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          I 
          [CALL TO ORDER ]
WILL CALL THE JUNE 12TH, 2023 COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. 
          AND JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MS. AUDO? HERE. 
          MS. AM ROSE GROOMS. HERE. 
          VICE MAYOR DAROSA. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR FOX. 
          HERE. 
          MR. KEELER? HERE. 
          MS. KRAM? HERE. 
          MR. REINER. 
          HERE I MOVE 
          [ADJOURNMENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION RELATED TO A REQUEST FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE THAT INVOLVES PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN WHICH EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE POSSIBLE INVESTMENT OR EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO BE MADE IN CONNECTION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. 
          MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, JENNY, PLEASE CALL ROLL. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MS. AUDO? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DE YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROUPS? YES. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          [RECONVENE (7 P.M.) ]
WE WILL RECONVENE, UH, THE JUNE 12TH, 2023 COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AND COUNCILMAN KEER, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? WELL, WE 
          [Certificate of Recognition - Sophia Patch]
HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. 
          UH, SOPHIA PATCH, THIS IS, UM, IS HERE THIS EVENING, AND WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HER FOR THE HARD WORK OF ONE OF OUR YOUNGER RESIDENTS. 
          SO, SOPHIE, WOULD YOU JOIN ME, PLEASE? HI THERE. 
          YOU'RE QUITE A GIRL. 
          YOU WON A GOLD MEDAL, DIDN'T YOU? YEAH, I DID. 
          SOPHIE IS A 2023 GRADUATE OF DUBLIN, JEROME HIGH SCHOOL, AND SHE'S ALSO A TOLLS CAREER AND TECHNICAL CENTER STUDENT AT THE POWER SPORTS PROGRAM, AND AN EMPLOYEE OF NO CAGES, HARLEY DAVIDSON. 
          IN APRIL, SHE COMPETED IN THE SKILLS USA COMPETITION AND IS OHIO STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 
          AND THERE WERE OVER 3000 COMPETITORS THAT, UM, COMPETE IN BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY PARTNERS, INSTRUCTORS, AND VENDORS TOGETHER IN OVER A HUNDRED CONTESTS IN ALL 16 CAREER PATHWAYS TO SHOWCASE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION IN OHIO, TOOK THE GOLD IN HER JOB SKILLS DEMONSTRATION, AND NOW YOU FACE COMPETITION AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. 
          THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          WE ARE. 
          SO, UH, YOU WILL COMPETE IN THAT SKILLS USA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ON JUNE 19TH THROUGH THE 23RD. 
          WHERE'S THAT GONNA BE HELD? HELD AT ATLANTA, GEORGIA. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          SO WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW EXTREMELY PROUD WE ARE, UH, THAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED THE STATE LEVEL CHAMPIONSHIP, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE PROCLAMATION OR RECOGNITION HERE FOR YOU. 
          OH, WOW. 
          IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION PRESENTED TO YOU. 
          ON BEHALF OF THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF DUBLIN, WE HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE SOPHIE PATCH FOR BEING AN OUTSTANDING REPRESENTATIVE AND, AND BRINGING GREAT PRIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANY, UM, SAY? I DON'T MIND. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I DECIDED TURN ROLL INTO TOLLS MY JUNIOR YEAR. 
          I FIGURED THAT COLLEGE WASN'T THE PATH THAT I WAS DESTINED TO BE ON. 
          I ENROLLED INTO THE POWER SPORTS AND AUTO SERVICES PROGRAM, UM, WHERE WE PRETTY MUCH MAINTAIN ANYTHING SMALLER THAN A CAR. 
          SO WE WORK ON A LOT OF DIRT BIKES, MOTORCYCLES, UM, SIDE-BY-SIDE, ET CETERA. 
          MY SENIOR YEAR, I DECIDED TO BE IN THE COHORT PROGRAM WHERE WE GO TO SCHOOL FOR TWO WEEKS, AND THEN WE'RE OUT IN THE WORKFORCE FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          SO FOR HALF OF MY SENIOR YEAR, I WASN'T EVEN IN THE BUILDING. 
          UM, AND AS SHE MENTIONED, I WAS AN EMPLOYEE AT NO CAGES, HIGHLY DAVIDSON. 
          AT THE END OF MY SENIOR YEAR, THEY HAD DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO KEEP ME AS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE. 
          SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AT NO CAGES HOLLY DAVIDSON. 
          UM, MY EXPERIENCE AT TOLLS, I COULDN'T BE MORE GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN ME. 
          AND I AM SO THANKFUL THAT YOU ALLOWED ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I KNOW THAT DR. 
          TODD HOLY IS HERE THIS EVENING, SUPERINTENDENT OF TOLLS, AND I THINK HE HAS A COUPLE WORDS TO SAY ABOUT YOU. 
          SURE. 
          YEP. 
          THANK 
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YOU, MAYOR FOX, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          FIRST OFF, LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR HONORING SOPHIA TONIGHT. 
          SHE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF REALLY ANOTHER LAYER OF DIVERSITY HERE IN OUR, OUR GREAT CITY OF DUBLIN, OHIO. 
          YOU KNOW, DUBLIN SCHOOLS PRODUCED SO MANY WONDERFUL STUDENTS, SO MANY GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          SOPHIA CHOSE TO TAKE THE ROLE, THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED AND CHOSE, UH, TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION BECAUSE SHE FELT THAT'S WHAT'S RIGHT FOR HER. 
          AND THAT'S AGAIN, WHAT'S WONDERFUL ABOUT DUBLIN SCHOOLS AND ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, DUBLIN AND TOLLS IS IT'S ANOTHER OPTION FOR STUDENTS WHO REALLY ARE LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT PATHWAY. 
          SO AGAIN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANKS FOR HONORING, UH, REALLY WHAT OFTENTIMES GOES UNNOTICED IN DUBLIN, AND THAT'S A SUCCESS OF OUR STUDENTS WHO CHOOSE TO GO DIRECTLY TO CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND TO THE WORKFORCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE A PICTURE? OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEP. 
          READY? CONGRATULATIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT 
          [Franklin County Auditor - 2023 Property Reappraisal]
ON OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE PR CASEY TO COME FORWARD AND SHARE A MESSAGE FROM THE FRANKLIN COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR FOX, VICE MAYOR DE ROSA, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          IT'S AN HONOR TO BE BEFORE, BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. 
          UH, MY NAME IS PR CASEY. 
          I AM A DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE GENERAL COUNCIL FOR FRANKLIN COUNTY AUDITOR MICHAEL STANO. 
          AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          UM, AS SOMEONE HAS SPENT HIS CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE, I VERY MUCH KNOW THE VALUE AND I APPRECIATE YOURS. 
          UM, WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE 2023 REAPPRAISAL. 
          UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AROUND TO SO MANY CITY COUNCILS, ROTARIES CLUBS THAT WE CAN IN FRANKLIN COUNTY TO SPREAD THE WORD THAT THE REAPPRAISAL IS UPON US, AND EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          AND WE'VE FOUND IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO COME TO, ESPECIALLY TO PLACES LIKE THIS, FORUMS LIKE THIS, SO THAT IF WE CAN KIND OF EDUCATE YOU, THEN HOPEFULLY YOU CAN THEN DURING YOUR OFFICE HOURS OR WHATNOT, UM, HELP EDUCATE YOUR CONSTITUENTS AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. 
          I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO JENNY. 
          UM, SHE WAS HIT WITH NO LESS THAN THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS SLIDE DECK BETWEEN 4 45 AND FIVE AS WE, UH, WERE MAKING A COUPLE CHANGES, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, SO, UH, LET'S SEE. 
          SO HERE WE GO. 
          WHY DOES THE FRANKLIN COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE CONDUCT REAPPRAISALS? WELL, WE'RE OBLIGATED BY LAW TO DO SO. 
          SO EVERY SIX YEARS, COUNTY AUDITORS IN OHIO HAVE TO CONDUCT A REAPPRAISAL EVERY THIRD YEAR. 
          IN BETWEEN THE SIX YEAR CYCLE, WE'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO DO A TRIENNIAL UPDATE. 
          SO THAT'S, UH, PRETTY VERY SIMILAR TO A REAPPRAISAL, A LITTLE LESS, UM, UH, UH, COMPLICATED, PRETTY MUCH IS A, A, A, UH, MORE OF AN ALGORITHM UPDATES. 
          BUT, UM, EVERY SIX YEARS WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO THE, THE REAPPRAISAL. 
          AND THIS YEAR IS THE YEAR, UM, THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TAXATION DOES MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION ON OUR, UM, LIST OF VALUE CHANGES, UM, THAT WE MUST GET. 
          WE MUST GET CLEARANCE FROM THEM BEFORE WE GO FORTH TO THE PUBLIC AND GIVE THEM THEIR NEW VALUES. 
          HOW IS A REAPPRAISAL CONDUCTED? UH, COUNTY AUDITORS WORK, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF APPRAISAL. 
          THERE'S FEE APPRAISAL, SO IF YOU GET YOUR HOUSE APPRAISED FOR A BANK OR SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE A FEE APPRAISAL. 
          YOU'RE PAYING SOMEONE TO COME INTO YOUR HOUSE, LIKE IN THE INSIDE THE OUTSIDE AND GIVE YOU AN OVERALL VALUE. 
          THERE IS ALSO A MASS APPRAISAL, AND THAT IS WHAT COUNTY AUDITORS PRACTICE. 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PARCELS, WE COULDN'T DO IT THE WAY I JUST MENTIONED. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES. 
          FRANKLIN COUNTY HAS OVER 400,000 PARCELS THAT MUST BE, UH, ASSESSED ON A SIX YEAR BASIS. 
          SO WHAT GOES INTO MASS APPRAISAL? WELL, YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE SLIDE, UH, RECENT HOME SALES IN 
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YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD MAKE UP A A, A BIG CHUNK OF WHERE WE'RE GETTING OUR VALUE INFORMATION, BUT ALSO WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD DATA, UH, AND A VISUAL EXTERIOR INSPECTION. 
          AGAIN, WE CANNOT GET INTO THE INSIDES OF HOMES, BUT WE DO TAKE A LOOK EVERY SIX YEARS AT THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOME USING VARIOUS TECHNIQUES. 
          THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE KNOW YOUR HOME VALUE WEBSITE. 
          SO THIS IS GONNA BE THE BEST TOOL FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE TO GET, UH, TO, TO HAVE ANSWERED QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND GET INFORMED ABOUT THE 2023 REAPPRAISAL. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY A PHOTO OR A SLIDE OF THE HOMEPAGE. 
          I WANNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE GREEN, UH, EMAIL OR RATHER, UH, INTERNET ADDRESS AT THE BOTTOM, FRANKLIN COUNTY AUDITOR.COM/KNOW YOUR HOME VALUE. 
          YOU CAN LINK TO THE KNOW YOUR HOME VALUE SITE THROUGH THE MAIN AUDITOR SITE OR GO DIRECTLY TO IT. 
          BUT, UH, WHEN I, WHEN I GET A LITTLE FURTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION, I'LL HIT A COUPLE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC CAN FIND ON THE SITE. 
          SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? UM, WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT AND WHEN? WELL, HERE WE ARE IN AUGUST. 
          UM, THIS IS THE MONTH, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE'RE SORRY, WE'RE IN THE SUMMER, UH, AUGUST IS, IS COMING UP FAST. 
          UM, AND IN AUGUST WE WILL BE SENDING EVERY, UH, PROPERTY OWNER COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL IN THE COUNTY, A MAILER THAT HAS THEIR NEW VALUE LISTED. 
          UM, IT WILL ALSO BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE THAT I JUST, THAT I JUST SHOWED. 
          UM, THEN IN AUGUST, ONCE THEY GET THEIR TENTATIVE DEVALUE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO, UH, ONLINE OR CALL INTO THE OFFICE AND SCHEDULE A PROPERTY VALUE REVIEW SESSION. 
          SO THOSE SESSIONS WERE GOING TO BE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, ALL OVER THE COUNTY. 
          I BELIEVE. 
          WE WILL BE IN DUBLIN FOR I THINK TWO DAYS. 
          UM, AND PEOPLE CAN MAKE APPOINTMENTS TO COME MEET WITH AN APPRAISER, SIT DOWN FOR ABOUT A 20 MINUTE SESSION, UH, IN AND INFORMALLY KIND OF DISCUSS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE VALUE. 
          THEY CAN BRING EVIDENCE IF THEY BELIEVE THAT WE GOT IT WRONG. 
          UH, AND THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED AND, AND LOOKED AT, UH, MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, THOSE, AGAIN, PROPERTY VALUES REVIEWS WILL HAPPEN THE ENTIRE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. 
          THEY'RE ALSO ONLINE, SO YOU CAN DO IT REMOTELY OR IN PERSON. 
          UH, OCTOBER, WE WILL FINALIZE VALUES COMING OFF OF THE PROPERTY VALUE REVIEWS. 
          AND THEN IN DECEMBER, FOR THOSE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT DID COME IN TO TAKE, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A PROPERTY VALUE REVIEW, WE WILL GIVE THEM ANOTHER MAILING, WHICH INDICATES THEIR FINAL VALUE, UH, PRIOR TO THE TAX BILLS COMING OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          HOW WILL MY PROPERTY VALUE BE AFFECTED? UM, SO THIS IS A SLIDE THAT KIND OF GETS TO, I'M SURE, UH, THE WORD HAS STARTED GETTING OUT, HOPEFULLY THAT WE ARE IN A REAPPRAISAL CYCLE AND THAT VALUES ARE GOING UP, THEY'RE GOING WAY UP. 
          UM, AND WHY IS THAT? UH, THIS SLIDE KIND OF GETS INTO THAT, AND WE'RE CALLING IT THE PERFECT STORM. 
          UH, THE PERFECT STORM FACTORS INCLUDE A CONTINUING HOT DEMAND FOR PROPERTY IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. 
          WE ARE CONTINUALLY, FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, BEEN LISTED AS A TOP FIVE PLACE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, LOCAL POPULATION GROWTH IS BOOMING. 
          PLACES LIKE INTEL COMING IN, UM, AND ALSO THAT FRANKLIN COUNTY IS FRANKLY JUST A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. 
          UM, BUT THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS WE HAVE INSUFFICIENT HOUSING STOCK TO HOUSE ALL THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO BE IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, UH, OUTSIDE INVESTMENT IN THE LOCAL PROPERTY MARKET THAT IS DRIVING VALUES UP, UH, CUTS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, OUTDATED STATE LAWS, REALLY NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE PACE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE TIMING OF THE RE STATUTORILY REQUIRED UPDATE. 
          I MEAN, IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE, IF WE COULD CHOOSE WHEN TO DO A REAPPRAISAL, I WOULD FRANKLY CHOOSE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, THE FED RAISING RATES, WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL INFLATION. 
          I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE HOUSING MARKET AND STABILIZE IT AND POTENTIALLY BRING, START BRINGING SOME VALUES DOWN. 
          HOWEVER, WE ARE STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO DO IT THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE EFFECTS OF THOSE, UM, THOSE, UM, STEPS YET, BUT POTENTIALLY NEXT YEAR WE COULD, BUT, UH, WE CANNOT. 
          SO, UM, THAT LAST POINT THERE IN ITALICS, ALL THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SALES IN 2022 DECREASED WHEN COMPARED TO 2021. 
          PROPERTY VALUES IN FRANKLIN COUNTY HAVE CONTINUED TO INCREASE OVER 33 OF, UH, PAST 36 MONTHS. 
          SO THERE IS NEWS OUT THERE, OH, THE HOUSING MARKET NATIONALLY IS SLOWING. 
          THE VALUES ARE GOING DOWN. 
          IT'S NOT HAPPENING IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. 
          VALUES HAVE CONTINUED TO RISE. 
          UH, I WOULD SAY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WE'RE SEEING 
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IS MAYBE HOUSES ARE STAYING ON THE MARKET A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT VALUES ARE NOT DECREASING. 
          AND THIS IS, UH, JUST A, A GRAPHIC TO SHOW THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE SEEN. 
          UM, SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT VALUE INCREASES THIS CYCLE. 
          UH, THERE ARE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, ESPECIALLY THE BLUE ONES THAT ARE ALSO IN A REAPPRAISAL CYCLE THAT ARE SEEN OVER 30%, UH, 30 OR 30% RISE EXPECTED RISES. 
          SO THIS IS THE BIG QUESTION, A HUNDRED DOLLARS QUESTION, RIGHT? HOW WILL THIS INCREASE OR AFFECT YOUR TAXES? WELL, I'M NOT HERE TO, TO FIB. 
          UH, IT IS LIKELY AS THE SLIDE SAYS, THAT THESE INCREASED VALUES WILL, UH, DRIVE, UH, THE TAX BURDEN ON CITIZENS UP. 
          UM, HOWEVER, UH, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE PANIC WHEN THEY HEAR ABOUT A VALUE INCREASE. 
          OH, MY TAXES ARE GOING UP. 
          YES, PROBABLY. 
          HOWEVER, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT IT IS NOT A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO BETWEEN VALUE AND TAX RATES. 
          UM, A AS THE LAST SENTENCE SAYS, THEY'RE A 20% INCREASE IN VALUE, DOES NOT USUALLY CORRELATE TO A 20% INCREASE IN TAXES. 
          UH, THE FORMULA IS THERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          I FIND THIS PRETTY INTERESTING CUZ I DIDN'T FRANKLY KNOW IT BEFORE I STARTED DOING THIS JOB. 
          UH, THAT IS THE FORMULA BY WHICH, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL'S TAXES FOR THEIR PROPERTY ARE DETERMINED. 
          IT IS ACTUALLY 35% OF THE AUDITORS ASSESSED VALUE OF A PROPERTY MULTIPLIED BY THE TAXING DISTRICT RATE. 
          SO REALLY, MUNICIPALITIES LIKE DUBLIN CREATE THEIR OWN TAX RATE THROUGH THINGS LIKE BONDS AND LEVIES. 
          AND IT IS THAT AMOUNT THAT IS MULTIPLIED BY 35% OF THE VALUE THAT, THAT MY OFFICE PUTS ON, ON A PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU GET DIFFERENT TAX RATES ALL OVER THE COUNTY. 
          UM, THINGS LIKE, UH, UH, SCHOOL LEVIES AND SUCH AFFECT THE OTHER END OF THE, UH, OF THE, UM, EQUATION. 
          SO YOU SEE THERE, THE SLIDE ENDS WITH THE WORDS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH LEADS INTO THIS SLIDE. 
          UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME SCENARIOS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF DIFFERENT WAYS TAXES CAN BE AFFECTED BY THE VALUE INCREASES. 
          UM, THERE ARE SCENARIOS BY WHICH, UM, TAXES CAN GO DOWN BASED ON, ON A, UH, REAPPRAISAL. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING THAT IN FRANKLIN COUNTY THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM SCENARIO, POTENTIALLY THE VERY TOP ONE IN SOME PLACES AS WE GO AROUND THE COUNTY, UH, WE GET THE QUESTION, THE, THE QUESTION WE PROBABLY GET THE MOST AS WELL. 
          IF YOU'RE SAYING THE VALUES ARE GOING UP AND, AND THAT'S GOING TO CORRELATE LIKELY TO A TAX INCREASE, WHO'S GETTING IT? WHO'S GETTING THAT WINDFALL? WHERE, WHERE'S, WHERE'S ALL THAT TAX EXTRA TAX MONEY GOING? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, UH, MOST PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES, WHICH WE WILL BE SEEING DO NOT RESULT IN MUCH HIGHER OVERALL TAXES COLLECTED BY POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS. 
          AND THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN VALUES GO UP, TAX RATES GENERALLY GO DOWN TO MAINTAIN THE SAME TAXES COLLECTED. 
          AND THAT'S DUE TO, UH, TAX EQUALIZATION THAT WAS PUT FORTH IN OHIO HOUSE BILL NINE 20. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE COLORED SQUARE THERE. 
          GOING ON PAST A RECENT PAST EXAMPLE, WE HAD THE TRIENNIAL UPDATE 2023 YEARS AGO. 
          UH, PROPERTY VALUES GENERALLY ACROSS THE COUNTY WENT UP 20% THREE YEARS AGO. 
          UH, THAT CORRESPONDED FOR, UM, FOR PROPERTY TAXES TO ALL TAXING AUTHORITIES TO A, UH, 6.96 INCREASE IN TAXES. 
          AND THEN FOR FRANKLIN COUNTY, UH, A 2.57%. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES. 
          UH, THERE IS MATH INVOLVED, UH, AGAIN, ON, ON THE IDEA OF, OF WHAT HAPPENS TO ADDITIONAL REVENUE. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL TAXES THAT ARE COLLECTED AFTER A CHANGE IN PROPERTY VALUE GO TOWARD THE SAME THINGS THAT THE TAXING ENTITIES WOULD NORMALLY SPEND TAX MONEY ON. 
          SO, UH, SCHOOL IS FUNDED THROUGH A LEVY. 
          THERE IS A CHANCE THAT A SCHOOL WOULD END UP WITH A, WITH A SOME MORE TAX DOLLARS. 
          THEY WOULD BE SPENDING THAT ON THE SAME THING. 
          THEY WOULD BE, UM, USING MONEY FOR, UH, UH, RE REPURPOSING THE SCHOOL, BUYING SUPPLIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          EACH TAXING ENTITY MAKES THEIR OWN DECISIONS ON HOW TO SPEND THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC CAN CONTACT THEIR LOCAL, UM, UM, GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION TO SEE HOW THEY PARTICULARLY COULD POTENTIALLY SPEND THEIR, UH, EXTRA TAX DOLLARS. 
          WE DO HAVE A NICE FEATURE ON THE AUDITOR'S 
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WEBSITE UNDER OUR PROPERTY SEARCH FEATURE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRAPHIC THERE. 
          UH, SOMEONE CAN GO AND PULL UP THEIR PROPERTY AND GET A REALLY NICE BREAKDOWN OF EVERYWHERE THAT THOSE PROPERTY TAXES ARE BEING ALLOCATED. 
          HOW CAN YOU THE PUBLIC ENSURE ACCURATE VALUATIONS? WELL, THE FIRST WAY IS YOU CAN GO PULL UP YOUR PROPERTY, LIKE I JUST SAID, ON THE PROPERTY SEARCH PAGE, AND YOU CAN SEE IF WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT FEE APPRAISERS. 
          WE CANNOT GET INSIDE YOUR HOME. 
          WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE BEST, MOST ACCURATE DATA ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE THREE BATHROOMS OR TWO OR FOUR, FOUR BEDROOMS, OR THREE. 
          SO THAT IS A GREAT WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO KIND OF CHECK US AND GIVE US THE BEST INFORMATION. 
          WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES VERY QUICKLY. 
          UH, AND WE DO EVERY DAY WHEN PEOPLE LOOK UP THEIR PROPERTY AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'VE GOT A, YOU'VE GOT ME WITH, UH, TWO BATHROOMS AND I'VE ACTUALLY GOT, GOT A THIRD. 
          UM, THE SECOND WAY IS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROPERTY VALUE REVIEWS OF, AS I'VE ALREADY STATED IN SEPTEMBER, TO SIT DOWN WITH AN APPRAISER AND REALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE A CASE AND WHATNOT. 
          AND I WILL SAY THAT IF THE, UH, THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS NOT SATISFIED, UH, AFTER THEIR FINAL VALUES COME OUT AFTER HAVING SAT THROUGH A PROPERTY VALUE REVIEW, THEY STILL DO HAVE THE, UH, RIGHT UNDER LAW TO GO, UM, THROUGH THE BOARD OF REVISION PROCESS AT THE COUNTY, WHICH IS A MORE FORMALIZED PROCESS, UH, WHERE THEY CAN ALSO HAVE THEIR DAY IN COURT, IF YOU WILL, REGARDING THEIR PROPERTY VALUE. 
          AND WHERE CAN YOU FIND MORE INFORMATION? WELL, AGAIN, IT'S ON THE AUDITOR'S, UH, UH, WEBSITE, SPECIFICALLY THE KNOW YOUR HOME VALUE WEBSITE. 
          I'M JUST GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH A COUPLE SLIDES WHICH DEMONSTRATE THE THINGS WE ARE DOING ON THAT SITE. 
          I'M PRETTY EXCITED, AS IS THE AUDITOR BECAUSE, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDING SOME FEATURES TO THE WEBSITE THAT I BELIEVE NO OTHER COUNTY IN OHIO HAS BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE IT. 
          UH, ITS CONSTITUENTS, UH, THOSE THREE BULLETS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM KIND OF BREAK THAT OUT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, COMPARE MY HOME VALUE GIS MAPPING, UH, TOOL. 
          YOU ARE LITERALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO GO ON VERY SIMPLY TO SEE NOT ONLY YOUR VALUE, YOUR NEIGHBOR'S VALUE, YOUR PRINCIPAL'S VALUE, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER'S VALUE, YOUR MAYOR'S VALUE, UM, NOT ONLY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE COUNTY LEVEL, YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE, UH, CITY LEVEL. 
          YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE STATE LEVEL. 
          YOU CAN EVEN TAKE IT TO THE NATIONAL LEVEL. 
          UH, MY FRIENDS IN THE GIS DEPARTMENT ARE REALLY SMART. 
          UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY FUN TO PLAY AROUND WITH AND VERY INFORMATIVE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A 2024 PROPERTY TAX ESTIMATOR TOOL. 
          SO WE'RE RISING VALUES, AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO THAT THEIR TAXES. 
          WE'VE CREATED A TOOL TO HOPEFULLY VERY CLOSELY ESTIMATE WHAT YOUR VALUE INCREASE IS GONNA DO TO YOUR TAXES. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NICE, UH, LINK OR, UM, PORTAL TO BE ABLE TO EASILY SCHEDULE YOUR PROPERTY VALUE, VALUE REVIEW, WHETHER IT'S, UH, IN-PERSON OR ONLINE. 
          THIS IS ANOTHER FEATURE OF THE HOME VALUE WEBSITE. 
          UH, WE HAVE A VERY, VERY EXTENSIVE FAQ UH, PORTION THAT, AGAIN, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND HOW IT'S BEING DONE, I WOULD FIRST PROBABLY SEND THEM THERE. 
          UH, VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT THEIR QUESTION IS ALREADY, UH, ANSWERED AT THE FAQ PORTION. 
          UH, THIS JUST INDICATES A COUPLE MAPS WE HAVE ON, ON, ON, ON THE WEBSITE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT, THE PURPLE AND GREEN ONE, UM, GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE DELINEATED NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UH, WE HAVE NEVER DELINEATED NEIGHBORHOODS AS AS, AS CLOSELY AS WE HAVE FOR THIS REAPPRAISAL. 
          THAT'S DEFINITELY AN INNOVATION THAT WE HAVE, UM, ACHIEVED GOING INTO THIS REAPPRAISAL UH, DELINEATION MEANS WE'VE TAKEN, WE'VE DRILLED DOWN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GETTING VALUED, UM, AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND, UM, SO THAT ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING ASSESSED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ARE OF THE SAME NATURE AND QUALITY, WHICH LEADS TO A MORE ACCURATE APPRAISAL OVERALL. 
          SO THAT IS AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SEE WHERE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS. 
          I MEAN, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALL ANG HIGHLANDS, SO YOU'RE THINKING, OH, THAT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          BUT ANG HIGHLANDS ON THIS MAP IS PROBABLY BROKEN INTO THREE ACTUAL SUBSECTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE, THAT'S HOW THE, UH, HOUSES BREAK OUT. 
          UM, THEN ON THE RIGHT, THE ORANGE AND RED MAP, UM, IS THE, IS YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECTIVE RESIDENTIAL TAX RATES BASED, UH, ON 2022 DATA. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLIED AGAINST 
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THE 35% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE TO EQUAL THE TAXES. 
          UH, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU FIND ON THE WEBSITE? WE HAVE A BUNCH OF VIDEOS, WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY FOR YOU CUZ THEY SAY A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS I JUST SAID, BUT THEY ARE INFORMATIVE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE HAVE A, A BUTTON THERE WHERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A SPEAKER AT THE PUBLIC OR A CLUB OR A GROUP WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST SOMEBODY FROM THE OFFICE TO COME OUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE THAT CAN BE REQUESTED. 
