVE FORWARD, UH, IN THE Q THREE SUPPLEMENTAL AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE REGARDING THE WATER AND SEWER EXTENSION PROGRAM AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE IN 2024. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I JUST HAD A COUPLE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SEWER STEP. 
          SO ON ATTACHMENT THREE THAT WE HAD, WHICH WAS THE SPREADSHEET UNDER THE NEW ENHANCEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, IT STILL HAD 400,000, UM, IN 2025. 
          IS THAT THE MONEY THAT GOT MOVED TO? IS THAT THIS THE RESOURCES AND PROJECT SPREADSHEET? I'M SORRY. 
          I DON'T, YES. 
          UH, C I P RESOURCES AND PROJECTS AMENDED. 
          IT WAS NUMBER THREE ON OUR, IN OUR BOARD PACK. 
          GREAT SPREADSHEET. 
          SO THE 400,000 WAS LISTED IN THE ADMINISTRATION SECTION. 
          THAT FIRST ORANGE LINE THAT'S NOW REMOVED, THERE'S NO 400,000 THERE. 
          AND THAT IS IN THE Q THREE SUPPLEMENTAL. 
          SO I'M LOOKING UNDER NEW ENHANCEMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE IT LISTS OUT THE SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION PROJECTS AND IT HAS AREA TWO A, TWO B THREE B AND IT STILL HAS 400,000 IN 2025. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT IS FOR THE DESIGN OF THOSE EXTENSIONS FOR THAT AREA. 
          WE LEFT IN DESIGN, WE TOOK OUT CONSTRUCTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING. 
          WE'RE GONNA DO PRELIMINARY DESIGN IN THE Q THREE SUPPLEMENTAL, BUT WE'LL STILL NEED FINAL DESIGN OKAY. 
          FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT. 
          SO THAT'S FINAL DESIGN. 
          WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FINAL DESIGN THEN FOR THE AREA THREE A AND THREE C, LIKE THAT'S COMPLETELY GONE FROM HERE. 
          WILL THAT, IS THAT ALREADY THAT'S IN THE PROCESS NOW. 
          SO IT'LL ALREADY BE DONE AND PAID FOR WITH THE MONEY WE MOVED FORWARD? YEAH. 
          THE, THE FUNDING FOR DESIGN OF THREE A AND THREE C UH, WAS ENCUMBERED IN DECEMBER OF 2022 FOR $400,000. 
          SO IT'S INCLUDED IN THE BOND ORDINANCE THAT WE'LL HEAR TONIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THE AMENDED. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, SO WE'RE FINALIZING THAT HERE. 
          SO WHEN IT COMES BEFORE PUBLIC SERVICES IN JANUARY, UM, WHAT WILL BE, I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING, ARE WE GONNA THEN HAVE ALL OF THE ENGINEERING DONE IN 2024 SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION IN 2024? YES. 
          SO GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          I'M MICHAEL HENDERSHOTT, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND UTILITIES. 
          SO YES, WE WOULD HAVE THAT FINAL ENGINEERING FINISHED IN 2024. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AT IN JANUARY OF 21, 24, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US AT PUBLIC SERVICES, WE WILL, ARE WE GONNA HAVE SOME OF THE ENGINEERING, AT LEAST THE ENGINEERING DONE FOR THREE A AND THREE C SO WE CAN DECIDE THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S MORE COMPLICATED WITH THE LIFT STATIONS AND CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL HAVE BETTER CLARITY ON WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IS AND THE ASSOCIATED FUNDING FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND WE'RE WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WORK AS THAT WILL INFORM OBVIOUSLY THE DETAILED DESIGN WORK AND WE WERE BUT FOR THE OTHER SECTIONS. 
          BUT THE FINAL DESIGN IS IN THE WORKS. 
          THREE C IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          IS IN THE WORKS. 
          THAT'S US. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT LEAVING, UM, THE FUNDING FOR DETAILED DESIGN FOR THE EXTENSIONS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROGRAMMED SO THAT WE COULD KEEP THOSE MOVING FORWARD WHILE WE CONTINUE, UM, IDENTIFYING THE SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS FOR EACH OF THE EXTENSIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO JUST FOR CLARITY, SO BY THE END OF 27, ALL SEWER PROJECTS IN THE CITY WILL HAVE BEEN DESIGNED OR WILL THERE BE SOME OUTSTANDING STILL THERE WILL STILL BE OUTSTANDING PROJECTS AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN THE ANNUAL REPORT, UM, FROM A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UM, WHERE WE HAD AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT CALLED FOR WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AS PART OF THE 2024 TO 2028, UM, REQUESTED. 
          C I P THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE SHOWN BEYOND THE 2028 C I P. 
          SO THE INTENTION OF THE $400,000 FOR PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING IS REALLY TO, TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THOSE ALIGNMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE HAD DESIGN, WHICH WAS REALLY MORE CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE AS WE FOUND OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS AREA THREE A THREE C, WHEN WE GOT INTO MORE DESIGN, THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN THAT WE HAD BEFORE JUST WASN'T GONNA WORK. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT COST INCREASES IN THE CASE OF THE THREE A THREE C AREA. 
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OKAY. 
          SO DO WE HA DO WE HAVE A TARGET ON WHEN ALL OF THE ENGINEERING ON THESE MIGHT, I MEAN, I REALIZE THAT IT'S GONNA BE PUSHED BACK PAST 28, BUT DO WE, DO WE HAVE A GOAL IN MIND OF WHEN ALL OF THAT WOULD BE COMPLETE? THE DESIGN PER PORTION? YES. 
          I BELIEVE WE HAVE 20 YEARS, I THINK 2035 IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, IS FINISHING UP THOSE PROJECTS. 
          AND HOW ABOUT THE WATER SIDE? SO THAT, THAT'S THE SEWER SIDE AND HOW ABOUT IT'S THE SAME? YEAH, THEY'LL BE WE OUT THE SAME. 
          THEY'LL BE DESIGNING THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SO I WOULD JUST NOTE ON THE, UM, REQUEST TO, TO HAVE THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE TALK ON THIS, IT, IT IS CURRENTLY STILL AT THE PUBLIC SERVICES, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IT THERE. 
          IT'LL, IT'LL JUST CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL RULE MR. REINER? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. CRAM? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MATT. 
          ORDINANCE 
          [Ordinance 36-23]
36 23 AMENDING THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31. 
          2023. 
          MATT, THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS THE Q THREE SUPPLEMENTAL. 
          IT IS UNCHANGED FROM ITS FIRST HEARING AND STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION AT TONIGHT'S COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          OUR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          GREAT. 
          LINDSAY, ANY COMMENT THIS EVENING? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. 
          JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL RULE MS. AROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MS. CRA? YES. 
          THANK YOU MATT. 
          YOU'RE GONNA STAY THERE THOUGH. 
          SO, 
          [Ordinance 37-23]
INTRODUCTIONS FIRST, READING ORDINANCE 37 23 PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF BONDS AND THE MAXIMUM AGGREGATE PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COSTS OF IMPROVING THE MUNICIPAL SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM BY EXTENDING CERTAIN SEWER LINES, REPAIRING AND LINING CERTAIN EXISTING SEWER LINES, REDUCING INFLOW AND INFILTRATION AND INSTALLING NEW SEWER LINES. 
          NEW FORCE MEANS A LIFT STATION AND PUMP STATION TOGETHER WITH ALL INCIDENTAL WORK AND RELATED TO APPEARANCES THERE TOO. 
          I'LL REDUCE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THAT TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, THANK YOU. 
          SO THESE ORDINANCES, THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE ORDINANCES TONIGHT AS EACH BOND ORDINANCE THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH A REP, A SEPARATE REVENUE SOURCE NEEDS A SEPARATE ORDINANCE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE THREE. 
          I'LL HANDLE SOME GENERAL INFORMATION THAT APPLIES TO EACH OF THE THREE ORDINANCES AND THEN PROVIDE SOME DETAILS ON THE SEWER, WATER, AND TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. 
          SO IN TERMS OF THE FINANCING TEAM, THIS IS THE SAME FINANCING TEAM THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          THE CITY IS WORKING WITH BAKER TILLY AS OUR MUNICIPAL ADVISOR AND SQUIRE PATENT BOGGS AS OUR BOND COUNCIL WITH THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PROVIDED THESE SERVICES, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. 
          WE EXPECT TO ISSUE, UH, BONDS TOTALING JUST UNDER $12.2 MILLION FOR THE FOLLOWING GENERAL PURPOSES. 
          $1 MILLION IN SEWER PROJECTS, JUST UNDER $200,000 IN WATER FUNDED PROJECTS AND $11 MILLION FOR THE TELLER ROAD TO EMERALD PARKWAY CROSSING OVER TWO 70. 
          IN TERMS OF DEBT METRICS, WE'RE, UH, ASKED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON OUR DEBT METRICS EVERY TIME WE ISSUE DEBT. 
          DEBT METRIC ONE IS A CLEAR YES, AS HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR OUR PREVIOUS DEBT ISSUANCES METRIC TWO IS ALSO A YES. 
          METRIC THREE IS AN INTERESTING METRIC AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE HAD NO, BUT THOSE NOS ARE EXPLAINED IN THE COMMENTS BELOW THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN FOR NON-RECURRING EXPENDITURES. 
          WE'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN LAND ACQUISITION, ET CETERA. 
          SO DEBT METRIC THREE INDICATES THAT WE ARE MEETING THAT GUIDELINE. 
          AND DEBT METRIC FOUR ALSO INDICATES THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO STAY BELOW THE 10% OPERATING REVENUE IN THAT METRIC RANGING FROM 6.7 TO 8.8 MILLION OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD. 
          SO OUR DEBT METRICS, UH, INDICATE THAT WE ARE, UM, CAPABLE OF ISSUING THIS DEBT. 
          IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, HOLD, WE'VE ALREADY HELD SOME MEETINGS ON ORGANIZATION AND WORKING GROUP. 
          WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST HEARING TONIGHT WITH A SECOND READING ON THE NINTH. 
          WITH THOSE, WE EXPECT TO, UH, MOVE TOWARDS, UH, RATING MEETINGS WITH MOODY'S TOWARDS THE END OF OCTOBER. 
          WE WILL BE MEETING WITH ALL THREE RATING AGENCIES DURING THAT TIMEFRAME. 
          UH, WE EXPECT THE PRELIMINARY OFFERING STATEMENT TO BE COMPLETED ON NOVEMBER 11TH WITH PRICING TO OCCUR MID-NOVEMBER. 
          IT'S ON HERE AS, UH, 1116. 
          WE EXPECT TO CLOSE IN EARLY DECEMBER, WHICH IS A GOOD TIME TO CLOSE. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPAY THESE ADVANCES BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY ADVANCES THAT CROSS YEARS, WHICH IS, UH, GOOD FOR OUR FUND BALANCE AND REPORTING AND, UM, END OF THE YEAR STATEMENTS. 
          IN 
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TERMS OF THIS ORDINANCE, THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN PROVIDES FOR UP TO $1 MILLION IN, UH, ISSUANCES. 
          600,000 OF THAT IS FOR THE DEER RUN SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. 
          IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE GLICK ROAD RELIEF SEWER. 
          THOSE WOULD BE DESIGN FUNDS. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, THERE'S THE 400,000 FOR THE SANITARY SEWER FOR FINAL DESIGN FOR THREE A AND THREE C. 
          THIS DEBT WILL BE REPAID FROM SEWER FUNDS, EITHER DIRECTLY IN THE CASE OF THE GLICK ROAD OR TRANSFERRED FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND IN THE CASE OF THE EXTENSION PROGRAM. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND STAFF RECOMMEND, UH, APPROVAL AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          LINDSAY, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. 
          UM, COUNCIL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAD, UM, DO WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF ESTIMATE WHAT FINANCING COSTS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ON THESE DOLLARS AT THIS POINT? WE DO. 
          UM, I'LL PROVIDE THAT AT THE SECOND HEARING. 
          I KNOW I SAW IT, I THINK IT WAS 3.7, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WE PAID IN 2019. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE PAID IN THE THREES BEFORE IN THE, IN TERMS OF TRUE INTEREST COSTS. 
          BUT I DID ASK FOR A, AN ESTIMATE ON THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. 
          UM, NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL HAVE SECOND READING. 
          OH, CHRIS, DID YOU, I'M SORRY, I JUST, IF WE WERE TO CASH FUND ANY OF THESE, HOW FAR OUT OF OUR, UH, POLICY WOULD WE BE FOR OUR RESERVES AND THINGS? JUST ONLY, I THINK IT JUST WARRANTS A BIT OF A CONVERSATION BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MAKING A WHOLE LOT ON THE CASH THAT WE HAVE ON HAND. 
          AND, UM, JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          SURE. 
          I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF THE SEWER FUND, WE HAVE ABOUT $7 MILLION IN THAT FUND BALANCE. 
          IT WOULD, WE COULD CASH FUND A MILLION OUT OF 7 MILLION. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE COULD CASH FUND, UM, SOME MORE. 
          IT TENDS TO GROW ANNUALLY, SO WE'RE NOT RUNNING A DEFICIT, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          IT JUST BECOMES A QUESTION OF WILL WE EVER BE ABLE TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTIONS TO BRING US TOWARDS COMPLIANCE? SO POLICY COMPLIANCE WOULD BE ABOUT 25% OF THE SYSTEM'S VALUE, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT $16 MILLION. 
          AT THIS POINT. 
          WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN COMPLIANCE IN THE SEWER FUND. 
          THE FUND BALANCE IS SLOWLY GROWING, WHICH IS TO ME A POSITIVE SIGN. 
          I DON'T WANT IT TO QUICKLY GROW BECAUSE THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO ADJUST RATES AND THAT'S NOT FAIR TO RATE PAYERS. 
          UM, THE CONCERN WOULD BE THAT OVER TIME WE MIGHT FACE OTHER EXPENDITURES THAT ARE UNKNOWN THAT WE WOULD WANT TO UTILIZE CASH FOR, OR THAT WE WOULD WANT TO BUILD MORE OF A BUFFER THAN $7 MILLION TOWARDS. 
          SO I THINK DEBT FUNDING THIS TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE THESE ARE LONG IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A FUND THAT HAS A RELATIVELY LARGE FUND BALANCE IN TERMS OF COMPARED TO ITS REVENUE. 
          SO IT HAS A $7 MILLION FUND BALANCE AND ABOUT $3 MILLION IN REVENUES, WHICH IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH HAS A HUNDRED MILLION IN INCOME TAX AND ABOUT 70 MILLION IN THE FUND BALANCE. 
          SO IT'S NOT EASY TO RAISE THIS FUND BALANCE. 
          SO IF YOU LOWERED IT BY A MILLION DOLLARS, YOU MIGHT LOWER IT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE GONNA TAKE 10 YEARS TO RECOVER OR MORE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANTED TO HEAD. 
          I CERTAINLY WOULD AGREE, AND I ONLY POSE THE QUESTION BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF MONEY RIGHT NOW, AND IF WE COULD CASH FUND IT INTO A BOND SALE AT A LATER DATE AND PAY OURSELVES BACK WHEN PERHAPS, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THE MARKET MIGHT BE MORE IN OUR FAVOR. 
          BUT I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU AND I THAT IS VERY WISE COUNSEL. 
          I, I JUST AM A LITTLE HESITANT ON THE TIMING, YOU KNOW, BUT WHO KNOWS? THE COST OF MONEY CAN GO UP AS EASILY AS IT CAN GO DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE, SORRY. 
          WE WILL ISSUE THESE WITH A 10 YEAR CALL AS WE ISSUE ALL OUR DEBTS. 
          SO IF, IF SOMETHING GOOD SHOULD HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING BACK SECOND READING ON THIS IS OCTOBER THE NINTH, 
          [Ordinance 38-23]
UM, ORDINANCE 38 23, PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF BONDS AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $195,000 FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE MUNICIPAL WATER WORK SYSTEM BY UPGRADING AND REPLACING CERTAIN EXISTING WATER LINES AND INSTALLING WATERLINE EXTENSIONS TOGETHER WITH ALL INCIDENTAL WORK AND RELATED APPEARANCES THERE TOO. 
          UH, THANK YOU MATT. 
          SO THIS BOND ISSUANCE IS FOR A LITTLE UNDER $200,000. 
          IT'S $115,000 FOR DESIGN OF WATERLINE EXTENSIONS. 
          $80,000 FOR DESIGN OF WATERLINE REPLACEMENT. 
          AGAIN, THOSE WATERLINE EXTENSIONS ARE IN THREE A AND THREE C WATER, UH, FUND REVENUES WILL BE USED TO REPAY THE WATERLINE REPLACEMENT, UH, DEBT SERVICE, WHEREAS THE WATERLINE EXTENSIONS WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH A TRANSFER FROM THE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND. 
          STAFF RECOMMEND ADOPTION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AND TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT 
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WHY WE WOULD, UH, DEBT FINANCE THIS KIND OF SMALLER AMOUNT. 
          WE, WE DO HAVE A WATER FUND REVENUE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTREME THAN THE SEWER FUND, EVEN ANNUAL REVENUES. 
          THERE ABOUT A MILLION, A MILLION AND A HALF INTO A FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 12 MILLION. 
          SO FOR THE FUND BALANCE TO GO UP 200,000 ACTUALLY TAKES A SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THE FUND BALANCE HAS BEEN RELATIVELY FLAT FOR MY FIVE YEARS HERE. 
          SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A FUND BALANCE OF 16 MILLION, IT'S BETTER TO DEBT FINANCE, THESE TYPES OF SUMS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SMALL PAYMENTS OVER 20 YEARS THAT WE CAN SLOWLY INCREASE THAT MILLION DOLLAR REVENUE, UH, ANNUALLY IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT REVENUES ARE WELL MATCHED WITH EXPENDITURES. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT HERE? COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU FOR MATT. 
          UH, FOR THAT MATT, WE WILL HEAR THAT BACK ON OCTOBER THE NINTH 
          [Ordinance 39-23]
ORDINANCE 39 23, PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF BONDS IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $11 MILLION FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF ACQUIRING AND PREPARING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY IN CONNECTION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A BRIDGE CROSSING OVER I TWO 70 TOGETHER WITH ALL INCIDENTAL WORK AND RELATED TO APPEARANCES THERE TOO. 
          THANK YOU, MATT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THIS, UH, BOND ISSUANCE WILL BE FOR UP TO $11 MILLION FOR THE ACQUISITION OF LAND ASSOCIATED WITH THE BRIDGE OVER TWO 70. 
          THE TOTAL ACQUISITION AND DEMOLITION COST FOR THAT PROPERTY IS ABOUT $11.5 MILLION. 
          WE WILL UTILIZE A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN GENERAL FUND REVENUE AS WAS JUST APPROVED IN THE Q THREE SUPPLEMENTAL IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THE LAND. 
          THAT WILL BECOME THE REMNANT WHEN WE, UH, COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION ON THAT PARCEL SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEBT FINANCING SOMETHING THAT OUGHT NOT BE DEBT FINANCED AND GETTING IN TROUBLE FOR USING TAX-EXEMPT BONDS FOR POTENTIALLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. 
          SO THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COMPLICATED TRANSACTION THAN, UM, THE TYPICAL DEBT FINANCING THAT YOU MIGHT SEE. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF THIS, WE WILL, UH, REPAY THE ADVANCE THAT WE, UH, WILL UTILIZE FROM THE GENERAL FUND WHEN WE DO ACQUIRE THAT LAND. 
          THAT REPAYMENT WILL OCCUR IN EARLY DECEMBER WHEN THE FUNDING IS RECEIVED. 
          HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT, NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES. 
          MATT WOULD, OH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THERE BEING SOME RESIDUAL LAND AFTER THIS. 
          THE REVENUE FROM THAT RESIDUAL LAND, WOULD THAT BE APPLICABLE TO THIS TRANSACTION OR NOT? YEAH, THE REVENUE FROM THAT COULD GO BACK, UH, WOULD GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE UTILIZING THAT FUND. 
          SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO SELL THAT REMNANT, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING WOULD BE DEPOSITED. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL LOOK BACK HERE. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOU BACK ON OCTOBER THE NINTH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          INTRODUCTION, 
          [Resolution 64-23]
PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION 64 23 ACCEPTING THE AMOUNTS AND RATES IS DETERMINED BY THE BUDGET COMMISSION AND AUTHORIZING THE NECESSARY TAX LEVIES AND CERTIFYING THEM TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, MATT, TO YOU  ONCE AGAIN. 
          SO THIS RESOLUTION IS AN ANNUAL HOUSEKEEPING RESOLUTION, ADMINISTRATIVE RESOLUTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE IN ORDER TO SIGNAL TO THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION THAT WE AGREE WITH THE LEVIES THAT THEY WILL, UH, PLACE ON OUR PROPERTIES IN DUBLIN IN THE NEXT TAX YEAR. 
          IN TERMS OF JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHAT PROPERTY TAXES ARE, UH, A MILL REPRESENTS THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX PAID ON REAL ESTATE. 
          ONE MILL IS EQUAL TO $1 IN PROPERTY TAX LEVIED PER THOUSAND DOLLARS OF A PROPERTY'S ASSESSED VALUE. 
          THE CA, THE FORMULA FOR CALCULATING ESTIMATED PROPERTY TAX IS PROVIDED ON THAT SLIDE, AS IS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT RESIDENTIAL TAX RATES. 
          ANYBODY THAT HAS, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT PROPERTY TAX, I ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S WEBSITE AND READ OUR UNDERSTANDING YOUR TAXES GUIDE. 
          IT'S, UH, A VERY GOOD PUBLICATION THAT EXPLAINS PROPERTY TAXES, INCOME TAXES, AND WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE UTILIZED, UM, ACROSS DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT SERVE THE CITIES OF DUBLIN. 
          IN TERMS OF THIS, UH, RESOLUTION, THIS RESOLUTION IS PURELY ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. 
          IT DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE COLLECTION OR CREATION OF ANY ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAXES. 
          IT ALLOCATES EXISTING PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE PARTY PART OF THE CITY'S INSIDE MILLAGE AND RESTATES THE CITY'S AGREEMENT THAT THE CORRECT OUTSIDE MILLAGE BASED ON, UH, PREVIOUSLY VOTER APPROVED LEVIES IS CORRECT TO THE FRANKLIN COUNTY. 
          YOU CAN SEE INSIDE MILLAGES UN VOTED OUTSIDE MILLAGES VOTED. 
          THAT'S THE PREDOMINANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          INSIDE MILLAGE DOES NOT CHANGE. 
          SO 1.75 MILLS, WHICH IS OUR INSIDE MILLAGE STAYS 1.75 MILLS IN PERPETUITY. 
          UM, 
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OUTSIDE MILLAGE IS REDUCED BY A REDUCTION FACTOR IN ORDER TO MAKE UP FOR INCREASES IN PROPERTY VALUE SO THAT EVERY OUTSIDE MILL, WHATEVER AMOUNT THAT THAT WAS APPROVED TO EARN AT THE FIRST UH, LEVYING OF THAT TAX IS ALL THAT WILL EVER BE EARNED. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS PROPERTY TAX REVENUES TEND TO BE FLAT OVER TIME. 
          IN TERMS OF HISTORY, UH, INSIDE MILLAGE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1933 WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS CHANGED. 
          IT WAS REDUCED FROM 1.5, UH, PERCENT OR 15 MILS TO THE 10 MIL LIMIT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          ALL POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS RECEIVED TWO THIRDS OF WHAT THEY RECEIVED FROM 29 TO 33 PERMANENTLY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY OUR INSIDE MIL OF 1.75 IS WHAT IT IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE. 
          SO INSIDE MILLAGE IS SHARED BETWEEN POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE PART OF, UH, A TAXING DISTRICT. 
          SO THE COUNTY, CITY, TOWNSHIP AND SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE CITY'S OUTSIDE MILLAGE WAS APPROVED AS A PROPERTY TAX LEVY DEDICATED TO POLICE SERVICES IN 1976. 
          THE EFFECTIVE RATE OF THAT LEVY IN 1976 WAS 1.2 MILLS, BUT IT IS NOW 0.159 IN CHANGE MILLS FOR RESIDENTIAL TAXPAYERS. 
          IT PROVIDES ABOUT $500,000 A YEAR AND WILL BE FLAT AT ABOUT THAT AMOUNT, UM, IN PERPETUITY. 
          IN TERMS OF THE ALLOCATION, SINCE 2010, UH, COUNCIL HAS ALLOCATED 0.35 MILLS INSIDE MILLAGE TO THE PARKLAND ACQUISITION FUND AND 1.4 MILLS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND. 
          OUTSIDE MILLAGE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AGAIN IN 1976. 
          IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO REALLOCATION. 
          IT'S REQUIRED TO BE DEPOSITED INTO THE SAFETY FUND AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S DEPOSITED. 
          SO STAFF RECOMMEND, UH, ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT UNDER ORDINANCE, UH, O R C 57, 0 5 POINT 34, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. 
          MATT? I WANT, UH, SAY THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE INSIDE, OUTSIDE AND UPSIDE, WHATEVER MILLAGE. 
          UM, I I, IT IS COMPLEX TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          AND THERE'S SO MUCH CONVERSATION GOING ON NOW ABOUT RATES AND CHANGES. 
          I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, I, I FOUND VERY USEFUL. 
          SO JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, SO THE INSIDE MILLAGE, THE RATE DOESN'T CHANGE, BUT IT WOULD MOVE ALONG WITH THE, UH, ASSESSED VALUE OF, OF THE PROPERTY OR NO? SO INSIDE MILLAGE, UH, THE 1.75% STAYS FLAT. 
          SO YOU'LL ALWAYS EARN $1 AND 75 CENTS FOR EVERY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ASSESSED VALUE. 
          THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THAT IT DOES ACTUALLY INCREASE WITH PROPERTY VALUES. 
          THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE. 
          SO WHEN THE AUDITOR SAYS THAT PROPERTY VALUES IN FRANKLIN COUNTY ARE INCREASING BY AN AVERAGE OF 20 TO 40%, THE INSIDE MILLAGE WILL SEE THAT INCREASE. 
          THE OUTSIDE MILLAGE WILL BE REDUCED AND WILL NOT SEE AN INCREASE. 
          SO YOU'LL GET INSIDE MILLAGE INCREASES BY THE PROPERTY'S VALUE OUTSIDE MILLAGE STAYS FLAT, WHICH IS WHY PROPERTY VALUES PROPERTY TAXES WILL INCREASE SLIGHTLY, BUT NOT BY THAT 20% INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUATION. 
          AND THAT'S THE HARD PART THAT'S DIFFICULT TO COMMUNICATE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING COMPONENTS, MATT, SO THERE'S NO CAP ON WHAT WE CAN COLLECT. 
          SO WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCHOOLS TODAY, AND SO THEY'RE CAPPED. 
          SO THEIR, THEIR MILLAGE, THEY DON'T GET AN INCREASED REVENUE AS VALUATIONS INCREASE, BUT WE, WE DO ENJOY THAT LUXURY. 
          THEY ONLY GET AN INCREASED VALUE ON THEIR INSIDE MILLAGE, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY SMALL COMPONENT OF THEIR OVERALL MILLAGE. 
          SO FOR ALL INTENSIVE PURPOSES, THE ANSWER IS NO. 
          THEY DO NOT SEE A BENEFIT OF THAT INCREASED PROPERTY VALUATION WHERE OURS IS KIND OF THE EXACT OPPOSITE. 
          WE HAVE 1.75 MILLS OF INSIDE. 
          WE ARE ABLE TO ENJOY THE INFLATIONARY INCREASES TO THAT MILLAGE. 
          OUR OUTSIDE MILLAGE WAS 1.2 BACK IN THE SEVENTIES. 
          IT'S NOW BELOW 0.2. 
          IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT'S DEDICATED TO OUR POLICE SOURCE, UH, POLICE, UH, FORCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MATT. 
          I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL AND, AND JERMAINE TO THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT. 
          SO, GREAT. 
          UM, SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL RULE MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MS. CRAM? YES. 
          MS. SAM ROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          GREAT RESOLUTION 
          [Resolution 65-23]
65 23 ACCEPTANCE OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR THIS RE SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE BANK DUBLIN PLATT, LOCATED WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT. 
          I THANK YOU. 
          AND OUR REPORT TONIGHT IS FROM OUR PLANNER, UM, TAYLOR MILLAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST FOR ACCEPTANCE OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR THE REESE SUBDIVISION OF THE 
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STATE BANK DUBLIN PLATT. 
          THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWS AND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLATTS TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE PURPOSE OF PLATTS IS TO SUBDIVIDE LAND TO IDENTIFY PROPERTY LINES, ESTABLISH EASEMENTS, DEDICATE OPEN SPACE, AND CREATE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY. 
          THE SITE HAS NO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. 
          HOWEVER, ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT CODE AND THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          IN THE INTERIM, THE APPLICANT RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM IN JUNE TO DEMOLISH THE TWO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON SITE. 
          THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTHWEST OF WEST DUBLIN, GRANDVILLE ROAD AND DAVID ROAD AND IS ZOD BRAID STREET DISTRICT OFFICE. 
          THE STATE BANK IS ON THE LOT FURTHEST TO THE WEST, AND THEN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS TO BE DEMOLISHED ARE ON THE LOTS TO THE EAST OF STATE BANK. 