          AND WE'LL COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE REAPPRAISAL. 
          UH, FINALLY, YOU CAN ALWAYS CONTACT THE AUDITOR. 
          HIS WEBSITE IS RIGHT THERE. 
          HIS, I'M SORRY, HIS, HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS RIGHT THERE. 
          UH, 6 1 4 5 2 5. 
          HOME IS THE GENERAL OFFICE NUMBER WHERE WE ANSWER ALL CALLS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT A COUPLE LINKS THERE TO SOME VARIOUS PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTY THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE STRUGGLING DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEIR, UM, THEIR PROPERTY VALUE AND POTENTIALLY THEIR TAX BURDEN HAS INCREASED. 
          SO, UM, COULD ALWAYS DIRECT PEOPLE TO THOSE IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT. 
          SO I TRIED TO SPEED IT UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT GOING ON, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME AND I HOPE, UM, I HOPE IF IF ANYBODY IS MORE INTERESTED, YOU WILL SEND 'EM TOWARDS THE WEBSITE OR, OR JUST TO GIVE US A CALL AND WE'LL TALK TO ANYBODY. 
          IF, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT I CAN, AND I HAD A, I HAD A HANDOUT TOO THAT I THINK JENNY DISTRIBUTED THAT IS ON, WE DO HAVE IT A COUPLE PAGES. 
          YEAH, THERE IS SPECIFIC DATA TO DUBLIN LISTED ON THERE. 
          SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE POINTING RESIDENTS TO WHERE THEY CAN GET RESOURCES, QUESTIONS ANSWERED. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S INFORMATIONAL NEWS. 
          PROBABLY NOT AS GOOD AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, BUT, UM, I KNOW THIS MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AS WELL, BUT HAVING THE RESOURCES IS GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [CITIZEN COMMENTS ]
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ON AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT, UM, ON ANY TOPIC THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE SIGNED UP. 
          AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING, IF YOU'LL COME TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. 
          AND, UH, LINDSAY, WHO DO WE HAVE FIRST? GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JONATHAN SMITH HAS SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. 
          WELCOME, MR. SMITH, JUST YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON WHEN AND WHEN THE MICROPHONE'S ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME'S JONATHAN SMITH. 
          I LIVE AT, UH, 68 0 5 DUBLIN ROAD HERE IN DUBLIN. 
          UM, I COME TO YOU TONIGHT TO, UH, UH, SHARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION THIS YEAR. 
          WE HAD SOME ISSUES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD LAST YEAR, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AND MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS TO MAKE THIS YEAR'S A LITTLE MORE SMOOTHLY RUN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE PULLING OFF OF DUBLIN ROAD AND PARKING IN THE DITCH AREA IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF DUBLIN ROAD. 
          IT'S A VERY NARROW SPACE, UH, FIVE TO SIX FEET WIDE. 
          AND AS A RESULT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE PULLING OFF AND PARKING THERE ILLEGALLY, THEY WERE HANGING INTO THE PAVEMENT AREA OF DUBLIN ROAD, IMPEDING TRAFFIC. 
          UM, SOUTHBOUND, UH, ANYONE TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND HAD TO GO LEFT OF CENTER TO GET AROUND THESE ILLEGALLY PARKED CARS. 
          AND IT MADE FOR A REAL MESS. 
          IT WAS GRIDLOCK. 
          UH, ALL THIS IS HAPPENING AFTER DARK, UM, FROM THE TIME, UM, UH, THE FIREWORKS KICK OFF UNTIL, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HALF, HALF HOUR, HALF HOUR AFTER THE GRAND FINALE. 
          UM, IT'S A VERY DARK STRETCH OF ROAD THAT I LIVE ON. 
          IT'S, UH, JUST NORTH OF OLD DUBLIN, UH, BETWEEN INDIAN RUN AND, UH, EMERALD PARKWAY. 
          UM, THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS OUT THERE. 
          UH, SO PEOPLE WERE EXITING THEIR CARS INTO DUBLIN ROAD. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE ON DUBLIN ROAD, WALKING ON DUBLIN ROAD. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS AN ISSUE. 
          IT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE. 
          AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU ALL COULD ARRANGE TO POST SOME NO PARKING SIGNS ALONG THAT STRIP ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF DUBLIN ROAD TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE. 
          THIS YEAR, IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE, I'VE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM UNTIL LAST YEAR. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. 
          SOMEBODY PULLED OFF IN THE DARK AND EVERYBODY FOLLOWED THEM 
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AND IT WAS BUMPER TO BUMPER. 
          SO THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. 
          BUT AS I WAS OBSERVING THE CHAOS DOWN, UH, ON DUBLIN ROAD LAST YEAR, I WAS ASTOUNDED BY HOW MANY FOLKS WERE WALKING UP TO THE, UH, FIREWORKS FROM, UH, OLD DUBLIN, UH, BRIDGE PARK, I GUESS, UH, UH, JUST HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. 
          AND THEY WERE ALL HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILIES WITH THEIR CHILDREN, UH, KIDS ON BIKES WITH MOM AND DAD AND BABY CARRIAGES. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A PARADE OF HUMANITY. 
          BUT BECAUSE, UH, IT IS SO DARK THROUGH THERE, UH, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE WISE IF THE CITY MIGHT BEEF UP SECURITY, UM, A POLICE PRESENCE WOULD BE IN ORDER, I THINK, UH, BECAUSE OF ALL THE PEOPLE AND THE DARKNESS OF THE AREA. 
          UH, I MUST TELL YOU, WE HAD ONE BAD ACTOR LAST YEAR THAT WAS, UH, MAKING PROBLEMS. AND, UH, I, I THINK WE NEED A POLICE PRESENCE OUT THERE THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW? UM, JUST TO SECURE ALL THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, BESIDES THE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND THE SECURITY ISSUES, UH, UH, CROWD CONTROL MIGHT ALSO BE LOOKED AT. 
          UH, THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE TRESPASSING ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          UH, THERE'S A BIG LOT FIELD AREA UP ALONG TWO 70 ON THE WEST SIDE OF DUBLIN ROAD. 
          THERE WAS EVIDENCE OF PEOPLE PULLING THEIR VEHICLES OFF ROAD AND GOING ONTO THAT PROPERTY. 
          I DON'T OWN IT, DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, CONTROL OVER THAT, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT MIGHT HAVE SOME KIND OF OBJECTION TO THAT. 
          SO, IN CLOSING, IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO THESE MATTERS AND MAYBE TAKE A FEW STEPS TO CORRECT THEM, IT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT, THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. 
          AND OUR CHIEF OF POLICE IS HERE THIS EVENING, AND WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          I MUST, I MUST SAY THE, THE POLICE HAVE DONE A BANG UP JOB OVER THE YEARS WHEN I'VE DEALT WITH 'EM. 
          BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF A, A SMALL AREA THAT NEEDS ADDRESSED AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL IF YOU COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION AND DEFINITELY HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. 
          LINDSAY, OUR NEXT COMMENTER, TODD MANIFOLD. 
          HI. 
          WELCOME. 
          WELCOME TO COUNCIL YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEP. 
          MY NAME'S TODD MANIFOLD. 
          I LIVE AT 79 0 1 RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          I'M BASICALLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN, UH, WAND WOODS BOULEVARD. 
          UM, I'M HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF, BUT ALSO MY NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, I'M GETTING VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE LEVELS ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM THE SPEED TEAM OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, UH, ENGAGEMENT TEAM LATER, BUT, AND THERE'S SOME GOOD FINDINGS THERE, BUT THE NOISE IS ALSO BECOMING A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM. 
          I'VE LIVED IN THAT LOCATION FOR EIGHT YEARS. 
          UM, IT CONTINUES TO GET WORSE. 
          UM, THERE'S THREE MAIN CATEGORIES THAT I SEE. 
          UM, I'M KIND OF AN ENGINEER BY, I AM AN ENGINEER. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONE IS YOU HAVE A GREAT CONVOY OF DUMP TRUCKS THAT GO, UM, UP RIVERSIDE DRIVE BOTH DIRECTIONS STARTING ABOUT 6:30 AM IF THEY'RE LOADED CORRECTLY, UM, THEY'RE RUNNING THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          IT'S JUST A NICE HUM, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THE 5% THAT HAVE TO HAVE THEIR SPECIAL EXHAUST. 
          THEY NEED THE ENGINE BRAKE AND THEY'RE GOING TOO FAST. 
          AND YOU GET THIS B BU BU ALL THE WAY DOWN. 
          OKAY? AGAIN, IT'S 5% OF THEM. 
          IF WE COULD STOP THAT, IT WOULD MAKE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND AGAIN, IT STARTS AT SIX 30 AND IT GOES TO ABOUT THREE 30 EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEKDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS THIS CATEGORY, AND I'LL LET LET THE POLICE CATEGORIZE HIM. 
          IT'S THE GUY WITH THE FOUR CYLINDER HONDA, NISSAN, KIA, WHATEVER IT IS, WITH AFTERMARKET EXHAUST. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CHAINSAW IS GOING 20 MILE AN HOUR, BUT YOU CAN HEAR 'EM FROM MY HOUSE ALL THE WAY TO THE ZOO. 
          OKAY? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE AFTERSCHOOL CROWD OR THE AFTER WORK CROWD, BUT THEY'RE THERE FROM THREE TO SEVEN EVERY DAY. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO A FEW, UH, VERY, VERY LOUD PERFORMANCE CARS THAT SEEM TO WANT TO START THE DRAG RACE AT HARD ROAD AND SEE HOW FAST THEY CAN GET TO THE ZOO. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REGULATION IS. 
          I TRIED TO READ THE REGULATION. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S A DECIBEL QUANTIFICATION IN THERE, BUT IT'S WELL ABOVE 90 DECIBEL THAT THESE GUYS ARE RUNNING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MY FAVORITE GROUP IS THE, THE LADY WAS FROM THE MOTORCYCLE COMPANY EARLIER. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT THEM AS WELL. 
          IT'S THE SMALL 
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MOTORCYCLES THAT SOUND LIKE A REVVED UP CHAINSAW. 
          UM, WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS THEIR FAVORITE NIGHT, ANYTIME BETWEEN EIGHT AND MIDNIGHT. 
          THEY LOVE TO GO DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND SEE HOW LOUD THEY CAN BE. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY ANNOYING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING AND GET UP IN THE MORNING, CUZ IT JUST TAKES ONE AND IT SH SHOCKS YOU OUTTA BED. 
          I LIVE IN A A, AN OLDER HOUSE. 
          I HAVE ABOUT A 12 FOOT BERM IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. 
          I HAVE THE GARAGE PROTECTING MY BEDROOM, AND YOU CAN STILL HEAR 'EM. 
          SO, UM, ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS, WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          I THINK ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT, IF YOU WANNA PUT SIGNS IN OUR YARDS, IF YOU WANNA MEASURE THE DECIBELS, IF YOU WANNA PARK, UH, VEHICLES IN OUR, UH, BERMS SO THEY CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS, WHETHER THEY'RE MANNED OR NOT. 
          I KNOW STAFFING IS A PROBLEM. 
          UH, WE'RE WIDE OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST COMPLAINT ABOUT NOISE ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I KNOW OUR TRANSPORTATION AREAS, IT'S TOP OF THEIR, IT'S TOP OF THEIR PLATE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MEDIATE IT AND TO TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          SO WE DO APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND WE, I THINK CHIEF, YOU, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO CALL IN WHEN THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING TO THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBERS SO THAT THEY CAN KIND OF, UH, KEYHOLE WHEN THE MOST ACTIVITY IS, WHICH WAS HELPS OUR POLICE, UM, YOU KNOW, PATROLS. 
          SO BELIEVE US, WE, WE DO TO APPRECIATE YOU TELLING US THIS, BUT WE DO KNOW RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS AN ISSUE, WHICH WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? UM, OKAY, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          [CONSENT AGENDA ]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          AGENDA. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S, WE ONLY HAD, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE? AND WE JUST, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS THERE A REQUEST TO REMOVE ANY ITEM THIS EVENING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JENNY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DAR? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          POSTPONED 
          [Ordinance 70-22]
TABLE ITEM ORDINANCE 70 DASH 22 AMENDING ZONING CODE SECTION 1 53 0.074 REGARDING ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURES AND AMENDING ZONINGS DISTRICT SECTIONS 1, 5 3 0.0 7 4 1 5, 3 0.038 B FOUR C 17, AND 3 31 1 5, 3 0.04 C NINE, AND H 1 5, 3 0.04, SIX C FOUR E, AND F 1 5 3 0.059 C FOUR J 1 5, 3 0.17, TWO C FOUR J TO ADDRESS LANGUAGE REGARDING RENEWABLE ENERGY EQUIPMENT FOR SOLAR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, JENNY. 
          THAT WAS QUITE A FEW NUMBERS THERE, . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING IS FROM, UM, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, TAMMY NEVILLE. 
          THANK YOU, AND I APOLOGIZE, JENNY. 
          THIS IS AN EFFORT THAT, UH, PLANNING HAS BEEN WORKING WITH NOT ONLY CITY COUNCIL, BUT OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC TO, UH, GENERATE, UH, CODE LANGUAGE RELATED TO RENEWABLE ENERGY, SPECIFICALLY TO SOLAR ENERGY. 
          UM, THIS EFFORT'S BEEN, UH, TRANSPIRING FOR APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AND A HALF, AND WE'RE, UM, THANKFUL FOR CITY COUNCIL IN ALLOWING US TO APPROACH THE SUBJECT. 
          JUST AS A GENERAL OVERVIEW FOR THE, UM, CODE MODIFICATION, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR THE CITY TO EXPRESS THEIR COMMITMENT TO RENEWABLE ENERGY SPECIFICALLY AGAIN TO, UH, SOLAR ENERGY. 
          UM, IT DOES DELINEATE BETWEEN, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          AND THE OBJECTIVE IS TO ALIGN, UM, WITH SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          WE'VE WORKED, UH, HOLISTICALLY WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY GROUP, UM, TO ENSURE THAT OUR EFFORTS ALIGN WITH THEIR EFFORTS. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE, UH, INTEREST IN SOLAR ENERGY, AND THAT HAS BEEN SPURRED BY FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, BOTH AT A FEDERAL LEVEL AND A STATE LEVEL. 
          AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE UNTIL 2035. 
          SO WE ANTICIPATE THIS, THIS WILL BE A CON CONTINUAL CONVERSATION THAT WE'LL BE HAVING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          AND OF COURSE, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR REGULATIONS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A PUBLIC INPUT. 
          SO IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND, THIS ILLUSTRATES THE TIME COMMITMENT THAT, UM, THE CITY HAS, UH, PUT INTO SOLAR ENERGY. 
          AND NOT ONLY THE TIME COMMITMENT, BUT THE, UH, VARIOUS BODIES THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, WHICH 
          [00:40:01]
STARTED IN THE LATTER PART OF, UH, 2022. 
          IT INVOLVED CSAC, WHICH WAS A, THE FIRST FORMAL GROUP THAT WE ADDRESSED. 
          IT THEN PROCEEDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHERE WE HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          AND AGAIN, ALL OF THESE ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, THAT THE, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC CAN ATTEND. 
          THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY FOUR MEETINGS THAT WERE CONDUCTED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COM COMMISSION LEVEL. 
          IT THEN PROGRESSED TO THE FIRST READING WHERE WE INTRODUCED CODE LANGUAGE TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NOVEMBER OF 2022. 
          UM, SINCE NOVEMBER, OUR ENERGY AND OUR OPPORTUNITIES HAVE BEEN ABOUT RELAYING INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC, GETTING INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC, AND ADDRESSING THE COMMENTS AS BEST WE CAN FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          UM, THAT INCLUDES WORKING AGAIN WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS GROUP IN JANUARY. 
          UM, THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH NOT ONLY TO DO A SURVEY THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO HOAS, UM, BUT THEY ALSO DID A CITYWIDE SURVEY, LITERALLY A MAILING FOR EVERY, UH, PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN, UM, TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT SOLAR ENERGY. 
          AND OUR RESPONSE RATE WAS EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU, LINDSAY. 
          UM, THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY, UH, 900 RESPONSES TO THAT, TO THAT SURVEY, WHICH IS, UM, A GREAT RESPONSE LEVEL. 
          UM, IT THEN PROCEEDED INTO SOME WORK SESSIONS THAT, UM, CITY COUNCIL STARTED TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES FOR THE CODE LANGUAGE. 
          AND THAT PROCEEDED, UM, FROM JANUARY TO MAY OF THIS YEAR. 
          I DID WANNA TAKE A BRIEF, UM, POINT TO, UM, IDENTIFY SOME OF THE RESEARCH EFFORTS THAT WE'VE DONE AS A CITY, UH, REGARDING THE SUBJECT IN GENERAL. 
          WE STARTED WORKING WITH PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT DEAL WITH SOLAR ENERGY, UM, ENERGY PROVIDERS, REGIONAL PARTNERS. 
          WE, WE WERE ALWAYS IN, UM, UH, WORKING WITH MORSEY AND, UH, L U C ARE TWO OF OUR, OUR PARTNERS THAT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH, AS WELL AS ANY TYPE OF ADVOCACY GROUPS THAT WERE WILLING AND ABLE TO TALK TO US ABOUT SOLAR ENERGY AND BASICALLY EDUCATING US ABOUT WHAT SOLAR ENERGY AND REGULATIONS WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING. 
          WE ALSO BENCHMARKED OURSELVES TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WAS NOT ONLY WITHIN THE CENTRAL OHIO REGION, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF OHIO. 
          WE RESEARCHED, UM, ALL OF OUR PLANNED DISTRICTS TO IDENTIFY ANY TYPE OF REGULATIONS THAT WOULD EXTEND BEYOND ZONING REGULATIONS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, UM, IF THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE INSTALLATION OF SOLAR PANELS. 
          WE, UM, DID AN EXTENSIVE, UH, RESEARCH AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THIS EFFORT IDENTIFYING ALL OF THE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN THAT ARE EITHER WITHIN AN HOA OR A CIVIC ASSOCIATION. 
          AND I'LL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE AMONGST ONE OF THOSE TWO. 
          AND THE IMPACTS THAT IT WOULD, UM, HAVE ON YOU IF CONSIDERING SOLAR ENERGY. 
          WE'VE RESEARCHED ACCREDITATION PROGRAMS, SPECIFICALLY SOUL SMARTT, OF WHICH WE ARE, UM, WORKING WITH TO, UM, ENTER THEIR PROGRAM. 
          WE'VE DONE COST ANALYSIS. 
          WE'VE RE RESEARCHED CO-OP PROGRAMS SO WE CAN GIVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF, UH, OPTIONS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO, UM, ACTUALLY INSTALL SOLAR ENERGY ON THEIR SPECIFIC BUILDINGS, BUT WANNA WORK WITH THEIR COMMUNITY TO DO SO. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE, WORKING WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY GROUP AND SPECIFICALLY, AND NOT LASTLY, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IGS WHO HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, SOLAR ENERGY AND HOW IT CAN HELP PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH US TO IDENTIFY PERHAPS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY THEMSELVES TO INSTALL SOLAR UH, PANELS. 
          BUT IN GENERAL, AGAIN, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS HAS BEEN A, A VERY FOCUSED EFFORT ON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WE COMPLIMENT THE CITY FOR, FOR, UH, APPROACHING THAT SUBJECT. 
          SO, CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS AND HOAS. 
          THIS WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD WITH CITY COUNCIL TRYING TO ADDRESS NOT ONLY WHAT, UM, PARAMETERS MIGHT EXTEND BEYOND ZONING REGULATIONS. 
          RIGHT NOW, WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IS AN UPDATE TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN ZONING CODE. 
          AND THAT IS A ZONING ENFORCEMENT, UM, ISSUE. 
          BUT THERE ARE OTHER, UM, REGULATIONS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS SHOULD BE AWARE OF, UM, SPECIFICALLY DEED REGULATIONS. 
          UM, SO WE IDENTIFIED WHERE IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN THERE ARE HOAS VERSUS CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS. 
          AND AGAIN, THE, THE IMPORTANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO HOAS, IF THEY DO HAVE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT SOLAR ENERGY, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AFOR ENFORCED ABOVE AND BEYOND ZONING REGULATIONS. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF A PARALLEL TRACK, IF YOU WILL. 
          CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS ARE MORE OF AN ORGANIZED BODY. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS, BUT THEY DO HAVE, UM, THEY COULD HAVE REGULATIONS 
          [00:45:02]
IDENTIFYING, UM, SOLAR ENERGY, BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE SAME ENFORCEABILITY. 
          I MENTIONED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO JOIN THE SOUL SMARTT, UH, PROGRAM. 
          AGAIN, IT'S AN ACCREDIT ACCREDITATION PROGRAM THAT'S A, A NATIONAL LEVEL. 
          UM, WE'VE RESEARCHED, UH, NOT ONLY WHAT THEY COULD DO FOR US TO ADVANCE OUR REGULATIONS, BUT SIMPLY THAT WE, THEY COULD HELP US EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT OUR REGULATIONS SAY. 
          SO AGAIN, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE AS EQUIPPED AS THEY CAN BE TO MAKE THIS A DECISION FOR THEMSELVES. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA IDENTIFYING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SOLE SMART PROGRAM WHO IS ENROLLED IN THIS PROGRAM AND WHAT RANKINGS THAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE AT THE FOUR, THE TOP OF THE CHART WHO HAVE SUCCEEDED TO THE GOLD STATUS. 
          UM, WHEN AND THE CITY ENTERS THIS PROGRAM, WE WILL ENTER AT A BRONZE LEVEL, AND WE'VE OF COURSE WILL CONTINUE ACCOMMODATIONS ABOVE THAT. 
          THE OTHER, UM, DISCUSSION POINT THAT'S TRANSPIRED ALONG THE DISCUSSION OF SOLAR IS, UM, BASED ON OUR WEATHER CONDITIONS, WEATHER SOLAR'S EVEN AN A FEASIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          AND WHAT WE FOUND IS, IN FACT IT IS, UM, ALTHOUGH WE DO, UM, COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES INCLUDING INDIANAPOLIS AND CHICAGO, UM, BASICALLY THE COMPARISON IS THAT OVER THE PAST DECADE, THERE'S ENOUGH, UM, ENERGY CONSUMPTION THAT IT WOULD MAKE IT A WORTHY OPPORTUNITY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO THEN PROCEED, UM, AND INSTALLATION OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE ALSO WANTED TO, UM, IDENTIFY THE TWO MAIN TYPES OF SOLAR INSTALLATION, AND I'M GONNA USE PROBABLY MY TERMINOLOGY, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS A TRADITIONAL SOLAR INSTALLATION. 
          AND THAT IS AN INSTALLATION PRACTICE WHERE THE SOLAR PANELS ACTUALLY ARE INSTALLED ON TOP OF A ROOF. 
          IT'S NOT THE SAME. 
          UH, IT LITERALLY SITS ON TOP AND IT'S NOT, UM, THE SAME MATERIAL TYPE. 
          UH, WE, THIS IS THE MORE TRADITIONAL OF, UH, SOLAR ENERGY AND PROBABLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN FOR THE MOST PART IN THE, UM, INSTALLATION IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          UM, WE HAVE TALKED TO COMPANIES ABOUT WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE FOR THESE INSTALLATION OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF SPACING REQUIREMENTS THEY WOULD RECOMMEND BETWEEN THE ROOF AND THE PANELS THEMSELVES TO AVOID ANY TYPE OF, UH, MAKING IT, MAKING THEM AS LEAST VISIBLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, THAT NUMBER IS FOR, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A BIT, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT, THAT ALLOW 18 INCHES. 
          SO, SO THAT TALKS TO HOW TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING AND HOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THOSE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO FOUND THAT THERE'S, UM, MULTIPLE WAYS FOR CONCEALING ANY TYPE OF WIRING OR OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE SOLAR PANELS. 
          AND OF COURSE, JUST ADVANCEMENTS IN THE COLOR TONES OF THE PANELS THEMSELVES. 
          THE SECOND IS, UH, SLIGHTLY MORE INNOVATIVE. 
          AND THIS IS ACTUALLY AN INTEGRATED PRODUCT WHERE THE SOLAR PANEL IS LITERALLY ON TOP OF THE ROOF. 
          UM, IT CAN ACTUALLY BE THE ACTUAL ROOF MATERIAL ITSELF OR SIMPLY ON TOP OF THE ROOF. 
          IT'S A SLIGHTLY SEAMLESS, UH, LOOK AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE. 
          UM, AND THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE ADVANCING. 
          SO WE DID WANNA BRING THIS TO THE FOREFRONT OF COUNCIL'S ATTENTION. 
          UM, THIS HAS MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, REFLECT A VARIETY OF, UM, ROOF MATERIALS SUCH AS SLATE AND, AND TILE, WHICH WE DO HAVE IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND ALLOWS FOR MORE VARIETY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO CONSIDER. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING, UM, CITY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS TONIGHT IS DRAFT CODE LANGUAGE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO SOLAR ENERGY WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION, OF COURSE, INCLUDE AN INTENT, UM, SECTION. 
          THIS INTENT SECTION IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          IT TALKS TO THE, IT IT GENERALLY SPEAKS TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. 
          UM, THIS INTENT SECTION IS IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE ENHANCED THE LANGUAGE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE SECTION. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY THAT THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL OBJECTIVE BY THE CITY OF DUBLIN TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY, YET STILL MAINTAINING A HIGH LEVEL OF HIGH STANDARDS THAT WE PROMOTE WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          UM, WE'VE GIVEN CONSIDERABLE, UH, ATTENTION TO LOCATION AND CONFIGURATION, MATERIAL CHOICES AND MAINTENANCE FOR, FOR SOLAR. 
          UM, ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH DURING MOST OF OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS IS LOCATION. 
          WE HAVE PRO PROVISIONS, UM, IN 
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THE DRAFT CODE LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS, UH, SOLAR PANELS TO BE LOCATED AT THE SIDE OR REAR OF A BUILDING. 
          IT DOES ALLOW FOR INSTANCES WHERE SOLAR PANELS COULD BE CONSTRUCTED TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IF, UM, A PROPERTY OWNER IS ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IT, THAT PROVIDES THE GREATEST EFFICIENCY FOR THE SOLAR, UH, PRODUCTION. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S AN ADVANCEMENT THAT WE'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERING THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, THE OTHER OBJECTIVE THAT WE'VE HAD TO ADDRESS, THERE ARE FIVE DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN CURRENTLY THAT HAVE ZONING REGULATIONS IN PLACE FOR SOLAR. 
          SO WE BASICALLY IDENTIFIED WHAT THOSE FIVE DISTRICTS ARE AND WHAT THOSE REGULATIONS SAY IN EACH ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS. 
          AND THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO ENSURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THOSE DISTRICTS ARE MODIFIED SO THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY AMONGST THE ENTIRE CITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UM, AREAS BEING DEVELOPED IN DIFFERENT PATTERNS, UM, BASED ON LOCATION. 
          SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE FIVE DISTRICTS, UM, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT, UH, THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE M U R DISTRICT AND THE TEFL DISTRICT. 
          UM, THERE ARE MINOR DIFFERENCES IN THOSE DISTRICTS OF WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO AS PART OF THIS RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE DID, UM, WANT TO REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING UPDATED. 
          SO WE'VE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO CITY COUNCIL THAT ONCE THAT PLAN GETS ADOPTED, WE WILL COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE ADOPTION OF THAT, UM, PLAN AND ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY OR ADDRESS WHETHER WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENTLY REGULATING SOLAR ENERGY. 
          AND WE'RE MEETING THE OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE SUBJECT. 
          UM, WE DO DIFFERENTIATE, OR THE CODE DOES DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN GROUND MOUNTED AND ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT. 
          THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. 
          WE DO ALLOW GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT IN OUR DRAFT CODE, UM, TO THE SIDE AR REAR OF STRUCTURES IN NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT WE ALLOW THAT USE TO BE AS AN ACCESSORY USE OPPOSED TO A PRIMARY USE IN TERMS OF BUILDING OR ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE ALLOWING TO THE SIDE AR REAR UNLESS A PROPERTY OWNER CAN IDENTIFY THAT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING PROVIDES THE MOST EFFICIENCY. 
          AND WE'VE PROVIDED LANGUAGE THAT ADDRESSES THAT, THAT CONSIDERATION. 
          AS ALWAYS, WE PUT AESTHETIC QUALIFICATIONS WITHIN THE CODE, UM, REGARDING, UM, THE, UM, HOW SOLAR PANELS ARE INSTALLED, WHERE THEY EXTEND AND WHERE THEY CANNOT EXTEND AND CONFIGURATIONS, UM, RE REGARDING THE PANELS SO THAT THERE'S A CONSISTENT PATTERN FOR THE PANEL INSTALLATION AND THAT IT'S NOT, UM, IT DOESN'T DRAW UNNECESSARY ATTENTION TO THE ROOF LINE. 
          IN THE FIVE DISTRICTS THAT I'VE, UH, TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY, THE MOST, UH, PREDOMINANT, UH, PROVISION IS THE ALLOWANCE OF 18 INCHES. 
          AGAIN, BEF, UH, BETWEEN THE ROOF AND THE PANELS, WE'VE REDUCED THAT TO SIX INCHES AND THAT WILL MON WITH THIS MODIFICATION THAT WILL BE MODIFIED IN THE DISTRICTS. 
          UM, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DID HAVE SOME, UH, LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWED ADDITIONAL FOR, UH, PROPERTY LINE SETBACKS. 
          UM, ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS WILL DEFAULT TO THE CURRENT CODE SECTION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ADOPTION TONIGHT. 
          AGAIN, FOR KIT, UM, IN SPECIFICALLY THE WEST INNOVATION DISTRICT AND THE TECH TECH FLEX DISTRICT. 
          UM, WE ARE AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO ADDRESS, UM, SOLAR ENERGY AS A PRINCIPLE USE IN THOSE DISTRICTS. 
          CURRENTLY, YOU CAN DO SOLAR ENERGY AS A PRIMARY USE. 
          NOW THERE'S A LOT OF QUALIFICATIONS TO THAT STATEMENT, BUT CURRENTLY THAT IS A PERMITTED USE. 
          WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THIS CURRENT LANGUAGE IS YOU WOULD STILL BE PERMITTED THAT USE, BUT IT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY USE. 
          SO IN AN ATTEMPT TO ENSURE THAT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE DID, UH, MAILINGS TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE INVOLVED, UM, AND EXPLAINED WHAT THIS CODE MODIFICATION WOULD MEAN FOR THEIR PROPERTIES. 
          TO DATE, I'VE TALKED TO TWO PROPERTY OWNERS OF WHICH DID NOT EXPRESS CONCERNS. 
          THEY SIMPLY WANTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE CODE MODIFICATION. 
          SO WITH THAT, I REALLY WANT TO ONE, THANK OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WHO HAS HELPED US, UH, NAVIGATE THIS PROCESS, OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL WHO HAVE ALLOWED US, UM, TO TAKE THIS ENDEAVOR ON. 
          AND, UH, WITH RESPECT, WE WOULD, UM, ASK FOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 70 22. 
          THANK YOU, DAM, THAT'S SO MUCH RESEARCH. 
          IT DOESN'T SEEM AS IF THERE'S A STONE LEFT UNTURNED ABOUT SOLAR. 
          UM, I'M WONDERING 
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IF THERE IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY. 
          OH, DO WE HAVE ONE? ALL RIGHT, IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          HI, I'M NATHAN CACK. 
          I LIVE AT 57 80 CLEARFIELD LANE OVER AT, UH, BRIDGTON. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, YOU'RE ALLOWING FORWARD FACING SOLAR CELLS TO BE PLACED ON THE HOUSE AS LONG AS IT SHOW, WE SHOW THAT WE GET A HIGHER EFFICIENCY RATE FROM THAT SIDE? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE IS NO RESTRICTIONS ON PLACEMENT ON DIRECTION OF THE SOLAR CELL SO LONG AS EFFICIENCY RATES ARE CONSIDERED? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S, IT'S, UH, THE BALLPARK FOR ME. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA? ITEM ON SOLAR PANELS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SCENE AND HEARING NONE. 
          UM, COUNSEL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FOR TAMMY? UM, FIRST OF ALL, TAMMY, UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND AS, UH, THE MAYOR SAID, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH A A LOT OF WORK AND I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC 900 RESPONSES. 
          UM, AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE, THE PUBLIC FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT AS, UH, OUR COMMITMENT TO BE MOST SUSTAINABLE, THIS HAD TO BE PART OF THAT. 
          AND SO I KNOW IT'S NOT BEEN EASY. 
          SO, UH, I THANK YOU. 
          I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED UPDATES CUZ AS YOU BEGAN THIS CONVERSATION, YOU SAID A LOT HAS HAPPENED RIGHT OVER THE LAST, UM, YEAR AND MORE WILL CONTINUE. 
          SO CONTINUED UPDATES IN BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL. 
          I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          SO BACK TO THE COMMENT ABOUT EFFICIENCY. 
          HOW WILL THAT BE DETERMINED? WILL THE RESIDENT BE REQUIRED OR ASKED TO BRING SOME, I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE PROCESS STEPS RELATED TO THAT? THAT'S QUESTION ONE AND I'LL ASK THE SECOND ONE AFTER THAT. 
          WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? THANK YOU. 
          EXCELLENT QUESTION. 
          SO WHAT WE FOUND WITH WORKING WITH THE COMPANIES AND QUITE FRANKLY, PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN, TYPICALLY A COMPANY WILL PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          AND THOSE OPTIONS WILL START AT, LET'S JUST SAY OPTION A. 
          THAT GIVES YOU THE LOWEST EFFICIENCY AND A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND THEN IT'LL, IT'LL PROGRESS TO YOUR HIGHEST EFFICIENCY. 
          SO THOSE OPTIONS ARE TYPICALLY LAID OUT AS PART OF THE NORMAL PROCESS OF INSTALLING PANELS. 
          AND SO A PROPERTY OWNER GETS TO IDENTIFY, IF I HAVE 20 PANELS AND THEY'RE LOCATED HERE, I'M GONNA GET THIS MUCH EFFICIENCY AND IT'S GONNA BE AT THIS EXPENSE RATE. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, THAT INCREASES. 
          SO THOSE ARE USUALLY, UM, PART OF THE PROCESS OF INSTALLATION. 
          SO, UM, WE WILL USE THOSE, THOSE OR THAT INFORMATION TO DETERMINE, UM, WHETHER IT'S NECESSARY. 
          GREAT. 
          SO ON THE, ON OUR WEBSITE SOMEWHERE, THIS WILL BE ARTICULATED SO THAT RESIDENTS KNOW WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS, AND I'M GUESSING THE SAME THING ALONG WITH, UH, COLOR, COLOR MATCHING TO THE ROOF AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, RIGHT. 
          WILL BE OUTLINED. 
          SO, UM, STAY TUNED. 
          UM, MY SECOND QUESTION THEN, AS YOU WENT THROUGH, UM, ALL THE SECTIONS IN TOWN WHERE THERE WERE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, SOME DIFFERENCES TO THE CODE, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. 
          SO THAT WILL ALL NOW BE STANDARDIZED, RIGHT? THERE WON'T, UNLESS THERE IS AN HOA WHICH IS ABOVE AN, IN A PARALLEL PATH, AS YOU DISCUSSED, ALL HOMES, WHETHER IT'S IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, ANY DISTRICT ARE NOW GONNA BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD HERE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S EXACTLY TRUE, YES. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS, UM, UH, AGAIN, A LOT OF WORK AND, AND APPRECIATE, UM, THE CONSISTENCY AND THE, UM, IF YOU WILL, EQUITY TO THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU TAMMY, AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ALL YOUR WORK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? CHRIS? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          UH, ONE, I I THINK TO FOLLOW UP ON KATHY'S QUESTION IS I READ IT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          IF YOU, IF YOUR BUILDING WAS TO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT, YOU COULD NOT HAVE THE ADDITIONAL SIX INCHES TO PUT YOUR, SO I, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS NO, BECAUSE IT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT RESTRICTION IN ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF, OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO WITH THESE, WITH THESE REGULATIONS, THAT WOULD CHANGE. 
          AND SO THE SAME HEIGHT RESTRICTION THAT WE WOULD APPLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN WOULD APPLY TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, A, AROUND GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, AND UNDER THREE, UH, ARTICLE B SAYS, GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SHALL, AND THEN B SAYS NOT P B PERMITTED FORWARD OF A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OR ALONG A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
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AND SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT COVERING PARKING AREAS RELATIVE TO THESE FACILITIES. 
          NOW MOST OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OR OFFICE DISTRICTS HAVE, THE PARKING WOULD BE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING OR A STREET SIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          SO THIS ITEM B WOULD PRECLUDE THEM FROM PUTTING, UM, SOLAR INSTALLATIONS OVER THEIR PARKING SURFACE. 
          AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? YOU ARE, YES. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS OUR INTENT. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LARGEST SOLAR INSTALLATIONS, UH, IN THE MIDWEST IS AT CHASE, UM, AT POLARIS. 
          AND THEY COVERED THEIR PARKING AREAS WITH, UH, SOLAR PANELS. 
          THEY'VE HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD RESULTS WITH THAT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DISCOURAGE FROM OUR CORPORATE RESIDENTS. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE A REALLY GREAT PLACE. 
          IT DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS, RIGHT? IT HELPS WITH COOLING, UM, FROM RADIANT ASPHALT HEAT, UH, WHICH WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE SOME GLOBAL WARMING ISSUES. 
          UM, IT WOULD ALLOW THEM A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SPACE TO COLLECT SOLAR, UM, AND NOT USING UP GREEN FIELDS AND OTHER AREAS TO DO SO. 
          UM, AND ALSO IT WOULD KEEP THE CARS, UH, OUT OF WEATHER AND INCLEMENT CONDITIONS. 
          SO I, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THREE B FROM THAT BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT WE WANT TO ALLOW THAT, UM, PROVIDED IT NAVIGATES THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, THAT THEY ALL WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO SO. 
          THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE MIGHT HAVE THE SAME . 
          UM, I GUESS, AND I THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE MOST, UM, APPROPRIATE AREAS THAT FOR SOLAR ENERGY. 
          I GUESS THE PART OF THAT STATEMENT THAT I WOULD ASK, WOULD WE STILL KEEP THAT IT, THAT THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY? WE WOULD STILL WANT, YOU WOULD STILL WANT THAT LANGUAGE, IS THAT TRUE? I THINK SO BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING PERMITTED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ANYHOW, THAT IT WOULD BE VACATED GROUND, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER TREES OR SOMETHING ELSE IN IT, TYPICALLY IN THE, IN THE CITY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF YOU, THANK YOU, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          AND WE CAN, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THREE A, I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO MODIFY THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT DICTATES LOCATION AS WELL. 
          SO WE CAN, AND D WOULD LIKELY AS WELL, I, I B IS KIND OF THE HEART OF IT, AND THEN THERE'S SOME AUXILIARY, YOU KNOW, COLLATERAL DAMAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, MEET THE REQUIRED SETBACKS. 
          SO MOST OF THESE BUILDINGS HAVE A SETBACK AND YOU WOULD HAVE A STRUCTURE IN A SENSE FORWARD OF THE BUILDING SETBACK. 
          SO I, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A, A SERIES OF MODIFICATIONS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN HERE. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEES KIND OF THE LIGHTNING ROD, THOSE ARE EASY MODIFICATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHY, WHY WE'RE ON THAT SAME TOPIC, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT CHANGE AS WELL. 
          UM, I THINK WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ADDRESSING THE RESIDENTIAL ROOF MOUNTED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK WE ARE STILL LACKING ON THE ADDRESSING THE COMMERCIAL, UM, ABOUT THE PARKING STRUCTURES OVER, YOU KNOW, OVER THE SOLAR PANELS, OVER THE PARKING. 
          UM, IF THAT COULD ALSO MEAN AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. 
          LIKE THERE'S TWO TYPES, RIGHT? YOU COULD HAVE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, YOU COULD HAVE A CANOPY THAT YOU PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, OUR CODE A LOT OF TIMES DOESN'T ALLOW ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE FRONT OF A BUILDING. 
          SO NOW WE'RE PRECLUDING THE SOLAR PANELS, BUT IF YOU BUY THE EXPENSIVE, THE ONES LIKE CHASE HAVE, WHICH ARE TECHNICALLY STANDALONE CANOPY SOLAR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I, I THINK WE HAVE, UM, SOME QUESTIONS AROUND, I GUESS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT MIGHT HAVE SOLAR PANELS ON, UM, IN THESE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND WHERE THOSE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IS IT CON, IS IT BEING, I GUESS, COUNTED AS GROUND MOUNTED OR IS IT A ROOF MOUNTED ON AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE? AND, AND MAYBE THEY'RE, MAYBE THEY'RE RENEWABLE ENERGY CON, UM, CAPTURE, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT SAYING, MAYBE WE NAME THEM SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, THAT THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOLAR COLLECTION OR WE WANNA ALLOW LIKE SOLAR COVERED PARKING WITH SOLAR, SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT WITH THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. RIGHT. 
          UM, I HAVE MORE ON GROUND MOUNTED, BUT I'LL LET CHRIS CONTINUE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, CUZ IT WAS THE SAME TOP. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          LET'S FINISH GROUND MOUNTED AND WE CAN MOVE ON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO RELATED 
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TO GROUND MOUNTED TOO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND THIS WOULD, I'D HAVE TO GET, WE'D HAVE TO GET A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL, BUT WHY WE WOULDN'T ALLOW IT IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE R ONE DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS WHERE WE HAVE SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES WHO COULD BE PRIME CANDIDATES TO USE SOLAR. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
          IF THEY COULD MEET THESE, WE WOULD RE SAY, NO YOU CAN'T. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE AN R ONE, YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          SO I REALLY THINK WE SHOULDN'T RESTRICT THIS TO SAY IT CAN'T BE IN RESIDENTIAL. 
          I MEAN, IT'S PHYSICALLY GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT ON A SMALL SINGLE FAMILY HOME RESIDENTIAL LOT IN RESIDENTIAL CAUSE IT WON'T MEET THE SETBACKS AND THE REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF. 
          UM, BUT I WOULDN'T WANNA PRECLUDE OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR CHURCHES OR THE RESIDENT WHO HAS, YOU KNOW, FIVE ACRES WHO MIGHT WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. 
          SO I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'VE NOT, I KNOW I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE. 
          I'M ASKING ONE MORE TIME IF I COULD GET SUPPORT ON THAT. 
          I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW IT. 
          UM, I WOULD, IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OVER HARD SURFACES, BUT, BUT MAYBE NOT OVER, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP YOUR NOT DRIVEWAYS, WHICH WOULD OPEN UP THE PARKING, UH, AREAS OF THOSE ENTITIES, BUT PROBABLY NOT IN OVER GREEN AREAS. 
          SO MAYBE WE COULD DELINEATE HARD SURFACE AREAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS. 
          AND THAT COMES TO ANOTHER QUESTION RELATED TO THAT IS WE, WE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY THAT IT HAS TO BE OVER A HARD SURFACE, UM, ON UNDER, UH, DE IT HAS TO BE UNDER, UNDER A HARDSCAPE SURFACE. 
          DOES THAT MEAN AN EXISTING HARDSCAPE SURFACE OR COULD THEY COME AND POUR A CONCRETE PAD AND PUT SOLAR PANELS ON IT? AND I, SO WE NEED TO, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DETERMINE. 
          IS IT ON YOUR PROPERTY YOU HAVE AN EXISTING HARDSCAPE AND YOU WERE GONNA LET THEM MOUNT PANELS THERE? OR COULD THEY SATISFY THAT BY CREATING A NEW HARD SURFACE AND PUTTING PANELS ON IT? WELL, THAT WOULD GET TRICKY FOR YOUR PERMEABILITY AND YOUR . 
          YOU, YOU, YOU WOULD, THAT WOULD MAYBE WOULD PULL ANOTHER LEVEL OR LEVER THAT WOULD, I GUESS THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT, UM, POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEONE MIGHT WANNA DO THAT. 
          UM, RELATED TO GROUNDING. 
          SO IT SOUNDS AS IF, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU, IT'S MORE THE CANOPY PARKING STRUCTURES AND THESE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALLOW, BUT THEN THERE'S PIECES AND PARTS WHERE GROUND MOUNTED ON ON HARD SURFACES IS NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD PREFER. 
          AND WE JUST NEED TO GET THIS CLEAR. 
          UM, JENNIFER, I WOULD ASK YOU AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, UM, THIS WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT AMENDING AT THIS POINT? DO WE WAIT FOR THIS INFORMATION TO COME BACK? HOW DO WE, CAN WE FORWARD THIS ORDINANCE AT ALL OR DO WE WAIT UNTIL THIS IS, THESE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED? SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO INCORPORATE THESE SUGGESTED REVISIONS, UM, TO THE EXTENT WE COULD GROUP THEM TOGETHER IF THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. 
          UM, BUT OTHERWISE WE NEED TO TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL VOTE UNLESS WE CAN COME TO CONSENSUS ON A LIST OF REVISIONS. 
          BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION. 
          WE CAN HAVE THE DIRECTION. 
          IF STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT DIRECTION, THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND MAKE THAT AND IT CAN BE, UH, APPROVED TONIGHT. 
          AND IN THE APPROVAL TONIGHT, IF YOU, IF STAFF COMES BACK AND THERE'S STILL QUESTIONS, CAN THOSE AMENDMENTS THEN BE MADE? OR WILL IT BE, WILL BE PAST THIS BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE APPROVED THIS? NO, IT WOULD NOT COME BACK. 
          IT WOULD NOT COME BACK. 
          THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          SO, UM, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THESE SUGGESTIONS ARE ADEQUATE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, I I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONVERSATIONS OF THE PARKING LOT AND THE PARKING COVERAGE. 
          I, AMY, I, I'M, I'M CAUTIOUS ABOUT THE GROUND MOUNTED AT THIS POINT, AND IT'S MORE ABOUT PROXIMITY OF LOCATION ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO TO ME IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A FAIRLY LARGE PARCEL. 
          AND THO AND THOSE PANELS WOULD NEED TO BE NEAR IT. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A SETBACK. 
          I, I WORRY ABOUT HAVING GROUND MOUNTED, UM, PANELS NEAR, FOR INSTANCE, MY PROPERTY BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNER CH IS GOING TO PUT IT AS FAR BACK AS THEY CAN FROM THEIR HOME, ET CETERA, SO FORTH. 
          SO THAT IS MY APPREHENSION IS MORE AESTHETICS. 
          SO FOR ME, I WOULD HAVE TO BE CONVINCED OF SETBACKS AND, AND 
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ALL OF THOSE THINGS BEFORE I COULD ON THE RESIDENTIAL ONE. 
          AND IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF IT, IT'S, IT'S A PROXIMITY THING. 
          IT'S A LOCATION THING FOR ME. 
          SO I, I WOULD WANNA SEE SOME MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ONE. 
          BUT THE OTHER ONE I, I THINK MAKES GOOD SENSE. 
          THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE. 
          UH, I, I WOULD SHARE KATHY'S SENTIMENT. 
          UM, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, GROUND MOUNTED, YOU KNOW, PARKING COVERAGE FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER AMHERST GROOM STATED. 
          UM, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME TREPIDATION ABOUT GROUND MOUNTED, UH, ON INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY, UM, PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, FOR THE REASON THAT KATHY STATED, UM, CUZ THEY, YOU KNOW, FOLKS ARE JUST GONNA BE INCLINED TO MOVE THOSE AS FAR AWAY FROM THEIR DWELLING AND CLOSER TO THEIR NEIGHBORS DWELLING. 
          SO I, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, BUT, BUT OVERALL, I, I'M, I'M FALLING IN THAT SAME CATEGORY. 
          UM, AND, AND GREAT WORK BY THE WAY. 
          THIS HAS BEEN VERY TEDIOUS AND CHALLENGING. 
          SO, UM, GREAT JOB TO, TO YOU TAMMY, AND TO STAFF. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          SO I HAVE ONE OTHER THING ON THE GROUND MOUNTED WHICH MIGHT, UM, RELATE TO THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE NO PROVISIONS FOR ANY TYPE OF SCREENING OF GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT. 
          SO I'M THINKING THE STANDALONE PANELS ON THE CONCRETE PAD BACK IN THE CORNER. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IF YOU READ THROUGH THE CODE UNDER GEOTHERMAL, WE DO, WE HAVE A LANGUAGE ABOUT WE WILL, THEY WILL BE CAMOUFLAGED TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN STILL USE THE EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, SO I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO SAY YES, YOU CAN HAVE A GROUND MOUNTED ARRAY OF SOLAR PANELS, YOU KNOW, AT THE BACK END PROPERTY OF THE SCHOOL OR THE CHURCH, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SCREENED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF IT'S SCREENED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY PUT A FENCE AROUND IT AND THEY PUT SOME AVITA AROUND THE EDGE OF IT, YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? OR ARE WE JUST GONNA SAY, SORRY, CHURCH AND SCHOOL, YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          I WOULD SAY IN THAT INSTANCE, THE CHURCH AND SCHOOL PUT IT ON THE ROOF, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. 
          OR PUT IT IN THE PARKING GARAGE. 
          I, I JUST, I I CAN JUST SEE A PLETHORA OF CHALLENGES WHEN THE ARIV ID IS NO LONGER WORKING, WHICH IS, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA REVISIT THIS IN A YEAR. 
          SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT, WE CHANGE IT THEN AND THINGS CHANGE. 
          I JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          THAT SCREENING IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE GROUND COVERAGE UNDER ANY OF THE GROUND MOUNTING EQUIPMENT AT ALL RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, THEY COULD TECHNICALLY MAKE A HARD SCAPE SURFACE AND PUT SOLAR PANELS ON IT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO SCREEN IT AT ALL RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I'M, I'M SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE WE CONSIDER AT LEAST SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO SCREEN THEM TO SOME EXTENT, BUT NOT IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS YOU'RE TALKING NO, JUST THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, EVEN IF WE DON'T EXTEND IT. 
          BUT I'M SAYING AS WRITTEN NOW, THERE'S NO SCREENING REQUIREMENT, BUT THERE IS UNDER THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE, UNDER THE GEOTHERMAL STUFF, IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN PAID ATTENTION, BUT THERE WAS, SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT FOR THE GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF SCREENING. 
          I, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          THE DIFFICULTY WOULD BE IN PARKING LOT AREAS, HOW YOU WOULD, YOU'RE RIGHT, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          IF IT WAS, I I GUESS WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING, IF THE, IF THEY USE IT AS PARKING COVERAGE, THAT'S A TOTALLY, MAYBE DIFFERENT CATEGORY AND MAYBE WE CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE. 
          YEAH. 
          VERSUS I'M SOLAR CANOPIES OR SOMETHING. 
          SOLAR CANOPIES. 
          I'M THINKING THE STANDALONE SOLAR PANEL, A GROUP OF MAYBE A 12 ARRAY SECTION OF THEM THAT THEY MIGHT WANNA PUT OUT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SCREEN THEM IN ANY WAY. 
          SO I GUESS TAMMY, I, I WOULD MAYBE BRING FORWARD THAT, UM, THAT WE ADDRESS CANOPY PAR, UM, CANOPY COVERAGE IN PARKING AREAS AND THEN WE ADDRESS SCREENING OF TRULY GROUND MOUNTED UNITS SIMILAR TO THE GEOTHERMAL, UM, LANGUAGE THAT IT, YEAH, IT WAS FAIRLY EXTENSIVE. 
          UM, AND I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE TWO MODIFICATIONS. 
          BUT JENNIFER'S CRINGING. 
          SO  AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HELPS FURTHER THE CONVERSATION, BUT I STARTED TALKING TO SOLAR COMPANIES WHEN WE STARTED TALKING MORE ABOUT GROUND MOUNTED, UM, EQUIPMENT. 
          NOW THIS WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT THE COM I TALKED TO THREE COMPANIES SPECIFICALLY. 
          UM, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN OFFER GROUND MOUNTED, UH, EQUIPMENT SPECIFICALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S HARDER TO MAINTAIN AND THERE'S MORE ELEMENTS FOR PEST, UM, GETTING INTO WIRES. 
          IT'S NOT WORTH, UM, BASICALLY THE EXPENSE, UM, FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S JUST INFORMATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          NO, I JUST, UH, WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, AFTER ABOUT 15, 20 YEARS OF DOING ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY TRAMPOLINES AND SWING SETS 
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ARE MOVED OFF TO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY OR INTO THE BACK WHERE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THEM AND THEY CAN'T. 
          SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE STILL INCLUDE THE, UM, SCREENING AMENDMENT IN THIS AND, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT HAPPENS. 
          PEOPLE DON'T WANNA LOOK AT SOMETHING AS TE TREMENDOUSLY UN AESTHETIC. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THE SCREENING WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND WHETHER THAT'S SHRUBBERY OR OFFENSE, I WOULD INCLUDE IT IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO, UM, JUST TO, TO MOVE US ALONG HERE AND, AND, UM, MAKE THIS AMENDMENT IF NECESSARY. 
          UM, WE ARE, IT, IT APPEARS AS THIS, EVERYONE WANTS THE PARKING CANOPY, UH, PIECE IN HERE. 
          BUT THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M CLEAR ON IT, IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD ALLOW GROUND MOUNTED, NOT THE CANOPY ON THE GROUND SCREENED IN THE FRONT OF A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          IS THAT THE SECOND QUESTION THAT, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP? SO THE OPINION ON THAT, DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE MOTION? NO, I WANNA KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE, UM, A CONSENSUS ON THAT. 
          CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE PARKING CANOPY. 
          I DO NOT KNOW THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS, A CLEAR CONSENSUS ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD ALLOW GROUND MOUNTED IN THE FRONT OF A BUILDING SCREENED OR WE ARE JUST GOING FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE. 
          PARKING CANOPY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PARKING CANOPY. 
          AGREED. 
          JUST THE PARKING CANOPY. 
          I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. 
          I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF RESIDENTIAL GROUND MANAGE, CUZ I THINK THERE'S TOO MANY QUESTIONS AND AM IN FAVOR OF, I THINK AMY'S POINT ABOUT SCREENING IN THE COMMERCIAL, REGARDLESS OF LOCATION, IF YOU WILL, ON THE COMMERCIAL SCREEN. 
          IT SEEMS TO BE AN OVERSIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN IT'S ON THE GROUND IN A COMMERCIAL IT SHOULD BE SCREENED. 
          YES. 
          BUT, AND THEN ALSO CLARIFICATION ON HARDSCAPE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WHAT CONSTITUTES IF IT'S, IF THEY CAN CREATE NEW HARDSCAPE TO ACCOMMODATE IT OR DO THEY HAVE TO USE EXISTING? SO I, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THEN, CUZ IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, THERE'S HEAD NODDING THAT, UM, CAN I WAIT, I'M SORRY. 
          I HAVE TWO LIKE MINOR TYPO THINGS THAT WON'T, WON'T CAUSE DEBATE. 
          JUST ME AND MY GRAMMAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS ON PAGE, UM, TWO AND THREE. 
          SO RIGHT UNDER E APPLICABILITY IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH WE, THE VERY LAST, UM, SENTENCE, THERE'S JUST A TYPO IT SHOULD SAY. 
          BUT ALLOW EQUIPMENT JUST SO YOU'RE PARALLEL CUZ THE REGULATIONS ALLOW, IT'S A VERY LAST SENTENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ONE OTHER SMALL TYPO IS ON PAGE, UM, THREE UNDER FIVE WHERE YOU HAVE THE LIST, YOU HAVE AN EXTRA AND YOU DIDN'T DELETE THE OLD, AND, AND WE ADDED A NUMBER. 