          THE PREVIOUS PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLATS WERE ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2014. 
          THE, UH, APPROVED FINAL PLAT HERE IS SHOWN THIS EVENING'S PRELIMINARY PLATT REQUEST IS FOR THE RE SUBDIVISION OF THREE EXISTING LOTS INTO TWO NEW LOTS. 
          THE PLATT INCLUDES, EXCUSE ME, THE DEDICATION OF FIVE ACCESS EASEMENTS AND VACATION OF TWO EXISTING EASEMENTS. 
          TWO RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ADDRESS THE TIMING OF PLATT RECORDATION AND DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING HOMES, AS WELL AS, UM, THAT FUTURE DEVELOPERS CONSTRUCT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BETWEEN THE LOTS. 
          IN APRIL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH FOUR CONDITIONS OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          TWO OF THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE SINCE BEEN MET AND STAFF RECOMMENDS ACCEPTANCE OF RESOLUTION 65 23 FOR PRELIMINARY PLATT WITH TWO CONDITIONS. 
          WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN THE APPLICANT'S IN ATTENDANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAD TROY KAMAL GORE SIGN IN AND I BELIEVE HE WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. , HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          COUNSEL. 
          QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I JUST, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ACCESS TO THE PARCELS. 
          SO CURRENTLY, UM, THERE'S A CURB CUT FOR THE EAST PROPERTY. 
          UM, IS THAT BE GONNA BE COMPLETELY ELIMINATED AND NOT ALLOWED THEN TO HAVE A SO PRIMARY ACCESS WILL BE OBTAINED, UM, FROM BANKER DRIVE TO THE NORTH OF THE LOTS? YEAH. 
          AND THEN THE EXISTING, UM, DRIVEWAY WILL REMAIN FOR NOW AND WILL BE RECONSIDERED WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WHEN THAT COMES ALONG. 
          SO THERE IS POTENTIAL THAT THEY COULD HAVE ACCESS? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THERE'S NO ACCESS ON 1 61, BUT THAT SIDE STREET, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED, DAVID ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT ONE THEY CAN POTENTIALLY HAVE ACCESS? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE MY CONCERN IS THE SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT AT THE VERY TOP, THE TURNING RADIUS. 
          DID THEY DO A, LIKE A TURNING RADIUS STUDY TO SEE CAN THEY ACTUALLY GET INTO THAT PARCEL FROM THE NORTHWEST CORNER THERE? ENGINEERING DID TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND HAS NO CONCERNS AT THIS. 
          THIS TIME THERE'S NO CONCERNS THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET INTO THE SITE. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL MR. KEELER? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MS. ARO GROOMS? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MS. CRAM? YES. 
          GREAT 
          [Resolution 66-23]
RESOLUTION 66 23 ACCEPTANCE OF A FINAL PLATT FOR THE RE RE SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE BANK DUBLIN PLAT LOCATED WITHIN THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT HONOR. 
          DO SO THANK YOU TAYLOR TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          AND, UM, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR ACCEPTANCE OF A FINAL PLATT FOR THE RE SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE BANK DUBLIN PLATT. 
          OOPS, SORRY, ONE SECOND. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          SORRY. 
          . 
          IN THE PRELIMINARY, UM, PLATT PRESENTATION, I DESCRIBED THE PURPOSE AND PROCESS FOR PLATTS AND THAT NODE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED FOR THE SITE AS THIS TIME. 
          AND JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER, ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          THE MAP, UM, AS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN, UM, SHOWS THE SITE LOCATED, UH, NORTHWEST OF WEST DUBLIN, GRANDVILLE ROAD AND DAVID ROAD. 
          THE FINAL PLATT REQUEST IS FOR THE RE SUBDIVISION OF THREE EXISTING LOTS INTO TWO NEW LOTS AND INCLUDES THE DEDICATION OF FIVE 
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ACCESS EASEMENTS AND VACATION OF TWO, UH, EXISTING EASEMENTS. 
          IN APRIL, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH FOUR CONDITIONS OF THE FINAL PLATT TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF RECOMMENDS ACCEPTANCE OF RESOLUTION, UH, 65 23 FOR A FINAL PLAT WITH TWO CONDITIONS. 
          AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. 
          GREAT COUNSEL. 
          AND THIS DID INCLUDE, UH, DEMOLITION OF THESE EXISTING STRUCTURES WITHIN ONE YEAR OF, UH, I GUESS IT WOULD BE 30 DAYS FROM TONIGHT. 
          SO A YEAR AND 30 DAYS THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE EXISTING STRUCTURES? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THEY DID RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TEAM TO DEMOLISH THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO BEFORE, UM, RECORDING THE PLATS WITH THE COUNTY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OH, JENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE VICE MAYOR OSA? YES. 
          MS. CRAM? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          MS. A ROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU, TAYLOR. 
          THAT TAKES US 
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TO OTHER BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING. 
          UM, THE FIRST ITEM IN OTHER BUSINESS, UM, I THINK WE HAVE RECEIVED IN BOARD PACK PROPOSED COUNCIL AND WORK SESSION AND COMMITTEE MEETING DATES FOR, FOR YOUR, UM, REVIEW. 
          UM, WE WILL ADOPT PLAN TO ADOPT THOSE AT THE OCTOBER 9TH MEETING. 
          BUT, UM, HAPPY TO DISCUSS, UH, CHANGES OR ADDITIONS. 
          NO ADDITIONS CHANGES, UH, THAT WE MIGHT WANNA SEE TO THE SCHEDULE THIS EVENING. 
          EVENING, UH, THE FEBRUARY 20TH ONE IS, UH, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING PRESIDENT'S DAY. 
          UM, CERTAINLY LIKELY THAT I WILL MAKE THAT, BUT I TEND TO KEEP THAT WEEK OPEN FOR TRAVEL. 
          UM, NO PLANS AS OF NOW, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY DATE THAT I'M ON THE FENCE ABOUT. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY CHRIS? YEAH, I I HAVE ONE REQUEST, UH, RESPECTIVE TO THE FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING. 
          UM, CITY COUNCIL ON THE CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULE. 
          UM, AND I, I'M CURIOUS AS THERE WOULD BE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THAT TO A FEBRUARY 5TH DATE. 
          THE REASON BEING IS THE, UM, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL COUNCILS HAS OUR MEETING IN, UM, DC AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          UH, AND I STILL REMAIN VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE AMTRAK. 
          AND I SUSPECT IF WE ARE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE HAPPENING AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          AND I CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATION IN THE ROOM, UM, WHEN THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING. 
          SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT THE FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING BE RELOCATED TO FEBRUARY 5TH. 
          I'M FINE WITH THE FIFTH. 
          YEAH, SAME. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL HAVE JENNY WORK FEBRUARY. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE FUN MONTH. 
          FEBRUARY. 
          I KNOW YOU ASKED US A QUESTION BETWEEN BACK TO BACK IN SEPTEMBER OR THAT MEETING IN OCTOBER. 
          SO MY, I DON'T HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE, BUT I WOULD VOTE FOR THE 16TH, I THINK WAS YOUR FIRST OPTION WOULD BE MY CHOICE. 
          I'D AGREE. 
          THAT'S FINE WITH ME AS WELL. 
          GREAT. 
          THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE LAST YEAR WE MOVED, UM, OUR RETREAT WAS NORMALLY IN FEBRUARY AND FOR ALL THE REASONS WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, WE MOVE THAT TO APRIL AND THE MEMO SUGGESTS THAT WE KEEP THAT AT A LATER DATE. 
          IT, THAT SEEMED TO WORK WELL. 
          I THINK WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. 
          YES. 
          A LITTLE BIT LATER IS A BETTER ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FEEDBACK ON THAT. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF AS, OH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THERE IS A, UM, COUNCIL WORK SESSION SCHEDULED FOR THE 24TH. 
          UM, IF WE DO HAVE IT, I WILL NOT NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE. 
          AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. 
          WHAT MONTH WAS THAT, SORRY? UH, JUNE 24TH. 
          AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO FOUR 30 INSTEAD OF FOUR O'CLOCK AS RECOMMENDED. 
          IS IT? OKAY. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          IF OTHER THINGS COME UP AS YOU LOOK AT THIS AND, AND JENNY WILL RESEND THIS, UM, CHANGE OUT AND WE WILL, UM, TRY TO LOCK THAT DOWN AT OUR OCTOBER 9TH MEETING. 
          THANK YOU, JENNY, FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT EASY. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          NEXT ITEM IS THE I TWO 70 US 33 INTERCHANGE, PLANTING BED RENOVATION. 
          AND THIS IS A REPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. 
          SO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE MATT IS GOING TO LEAD US OFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          AT THE MAY 22ND MEETING THIS YEAR, CITY COUNCIL REFERRED THIS RENOVATION PROJECT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND DESIGN, UM, FOR THE CONCEPT WITH A RECOMMENDATION. 
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THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE WAS INSTALLED IN 2016 AND WAS MET WITHSTANDING WATER CHALLENGES, WHICH DID NOT ALLOW THE LANDSCAPE TO PERFORM AS INTENDED IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. 
          THIS RENOVATION PROJECT IS INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S C I P FOR $250,000. 
          AT THE, UH, AUGUST 15TH, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING STAFF PRESENTED, UM, A NEW LANDSCAPE CONCEPT, WHICH INCLUDES NEW TREE AND SHRUB SPECIES THAT ARE MORE TOLERANT TO THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. 
          UH, PROVIDE AN ENHANCED, MORE TEXTURAL AND THIRD THREE DIMENSIONAL CONCEPT. 
          ALSO INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN OR MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND INSTALLATION OF FRENCH DRAINS TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE EXCESSIVE GROUNDWATER ISSUES. 
          UH, THIS UPDATED CONCEPT IS ESTIMATED ALSO TO BE $250,000 AS BUDGETED, UM, AND REPRESENTED IN THE C I P. 