          SO NUMBER OR G THE AND SHOULD BE DELETED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER ONE, IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN A TYPO, BUT IT'S JUST A WORD THING. 
          SO UNDER, UNDER OUR PURPOSE IN THAT FIRST AREA, WE, WE USE THE, WE USE, UM, WE SAY SOLAR EQUIPMENT SHALL BE A CONSISTENT COLOR. 
          AND THEN IN THE NEXT SECTION WE SAY IT, IT SHOULD BE A COMPLIMENTARY COLOR THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING. 
          WE SHOULD USE THE SAME WORD. 
          I SUGGEST THE WORD SIMILAR. 
          IT SHOULD BE A SIMILAR COLOR. 
          DEFINITELY NOT THE WORD COMPLIMENTARY. 
          CUZ IF YOU GO BACK TO ART CLASS IN THE COLOR WHEEL, COMPLIMENTARY COLORS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY OPPOSITES ON THE COLOR. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING RED AND GREEN ARE COMPLIMENTARY. 
          WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THAT . 
          SO MY SUGGESTION IS JUST ANYTIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COLOR, JUST USE THE WORD SIMILAR. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT COVERS ALL THE TYPOS THAT I HAD. 
          THANKS ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANDY, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU. 
          DO YOU, ARE YOU FOR THE CANOPY? YOU'D LIKE TO? UH, I'M ALL ABOUT THE CANOPY. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, SERVICE CENTER AND HAVING ONE THERE. 
          SO I THINK WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THAT. 
          UM, SHOULD SCREEN, UM, THE GROUND MOUNTED AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF GROUND MOUNTED IN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND JUST ONE OTHER, UH, UH, COMMENT TO, UH, DEFINE SCREENING. 
          I THINK YOU HAVE TO SAY WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF A PITY, AND I THINK YOU WANT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF PITY FOR THE SCREEN. 
          IT COULD BE INCLUDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO TO BE CLEAR, BEFORE THE MOTION, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PARKING CANOPIES. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT GROUND MOUNTED SCREEN WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT OPACITY, OPACITY ON COMMERCIAL, UM, GROUND MOUNTED, UM, SOLAR PANELS. 
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DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION, CHRIS? SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO THE GRAMMATICAL CHANGES AS OUTLINED, UM, TO THE, UH, THE DELINEATION OF CANOPY PARK CANOPY, UM, COVERAGE OF PARKING AREAS. 
          UM, THE, UH, GROUND MOUNTED IN RESIDENTIAL DOESN'T CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S PRECLUDED IN HERE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD GROUND MOUNTED IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS TO REQUIRE 100% OPACITY SCREENING. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF MY MOTION AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A SECOND. 
          I WILL SECOND THAT BEAT YOU TO IT. 
          ANDY. 
          JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL COROLL? MR. REINER? YES. 
          MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. AM ROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DAR? YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          MS. AUDO? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU TAMMY FOR ALL THAT WORK AND THANK COUNSEL FOR ALL THE GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          OH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE'RE NOT DONE YET. 
          . 
          WE ARE NOT DONE YET. 
          THAT WAS A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. 
          SO NOW WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE, THE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, MS. AROSE GROOMS. YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DEROSA? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MS. KRAN? YES. 
          AND NOW WE HAVE VOTED ON IT. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK EVERYONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          [Ordinance 14-23]
NOW WE ARE AT SECOND READING OF, UM, OF THE ORDINANCE AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE 1423, ADOPTING THE PROPOSED TAX BU BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING IS FROM MEGAN MURRAY. 
          WELCOME, MEGAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE SINCE ITS FIRST READING, SO STAFF PROPOSES ADOPTION. 
          LINDSEY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOR MEGAN? ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          JENNY, PLEASE CALL ROLL. 
          MS. AUDO? YES. 
          MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DAROSA? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          INTRODUCTION. 
          FIRST 
          [Ordinance 15-23]
READING ORDINANCE 15 DASH 23 AMENDING THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2023. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MATT STIFLER IS GIVING HIS INFORMATION ON THIS ONE. 
          YES. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MEMBERS OF COUNSEL ORDINANCE, UM, 15 DASH 23 IS THE Q2 SUPPLEMENTAL. 
          DUE TO THE TIMING REQUIREMENTS ON THIS ORDINANCE, WE HAD TO BRING IT FORWARD TODAY, BUT YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED BY STAFF THAT YOU MAY SEE AS PART OF THE SECOND HEARING ON THIS. 
          SO IF YOU SEE THOSE, UH, THAT WOULD BE WHY THEY WILL OBVIOUSLY BE INCLUDED IN THE MEMO. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE, THEY'RE EXPLAINED IN THE MEMO, BUT STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REQUESTED AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL AT THE SECOND HEARING ON JUNE 26TH. 
          THANKS, MATT. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? LINDSEY? COUNSEL, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MATT? NO. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          THE SECOND READING AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED, AS MATT SAID, FOR JUNE 26TH. 
          [Resolutions 45-23 - 50-23]
NEXT IS INTRODUCTION. 
          PUBLIC HEARING VOTE ON RESOLUTION, UH, RESOLUTIONS AND I MOVE TO WAIVE COUNSEL. 
          RULES OF ORDER AND CONSIDER RESOLUTIONS 45 DASH 23 THROUGH 50 DASH 23 TOGETHER. 
          IS THERE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JENNY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL VICE MAYOR DAROSA. 
          YES. 
          MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. AUDO? YES. 
          MR. RYDER? YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS YES. 
          RESOLUTION 45 23 INTENT TO APPROPRIATE A 2.683 ACRE FEE, SIMPLE WARRANTY DEED FOR RIGHT OF WAY WITHOUT LIMITATION TO EXISTING ACCESS RIGHTS FROM THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF AVERY ROAD IN RINGS ROAD, IDENTIFIED AS FRANKLIN COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER 27 423 FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING A ROADWAY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AND SHARED USE PATH, AND CONSTRUCTING WATER AND SANITARY SEWER LINE EXTENSIONS, ALL OF WHICH WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT CHARGE. 
          RESOLUTION 46 20 THREES REGARDING FRANKLIN COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER 2 7 4 0 0 0 2 1. 
          RESOLUTION 47 23 IS REGARDING FRANKLIN COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER 2 7 4 0 1 7. 
          RESOLUTION 48 23 IS REGARDING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 63 68 RINGS ROAD RESOLUTION 49 23 IS REGARDING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 55 22 AVERY ROAD AND RESOLUTION 50 23. 
          THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 61 66 AVERY ROAD. 
          I'LL INTRODUCE THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OUR STAFF REPORT IS FROM DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF 
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ENGINEERING, BRIAN GABLE. 
          BRIAN, GOOD EVENING. 
          MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE AVERY ROAD AND RINGS ROAD, CARA ROAD INTERIM INTER IN INTERIM INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WILL CONSTRUCT A ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION, CURB AND GUTTER FOR KEA ROAD AND CARRA COURT WATER AND SANITARY LINE EXTENSIONS FOR RINGS ROAD, KEA ROAD AND CAR COURT, AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ON RINGS ROAD, KEA ROAD, AVERY ROAD AND KERA COURT ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY INTEREST FROM EIGHT PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PROJECT AREA IS NECESSARY TO CONSTRUCT THE AVERY ROAD AND RINGS ROAD CARE ROAD INTERIM INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 
          THE RESOLUTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING ARE THE FIRST LEGISLATION NECESSARY TO COMMENCE THE APPROPRIATION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS ON SIX PROPERTIES. 
          THE NEXT LEG LEGISLATION WILL BE ORDINANCES AUTHORIZING THE APPROPRIATIONS, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED FOR FIRST RATING AT THE JUNE 26TH. 
          COUNCIL MEETING. 
          CERTAINLY NEGOTIATIONS WITH EACH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL CONTINUE WITH THE HOPE THAT A FAIR SETTLEMENT OFFER WILL OCCUR. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS 45 DASH 23 THROUGH 50 DASH 23 TO COMMENCE THESE APPROPRIATIONS AND TO ALLOW THE PROJECT TO REMAIN ON SCHEDULE AND PROCEED TO CONSTRUCTION. 
          I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL MAY HAVE REGARDING THESE RESOLUTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BRIAN, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? LINDSEY? COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? HEARING NONE, JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MS. SAM ROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DAR? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          THANK YOU BRIAN. 
          UM, A RESOLUTION 
          [Resolution 51-23]
51 DASH 23 ADOPTING INTERIM LAND USE PRINCIPLES FOR THE EVALUATION OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. 
          I'LL REDUCE IT. 
          OUR STAFF REPORT IS FROM JENNY RACHE. 
          HI, JENNY. 
          HI. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          I'M GLAD TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SHARE OUR, UM, DRAFT INTERIM LAND USE PRINCIPLES. 
          UM, THESE WERE DEVELOPED AS PART OF OUR INITIAL ENVISION DUBLIN INPUT SESSIONS, WHICH INCLUDED, UM, OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL AS JOINT WORK SESSION BETWEEN COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD. 
          UM, AND, AND AGAIN, PREVIOUS POLICY DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH COUNCIL OVER THE PAST, UM, YEAR OR SO ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WE PROVIDED THESE DRAFT PRINCIPLES AT THE MAY 15TH WORK SESSION. 
          GOT SOME INPUT FROM COUNCIL, UM, WHICH WE'VE INCORPORATED THROUGHOUT, UM, THIS PROPOSED DOCUMENT. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE THAT CLEAR POLICY DOCUMENT WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS WHILE WE'RE UPDATING THE COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          SO THIS WILL HELP, UM, STAFF AS WELL AS OUR APPLICANTS, AS WELL AS PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, UM, AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          AND THESE PRINCIPLES ARE INTENDED TO BE USED IN SUPPORT OF OUR EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN, UM, AS WELL AS THE ZONING CODE AND ANY OTHER PLANS AND POLICIES THAT WE'VE ADOPTED. 
          SO IN YOUR PACKET AND ON THE SCREEN HERE, I'VE SHOWN, UM, THESE IN SORT OF A MARKED UP VERSION JUST SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THESE 12 DRAFT PRINCIPLES. 
          UM, THE FIRST MODIFICATION WAS TO NUMBER ONE, WHICH WAS, UM, OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS PLAN FOR THE BIGGER PICTURE. 
          UM, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT THAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO I THINK OUR, OUR, I KNOW OUR INTENT WAS TO HOW DO WE LOOK AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW, UM, DEVELOPMENT FITS WITHIN THAT LARGER PICTURE NO MATTER WHERE, UM, WHERE WE ARE IN THE CITY. 
          SO THAT IS THE FIRST CHANGE. 
          UM, TO THAT THEN WE HAD NO CHANGES TO THE SECOND ONE, WHICH WAS START WITH THE PUBLIC REALM. 
          UM, THEN THE THIRD ONE, WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE RELATED TO BALANCING OUR MIX OF USES SPECIFIC TO COUNCIL'S LONGSTANDING POLICY OR THE CITY'S POLICY RELATED TO THE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, COUNSEL IS VERY CLEAR THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS FOREFRONT IN OUR MIND AS WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT PROPOSALS. 
          SO THAT'S PROPOSED IN THERE. 
          UM, NUMBER FOUR, PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHOICES. 
          UM, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS LOCATED APPROPRIATELY AND FIT FITS CONTEXTUALLY WITHIN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO WE ADDED, UM, THAT SECOND SENTENCE TO THAT TO GET AT THAT, UM, TO GET AT THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL. 
          WANTING TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, EACH DISTRICT, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE CONTEXTUALLY, IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT FITS WITHIN THAT CONTEXT. 
          UM, NUMBER FIVE, FOCUSED GROWTH. 
          WE HAD NO CHANGES TO, UM, THAT PROPOSED PRINCIPLE. 
          UM, NUMBER SIX, RELATED TO RESERVING STRATEGIC ECONOMIC ASSETS. 
          WE ADDED, UM, A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE AT THE END HERE, REALLY GETTING AT THAT LOCATION OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO RESTRICT THAT, FRONTING THOSE CORRIDORS OF THE INTERSTATE, 
          [01:30:01]
UM, AS WELL AS HIGHWAY FRONT, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, RAIL, RAIL CORRIDORS AS WELL. 
          SO THOSE WERE, UM, LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT CONCERNS WHEN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED IN THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          SO WANTING THAT TO BE CLEAR, UM, AS PART OF THESE, UM, NUMBER SEVEN, PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES AND ECOLOGICAL SYSTEMS. UH, NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO THAT. 
          UM, NUMBER EIGHT, WE CHANGED, UM, THIS FROM PRESERVE AND CELEBRATE TO PROTECT, PROTECT AND ENHANCE OUR HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES. 
          UM, AGAIN, JUST TO BOLSTER OUR CURRENT EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING ON WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          AND THEN ONGOING CONVERSATION. 
          UM, NUMBER NINE, INTEGRATE SUSTAINABLE DESIGN. 
          NO MODIFICATIONS TO THAT. 
          UM, NUMBER 10, WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE, UM, WITHIN THIS RELATED TO THE, UM, CREATING A CONNECTED TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AT THAT WORK SESSION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CHARACTER OF THE ROADWAYS AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT ON AN EMERALD PARKWAY OR ON, YOU KNOW, TOTAL CROSSING OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, THAT THE CHARACTER, HIGHLAND CROIX, WHATEVER THE CHARACTER IS OF THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTEXTUAL TO WHAT, WHAT THE DESIGN IS, UM, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THERE. 
          SO INCLUDING WHAT THOSE CHARACTER FEATURES ARE, IF THERE'S NATURAL FEATURES WE WANNA PRESERVE OR HIGHLIGHT AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THEN NUMBER 11, ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY. 
          NO CHANGES TO THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN NUMBER 12, UNDER BE DISTINCTLY DUBLIN, UM, WE ADDED PUBLIC ART TO THE LIST OF, UM, DISTINCT FEATURES THAT REALLY HELP CREATE THAT SENSE OF PLACE. 
          UM, AS WELL AS THEN WANTING TO ENCOURAGE THOUGHTFUL AND INNOVATIVE DESIGN. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US THAT EVERYONE, WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS FORWARD, ARE DOING THAT IN A BRINGING DESIGN FORWARD THAT HELPS FURTHER DUBLIN'S VISION FOR WHAT WE WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, AND WHAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE. 
          SO WITH THOSE CHANGES, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 52 23 FOR THESE ENVISION INTERIM LAND USE PRINCIPLES. 
          AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? YES. 
          SCOTT HARRING SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. 
          ALL RIGHT, WELCOME. 
          JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND GLAD YOU'RE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME IS SCOTT HARRING. 
          I LIVE AT 32 80 LILLY MAR COURT IN THE MARTIN ROAD CORRIDOR. 
          UM, I WANTED TO ASK, I SAW THIS ON THE, UH, AGENDA AND I SAW THE WORD INNER RIM AND I THOUGHT, WELL, WHAT'S HAPPENED? I, I INTERPRETED THIS AS, UM, RELATING TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN CUZ THE OPENING REMARKS OF THE MEMO TALKED ABOUT THE ENVISION PROCESS IS UNDERWAY. 
          AND I ATTENDED A MEETING HERE THAT SAID IT WOULD BE A YEAR LONG PROCESS. 
          SO WHEN I SAW THE WORD INTERIM, I THOUGHT, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR EXISTING? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE. 
          UH, AND THEN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE HERE, JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, SAID TO ENHANCE THE EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          SO I HOPE OUR COMMUNITY PLAN HAS NOT EXPIRED OR BEEN ERADICATED. 
          AM I HEARING THIS WRONG? I, I THINK THERE WERE SOME THINGS FROM THE, THE, UH, INITIAL DISCUSSIONS THAT ROSE TO THE TOP THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURE IN SHORT ORDER, THAT THERE WAS GENERAL AGREEMENT ON THOSE AND EVERYONE, IT WAS A COHESIVE THING. 
          SO WE WANTED TO, THIS IS THE INTERIM BETWEEN THE EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN THAT HAS NOT EX HAS EXPIRED, IS IT, IS IT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THE DOCUMENT THAT GOVERNS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THIS IS A LITTLE BRIDGE OF THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE FROM THE UPDATED COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          AND SO THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT IN, WE KNOW WANT TO HAPPEN IN THERE ARE CAPTURED IN THIS INTERIM. 
          SO UNTIL WE WANT THESE TO BE EFFECTIVE NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS FINISHED, WHICH COULD TAKE, I DON'T THINK IT'S 18 MONTHS OR SO. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO AS A, AS A CITIZEN WHEN I SAT IN A KICKOFF MEETING SAID THERE'LL BE ALL THESE STEPS AND ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC INPUT. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A MOTION TONIGHT TO DO ALL THAT. 
          SO I GUESS I WAS REALLY HOPING TO SEE THAT WHOLE PROCESS BE SEEN THROUGH, AND I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THIS JUMPSTART, AS YOU SAY, OR, UM, HOW, HOW SOME OF THIS IS GONNA BE. 
          YES. 
          SO IF I MAY INTERJECT, IF THAT'S OKAY, PLEASE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN THAT REMAINS IN EFFECT, THAT'S STILL VALID FOR US. 
          THERE ARE SOME POINTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH COUNSEL THAT NEED HIGHLIGHTING IN THE PROCESS. 
          JUST AS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER AMHERST GROOM SAID, WE NEED A TIMEFRAME BETWEEN THE CURRENT PLAN AND THE NEW PLAN BEING UP UPDATED. 
          SO HOW DO WE BRIDGE THE GAP OF THESE POINTS THAT ARE COMING TO THE SURFACE? SO THERE'S STILL THE ENVISIONED DUBLIN PLAN UPDATE GOING ON OVER THE NEXT 18 MONTHS, BUT WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING SIGHT OF THESE LARGER POLICY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING AND HOW THOSE GET INCORPORATED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL SEE AS THE PLAN UPDATES. 
          SO THIS IS NOT CHANGING THE PLAN. 
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IT IS ADDING SOME SUPPLEMENTAL POLICY TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN WHILE WE DO THE UPDATE. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH, UH, YEAH. 
          I'M VERY SURPRISED THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE THE ENTIRE ENVISION 18 MONTHS PROCESS THROUGH AND THEN SEE A GRANT. 
          OH, WE, WE ARE . 
          THE, THE, UM, THE EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN IS, UM, QUITE A FEW YEARS OLD. 
          AND DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEARS SINCE THE PLAN HAS BEEN DATED, MANY OF THESE GENERAL PRINCIPLES WE'VE FOUND THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS IN PLANNING AND ZONING ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY GENERAL, BUT THEY CAPTURE SOME OF THE VOIDS THAT WE KNOW EXIST IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN WHEN THE ENVISION PLAN IS COMPLETED. 
          ALL OF THESE PRINCIPLES WILL BE EVENTUALLY INCORPORATED AND ENHANCED BY WHAT WE LEARN FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS SOME ADDITIONAL GENERAL PROTECTIONS THAT WE SEE MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARILY ADDRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND ENHANCEMENTS. 
          JENNY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT YOUR FEARS PROBABLY CAN BE SOOTHED A LITTLE BIT BY KNOWING THAT THIS IS, THESE ARE PROTECTIVE FACTORS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL THAT ADD TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN, BUT DO NOT, DO NOT IN ANY WAY MINIMALIZE ANY OF THE OPINIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL BRING FORWARD IN THE NEW ENVISION PLAN. 
          THAT'S, I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADD FOR YOU. 
          SO, UM, IT'S LIKE, AS YOU SAID, IT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS OR SO AT LEAST TO GET THIS COMMUNITY PLAN REVISED. 
          OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PLANNING AND ZONING USES OUR COMMUNITY PLAN AS A BASIS WHEN THEY'RE DECIDING IF AN APPLICATION THAT IS CORRECT MEETS WHAT WE WANT. 
          WE KNOW THERE ARE A FEW AREAS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANNA CHANGE. 
          AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN IN THAT INTERIM IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS AND ASK FOR THINGS THAT OUR OLD COMMUNITY PLAN ALLOWS OR DOESN'T SPECIFY ABOUT. 
          SO A GOOD EXAMPLE IS NUMBER SIX, WHERE WE ADDED LANGUAGE TONIGHT. 
          CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN ADAMANT THAT WE WANT TO KEEP RESIDENTIAL AWAY FROM OUR FREEWAY QUARTERS. 
          THAT IS, THAT WAS ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE. 
          THAT, UM, SO WE'VE DECIDED WE DO NOT WANNA PUT APARTMENT BUILDINGS UP NEXT ON TWO 70 FRONTAGE. 
          OUR EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN DOESN'T SPECIFY THAT. 
          SO WE WOULD HOPE, RIGHT? SO SHOULDN'T WE JUST WAIT UNTIL THE COMMUNITY PLAN RENEWAL PROCESS? NO. 
          CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA WAIT 18 MONTHS BECAUSE THERE'S APPLICATIONS COMING FORWARD IN THOSE NEXT 18TH MONTHS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ASK FOR RESIDENTIAL ALONG ALL OF TWO 70. 
          AND ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN, THAT WOULD, IT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M JUST SO SURPRISED THAT A SINGLE RESOLUTION TONIGHT WILL SET ALL SORTS OF POLICIES WHEN I SAT IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE ENVISION PROCESS AND ALL THIS INPUT, INPUT. 
          AND HERE WE'RE AT A LITTLE RESOLUTION TONIGHT, BUT SO BE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSIONS FOR JENNY? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO JUST, UH, REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIRD PLACES IN, IN, IN THIS FUTURE COMMUNITY PLAN AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT'S GONNA BE TO A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S WALKABLE AND HAS ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE? JENNY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL VICE MAYOR DAROSA? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          MAYOR FOX? YES. 
          MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MS. SALUTO? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          MS. AROSE GROOMS, YES. 
          OTHER BUSINESS. 
          THIS 
          [Speed Management Program Follow Up ]
EVENING WE WILL BE HEARING A STAFF REPORT FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY. 
          JEANIE WILLIS ON SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          WELCOME, JEANIE. 
          GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          LET'S SEE, LET'S BRING THIS GOING TO UP. 
          THERE IT GOES. 
          GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          UM, PLEASE. 
          TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND TOOL DESIGN HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER, UM, ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED ON APRIL 24TH. 
          UM, AND, UM, BRINGING BACK SOME RE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE PROGRAM. 
          I AM 
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JOINED TONIGHT BY DAVID SHIPS, WHO IS THE, UM, COLUMBUS, UM, OFFICE DIRECTOR FOR TOOL DESIGN AND, UH, NICK TABERNAC, OUR DEPUTY CHIEF. 
          SO TONIGHT IN SUMMARY, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS WE HAVE, UM, BASICALLY FOUR AREAS OF, UM, DISCUSSION TONIGHT. 
          WE HAVE SOME PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE POLICY AND TOOLBOX THAT, UM, STAFF IN TOOL DESIGN ARE RECOMMENDING. 
          THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          UH, THERE'S SOME JUST GENERAL, UH, REQUESTED FOLLOW UP INFORMATION THAT WE WILL PROVIDE. 
          AND THEN STAFF HAS, UM, CONSTRUCTED A SERIES OF DISCUSSION QUESTIONS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE GUIDANCE AND FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL ON HOW TO SHAPE AND DEVELOP THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, FOR COUNCIL TONIGHT, UM, THE CITY HAS CONTACTED THOSE INTERESTED RESIDENTS, UH, VIA EMAIL, UH, TO SHARE THAT THIS TOPIC WOULD BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT. 
          UH, WE DID RECEIVE CONFIRMATION FROM ONE OF THOSE INTERESTED RESIDENTS, SO WE ARE, UM, CERTAIN THAT THE RE INTER, UM, THE COMMUNICATION WAS RECEIVED. 
          SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO SHIFT THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. SHIPS TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE POLICY IN THE TOOLBOX, UH, FOR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU, JEANIE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          SO, UM, CONSIDERING THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL, UH, TOOL DESIGN HAS PROPOSED THE VISION STATEMENT INDICATE THAT THE PROGRAM WILL STRIVE TO CREATE SAFE AND COMFORTABLE STREETS FOR RESIDENTS AND ALL USERS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPO, THE PROPOSED, UM, REVISED VISION STATEMENT REMOVES THE REFERENCE TO ALL RESIDENTS AND ROAD USERS ACROSS DUBLIN. 
          SO BOTH STAFF AND TOOL DESIGN BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED REVISED VISION STATEMENT MAINTAINS THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL VISION STATEMENT, UM, WHICH IS TO INCLUDE, UH, RESIDENT AND ROAD USER COMFORT, UM, AS AN ASPIRATIONAL FOCUS REALLY, UM, WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT COMFORT IS REALLY OFTEN SUBJECTIVE, UM, AND A MATTER OF OPINION. 
          SO THIS IS THE REVISED STATEMENT AS PROPOSED. 
          SO WHAT OUR TEAM HEARD AT THE LAST MEETING IS THAT THE STREET CONTEXT IS MISSING. 
          SO INCLUDING VOLUME AND LOCATION. 
          SO THIS SLIDE WILL SHOW YOU THE, THE PREVIOUS, UM, SPEED MANAGEMENT CATEGORIES THAT WE HAD. 
          SO IN CONSIDERING, UM, THE FEEDBACK THAT SPEED MANAGEMENT CATEGORIES NEED TO TAKE CONTEXT INTO ACCOUNT, UH, TOOL DESIGN RECOMMENDS REVISING THE PROPOSED SPEED MANAGEMENT CATEGORIES TO GROUP SPEEDS BY POSTED SPEED LIMITS AND FUNCTION. 
          SO WE'VE MADE SOME SLIGHT REVISIONS TO THIS TABLE. 
          UM, THEN WHAT WAS IN THE MEMO FOR CLARITY, BY CREATING SORT OF ONE SINGLE CATEGORY FOR SPEED LIMITS GREATER THAN 35 MILES AN, UM, GREATER THAN 35 MILES AN HOUR. 
          BUT THE, THE APPLICATION IS THE SAME. 
          SO FOR STREETS THAT HAVE SPEEDS THAT ARE POSTED 35 MILES PER HOUR OR GREATER, UM, AND FUNCTION AS ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS, THE CATEGORY T THRESHOLDS ARE THE SAME AS THE PRIOR VERSION. 
          UH, FOR STREETS THAT ARE POSTED AT 15 OR 25 MILES AN HOUR AND ARE AN ALLEY, A LOCAL OR RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR. 
          UM, THE THRESHOLDS FOR CATEGORY ONE AND TWO HAVE BEEN LOWERED FOR STREETS ARE WITHIN A SCHOOL ZONE. 
          UM, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY BUMPED TO CATEGORY TWO. 
          UM, AND THEN THRESHOLDS FOR BOTH CATEGORY TWO AND CATEGORY THREE HAVE BEEN LOWERED. 
          SO, FOR INSTANCE, A FOR A SCHOOL ZONE, UM, SPEEDING FIVE MILES PER HOUR OR LESS JUMPS RIGHT INTO CATEGORY TWO SOLUTIONS, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE DUE TO THE THE LIKELY PRESENCE OF CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, JUST, UM, VULNERABLE USERS THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          UH, WHEREAS APPLYING THE SAME STANDARD TO, UM, A STREET SUCH AS EMERALD PARKWAY WOULD, WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE. 
          SO AGAIN, THE KEY TAKEAWAY HERE IS BY LOWERING THE THRESHOLDS FOR LOCAL OR RESIDENTIAL COLLECTORS IN SCHOOL ZONES, MORE SPEED MANAGEMENT TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE, UM, FOR LOWER SPEED ROADWAYS, WHERE THOSE MORE VULNERABLE USERS MAY BE PRESENT. 
          UM, FURTHER THE REVISED PROPOSED SPEED MANAGEMENT CATEGORIES ALIGN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT ACTION POLICY, UM, FOR LOCAL ROADS AND SCHOOL ZONES. 
          SO FOCUSING ON THE LEFT 
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SIDE OF, OF THE THE TABLE, THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING THE REVISED PROPOSED SPEED LIMIT ON FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION COLUMNS, UM, FROM THE PRIOR SLIDE. 
          SO THE IMAGES ON THE RIGHT ARE EXAMPLES OF EACH OF THESE. 
          JUST AS A REMINDER, SPEED LIMITS ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO TRAFFIC VOLUME AND LO AND LOCATION. 
          SO HENCE WHY LOCAL OR RESIDENTIAL STREETS AT ARE POSTED AT 25 MILES AN HOUR, SUCH AS THE RUSH WOOD DRIVE EXAMPLE, UM, IN THE LOWER LEFT OF THESE IMAGES, UM, WHILE COLLECTOR AND ARTERIAL STREETS ARE POSTER AT POSTED AT HIGHER LIMITS, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND BRAND ROAD EXAMPLES. 
          UM, SO FURTHERMORE, LIKE LOCAL LEVEL ROADS IN DUBLIN TYPICALLY HAVE A RANGE OF, OF TRAFFIC VOLUMES AROUND OR UNDER 2000 VEHICLES A DAY, WHEREAS THOSE COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS, UM, SUCH AS BRANDO RIVERSIDE, YOU KNOW, HAVE VOLUMES RANGING, UM, FROM 20 TO 35,000 VEHICLES PER DAY. 
          UM, THE LAST EXAMPLE THAT YOU SEE HERE IS A SCHOOL ZONE ALONG AVERY ROAD. 
          SO HERE THERE ARE TWO, UM, REALLY ASPECTS OF THIS PROGRAM THAT WILL BE APPLIED, UM, THE SPEED MANAGEMENT TOOLBOX THAT WILL APPLY TO STREETS AS A WHOLE, AND SECOND, THE SPEED ENFORCEMENT AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL. 
          SO THIS SLIDE FOCUSES NOW ON, ON SORT OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TABLE AND HOW THE SPEED MANAGEMENT TOOLBOX WILL APPLY TO SPEED SURVEY RESULTS. 
          SO HERE IS ON THIS SLIDE AS A SCENARIO, WITH AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPICAL SPEED STUDY RESULTS ON A 25 MILE AN HOUR ROADWAY FUNCTIONING AS A RESIDENTIAL OR LOCAL STREET. 
          UM, AND FOUND THAT THE 85TH PERCENTILE HERE WAS 3.67 MILES PER HOUR OVER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT. 
          SO IN THAT CASE, CITY STAFF WOULD THEN ROUND THAT UP TO FOUR MILES PER HOUR OVER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT. 
          SO BASED UPON THE PROPOSED TABLE, THE STREET IN QUESTION IS ELIGIBLE FOR CATEGORY TWO SOLUTIONS. 
          SO OUR EXAMPLE, ELIGIBLE, ELIGIBLE STREET CAN RECEIVE ONE OR MORE OF THESE CATEGORY TWO SOLUTIONS, PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, UH, POLICE, MOBILE SPEED TRAILERS, ROTATING DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS, UH, PERMANENT DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS, POLICE OBSERVATIONS AND ENGAGEMENTS, STREET WIDTH REDUCTION USING PAVEMENT MARKINGS, TACTICAL URBANISM, AND THEN TEMPORARY SPEED CUSHIONS. 
          UM, AND TEMPORARY SPEED CUSHIONS ARE PART OF THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          OFFICER TABERNAC, THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A, SOME HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLES. 
          SO THESE WILL, THESE WILL ALL BE, UM, MADE UP, BUT, BUT WE THINK THAT THIS PROVIDES SOME PRACTICAL APPLICATION TO NOT ONLY OUR POLICY, BUT ALSO OUR CURRENT PRACTICE. 
          JUST TO, JUST SO YOU GUYS HAVE SOME REFERENCE POINT HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO THE FIRST ONE HERE, WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WHICH ACTUALLY IS A ZONE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY OR ARE ACTIVELY WORKING RIGHT NOW. 
          I BELIEVE MR. MANIFOLD REFERENCED IT EARLIER. 
          UH, SO IN, IN THE AREA FOR THIS HYPOTHETICAL, IT'S 50 MILE AN HOUR ZONE. 
          SO LET'S SAY AN OFFICER IS WORKING THAT ZONE FOR SPEED ENFORCEMENT AND THEY STOP A CAR FOR 60 AND A 50, SO 10 MILES AN HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          WE OFTEN GET ASKED, WELL, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE LINE AS TO WHEN WE ISSUE A CITATION? WHEN DO YOU ISSUE A WARNING? AND IT DEPENDS. 
          AND SO LIKE IT SAYS UP THERE, DEPENDING ON THE DRIVING RECORD, THE ROADWAY CONDITIONS, THE TIME OF DAY AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES BEHIND THE VIOLATION, THE OFFICERS HAVE THE DISCRETION TO EITHER ISSUE A VERBAL WARNING OR A CITATION TO THAT, TO THAT, UH, TO THAT DRIVER AND WANTED TO PUT IN HERE. 
          THE VERBAL WARNINGS ARE RETAINED BY OUR, OUR DISPATCH SO THAT IF AN OFFICER ASKS FOR LOCAL HISTORY WITH A DRIVER, THEY CAN HYPOTHETICALLY HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE THIS DRIVER RECEIVED FOUR WARNINGS IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR, WE'RE TRYING TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE ROADWAY SAFER FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO MAYBE IF THEY GOT ALL THOSE WARNINGS BEFORE, THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY GETTING THE MESSAGE THAT THEY NEED TO SLOW DOWN SO THE OFFICER CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 
          THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF DRIVING HISTORY OR, OR DRIVING RECORD SO THEY CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY'RE MAKING, MAKING THAT ENFORCEMENT DECISIONS. 
          DO I, DO I ISSUE A WARNING OR DO I ISSUE A CITATION? SO THERE'S A RIVERSIDE DRIVE EXAMPLE BRAND ROAD. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY JUST HAD A CONVERSATION THIS, THIS EVENING WITH A SECOND SHIFT SERGEANT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, UM, 
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SOME SPEED I ISSUES UP ON BRAND ROAD FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          UM, SO HE'S, HE'S TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, WITH HI WITH HIS TEAM AS WE SPEAK. 
          UM, BUT IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE, 35 MILE AN HOUR ZONE ON BRAND. 
          AND LET'S SAY AN OFFICER IS WORKING THAT ZONE RESPONSIVE TO, TO OUR COMMUNITY AND RESPONSIVE TO COMPLAINTS, AND THEY STOP A DRIVER FOR 51 IN THAT 35. 
          SO IN THIS SITUATION, WE'RE LOOKING AT 16 MILES AN HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT POLICY. 
          AND PRACTICE-WISE, THE OFFICER WOULD NORMALLY ISSUE A CITATION. 
          I WILL QUALIFY THIS ALL WITH, WE ALWAYS ASK VIOLATORS, TRAFFIC VIOLATORS IF THEY HAVE A REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR SPEED, IF THEY HAVE A REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR ANY TRAFFIC VIOLATION, RIGHT? AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE OFFER VERY REASONABLE EXPLANATIONS, ANYTHING FROM MY WIFE'S PREGNANT, I NEED TO GET HER TO THE HO TO THE HOSPITAL TO MAYBE EVEN, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M LATE FOR WORK, I'M A DOCTOR AND I'M GOING INTO SURGERY. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT FROM EXPERIENCE SOME OF US HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD. 
          SO WE ALWAYS OFFER THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY, UM, EXAMPLES THAT COME, DON'T COME ABOUT EVERY DAY, BUT WE DO OFFER THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR DRIVING BEHAVIOR. 
          BUT IN THIS SITUATION, ON BRAND ROUTE AT 16 MILES AN HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT WE WOULD NORMALLY ISSUE A CITATION RUSH WOULD DRIVE. 
          SO LET'S TAKE A A MORE RESIDENTIAL EXAMPLE HERE. 
          SO IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL, LET'S SAY THE, THE OFFICER IS ACTIVELY WORKING A COMPLAINT THAT WAS CALLED IN BY A RESIDENT. 
          AND AGAIN, WE, WE TAKE ALL THE COMPLAINTS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE, WE ARE THE, UH, THE CLEARING HOUSE FOR, FOR ALL COMPLAINTS. 
          AND WE, AND WE WANT TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS A, A PERSONAL TOUCH, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, SO THAT WE'RE ENGAGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, WHERE, WHERE EITHER THEY'RE LIVING, THEY'RE WORKING OR THEY'RE TRAVELING THROUGH. 
          SO AGAIN, OFFICERS THERE RES UH, BEING RESPONSIVE TO COMPLAINTS AND, AND, AND SHE STOPS A, UH, A TRAFFIC VIOLATOR FOR 32 AND A 25. 
          AGAIN, TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION HERE, THE ROADWAY CONDITIONS, THE TIME OF DAY, ARE THERE VULNERABLE ROADWAY USERS? UH, THERE, THERE IS OFFICER DISCRETION INVOLVED IN THIS, WHETHER TO ISSUE A CITATION OR A VERBAL WARNING. 
          JUST ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT. 
          THOSE VERBAL WARNINGS ARE CAPTURED IN OUR, IN OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCHING SYSTEM. 
          SHOULD THE OFFICER BE INTERESTED IN HISTORY WITH THAT DRIVER WHEN MAKING THAT ENFORCEMENT DECISION. 
          SO THERE, THERE IS A LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD EXAMPLE, AND THEN WANTED TO THROW ONE ADDITIONAL EXAMPLE IN HERE OF A SCHOOL ZONE. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, UH, WITH VULNERABLE ROADWAY USERS THERE AND CHILDREN TRAVELING IN THE AREA, LET'S SAY THE OFFICER IS WORKING THAT SCHOOL ZONE, WHICH OUR OFFICERS ROUTINELY WORK AND STOPS A VEHICLE FOR 31 MILES AN HOUR IN THAT 21 MILE, IN THAT 20 MILE AN HOUR ZONE, OBVIOUSLY I THINK WE HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING HERE. 
          UM, AND IT WAS LAID OUT BEFORE THAT 31 IN A 20 IS MUCH DIFFERENT FROM 81 IN A 70, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE ROADWAY USERS PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. 
          SO DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THIS VIOLATION AS WELL AS THOSE, THOSE ROADWAY USERS, THE OFFICERS CONSIDERING THE, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE STOP ARE ENCOURAGED TO ISSUE THAT CITATION. 
          ONCE AGAIN, IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT AT THIS LEVEL WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL ZONE AT 11 MILES AN HOUR OVER AS COMPARED TO 11 MILES AN HOUR OVER ON A, A HIGHER SPEED LIMIT. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE FOUR EXAMPLES THERE AND THEY'RE ALL HYPOTHETICAL, BUT, UH, GIVE, GIVE YOU SOME REFERENCE POINT AS TO HOW THIS MATCHES UP PRACTICALLY WITH OUR POLICY AND THEN OUR CURRENT PRACTICES AS WELL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DEPUTY CHIEF? I HAD ONE YES. 
          UM, IN THE DEFINITION OF HOW BIG A SCHOOL ZONE IS, CUZ I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SO MANY OF OUR KIDDOS THANKFULLY RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL AND WALK. 
          SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, SCHOOL ZONES, HOW BIG OF A PERIMETER ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SO THE SCHOOL ZONES ARE ALL, ARE ALL MARKED WITH FLASHING SIGNS, SO IT WOULD BE WITHIN THOSE FLASHING SIGNS THAT WE CAN ENFORCE THOSE SCHOOL ZONES. 
          SO I GUESS WHEN WE GET TO COMMENT, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE WORKING ON THIS POLICY, IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN, IN THOSE AREAS? BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY KIDS THAT DO WALK AND RIDE TO SCHOOL. 
          SO JUST A QUESTION WE'LL ADDRESS LATER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT YOU PROVIDED COMMENTS ON WAS, UH, ON THE LANGUAGE AND THE POLICY BEING TOO RESTRICTIVE REGARDING VERTICAL DEVICES. 
          UM, SO TOOL DESIGN RECOMMENDS TWO CHANGES TO ADDRESS 
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THIS FEEDBACK. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS THE REDUCTION IN THE THRESHOLDS FOR SCHOOL ZONES, WHICH ALLOWS CONSIDERATION FOR CATEGORY THREE SOLUTIONS AT LOWER THRESHOLDS. 
          UM, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR AGAIN, CATEGORY, CATEGORY THREE SOLUTIONS INCLUDE VERTICAL MEASURES. 
          SO THE SECOND FOCUS IS ON REVISING THE PROPOSED SPEED MANAGEMENT TOOLBOX LANGUAGE TO BE LESS RESTRICTIVE AS IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE. 
          SO IN TERMS OF WHERE AND WHEN, UM, VERTICAL DEVICES CAN BE USED, THE PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE, UH, DEVELOPED BY, BY TOOL DESIGN, UM, PROVIDES PARAMETERS REGARDING THE APPROPRIATE APPLICATION OF THE VARIOUS SPEED MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES SUCH AS STREET ENVIRONMENT, FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROADWAY, SPECIAL STREET TYPE, EMERGENCY OR TRANSIT ROUTE, UM, IN COMBINATION WITH THE SPEED CATEGORY BASED ON THE COLLECTED DATA. 
          SO RAY'S CROSSWALKS WERE ALSO DISCUSSED AT THE APRIL COUNCIL MEETING, UM, AND ARE PROPOSED TO BE EVALUATED AND CONSIDERED UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS AS SPEED CUSHIONS, SPEED HUMPS, AND OTHER VERTICAL MEASURES IN THE SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          SO COUNCIL PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON WHETHER THE FREQUENCY OF OF BLESS YOU, UH, FREQUENCY OF COMPLAINTS SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS A METRIC IN THE PROGRAM. 
          SO THE PROPOSED PROGRAM INCORPORATES REQUESTS, CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS IN THE INITIAL STEP OF THE PROCESS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THAT STEP INCLUDES CITY STAFF REVIEW OF SPEED, CITATION DATA SPEED RELATED CRASHES, OR UNKNOWN PROBLEM, UM, BASED UPON POLICE OBSERVATIONS. 
          SO A STREET WILL ONLY FALL INTO CATEGORY ONE THROUGH THREE IF THERE IS A DOCUMENTED SPEEDING PROBLEM. 
          SO THIS APPROACH IS CONSISTENT WITH FEDERAL POLICY, UM, AND PEER CITY CASE STUDIES. 
          SO NONE OF THE NATIONAL OR FEDERAL SPEED MANAGEMENT GUIDES NOR CITY, UM, CASE STUDIES INCLUDE FREQUENCY OF COMPLAINTS TO DETERMINE WHERE TO DEPLOY A SAFETY OR SPEED MANAGEMENT PHYSICAL MEASURE. 
          UM, AND ADDING SUCH A METRIC WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES. 
          SO NATIONALLY, F H W F H W A, UM, ITT AND NATO ARE ENCOURAGING A SYSTEMIC DATA, DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH KNOWN AS THE SAFE SYSTEMS APPROACH, WHICH I THINK WE PRESENTED ON BEFORE, UM, WHICH LEVERAGES CRASH AND OTHER DATA SOURCES, UM, THAT CAN INDI INDICATE THAT SAFETY ISSUES MAY BE PRESENT AND FOCUSING RESOURCES TO ADDRESS, UH, LOCATIONS OF FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES. 
          SO AGAIN, THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS WHILE TOOL DESIGN DOES NOT RECOMMEND THIS SPECIFIC METRIC IN THE PROGRAM, BOTH TOOL DESIGN AND STAFF RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ADDRESSING INDIVIDUAL CONCERNS AS A PART OF THE PROGRAM. 
          SO AS SUCH, WE RECOMMEND CREATING A NEW CATEGORY, THIS EDUCATION AND AWARENESS WITHIN THE SPEED MANAGEMENT CATEGORIES AS SHOWN. 
          SO THE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS CATEGORY IS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION THAT GIVES ALL RESIDENTS A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN SPEED MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS REGARDLESS OF THE SPEED METRICS. 
          SO THE CATEGORY SOLUTIONS COULD INCLUDE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, POLICE LOANER LASER, AND RIDE ALONG AND YARD SIGNS. 
          SO THE POLICE LOANER LASER AND RIDE ALONG PROGRAMS, THEIR EXISTING PROGRAMS. THE CITY ALREADY USES THEM, UM, TO EDUCATE RESIDENTS ON A ON A VARIOUS NUMBER OF ITEMS. SO ANOTHER RECOMMENDED TOOL IS, IS ADDING THE YARD SIGNS AND YARD SIGNS ARE SORT OF A, A NEWER TREND, UM, IN SORT OF GRASSROOTS SPEED MANAGEMENT EFFORTS. 
          UM, AGAIN, RESIDENTS CAN TAKE, UM, TAKE ACTION BY PLACING A SIGN IN THEIR YARD TO ENCOURAGE SLOWER SPEEDS. 
          SO IF COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE, UM, STAFF, WELL, WE'VE PROVIDED STAFF SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES SO STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP, UM, APPROPRIATE SIGN DESIGN FOR THIS PURPOSE. 
          SO SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES FOR CONSIDERATION. 
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UM, COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN TESTING TEMPORARY VERTICAL MEASURES AND UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS. 
          SO, UM, A LITTLE HISTORY HERE. 
          SO STARTING BACK IN 1997 AND AGAIN IN 2011, CITY STAFF PERFORMED BEFORE AND AFTER STUDIES ON MONTEREY DRIVE TO UNDERSTAND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF VERTICAL DEVICES. 
          SO THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING YOU THAT ALONG MONTEREY DI DRIVE, THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS WORTH APPROXIMATELY 32.7 MILES PER HOUR AND DROPPED TO 28.6 AFTER SPEED HUMPS WERE INSTALLED IN 97, WHICH EQUATES TO ROUGHLY A 12% DECREASE. 
          SO WITH THE REPAVING PROJECT IN 2011, SPEEDS WERE MEASURED AGAIN BEFORE AND AFTER THE HUMPS WERE INSTALLED. 
          AFTER THEY WERE REINSTALLED THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED ONLY DROPPED TWO TO TWO AND A HALF MILES PER HOUR. 
          SO EQUATING TO A REDUCTION IN SPEEDS LESS THAN 10%. 
          SO THE REALLY, THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT THIS DATA DEMONSTRATES THAT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF SPEED HUMPS IS MOST PRONOUNCED ON SPEEDS ARE ON STREETS WITH HIGHER, UM, 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS. 
          SO AS THOSE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS ARE REDUCED, THE REDUCTION IN SPEED AS A RESULT OF SPEED HOMES IS ALSO THEN REDUCED. 
          SO GIVEN THAT MONTEREY DRIVE EXAM EXAMPLE, SIMILAR RESULTS WOULD, WOULD BE EXPECTED AT A TEST LOCATION. 
          SO IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CONDUCT A SPEED STUDY TO MEASURE THE EFFECT OF VERTICAL DEVICES IMMEDIATELY, CASHIO LANE JUST NORTH OF DUBLIN, JEROME HIGH SCHOOL, UM, HAS A SPEED LIMIT OF 25 MILES AN HOUR, UM, WITH SPEED, SPEED STUDY RESULTS SHOWING, UH, AN 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED OF 35 MILES AN HOUR. 
          UM, SO TEMPORARY SPEED CUSHIONS COULD BE PLACED ON CASHIER LANE AND SPEED SPEED STUDIES CONDUCTED PRIOR TO AND POSTIN INSTALLATION OF THIS, UH, TO MEASURE THE IMPACT. 
          UM, SO IN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS TOPIC, UM, WE ALSO RECOMMEND, RECOMMEND ENCOURAGING ANY HOAS CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS AND RESIDENTS, UM, WHERE VERTICAL DEVICES WOULD BE INSTALLED. 
          UM, SO STAFF HAS PROVIDED FEEDBACK THAT PAST TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS HAVE RESULTED IN, YOU KNOW, VARYING RESIDENT RESPONSES AND WE HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE AS WELL. 
          UM, SO I WOULD SAY IN OUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, TRAFFIC CALMING EFFORTS OFTEN SHIFT TRAFFIC PATTERNS FROM ONE STREET TO ANOTHER STREET. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DRIVERS ADJUST TO CHANGES AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          SO FOR THESE REASONS, WE DO STRONGLY RECOMMEND A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION PLAN. 
          SO THAT INCLUDES THE HOA CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND RESIDENCE IN KIND OF THE, NOT ONLY ON THE SUBJECT STREET, BUT ON THE NEIGHBORING STREETS THAT ARE, THAT ARE AROUND. 
          UM, SO IT BE DEVELOPED AND, AND SHARED WITH THE RESIDENTS FOR THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEIR INPUT PRIOR TO INSTALLATION. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THAT OUTREACH EFFORT CAN TAKE PLACE FROM, FROM ONLINE SURVEYS TO THE YARD SIGNS, UM, TO SOCIAL MEDIA TO DIRECT MAILINGS, YOU NAME IT. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, IT WOULD ALLOW STAFF TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE ENTIRE AREA, UM, PRIOR TO INSTALLATION. 
          UM, SO AN OPTION FOR INCLUDING TEMPORARY VERTICAL MEASURES IN THE SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS TO THE ADD, ADD THE DEVICES TO CATEGORY TWO, UM, WITH THE KEY POINT BEING AFTER AT LEAST ONE OTHER CATEGORY TWO SOLUTION HAS BEEN TESTED AND DEEMED INEFFECTIVE. 
          SO AGAIN, IF ANY OF THESE SOLUTIONS ARE SELECTED, A NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT PROCESS IS RECOMMENDED. 
          OKAY, SO ROUNDING OUT TONIGHT, WE ALSO HEARD FEEDBACK REGARDING, UH, THE TACTICAL URBANISM PILOT PROJECT. 
          AND WHY NOT TEST MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. 
          UH, THIS IS A STA TOPIC THAT WE AS STAFF AND TOOL DESIGN HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY, UM, OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE POTENTIAL PROJECTS COULD BE PLACED. 
          UM, ON THE SCREEN YOU'LL SEE THE THREE LOCATIONS IDENTIFIED, UM, AVERY ROAD AT JACON DRIVE. 
          THIS IS A FREQUENTLY USED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING LOCATION, PARTICULARLY, PARTICULARLY DURING SOCCER SEASON AS IT CONNECTS AVERY PARK TO HAWKS NEST IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE EAST SIDE OF AVERY ROAD. 
          WE ALSO PLACE DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS IN THIS AREA DURING THAT TIME, UM, DURING THE SPRING AND IN THE FALL BECAUSE OF 
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THAT FREQUENT ACTIVITY BETWEEN HAWKS NEST AND, UM, AVERY PARK. 
          TULLY MOORE DRIVE AT CHANGAN STREET IS ANOTHER LOCATION. 
          IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO AVERY ROAD, UM, AS IT CONNECTS. 
          UM, UH, THIS INTERSECTION IS FREQUENTLY USED, UM, D DURING PARK AC VARIOUS PARK ACTIVITIES, UM, AS IT FLANKS THE WEST EDGE OF AVERY PARK AND MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE WEST. 
          AND THEN FINALLY SELLS MILL AT ARLINGTON PARKWAY. 
          THIS INTERSECTION CONNECTS NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE WEST SIDE TO THE EXTENSIVE SHARED JUICE PATH SYSTEM TO THE EAST. 
          IT'S ALSO THE APPROXIMATE MIDPOINT LOCATION OF ARLINGTON PARKWAY BETWEEN BRAN ROAD AND UH, KAUFMAN ROAD. 
          IF THE PILOT WOULD PROVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL, STAFF WOULD THEN WORK TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES INCLUDING MATERIAL AND COLOR PALETTES, DESIGN CRITERIA, PERMISSIBLE LOCATIONS AND TREATMENT OPTIONS THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          UM, THIS CREATES A GRASSROOTS, ANOTHER TYPE OF GRASSROOTS EFFORT, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE PROACTIVE INVOLVED IN THE SOLUTION. 
          UH, CREATING, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD DRIVEN PROJECT WITH RAPID IMPLEMENTATION, UM, BY THE RESIDENTS. 
          RESIDENTS COULD GET CREATIVE AND BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, BRINGING THEIR OWN IDENTITY TO NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND CREATING COMFORTABLE SPACES. 
          AND THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF RESIDENT DRIVEN TACTICAL URBANISM PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 
          ONE OF THE BEST THAT WE'VE SEEN ACTUALLY IS ATLANTA, GEORGIA. 
          THEY HAVE AN INCREDIBLE GUIDEBOOK WITH THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND THE COLORS AND THE DESIGN FEATURES AND WHAT IS ALLOWED AND WHAT THE, UM, CITY ENCOURAGES, AND THEN ALSO ON THE CONTRARY OF WHAT THEY DON'T WANNA SEE, AND THEY GIVE GOOD EXAMPLES OF THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE HEARD, UM, FEEDBACK, UM, FROM COUNCIL ASKING US WHY THE TACTICAL URBANISM PROJECT NEEDED TO RETURN TO CSAC INSTEAD OF DIRECTLY COMING BACK TO COUNCIL. 
          UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS SIMPLY REGARDING RETURNING TO, UM, CSAC WAS TO, UM, CONTINUE CS A'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROGRAM SINCE THEY'VE BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED IN IT OVER THE PAST YEAR. 
          UM, ALSO CSAC CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE AND FEEDBACK, BUT IF COUNCIL PREFERS STAFF CAN RETURN DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL FOR THIS PORTION OF THE PROGRAM, IT'S WHATEVER IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE REQUESTED GENERAL FOLLOW UP INFORMATION. 
          UH, WE WERE ASKED ABOUT GENERAL COST ESTIMATES FOR SOME OF THESE, UM, NEW TOPICS THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, CONSIDERING. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, TEMPORARY SPEED CUSHIONS STAFF, UM, DID DO SO A LOT OF RESEARCH REGARDING THE COST OF THESE, UM, TYPES OF DEVICES. 
          THEY ARE ABOUT $2,500 A PIECE DEPENDING ON WHICH VENDOR YOU CHOOSE, BUT THAT'S ABOUT AN AVERAGE COST THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE INSTALLATION. 
          UM, TAKING CASHIO LANE AS AN EXAMPLE, IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE LENGTH OF THAT STREET, UM, STAFF APPROXIMATES THAT ABOUT EIGHT OF THESE, UM, CUSHION OR UM, TEMPORARY SPEED CUSHIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          UM, AND GIVEN THE VARYING COSTS OF INSTALLATION STAFF ESTIMATES, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $30,000 IF WE HAD A CONTRACTOR COME IN AND INSTALL THESE, UH, TEMPORARY SWEET CUSHIONS FOR US. 
          JEANIE, ARE THOSE REUSABLE? THEY ARE SPIKED INTO THE ROADWAY. 
          WE CAN, YOU CAN PULL THEM OUT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH IT. 
          WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT THEY CAN COME OUT, THEY DO SCAR THE PAVEMENT, UM, AND THAT THE ANCHOR BOLTS ARE DIFFICULT TO REUSE BECAUSE THEY SOMETIMES GET BENT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO PULL 'EM OUT SO YOU HAVE TO BUY NEW ANCHOR BOLTS EVERY TIME YOU WANNA TRY TO PICK 'EM UP AND MOVE THEM. 
          AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE TO THE ROAD. 
          YOU HAVE TO FILL THE HOLES. 
          UM, AND THEN MOVING ON TO PERMANENT SPEED CUSHIONS. 
          UM, EACH DEVICE COSTS BETWEEN 14 TO $16,000. 
          THAT DOES INCLUDE INSTALLATION IN THIS CASE. 
          THAT RANGE IS, UM, MAINLY BASED ON THE TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT ARE USED. 
          UM, IF WE, IF YOU WANT A PAVER TOP OR IF YOU WANT LIKE THE STAMPED COLORED ASPHALT, THOSE KINDS OF, UM, FEATURES WILL INCREASE THE COST. 
          THE ROTATING, UH, DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS, UM, FOR THE, UH, TEMPORARY ONES THAT WE MOVE AROUND TOWN, A PAIR OF THOSE, UM, INCLUDING THE POST COST, ABOUT $15,000. 