          UM, UPON THE REVIEW AND DISCUSSION, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED SOME ALTERNATIVE SPECIES TO THE CONCEPT THAT WAS PROPOSED, WHICH INCLUDES SEA GREEN JUNIPER FOR EVERGREEN DIVERSITY, CRAB APPLE FOR MORE COLOR VARIETY AND BOTTLE BRUSH BUCKEYE SHRUBS FOR INTENDED OR EXTENDED SEASONAL FLOWERING COLOR. 
          STAFF THEN PRESENTED THE UPDATED CONCEPT WITH THE PREFERRED SPECIES AND INCORPORATED IN THE DESIGN AT THE AUGUST 29TH MEETING. 
          UH, THESE MODIFICATIONS DID NOT INCREASE THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH REMAINS AT THE $250,000 BUDGET TO PROVIDE A MORE ILLUSTRATIVE, UH, RENDERING OF THIS CONCEPT. 
          PROFILES OF THE AREA WERE ARE GENERATED. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS DIMENSION OF THE NEW CONCEPT PROVIDES A VARIETY OF LAYERS AND COLORS THAT CHANGE AS VEHICLES TRAVERSE THE INTERCHANGE IN MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS. 
          ALSO, AT THIS MEETING, THE COMMITTEE REQUESTED STAFF BRING BACK EVEN YET A THIRD CONCEPT, UH, WITH THE PREFERRED SPECIES FOR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION. 
          THIS THIRD CONCEPT INCLUDED THE SAME PREFERRED SPECIES, UM, OF TREES AND SHRUBS WITH A LITTLE, UH, WITH MORE BODE LANDSCAPE AND FLOWS, UH, THE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE CURVING ROADWAY. 
          THIS ADDITIONAL IRRIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS TYPE OF CONCEPT AND ADDITIONAL NUMBER OF PLANTS AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE DESIGN ELEVATED THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE PROJECT TO APPROXIMATELY $900,000 TO PROVIDE A MORE ILLUSTRATIVE RENDERING TO THE THIRD CONCEPT PROFILES OF THIS AREA WERE ALSO GENERATED. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE NEW CONCEPT PROVIDE THE VARIETY OF COLORS AND LAYERS THAT CHANGE THE VEHICLES AS THEY TRAVERSE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, AS IN CONCEPT NUMBER TWO. 
          SO WITH THAT MORE DETAILED INFORMATION AND COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING BY A VOTE OF TWO TO ONE. 
          THIS, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF CONCEPT TWO AND FOR STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE FINAL DESIGN SOLICITATION OF BIDS AND CONSTRUCTIONS, UH, CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, FOR THEIR ADDITIONAL INPUT AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYBE BEFORE WE DO THAT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT? OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS? NO, I THINK THE, UH, COMMITTEE DID A, UH, GOOD JOB, UH, RE RECOMMENDING CERTAIN PLANT MATERIALS THAT PROBABLY ARE GONNA BE LONGER LIVE AND, UM, UH, LESS MAINTENANCE. 
          AND, UM, WILL LAST. 
          THE DURATION OF THIS PROJECT ENDED PROBABLY ABOUT 30 OR 40 YEARS, SO I THINK, UH, ALL THE, UH, MEMBERS DID A GOOD JOB ON THAT AND THEY DECIDED FOR THE LESS EXPENSIVE PROJECT. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          THEN I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE I TWO 70 US 33 INTERCHANGE PLANTING BED RENOVATION PLAN AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE MS. AM ROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. CRAM? YES. 
          AND MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM UNDER OTHER BUSINESS THIS EVENING, AND THAT IS ACCEPTING THE 2023 TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW COMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          AND MATT, NO REST FOR THE WARY. 
          HERE WE ARE AGAIN. 
          . 
          THIS IS IT THOUGH. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          SO FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, UH, IN 2023, THE CITY OF DUBLIN ACTUALLY HELD THREE TURK MEETINGS. 
          WE HELD ONE IN UNION, UH, DELAWARE AND FRANKLIN COUNTY. 
          UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ALL OF OUR TIFS WERE FOUND IN COMPLIANCE, BUT THE COUNTY AUDITORS WOULD, UH, LIKE TO REQUEST A VOTE OF COUNSEL TO, UH, KNOW THAT THEY, UH, THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED THE REPORTS AND HAVE REVIEWED THEM. 
          SO IF YOU COULD, UH, MOVE, MOVE TO ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF THE FRANKLIN, DELAWARE AND UNION COUNTY TURKS, IT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MATT. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. 
          UM, 
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DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TURK REPORTS FOR 2023? I WILL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE TURK REPORTS FOR 2023. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL MS. CRAM? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, THAT 
          [STAFF COMMENTS]
TAKES US TO STAFF COMMENTS. 
          MEGAN. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          I DO HAVE SEVERAL UPDATES THIS EVENING, BEGINNING WITH A COMMUNITY INPUT SESSION FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WILL BE HELD THIS THURSDAY AT THE DUBLIN COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER FROM SIX TO SEVEN 30. 
          AND THIS INITIATIVE AND THE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY IS IN FURTHERANCE OF, AND IT WILL INFORM THE ENVISION DUBLIN COMMUNITY PLAN WORK AS WELL. 
          THE OHIO UNIVERSITY DUBLIN CAMPUS IS KICKING OFF A SPEAKER SERIES WITH ITS FIRST EVENT THIS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH. 
          AND THAT WILL BE TITLED, LIVE LONGER. 
          LIVE STRONGER. 
          AND IT'S A PRESENTATION BY SPECIALISTS WITH THE OU HERITAGE COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE. 
          THE EVENT BEGINS AT SIX 30 AND IT'LL BE HELD AT THE DUBLIN INTEGRATED EDUCATION CENTER AUDITORIUM ON THE OU DUBLIN CAMPUS. 
          OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT TEAM HAS BEEN SERVING ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS BEEN LED BY DEAN BILL BURKE. 
          AND THIS WILL ENGAGE THE OVERALL INTEREST OF OUR DUBLIN RESIDENTS FOR LIFELONG LEARNING, HEALTHY AGING IN PLACE AND CONNECTING WITH HIGHER EDUCATION IN DUBLIN. 
          SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT SERIES KICKOFF. 
          THE COLUMBUS ZOO AND AQUARIUM HAS A CONTRACTOR THAT'S PERFORMING EXPLORATORY EXCAVATION OF THE ZOO'S PRIVATE SANITARY FORCE MAIN AT SIX LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN, ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          THIS WORK WILL INVESTIGATE, ASSESS, AND MAKE REPAIRS TO THAT PRIVATE SANITARY FORCE, MAINE AS NECESSARY. 
          THE WORK IS ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THAT WORK UNDERWAY AS WE HAVE SEEN SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THAT ZOO. 
          UM, PRIVATE SANITARY FORCE, MAINE. 
          AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO REPORT ON THE, UM, 2023 JAPAN AMERICAN GRASSROOTS SUMMIT TOOK PLACE THIS PAST WEEK IN CENTRAL OHIO. 
          DUBLIN WAS A SPONSOR AND ONE OF EIGHT LOCAL COMMUNITIES PARTICIPATING. 
          WE WANNA SINCERELY THANK THE SIX DUBLIN FAMILIES WHO WELCOMED GUESTS INTO THEIR HOME. 
          THIS PERSON TO PERSON EXCHANGE AND SHARED ENTHUSIASM FOR LOCAL AND CULTURAL EXPERIENCE IS THE ESSENCE OF THE SUMMIT. 
          OUR HOST FAMILY RESIDENTS TRULY EXEMPLIFY WHY DUBLIN IS A GLOBAL CITY OF CHOICE. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN COORDINATING, UM, IDENTIFYING THE HOST FAMILIES AND THEN COORDINATING THE PROGRAMMING OF THAT EVENT AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL'S SUPPORT OF THE, UM, VARIOUS ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES DURING THE SUMMIT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, I WANTED TO REPORT THAT COUNCILMAN JOHN REINER, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, LINDSEY WEISEN. 
          NOWER AND I HAD A SUCCESSFUL TRIP TO JAPAN SEPTEMBER 7TH THROUGH THE 15TH AND FURTHERANCE OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES IN INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS. 
          WE JOINED A DELEGATION OF MORE THAN 60 PEOPLE FROM OHIO WITH MORE THAN 40 FROM THE CENTRAL OHIO REGION AT THE MIDWEST US JAPAN ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE. 
          THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE BRINGS TOGETHER BUSINESS LEADERS FROM THE MIDWEST REGION OF THE UNITED STATES AND JAPAN EACH YEAR TO DISCUSS THE GROWTH AND PROGRESS OF ECONOMIC RELATIONS BETWEEN THE AMERICAN, MIDWEST AND JAPAN. 
          AND THIS YEAR'S CONFERENCE INCLUDED SPEECHES BY THE US AMBASSADOR TO JAPAN. 
          FIVE US GOVERNORS AND FOUR JAPANESE GOVERNORS OF PREFECTURES WE'RE ALL IN ATTENDANCE AND PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM. 
          NEXT YEAR'S CONFERENCE WILL BE HELD IN COLUMBUS AND PLANS ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY TO ENSURE THAT WE OFFER ATTENDEES THE SAME LEVEL OF HOSPITALITY AND PROGRAMMING THAT TOKYO SHOWED US THIS YEAR. 
          WHILE WE WERE IN JAPAN, WE ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT OUR FRIENDSHIP CITY MOSCO AND TO ENGAGE WITH SEVERAL BUSINESSES. 
          SO MY THANKS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF FOR SETTING UP THOSE BUSINESS VISITS. 
          WE ALSO MET WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS WHILE WE WERE THERE, INCLUDING JETRO, WHICH IS THE JAPANESE EXTERNAL TRADE ORGANIZATION. 
          AND WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO MORE THAN A DOZEN BUSINESSES. 