          UM, AND THEN FOR A SPEED SAFETY CAMERA, THE TOTAL COST FOR A PAIR OF CAMERAS, POLES, AND FOUNDATIONS IS ABOUT $42,000. 
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SO, PROJECTED IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM IN Q2 OF 2023. 
          SO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, UM, REGULAR SPEED AND NOISE ENFORCEMENT CAMPAIGNS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, EMPHASIZE SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN SCHOOL ZONES AND NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY NOW THAT SCHOOL'S OUT OF SESSION, THEY WERE EMPHASIZING THE SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN SCHOOL ZONES, BUT THE EMPHASIS ON, UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS WILL CONTINUE. 
          UM, OUR POLICE OFFICERS ALSO DISCUSS RECENT TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS AND HIGH CRASH AREAS DAILY WITH OFFICERS SO THAT AS OFFICERS ARE DEPLOYED AND, UM, USED ON THEIR WORKING THE STREETS, UM, THEY KNOW WHERE OUR TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS ARE. 
          THEY KNOW WHERE OUR HIGH CRASH AREAS ARE, AND THEY CAN, UM, DE DEDICATE THEIR TIME AND RESOURCES ACCORDINGLY AS THEIR TIME ALLOWS. 
          AND THEN ALSO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL PERSONALLY FOLLOW UP WITH EACH RESIDENT WHO SUBMITS A CONCERN REGARDING SPEED MANAGEMENT. 
          STARTING IN Q3 OF 2023, STAFF PROPOSES ADOPTION OF A SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM RESOLUTION. 
          UH, WE WILL ALSO BRING BACK, UM, LEGISLATION TO ESTABLISH THE BRIDGE STREET BUSINESS DISTRICT. 
          AGAIN, I KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT AS A FOLLOW UP ITEM TONIGHT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL, UM, THAT STAFF PROPOSES TO COME BACK TO, UH, COUNSEL WITH, WHICH WILL ALLOW STAFF TO, UM, ESTABLISH A 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON ROADS DEFINED WITHIN THAT DISTRICT WITHOUT HAVING TO GET O DOT'S PERMISSION. 
          WE WILL ALSO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS IN CPI TO DEVELOP A MEDIA CAMPAIGN TOOLBOX AND STRATEGY. 
          UM, AND THEN WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING MATERIALS READY, UH, FOR THE START OF SCHOOL IN THE FALL, WE ARE ALSO WORKING TO ADD ENFOR ENFORCEMENT METRICS AND A SPEED MANAGEMENT DASHBOARD TO BE DISPLAYED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          THAT WILL INCLUDE LOCATIONS OF WHERE OUR SPEED SURVEYS ARE LOCATED. 
          THAT PART PORTION OF THE DASHBOARD WILL ALSO INCLUDE A LEGEND THAT WILL INDICATE THE, UM, MILES AN HOUR OVER THE 85TH PERCENTILE, SPEED OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          UM, AND IF THERE ARE EXCESSIVE SPEEDING ISSUES ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD, IT WILL INCLUDE, UM, MONTHLY CITATIONS AND TRAFFIC STOPS. 
          UH, THOSE ARE MORE OF THE GRAPH TYPE, UM, METRICS THAT WILL BE SHOWN. 
          UM, PD WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE OHIO STATE HIGHWAY PATROL AVIATION UNIT, UH, FOR ZERO TOLERANCE FOR EXCESSIVE SPEED STREET RACING RECKLESS OPERATIONS IN O M V I AND IF DIRECTED BY COUNCIL, ENGAGE RESIDENTS REGARDING, UH, SPEED CUSHIONS ON CASHIO LANE IN Q4 OF 2023, BASED ON, AGAIN, BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION, UH, STAFF WILL WORK TO DEVELOP ONE TO THREE TACTICAL URBANISM CONCEPT PLANS AND INSTALL THE PILOT PROJECTS. 
          WE WILL PURCHASE AN INITIAL SET OF SAFETY CAMERAS, SPEED SAFETY CAMERAS, EXCUSE ME, AND BEGIN ISSUING WARNING LETTERS. 
          AND STAFF WILL REQUEST ANNUAL FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT SPEED MAN, UH, SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM INITIATIVES AS PART OF OUR C I P. 
          UM, THIS IS AN ANNUAL, UH, WOULD BE AN ANNUAL PROGRAM IN THE C I P WITH A DEDICATED FUNDING ALLOCATION. 
          SO THAT WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL ROTATING OR PERMANENT DRIVER FEEDBACK, SIGNS, SPEED SAFETY CAMERAS, TACTICAL URBANISM PROJECTS OR OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THAT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FASTER IMPLEMENTATION OF, UM, SPEED MANAGEMENT PROJECTS. 
          AH, AND THEN IN, UM, WHERE IS IT? I BELIEVE THAT'S, I'M, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY BY Q2 OF 2024 FOR THE PROJECTED IMPLEMENTATION, BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF A TACTICAL URBANISM PILOT, CREATE GUIDELINES AND DESIGN CRITERIA FOR A CITYWIDE NEIGHBORHOOD TOOLKIT BASED ON THE APPROVAL OF THE 2024 THROUGH 2028 C I P PURCHASE AND DEPLOY ADDITIONAL SPEED SAFETY CAMERAS AND BASED ON APPROVAL IN THE 2024 OPERATING BUDGET PURCHASE AND DEPLOY ADDITIONAL ROTATING DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS. 
          SO STAFF HAS DEVELOPED A SERIES OF DISCUSSION QUESTIONS AS INCLUDED IN THE MEMO. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, THERE FOUR OF THEM ARE RELATED TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SPEED MANAGEMENT POLICY IN TOOLBOX. 
          AS LISTED ON THE SLIDE HERE, THERE ARE THREE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS THEY RELATE TO THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM FOR COUNCIL'S 
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CONSIDERATION AS ALSO DESCRIBED ON THIS SLIDE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THERE ARE A FEW OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE GUIDANCE ON, UH, REGARDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          SO WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO, UH, TAKE QUESTIONS, UM, OR COMMENT AND FEEDBACK ON THE PROGRAM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, UH, NUMBERS OF QUESTIONS HERE, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THROUGH THEM. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO THROUGH? AND I THINK WE'LL TRY TO TRICK, TAKE THESE AS A GROUP, UM, ONE THROUGH FOUR IN THE BEGINNING AND THEN, UM, SEE IF WE CAN'T GET A SUMMARY OF WHAT COUNCIL FEELS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JEANIE BEFORE WE START? NO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO LET'S LOOK AT QUESTIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR, THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO SPEED MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE THAT IS OPPOSED TO, UM, ANY OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES AND WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION? KATHY? UM, I HAVE ONE COMMENT ON THE VISION STATEMENT, AND THIS IS A PHILOSOPHICAL HOW YOU WRITE VISION STATEMENTS. 
          AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION MM-HMM. 
          , IS IT A WHERE WE ARE OR WHERE WE WISH TO BE STATE? SO WE TALKED ABOUT BEING MOST RESILIENT, MOST CONNECTED, WHATEVER. 
          WE HAVEN'T ACHIEVED THAT TODAY, BUT WE SET THAT AS A VISION STATEMENT FOR OURSELVES. 
          I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THE SOFTENING OF THIS. 
          LIKE, WE'LL TRY TO DO IT AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT WE'LL TRY. 
          I, I THINK IF PHILOSOPHICALLY WE ARE GOING TO STRIVE TO, TO HAVE AN, AN OUTCOME WHERE ALL ARE SUPPORTED IN, IN A VARIETY OF THINGS, WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD TRY, WE SHOULD STRIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OUR RESIDENTS ARE, ARE COMFORTABLE AND NOT SIMPLY SAY IT'S OKAY. 
          AND SO I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE SOFTENING OF IT, AND IT FEELS INCONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE. 
          SO, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF THE REST ON THESE, BUT NOT THAT ONE. 
          AND ON NUMBER FOUR, I WOULD SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON EDUCATION AND AWARENESS THAT WE WOULD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME, WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED? WHAT HAS IT DONE? IS IT WORKING? SO, OKAY. 
          UM, BECAUSE I'M, I'M SOMEWHAT SKEPTICAL ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, DON'T SPEED IMPACT. 
          I DO THINK THE, UM, I'M JUST VERY SKEPTICAL ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT I, I DO THINK THE YARD SIGNS AND SOME OF THOSE COULD BE INTERESTING. 
          SO I, I SUPPORTIVE, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR FEEDBACK ON, ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          SO THOSE WOULD BE MY TWO COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, SO, UH, I DON'T, I, I MEAN, I THINK OVERALL THE VISION STATEMENT IS FINE. 
          I ACTUALLY DON'T MIND LEAVING THE WORD ALL IN THERE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE WORD STRIVE IN THERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
           STRIVE DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY IMPLICATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, UM, BECAUSE I DO THINK HAVING SOME SLIGHTLY STRONGER LANGUAGE ABOUT WHERE WE WANNA BE IS TOTALLY FINE. 
          IT'S A VISION STATEMENT, IT'S NOT A STATEMENT OF FACT, SO TO SPEAK, RIGHT? UM, SO I'D BE OKAY WITH FIRMING THAT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT, KIND OF ALMOST LIKE IT WAS. 
          BUT I DO LIKE THE STRIVE AND I DO LIKE THE STRIKE THROUGH THAT YOU'VE PUT IN THERE. 
          I, I, OR TOOK OUT. 
          I GUESS IT'S FINE. 
          I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE OTHER CHANGES. 
          UM, I THINK THAT EDUCATION AND AWARENESS IS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ON TRAFFIC CONTROL. 
          UM, AND I DO THINK THAT EDUCATION AND AWARENESS IS A REALLY HELPFUL TOOL, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR YOUNGER FOLKS. 
          UM, I HAVE SOME YOUNG DRIVERS IN MY FAMILY, , UH, AND UH, I KNOW WHICH ONES ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE SPEED LIMITS CUZ I HAVE A HANDY LITTLE APP ON MY PHONE THAT TELLS ME, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I, YOU KNOW, TEENAGERS OFTENTIMES THINK THAT THEY ARE INVINCIBLE, UM, AND DON'T ALWAYS CONSIDER OTHERS ON THE ROAD. 
          UH, SO I DO THINK THAT EDUCATION AND AWARENESS IS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT YARD SIGNS ARE INTERESTING, UM, ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME HOAS THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THOSE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK THROUGH. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, OTHERWISE, I THINK IN TERMS OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU GOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I KNOW THIS WAS A LOT TO PUT TOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME IF WE LEAVE THE WORD ALL IN OR NOT. 
          I COULD GO EITHER WAY. 
          SO YOU CAN JUST COUNT THE NUMBERS. 
          USE ME AS A TIEBREAKER IF YOU NEED TO, WHATEVER. 
          UM, YES. 
          ON TWO, YES, ON THREE, FOUR, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO ADD IT TO THE TABLE. 
          I ACTUALLY THINK IT CONFUSES THE TABLE. 
          I WOULDN'T, UM, SO IT'S TABLE TWO ON PAGE YEP. 
          THREE OF OUR MANY. 
          I THINK THAT'S JUST AS CONFUSING. 
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SO I'M FINE WITH HAVING AN EDUCATIONAL AWARENESS OPTION. 
          WHICH OF THE THREE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE OR WE, YOU KNOW, TWO OF THOSE. 
          WE ALREADY USED THE RIDE ALONG THE LOANER, SO WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT. 
          I WOULD LEAVE IT OFF THE TABLE. 
          I JUST THINK IT CONFUSES THINGS. 
          I AGREE WITH AMY'S COMMENT REGARDING EDUCATION. 
          LEAVE IT OFF THE TABLE. 
          UM, QUESTION ONE. 
          I AGREE WITH, UH, CHRISTINA, UM, STRIVE FOR ALL AND THE ANSWER TO TWO AND THREE IS YES. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CHRIS? UM, I, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE YARD SIGNS. 
          I I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE TERRIBLY EFFECTIVE. 
          UM, THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE A CERTAIN SEGMENT THAT WOULD PERHAPS INCREASE THEIR SPEED AS A RESULT OF SEEING THOSE SIGNS. 
          SO I, I DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT THEY WOULD, UM, BE EFFECTIVE. 
          I, I WILL SAY I'M A, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE, WE SET OUT TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND TO ME, AMONG THE LARGEST OF THEM WAS OUR NOISE PROBLEM. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN HERE RELATIVE TO ADDRESSING THE NOISE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YET TO COME. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MET ON, I DON'T KNOW, CHIEF THREE OR FOUR OCCASIONS TO TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THE NOISE LEVELS, PARTICULARLY UP AND DOWN DUBLIN ROAD AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE, UM, SOME OF THOSE HEAVY TRAFFIC CORRIDORS. 
          SO I I, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE SEE SOMETHING ON THOSE IN SHORT ORDER. 
          UM, SUMMER IS CERTAINLY THE MOST POPULAR TIME TO BE OFFENSIVE AND, UM, WE BETTER GET STARTED BEFORE SUMMER'S OVER OR WE, WE WILL HAVE LOST ANOTHER SEASON OF OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, SO, UH, UM, I, I'M OKAY WITH THE STATEMENT. 
          UM, IF, IF THERE, IF IT, IF WE CAN SHARPEN IT UP, THAT'S, THAT IS GOOD AS WELL. 
          UM, I, I THINK THE PROPOSED REVISIONS, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE SPEED MANAGEMENT CATEGORIES. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SPEED'S RELATIVE TO THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS IMPORTANT, UM, BECAUSE 10% OF ONE VERSUS 10% OF 10 IS, IS DIFFERENT. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, SUPPORTIVE OF THE REVISION TO CATEGORY THREE FOR VERTICAL DIVI DEVICES, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE A, A MEASURE OF LAST RESORT. 
          AND SO I APPRECIATE THE EXTENT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BEFORE WE GO WITH THE NUCLEAR OPTION, IF YOU WILL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, INCLUDE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS IS A CATEGORY. 
          NO, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A CATEGORY AND, AND YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT. 
          I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA OF, OF LATE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY ADDRESSING SPEEDS. 
          UM, AND, BUT I'LL JUST REITERATE, I I REALLY WOULD LIKE US TO ADDRESS NOISE IN THE SHORT, IN THE NEAR TERM. 
          AND I, I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, UM, BUT WE, WE ARE PRETTY GOOD AT DOING HARD THINGS, SO I'M, I THINK THAT WE CAN DO IT IF I, YEAH, I, UH, I WAS JUST GONNA OFFER, IF, IF I COULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THE NOISE. 
          UH, SO IN TWO PACKETS AGO WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOISE AND THEN I WANTED TO SHARE WHAT I SH GOT TO SHARE WITH MR. MANIFOLD. 
          ACTUALLY, UM, DURING THE MEETING HERE, JUST FOR COUNCIL AWARENESS, UH, WE, WE DEFINITELY HEAR THOSE COMPLAINTS. 
          WE DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE SPECIFICALLY BRIDGE PARK, OLD DUBLIN, UM, UP, UP AND DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          SO WE ARE QUITE AWARE THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE. 
          AND JUST TO OFFER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO A, TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          UM, SO ON, ON TWO DIFFERENT WEEKENDS DURING MAY, WE HAD OFFICERS SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO ADDRESS INTENTIONAL REVVING OF ENGINES, SPEED OVI, DRUNK DRIVING, UM, PEELING TIRES AND OTHER RECKLESS OPERATION SPECIF, SPECIFICALLY IN THAT BRIDGE PARK AND RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. 
          AND ON ONE NIGHT, ACTUALLY OUR SECOND SHIFT OFFICERS, I WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT HERE, MADE 47 TRAFFIC STOPS IN AN EIGHT HOUR PERIOD. 
          AND A LOT OF THOSE WERE FOR THE VIOLATIONS THAT I, I JUST, I JUST NAMED HERE THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND WE STARTED SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNING TWO OFFICERS TO ADDRESS THOSE. 
          SO THEY WERE TAKEN OUT OF CALLS, IF YOU WILL, UNLESS THERE WAS A LARGE EMERGENCY. 
          THEY WERE TAKEN OUTTA CALLS BY THE SUPERVISOR AND SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN THAT AREA. 
          AND THEY MADE 20 STOPS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, WHICH I THINK IS COMMENDABLE. 
          UM, AND DEFINITELY SHOWS OUR INTENTIONALITY IN TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. 
          WHAT WE STARTED 
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LAST WEEKEND WAS FROM 7:00 PM TO 3:00 AM ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, HAVING AN INITIATIVE WITH TWO OFFICERS, AGAIN SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO THAT, NOT ANSWERING CALLS UNLESS THERE'S SOME GIANT EMERGENCY WITHIN THE CITY. 
          AND THEY CAN ADDRESS EVERYTHING FROM THE TRAFFIC ISS OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE ISSUES WITHIN THE GARAGES. 
          SO VANDALISM, CRIMINAL DAMAGING, OTHER, UH, OTHER THINGS THAT COME ABOUT. 
          AND THEN ALSO NOISE SPEED OPERATING VEHICLE WHILE INTOXICATED AND, AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE WANT THEM TO FOCUS ON. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE TWO PEOPLE ON EACH OF THOSE NIGHTS AND SPECIFICALLY ASSIGN THEM TO THAT ON SATURDAY NIGHT. 
          UH, WE HAD 14 TRAFFIC STOPS IN THAT AREA. 
          AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE FOR VI THE VIOLATIONS THAT I NAMED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INTENTIONALLY TACKLE. 
          SO JUST WANNA OFFER THAT AS JUST, JUST SOME PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO, ESPECIALLY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS FROM ABOUT 7:00 PM TO 3:00 AM SO THAT WE CAN TACKLE THIS. 
          IT'S DEFINITELY ON OUR RADAR, UM, AND, AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT AS BEST WE CAN AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. 
          I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK THE, UM, REPETITIVE NATURE OF THOSE ENFORCEMENT, YOU CAN SEE YOUR NUMBERS ARE DROPPING, RIGHT? YOU'VE STARTED WITH 40 SOME AND MM-HMM. 
          , YOU SAW THE DECREASE. 
          AND, UH, THANKS FOR DOING THAT. 
          I, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU NEED, UM, TO FREE UP THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO DO THAT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, WE ALL HAVE A VERY VESTED INTEREST IN THAT BEING SUCCESSFUL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THE OFFICERS FOR DOING THAT. 
          I, I'VE ACTUALLY NOTICED, UM, I WAS IN BRIDGE PARK MAYBE THREE WEEKS AGO ON A SATURDAY NIGHT AND REALLY DIDN'T HEAR ANY LOUD ENGINES. 
          THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A, A MOTORCYCLE THAT WENT BY, BUT IT WAS NOTICEABLE THE DIFFERENCE ON A, ON A SATURDAY NIGHT. 
          AND I, AS I'VE SAID, IT'S PRETTY ANNOYING WHEN YOU'RE HAVING DINNER OUT ON A PATIO IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR BRIDGE PARK AND YOU CAN'T HEAR THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU BECAUSE OF THESE LOUD ENGINES. 
          UM, I HAD SOUND AS MY NUMBER NINE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, UM, AGAIN, I WANTED TO COMMEND YOU BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED THE DIFFERENCE AND THE NUMBER OF STOPS. 
          UM, AS COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, AROSE, GROOM SAID IT'S, UM, SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO BE PERSISTENT WITH. 
          IT'S SORT OF CREATING A PERCEPTION OF ZERO TOLERANCE. 
          WORD GETS AROUND WITH THESE, I CALL 'EM MOTORHEADS, UM, THAT WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA TOLERATE IT. 
          AND IT IS A BIT OF A GAME OF WHACK-A-MOLE OR THE, THE WET NOODLE ON YOUR PLATE. 
          UM, IT'S BRAND ROAD, IT'S RIVERSIDE, IT'S BRIDGE PARK, IT'S DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT IF YOU HIT DIFFERENT AREAS AT DIFFERENT TIMES, WORD GETS AROUND. 
          SO I GREW UP IN GRANDVILLE AND QUIET LITTLE TOWN, UM, 6 61 RUNS THROUGH DOWNTOWN GRANDVILLE AND I LIVED AT THE CORNER OF, UM, OF, UH, BROADWAY AND PEARL STREET, WHICH IS 6 61. 
          AND THESE MILK TANKER TRUCKS WOULD COME DOWN THE HILL, UH, ON 6 61 INTO DOWNTOWN. 
          AND THIS WAS BACK IN THE EIGHTIES. 
          THEY WOULD USE THEIR ENGINE BRAKE AND IT WAS OBVIOUSLY DISTURBING AS THE GENTLEMAN, UM, THAT LIVES ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE WAS SAYING EARLIER, WELL, WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO GRANDVILLE NOW THERE'S A SIGN THAT SAYS NO ENGINE BRAKE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO THAT. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THE MOTORHEADS, IT'S THE, THE, THE TRUCK DRIVERS AS WELL. 
          I DON'T IF GRANVILLE CAN DO IT. 
          I THINK WE CAN. 
          SO AGAIN, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. 
          I I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT REGARDING, BECAUSE THEN THIS IS, SO, UH, MR. MANIFOLD WAS DISCUSSING THE, THE TRUCKS THAT COME FROM THE QUARRIES AND DELAWARE COME DOWN RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND GO UP HARD ROAD IN A LOOP ALL DAY LONG. 
          MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, IF YOU'RE IN DEL ONCE YOU HIT THE DELAWARE COUNTY LINE, DELAWARE COUNTY DID GET, UM, ENGINE BREAKING SIGNS. 
          THERE ARE FURTHER UP ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN WORK WITH ODOT PERHAPS AND GET SIGNS IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. 
          UM, BUT THERE ARE SIGNS FURTHER NORTH ON RIVERSIDE FOR THOSE TRUCKS. 
          SO WOULD THAT REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE? JENNIFER? I I THINK ENGINE BRAKING IS A CITY CODIFIED. 
          WE'D HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S SOME OF 'EM, IT SAYS PER CITY CODE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'LL HAVE SOME NUMERICAL THING TO IT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          SO, BUT IT, I JUST WANNA BRING THAT UP CUZ IT IS, I MEAN, AND THEY'RE NOT, I MEAN IT IS EVERY DAY, ALL DAY LONG. 
           THANKS. 
          I THINK YOU WAIT ONE THROUGH FOUR, I THINK INCLUDING THE WORD ALL IS KIND OF CONSENSUS HERE AND ON EDUCATIONAL AWARENESS. 
          UM, I'M GETTING THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 
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BE DOING THAT ANYWAY. 
          SO I THINK YOU HAVE DIRECTION THERE. 
          LET'S GO ON TO FIVE, FIVE THROUGH NINE. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY, UM, CONVERSATION OR ANY OF THESE SUGGESTIONS THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS DO NOT AGREE WITH? I WOULD SAY FOR, UM, NUMBER FIVE, THE VERTICAL DEVICES IN CATEGORY TWO, I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT UNLESS WE QUALIFY THAT IT IS AT THE HIGH END. 
          LIKE IT'S THE NINE OR 10 MILES AN OVER. 
          UM, OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE AN OPTION. 
          IF WE'RE AT THE LOW END IN CATEGORY TWO, IT'S, IT'S A 25 MILE AN HOUR ROAD AND GOING FOUR MILES OVER AND SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY TO PUT TEMPORARY VERTICAL DEVICES IN TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT TWO , IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT TO ME. 
          SO I WOULD SAY NO. 
          OR IF WE DO, THEN IT'S GOTTA BE AT THAT. 
          10 COMMENTS ON THAT. 
          ANDY? I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED. 
          I THOUGHT THAT VERTICAL DEVICES OF ANY KIND WERE FOR CATEGORY THREE ONLY. 
          SO I I AGREE WITH AMY. 
          UM, CATEGORY THREE, YES, BUT NOT CATEGORY TWO AND THEN SIX, THE ANSWER IS YES. 
          UM, QUESTION SEVEN, I WOULD REFER IT BACK TO CSAC CHRISTINA. 
          SURE. 
          UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CRAM ON HER ANSWER TO NUMBER FIVE AND I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KEELER ON SIX AND SEVEN. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, KATHY? UM, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF TEMPORARY VERTICALS IN A CATEGORY TWO. 
          I THINK ABOUT NEAR PARKS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THOSE SCHOOL ZONES. 
          I THINK, UM, CHRIS KIND OF MENTIONED TO ME SHE THINKS IT'S, UH, THE ACTUAL PROPERTY DIMENSIONS OF THE SCHOOL. 
          IT IS, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SUFFICIENT, UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BIG PROPERTIES AND SOME THEY'RE NOT. 
          AND, AND I THINK THIS, BY MAKING THIS CHANGE, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. 
          IT SAYS WE COULD DO IT. 
          AND I THINK AROUND PARKS AND I THINK AROUND SCHOOLS, UM, AS THE KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES THERE, I I REALLY THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I, I'M OUT RIDING MY BIKE ALL THE TIME, AS YOU KNOW, AND I SEE THOSE LITTLE KIDS AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF,  AS WELL AS THEM. 
          SO I WOULD BE QUITE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. 
          DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA DO IT, BUT IT GIVES US THE OPTION TO DO IT. 
          AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO YES. 
          UM, ON CAIA ELAINE AND WITH INVOLVEMENT OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS YOU SAID, AND HOW MANY TACTICAL URBAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD TRY SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          I THINK IF WE DO ONE, WE, WE KNOW THAT ONE WORKS, BUT THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATED, UM, AT LEAST THREE OF THE DIFFERENT, AND, AND TO ME, I THINK IT'S, I I THINK IT'S NICE TO KEEP CSAC, BUT LET'S GET SOME STUFF DONE, MAN. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE JUST ADDING MORE STEPS. 
          SO I SAY BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND LET'S JUST ROCK ON. 
          SO THANK YOU JOHN. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, UH, AGAIN SAY THAT, UH, I, I WAS UH, TALKING TO A RESTAURANT MANAGER AT, UH, DOWN ON BRIDGE STREET AND THEY SAID THE NOISE HAS OBVIOUSLY REALLY DECLINED AND THAT'S A TOUGH THING TO GET UNDER CONTROL, SO I GOTTA HAND IT TO YOU GUYS, UH, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS SO FAST. 
          THEY'RE THROUGH THERE AND THEY'RE DOWN THE ROAD AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO STOP 'EM, BUT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WORK THERE EVERY EVENING. 
          AND, UH, SO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T COMMENT ON ONE THROUGH FIVE AND IT'S YES, YES, YES. 
          NO, I THINK THE EDUCATION PART BY YOU GUYS GIVING WARNINGS TO PEOPLE IS PROBABLY VERY, A VERY STRONG EDUCATIONAL TOOL. 
          SO I THINK IT'S GREAT. 
          UH, FIVE IS YES, SIX, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SEVEN. 
          UH, UH, I THINK SHOULD STAY WITH COUNCIL EIGHT. 
          YES. 
          AND NINE, NO. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          AND I THINK YOU GUYS, UH, REALLY TOOK TO HEART THE COMPLAINTS WE HAD. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEPLACE LIKE MARTIN ROAD, I WAS WATCHING THE TRAFFIC AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE SPEED BUMPS ARE HIGH ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE PILLOW BUMPS TO REALLY SLOW 'EM DOWN. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY AS EFFECTIVE AS WE'RE HOPING THEY WERE. 
          SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE THOSE A LITTLE, LITTLE TALLER SPEED BUMPS TO STOP THAT. 
          I, THAT'S AN ENGINEERING QUESTION. 
          SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE GOOD DIRECTION HERE? I THINK WE ON THE CATEGORY, UM, NUMBER FIVE, I'M, I'M SORT OF AT A, NOT EXACTLY SURE THAT WE HAVE A MAJORITY HERE, UH, INCLUDING, UM, IN CATEGORY TWO. 
          I THINK I HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT SAID YES ON CATEGORY THREE. 
          WE WANNA LEAVE IT IN CATEGORY TWO OR THREE. 
          I'M GONNA ADVOCATE FOR TWO SIMPLY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY WE 
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WILL DO IT. 