          AS PART OF THAT ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY, OUR BUSINESS ENGAGEMENTS PROVIDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR TWO-WAY DIALOGUE ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH AND CHALLENGES THE COMPANIES ARE FACING IN THEIR GLOBAL OPERATIONS AND AT THEIR DUBLIN FACILITIES. 
          SO WHILE WE WERE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, MANY INDICATED THAT THEY DO HAVE PLANS TO GROW AND WE OFFERED RESOURCES TO THEM TO ASSIST WITH, UM, ONGOING WORKFORCE RECRUITMENT CHALLENGES WE CERTAINLY HEARD WE'RE A THEME. 
          UM, WE ALSO ENSURED THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THE VARIOUS AMENITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BETA DISTRICT AND FROM DUBLIN, SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING THE DUBLIN TRANSPORT NETWORK, AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S THROUGHOUT DUBLIN IN THE SMART MOBILITY REALM. 
          THE BUSINESS EXECUTIVES, THEY WERE VERY GRACIOUS AND EXPRESSED 
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GRATITUDE, UM, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH US AND FOR OUR TIME AND BUILD UPON OUR EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS. 
          AND THE CONVERSATIONS WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE AND INSIGHTFUL. 
          OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS ALREADY WORKING ON SEVERAL FOLLOW UPS WITH THOSE BUSINESSES BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD. 
          AND A MEMOS SUMMARIZING THE MISSION WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE SEPTEMBER CITY MANAGER REPORT PROVIDING MORE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION. 
          AND I ALSO BELIEVE COUNCILMAN REER, UM, WILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE TRIP LATER DURING COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE. 
          AND THAT IS ALL I HAD THIS EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MEGAN. 
          I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE, UH, ZOO FORCE MAINE. 
          SO I ACTUALLY HAD A RESIDENT REACH OUT TODAY. 
          IS THAT THE PINK KIND OF COLORED PAINT THAT'S ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE? AND WILL THEY BE EXCAVATING AT ALL OF THOSE LO MARKED LOCATIONS OR IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE LIKE CAMERA WORK OR? I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE EXEC. 
          OH, THERE WE HAVE. 
          I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE EXCAVATIONS, BUT PAUL WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS. 
          THEY'VE SECURED THE SERVICES OF IGEL UH, CONSTRUCTION TO ACTUALLY EXCAVATE AND GO DOWN AND LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE FORCE MAIN AT THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          UM, THEY DID AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT INTERNALLY USING A SENSOR, AND THAT'S HOW THEY IDENTIFIED THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO EXCAVATE AND, AND THEN VISUALLY INSPECT THE FORCE MAIN ITSELF. 
          UM, AND THEN IF IN THE EVENT THERE'S A BREAK AS A RESULT OF THIS INVESTIGATION, EGEL IS, UH, CAPABLE OF RE MAKING REPAIRS TO THE FORCE MAIN IN THIS, THE, THE FORCE MAIN SEWER OR WATER? IT'S SEWER, SANTOR SEWER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY IDEA HOW DEEP THAT MAIN IT? IT'S, I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT IT VARIES ABOUT FOUR FEET OF COVER. 
          FOUR FEET ABOUT SAME DEPTH AS THE WATER MAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL PASS THAT ALONG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, I CAN CONFIRM 'CAUSE THEY DID IT IN FRONT OF MY DRIVEWAY TODAY. 
          SO IT DID TAKE ALL DAY. 
          THEY HAD A BACKHOE, THEY DUG IT UP AND THEN THEY, IT WAS, YEAH, ABOUT FOUR, THREE AND A HALF, FOUR FEET DOWN. 
          AND THEN A TRUCK CAME. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. 
          IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE VACUUMING IT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE DOING. 
          VACUUM EXCAVATING. 
          YEAH, THEY WERE LIKE VACUUMING IT FOR ABOUT FIVE HOURS OR SO, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK WITH THE BACKHOE AND FILLED IT BACK IN. 
          SO THERE'S NO, THEY DIDN'T LEAVE A HOLE, BUT I WOULD SAY THEY WORKED AT MY LOCATION TODAY FROM 9:00 AM TILL 5:00 PM 4:00 PM GREAT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          I'LL PASS THAT ALONG. 
          YEAH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT PAUL HAS BEEN COORDINATING WITH THE ZOO, SO I APPRECIATE HIM, HIS ASSISTANCE, UM, OF THEIR STAFF AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH MEGAN. 
          SO THAT WILL 
          [COUNCIL REPORTS]
TAKE US TO COMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE THIS EVENING. 
          WE'LL START WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, SO WE MET AND, UH, RED TREE INVESTMENTS CAME TO TALK WITH US ABOUT OUR INVESTMENT POLICY. 
          AND, UM, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BENCHMARK, BUT REALLY USING IT NOT AS A A, A SOLID PERFORMANCE GAUGE, BUT IN TERMS OF HOW WE FARE WITH OTHER CITIES, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE RETURNING TO US AT A FUTURE MEETING WITH SOME UPDATES, UM, FOR THE IPO INVESTMENT POLICY BASED OFF OF OUR CONVERSATION. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE COST OF CITY SERVICES, THE COST STUDY THAT WE DO PERIODICALLY. 
          UM, SO WE DO HAVE SOME FEE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO YOU'LL BE LOOKING FOR, UH, FOR THAT IN A FUTURE MEETING. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, PUBLIC SERVICES MEETING FOR ME. 
          SO WE MET ON THE 19TH AND WE JUST HAD ONE TOPIC ON THE AGENDA, AND IT WAS A FOLLOW UP TO THE HOLIDAY MARKET DISCUSSION WE HAD HAD PREVIOUSLY. 
          UH, WE HAD ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK, DO A LITTLE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, UH, BEFORE MOVING ANY FURTHER. 
          THEY WENT AND SPOKE WITH THE HISTORIC DUBLIN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, VISIT DUBLIN CRAWFORD HOING, THE ARTS COUNCIL. 
          THEY ALSO HAD VISITED, UH, MARKETS IN CARMEL AND BETHLEHEM, PENNSYLVANIA AND PHILADELPHIA LAST UM, SEASON. 
          SO THEY HAD DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH. 
          THEY TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO RAN THOSE DIFFERENT MARKETS. 
          BASICALLY THE RECOMMENDATION IS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH AN R F P FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF PROVIDING POTENTIAL OWNERSHIP MODELS, POTENTIAL OPERATING MODELS, ALSO POTENTIAL LOCATIONS. 
          WE DISCUSSED THAT THIS COULD BE, THIS. 
          R F P COULD BE BROAD ENOUGH. 
          IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY SPECIFIC FOR HOLIDAY MARKETS. 
          LIKE IT COULD BE JUST OTHER FUTURE EVENTS AND THESE MODELS COULD BE USED FOR THAT. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A BROADER CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS. 
          AND WE ALSO, UM, SPOKE ABOUT HOW THAT, YEAH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A CHRISTMAS MARKET, YOU KNOW, IT COULD JUST BE A HOLIDAY MARKET OF, OF, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GERMAN THEME, IT COULD BE ANYTHING. 
          BUT THIS WAS MORE OF A BROADER FEASIBILITY STUDY ON HOW TO OPERATE EVENTS 
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POTENTIALLY AT RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK OR KAUFFMAN PARK AND DIFFERENT OPERATING MALL. 
          SO WE, UH, RECOMMENDED STAFF PROCEED WITH THAT R F P, OR ACTUALLY THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT TO FULL COUNCIL. 
          WE'LL SEE IT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. 
          YOU'LL GET TO READ THE WHOLE MEMO AND EVERYTHING, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT BROADER SCOPE. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, LIAISON REPORTS, UM, DUBLIN SCHOOL BOARD, BOARD OF EDUCATION? NOPE. 
          UM, LOGAN UNION, ANYTHING? NOTHING TO REPORT ON THAT OR THE 33 CORRIDOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, JOHN DUBLIN, ARTS COUNCIL, OR THE VETERANS COMMITTEE? UH, LET'S SEE. 
          WE HAVE A, UM, NEW ART SHOW COMING UP CALLED CHAPA. 
          SORRY, IT'S A STORY OF COTTON. 
          IT'S GONNA START SEPTEMBER 19TH. 
          RUNS THROUGH, IT STARTED DECEMBER 19TH. 
          WE'LL RUN THROUGH DECEMBER 13TH. 
          UH, AND OUR LAST, UH, SUNDAY AT S THE BRITISH INVASION, WHICH IS ALWAYS PROBABLY ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR BANDS WILL BE OUR CLOSEOUT BAND. 
          SO FOR VETERANS, I WANNA SAY, UH, WE'RE DEEP IN DEVELOPING SOME GREAT PROGRAMS FOR OUR VETERANS AND WE HAVE AN AMAZING STAFF SUPPORTING THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          UH, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, A R B, UH, THE WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP MEETING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH WAS CANCELED, SO I'LL BE ATTENDING TOMORROW NIGHT'S MEETING AND HAVE AN UPDATE NEXT TIME. 
          AS FOR ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD, THEY'RE MEETING THIS WEEK ON WEDNESDAY, AND THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA RELATE TO THE CODE UPDATES. 
          WE ARE FINALLY MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO THEY'LL SEE PROPOSED CODE CHANGES REGARDING THE DE WORDING RELATED TO DEMOLITION CRITERIA. 
          THAT WILL BE BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD. 
          AND THEN, UM, ALSO SOME OTHER MINOR CODE PROCESS UPDATES. 
          QUESTION FOR YOU, THE STAKEHOLDER MEETING, UM, I'M GUESSING ALL OF US GOT EMAILS FROM WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP ABOUT A STAKEHOLDER MEETING. 
          WHO FROM COUNCIL WILL BE REPRESENTING US? SO I, THE STAKEHOLDER MEETING, I WILL BE ATTENDING THE, TO CLARIFY THE EMAIL THAT CAME FROM WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, WHAT THEY WERE ASKING, THEY WERE REACHING OUT TO EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANYONE IN YOUR DISTRICTS OR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO NAMES THAT YOU THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE GOOD STAKEHOLDERS FOR THE WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP MEETING. 
          SO I'LL BE ATTENDING ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL. 
          I LIKEWISE SUBMITTED TWO NAMES FROM MY WARD. 
          UH, SO ONE TO TWO NAMES. 
          THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GRAB A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD CROSS SECTION OF THE POPULATION AND WANTED TO ASK IF YOU HAD ANY INPUT. 
          SO, AND YOU CAN EMAIL THE NAME TO HIM DIRECTLY. 
          WHAT I DID WAS CONFIRM THAT THE PEOPLE I WAS RECOMMENDING ACTUALLY COULD ATTEND. 
          I DID THAT FIRST AND THEN SENT THE NAMES ALONG. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THEN, UH, CHRIS MIDOHIO, REGIONAL PLANNING AND PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          UM, SO PLANNING AND ZONING HAD A, A FULL DOCKET ON THEIR LAST MEETING. 
          UM, I TRUST THAT YOU ALL READ, UH, THE SUMMARY THAT WAS SENT OUT THE FOLLOWING DAY. 
          BUT NOTABLY, THE POND WAS MOVED, UH, IN THE RIVIERA DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE WERE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, RELATIVE TO IN VISION DUBLIN STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          OUR LAST MEETING WAS ON AUGUST 30TH, AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOT PLANNED UNTIL NOVEMBER. 
          THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONNAIRES OUT THERE FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO ANSWER. 
          I HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS YET, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT IN SHORT ORDER FOR SURE. 
          UM, AND WITH, UH, THE MID OHIO REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, WE, UH, MET LAST THURSDAY AND, UH, HAD A GOOD PRODUCTIVE MEETING. 
          THOUGH THERE ARE, UM, LOTS OF GRANT CYCLES OPENING AND THINGS. 
          AND, UM, ALSO WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, GRADE SEPARATIONS FOR RAIL CROSSING. 
          SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE APPLYING FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WOULD, UM, POSSIBLY PERMIT US TO DO SOME GRADE SEPARATIONS AT OUR RAIL CROSSING ON THE WESTERN BORDER. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I'M, I DON'T, YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT AT THIS LAST MEETING. 
          I BELIEVE YOU WERE ELECTED CHAIR YEAH. 
          OF MORSEY. 
          SO, CONGRATULATIONS. 
          UM, AND WE THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A HEAVY LIFT AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK THERE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHRIS. 
          [COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE]
OKAY WITH THAT, UH, ROUND TABLE, AMY, PLEASE. 
          I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, ANDY. 
          SO LAST WEEK WAS A PRETTY BUSY WEEK HERE IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          UM, UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS THAT TURNED OUT FOR THE, UH, BOUNTY AT BRIDGE PARK, UH, FUNDRAISING EVENT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A MODEL FOR FUNDRAISING IN THE COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. 
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UM, I APPRECIATE OUR CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS ABOUT YOUR VISIT TO JAPAN. 
          UM, AND I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING COUNCIL MEMBER REINER'S PERSPECTIVES AS WELL. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST WEEK WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH A LOT OF THESE FOLKS. 
          AND, UM, THEY'RE VERY WARM, VERY WARM, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA SUFFER THROUGH, UH, 15 HOUR FLIGHT TO SMALL TALK. 
          THEY'RE HERE TO DO BUSINESS. 
          AND, UH, THE CITY OF DUBLIN SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. 
          I THINK CENTRAL OHIO SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT INTEL, UM, BUT OUR OPPORTUNITY IS RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES HERE. 
          AND, UM, THE, THE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT WE GOT WAS, DO YOU HAVE GROUND AVAILABLE FOR MANUFACTURING? AND YOU CAN'T SAY NO . 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WOULD APPEAR THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OUR WEST TO, UM, EXPAND LIGHT MANUFACTURING OR PERHAPS EVEN HEAVY MANUFACTURING. 
          WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE RUN INTO A LOT OF NIMBYISM, UM, EVERYWHERE. 
          AND, UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEIGHBORS, YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. 
          SO, UM, IT WAS JUST VERY NICE TO TALK WITH THESE FOLKS. 
          THEY'RE, UM, EAGER, VERY EAGER. 
          THEY WERE DRIVING THE, THE CONVERSATIONS. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WASTE THEIR TIME COMING ALL THIS WAY JUST TO LOOK AT THE, THE LINK BRIDGE. 
          THANK YOU, JOHN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, AS MEGAN MENTIONED, UH, IN HER STAFF COMMENTS, WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL MISSION TO JAPAN. 
          UM, I'VE ALWAYS HAD AN APPRECIATION FOR JAPANESE CULTURE IN JAPAN. 
          THE CULTURE OF RESPECT, UH, PROSPERITY AND PRECISION IS VERY EVIDENT IN THEIR, IN THEIR, UH, AND EVERYTHING THEY HAVE. 
          ART, ART IS IN THEIR FOOD, IN THEIR DRESS, IN THEIR BUILDINGS. 
          IT'S, IT'S REALLY A FANTASTIC CULTURE FROM BEAUTY, FROM, UH, THE JAPANESE GARDENS OF FOOD PREPARATION METICULOUSLY MAINTAINED FACILITIES. 
          JA JAPAN IS TRULY AND EXTREMELY CLEAN COUNTRY WITH PEOPLE WHO GO OUTTA THEIR WAY TO SERVE AND SHOW RESPECT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, AMAZING PEOPLE. 
          UM, WE HAD MANY BUSINESS VISITS IN WHICH WE WERE PROUD TO TALK WITH THE, WITH, UM, ABOUT OUR RICH JAPANESE TIES WITH, UH, DUBLIN. 
          WE SHARED THAT WE HAVE 22 JAPANESE OWNED BUSINESSES IN DUBLIN AND MORE JAPANESE RESIDENTS THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN OHIO. 
          AND THAT PUTS US ABOVE, UH, UNION COUNTY AND EVERY EVERYONE ELSE. 
          SO THERE WAS SOME, UH, THERE WAS SOME MOCKING THAT WE ONLY SENT THREE PEOPLE AND THEY SENT EIGHT AND 10 AND 12 PEOPLE. 
          BUT I THINK THE TEAM YOU SENT OUTWORKED THEIR TEAMS AND, UH, WE'RE TOTALLY FOCUSED. 
          SO, UH, WE SHARED THAT DUBLIN IS THE HOME OF THE OBAN FESTIVAL, WHICH IMPRESSED EVERYONE WE TALKED TO. 
          THEY SEEMED SURPRISED AND HONORED THAT A CITY IN AMERICA HAS AN OBAN FESTIVAL. 
          SO, AND ACTUALLY IT BROKE 'EM UP. 
          WE USED THAT FROM THEN ON AS AN ICEBREAKER. 
          IN EVERY MEETING IT, IT'D BE AS IF THE JAPANESE WOULD SAY, WE HAVE THIS GIANT 4TH OF JULY FESTIVAL. 
          AND AS YOU MENTIONED, KATHY, YOU NEVER SEEN 'EM. 
          AND THESE BILATERAL DISCUSSIONS, WHICH ARE VERY, VERY SERIOUS BACK AND FORTH, UM, YOU'VE NEVER SEEN 'EM REALLY START LAUGHING. 
          AND WE HAD 'EM LAUGHING AND, UH, LET DOWN THEIR GUARD. 
          IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS REALLY A, IT BECAME A LOT OF FUN. 
          SO, CONGRATULATIONS, I WANNA SAY TO JACO FOR PUTTING THIS EVENT ON EACH YEAR AND MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR SUPPORTING IT. 
          VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, THESE TYPES OF CULTURAL CELEBRATIONS GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS BUILDING IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIPS. 
          WE HAD A LOVELY TRIP TO DE MEKO, WHICH BECAME DUBLIN'S FIRST FRIENDSHIP CITY. 
          IN TWO 15. 
          WE MET MA MAYOR, UH, MARITO HARITA, AND SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN ADMINISTRATION. 
          WE DISCUSSED OUR RESPECTIVE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURES AND TALKED ABOUT THE SERVICES AND AMENITIES WE PROVIDE. 
          AFTER THE MEETING, WE SHARED A MEAL AND EXCHANGED GIFTS. 
          THEY GIFTED EACH OF US WITH A PIECE OF THEIR RENOWNED POTTERY. 
          WE PROVIDED A BEAUTIFUL DECANTER FOR SERVING SAKI. 
          AND WE ALSO SHARED RIVER BOXES AND GEOCACHING COINS FROM THE DUBLIN ARTS COUNCIL. 
          THEY WERE REAL CONVERSATION STARTERS. 
          THEY WERE GRATEFUL FOR OUR VISIT. 
          AND WE HAD A WONDERFUL CULTURAL EXCHANGE. 
          UM, IT WAS INTERESTING AND THANK GOD THAT WE GOT A, A STAFF THAT'S ON TOP OF THINGS BECAUSE WE LOOKED IN THEIR CABINET AND WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT GIFTS WE HAD GIVEN . 
          LUCKILY, WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THIS GIFT EVER BEFORE. 
          IN THE PAST, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE LUCKY MOMENTS IN THE INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, WE WERE ALSO HONORED TO BE GUESTS AT THE RESIDENT OF THE US AMBASSADOR JAPAN RAM EMANUEL. 
          AND THERE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH OUR FRIEND, COUNCIL GENERAL JAPAN AND DETROIT YESKI CHINO. 
          AND WE ENGAGED WITH COUNTERPARTS FROM ALL OVER THE MIDWEST. 
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AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE AT THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, UH, THE, UM, A REALLY WONDERFUL SPEECH WAS GIVEN AT THE EMBASSY, AND IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE. 
          AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MILLION DOLLAR SPEECHES. 