          BUT AGAIN, I'M WORRIED AROUND THOSE PARKS AND SCHOOLS AND I, I THINK WE NEED AN OPTION THERE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY'S WHY I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT. 
          ANYONE ELSE FOR CATEGORY TWO? SO I, I'M NOT SEEING IT. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE THREE IS WHERE YOU WANT IT. 
          CATEGORY THREE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ARE THERE ANY, UM, ON STAFF REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR UPCOMING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR MORE THAN ONE SET OF SPEED SAFETY CAMERAS, WHICH ARE 42,000 UP PAIR. 
          CAN WE GIVE THEM SOME ADVICE ON THAT? DO YOU WANT THEM TO ASK FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS FOR THAT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS IN THE SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          SO MY SPEED, GOING BACK TO SPEED, THAT WAS MY NUMBER NINE. 
          THE, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATION HERE. 
          YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING, WE NEED TO MEMORIALIZE IT SO IT DOESN'T GET FORGOTTEN. 
          UM, SO WHETHER IT FITS IN THE SPEED PROGRAM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT FITS, BUT IT SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED SOMEWHERE. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO ENFORCE. 
          THE ONLY THE, OH, KATHY, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT IS I KNOW THOSE DRIVER FEEDBACK UNITS WORK. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND HOW MANY DO WE HAVE NOW? CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UM, TWO SETS OF THE ROTATING AND THEN WE HAVE DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOL ZONES. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A SET ON WYANDOT WOODS BOULEVARD AND WE ALSO HAVE A SET OF PERMANENT, THESE ARE PERMANENT ONES ALSO ON TULE ROAD. 
          YEAH, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR MORE OF THE ROTATING ONES CUZ WE KNOW IT WORKS IN TWO, TWO UNITS JUST SEEM SO INSUFFICIENT. 
          SO I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT WE, I I KNOW WE ARE GONNA PUT IT IN THE CONTINUAL C I P BUT DO A LITTLE BIT OF A BIGGER BUMP TO GET US GOING BECAUSE THOSE SEEM TO WORK AND TO YOU, THEY ARE VERY EFFECTIVE. 
          THEY ARE EFFECTIVE AND THEY'RE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. 
          SO I WOULD ADVOCATE AND I'VE HEARD THAT FROM RESIDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT I, THAT HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN TO ME, THEY FEEL IT, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. 
          THAT COMFORT THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS. 
          SO IT'S A, I I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR MORE OF THOSE THIS YEAR TO JUST GET US UP THERE. 
          AND THEN ONGOING I'D SUPPORT ADDITIONAL DRIVER FEEDBACK. 
          THE TEMPORARY ONES AGREED. 
          I SEEING OKAY. 
          SEEING HEAD NODS ON THAT. 
          THE ONLY, UH, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? ANY, ANYBODY ELSE WANNA BRING ANYTHING? UM, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE ONE QUICK SUGGESTION AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE, UM, TACTICAL URBANISM. 
          UM, ONE IS ON THE SIGNAGE, I SAW A SIGNAGE AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THIS CALLED A SLOW SPEED ZONE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE ROUND SIGN, YOU PUT IT ON A, ON ON NEAR A SPEED ZONE AND ALL IT SAYS IS SLOW SPEED ZONE. 
          AND I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE AS YOU'RE COMING INTO, WELL, DUBLIN OR IF YOU'RE GOING NEAR A SCHOOL ZONE, YOU JUST, WE SAY SLOW SPEED ON A SCHOOL ZONE ANYWAY. 
          BUT IN OTHER AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, INSTEAD OF IT SAYING PLEASE SLOW DOWN, IT SIMPLY SAYS SLOW SPEED ZONE. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER, UM, COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE, AND I'VE MADE THIS IN THE PAST AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE EFFECTIVE, AND I'M THINKING OF DUBLIN ROAD, THE STRETCH BETWEEN, UM, THE SOUTH END OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN FRANCE ROAD. 
          IT'S SUCH A WIDE OPEN GRASSY AREA, IT'S A STRAIGHT THOROUGHFARE AND EVERYBODY SPEEDS IF THERE'S THE ABILITY. 
          AND IT WAS MENTIONED AGAIN AS ONE OF THE SPEED MEASURES, UH, TREES ALONG THE SIDES BECAUSE TREES MAKE ONE THINK THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE COMING FROM BEHIND IT AND IT MAKES YOU SLOW DOWN. 
          IT'S A NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO KIND OF SLOW DOWN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A THROW, YOU KNOW, A STRAIGHTAWAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY OTHER SUGGESTIONS. 
          SO I THINK WE ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. 
          LINDSAY, DID WE ASK? WE DID NOT. 
          SO DID WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HEARD IT IF WE HAD IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO YOU THINK, GINA, YOU HAVE ALL YOU NEED? I DO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. 
          THANK WORK. 
          IT'S SO MUCH WORK. 
          WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          [Park Policy Update - Public Services Committee Recommendation ]
AND, UH, WE ARE GOING ON TO PARK P PARK, PARK POLICY UPDATE AND OUR PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND OUR STAFF REPORT IS FROM DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          ALISON LEROY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          LET ME JUST PULL, MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT. 
          ONE PULLED UP HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, IT'S NOT OVER YET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS EVENING, UM, WE ARE HERE. 
          OH, I'VE GOT THE WRONG, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M, I THINK I'VE BEEN SITTING TOO LONG. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT, LET ME JUST TRY AGAIN. 
          IT'S NOT MOVING OVER FOR ME AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
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ARE YOU GUYS SEEING THE DISPLAY OR THE LOOKS LIKE IT'S SHOWING BOTH. 
          I'M LIKE, CAN YOU HELP ME? I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M DOING WRONG HERE. 
          NOW I THINK I'M HITTING, I THINK I'VE STARTED IN ONE SPOT. 
          SORRY. 
          SO, UM, WE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS TO YOU IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. 
          WHAT WE'VE BEEN FINDING IS WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE QUEST OF ALL DIFFERENT KINDS TO USE ALL OF OUR PARKS, ESPECIALLY WITH RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK AND EMILY, THANKS. 
          I DON'T KNOW, I THINK I BLANKED OUT THERE FOR A SECOND. 
          SO, UH, WE UH, MET A COUPLE TIMES NOW WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE AND SO WE'RE BRINGING BACK TO YOU, UM, THREE DIFFERENT POLICIES TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK USE AND FEE POLICY, THE COFFMAN PARK SOUTH FIELD RENTAL FEES AND THE OUTDOOR FEE-BASED ACTIVITY PERMIT POLICY. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED GETTING LAST FALL REALLY, UM, PEOPLE WANTING TO USE RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK AND WE REALLY NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT OUR PARAMETERS WERE FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND SO WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF PARKS POLICIES THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE NOW. 
          AND SO WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THEM ALL IN ONE LARGE POLICY INSTEAD OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, THESE DIFFERENT POLICIES IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          SO WE'RE COMBINING A LOT OF THESE TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ONE BIG POLICY ALONG WITH THESE NEW POLICIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING. 
          UM, SO LIKE I MENTIONED IN DECEMBER, WE UH, FIRST CAME TO COUNCIL AND THEN IN MARCH AND IN MAY WE, UH, WENT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE FIRST WE TALKED ABOUT THE PARK USES POLICIES, UM, AND THEN IN MAY WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEES AND SOME REVISIONS AS WELL AS THE OUTDOOR FEE BASED ACTIVITY PERMIT POLICY. 
          SO OUR EXISTING GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY EVENT POLICY, WHICH, UM, HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE AND THAT'S, THAT INVOLVES THE TIERED EVENTS. 
          IT TALKS ABOUT THE TIERS. 
          WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF RULES, NUMBER OF BATHROOMS, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY APPLY FOR EVENTS. 
          IT'S A, I THINK IT'S ABOUT A 50 PAGE POLICY, UM, AS WELL AS THE SPORTS FIELD USE POLICY THAT KIND OF DICTATES WHICH, UM, SPORTS CAN USE THE DIFFERENT, UM, FACILITIES AT DIFFERENT TIMES. 
          OBVIOUSLY OUR OUTDOOR FACILITY RENTAL GUIDE. 
          AND THEN WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC PARK POLICIES FOR TELLER PARK AND ALSO BRY HIGH SQUARE JUST BECAUSE OF THE, WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND SOME SPECIFIC THINGS RELATIVE TO THOSE PARKS. 
          SO THE POLICIES WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, THE THINGS THAT ARE COVERED ARE THE TIERED EVENTS THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE IN UM, RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK AND KAUFMAN PARK. 
          AND THEN THE OUTDOOR FEE-BASED ACTIVITIES, WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS, UM, WHAT THE DEFINITION OF THOSE ARE, WHAT IT DOES NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, TALK ABOUT AND WE, WE'VE HAD SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS, THE THINGS LIKE THE CHARACTER ARTISTS, INDIVIDUAL VENDORS, THOSE THINGS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE POLICY WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TONIGHT. 
          THOSE CAN BE ALLOWED UNDER THE ORDINANCE, UM, THAT DISCUSSES COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES. 
          IT DOES SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT THEY CAN GET A PERMIT AND WE WILL BE REVIEWING THAT. 
          WE'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THAT AS A CASE BY CASE BASIS. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF THOSE REQUESTS AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK DEFINITELY THIS SUMMER WILL HELP US KIND OF DEFINE WHAT IT IS WE WANT THAT TO BE CUZ WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE POPULAR AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALLOW NOW. 
          WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY FOR THOSE THINGS YET, BUT WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT. 
          SO THE RIVERSIDE CROSSING NUT PARK, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT IS A SPECIAL PARK, WE DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC, UM, GUIDELINES FOR THAT. 
          SO UP HERE SHOWS YOU THE ACTUAL EVENTS THAT WE HAVE CONFIRMED FOR THIS YEAR AND UM, THE GLOBAL WATER DANCES IN DUBLIN WILL BE, UH, THE NEXT ONE COMING UP. 
          WE HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL DAY OF YOGA PRIDE. 
          LAST YEAR OUR VERY FIRST EVENT WAS THE COLUMBUS DUCK RACE OFFICIALLY, UM, WHICH WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT. 
          UM, OBAN IS COMING BACK AND THEN WE HAVE A FEW SMALLER EVENTS. 
          UH, WE DO GET CALLS QUITE OFTEN AND A LOT OF TIMES WITH EVENTS THEY'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT IT IN ADVANCE. 
          SO WE KNOW THAT, THAT THAT NEED IS THERE AND THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE CALLING US. 
          SO THE GENERAL USE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK, UM, THE MAIN ONE REALLY IS, IS THAT NO ACTIVITY WILL IMPEDE THE USE OF THE ACTUAL BRIDGE. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY BLOCKS IT OFF SO SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STUCK ON ONE SIDE OF THE RIVER. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD, UM, MULTIPLE EVENTS COME TO US AND ASK US IF THEY CAN DO AN EVENT ON THE BRIDGE. 
          AND FOR THESE REASONS THAT WE WANTED TO LEAVE, IT STILL IS A, AN AREA THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH. 
          WE HAVE NOT ALLOWED THOSE, UM, THROUGH OUR CODES. 
          ALSO, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE A PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM OR ANY KIND OF AMPLIFICATION. 
          SO WHEN YOU SEE THE PEOPLE OUT, UM, IF SOMEBODY'S PLAYING GUITAR WITHOUT AN AMP, THAT'S ALLOWED, BUT IF THEY HAVE AMPLIFICATION THEY DO HAVE TO COME IN AND GET A PERMIT FROM US. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE REGULATIONS IN THE POLICY THAT SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT FENCING, THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING ALL FENCING IN THE AREA 
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THAT GOLF CARTS AND OTHER VEHICLES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE IN THE GRASS AND THAT THERE'S NOT STAKING, THERE'S A UM, A LOT OF UH, WATER THAT'S OUT IN THAT PARK IN SOME PARIS. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP IT. 
          UM, WELL USED. 
          FINALLY, THE PRIVATE EVENTS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, UH, QUITE A BIT AND THAT WE HAVE SAID THE PRIVATE EVENTS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE THE WEDDINGS, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD JUST BE INVITED AT THIS POINT WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THOSE TO GET, RECEIVE AN EVENT PERMIT AND USE, UM, EXCLUSIVE USE. 
          THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE MAYBE CREATING SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY EVEN FOR WEDDINGS. 
          WE KNOW WEDDINGS HAPPEN THERE CONSTANTLY. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAVE ONE THIS WEEKEND COMING UP AND WHAT WE ALWAYS TELL 'EM IS IT IS NOT FOR YOUR EXCLUSIVE USE. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF, I USE IT THE EXAMPLE, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE BEACH AND PEOPLE HAVE WEDDING ON THE BEACH, AS LONG AS YOU'RE FINE WITH ANYBODY WALKING THROUGH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR WEDDING THERE. 
          AND WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW. 
          WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY TONS AND TONS OF PROPOSALS, UM, PICTURE, PHOTO THINGS LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME AND ALL THOSE ARE ALLOWED, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT GIVING THEM EXCLUSIVE USE OF THAT SPECIFIC AREA. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AT COMMITTEE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FUNDRAISING EVENTS. 
          SAY THE ARTS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO A WINE TASTING EVENT. 
          UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT, WE WOULD CONSIDER ALLOWING THAT BUT NOT IN THE UPPER PORTION AGAIN TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC USE OF THE BATHROOMS, THE PAVILION OBVIOUSLY, AND BEING ABLE TO CROSS. 
          SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THOSE. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD A SPECIFIC REQUEST YET. 
          UM, BUT IF WE DID, WE WOULD ASK THEM TO STAY IN THE LOWER PART OF THE PLAZA. 
          UM, FOR THE SCHEDULING PRIORITY, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AS WELL. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE BIGGER EVENTS, SO REALLY OUR TWO TIER, TIER TWO AND TIER THREE EVENTS, UM, WE REALLY WANTED TO GIVE THEM PRIORITY THAT THEY COULD COME BACK. 
          SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO EVENT PLANNERS TO KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UM, THE DUCK RACE, THAT, THAT, THAT THAT'S THEIR LOCATION. 
          UM, SO WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM PRIORITY SO THAT SOME SMALL EVENT DIDN'T RUSH IN AND AND TAKE THEIR DATE BEFORE THEY JUST HAPPENED TO CALL US. 
          SO WE ARE GIVING THEM PRIORITY UNTIL THE END OF THAT YEAR. 
          SO DUCK RACE HA WOULD HAVE UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR BEFORE WE WOULD LET ANYBODY ELSE TAKE THE DATE. 
          TRUTHFULLY, WE UM, IF WE HAD SOMEBODY CALL IT AND WE KNEW DUCK RACE, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S THE THIRD SATURDAY IN JUNE OR WHATEVER IT IS, IF WE KNEW THAT IT WAS THEIR EVENT, WE, WE HAVE TYPICALLY IN PRACTICE CALLED THEM AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET YOU GUYS IN BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO GET REQUEST FOR THAT DATE. 
          UM, BUT THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO UM, HAVE FIRST WRITER REFUSAL, UM, UNTIL SEP SEPTEMBER OR DECEMBER ONE, BUT THEN THE TIER ONE, TWO AND THREE WILL BE SCHEDULED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. 
          SO AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT, UM, WE HA HAD THE QUESTION IF THE GIRL SCOUTS DID A SMALL EVENT, UM, AND THEY BOOKED JUNE 12TH AND THEN SUDDENLY WE HAD THIS HUGE EVENT THAT WANTED TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HOLD IT FOREVER. 
          YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS THE GIRL SCOUTS JANUARY ONE, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND GO BOOK THAT THAT SPOT. 
          SO THE FEE POLICY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST PUBLIC SERVICE MEETING, UH, WE HAVE KIND OF BROKEN IT UP INTO THE TIERED EVENTS. 
          SO QUICK TIER ONE EVENTS A REALLY SMALL, UM, THE PRIDE FESTIVAL FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WENT TO THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A TIER ONE. 
          THEY HAVE SOME AMPLIFICATION BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A HUGE IMPACT. 
          UM, THE UH, DUCK RACE AGAIN IS THE EXAMPLE IS A TIER TWO. 
          SO THOSE ARE BIGGER EVENTS THAT TAKE, YOU KNOW, A FAIR AMOUNT OF CITY SERVICES. 
          WE HAVE SOME TRASH PICKUP, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          TIER THREE EVENTS, UM, ARE REALLY VERY LARGE EVENTS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THOSE. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY MOVE MAY MOVE LIKE THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HAD FOUR FEST, FOUR FEST WAS A TIER THREE BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY MOVING PARTS NOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF USED TO IT, IT'S KIND OF DROPPED BACK INTO THE TWO TIER TWO CATEGORY. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE A TIER ONE. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, THE PRIDE FESTIVAL A HALF DAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A FOUR HOUR AND THEN A FULL DAY WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY THE ENTIRE DAY. 
          WE WOULD SET THE HOURS. 
          OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE TILL MIDNIGHT TO MIDNIGHT. 
          WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM ON THOSE TIMES, BUT WE WOULD ALSO CH UM, IF THEY NEEDED THE DAY BEFORE TO SET UP OR THE DAY AFTER, WE WOULD CHARGE THEM HALF THE NORMAL RATE FOR THAT. 
          SO NOT THAT THEY WOULD BE USING IT. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A VARIETY DEPENDING ON WHETHER UH, THEY'RE USING A, YOU KNOW, THE FULL DAY OR THE THE UM, JUST THE HALF DAY. 
          THE OTHER THING WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT IS EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC ATTENDANCE NUMBER, WE CAN'T SAY TIER ONE EVENTS ARE UP TO 100 PEOPLE, THAT THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THOSE TIER THREES AND TIER TWOS WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE PARK THAN A JUST A TIER ONE. 
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SO YOU CAN SEE IN THESE TWO MAPS, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THIS , THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE EVENTS. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN SORT THIS LARGER MAP HERE. 
          IF YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE BRIDGE AND THE PAVILIONS UP HERE. 
          UM, SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FENCE OFF THESE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN IN YELLOW. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL IS WE WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY SHOW WHERE FENCING WOULD BE ALLOWED. 
          UH, WE DID ALLOW ACCESS, IF YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS THE STAIRS DOWN TO THE WATER FEATURE BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO THE ACCESS TO THE PATHWAY DOWN THERE. 
          SO WE DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BE, UM, BLOCKED OFF SO THAT PEOPLE COULD STILL GET TO THE PATHWAY. 
          AGAIN, WE DO SHOW THE SOUTH AREA HERE, BUT THAT'S A FAIRLY HILLY AREA SO WE'RE NOT SURE IT'S NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD WANT, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW IT IS POSSIBLE. 
          SO THE REST OF THIS HERE SHOWS THE, THIS LOWER PLAZA HERE AS WELL AS ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE THE TUNNEL COMES OUT. 
          SO IF YOU SEE THIS IS THE TUNNEL HERE, THIS IS KIND OF A LARGER HILL. 
          SO WE WOULD LET AN EVENT, UM, BLOCK OFF THESE AREAS HERE IF APPROVED. 
          UM, THIS OTHER ONE THAT'S JUST CLOSER, IT SHOWS US AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN USING THIS MAP, UH, A LOT WITH PEOPLE TO SHOW THEM THE AREA THAT MUST BE KEPT CLEAR FOR THE UM, FOR THE BRIDGE SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT ANYTHING IN THAT, THAT AREA HERE THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE BRIDGE. 
          SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT UH, WHAT WE WOULD CHARGE, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT IT TOOK US A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT UM, WHAT MADE SENSE FOR THE, WE'VE NEVER CHARGED FOR THE USE OF A PARK. 
          UM, WE CHARGE FOR THE RENTALS, SHELTER RENTALS, BUT WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD A FEE JUST TO USE A PARK. 
          UM, AND MOST COMMUNITIES OBVIOUSLY DO. 
          UM, THE ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT CLOSELY WAS COLUMBUS COMMONS BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE BUT IT'S EXACTLY, IT'S ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE LAWN AREA. 
          IT'S THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE AS THE LAWN AREA DOWN AT COLLI COMMONS. 
          SO WHEN YOU ADD UP THEIR FEES, THEY DO IT. 
          UM, THEY HAVE A STAFF FEE, THEY HAVE A BATHROOM FEE, THEY HAVE A SECURITY FEE, THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE FEE. 
          WE KIND OF ADDED 'EM ALL TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE A, UH, BY HOUR FEE. 
          SO TYPICALLY THEY WOULD BE ABOUT $230 AN HOUR. 
          SO SAY THE TIER TWO EVENT LIKE THE DUCK RACE, UM, WOULD COST 922 OR NINE 900, $920 AT COLUMBUS COMMONS. 
          AND THEN THAT THEY WOULD EVEN ADD ON TOP IF THEY WANTED TO USE WATER OR POWER OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE SAME EVENT AT RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK WOULD ONLY COST $400 AND WE UM, ARE NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL FEES FOR SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS. WE WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL FEES IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC, UM, IF THEY NEED FOR SOME REASON TO HAVE UM, AN EMPLOYEE THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR ONE THING, IF WE DIDN'T WITH THE DUCK RACE LAST YEAR, WE HAD SOMEONE ON STAFF BUT IF NOT THEY NEEDED WATER. 
          SO IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THEY HAD THE WATER, THOSE THINGS WE WOULD CHARGE ADDITIONAL FOR THAT. 
          SO YOU CAN LOOK AT HERE, THIS IS UM, WHAT WE'RE KIND OF ESTIMATING SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST AND HOW MUCH THEY WOULD ACTUALLY PAY. 
          SO WE ARE PROPOSING AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF SEPTEMBER ONE THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AND THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO PAST THAT DATE ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS. 
          AND THEN THE ESTIMATED RENTAL FEES, UH, FOR A CELEBRATION WITH BRIDGE LIGHTING, WHICH WOULD BE SIMILAR, UM, TO THE PAKISTANI INDEPENDENCE DAY WOULD JUST BE A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          THE YOGA THEN A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          THE DUCK RACE AGAIN WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CUZ THEY WERE JUST THERE FOR A FEW HOURS, BUT THEN SOMETHING LIKE JACO, UM, THEY ARE THERE FOR THE WHOLE DAY. 
          UH, THEY ALSO WERE STILL WORKING OUT DETAILS BUT THEY MAY BE CHARGED A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THEY MAY NEED TO SET UP THE DAY BEFORE. 
          UH, SO WE'RE KIND OF GOING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS WOULD SORT OF, UM, WORK OUT FOR SOME OF THESE EVENTS. 
          AND THEN FOR THE PROPOSED COFFMAN PARK, WELL THERE'S NO SPECIFIC RULES THAT WE'VE ADDED THAT ARE DIFFERENT OBVIOUSLY. 
          UM, WE TREAT SOUTH COFFMAN PARK LIKE WE DO OTHER PARTS OF THE PARK, BUT THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD DOWN ON THAT SOUTH AREA, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPORTS ACTIVITIES. 
          WE'VE HAD SMALL FESTIVALS, UH, AWARENESS, WE HAVE LOTS OF AWARENESS WALKS AND RUNS. 
          UH, SO WE WANTED TO CREATE THESE AS DISTINCT PARK AREAS FOR USE. 
          THE OTHER, UM, PART OF THE PARK GETS USED, BUT THEY ARE RENTING THE, THE PAVILIONS OR THE SHELTERS. 
          SO THOSE GET USED QUITE A BIT AND WE HAVE A WAY TO CHARGE FOR THAT USAGE, BUT WE HAVE NO WAY TO CHARGE AT THIS POINT, UM, FOR THAT SOUTH KAUFMAN AREA. 
          SO IN GENERAL, THESE FEES, UM, YOU CAN CHOOSE WHETHER TO RENT. 
          ALL THREE OF THESE AREAS ARE JUST A FEW OF THE AREAS. 
          IT'S ABOUT, UM, ON AVERAGE IT'S ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR RIVERSIDE CROSSING PARK LESS IF YOU'RE ONLY USING CERTAIN ONES. 
          UM, BUT THE SAME KIND OF FEE 
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STRUCTURE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HALF DAY OR A FULL DAY. 
          AND UM, AGAIN, IF THERE WERE OTHER CITY SERVICES THEY NEEDED, WE WOULD CHARGE THAT ON TOP OF THIS. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING TO NOTE TOO IS WE ARE STILL CHARGING OUR EVENT PERMIT FEE ON TOP OF THIS. 
          THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY, UM, THAT FEE IS SET TO, TO UM, RECOUP THE COSTS THAT WE USE TO PER, FOR THE ACTUAL PERMITTING OF THE EVENT MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, THAT THE STAFF TIME IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY, UM, WORK THROUGH THOSE PERMITS. 
          AND THEN, UM, AND I CAN ASK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS UNLESS WE GO ONTO THE PROPOSED OUTDOOR FEE BASED ACTIVITY PERMIT POLICY. 
          UH, WE DID SOME RESEARCH AND THE, THIS IS NOT IN A LOT OF THE, THE COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL OHIO, BUT IT IS IN COLUMBUS AND IT'S IN A LOT OF CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 
          AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, UM, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS FOR SOME OF OUR, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, I, I USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE ALL THE TIME, THE BABY BOOTCAMP, UM, THE, WE'VE EVEN HAD PEOPLE WHO'VE COME TO US AND WANTED TO DO, UM, YOU CAN PAY SOMEBODY TO SET UP A PRIVATE PICNIC FOR YOU. 
          UM, YOU, UH, WE'VE HAD THEATER GROUPS THAT COME AND USE OUR STAGES AND CHARGE ADMISSION TO GO TO THOSE, THOSE PERFORMANCES. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY THAT IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER OUR PARKS ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE, WE WANTED TO CREATE THIS FEE SO THAT WE HAVE INABILITY TO, UM, ACTUALLY BE LET PEOPLE DO IT. 
          CUZ RIGHT NOW OUR ONLY ANSWER IS NO, YOU CANNOT. 
          SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS POLICY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FEE STRUCTURE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM. 
          SO BASICALLY WE TALKED ABOUT HERE THERE'S OUTDOOR CLASSES, CLINICS, WE HAVE RUN CLINICS, WE HAVE, UM, SOCCER CLINICS, WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE PARK AT, AT THIS POINT THAT WE'VE HAD TO, UM, IN THE PAST HAVE TOLD THEM THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO DO SO. 
          SO GENERALLY THESE ARE RECREATIONAL OR NATURE. 
          SO THAT COULD, IT REALLY, THAT INCLUDES ANYTHING FROM PERFORMANCE TO A CAMP AND WHAT IT CANNOT BE HELD FOR THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF ADVERTISING A PRODUCT. 
          UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD YEARS AGO I HAD, UH, A MAN WHO WANTED TO COME AND DO CHIROPRACTOR AND, YOU KNOW, HE, HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT A HEALTH THING, BUT REALLY HE WAS JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP TO GO TO HIS CHIROPRACTIC OFFICE. 
          UM, SO WE WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN DOING THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THE ONE EXCEPTION FROM THIS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT WANTED TO HAVE AN EVENT AND WANTED TO DO A FUNDRAISER AND IT WAS A DONATION BASED, SO THEY WEREN'T SAYING IT'S $50 TO COME AND DO THIS, BUT THEY'RE SAYING, DONATE WHAT YOU WANT TO THIS EVENT, WE WOULD NOT CHARGE THEM THIS FEE. 
          UM, SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT'S CARVED OUT IN THIS POLICY. 
          SO AGAIN, GROUP FITNESS CLASSES, ART CLASSES, YOU KNOW, ALL SORTS OF THINGS. 
          AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS PICTURE IS IS ACTUALLY COLUMBUS COMMONS , UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE CHARGING THOSE FEES. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PERMIT IS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COM DO THOSE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN THE PARK. 
          WE ALSO ARE SAFEGUARDING THE PARK SO THAT UM, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU CAN STILL GO AND RENT YOUR, YOUR, UM, HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY IN THE SHELTER AND IT'S NOT TAKEN UP BY ALL THESE BUSINESSES. 