          SO WHEN IT WAS OVER, UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK, TALK TO MICHAEL MILTON, UM, COMMERCIAL AT, AT ATTACHE TO THE US EMBASSY. 
          AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AN AWESOME SPEECH FOR ALL THE VISITORS. 
          AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I'LL WRITE THAT SPEECH FOR YOUR GOVERNOR WHEN YOU GUYS HOST THIS NEXT YEAR AND A BETTER SPEECH. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, JUST THE CONNECTIONS WERE REALLY AMAZING THAT WE MADE CULTURE. 
          AND ECONOMICALLY, JAPAN IS AN IMPORTANT ALLY FOR US. 
          JAPAN INVESTED $721 BILLION IN THE US LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S THE HIGHEST OF ANY FOREIGN COUNTRY. 
          THE STRONG AND ENDURING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JAPAN AND THE UNITED STATES EXEMPLIFIES THE IMPORTANCE OF DIPLOMACY, PARTNERSHIP AND SHARED VALUES. 
          THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES ARE HONORED AND, AND IT WAS HONORABLE AND IT WAS REALLY, UH, I WAS HONORED TO BE PART OF THIS TRIP. 
          NOW, OTHER SIDEBARS, THIS TRIP HAD A LOT, A LOT OF VERY INTERESTING OCCURRENCES. 
          UM, AFTER WE LISTENED TO THE FIVE GOVERNORS TALK ABOUT HOW THEIR STATE WAS THE BEST STATE TO HAVE BUSINESS IN, OHIO'S GOVERNOR DIDN'T MAKE IT NOR ANY OF THE STAFF. 
          WE WERE SORT OF TECHNICALLY REPRESENTING OHIO, UH, OUR LITTLE GROUP HERE FROM CENTRAL OHIO. 
          SO, UM, AFTER THAT SPEECH, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT STOOD UP AND HIS NAME WAS HIKO FUJITA. 
          AND HE IS A BORDER TRUSTEES MEMBER OF THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT JUST HAPPENS WHERE YOU GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WORLD TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE BACK IN COLUMBUS, OHIO. 
          SO MEGAN AND I WENT UP TO THIS GENTLEMAN AND WE SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, WE INTRODUCED OURSELVES AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF INTERNSHIPS FOR ENGINEERING STUDENTS AND ARCHITECTURE STUDENTS. 
          AND, UM, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T REALIZE THIS, THIS GUY WAS EXTRAORDINARILY BRIGHT. 
          HE HAD, I THINK HE WAS TAUGHT OUT WEST STANFORD OWNED COMPANIES, SOLD COMPANIES, JUST REALLY A SUPERSTAR. 
          UM, AND SO WE WERE TELLING HIM ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS WE HAD, AND HE LOOKED AT MEGAN AND, YOU KNOW, WANT TO KNOW WHO SHE WAS. 
          AND MEGAN, MEGAN IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF ENGINEERS FOR THE STATE OF OHIO. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, SHE, ALL THE LICENSING AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THIS STATE, SHE IS THE PRESIDENT OF. 
          SO SHE HAS A LOT OF CLOUT. 
          I HAVE THAT SAME POSITION IN THE WORLD OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE. 
          SO WE HAD SOME CREDIBILITY WITH THIS GENTLEMAN, AND WE  WE, WE SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TRY TO GET TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM SOLVED IN OUR CITY. 
          AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I WAS ONE OF THE GUYS THAT PICKED THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED OF THE UNIVERSITY, AND I THINK HE'S THE KIND OF GUY HE'S COMING FROM NEBRASKA. 
          HE'LL BE STARTING IN JANUARY. 
          HE SAID, I THINK HE'LL BE A, A GUY THAT CAN MAKE CHANGES. 
          AND HE ASKED MEGAN, HE SAID, WELL, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THIS PROBLEM? AND SHE SAID, 10 YEARS. 
          AND HE TURNED AROUND TO ME AND SAID, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THIS PROBLEM? I SAID, 40 YEARS. 
          SO HE SAID, HE'S GONNA TRY TO WORK ON THIS. 
          WE TOLD HIM IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERY PERSON THAT GOES TO THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY, THAT THEY GET THE BEST EDUCATION THEY PROBABLY POSSIBLY CAN. 
          AND THE WAY THEY CAN GET THAT IS BY DOING MANDATORY INTERNSHIP IN THESE PROFESSIONAL BUSINESSES OR PROFESSIONAL, UH, ACTIVITIES. 
          SO, UH, WHEN HE WALKED AWAY, HE MUMBLED UNDER HIS BREATH. 
          YOU GUYS HAD JUST PUT ME UNDER SUCH PRESSURE. 
          IT WAS REALLY AN INTERESTING MEETING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, HERE YOU GO. 
          YOU END UP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD TO TRY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN OHIO AND JUST THE FATES COME TOGETHER. 
          UM, I'D ALSO SAY WE FOUND THE INSIGHT AGENTS THAT WERE HELPING OUR COMPETITORS WITHDRAWING IN JAPANESE BUSINESS. 
          AND NOW WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE. 
          AND HOPEFULLY BY NEXT WEEK WE WILL BE CONTACTING THEM AND HAVING LUNCH WITH THEM. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE A BIG ASSET FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          UM, YOU PROBABLY ARE WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU GUYS DO SINCE YOU GOT BACK HERE? IT'S BEEN A WEEK. 
          WELL, LET ME TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE MET WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS ALREADY, UH, WHO ARE GONNA HOST THIS GIANT INTER THIS IS A BIG HONOR, BY THE WAY. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU REALIZE HAVING THIS CONVENTION HERE IN COLUMBUS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S IN NEW YORK AND DALLAS AND PLACES. 
          IT'S COMING HERE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO WE MET WITH, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA PUT THIS ON AND EXPLAINED TO THEM WHAT WAS EXPECTED, WHAT, WHAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE THE JAPANESE FEEL COMFORTABLE. 
          AND, UH, BY THURSDAY THEY CAME BACK AND ARI SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HIRED A, UH, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF 
          [01:30:01]
BREAKFAST. 
          WE'VE ALREADY HIRED A CHEF AND THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON ALL THESE DETAILS. 
          IT WAS REALLY PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. 
          UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, UM, WE WENT TO, UH, CHICO AND OF COURSE THERE'S A, A SAKI PLACE THERE THAT, UM, FOR YEARS I NEVER KNEW WHY WE DIDN'T DO THIS. 
          BUT, UH, SINCE THAT TIME WE MET WITH ONE OF THE BIGGEST DISTRIBUTORS OF SAKI. 
          AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT SAKI IS A GREAT BIG ITEM IN THE ALCOHOL WORLD, JUST REGIONALLY IN OHIO. 
          AND SO THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA START WORKING ON BRINGING OUR SISTER CITIES SAKI INTO THE UNITED STATES AND HELPING 'EM OUT. 
          SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST PROMISES WHEN, WHEN DUBLIN GOES THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PEOPLE OF OUR WORD. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO HELP 'EM. 
          SO, UM, IT WAS ALL, YOU KNOW, AMAZING. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 40 OTHER LITTLE VIGNETTES LIKE THIS THAT, UH, I'D LOVE TO SHARE WITH YOU. 
          BUT, UM, WE, THERE IS SOMETHING MAYBE, MAYBE OVER ASAKI SOMETIME, HUH? WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAYBE OVER ASAKI. 
          WE'LL HAVE, WE'RE HAVE SOME SAKI WE'LL HAVE THE 40 VIGNETTES . 
          SO THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS, YEAH, YOU'LL BE DRINKING OUR SISTER CITY SAKE, HOPEFULLY. 
          UM, UM, SO ANYWAY, THERE'S, IT WAS INTERESTING AND JUST EXPLAINING TO THEM, I, I WAS, WE WERE SITTING IN A MEETING HAVING DINNER AND I COULD JUST SEE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED US, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT OUR CULTURE AND WHAT'S REALLY GREAT? AND WE HAD, AND I, I GOT TO HAND IT TO, WE HAD A FANTASTIC STAFF GO WITH US AND WE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS AND I COULD ALMOST SEE THEIR EYES CHEERING UP OUTTA RESPECT FOR HOW MUCH WE HAD STUDIED, UH, ABOUT THEIR CULTURE AND UNDERSTOOD THEIR CULTURE. 
          SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, JOHN. 
          IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT TRIP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, YEAH, FOR THE WHOLE TEAM. 
          SO CHRISTINA, UM, I'M GONNA KEEP MINE SHORT AND SWEET AND A LITTLE CLOSER TO HOME. 
          I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF. 
          UM, THEY SET UP, UH, A MEET AND GREET MEETING IN MUIRFIELD, WHICH WAS, WHICH WAS NICE. 
          THERE WERE PROBABLY 35 PEOPLE THERE. 
          UM, ASK GOOD QUESTIONS AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS AND IT WAS GOOD. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. 
          I HAVE NOTHING MORE THAN, UH, I PROMISED MY THIRD GRADERS TODAY THAT I WOULD GIVE THEM MY BEST AND OUR MEETING TONIGHT. 
          AND ANY OF THEM ARE STILL UP WATCHING THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          IT'S TIME TO GO TO BED, . 
          UH, BUT I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED MY TIME WITH YOU TODAY. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, I, I'LL ALSO SAY THANK YOU TO JASKO AND THE JAPAN AMERICA GRASSROOTS SUMMIT. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS WONDERFUL, SPECIAL THANK YOU TO ALL THE FAMILIES WHO HOSTED BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS WHAT DUBLIN IS ABOUT. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF CITY MEETINGS. 
          THIS WEEK MEGAN WENT OVER A COUPLE OF THOSE. 
          THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS FOR CONTINUING TO CONTRIBUTE TIME, WHETHER IT'S THE ENVISION DUBLIN OR THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. 
          UM, YOUR INPUT IS IMPORTANT. 
          SO WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENDING THOSE MEETINGS AND REACHING OUT. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE STAND ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU.
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