          AND WE CAN PREVENT SCHEDULING CONTACTS OR CONFLICTS. 
          WE CAN ALSO REALLY SEE WHAT AREAS THEY'RE USING. 
          SO IF ONE SPECIFIC FIELD IS BEING USED TOO MUCH OR A SPECIFIC AREA, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN KIND OF CONTROL SOME OF THAT. 
          AND THEN IT'S ALSO PREVENTING DUPLICATION OF SERVICES. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF, UH, REC CENTER'S OFF ALREADY OFFERING, UM, TENNIS CLASSES, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S COMING IN AND OFFERING TENNIS CLASSES ON OUR TENNIS COURTS AND MAKING MONEY THERE? SO WE ALSO OFFER LIKE MANY THINGS WE SAY THAT CANNOT DISTURB THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS BUSINESSES OR LAND NATURAL LANDSCAPE. 
          AND THAT CAN'T CON CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER EVENT OR ACTIVITY. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE'D BE ABLE TO SAY THEN IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A TIER TWO EVENT IN A PARK, WE COULD DENY, UM, A PERMIT TO DO ONE OF THESE AT THAT SAME TIME. 
          AND IT'S ALSO, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AS IT D DOES NOT DIRECTLY COMPETE WITH SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. 
          UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE, THE KEY ON THIS ONE HERE IS IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ACCESS TO RENTAL FACILITIES OR RESERVING THE PARK SPACE. 
          SO JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS PERMIT, IF YOU WANNA USE ONE OF OUR SHELTERS, YOU STILL HAVE TO RENT THE SHELTER. 
          UM, SO YOU DON'T JUST GET THE PERMIT AND BE ABLE TO USE, UM, AN EXCLUSIVE USE. 
          NOW IF THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT AS EXCLUSIVE USE, IF THEY JUST WANNA GO USE, YOU KNOW, A LAWN SOMEWHERE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. 
          THEY ALSO CANNOT DO COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS SELLING MERCHANDISE SO THEY CAN'T COME OUT AND THEN SELL THEIR T-SHIRTS IN THEIR BOOKS AND THEIR, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          AND THAT WE ALL, THESE HAVE TO BE REGISTERED IN ADVANCE. 
          SO WE DON'T WANT, UM, SOMEBODY STANDING OUT DOING YOGA AND SAYING, HEY, COME JOIN MY YOGA, PAY ME 10 
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BUCKS AND DO YOGA RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT BEFORE SO THEY'RE NOT BOTHERING THE PEOPLE USING THE PARK AT THAT TIME. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, THE, THE RATES ARE SHOWN HERE, UH, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING IT AS A SINGLE DAY, THEY'RE DOING IT KIND OF AS A CLASS SET UP. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE A FEW OF THOSE PEOPLE, UM, THAT WOULD DO IT, YOU KNOW, ON A ONE TIME BASIS AND WE WANTED TO ALLOW THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE, UM, ACTUALLY ASSUMING THAT MOST OF 'EM WOULD PROBABLY FALL UNDER THE THREE MONTH. 
          AND THE EXAMPLE WE USED HERE, UM, IF YOU SEE THIS NEXT SLIDE, THIS SHOWS WHAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS CHARGING. 
          THEY ACTUALLY, UM, ORIGINALLY THEIR FEES WERE WERE LESS LAST YEAR AND THEY BASICALLY GOT RID OF THEIR MONTHLY AND THEY JUST DID THE ANNUAL. 
          AND SO NOW THEIR SINGLE USE IS REALLY HIGH. 
          I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DISCOURAGE THE SINGLE USE. 
          UM, BUT WE STILL WANNA, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR NONPROFITS TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT, THAT ONE TIME USE FOR NON EXORBITANT COST THERE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE PRETTY IN LINE ON THE, AN OUR ANNUAL IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE THREE MONTH AND WE PRETTY MUCH, THAT'S KIND OF THE, WHEN PEOPLE USE IT OVER THE THREE MONTH PERIOD, IT'S THE SUMMER TIMES, THE SPECIFIC TIMES THAT THEY'RE USING IT. 
          AND WITH THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE POLICIES OR, UH, THE FEES THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT. 
          THANKS ALLISON. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALLISON CONCERNING THIS? NONE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          ANDY. 
          OH, I, I SEE ANDY PUT HIS FINGER UP. 
          , THIS ISN'T REALLY A QUESTION, IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT. 
          UM, I GUESS WE'RE JUMPING RIGHT IN. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT CHARGING ANYTHING NOW. 
          NO. 
          SO THE, THE, THE RATES SEEM LOW TO ME, BUT WE'RE NOT CHARGING ANYTHING NOW, SO YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE. 
          I THINK HAVING IT, MAYBE CALLING IT A PILOT, I LIKE I I, THAT APPEALS TO ME BECAUSE UM, WE CAN CHANGE IT, WE CAN CHANGE THE RATES ANYWAY, BUT UM, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WANNA ENCOURAGE THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE IT AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HUGE MONEY MAKER ANYWAY. 
          UM, THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF INTANGIBLE BENEFITS TO THESE KINDS OF THINGS COMING TO TOWN. 
          AND UM, YOU KNOW, ONE COULD ARGUE, WELL THESE ARE PUBLIC PARKS THAT OUR RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY. 
          WELL THEY CAN STILL ENJOY THOSE. 
          I SUSPECT THAT A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE PAYING TO HAVE EVENTS AREN'T NECESSARILY RESIDENTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT, UM, I SUSPECT THAT'D BE THE CASE. 
          SO I I I SEE IT AS UM, THIS ACTIVITY AS A KIND OF AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR AND I THINK THAT THE, THE FEES ARE VERY REASONABLE AS A STARTING POINT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I, I AGREE WITH ANDY. 
          I, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT'S A PILOT BECAUSE MY BIGGEST WORRY, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL IN SEEING THESE ACTIVITIES AND PEOPLE WANTING TO BE AT THE PARK AND IT'S GENERATED A LOT OF INTEREST AND A LOT OF GOOD, UM, REPUTATION FOR THE PARK USE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S, ESPECIALLY ON SOME OF THESE UNIQUE ACTIVITIES LIKE THE OBAN FESTIVAL AND THE, THE MANY OF THE DIVERSE FESTIVALS WE'VE HAD, IT'S CREATED SUCH GOODWILL THAT, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD TEST IT OUT BECAUSE IF IT DISCOURAGES PEOPLE OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONIES TO MAKE THIS WORK AND THEN THEY STOP HAPPENING, I THINK WE HURT OURSELVES. 
          SO I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE TEST THE WATERS AND SEE WHAT KIND OF REACTION YOU GET AND THEN COME BACK AND LET US KNOW HOW THAT IS ON PERSONALLY. 
          YEAH, AND WE DID WRITE IN THE POLICY THAT WE WOULD REVIEW IT ANNUALLY CUZ IT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED AT, AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL ABOUT AS WELL. 
          UM, AND IT WILL BE IN THE FEE ORDINANCE THAT GOES PLACE THAT GOES INTO IN THE FALL. 
          SO WE WOULD REVIEW IT AGAIN AT THE FEE ORDINANCE IN FALL OF, OF NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT WE COULD ALWAYS BRING IT BACK EARLIER IF WE'RE FINDING, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A CYCLE SO WE'LL START HEARING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WE'LL START HEARING ABOUT IT IN JANUARY BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY START COMING TO US AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS I MIGHT MAKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF THINGS, BECAUSE WE WANNA ACTIVATE THE PARKS AND WE'RE SAYING THIS, AS JOHN SAID, LIKE TO SEE FOUR EVENTS A MONTH MAYBE FOR THOSE WHO COME TO YOU ASKING FOR A PERMIT AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU GET HALF THE PRICE FIRST TIME AND THEN IF YOU RENEW YOU PAY THE FULL PRICE. 
          BUT IT MIGHT BE AN INCENTIVE TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT HAVING AN, AN ACTIVITY TO SEE IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL AND IF THEY ARE THEN THEY KNOW MAYBE WHAT THEIR FUNDS MIGHT BE FOR THE NEXT TIME. 
          IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. 
          BUT, UM, IT CERTAINLY MIGHT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HAVE 
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MORE ACTIVITIES. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY FEELS ABOUT THAT, BUT, UH, I'LL CHIME IN. 
          I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE WHERE BOTH YOU AND ANDY ARE COMING FROM RELATIVE TO THE PILOT. 
          THAT BEING SAID, IT'S A POLICY. 
          WE HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO REVOKE IT, CHANGE IT, DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE PART OF OUR ANNUAL FEE STRUCTURE ANYWAY. 
          SO I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, JUST DO THE DARN THING. 
          UM, AND IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE IT. 
          UM, I I SORT OF LIKE THE IDEA, I, AND I THINK MAYBE CHRIS HAD MENTIONED IT BEFORE AS WELL, UM, OF, OF SORT OF THE FIRST TIME USER HAVING SOME TYPE OF DISCOUNT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD DO FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE, LIKE IF THAT'S JUST TOO HARD. 
          I THINK THE ONLY KEY WOULD BE, UM, WE HAVE A LOT THAT ARE MOVING AROUND. 
          SO WOULD IT BE THEIR FIRST TIME EVER OR WOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, THEIR FIRST TIME IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT AT THAT. 
          IS IT, IF IT'S A COMPLETELY BRAND NEW EVENT, WE'VE NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE SHOWS UP. 
          YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE KIND OF WHAT WE WOULD BE THE HARDEST PART FOR US TO LOOK AT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I MEAN, AGAIN, I, I'D BE FINE IMPLEMENTING IT AS YOU HAVE IT HERE. 
          UM, AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND BRING THAT BACK. 
          CUZ AGAIN, WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THIS. 
          UM, IF, IF WE FIND THAT IT'S NOT WORKING FOR US OR IF WE FIND THAT THERE'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO SORT OF DO THAT FIRST TIME USER DISCOUNT OR WHAT HAVE YOU MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, BUT OTHERWISE I WOULD BE IN SUPPORTIVE OF ACCEPTING THIS AS IT IS. 
          I HAVE ONE COMMENT. 
          SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE WAS ACTIVATING THAT ROADWAY AT THINGS LIKE FOOD TRUCKS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, SMALL ART SHOWS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL TO SPEAK TO THAT OR NO, NOT THE ARTS FESTIVALS WOULD ACTUALLY FALL UNDER, UM, AN EVENT POLICY. 
          I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THE ARTISTS, BUT THE FESTIVALS ARTISTS, YES, WE ARE, WE ARE GONNA BE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT IT. 
          WE CAN HANDLE THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS OVER THE SUMMER. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S THE KEY IS WE WANNA SEE WHAT KIND OF THINGS COME TO US AND THEN, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE AND FOOD TRUCKS. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK, UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I THINK WE, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, WE ARE READY TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED PARK USE POLICIES IS RECOMMENDED BY THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JENNY, PLEASE CALL ROLL MAYOR FOX. 
          YES. 
          MS. KRAM? YES. 
          MS. AUDO? YES. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          VICE MAYOR DAROSA? YES. 
          MS. SAM ROSE GROOMS? YES. 
          MR. KEELER? YES. 
          [STAFF COMMENTS ]
ALL RIGHT. 
          AND WE HAVE A STAFF COMMENT, A REPORT FROM CITY MANAGER MEGAN O' CALLAHAN. 
          GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNSEL. 
          I DO HAVE THREE ITEMS WHICH ARE TIMELY. 
          UM, YOU LIKELY NOTICED THAT TONIGHT MARKS OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING THAT'S BEING LIVE STREAMED AND DIRECTED BY SWAGGO. 
          OUR NEW MEETING BROADCAST PROVIDER SWAGGART, WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE OF THE COMPANY'S EXPERTISE IN PRODUCING PUBLIC MEETING LIVE STREAMS AND VIDEOS. 
          DIRECTORS ARE BASED IN DALLAS, TEXAS AND THEY HELP ENSURE THAT ALL THE CAMERA ANGLES AND VIDEO TRANSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE MEETING ARE SEAMLESS AND THE SPEAKERS ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE SCREEN. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE MEETINGS ARE AVAILABLE ON DEMAND AFTER THEIR CONCLUSION AND INCLUDE DYNAMIC AGENDAS AND IN INDEXING, WHICH ALLOWS VIEWERS TO CLICK ON AN AGENDA ITEM, UM, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN. 
          AND SKIP TO THAT PART OF THE MEETING, THE JUNE 8TH MEETING OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LAST WEEK, WHICH ACTUALLY THE FIRST MEETING THAT WAS PUBLICLY, UM, STREAMED USING SWAGGART. 
          AND THE NEW PROCESS HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR. 
          BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE AS WE COMPLETE THE TRANSITION TO THE NEW SYSTEM, WE WILL BE MAKING CONTINUAL IMPROVEMENTS, UM, TO ADDRESS ANY FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC. 
          SO THE FEATURES OF THE SYSTEM DO PROVIDE INCREASED ACCESSIBILITY TO INFORMATION AND INCREASED TRANSPARENCY, WHICH WE'RE VERY PROUD OF. 
          AND STAFF WOULD LIKE TO THANK SWAGGART FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP IN THIS ENDEAVOR. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN GETTING US TO THIS POINT THIS EVENING. 
          THIS PAST SATURDAY, UH, OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT STAFF HOSTED A BOOTH AT THE DUBLIN MARKET. 
          UM, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AT VARIOUS INTERVALS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AT THAT EVENT TO RAISE AWARENESS AND OUTREACH FROM VARIOUS WORK UNITS. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING TURNS THIS SUMMER, UM, ROTATING BETWEEN DIFFERENT TOPICS TO INCREASE ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND TOPICS. 
          SO WE HAVE ENVISIONED DUBLIN SLATED FOR TWO DIFFERENT SATURDAYS. 
          WE HAVE THE DUBLIN POLICE, WE HAVE FOREVER DUBLIN AGING AND PLACE INITIATIVE, DUBLIN IRISH FESTIVAL, SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND NATURE EDUCATION. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS WILL BE HOSTED AT A BOOTH. 
          UM, THIS SUMMER DUBLIN MARKET, THE FOOT TRAFFIC IS BETWEEN 3000 AND 5,000 EACH SATURDAY. 
          SO WE VIEW THAT AS A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO BRING FORWARD KEY INITIATIVES OUT FRONT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THE ATTENDEES AT THAT EVENT. 
          UM, IT'S 
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A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS SO WE'LL, WE WILL ASSESS THE TRACTION OF THAT TYPE OF OUTREACH AND IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, WE WILL MOST LIKELY RESERVE A BOOTH FOR, UM, ALL DEPARTMENTS NEXT YEAR AS WELL. 
          AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          THAT INITIATIVE IS PROGRESSING WELL. 
          THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDES REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, EACH OF THE FOUR MAJOR HEALTH SYSTEMS, MENTAL HEALTH HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, DUBLIN CITY SCHOOLS, AND A WIDE VARIETY OF SOCIAL SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE DUBLIN RESIDENTS IS HELPING TO GUIDE THIS EFFORT. 
          AND THEY'VE MET MULTIPLE TIMES SO FAR. 
          WE'VE COMPLETED FOUR FOCUS GROUPS WITH RESIDENTS AND TWO MORE FOCUS GROUPS WILL SOON BE SCHEDULED. 
          THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S COMPLETED INTERVIEWS WITH 21 COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL. 
          SO THIS WEEK WE WILL BE LAUNCHING A SURVEY TO A RANDOM SELECTION OF DUBLIN HOUSEHOLDS. 
          AND THE SURVEY IS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE OVERALL HEALTH OF CITY RESIDENTS. 
          RESULTS OF THE SURVEY WILL BE USED TO HELP US BETTER SERVE RESIDENTS AND KEEP DUBLIN HEALTHY. 
          SURVEY WILL ALSO ASSIST IN DESIGN OF FUTURE PROGRAMMING EDUCATION EFFORTS AND WILL PROVIDE A BENCHMARK TO DETERMINE THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM. 
          SURVEY IS GOING TO BE OPEN THROUGH EARLY AUGUST, AND AT THE TIME OUR CONSULTANTS FROM OLOGY WILL BEGIN TO SYNTHESIZE THE QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE DATA INTO A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. 
          AND THEN IN LATE AUGUST, EARLY SEPTEMBER, WE WILL PIVOT FROM THE RESEARCH PHASE TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PHASE OF THAT INITIATIVE. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MEGAN. 
          UM, COUNCIL 
          [Community Development Committee Report ]
COMMITTEE REPORTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. 
          MR. REINER? YES. 
          ON MAY 23RD, THE CDC UH, RECEIVED AN UPDATE REGARDING PHASE TWO OF THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER OF FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          DUNCAN WEBB, PRESIDENT OF WEBB MANAGEMENT PROVIDED A REPORT REGARDING THE RESULTS OF SCHEDULING A CHARETTE, WHICH WAS HELD ON APRIL WITH REP REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL ARTS COMMUNITY, UH, A SPACE, A UH, SPACE PROGRAM FOR BOTH A 500 SEAT AND 700 SEAT PERFORMING ARTS CENTER CONCEPT. 
          A PRO, UH, FORM OF BUDGET FOR EACH CONCEPT AND A SITE TYPE ANALYSIS FOR PROPOSED LOCATIONS FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WAS INCLUDED. 
          MR. WEBB IS COMPLETING THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND HE WILL RETURN TO A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING TO PRESENT THE COMPLETED STUDY AND DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IN DUBLIN. 
          SO WE'LL HEAR FROM HIM AND, UH, SEE WHAT HE'S GOT TO SAY ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT TOPICS RELATED TO THAT. 
          NOW I 
          [Veterans Committee Report]
THINK YOU HAVE A VETERANS COMMITTEE REPORT AS WELL. 
          UH, VETERANS UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET ON THE 18TH. 
          AT THAT MEETING, THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO MAKE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, WHICH INCLUDE ESTABLISH A VETERANS APPRECIATION CARD AND CREATING A SENIOR MILITARY VETERANS RATE AT THE DUBLIN COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER. 
          A PRIMARY PURPOSE FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO ESTABLISH A COMP COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF VETERANS IN THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL. 
          ESTABLISH THE VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO MAXIMIZE THE INPUT AND PARTICIPATION OF VETERANS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO BY HAVING A LIST OF COMMITTEE, SO HAVING A LIST OF COMMITTEE WILL BE ABLE TO ADVANCE THAT PURPOSE. 
          THE APPRECIATION CARD AIMS TO GIVE VETERANS A SIGN UP FOR A CARD THAT QUALIFIES THEM FOR EXCLUSIVE BENEFITS AND EXCHANGE FOR THEM PROVIDING THE CITY WITH THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION. 
          THE CARD IS IN ADDITION TO THE CURRENT BENEFITS VETERANS, SUCH AS A DISCOUNT AT THE REC CENTER AND REDUCED DUBLIN IRISH FESTIVAL TICKETS. 
          THE NEW BENEFITS WOULD INCLUDE A 25% OFF ON ABBEY THEATER. 
          TICKETS OF FIVE FIVE DAILY PASSES TO THE CRC OR POLL FREE POLL ENTRY ON THE 4TH OF JULY AND AN ENTRANCE INTO A LOTTERY FOR TWO TICKETS TO THE CITY'S HOSPITALITY VILLA AT THE 22 20 24 MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT. 
          THE COMMITTEE ALSO RECOMMENDED COUNCIL CONSIDER CREATING A SENIOR MILITARY VETERANS RATE AT THE D CRC. 
          CURRENTLY, THE REC CENTER HAS A MILITARY VETERAN'S RATE AND A SENIORS RATE. 
          THE SENIORS RATE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE VETERANS RATE, WHICH PROHIBITS SENIORS WHO ARE VETERANS TO BE IDENTIFIED AS A VETERAN. 
          AND CREATING A NEW SENIOR VETERANS RATE THAT IS $5 CHEAPER THAN THE SENIOR RA RATE. 
          VETERANS WOULD NOT ONLY RECEIVE A BENEFIT AS A THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE COUNTRY, BUT WOULD HELP CREATE THE LIST THAT WE'RE SEEKING. 
          UH, CHAIR, RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL JEFF NOBLE WILL BE OUR NEXT, WILL BE AT OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 26TH TO PROPOSE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND THEN ONE FINAL THOUGHT, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR THE, UH, MEMORIAL UH, PROGRAM CEREMONY. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY FANTASTIC. 
          SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT, UM, MICHELLE PERKINS, WHO WAS ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS, SPOKE ABOUT HER, UM, BROTHER 
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WHO PASSED AWAY AND SHE ASKED THAT, UM, WE NOT, UH, ASK HOW SOMEONE DIED, BUT HOW THEY LIVED AND WHAT THEIR GOALS WERE. 
          AND UM, WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS YOUNG LADY, I NOTICED SHE WAS LINGERING AND LINGERING AND YOU GUYS ARE TAKING DOWN THE TENTS AND FOLDING UP THE TABLES AND LEAVING THE SITE. 
          AND YET THIS SPEAKER, THIS YOUNG LADY, WAS STILL LINGERING AROUND. 
          SO FINALLY SHE CAME UP AND SAID SHE JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT DUBLIN IS JUST THE MOST AMAZING PLACE IN THE WORLD. 
          THIS WHOLE MEMORIAL PROGRAM WAS SO FANTASTIC. 
          SHE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT FROM OUR AREA AND JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR DOING WHAT SHE DID FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          AND THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL WAS THERE AND THE STAFF DID A GREAT JOB AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL PICNIC. 
          AND THEN SHE STATED PROBABLY WHY SHE STAYED THERE AND THAT WAS THAT HER BROTHER IS IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW. 
          SO SHE FELT THAT COMMUNION WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO IT WAS REALLY A GREAT THING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU JOHN. 
          COUNCIL 
          [COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE ]
ROUNDTABLE. 
          AMY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? UH, SURE. 
          THE ONLY THING I HAD WAS SINCE WE MET LAST, I HAD GONE TO A WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP MEETING AND AT THAT MEETING THEY DID A SUMMARY OF THEIR CURRENT MASTER PLAN AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN UP TO, THEY'RE LOOKING INTO A POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL STATION AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          SO THEIR COVERAGE GOAL, THEY LIKE TO HAVE A EIGHT MINUTE RESPONSE TIME, 90% OF THE TIME, EIGHT MINUTES OR LESS. 
          AND THEY HAVE TWO AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NOT MEETING THAT GOAL. 
          ONE IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OUR CITY AND ONE'S AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF OUR CITY. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS, UH, RINGS AND CROS, GRAY AREA AND THE MAINLY TRIC AREA ARE THE TWO THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          POTENTIAL NEW STATION. 
          THEY'RE STILL A FEW YEARS OUT, BUT JUST SO COUNCIL'S AWARE AND STAFF AND RESIDENTS LIKE THAT IS IN THE WORKS. 
          AND AS WE PLAN THINGS AND MAKE DECISIONS, WE SHOULD REMEMBER OUR PARTNERS AT WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP AND RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR AVERAGE TIME IS OVER 10 MINUTES TO THOSE AREAS. 
          SO 90% OF THE TIME, YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR HELPING US PULL OFF ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT. 
          I KNOW IT'S NO SMALL FEAT FROM THE, UH, GROUNDS FOLKS TO THE STREET FOLKS THAT GET THE CITY LOOKING PRETTY BEFOREHAND AND EVEN THE FOLKS THAT DRIVE US AROUND IN THE SHUTTLE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          JUST WANTED TO, UH, REMIND YOU THAT, UM, UM, WE ONLY HAD ONE DISSENTING VOTE ON THE, UH, VAPING LEGISLATION. 
          SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY FAIR TO MAYBE GET THAT PASSED NOW SO THAT THEY HAVE TIME TO LIQUIDATE THEIR INVENTORY BEFORE MAYBE IT'S FINAL FINALIZED, MAYBE IN JANUARY, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS FINALIZING THERE. 
          SO, AND THEN A LITTLE BIRD TOLD ME THAT THE MEN'S RESTROOM, THE BOYS RESTROOM AT ONE OF THE SCHOOLS WAS REALLY PLUGGED UP WITH VAPING CARTRIDGES. 
          SO WHEN THE UH, GUY CAME TO CLEAN IT UP, THAT'S WHAT HE FOUND. 
          SO I WOULD THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE US MOVE ON WITH THAT VAPING LEGISLATION AND GET THAT PASSED. 
          CUZ WE DO CARE ABOUT THE HEALTH OF OUR YOUTH AND UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S I THINK'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          SO DON'T WE MAKE A STAND ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD TONIGHT. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THANKING OUR STAFF FOR WHAT THEY DID TO GET THE CITY READY FOR THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT, I I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE TOURNAMENT STAFF AS WELL FOR GIVING US A PLATFORM TO HIGHLIGHT OUR CITY IN THE WAY THAT THEY DID THROUGH THE FOUR MILER AND, AND ALL OF THE EVENTS. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF AND, AND THEIR HARD WORK, BUT ALSO THANK YOU TO THE TOURNAMENT FOLKS FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A GLOBAL PLATFORM. 
          UM, NOTHING FURTHER. 
          I WILL ADD MY THANK YOU TO AND WHOEVER PLANNED THE WEATHER, THAT WAS PRETTY EXCELLENT TOO, SO THANK YOU. 
          THEY'RE, THEY GET THE SAME JOB NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? THEY GET THE SAME JOB NEXT YEAR. 
          THERE YOU GO, CHRIS. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          YOU'RE HIRED AGAIN. 
          UM, AND THEN AGAIN FOR SWAGGART. 
          I KNOW IT WAS A BIG LIFT. 
          I'M JUST WATCHING IT HERE IN THE SCREEN AND IT JUST LOOKS AMAZING. 
          SO JENNY TO YOU AND, AND YOUR TEAM, I I, I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THE IT AND FACILITIES AND EVERYBODY THAT THAT WORKED ON IT, IT, UM, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO ALL OF US TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND, AND ACCESS AND I THINK THIS IS A REAL STEP FORWARD. 
          SO SINCERELY, UH, THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANNA REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT JUNE 21ST IS IN, IS ENVISIONED DUBLIN, THE COMMUNITY PLAN AT ITS 68 0 5 BOBCAT WAY. 
          EVERYBODY COME OUT AND GIVE US YOUR OPINION ON WHAT DUBLIN'S TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT, IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE. 
          IF YOU CAN'T COME OUT, GO TO ENVISION DUBLIN.ORG AND CLICK ON THE LITTLE, UM, QR CODE AND DO THE SURVEY ONLINE. 
          PASS IT AROUND TO EVERYBODY. 
          UM, THANK YOU STAFF FOR MAKING US LOOK SO GOOD ON THE GLOBAL 
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STAGE. 
          YOU JUST DID SUCH A GREAT JOB. 
          THE MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS AND, AND, UM, ALL THE, ALL THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO IT AND ALL THE TIME YOU SPENT OUT AT THE VILLA AND ENTERTAINING EVERYONE, IT'S, IT'S A BIG LIFT AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT THE MIRACLE LEAGUE GAMES LAST SATURDAY, I, I THINK MAYBE OTHERS WERE THERE, GOT TO THROW OUT FIRST PITCH. 
          THERE'S NOTHING MORE FUN THAN WATCHING THOSE KIDS HAVE A GOOD TIME OUT THERE. 
          WE HAVE TO THANK JOE FOX AND HIS SON GREG FOX FOR BEING THE BEST PLAY BY PLAY. 
          PEOPLE OUT THERE, THE KIDS HAD GREAT NAMES, THEY HAD A BALL, THEY WERE SMILING, THEY WERE LAUGHING, THEY WERE JUST HAVING A GREAT TIME. 
          AND I JUST WANNA WISH A COUPLE OF OUR PEER COUNCILWOMEN A HAPPY BIRTHDAY VICE MAYOR DOZA HAD A BIRTHDAY AND COUNCIL HAPPY AGAIN, 40 AGAIN, AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CHRISTINA AUDO IS GOING TO CELEBRATE HER BIRTHDAY, SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THEM. 
          AND UM, IT IS ONE OF OUR LATEST NIGHTS, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO GO HOME. 
          SO THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
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